[00:34] <jono> hey balloons
[00:34] <balloons> hey jono
[00:35] <jono> balloons, mind if we put a call in the calendar for this week?
[00:35] <jono> just a prep call for you starting next week
[00:35] <balloons> not a problem, Friday would work best for me
[00:35] <jono> perfect
[00:35] <jono> any preferred time?
[00:35] <balloons> not really.. but that does remind me. I need to confirm a ride from the airport with you :-)
[00:36] <jono> balloons, that was one thing I wanted to discuss :-)
[00:36] <jono> what time do you get in again?
[00:36] <balloons> lol.. logisitics, logistics.. let me check. I sadly got to attend a funeral to ring in the new year so I was randomly out of town and afk last week
[00:37] <balloons> looks like 12:15 pm I land
[00:37] <jono> balloons, oh sorry to hear that
[00:38] <balloons> thanks... it was my wife's grandfather.. funny guy, he'll be missed. But yes, prepping now for this trip
[00:38] <jono> balloons, I get in at 2.15pm
[00:39] <jono> balloons, so are you happy to sit around and drink a liter of Hungarian Coffee while you wait for me to arrive?
[00:39] <balloons> alright, so that's 2 hours in the airport for me assuming on-time arrivals
[00:39] <balloons> yea, I can hang out in the airport -- do they have a lounge we can get into?
[00:40] <jono> balloons, unfortunately you haven't got your priority pass yet
[00:40] <jono> but there are some cafes in arrivals if I remember
[00:41] <jono> balloons, I will send you my itin so you can see my flight details
[00:42] <balloons> ok, that sounds good jono -- thoughts on how to make sure the meetup goes as planned? we'll both have US phones sadly
[00:43] <jono> balloons, can you send me a recent photo of youself
[00:43] <jono> maybe you can wear a rose and stand under a clocktower
[00:43] <jono> lol
[00:44] <jono> balloons, I will wear an Ubuntu t-shirt when I arrive so you can see it is me - just look for a guy who looks like me with that t-shirt and we should be good
[00:45] <balloons> lol.. we'll discuss and I'll send itinerary details to you as well so we can at least track planes.. I
[00:45] <jono> balloons, cool
[00:45] <balloons> I don't have a rose, but I do have a red backpack
[00:45] <balloons> hehe
[00:45] <jono> I was thinking that if you stand where passengers enter arrivals we should see each other
[00:45] <balloons> well assuming I can get to your gate, i'll hang out there in the seats
[00:46] <cjohnston> balloons: mhall119 will give you $5 if you have a rose for jono
[00:46] <jono> cjohnston, LOL
[00:46] <jono> balloons, the other option is that you make a glittery sign with my name on it
[00:46] <jono> lol
[00:46] <balloons> cjohnston: care to match? I've got a white and a red one left over from the funeral
[00:46] <balloons> :-)
[00:47] <balloons> they may be a bit dead by budapest, but ... zzz
[00:47] <cjohnston> lol
[00:47] <balloons> ohh glittery sign!
[00:47] <balloons> definitely should do that
[00:47] <jono> hah
[00:48] <jono> balloons, call at 10am Pac on Fri ok for you?
[00:48] <balloons> yep, let me slot you in
[00:48] <jono> thanks balloons
[00:48] <jono> balloons, could you mail me your number again
[00:48] <balloons> sure can
[00:48] <cjohnston> balloons: are you in FL?
[00:49] <jono> balloons, dont' answer
[00:49] <jono> you can't trust cjohnston
[00:49] <balloons> your welcome to g+ hangout with me also.. got a nice new webcam (assuming you want to see my pearly whites)
[00:49] <jono> balloons, let's do that
[00:49] <jono> you can see my English teeth
[00:49] <jono> like normal teeth, but English
[00:49] <balloons> cjohnston: yes -- I believe we've even met
[00:50] <cjohnston> wow.. gettin thrown under the bus by jono
[00:50] <cjohnston> orly
[00:50] <jono> cjohnston, lol
[00:50] <cjohnston> hrm
[00:50] <jono> you know I love you brother
[00:50] <cjohnston> yup
[00:51] <balloons> cjohnston: nervous? haha..
