[00:03] <multipass|2> idk, maybe throw up a screenshot
[00:13] <Guest84702> hello
[00:18] <Marzata> can you recommend some thinkpad for xubuntu?
[00:19] <multipass|2> just make sure u google the model and ubuntu to check it over
[00:32] <Marzata> T500?
[00:57] <mysteriousdarren> T500? look in the ubuntuforums.org list for compatible laptops
[01:19]  * Marzata is listening to http://youtu.be/Oev9akI1B7g 
[02:39] <douglas__> The continuation of trying to get a workable usb stick with x11.10
[02:39] <douglas__> Anyone want to step up and tell how to?
[02:45] <|Slacker|> douglas__, what do  you wanna do?
[02:46] <Unit193> If your'e on Windows, I'd recommend either unetbootin or LinuxLiveUSB
[03:23] <douglas__> looking for help in making a usb stick with bootable x11.10
[03:25] <douglas__> #xubuntu
[03:26] <douglas__> join xubuntu
[03:27] <douglas__> looking for help in making a bootable usb stick with xubuntu
[03:35] <bert4389> douglas__ : do you want to install xubuntu from USB or install/boot xubuntu from the usb drive?
[03:38] <douglas__> I want to take a fresh usb stick and put x11.10 on it
[03:39] <douglas__> and then be able to boot from and run from the usb
[03:39] <bert4389> are you using Windows or Linux to put Xubuntu onto the usb drive?
[03:39] <nanotube> douglas__: have you verified the checksum of your iso? have you tried another usb stick?
[03:40] <douglas__> yes, I've verified.  I can get to the xubuntu boot up screen ( a blue, kind of sun burst pattern) then get an error message
[03:41] <bert4389> douglas__: have you tried unetbootin?
[03:41] <nanotube> douglas__: well, maybe it's the usb stick. do you happen to have another one?
[03:41] <bert4389> it looks pretty straightforward
[03:41] <douglas__> the message talks about not being able to mount something
[03:42] <douglas__> I've repeated the format, iso process maybe 4 times now and always get as far as the blue xubuntu screen and always the same message
[03:43] <douglas__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/789878/
[03:45] <nanotube> well, try a different usb stick, maybe yours has some bad bits or something
[04:34] <nanotube> are display power management issues known? i set my power settings to put display to sleep after some minutes... and it did that for a while, then stopped.
[04:37] <holstein> nanotube: i noticed that from gnome2's settings, you have to do it in 2 places... you set that for plugged, and unplugged.. i though i had lost settings but actually was just in a different state
[04:39] <nanotube> holstein: yes i set that for both ac and battery (slightly shorter for battery)
[04:39] <holstein> i would say it might be graphics driver related then
[04:39] <holstein> i remember some issues after sleeping even with some intel hardware i used to use
[04:41] <fennec> hello~
[04:42] <nanotube> but it did work for a bit. well... could be compiz screwed it up. somewhere in between i ran compiz --replace, then after some more time, xfwm4 --replace to go back...
[04:42] <fennec> I've been having an issue connecting to a monititor  via vga. It doest detect it at all
[04:42] <nanotube> maybe after a reboot or a relogout/login it'll get back :)
[04:42] <nanotube> i wonder how soon the next kernel update is coming down the pike... otherwise it may be a while before i reboot ;)
[04:42] <nanotube> fennec: does the monitor work?
[04:43] <fennec> yes
[04:43] <fennec> very
[04:43] <holstein> fennec: it might not... you can explore other drivers, assuming there is one available... otherwise, the support might just not be there.. sometimes you can force a mirror from the bios
[04:43] <fennec> the reason i want to work is cause my laptop has a flickering screen
[04:43] <fennec> its a g72gx
[04:43] <fennec> i got the nvidia drivers
[04:43] <fennec> idk what to do
[04:47] <deathbysushi> howdy all, have a quick q if someone can help
[04:48] <fennec> we can try :)
[04:48] <deathbysushi> how do i get my full name in the me menu instead of just my username
[04:48] <deathbysushi> gconftool -s /system/indicator/me/display --type int 2
[04:48] <deathbysushi> does not work
[04:49] <deathbysushi> on xubuntu 11.10
[04:49] <fennec> me menu?
