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bambeeRiddell: when you've time, could you add my pubkey "bambi@bambi-XPS-L502X" (see lp) to ftpmaster.kde.org (the machine which contains the uploaded tarball, don't remember its exact name). Thanks in advance08:17
bambeemorning btw :)08:17
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Riddellbambee: what's your lp username?10:54
bambeeRiddell: bambi10:56
Riddellbambee: what shall I do with  bambi@linux-EX58-UD4P key?11:02
davmor2Riddell: How's things dude?11:02
Riddelldavmor2: brain better if not great yet, eyes still wonky, windy weather tretcherous11:08
davmor2Riddell: wow you even managed to make yourself sound like the shipping forecast then, well at least in my head ;)11:10
Riddellobviously I've been listening to too much Radio 4 :)11:17
Riddellbambee: added11:38
* Riddell wibbles a bit about bug 91165911:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 911659 in update-manager (Ubuntu Precise) "lucid -> precise upgrade failed: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'phonon-backend-gstreamer'" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91165911:38
bambeeRiddell: thanks11:46
bambeeRiddell: bambi@linux-EX58-UD4P is my desktop11:46
Riddellbambee: wanting to package something?11:47
bambeeRiddell: yes, probably this evening (I am at work)11:47
bambeekde 4.8rc2 for example11:47
Riddellbambee: groovy, I expect to get started on that shortly so check with me to not duplicate11:51
bambeeok11:53
schnelleguys are you watching this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469 ?11:53
ubottuKDE bug 275469 in widget-taskbar "4 7 Regression: closed windows stay in the taskbar sometimes, taskbar doesn't react on clicks" [Normal,Reopened]11:53
schnelleseems that it is qt bug afterall11:53
schnelleand there is easy way to reproduce it ( see comment #125)11:54
schnelleso it would be nice to patch qt for precise :)11:54
Riddellschnelle: do you know if there is a qt patch?11:56
schnelleRiddell: John Stanley made few patches and they all fix the bug11:59
schnelleand he proposed patches to https://bugreports.qt.nokia.com11:59
Riddellschnelle: ok I've added to my todo, if you want you could make a launchpad bug which links to that bugs.k.o entry incase my todo gets lost12:01
schnelleRiddell: I will open lauchpad bug and will add you to subscribers :)12:02
schnellethank you12:02
schnelleRiddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/91173312:40
ubottuUbuntu bug 911733 in Ubuntu "Patch Qt to fix annoying KDE bug 275469 (ghost taskbar entries)" [Undecided,New]12:40
schnelleI added you to subscribers12:40
Riddellthanks schnelle 12:43
alleeSeriously: can't we turn of qdebug in soprano?  Too much continues garbage in .xsession-error :(15:00
alleethat a build time thing AFAIU.15:01
Riddellallee: maybe I don't know if it's been suggested before15:01
alleeRiddell: several times AFAIK.   apachelogger?  ScottK ? ^^15:08
Riddellallee: the obvious questions are 1) how and 2) what options does that leave people who do want to read debugging from soprano?15:09
rdieterRiddell: build with -DQT_NO_DEBUG_OUTPUT (that's what we in fedora do recently)15:14
Riddellrdieter: any complaints from people who do want to debug soprano?15:15
rdieterRiddell: none yet15:15
RiddellI expect soprano developers/debuggers are elite enough to compile it themselves :)15:17
alleeRiddell: I've ping sopraono upstream.   ( IMHO it's not good for nepomuk reputation if 99% in .xsession-errror is sematik desktop related.  )15:23
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afiestasIs there any plans to package Qt 4.8 for 12.04  ?15:47
Riddellafiestas: yes, debfx current has the lock on that15:49
afiestasRiddell: lock ? as he is working on it?15:50
Riddellafiestas: he said he was (and since I'm busy on KDE RC2 I haven't had need to investigate)15:51
Riddellaw it needs xinput refresh and possible update according to http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/01/01/%23kubuntu-devel.html15:52
afiestasRiddell: okiz, I'd like to switch to Kubuntu again but I need Qt :p15:52
Riddellafiestas: or convince fabo to package it :)15:54
faboit is packaged, just not built/uploaded :)15:55
Riddellfabo: oh the xinput patch got whatever it needed?15:55
afiestasfabo do you mind to send me the recipe ?15:56
Riddellthis might also hvae a patch it needs for libreoffice https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4029815:56