[00:52] <cjohnston> balloons: I assume your the Nicholas Skaggs who is friends with Jono and Daniel
[00:52] <cjohnston> where did we meet
[00:52] <balloons> yes -- I'm also a friend of svwilliams
[00:52] <balloons> which is how we have met, albeit briefly
[00:52] <cjohnston> were you at UDS?
[00:52] <balloons> if -- your the chris johnston I'm thinking of...
[00:52] <cjohnston> for a couple hours or something
[00:52] <balloons> yes
[00:53] <cjohnston> gotcha
[00:53] <cjohnston> yup
[00:53] <cjohnston> thats me
[00:53] <balloons> I was sick that week sadly, but I was there
[00:53]  * balloons says "this isn't the chris johnston your looking for" in my best obi-wan voice
[00:53] <cjohnston> You up in the G'ville area?
[00:54] <balloons> yes -- I was the other half of the crazy cat commuting team from gainesville
[00:54] <cjohnston> Too bad
[00:55] <MrChrisDruif> balloons; could you quit referring to cjohnston as chris johnston? I've got a highlight for chris ^_^
[00:55] <cjohnston> chris
[00:55] <cjohnston> chris
[00:55] <cjohnston> chris
[00:55] <cjohnston> chirs
[00:55] <cjohnston> chirs
[00:55] <jcastro> has anyone seen chris?
[00:55] <cjohnston> ehh 3 out of 5 aint bad
[00:55] <balloons> rofl rofl
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif> cjohnston;
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif> cjohnston;
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif> cjohnston;
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif> cjohnston;
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif> cjohnston;
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif> cjohnston;
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif> cjohnston;
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif> cjohnston;
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif>  ;-)
[00:56] <balloons> MrChrisDruif, I will try.. Can't say much about the rest of these guys :-)
[00:56]  * cjohnston turns of phone
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif> Ghehe ^_^
[00:56] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks balloons =)
[00:57] <mhall119> jono: he's still upset you didn't have a rose for him at UDS-P
[00:57] <mhall119> bah, meant for cjohnston, not jono
[00:57] <cjohnston> lol
[00:58] <balloons> mhall119, jcastro speaking of flights, where are you guys flying out of?
[00:58] <jcastro> I fly out of either FLL or PBI
[00:58] <balloons> if I may ask... I had the choice of a orlando commute..
[00:58] <mhall119> balloons: I'm not :(
[00:58] <jcastro> I let the travel agent decide, whichever is cheapest
[00:59] <balloons> jcastro, ahh.. you stay well south of me
[00:59] <jcastro> balloons: what we can do in the future is when we're all going to the same place is to book through the guy at the same time
[00:59] <mhall119> jcastro: +1
[00:59] <mhall119> definitely for next UDS
[00:59] <jcastro> like, if we fly Delta we'll always end up in atlanta first
[00:59] <jcastro> etc.
[00:59] <balloons> yes, I was thinking something along those lines
[00:59] <cjohnston> jono: i think you need to come to Orlando for global jam.. mhall119 and balloons will be here..
[00:59] <cjohnston> lol
[01:00] <mhall119> when is the next global jam?