[04:49] <deathbysushi> it shows your username
[04:49] <deathbysushi> plus lock screen, shut down, etc
[04:49] <fennec> ahhh
[04:50] <fennec> lemme check, I remove mine but I think I know how
[04:50] <deathbysushi> i know with gnome, you could run the above gconf command in and it would work
[04:50] <fennec> :)
[04:50] <deathbysushi> awesome :D
[04:51] <fennec> hmm im not seeing how to change it from the panel settngs
[04:51] <fennec> have you tried the action button item?
[04:51] <fennec> it does virtually the same thing with an icon
[04:52] <fennec> if it matter to you
[04:52] <fennec> otherwise idk sorry
[04:52] <deathbysushi> thatss alright, thank you for the help!
[04:52] <deathbysushi> im gonna dig around, ill let you know if i find anything
[04:53] <fennec> okay
[04:53] <fennec> and btw
[04:53] <holstein> deathbysushi: theres an alternative to gconftool
[04:53] <fennec> In the panel settings, its called the session menu
[04:53] <fennec> for future reference
[04:53] <deathbysushi> i saw
[04:53] <deathbysushi> thanks for the help :D
[04:55] <fennec> try the action button
[04:55] <fennec> btw
[04:55] <fennec> did you just want to change it ot other text?
[04:55] <fennec> or an icon?
[04:55] <deathbysushi> just wanted it to say my full name
[04:55] <deathbysushi> vs my user name
[04:56] <fennec> ah
[04:56] <fennec> try this
[04:56] <deathbysushi> action button works equally well
[04:56] <fennec> askubuntu.com/questions/63172/how-to-remove-the-user-name-from-xubuntu-session-menu-panel-applet
[04:57] <deathbysushi> i saw this
[04:57] <deathbysushi> but its saying to use the action button
[04:57] <deathbysushi> which i think i will do
[04:57] <holstein> deathbysushi: nah... i cant find it... sorry..
[04:57] <deathbysushi> its no problem
[04:57] <deathbysushi> thanks again for the help1
[04:57] <deathbysushi> *!
[04:57] <fennec> np
[04:57] <fennec> btw
[04:58] <fennec> your username reminds me  of the killer pufferfish or whatever in japan
[04:58] <nanotube> deathbysushi: maybe there's something in settings editor
[04:58] <deathbysushi> fugu
[04:58] <fennec> yeah lol
[04:58] <deathbysushi> that was my inspiration
[04:58] <fennec> >.<
[04:58] <fennec> aha 8D
[04:58] <deathbysushi> gnight
[05:02] <fennec> nanotube: http://usa.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G72Gx/#download
[05:02] <fennec> holstien: http://usa.asus.com/Notebooks/Gaming_Powerhouse/G72Gx/#download
[05:03] <fennec> thos are the drivers for my comp
[05:03] <fennec> any suggestions?
[05:04] <holstein> fennec: you can just type "h" or "hol" and hit the 'tab' key :)
[05:04] <fennec> holstein:
[05:04] <holstein> :)
[05:04] <fennec> okay :)
[05:04] <fennec> sorry olol
[05:04] <holstein> nah... nothing to be sorry about... its just easier
[05:05] <holstein> fennec: i wouldnt expect to find linux drivers there... you'll need to go to the nvidial site... but where i would go first is in the repos
[05:05] <fennec> i already got the nvidia drivers
[05:05] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[05:06] <holstein> fennec: then, i would try the other drivers, even the vesa, though i would not expect more support there
[05:06] <Ben64> downloading drivers from nvidia's site isn't supported and will likely break on any kernel upgrade
[05:06] <holstein> yeah, but if you want to try to get the latest and greatest to provide some functionality, you might need to go to the site
[05:06] <Ben64> i use a PPA with new ones
[05:06] <fennec> 1sec
[05:07] <holstein> Ben64: cool... maybe that will help fennec get the external VGA support going
[05:07] <nanotube> well, try the vesa driver - if it doesn't work with that, then probably your card is hosed.
[05:07] <nanotube> everything works with vesa (however slowly)
[05:08] <fennec> http://i44.tinypic.com/4u9cec.png
[05:08] <fennec> maybe try the newer one?
[05:08] <fennec> and check out my mad bosozuko van desktop 8D
[05:09] <Ben64> what version is that
[05:09] <nanotube> fennec: yes can't hurt to try the current-updates version, i think. and, nice van. :)
[05:09] <fennec> I hope to live in one someday
[05:09] <fennec> I got high aspirations
[05:09] <Ben64> and what version ubuntu do you have?
