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snadgeso i heard a rumour that theres a ppa which fixes laggy window movement01:57
snadgebut smspillaz has an alternative fix which conflicts01:58
snadgei think i ended up fixing the laggy window movement with a workaround.. adjusting the mouse polling01:58
snadgeand my other system uses unity-2d :D01:58
snadgelike a boss01:59
snadgeim rooting for 12.04 .. can i start testing stuff? :D02:09
snadgeor is that a bad idea02:09
snadgeit cant be any worse than the production code we're using right now.. *bdom tish*02:10
kamstrupdavidcalle: hey happy new year mate :-)09:46
kamstrupdavidcalle: I am sure you filed a bug/feature request for overriding how results are merged from scopes into the lens, but I can't find it...09:47
kamstrupoh am I making this up? ;-)09:47
snadgeur trippin' .. nobody speaks in here.. sssshhhh ;)09:49
snadgei occasionally come in here to troll people.. unsuccessfully09:50
davidcallekamstrup, happy new year :)09:50
davidcallekamstrup, I've seen the awesome merger branch. Thank you!09:51
davidcalleLet me find this bug...09:51
davidcallekamstrup, Hum, I remember wanting to file it...09:53
kamstrupdavidcalle: hehe, maybe we only ever talked about it then09:56
kamstruplet me file on against libunity09:56
davidcallekamstrup, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/91168609:56
ubot5Ubuntu bug 911686 in unity "Lenses should sort results from multiple scopes" [Undecided,New]09:56
kamstrupah thanks!09:57
kamstrupdavidcalle: history repeats itself - see the comment I just added to the bug...10:01
kamstrup:-/10:01
davidcallekamstrup, oh noes!10:01
kamstrupmy words10:01
kamstrupit seems that me and pygobject don't get along very well...10:02
davidcallekamstrup, :/10:03
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mhall119who's a good person to talk to about how Lenses will be displayed in SoftwareCenter?13:55
mhall119specifically package naming and scopes as add-ons13:56
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gorddavidcalle, hey, before I forget you mentioned about http images in a lens not loading in the dash? (wasn't around at the time but was in my scrollback), do you have a bug for that? not got time to fix it atm but would like to keep it on my radar15:49
davidcallegord, I have one, let me get it15:49
gordfantastic, I actually think we are just trying to load too many http connections from one source at once, so it just drops connections somewhere. a queue should hopefully fix it15:50
davidcallegord, hum, I don't have one, let me file it ;)15:51
davidcalleOh, and I really would like you to give a look at this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/87801515:52
ubot5Ubuntu bug 878015 in unity (Ubuntu) "Non square icons don't fill result tiles as much as they should" [Medium,Confirmed]15:52
gord davidcalle yeah been on my list for a while, i'll get around to it eventually promise ;)15:53
davidcallehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/91183115:56
ubot5Ubuntu bug 911831 in unity "Http icons sometimes replaced by undefined icons in the Dash" [Undecided,New]15:56
davidcallegord ^15:57
gordyeah triaging it now15:57
gordcool, thanks :)15:58
mick0oh yes please fix that one :)16:00
mhall119didrocks: kenvandine: ping16:46
mhall119davidcalle: ping to you too16:46
davidcallemhall119, hey16:47
didrockshey mhall11916:47
mhall119didrocks: hey, you did the debian packaging feature of quickly, right?16:48
mhall119davidcalle: do you have a blog, and if so is it on planet.ubuntu.com?16:48
mhall119I'd like to see your lense work show up on more than just Google+16:49
davidcallemhall119, I don't.16:49
didrocksmhall119: indeed16:49
mhall119didrocks: I'd like to do something just like that for lp:singlet, to generate and build packages for Unity lensees16:50
didrocksmhall119: yeah, I read your blog post, do you know that we already had (but a deprecated one) quickly template for lenses?16:50
mhall119davidcalle: would you be interested in starting a blog?16:50
didrocksmhall119: maybe you should just integrate your code snippet to it, as a quickly template16:50
didrocksand you will get the packaging feature for free :)16:50
mhall119didrocks: I heard about that after the fact, yes16:50
mhall119is that in the quickly trunk?16:51
didrocksmhall119: so, I'm happy to work on that with you if you don't mind16:51
didrocksmhall119: no, and I think that your work is more advanced, it was at the same of only vala lenses16:51
mhall119didrocks: that'd be awesome16:51
didrocksmhall119: excellent, can we talk about it tomorrow? (not sure of your time zone?)16:51
mhall119only vala?16:52
mhall119didrocks: I'm US/Eastern, so it's 12pm for me16:52
didrocksmhall119: yeah, but that's stone age for now (more than a year! ;))16:52