[01:01] <MrChrisDruif> mhall119; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[01:01] <cjohnston> mhall119: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-florida/1445/detail/
[01:02] <mhall119> ah cool, thanks
[01:02] <jono> cjohnston, not sure I will be able to make it out
[01:02] <cjohnston> lol
[01:02] <jono> but a sprint in FL is not out of the question
[01:02] <jono> mhall119, I am just working on your 12.04 plan but I am not going to finish it today, will get it to you tomorrow
[01:02] <cjohnston> we need to get jcastro to come up for global jam this year
[01:02] <jono> we can then have a quick call to review
[01:02] <mhall119> jono: no problem
[01:03] <jono> mhall119, none of it should be much of a surprise
[01:03] <jono> apart from the "Listen to Cannibal Corpse" item
[01:03] <jono> :-)
[01:03] <mhall119> :(
[01:03] <maco> it took about 8 hours, but i finally remembered my gpg key
[01:03] <maco> i mean gpg key passphrase
[01:04] <mhall119> I was gonna say, remembering the whole key, that's pretty darn impressive
[01:04] <jono> mhall119, it's ok, we can still be friends
[01:04] <jono> just no pay raises for you, ever
[01:04] <jono> lol
[01:05] <cprofitt> nice maco
[01:05] <mhall119> that's okay, the pay raises would barely cover the hearing aids anyway
[01:06] <mhall119> jono: I have a 6 and 7 year old, I get all the banging, thrashing and screaming I can take already
[01:06] <maco> also apparently you cant use a secret key when the public key's not in your keyring
[01:06] <jono> mhall119, LOL
[01:06] <maco> just syncing secring.gpg is not enough
[01:09] <cjohnston> mhall119: we should send the kids to Cali during summer break for a few days of fun with Uncle Jono
[01:10] <cprofitt> lol
[01:10] <cprofitt> my kids would have jono on the ceiling in a matter of minutes
[01:10] <cprofitt> I would never do that to him or them
[01:10] <jcastro> man dude cprofitt
[01:10] <jcastro> trhat wifi article you linked to is awesome
[01:11] <jcastro> I totally just moved my stuff to the right channel
[01:11] <cprofitt> it is... I was impressed with the read... and the concept the guy had for identifying the neighbors stuff
[01:11] <cjohnston> link
[01:11] <cprofitt> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-howto/31656-it-takes-a-neighborhood-to-fix-bad-wireless
[01:12] <cprofitt> the site is pretty good to for NAS and Wireless reviews
[01:13] <mhall119> cjohnston: +1
[01:15] <balloons> cprofitt, ahh yes.. set your router to channel 8 and cause interfence on both channel 6 and 11 :-)
[01:20] <jcastro> I don't like the idea of associating my essid to my address though
[01:20] <jcastro> I would just tell the dude next to me "I'll take this one, you take that one."
[01:22] <balloons> in the past I've always just scanned and tried to find the least congested channel.. as time goes on you inevitably have to rescan
[01:22] <cprofitt> jcastro: I agree about the address part... though to be honest... it wouldn't be that hard to find out which house has which ssid
[01:23] <jcastro> yeah I guess it depends wether you're in NYC or in a suburb
[01:25] <cprofitt> yeah... in the city it would be a bit harder
[09:30] <dpm> good morning everyone
[11:07] <cjohnston> mornin dpm
[11:09] <dpm> hey cjohnston :)
[12:52] <mhall119> morning
[12:55] <MrChrisDruif> afternoon
[13:40] <alourie> hello
[15:56] <jcastro> ~4 minutes jono?
[15:58] <jono> jcastro, yup
[16:02] <jono> jcastro, dpm, mhall119, balloons hangout invite sent
[16:02] <dpm> hey, coming over...
[16:03] <jono> balloons, don;t feel you need to join us
[16:03] <jono> we are just hanging for a bit
[16:05] <jono> mhall119, yoohoo!
[16:05] <mhall119> coming
[16:06] <jono> cheers
[16:54] <mhall119> jono: what are your thoughts on an Upstream blog/planet/portal website?
[16:54] <jono> mhall119, I don't think we need a portal
[16:55] <jono> the upstream world is so big I think it would not be hugely beneficial to Ubuntu
[16:56] <mhall119> ok, I'm thinking of where we can highlight work like david's other than personal blogs and facebook/g+
[16:57] <MrChrisDruif> David's work?