[05:09] <fennec> :D
[05:09] <fennec> xubuntu 11.10
[05:10] <fennec> I customized it thoroughly
[05:10] <Ben64> ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[05:10] <Ben64> they have 290.10
[05:11] <fennec> will that help?
[05:11] <Ben64> depends what version you have
[05:11] <fennec> imma try curent verwsion first
[05:11] <fennec> then imma learn to spell
[05:11] <holstein> fennec: theres only one wat to find out!
[05:12] <fennec> okay imma restart in a min
[05:12] <Ben64> Package: nvidia-current (280.13-0ubuntu6)
[05:12] <Ben64> oh, its not too far behind
[05:12] <Ben64> i'm on Lucid, so my version is ancient
[05:13] <fennec> aha
[05:13] <Ben64> Package: nvidia-current (195.36.15-0ubuntu2)
[05:13] <fennec> I decided on xubuntu 11.10 rather than ubuntu 11.04 in fallback
[05:14] <Ben64> i stick to LTS on my main computer
[05:14] <fennec> lts?
[05:14] <Ben64> long term support
[05:14]  * holstein too
[05:14] <nanotube> i'd have stuck to the lts... but my new comp had driver issues with lts but no such issues with oneiric...
[05:14] <nanotube> so oneiric it was
[05:14] <Ben64> they release every two years, and are supported for 3 years on desktop
[05:15] <Ben64> my laptop hates 12.04, i'm not looking forward to that upgrade
[05:15] <holstein> 5 now, right?... 12.04 will be 5 for the desktop
[05:15] <Ben64> i thought 5 was for server only
[05:15] <holstein> Ben64: yeah, it was
[05:15] <Ben64> was?
[05:15] <holstein> its a new development
[05:15] <Ben64> cool
[05:16] <nanotube> ah nice. that said... that's a lot of extra support burden...
[05:16] <holstein> im actually not 100% sure it went through, and i think xubuntu and lubuntu and the others get to decide if they want to provide 5 years or not
[05:17] <nanotube> they can't even make a non-buggy default gui (unity, i'm looking at you), and here they go doing 5 years on desktop lts support... heh.
[05:17] <Ben64> unity pisses me off
[05:17] <Unit193> Xubuntu and Lubuntu will not have 5 years
[05:17] <Unit193> Kernel updates, sure
[05:17] <Ben64> xfce is pretty cool, but not enough plugins for the panel for me
[05:18] <fennec> Ive been thinking of getting something to put plasm active on
[05:18] <fennec> with opensuse and kde
[05:18] <fennec> the tablets for it are expensive
[05:18] <fennec> im thinking a touchscreen/convertible netbook
[05:18] <nanotube> Ben64: have you seen xfce4-goodies? :)
[05:18] <Ben64> yeah
[05:18] <fennec> I'm downloading them right now :o
[05:18] <nanotube> still not enough? :P
[05:19] <Ben64> i want cpu, gpu temps, cpu and mem graph
[05:19] <Ben64> didn't see any of those
[05:19] <nanotube> Ben64: i saw those
[05:19] <holstein> well, we havent seen a unity in LTS yet... but its not for me
[05:19] <nanotube> xfce4-something-sensors does temps
[05:19] <Ben64> i don't like any UI that doesn't let me move things around
[05:19] <nanotube> graphs, there's i think system-monitor
[05:19] <holstein> Unit193: yeah, we all get to take advantage of the repos being up for 5 years :)
[05:20] <Ben64> nanotube: system-monitor does bars only
[05:20] <nanotube> xfce4-sensors-plugin <- sensors
[05:21] <nanotube> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-cpugraph-plugin <- pretty graphs?
[05:21] <Ben64> hmmm, didn't see that one
[05:21] <Ben64> is there one for memory as well? :D
[05:22] <nanotube> http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-systemload-plugin
[05:22] <nanotube> seems to include memory
[05:23] <fennec> I'm having trouble doenloading it though
[05:23] <Ben64> hm
[05:23] <nanotube> fennec: downloading what?
