[01:13]  * wolfger_ pokes the channel
[01:15]  * rick_h__ stabs back
[01:25] <wolfger_> hey rick_h__, where's the "report a bug" link on LP? I always have a devil of a time finding it
[01:26] <wolfger_> You would think it would be in plain sight on the bugs.launchpad.net page
[01:32] <rick_h__> wolfger_: it's on the ride side
[01:32] <rick_h__> always in the column on the right
[01:33] <rick_h__> wolfger_: the trick is that bugs.lp.net is just a landing page, you have to submit the bug to a specific project
[01:33] <rick_h__> so always include the /xxxx
[01:33] <rick_h__> so bugs.lp.net/launchpad or bugs.lp.net/sendoff etc
[01:34] <wolfger_> got it. Thanks!
[01:35] <rick_h__> np
[01:39] <wolfger_> Woot. First bug filed in I don't know how long.
[01:39] <wolfger_> Wait.... am I actually happy I just got bit by a bug? :-p
[01:39] <tjagoda> The only bugs I file come from that auto popup which does all the work for me.
[01:39] <snap-l> Evening
[01:39] <wolfger_> tjagoda <-- lazy
[01:40] <tjagoda> I feel undereducated at manually reporting bugs
[01:40] <tjagoda> Like when I used to have to manually pick the package?  Oh god.
[01:47] <wolfger_> so if anybody cares to install python-wxglade and comment on the bug... It segfaults on me.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wxglade/+bug/911554
[01:52] <tjagoda> I am very glad I did not participate in alphas before I had cable
[02:12] <wolfger_> lulz -> http://goo.gl/nrT7b
[02:13] <wolfger_> tl;dr "swap is slow, so I'm going to use my RAM as a swap partition"
[02:13] <tjagoda> I know a guy who uses a ramdisk to host a minecraft server.
[02:18] <wolfger_> now that makes sense
[02:26] <jrwren> lol
[03:29] <brousch> snap-l: you geekered me
[03:43] <snap-l> brousch: Eh?
[03:43] <snap-l> Not sure what that means.
[03:44] <snap-l> Actually, using RAM for tmp makes sense
[03:44] <snap-l> but not for swap. That's just asking for trouble.
[03:44] <brousch> the kubuntu CDs you sent are 32bit, but they don't say that anywhere
[03:45] <brousch> not really your fault ;)
[03:45] <brousch> so i have to download 64bit and reinstall
[03:45] <snap-l> I'd assume that anything on CD is 32 bit, since that's the recommended variant.
[03:45] <snap-l> brousch: Yeah, I had to download the 64 bit alternate install for my work machine
[03:46] <snap-l> Creating a USB stick via a USB stick is, entertaining.
[03:46] <jrwren> why is 32bit recommended?
[03:46] <snap-l> jrwren: Honestly, I have no idea
[03:46] <snap-l> I think they figure it's backward-compatible, so if someone tries it in their 2006 era machine, it'll just work.
[03:47] <snap-l> instead of giving some cryptic incompatibilitiy message.
[03:47] <brousch> snap-l: so how was the first day?
[03:48] <snap-l> brousch: Had a good lunch, filled out some paperwork, and reinstalled Alternate Ubuntu too many times to try to sort out software RAID.
[03:48] <brousch> heh
[03:48] <snap-l> tomorrow should be more fine-tuning
[03:48] <snap-l> Having to get acclimated to an office again
[03:49] <jjesse__> is that code for you forgot to wear pants to work today?
[03:49] <snap-l> Speaking of which, going to hit the hay.
[03:49] <snap-l> jjesse__: No, fortunately I have pants
[03:49] <snap-l> just haven't worn them in a long while. ;)
[03:49] <snap-l> Hopefully I'll be able to ssh into my home machine, or I'll be rather upset.
[03:52] <jjesse> you figured out your key problem right?
[03:53] <snap-l> jjesse: Yeah, the problem was I created the pub/private key here
[03:53] <snap-l> and not on the destination machine
[03:53] <snap-l> I think it's sorted now
[03:54] <snap-l> I'll find out tomorrow for certain, though. ;)
[03:55] <snap-l> Anywho, g'night, everyone. See you in the morning. :)
[04:07] <jrwren> snap-l: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/sys/2746924098.html
[04:08] <jrwren> snap-l: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/sys/2759268167.html
[04:08] <jrwren> snap-l: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/sys/2759280299.html
[07:26] <wolfger_> jrwren: 32-bit is recommended because it works better. Case in point: my wifi now works flawlessly (after reformatting a fubar 64-bit install and putting 32-bit in)
[12:08] <Wolfger> Good morning party people
[12:19] <snap-l> jrwren: The only thing in that lot that I'd be interested in is the Percom Happy Drive for the Atari. ;)
[12:20] <snap-l> Bah, that's no the Happy drive. but still...
[12:26] <rick_h__>  morning
[12:27] <snap-l> Morning
[12:34] <Wolfger> Happy Drive?
[12:35] <Wolfger> Do you have to bend your 5.25" floppy to get it inserted into the smiley-face slot?