[16:57] <mhall119> davidcalle, onehundredscopes
[16:57] <jono> mhall119, in my mind we want to highlight in the wider community
[16:58] <jono> as opposed to a scoped (pun intended) planet
[16:58] <jono> although, who knows, this may make sense in the future
[16:58] <jono> I think our focus on this kind of outreach needs to be Planet, OMG, and our social media accounts
[16:59] <mhall119> ok, david doesn't currently have a blog (talking to him about starting one)
[16:59] <mhall119> and it doesn't look like he's an Ubuntu member yet either, so no planet access
[16:59] <pangolin> Who does one contact if they want to make/sell a product using the Ubuntu logo?
[17:07] <balloons> afternoon everyone - sorry I missed the hangout :-(
[17:07] <mhall119> good afternoon balloons
[17:10] <balloons> bit chilly here in fl -- got our first freeze(s) of the year
[17:10] <balloons> well of the winter I should say
[17:12] <pangolin> warn here in QC, -10C
[17:12] <pangolin> warm*
[17:13] <balloons> very nice! any snow yet?
[17:14] <pangolin> a lot less than normal
[17:14] <pangolin> but yeah we got an inch or two
[17:14] <balloons> my wife has friends across canada all who were lamenting the lack of snow.. been a different winter
[17:14] <pangolin> indeed
[17:15] <pangolin> slow start usually means a big finish
[17:15] <balloons> yep -- prepare for the late april ice storms
[17:16] <jcastro> dpm: the AU lens should be in the queue now
[17:16] <jcastro> he liked the process!
[17:16] <jcastro> "well thanks for your help, now I'll keep my fingers crossed this goes through and start working on the next thing (:"
[17:17] <dpm> jcastro, indeed it's there \o/ https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/arb/
[17:17] <jcastro> <--- lunching, be back in 60
[17:32] <mhall119> jcastro: dpm is there a reason lenses are going through myapps instead of revu?
[17:34] <dpm> mhall119, they can go either way (revu -> universe, myapps -> extras). I just thought having some nice and popular software (and easily packageable) go through myapps and the ARB process should both encourage ARB members and give some more visibility to the ARB process
[17:35] <dpm> at the moment, we do not have any free software in extras, and it'd be nice to have some
[17:35] <mhall119> dpm: okay
[17:35] <mhall119> what would be the difference between extras and Universe then?
[17:37] <dpm> the idea of extras.ubuntu.com and the ARB process was to speed up and streamline the workflow of apps getting into the Software Centre. However, there have been some blockers in the process and it does not work as effectively as intended, but we're working on ways to improve it
[17:39] <mhall119> is there any intent or process to move packages from extras into universe in subsequent releases?
[17:39] <maco> mhall119: i thought the idea was to not do that and therefore have abandonware disappear like it should
[17:40] <mhall119> maco: disappear out of universe, or out of extras?
[17:40] <maco> extras doesnt carry forward to the next release, so the abandonware that's not intentionally moved to the next release goes away when the release is EOL'd
[17:40] <jcastro> mhall119: I think of it this way, one is the debian way, one is the android way
[17:40] <dpm> mhall119, there is no formal process, but sometimes the ARB sends app developers to either universe, backports or Debian.
[17:41] <maco> universe automatically carries forward so abandonware lives on in our repos until someone makes an effort to remove it
[17:42] <mhall119> maco: dpm: jcastro: understood, thanks for clarifying for me
[17:42] <mhall119> makes much more sense now
[17:43] <dpm> mhall119, any time. If I can help clarifying anything, feel free to ask!
[17:45] <mhall119> dpm: how can an electron be both a wave and a partcle at the same time?
[17:45] <pangolin> lol
[17:45] <dpm> mhall119, 42?
[17:45] <pangolin> I was going to ask if he would mind clarifying those onions I have chopped
[17:45] <mhall119> ha
[17:45] <maco> how is a raven like a writing desk?
[17:46] <mhall119> specificity is important
[17:46] <dpm> I'll perhaps have to reduce the scope of my offer of help :)
[21:03] <bkerensa> :( I wasn't able to find one Ubuntu Women to mentor WOU students :(
[21:09] <AlanBell> how have you described the opportunity?
[21:11] <AlanBell> are you a lecturer at WOU?