[05:23] <Ben64> well I have until April 2013 to figure it out
[05:23] <fennec> Can you explain as if I were 5 years old (which I'm truly not that far away from)
[05:23] <fennec> downloading xfce4 goodies
[05:23] <fennec> the website is unspecific
[05:23] <nanotube> Ben64: finally, if all else fails, there's 'genmon' which you can script to do whatever you want. http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-genmon-plugin
[05:24] <nanotube> fennec: "sudo apt-get install xfce4-goodies"
[05:24] <fennec> ah thanks :p
[05:24] <Ben64> nanotube: !!!
[05:24] <Ben64> that sounds awesome
[05:24] <nanotube> Ben64: yes, yes it does :)
[05:24] <Unit193> Makes me want to say !apt :P
[05:24] <nanotube> Ben64: (haven't used it myself because the stock stuff does me well enough... but yea, my little scripty-ears perked up when i saw it :) )
[05:24] <nanotube> Unit193: hehe
[05:24] <Unit193> You can also open Synaptic and search for it there if you really must have a GUI
[05:26] <Unit193> xfce4-datetime-plugin is a good one, replaces the annoying clock
[05:26] <Ben64> nanotube: would it be able to make a graph? :)
[05:26] <nanotube> Ben64: the manual says "The string can also contain markup to displayed an image, a bar, a button and a personalized tooltip. "
[05:26] <Ben64> a bit of hax + imagemagick = memory graph
[05:26] <nanotube> so i'm guessing if you collect the data and generate a graph, it'll display it.
[05:27] <nanotube> righto :)
[05:27] <nanotube> Unit193: why is the clock annoying, and how's the datetime plugin better?
[05:28] <w30> j #kubuntu
[05:28] <Unit193> nanotube: Double click to open Orage in the center of the screen? No.  This is less annoying to me, just one thing I would love to have fixed
[05:28] <nanotube> w30: traitor! :)
[05:28] <nanotube> Unit193: ah the datetime one lets you open orage? i have orage running separately...
[05:29] <w30> nanotube, whatzzatt?
[05:30] <fennec> imma restart
 j #kubuntu :)
[05:30] <fennec> be right back
[05:31] <nanotube> and re: orage: korganizer, i'm leaving you. :)
[05:31] <Unit193> nanotube: No, the current one does
[05:33] <w30> nanotube, I keep one partition in a state of llimbo for different distros; every time something get a good review I try it. I triple boot but they are all Linux distros. 1)favorite 2) working on, tweaking 3) just trying out
[05:33] <nanotube> Unit193: oh, nice, didn't think of doubleclicking on it hehe. that makes it a +1 for me ;)
[05:33] <nanotube> w30: no need to explain, i was jk amigo :)
[05:34] <Unit193> nanotube: Figures, you are nanotube after all...
[05:35] <nanotube> is there some connection between nanotube and orage that i'm not getting, or are you just being random? ;)
[05:37] <w30> nanotube, I was happily using gnome and ubuntu until some idiots got the stupid idea of making a ipad touch interface for a desktop machine. I don't want a app menu that shows 5 apps on my 24 in monitor before I have to click show more..
[05:37] <nanotube> w30: yea same here. i'm a unity escapee :)
[05:38] <w30> I don't want fingerprints and peanut butter all over my screen either.
[05:38] <Unit193> w30: This isn't exactly the place to bash other flavors/DEs
[05:38] <nanotube> i gave it a fair shake for two weeks... and i actually had no issues with <winkey><start typing app name> because i'm a fast typist and am always at the kb. but it worked really poorly with multiple workspaces, and some apps failed to show up in alt-tab.
[05:39] <fennec> back
[05:39] <nanotube> hiya fennec
[05:39] <fennec> it fixed my boot but still no monitor
[05:39] <fennec> so good anyway
[05:39] <w30> Unit193, you are right but I just gotta get my vote in once in a while. Sorry
[05:39] <Ben64> no monitor? or no second monnitor?
[05:39] <fennec> are there any hdmi>vga cables?
[05:39] <fennec> yeah^^
[05:39] <nanotube> Unit193: isn't #distroname by definition a channel to complain about $everyotherdistro ? :D
[05:39] <Ben64> have you tried nvidia-settings
[05:40] <Ben64> its like ubuntu looked at windows 8 and said "yes!!"
[05:41] <fennec> no i haventt
[05:41] <fennec> I'll do it
[05:41]  * w30 joins #bitch_at_unity_on_topic
[05:41] <fennec> theres one?
