| ShawnR__ | hello | 00:39 |
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| ShawnR__ | anyone here have luck with installing nvidia optimus drivers in 11.10? i'm only running on intel right now, can't seem to figure it out | 00:40 |
| ShawnR__ | or is optimus still not supported? | 00:42 |
| govatent | I don't think it's supported yet. | 00:46 |
| govatent | I heard they are working on it. | 00:46 |
| govatent | But I don't know 100 percent. I sat in on a session about it at UDS. | 00:46 |
| govatent | I was told to avoid optimus for now. Can you set it to nvidia only in the bios? | 00:47 |
| ShawnR__ | i haven't checked that in bios, i'll take a look and see | 00:49 |
| ShawnR__ | i was really excited about this laptop, but i thought the issue was hot switching, not NOT being able to use the nvidia at all :/ | 00:49 |
| ShawnR__ | would be nicer than the built in intel video | 00:49 |
| ShawnR__ | this laptop is great in windows, but the elantech touchpad is super senative and not configurable much (elantech mousepads are just about as supported as optimus) | 00:50 |
| ShawnR__ | that's a /fail on my end... but it was too nice of a price on the laptop to pass up | 00:50 |
| govatent | I think you can set it for nvidia only. you just lose the nice power savings from the intel card. | 00:55 |
| ShawnR__ | nope :( | 00:55 |
| ShawnR__ | not on this one | 00:55 |
| ShawnR__ | i might be on asus's website right now looking for a bios update though... lol | 00:56 |
| govatent | oh i saw it on a thinkpad i was working with | 00:56 |
| ShawnR__ | this bios is really limited in features :( | 00:56 |
| govatent | I just found out what a grave mistake I made with my mac. they seem to have a power problem. I feel like such an idiot right now. | 00:56 |
| ShawnR__ | i was expecting a LOT more from ASUS | 00:56 |
| ShawnR__ | well, the grave mistake was thinking mac would be cool | 00:56 |
| govatent | I was not going for cool. | 00:57 |
| govatent | i was going for i hope it wont fall apart like my last laptop did | 00:57 |
| govatent | :P | 00:57 |
| ShawnR__ | lol | 00:57 |
| ShawnR__ | which one was your last one? | 00:57 |
| govatent | a 5 year old toshiba. Mobo was one amazing board. - the crummy gpu. but the casing was utter rubbish | 00:58 |
| ShawnR__ | oh, well, i've never been pleased with toshiba | 00:58 |
| ShawnR__ | their P4 HT (desktop CPU in a laptop) blue cases were the worst design for heat and a really bad CPU for a bad thermal design | 00:58 |
| govatent | the mac has been good so far. Owned it about a month. waiting for 12.04 or gonna run gentoo. but that aside, I just noticed a few mins ago there is a power problem when under a heavy load | 00:59 |
| ShawnR__ | i also couldn't stand the ones for a while where toshiba put the ~ key left of the space bar and Del was where the context menu button is and the windows key was up where delete was | 00:59 |
| govatent | yea i remember that | 00:59 |
| ShawnR__ | hmm | 00:59 |
| ShawnR__ | i really just don't like their keys and touchpads | 00:59 |
| ShawnR__ | if not for that, i was very envious of the macbook air | 01:00 |
| govatent | i just got my dad an asus for the holidays. and i agree. very limited bios options. although great ubuntu machine | 01:00 |
| ShawnR__ | if i wanted a smaller screen, that newer asus super thin one is REALLY nice | 01:00 |
| govatent | but this is just an i5 and intel only gpu | 01:00 |
| ShawnR__ | yeah, i5 myself here, it is a company laptop and couldn't justify to myself getting an i7 (my father's company, don't want to take advantage) | 01:01 |
| govatent | I really wanted a system76. but there was no way it was in my budget. next laptop for sure will be a 76. or whatever the major linux laptop maker will be at the time. | 01:01 |
| ShawnR__ | never heard of system76 | 01:01 |