[21:13] <pleia2> bkerensa: you can sign up to our mailing list and post the request there too
[21:13] <pleia2> unfortunately I think you'll find that most of us are already painfully over-committed
[21:14] <bkerensa> :)
[21:16] <AlanBell> same goes for any mentoring or volunteering thing, if you are looking for volunteers you have to describe in detail the level of commitment required and the return on investment of time
[21:19] <czajkowski> bkerensa: I saw both mails just nothing there I could help with, plus for me UW is a group I can post to if I was attending a conf to meet up with
[21:20] <AlanBell> and it will be of limited interest to people outside of the West Oregon area unless you describe why anyone who can't find Oregon on a map should be interested
[21:21] <czajkowski> add in timezones as well
[21:21] <bkerensa> AlanBell: I'm not a lecturer at WOU.... Initially WOU approached Ubuntu California and then they passed them to me ;) and as to the level of commitment it is all virtual and at most a hour or two per week discussing contributing to the Ubuntu Community. The professor has been a bit vague about details but thats because this is the first class focusing on contributing to Ubuntu in the State.
[21:22] <bkerensa> czajkowski: I have people in Egypt volunteering to mentor and stay up at odd hours if need be :P
[21:22] <bkerensa> I think Egypt and Portugal were the two out of country locations
[21:22] <czajkowski> bkerensa: well that;s good you have volunteers so
[21:23] <bkerensa> AlanBell: You can't find Oregon on a map? :)
[21:24] <mhall119> its in Canada, right?
[21:25] <AlanBell> bkerensa: it is in America somewhere, I can find America
[21:25] <AlanBell> can you find Surrey?
[21:25] <snap-l> Google Maps can. ;)
[21:25] <mhall119> lol
[21:25] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Of course I have a friend who is from there and his green card ended :D
[21:26] <AlanBell> :)
[21:26] <bkerensa> AlanBell: You ever hear of OSU OSL?
[21:26] <bkerensa> :D
[21:26] <AlanBell> nope
[21:26] <snap-l> Anyone know where Detroit is? :)
[21:26] <czajkowski> yes
[21:26] <czajkowski> 8 mile
[21:26] <AlanBell> good film
[21:27] <pangolin> I know where Detroit is but the CoC prevents me fromtellingyou.
[21:27] <czajkowski> eminem land
[21:27] <pangolin> wow, lack of spaces
[21:27] <snap-l> I'm glad Eminem is now the ambassador for Detroit.
[21:27] <bkerensa> AlanBell: http://osuosl.org/services/hosting/communities <--  in oregon
[21:27] <snap-l> For the longest time, Bob Seger was it.
[21:28] <bkerensa> Only thing I like from Detroit is that Pawn shop show
[21:28] <bkerensa> :P
[21:28] <snap-l> Also, having not seen 8-mile, I can assume it's as accurate for depicting Detroit as Crocodile Dundee is for depicting Australia. ;)
[21:29] <snap-l> hah
[21:29] <bkerensa> heh
[21:29] <snap-l> iirc, most of that stuff is staged, at best.
[21:30] <bkerensa> I thought Crocodile Dundee just depicted what happens with Aussies come to America? :)
[21:30] <bkerensa> when*
[21:30] <snap-l> Same difference. ;)
[21:30]  * popey flinches
[21:41] <AlanBell> bkerensa: maybe ask the professor to mail the list/come on IRC
[21:44] <jcastro> jono: after today's team call there's nothing I really need to discuss, unless you'd like to have me do some things prepared before the rally
[21:45] <jcastro> well, nothing work related.
[21:45] <jcastro> We do need to discuss the new Metallica EP
[21:47] <snap-l> the two songs left off of Death Magnetic?
[21:47] <jcastro> 4
[21:47] <bkerensa> jcastro: Have bitesize opps been updated?
[21:47] <bkerensa> :D
[21:47] <jcastro> bkerensa: which ones?