[05:41]  * nanotube follows :)
[05:41]  * fennec joins
[05:41] <Ben64> fennec: it always works for me to add a monitor or change res or anything
[05:41] <nanotube> there is now :D
[05:56] <neothecat> i am installing xubuntu on a dell latitude E6500, and all the header and footers of the install windows are just blocks of pink.  it doesn't seem to be effecting the install, but i was wondering if this is an omen for problems in the future, maybe video card issues.
[06:05] <fennec> monitors working
[06:05] <fennec> :D
[06:05] <fennec> Thanks ben64
[06:05] <nanotube> fennec: what did you do?
[06:05] <nanotube> new driver?
[06:05] <Ben64> :D
[06:05] <nanotube> or that config panel?
[06:05] <fennec> new driver but idk if it mattered
[06:05] <fennec> i used nvidia config
[06:05] <fennec> yeah
[06:06] <nanotube> ic cool
[07:25] <krinetic> hello, on a fresh install of xubuntu 10.10 , how can I make my user to autologin. I forgot to change it when it installs and now i cant find the option in the settings menus.
[13:07] <digital_ownage> hello
[13:07] <digital_ownage> guys
[13:07] <digital_ownage> i am making an own distro (just for learning etc)
[13:07] <digital_ownage> and i am using xubuntu for it
[13:07] <digital_ownage> because it is fast and stable etc
[13:08] <digital_ownage> but now i want to know what all the programs are who are preinstalled
[13:08] <digital_ownage> ...
[13:08] <digital_ownage> well
[13:08] <digital_ownage> cyzo
[13:08] <Marzata> you got own repos?
[13:08] <digital_ownage> eh
[13:08] <digital_ownage> no
[13:08] <digital_ownage> i am just doing it by edditing the squahfs
[13:08] <digital_ownage> lol
[13:09] <digital_ownage> ...
[13:09] <knome> digital_ownage, check the dependencies (of dependencies) of xubuntu-desktop
[13:09] <digital_ownage> ok thank you
[13:09] <digital_ownage> cyzo
[13:09] <digital_ownage> cyao *
[13:14] <digital_ownage> back
[13:27] <_Pete_> digital_ownage: I think what you could do is to chroot to your squashfs mounted distro image, after that you can use normal package tools to add/remove what you want
[13:27] <_Pete_> I assume that squashfs thing is you have mounted .iso image or something?
[13:31] <silverpower> hmm, is there any reason why I'm hovering around 60% CPU on a totally idle desktop? I tried toggling off compositing but it didn't seem to help any.
[13:34] <digital_ownage> lol
[13:34] <digital_ownage> yes i do that pete
[13:34] <digital_ownage> i unsquashfs it
[13:34] <digital_ownage> and then i mount it
[13:34] <digital_ownage> then i chroot it
[13:35] <_Pete_> then you can use: dpkg -l to list all installed packages
[13:44] <Sysi> silverpower: open terminal and run "top" to see what eats your cpu (task manager in menu should work too)
[13:47] <Alan> is display management at all improved in 11.10 compared to 11.04?
[13:47] <Alan> i.e. placement of multiple monitors, etc.
[13:48] <Sysi> I can't check default GUI for that because I use nvidia but arandr works as always
[13:50] <silverpower> Sysi: it was X eating most of the CPU time. A restart seems to have gotten it down to a more reasonable 5-6% - my best guess would be my laptop had yet another thermal panic.
[13:50] <Alan> I seem to be in some awkward position at the moment where something is fighting the display management...
[13:50] <Alan> if i xrandr --output VGA1 --off, a second or so later the monitor comes back on...
[13:51] <Alan> and whatever's setting it back, sets the monitors up the wrong way around
[13:51] <Alan> however when i exit xfce and login again, it comes up a different way
[13:54] <Alan> oh, great, it's gnome-settings-daemon :(
[14:04] <Sysi> silverpower: too much uptime and/or bad driver
[16:14] <spongi> ciao a tutti
[17:17] <douglas> #xubuntu
[17:17] <douglas> trying to make a bootable usb stick with x11.10
[17:20] <hsyed> Howdy, Anyone able to help me with a fakeraid (motherboard based nvidia in raid 5) based installation. The xubuntu 11 installer doesn't seem to be installing grub correctly. I have told the installer to install the mbr on "/dev/mapper/nvidiaxxxx" (the device and not a partition). When I reboot I just get a blinking cursor (instead of insert install media and press any key to continue). What
[17:20] <hsyed> do I need to do ?
