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| zenith | my touchpad is not detected by the kernel during boot, & i need to use the i8042.reset parameter for it to be detected... how should i go about finding out the cause of the problem ? I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 with all updates including proposed. | 08:58 |
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| smb | zenith, First (if you have not already), you should create a bug report by running "ubuntu-bug linux". Then I think it will help to gather debugging output of the controller. There is a i8042.debug option I believe. If you gather dmesg output in both (with and without i8042.reset in parallel) | 09:04 |
| smb | I found it helpful to have a second machine to ssh from there because otherwise every keypress or mouse move adds more debugging output | 09:05 |
| zenith | where/how should the i8042.debug option be used? | 09:07 |
| smb | Same as the reset on the kernel arguments list | 09:07 |
| zenith | oh | 09:07 |
| zenith | actually i have subimitted some reports on the bug LP#190283, but i think i made a mistake coz the original bug report was for Intrepid ! (I'm SiddhantSaraf in the bug comments btw) | 09:11 |
| smb | bug 190283 | 09:12 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 190283 in linux "my lenovo y500 touchpad and keyboard do not work" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190283 | 09:12 |
| zenith | i even reopened the old bug ... was it a mistake? should i have filed a new bug against Oneiric ? | 09:12 |
| smb | Hm, is your machine a lenovo y500 | 09:13 |
| zenith | yup | 09:13 |
| zenith | actually its touch not being detected has been a very old issue, Ubuntu forums are full of the issue | 09:13 |
| smb | Usually it is better to have a new report if either the hardware or the symptoms are not exactly the same. Its always possible to mark them duplicate later. | 09:13 |
| zenith | *touchpad | 09:13 |
| zenith | ok, i think i will file a new bug, after i use the i8042.debug option | 09:15 |
| smb | Can happen. Also the problem often is that things can change by bios updates... | 09:15 |
| smb | There is already a section in the driver which potentially adds the reset for certain vendors / machines automatically | 09:16 |
| smb | But having more debug data will definitely help arguing the case | 09:16 |
| smb | And at least the subject line of the old report seems to indicate that the keyboard had not worked either | 09:17 |
| smb | which I assume it does for you... | 09:17 |
| zenith | oops, forgot to mention... the keyboard is another issue.. | 09:17 |
| zenith | its a bit insteresting... | 09:18 |
| smb | Ah I see. Its erratic | 09:19 |
| zenith | on the login screen, where my keyboard and touchpad both don't work, using a USB mouse if i select 'suspend', then i can bring the computer out of suspen using any key on the keyboard !! & after that thekeyboard works (though the touchpad still doesn't) | 09:19 |
| zenith | *suspend | 09:20 |
| smb | And with i8042.reset both works? | 09:20 |
| zenith | yeah | 09:20 |
| zenith | in the output of 'cat /proc/bus/input/devices' the keyboard appears last (when i use the suspend trick), with 'Handlers=sysrq kbd event8' while with i8042.reset it'Handlers=sysrq kbd event4', so definitely the keyboard is detected on resuming from suspend | 09:25 |
| smb | Ok, at least that sounds like adding that machine to the exception table would make sense. On the other hand, but I surely have not followed this in any forums, that bug report at least did not seem to attract many other reporters. So when before creating a new bug, I would check on the Lenovo site that you got the latest BIOS (just to be sure). Maybe you have already | 09:25 |
| zenith | ok, i will check... | 09:26 |
| zenith | be right back | 09:26 |
| smb | I would suspect there is a kind of reset when suspending and resuming. But probably not as complete as when using the reset argument | 09:26 |
| jibel | bjf, could you refresh http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-mgr-p-tracking-bugs.html and http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/kernel-bugs/reports/rls-p-tracking-bugs.html please ? | 11:43 |
| * ppisati is hungry... | 12:17 | |
| * smb too | 12:25 | |