ubottuFreedesktop bug 40298 in Spreadsheet "EDITING: Crash when moving cells, QX11PixmapData::createCompatiblePixmapData" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]15:56
fabono, it has been disabled as a workaround. I should be able to take a look later today15:56
Riddellfabo: or poke cnd more frequently :)15:57
RiddellKRF also asked about building with -reduce-relocations15:57
faboafiestas: if you don't mind about xinput patch, we should be able to put it in a ppa in the meantime15:57
faboRiddell: -reduce-relocations is in15:58
afiestasfabo: will I be able to use a simple mouse ?15:58
Riddelloh good, happy KRF15:58
faboafiestas: definitely15:58
Riddellfabo: what happened to the libqt-mm or whatever library you said was needed for the networkmanagement package?15:59
faboRiddell: have you grabbed networkmanagement? I had issue with my provider so might have missed some messages15:59
Riddellfabo: no I've not tested it yet15:59
Riddellfabo: your provider isn't just ethernet?16:00
faboRiddell: libqt-mm is used by next release 0.9.1 (in master branch). we should use the released versions from nm09 branch16:00
Riddellah right16:00
fabo0.9.0~rc3 is in the ppa16:00
faboI tested locally, works for me16:01
afiestasfabo: perfect !16:01
faboand it's the version available in sid16:01
RiddellI use a 3G mobile modem so I'm quite a useful test case for it16:01
faboit's even in wheezy16:02
fabo0.9~git20111126.1ef1677-1 = 0.8.98 = 0.9.0~rc3 :)16:02
KRFyeh. thanks Riddell + fabo ;)16:02
KRFjust found another bug, though. seems like the gold linker is ignoring the ld flag --dynamic-list which is implied by Qt's -reduce-relocations16:03
KRFnasty stuff, in any case16:03
RiddellKRF: the gold linker?16:06
fabobinutils-gold16:09
Riddellso it that something for the binutils-gold maintainer to look at?16:09
Riddellhow to get emacs to be in a useful mode for editing changelogs instead of an annoying one?16:09
fabowell, we have more bug reported by him than fixed by him :)16:10
* fabo looks in the room16:10
KRFRiddell: yep, gold. i'm about to file a bug upstream16:13
faboRiddell: qtmobility ftbfs with Qt4.8, package fixed uploaded to Debian16:15
RiddellI've a funny feeling inside me that qt-at-spi just got a release too16:16
cndRiddell, fabo: you can either leave the xinput patch disabled or refresh it16:33
cndit should be a trivial refresh I would think16:33
cndunless you are updating to a new release?16:33
cndif you disable it, I'll refresh it when I port it to the new xinput implementation16:33
Riddellcnd: I've not looked into it but Qt 4.8 is a new release16:34
cndok, I haven't looked at 4.8 yet16:35
cndunless you can figure out a trivial refresh yourselves, I suggest just disabling the patch for now16:35
fabocnd: I look into it16:35
bambeeRiddell: I upload packages directly to the ppa, right? (kde 4.7.97)18:04
bambeeI mean, kubuntu-ninjas18:04
Riddellbambee: yes18:04
Riddellbut you should first tell me which you're doing so we don't overlap18:04
RiddellI've got none on the go just now18:04
Riddellalso I can do ec2 machines if that helps18:05
Riddellbambee: I've uploaded all the ones in yellow on the wiki page to the PPA18:05
bambeemhhh ok18:06
bambeeRiddell: I will upload kdeadmin18:08
bambeeRiddell: could you update https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging ?18:08
Riddellyes, shortly18:09
bambeeRiddell: wiki updated (including the ones in yellow)  ;)18:31
Riddellcool thanks bambee :)18:32
bambeeyw :)18:32
Riddellcan you do meta-kde too bambee?18:33
bambeesure18:34
bambeethere is no option --color to bzr diff ? :O arrf...20:20
bambeethat's useful... really...20:20
ScottKbzr diff > patch && vim patch20:26
ScottKor something like that.20:26
yofelbzr diff | vim -20:28
ScottKMuch better.20:31
* bambee uses emacs20:37
* bambee hides20:37
ScottKbambee: No need to hide, just go sit next to Riddell.20:38
* bambee hugs Riddell20:38
ScottKAny objections to 4.7.4 going to oneiric-proposed once I have time for it?21:24
ScottKIt looks like the pim related commits have finally died down.21:24
cyphermoxScottK: I remember you had some interest in ntrack due to the fact it gets used by kde-runtime; would you be open to sponsoring my upload?21:33
ScottKcyphermox: Not today.  Perhaps later in the week.  Busy with work.21:33
cyphermoxScottK: sure, not a problem21:33
cyphermoxthanks a lot; worst case someone will get to it before then, since it's in the queue21:34
ScottKIf not, give me a ping.21:38
Riddellhola23:05
RiddellScottK: 4.7.4 yes please23:05
Riddellcyphermox: can sponsor now if needed23:06

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