[17:21] <hsyed> will this -> http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic153346.html <- fix my problem ? i.e., chroot and manual grub installation ? I'm suspecting an issue with the softraid implementation or ?
[17:26] <hsyed> yep, that fixed the problem.
[17:27] <holstein> douglas: i use unetbootin
[17:27] <sewerurchin> unetbootin via linux is always a winner
[17:28] <sewerurchin> and available for win I hear
[17:28] <hsyed> it works in win
[17:31] <andy_> hello
[17:33] <Guest14699> hello
[17:45] <multipass> how do i update pidgin, i installed the new ppa and tryed to update
[17:45] <douglas> thanks holstein.  will get it and try that.
[17:46] <Sysi> multipass: search for pidgin with package manager, ppa package may have different name
[17:51] <douglas> interesting to note: unetbootin doesn't show x11.10 only up to 11.04.
[17:52] <holstein> douglas: ?
[17:52] <Sysi> depends about version you got, I alwasy use it with separatedly downloaded .iso:s
[17:52] <douglas> I wonder if that's been my issue. Trying to make a bootable 11.10 when it's not able to yet?
[17:52] <holstein> douglas: just install the software, and use whatever iso you downloaded
[17:52] <holstein> douglas: 11.10 *is* available
[17:53] <douglas> yes, I'm running unetbootin with x11.10 iso as we speak
[17:54] <douglas> now it seems unetbootin has gotten stuck
[17:54] <holstein> douglas: douglas go ahead and download the image from somewhere like this
[17:54] <holstein> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/11.10/release/
[17:54] <holstein> then point unet to that downloaded iso... it'll look like it has hung up for a bit in the middle...
[17:55] <douglas> I've run md5sum on my 11.10 iso and have a good number
[17:56] <douglas> holstein:  OK I'll  be more patient.  It's at 11th file of 188 files
[17:57] <holstein> douglas: if the 11th file is 'the big one', it'll take a while... if 10 minutes from now, you have no stick, you can try formatting it before making the bootable stick :)
[18:05] <cablop> would xubuntu run fine with 384 GB RAM only?
[18:05] <Sysi> it should, but things like webbrowser maybe don't
[18:08] <holstein> you can download it and try it live, and see for yourself what it will be like on that hardware... if you can tolerate it live, installed, it should be quite nice
[18:13] <Kurdistan> hi I wanted to report a bug. gnome system log does not work in xubuntu, but ksystemlog works just fine.
[18:14] <knome> Kurdistan, can you please report the bug in launchpad
[18:14] <Sysi> !ubuntu-bug
[18:14] <Sysi> hrm
[18:14] <knome> hey Sysi :)
[18:14] <Sysi> !bug
[18:14] <Sysi> oh hi old man
[18:14] <knome> ha :)
[18:15] <knome> at least i'm not looking like that (right now): http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/589324/jaipur
[18:15] <Kurdistan> knome :( I have forgotten my launchpad account
[18:15] <knome> (great game btw!)
[18:16] <Sysi> (racist!)
[18:16] <knome> Kurdistan, you can reset your password at https://login.launchpad.net/+login
[18:16] <knome> Sysi, that was about the beard, not the race :)
[18:18] <Kurdistan> knome, done. let se when I will get it or if I did correct.
[18:18] <Kurdistan> otherwise some of you can do it.
[18:19] <knome> Kurdistan, as long as you can get the bug filed, it will be eventually triaged in a vast majority of the cases
[18:19] <knome> of course, if you can give correct information, it's much easier ;)
[18:20] <Kurdistan> knome, :) I gave here.
[18:27] <foxxy> Hey
[18:27] <foxxy> Its fennec
[18:27] <foxxy> Nick was taken
[18:27] <foxxy> :p
[18:27] <multipass> anyone able to use multiple monitor setups? whenever i try to change a setting, the amdcccle crashes?