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| * ogasawara back in 20 | 15:37 | |
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| bjf | jibel, i'll look into it | 16:00 |
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| * ppisati -> disappears for a bit... | 16:21 | |
| bjf | jibel, the reports are fixed up | 16:43 |
| diwic | What am I doing wrong if I'm getting this error: | 16:53 |
| diwic | "II: Checking modules for generic...previous or current modules file missing!" | 16:54 |
| jibel | bjf, thanks | 16:56 |
| bjf | diwic, where are you doing your build ? | 16:59 |
| diwic | bjf, from git clone ...ubuntu-precise | 16:59 |
| diwic | bjf, with a new entry to debian.master/changelog, and some patches on top | 17:00 |
| bjf | diwic, are you using one of our build resources or your own local system ? | 17:01 |
| diwic | bjf, local system, just installed precise on a machine here, and building from there | 17:03 |
| diwic | so both target and host is precise | 17:03 |
| tgardner | diwic, did you verify you could build _before_ you started hacking ? | 17:04 |
| diwic | tgardner, nope | 17:04 |
| bjf | diwic, i was asking if you were using tangerine so that i could look at your sandbox | 17:06 |
| bjf | diwic, or one of the other build systems | 17:06 |
| diwic | bjf, I'm building on my laptop right here | 17:06 |
| bjf | ugh | 17:06 |
| ogra_ | isnt he just missing the ignore files ? | 17:06 |
| bjf | diwic, how long does it take to do a build on your laptop ? | 17:08 |
| diwic | bjf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/792869/ | 17:08 |
| tgardner | ogra_, possibly, but unless he's twiddling config options I wouldn't expect to have a module go missing. | 17:08 |
| ogra_ | it says modules "file" missing | 17:09 |
| bjf | diwic, our build resources are there for fast building and you should have access | 17:09 |
| diwic | tgardner, to be fair, one of the patches adds a new config option (and, I assume, turns it on by default) | 17:09 |
| ogra_ | which i ususally get on manual builods if i dont touch the ignore file | 17:09 |
| tgardner | bjf, I think he's mucked about with the changelog and did not start a new release, e.g., didn't move the ABI files forward | 17:09 |
| ogra_ | but you know your system better, i only build kernels once a year or so :) | 17:09 |
| bjf | tgardner: yes, that's what i'm guessing as well | 17:10 |
| tgardner | bjf, don't we have an RTFM in the wiki somewhere about version bumping ? | 17:10 |
| bjf | tgardner: looking | 17:11 |
| diwic | tgardner, I added a version entry 3.2.0-7.14~jackdection, old version was 3.2.0-7.13 | 17:11 |
| bjf | diwic, that's what caused your problem | 17:11 |
| diwic | bjf, what version number do you suggest | 17:12 |
| bjf | diwic, if you had not bumped the build number you'd have been ok (probably) | 17:12 |
| tgardner | diwic, you can likely get by with just adding '~jackdetection' to the existing changelog entry. | 17:12 |
| diwic | tgardner, or +jackdetection if I want it to supersede? Otherwise the changelog would be in the wrong order...? | 17:12 |
| tgardner | diwic, right | 17:12 |
| diwic | which possibly something else will complain about | 17:12 |
| bjf | diwic, the other things your could do are to rename the debian.master/abi/3.2.0-7.13 to debian.master/abi/3.2.0-7.14 -or- add the "ignore" files so the checking is skipped | 17:13 |
| bjf | tgardner: yes, that's what i'm guessing as well | 17:15 |
| bjf | diwic, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelMaintenance#Overriding_ABI_check_failures | 17:15 |
| diwic | bjf, tgardner, ogra_, thanks for helping, I'll start a new build named 3.2.0-7.13+jackdetection, AND add ignore ABI checks, just to be sure :-) | 17:16 |
| bjf | diwic, and i'd recomend moving your build to a fast build resource | 17:16 |
| diwic | bjf, btw, the inspiration for using 7.14~jackdetection was taken from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBisection (section "Give this test a version number"). Is there something subtle I'm not seeing, or is that wiki page wrong? | 17:17 |
| bjf | diwic, looking | 17:17 |
| bjf | diwic, yes, that assumes some knowledge not explained on that page (but which we just sort of explained to you above) | 17:19 |
| ppisati | herton: about the M/dove kernel, i erraneously pasted the lucid url | 17:20 |