didrocksmhall119: ok, do you think you have some time tomorrow? I can give it a look in my morning16:52
didrocksand see how we can integrate it16:52
mhall119it's funny how quickly things become stone-aged on a 6 month cadence16:52
mhall119didrocks: yup, just give me a ping16:53
didrocksright, it's funny and frightning :)16:53
mhall119at least we're not doing 6-week cycles like Mozilla, that's scary16:53
didrocksmhall119: great! will ping you back then and nice work on singlet! I'm amazed how your reduced the boiler plate!16:53
mhall119didrocks: thanks16:53
mhall119!16:54
didrocksyou*16:54
mhall119davidcalle: are you an Ubuntu member?16:57
davidcallemhall119, sorry was in a meeting. I'm not a member and I have a blog ready for ohscopes, I've just never started it.17:00
mhall119davidcalle: you should definitely apply for membership, there are people who would definitely support you, and then we can get your blog syndicated on planet.ubuntu.com17:01
mhall119let me know when you have the ohscopes blog setup too, so I can spread the word17:01
davidcallemhall119, I will, probably this week-end, for membership and blog.17:02
mhall119awesome17:03
mhall119davidcalle: I'm going to start trying to get some of these lenses and scopes into software center, which ones are in the best shape for me to start with?17:06
davidcalleGrooveshark scope , utilities lens + calculator scope + cities scope, torrents lens + piratebay scope are good too, but it's controversial and has an "adult" filter.17:09
davidcalleThe package descriptions are not great. Feel free to change them :)17:11
davidcallemhall119 ^17:11
davidcalleWhat is needed to have them in the archive?17:12
kenvandinemhall119, pong17:17
mhall119kenvandine: do you have some time on your schedule to help us package some scopes?17:18
kenvandinenot really...17:18
kenvandinealthough it should be quick and easy17:18
kenvandinemaybe i can do one as an example?17:19
mhall119kenvandine: that would be great17:19
kenvandinepoint me at one and i'll create the package sometime this week17:19
mhall119kenvandine: if you there's anything special or specific about doing lense packaging, a blog post about it would benefit the rest of the community17:19
kenvandinetrue :)17:19
mhall119davidcalle: you have some packaged already, right?17:20
kenvandinethere isn't anything special really17:20
kenvandinejust making sure things end up in the right directory17:20
davidcallemhall119, well, everything in the PPA ;-)17:20
mhall119davidcalle: where's the ppa again?17:22
mhall119kenvandine: there are different "right directory" requirements when going through MyApps as opposed to Universe, right?17:22
davidcallemhall119, https://code.launchpad.net/~scopes-packagers/+archive/ppa17:22
kenvandinemhall119, not sure actually, i think i heard something about putting things in /opt for MyApps17:23
mhall119davidcalle: looks like you've already got them all packaged?  In that case we just need to get them submitted17:23
kenvandinehowever, i don't think unity will work with that17:23
davidcallemhall119, I've talked to Stephane Graber and the ARB is fine with some files being out ot /opt17:23
kenvandinecool17:23
mhall119davidcalle: good17:23
mhall119davidcalle: do you know how they are going to identify a scope as an add-on to a specific lens package?17:24
mhall119in software center17:24
davidcallemhall119, the problem is that scopes depends on lenses, and packages from myapps can't depend on each other...17:24
kenvandineprobably a suggests17:24
kenvandinethey can suggest it without depending on it17:24
davidcallekenvandine, I think you are right, that's the way it's currently done.17:24
mhall119kenvandine: or an rdepends maybe17:24
kenvandinei think if you add the suggests software center does the right thing17:25
mhall119ok, so the lens package needs to list the scopes for it?  that seems backwards17:25
kenvandinemhall119, i suspect so... but that is sub-optimal17:25
mhall119ok17:26
kenvandineyou should probably ask someone on the software center team to confirm17:26
kenvandinemaybe there is another way17:26
mhall119davidcalle: lets pick one lense to start with, and try and get it uploaded to 12.0417:26
kenvandinebut i can't see one17:26
mhall119kenvandine: ok17:26
mhall119I'm still not clear if these should go through MyApps or REVU17:27
davidcallemhall119, the utilities lens + calculator scope + cities scope (weather forecast), seems to be a good combo to start with.17:27
mhall119davidcalle: are both of those scopes for the utilities lense?17:27
davidcalleIt's a calculator + forecast on city name, in the Home Dash.17:27
davidcalleYes. The utilities lens is a hidden lens, not in the scope bar, just used to host "utilities" scopes.17:28
davidcallethe lens bar* :)17:28
mhall119how about the graphic design lens? is that in good shape?17:29
davidcallemhall119, it is, but it has four scopes by default. So, more packages to put in the archive.17:29