[18:28] <foxxy> I'm using one right now
[18:28] <foxxy> I did it with nvidia-settings
[18:28] <multipass> i have ATI
[18:28] <multipass> :\
[18:28] <foxxy> just got it figured out yesterday
[18:28] <Sysi> multipass: I think there's tool called aticonfig
[18:28] <foxxy> see if there is a similar driver setup tool
[18:28] <foxxy> ati-settings ? lol
[18:28] <multipass> well im using the cataylst control center
[18:29] <multipass> which is the gui for ati
[18:29] <multipass> i clic apply and it just crashes
[18:29] <foxxy> idk
[18:33] <Daew> Hello
[18:33] <foxxy> hi :D
[18:35] <Daew> How can I see/update my hardware drivers? I can't find it anywhere!
[18:36] <Sysi> menu -> settings -> additional drivers, otherly you pretty much already have the best
[18:36] <foxxy> menu> settings> additional drivers
[18:36] <foxxy> olol
[18:36] <Sysi> you can try kernel-team ppa if you want all the newest
[18:37] <Daew> Additional drivers doesn't find anything (It says: No proprietary drivers are in use on this system)
[18:37] <Sysi> do you have problem with something or are you just stuck on winxp-mode?
[18:38] <multipass> anyone else use ATI?
[18:38] <Daew> I tried to run some game but it says that it cant initialize graphical display
[18:39] <Daew> and it says under recommendations that I should update video drivers and enable hardware video aceleration
[18:39] <Sysi> multipass: yuo should try aticonfig, looks quite simple, like "sudo aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=right"
[18:40] <Sysi> Daew: what game, what graphics card? are you using wine?
[18:40] <Daew> Spiral knights (http://www.spiralknights.com), I have intel hd graphics, no wine
[18:43] <Sysi> Daew: run "grep -i "Direct rendering" /var/log/Xorg.0.log" does it give any output?
[18:44] <Daew> [    27.100] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled
[18:44] <Sysi> okay, you should have 3D working
[18:45] <Sysi> what does "uname -a" print?
[18:45] <Daew> [    27.100] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled
[18:45] <Daew> Ops
[18:45] <Daew> Sec
[18:45] <Daew> Linux daew-SATELLITE-C660 3.0.0-14-generic-pae #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 22:07:10 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[18:46] <Daew> I was able to start this game from the browser but colors were not working properly, so I installed it and now it doesn't work anymore (even if I uninstall and restart pc and try to run from browser again)
[20:28] <foxxy> Hallo
[20:38] <foxxy> hellu :3
[20:38] <foxxy> How do I register me nick?
[20:38] <Sysi> !register
[20:39] <foxxy> Thanks
[20:43] <Guest60961> :D
[20:44] <Guest60961> trying to choose a nick olol
[21:50] <Kingsy> does a vnc server come stock with xubuntu?
[21:50] <Sysi> I think not
[21:50] <multipass> can you search for files/folders in the stock file manager
[21:51] <Sysi> no, use catfish which is installed by default
[21:55] <multipass> o nice
[21:56] <multipass> anyone use gnome do on xfce?
[22:06] <TheSheep> multipass: I prefer synapse
[22:08] <multipass> any reason for that?
[22:08] <multipass> ive never used it
[22:08] <TheSheep> it's pretty similar, but more agnostic
[22:09] <TheSheep> also it seems to be simpler
[22:17] <nanotube> hm, synapse eh? what's it got that alt-f2 and terminal tab-completion don't got?
[22:17] <Sysi> hotkey *and* tab-completion afaik
[22:20] <TheSheep> nanotube: and search
[22:21]  * holstein prefers kupfer over gnome-do
[22:21] <nanotube> TheSheep: doesn't the terminal have search? ;)
[22:21] <nanotube> well, guess i'll just give it a try
[22:22] <TheSheep> nanotube: to be honest I don't use it that often
[22:22] <nanotube> heh now you tell me :D
[22:22] <TheSheep> nanotube: but it's convenient to type things instead of picking them from menu
[22:22] <TheSheep> nanotube: like "suspend"
[22:24] <nanotube> heh ic
[22:24] <nanotube> i do like to keep my hands on a kb. but isn't there a "blablasuspend" command or some such in the terminal.
[22:24] <nanotube> bbiaf
[22:25] <TheSheep> nanotube: even if there is, it requires sudo
[22:25] <Sysi> actually it could be possible with upower or something as regular user
[22:25] <Sysi> like mounting and unmounting is with gvfs
[23:10] <ElJosh> Hi Guys
[23:11] <ElJosh> Hi killbillkill
[23:11] <killbillkill> hi