| ppisati | herton: now i corrected it, hope you didn't start with the packaging | 17:20 |
| herton | ppisati, yep, saw that, I used the right one when building the package | 17:20 |
| herton | I saw you pushed the rebase to the maverick branch | 17:20 |
| herton | *maverick repo | 17:20 |
| ppisati | ah ok | 17:21 |
| diwic | bjf, a stupid question, am I supposed to do "fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic skipabi=true"? | 17:25 |
| bjf | diwic, one sec, there is another skip that you can put on the command line (skipmodules=true maybe) | 17:25 |
| apw | it may be singular, need to check | 17:26 |
| bjf | diwic, apw is correct, it is singular "skipmodule=true" | 17:26 |
| diwic | bjf, adding both skipabi and skipmodule made the build proceed, thanks | 17:29 |
| diwic | bjf, for the record, do you have a wiki page for getting started with the tangerine build resources? | 17:29 |
| diwic | bjf, I tend to use it so seldom (dkms is faster and sufficient for most things) I forget it between times | 17:30 |
| diwic | bjf, got the link from vanhoof, thanks | 17:31 |
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| bjf | diwic, np | 17:32 |
| bjf | jjohansen: be sure and pack ear plugs (you've been warned) | 17:35 |
| jjohansen | bjf: ? | 17:35 |
| * smb assumes the roomie list went out | 17:35 | |
| * vanhoof thinks of manjo | 17:36 | |
| manjo | ? | 17:36 |
| vanhoof | lulz | 17:36 |
| bjf | jjohansen: my snoring is bad from what the wife is saying | 17:36 |
| manjo | vanhoof, you looking for a roomie ? | 17:36 |
| vanhoof | manjo: not you! :) | 17:37 |
| manjo | heh | 17:37 |
| vanhoof | believe i'm rooming w/ jk | 17:37 |
| jjohansen | bjf: heh, np. I wasn't planning on sleeping anyways | 17:37 |
| manjo | wonder who my victim is this time | 17:37 |
| bjf | jjohansen: right, should have known | 17:37 |
| vanhoof | manjo: none listed for you | 17:37 |
| manjo | wohoo | 17:38 |
| apw | i don't know if it is good or bad to always be the dogleg | 17:38 |
| * vanhoof googles dogleg | 17:39 | |
| apw | vanhoof, doubt its in there: when you have 5 people at a table and you are the one without someone opposite you, you are the dogleg | 17:39 |
| smb | 5th wheel on the car? | 17:40 |
| vanhoof | apw: ah | 17:40 |
| apw | heh, the 5th wheel is something else alllll together | 17:40 |
| vanhoof | apw: third wheel? | 17:40 |
| diwic | and the new kernel boots! with the new jack detection interface \o/ | 17:41 |
| vanhoof | diwic: nice :) | 17:41 |
| smb | apw, It is deemed a bit useless, though depending on whether you think of the steering or reserve wheel its probably more useful than the dogleg. :) | 17:42 |
| apw | yeah a different feeling to teh word, dogleg in this context is "will be a bit left out on the end there" | 17:42 |
| apw | and 5th wheel is "mostly we can do without them" | 17:42 |
| apw | now of course it would be common to put your "5th wheel" on the "dogleg" when seating them :) | 17:43 |
| bjf | woohoo! just found 3500 Forint | 17:43 |
| apw | 2 beers | 17:43 |
| smb | maybe | 17:43 |
| * smb stumbles over some Korunas... Damn, wrong place... | 17:46 | |
| * apw finds 10K forint, can anyone remember how many to the pound there are | 17:48 | |
| herton | only 1260 forint here, I guess I'll be thirsty :) | 17:48 |
| smb | apw, Mr Google will know | 17:48 |
| apw | 25 quid | 17:48 |
| apw | smb, was a large beer 800 ? | 17:49 |
| smb | hmm... thought 600... but who knows what changes they made | 17:49 |
| apw | yeah, and how much we annoy them, so about 12 large beers, thats pretty good, i might be able to stand you a drink :) | 17:50 |
| smb | apw, Seemed to have stashed some 30K of them... Should be enough for the first night... :-P | 17:52 |
| apw | smb, you are set for the week :) | 17:52 |
| bjf | apw, my 3500 are work $14 | 17:52 |
| bjf | s/work/worth/ | 17:53 |
| apw | bjf, good job you reminded me, i'd have probabally left them at home | 17:55 |
| arges | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/736226 | 17:59 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 736226 in linux "bonding inside a bridge does not work when using arp monitoring" [Medium,Confirmed] | 17:59 |
| * tgardner -> lunch | 19:06 | |
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