| govatent | oh man look em up | 01:01 |
| ShawnR__ | built with HW in mind specifically for linux? | 01:01 |
| govatent | they make ubuntu computers | 01:01 |
| govatent | ill link you | 01:01 |
| ShawnR__ | nice | 01:01 |
| ShawnR__ | thanks | 01:01 |
| govatent | http://www.system76.com/ | 01:01 |
| mhall119 | govatent: zareason is the other big Ubuntu maker | 01:01 |
| govatent | I kind of wanna return the mac now cause of this power issue. but not sure i can cause of the discount i got. | 01:02 |
| govatent | it works fine. i just don't know if this will be a major issue down the road | 01:02 |
| govatent | and thanks for that info mhall119 | 01:02 |
| govatent | ShawnR__: the reason i did not get the system76 was lack of financing options. | 01:03 |
| govatent | I am glad i did not use my credit card for it. they have been killing me with interest now. | 01:04 |
| ShawnR__ | i was about to say without the winders license, should be cheaper and def. cheaper than a mac | 01:04 |
| ShawnR__ | i needed a windows license in case i needed windows for work (crossing my fingers i never will) | 01:04 |
| govatent | I got 25% off the mac price. | 01:04 |
| govatent | and one year to pay it off | 01:04 |
| ShawnR__ | nice | 01:04 |
| govatent | i have a friend at apple | 01:05 |
| ShawnR__ | so you only paid $1500? lol (just kidding.... kinda) | 01:05 |
| govatent | :P more like 1430 lmao | 01:05 |
| ShawnR__ | wow, i was close :) | 01:05 |
| govatent | lenovo was near the same price but 6 months to pay it off | 01:05 |
| ShawnR__ | you coulda got a new credit card and did a balance transfer with a year no interest and got a system76 and for cheaper :P | 01:06 |
| govatent | damit!!! | 01:06 |
| ShawnR__ | sure that would be a lot of work, but worth it, eh? | 01:06 |
| govatent | very much so ! | 01:06 |
| ShawnR__ | i mean, not that i've vever done that before or anything | 01:06 |
| govatent | i think that would work. | 01:06 |
| govatent | i had not thought of that | 01:07 |
| ShawnR__ | yeah, so long as your credit is good, find a good "Balance transfer" deal | 01:07 |
| ShawnR__ | buy it on your old CC, then balance transfer to the new one | 01:07 |
| govatent | yea. school loans have not kicked into my name yet... :P | 01:07 |
| govatent | Wish I had thought of that option before i got the mac. | 01:09 |
| govatent | well can't have any regrets now | 01:09 |
| balloons | govatent, what kind of mac you get? | 01:10 |
| govatent | I got the current gen 15" with quad i7 2.2 with 4 gb of ram. i swapped the hdd for a 7200 rpm. the problem i am having seems to be on most models though. | 01:11 |
| govatent | I think it might have something to do with osx sucking though :P | 01:11 |
| ShawnR__ | lol | 01:12 |
| balloons | i have the early 2011 model, 17 inch | 01:12 |
| balloons | i'm guessing you got the hw updated one | 01:13 |
| balloons | some folks have done a ton of work on making them work nicely in ubuntu.. | 01:13 |
| balloons | including things like efi booting and using vga switcheroo | 01:13 |
| balloons | just not for the faint of heart. I'm guessing Precise+1 will have very nice support for everything. Precise does everything out of the box on mine now, minus the fancy efi botting | 01:14 |
| govatent | I already tried the alpha | 01:15 |
| govatent | so far its amazing! | 01:15 |
| govatent | not sure where we will be with the dual gpu. but i don't mind using just the amd one | 01:15 |
| balloons | it was not so cool on natty | 01:15 |
| govatent | i actually got 11.10 running | 01:16 |
| govatent | its not tough | 01:16 |
| govatent | but unlike in 12.04 you must do a lot of things by hand | 01:16 |
| govatent | much so for the wifi | 01:16 |
| balloons | well, if your adventerous at this point you can efi boot and set intel only graphics (on mine anyway), thereby matching the mac os x battery life | 01:16 |