mhall119we can do them one at a time though can't we?17:31
mhall119it'll require updating the lens package with the additional Suggests, but that shouldn't be difficult to do17:31
davidcallemhall119, sure. If we pick this one,  I should add a package checking in the lens daemon, to avoid displaying filters of not available scopes. Just in case.17:32
mhall119oh, are they coded into the daemon?17:33
davidcalleThe filters are always in the lens daemon. You can't define filters form the scopes.17:34
davidcallefrom*17:34
mhall119ok, I understand what you mean now17:37
davidcallemhall119, lenses provide the category + filter structure and scopes fill it with data.17:37
mhall119and some filters don't make sense to have without a specific scope, I gotcha now17:37
davidcallemhall119, indeed17:37
mhall119in that case, let's start with the utilities lens + calculator and forecast scopes17:37
mhall119kenvandine: ^^ can you look at the existing packages for those and let us know what, if anything, needs to be changed before going to the ARB?17:38
mhall119https://code.launchpad.net/~scopes-packagers/+archive/ppa/+packages17:38
davidcallemhall119, as a bonus, it's a long-time requested Unity feature, a calculator.17:38
mhall119that'll be good to highlight then17:39
davidcallekenvandine, unity-lens-utilities, unity-scope-cities and unity-scope-calculator. But you may just need to look at one, the packaging is done exactly in the same way for all.17:40
davidcallemhall119, kenvandine, maybe before going to the ARB, we should wait for the libunity API changes to land. Or we choose Oneiric as a target.17:47
mhall119do we know what API changes are planned?17:47
mhall119I'm okay with targetting oneiric for now, that way I can use them right away :)17:47
davidcallemhall119, they have started to land in the Unity PPA. I don't know exactly what is planned.17:49
mhall119ok, let's target oneiric then17:49
davidcallemhall119, sounds good.17:50
mhall119kenvandine: someone has submitted a package branch for lp:singlet, I'll probably get with you to look over it once I merge17:50
kenvandinemhall119, cool18:09
cybershoeGood morning (for certain values of morning).18:10
cybershoeI have the domain "unitydesktop.com", from a project that never launched.18:10
cybershoeI want to offer it up to the Ubuntu team if anyone wants it, otherwise I'm just going to let it lapse.18:10
cybershoeDoes anyone know who would be the appropriate person to contact about this?18:10
mhall119jono: jcastro: ^^18:10
jcastrowow, no clue there18:11
jcastrowebmaster@ubuntu.com maybe?18:11
jonocybershoe, can you email me at jono@ubuntu.com about this18:11
jcastroor just mail jono. :)18:11
cybershoejono: will do.18:11
jonocybershoe, I will put you in touch with the right person18:11
jonomany thanks18:11
cybershoeNo worries.18:11
cybershoeI settled on the domain name about a week before I found out you were branding the new UI as Unity. True story.18:12
mhall119jcastro: I think newz2000 still gets webmaster emails, and I don't think he'd be the one...18:13
cybershoejono: gmailed18:14
jcastrocybershoe: heh, thanks for contacting us, thumbs up.18:14
mhall1192/w 4618:24
mhall119bah18:24
chabiehello..18:25
chabiei have any problem wiyh my ubuntu..18:27
chabiehelp me!!18:27
chabieping API18:27
chabiehello..18:29
chabiehelp me !!!18:29
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chabiei can't play pes 2011 on my ubuntu..18:29
chabieglatzor..18:31
glatzorchabie, ?18:31
mick0chabie: you mean the soccer game, pes 2011?18:35
mhall119he must really like that game18:36
chabieyes that my mean..18:40
mick0I doubt that game has native support for linux.18:41
chabiewhat that ?18:42
chabiethere is some one that can help me??18:44
chabiei really want to play that game on my ubuntu..18:45
mhall119chabie: the main ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu, there are more people available there to help you18:45
chabie:-&18:45
chabieoke.. thanks for your suggestion18:46
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mick0Is there a better way to get unity to notice new lenses then logging out and then in? All my tabs and open files gets sad..21:00
balloonsunity --reset perhaps?21:01
mick0yep. that did it :) All windows end up on one workspace though.21:04
balloonsunity --reset is definitely my friend21:14
mick0oh yes thats the stuff. My search for movies to see on (ofc legal) torrent sites top lists just got compleatly mouseless.21:14
mick0imdb in the dash :D21:15
mhall119mick0: theres a bug on LP to make that easier21:18
* charles is tickled at the idea of a torrent search lens21:27
mick0is it possible to make some part of the test in global results bold or a bit larger?21:44
mick0test should be text21:45
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