[21:47] <snap-l> Because frankly from what I've heard, they tossed the weat out, and pucked through the chaff
[21:48] <jcastro> meh, I like it
[21:48] <snap-l> I mean for Death Magnetic
[21:48] <jcastro> I know what you meant
[21:48] <jcastro> heh
[21:48] <snap-l> Those songs should have been on that album
[21:48] <jcastro> one song, at least is good enough to be on the album instead of that Unforgiven thing
[21:48] <snap-l> Christ yes.
[21:49] <snap-l> I'm not sure how much coke you'd need to be to think Unforgiven was worthy of the album time
[21:49] <jcastro> Hate Train has a nice middle rocking riff
[21:49] <snap-l> But I think the unit will be called "Lars"
[21:49] <snap-l> as in "it would take one Lars of Coke to think Unforgiven is a worthwhile song"
[21:50] <jcastro> I like DM
[21:50] <snap-l> I like Judas Kiss
[21:50] <jcastro> if you hate it then put lulu on.
[21:50] <jcastro> then you will think it's amazing
[21:50] <snap-l> Oh HELL no
[21:50] <snap-l> I've heard stories
[21:50] <snap-l> seen blog posts
[21:50] <jcastro> I heard the one on the radio
[21:50] <jcastro> man, I literally wanted to kill myself
[21:50] <snap-l> I don't need to hear what a trainwreck sounds like to know I don't want to be a part of it.
[21:51] <bkerensa> jcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Bitesize/Opportunities <-- is that upto date?
[21:51] <jcastro> oh dude
[21:51] <jcastro> nice catch
[21:51] <jcastro> no
[21:51] <jcastro> it needs to be rerun on the source list.
[21:51] <jcastro> mhall119: ^
[21:52] <jcastro> mhall119: this is an area that we looked at but never had time to flesh out
[21:52] <jcastro> might be worth thinking about again
[21:52] <jcastro> snap-l: I like the beginning riff in judas kiss
[21:54] <jcastro> snap-l: do you have "hate train" handy?
[21:54] <jono> jcastro, sorry, I have been so slammed, let's talk tomorrow
[21:54] <jcastro> jono: nod
[21:54] <jcastro> jono: about work or metal?
[21:54]  * jcastro snickers
[21:54] <jono> lol
[21:54] <jono> both
[21:54] <snap-l> jcastro: I don't have it handy, but I'm at work so I don't have easy access to it.
[21:54] <jcastro> snap-l: ping me when you get home, and then go to 4:20 in
[21:54]  * snap-l is in an office now because Canonical doesn't love me. ;(
[21:55] <snap-l> (sniff)
[21:55] <jcastro> snap-l: it's ok, I love you
[21:55] <snap-l> jcastro: I love you too, man
[22:19] <jono> mhall119, can we have a quick call?
[22:51] <mhall119> jono: Im out right now, will be soon
[22:57] <jono> mhall119, tomorrow is fine, I mailed you
[22:57] <jono> I have a call in a few mins
[23:01]  * bkerensa wonders what Canonical has up its sleeve for CES :)
[23:08] <mhall119> bkerensa: arms
[23:08] <mhall119> what else wouldyou have up your sleeves?
[23:12] <maco> whats a CES?
[23:14] <mhall119> Consumer Electronics Show
[23:22] <maco> ah
[23:22] <maco> i got stuck on S. was guessing Symposium
[23:22] <maco> also, while waiting for a build to finish... http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BSVqZ_9k8cU/Se6jfKFHoCI/AAAAAAAAAFc/jeCePpLNGys/s1600-h/doncha.jpg *giggle*
[23:23] <pleia2> maco: http://blog.canonical.com/2012/01/03/canonical-at-ces-las-vegas-10th-13th-january/
[23:24] <maco> oh wait i can TOTALLY see a use for this on IRC! http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BSVqZ_9k8cU/SMrlnFhwtMI/AAAAAAAAABc/ZQrgIp-xITQ/s1600-h/aveloc.jpg
[23:24] <maco> they dont even make electronics though
[23:24] <maco> *shrug*