| govatent | i did the efi boot. i just got a black screen. it was having issues with the dual gpu stuff. | 01:17 |
| govatent | i guess | 01:17 |
| govatent | with mbr based boot everything worked fine. just no access to the intel gpu | 01:18 |
| govatent | i think dual gpus is just something that is being worked on even outside of the mac setups | 01:18 |
| balloons | govatent, yes your right.. not much support anywhere as of yet | 01:19 |
| govatent | have you had issues with your laptop showing not charging when under heavy load? | 01:19 |
| balloons | no, no power issues I'm aware of | 01:19 |
| govatent | like right now mine is not charging. the mag light is green. but my battery is dead. if i kill skype it will charge just fine. | 01:19 |
| balloons | it's been my primary work pc for some time | 01:20 |
| balloons | well.. since I got it in March :-) | 01:20 |
| govatent | ill have to ring apple about it i guess. don't look forward to that call | 01:20 |
| balloons | this under mac? | 01:20 |
| govatent | ? | 01:20 |
| govatent | oh yea | 01:21 |
| govatent | sorry i did not get what you were asking | 01:21 |
| govatent | i won't be using ubuntu till 12.04 | 01:21 |
| govatent | or at least like a beta build | 01:22 |
| balloons | gotcha.. so yea, let that wonderful apple quality care take care of the not charging issue | 01:22 |
| govatent | https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2787732?start=0&tstart=0 | 01:22 |
| balloons | if it's new and not working, they should fix you up ;-) | 01:22 |
| govatent | it just started charging randomly | 01:23 |
| balloons | wow.. that's pretty neat haha | 01:23 |
| govatent | you should be aware of the issue in case you run into problems | 01:23 |
| govatent | balloons: ping | 01:24 |
| balloons | sorry | 01:30 |
| balloons | well in my case, the laptop isn't mine | 01:30 |
| balloons | and I've hated it :-) But i don't have to use it anymore after tomorrow, so i'm in luck on that front | 01:31 |
| govatent | ah | 01:32 |
| balloons | i find the mac keyboards lack of essential buttons annoying and the mac os lack of sometimes basic features like window management aggravating also | 01:33 |
| balloons | but as usual, the build quality is bar none.. hardware is always touch noch from apple.. | 01:34 |
| govatent | lmao | 01:36 |
| govatent | brb dinner calls. | 01:42 |
| govatent | gonna log off for dinner to let the machine cool off. be back in a bit | 01:42 |
| govatent_ | test | 02:25 |
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| mhall119 | dang it's cold out | 12:52 |
| svwilliams | 22 in gville | 12:54 |
| svwilliams | I saw the high in miami was upper 60's which is cold for them | 12:54 |
| zoopster | it's too cold | 12:59 |
| zoopster | and it's only 34 here | 12:59 |
| mhall119 | 30 here | 13:01 |
| mhall119 | well, 33 now that the sun is up | 13:01 |
| zoopster | it was 38 closer to the water at dawn...love that influence! | 13:01 |
| zoopster | still to cold no matter how you look at it | 13:02 |
| zoopster | or too cold even | 13:02 |
| svwilliams | lol | 13:06 |
| maxolasersquad | I was looking to get the new year started right by biking to work. | 14:09 |
| maxolasersquad | That's not happening. | 14:09 |
| maxolasersquad | I have my pride, but my sanity also. | 14:09 |
| maxolasersquad | It was supposed to get down to the teens last night. | 14:12 |
| maxolasersquad | And my crazy cat insisted on spending the night outdoors. | 14:14 |
| svwilliams | my dog seems to find it invigorating he goes from napping to crazy after a quick trip outdoors. I don't think he would go in side if it were for the fact that we live in a condo and I'm not staying outside with thim | 14:18 |
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