[13:00] <nullspace> morning all
[13:00] <rick_h__> party party
[13:00] <snap-l> Wolfger: No, not really. ;)
[13:00] <snap-l> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Computers
[13:15] <tjagoda> howdy
[13:16] <rick_h__> tjagoda: multiple days in a row?
[13:25] <tjagoda> Consider it a belated Christmas present!
[13:37] <snap-l> huzzah!
[13:45] <Wolfger> His Blackberry must be on the fritz ;-)
[13:46] <rick_h__> oh man, we owe tjagoda so much blackberry fun
[13:46] <snap-l> Speaking of BB, apparently the Playbook is on clearance.
[13:46] <snap-l> $400 off
[13:46] <rick_h__> back taxes so to say
[13:46] <snap-l> That almost puts it within give-a-damn range.
[13:49] <nullspace> you can apperently run some android apps on it
[13:49] <tjagoda> Not yet you cant
[13:49] <tjagoda> =(
[13:49] <nullspace> but seeing as it lacks an SD reader it doesn't exist to me
[13:49] <tjagoda> That patch has been in limbo for like 8000 years
[13:49] <nullspace> tjagoda: if you root it I heard you could
[13:49] <Wolfger> Somebody still uses SD?
[13:50] <tjagoda> I actually love the Blackberry OS on it
[13:50] <nullspace> yeah my SLR does
[13:50] <tjagoda> what it does, it does very well
[13:50] <Wolfger> nullspace: that's what USB cables are for...
[13:50] <tjagoda> they've just been really really slow at patching more features into it
[13:51] <nullspace> Wolfger: I have this image of your house looking like the borg took it over
[13:51] <nullspace> I hates cables and dongles
[13:51] <snap-l> nullspace: I hate latency. :)
[13:52] <snap-l> That said, if I can make something wireless without too much trouble, I will
[13:52] <snap-l> (too much trouble == mice, computers in other rooms with no obvious drops, etc)
[13:52] <nullspace> not sure how taking a sd card out of a slr and dropping it into a tablet has anything to latency
[13:52] <Wolfger> nullspace: I try to get everything on one cable. Micro-USB. So far my work cell, personal cell, and Kindle all use it. And I rarely need more than one device plugged in at a time.
[13:52] <Wolfger> when I get a new camera, I'll look for a camera that takes micro USB too.
[13:53] <tjagoda> All my blackberry stuff uses Mini USB
[13:53] <brousch> i just dropbox things to my phone and nookcolor
[13:53] <snap-l> nullspace: Um, why would you want to take photos from a SLR and put them in a tablet?
[13:53] <tjagoda> I live on Mini USB
[13:53] <Wolfger> One cable to rule them all, one cable to bind them
[13:53] <nullspace> not sure why anyone would want to plug their camera into their laptop
[13:53] <snap-l> nullspace: Because it's their primary machine? :)
[13:54] <snap-l> not everyone lives on beige boxes
[13:54] <tjagoda> the planet revolves around my lap/desktop
[13:54] <nullspace> snap-l: to see if I need to retake them, the lcd on a slr is tiny and someit's hard to tell if it's in focus
[13:54] <snap-l> or some painted version thereof.
[13:54] <nullspace> snap-l: take the card out of the camera, saves battery
[13:54] <snap-l> nullspace: I'd trust a laptop screen over a tablet screen
[13:54] <nullspace> I'm poor and
[13:54] <nullspace> I still have a 5lb laptop
[13:55] <brousch> how about one of those eyefi things?
[13:55] <Wolfger> snap-l: even a tablet with Retina (R) Display? ;-)
[13:55] <rick_h__> they still make mini usb?
[13:55] <snap-l> Ye gads, that's hardly ideal. :)
[13:55] <tjagoda> I want to punch people in the face here when they complain about the weight of their 17 inch laptops
[13:55] <tjagoda> NO CRAP DUDE
[13:55] <nullspace> I trust a RAID 5 over a single drive but I'm not carrying one around
[13:55] <snap-l> Wolfger: Especially a tablet with retina display.
[13:56] <nullspace> snap-l: you have your ideals and I have mine
[13:56] <snap-l> mine are better. :)
[13:56] <nullspace> also there is no built in sd port in my laptop
[13:56] <snap-l> nullspace: Ouch, what monstrosity are you carrying?
[13:57] <nullspace> 1024x768 vs 1440x900 not really that big of a diff there
[13:57] <snap-l> Even my lowly Thinkpad X120E has a SD slot
[13:57] <nullspace> snap-l: yeah I have a mortage to pay so I still have my t61
[13:58] <nullspace> a laptop upgrade is likely not going to happen even if this dies
[13:58] <snap-l> I could loan you a Sandisk SD USB reader.
[13:58] <snap-l> They're pretty handy, IMHO
[13:58] <nullspace> I have usb SD readers
[13:58] <nullspace> it's just another thing to carry
[13:59] <snap-l> Yeah, I guess.
[13:59] <tjagoda> I just carry a mobile darkroom with me when I need to take pictures.
[14:00] <nullspace> tjagoda: still using film eh?
[14:01] <rick_h__> http://t.co/qN3XS9k7www.youtube.com/watch?v=ginQNMiRu2w is really cool
[14:01] <rick_h__> <3 the music part since I'm a Zimmer fan and have the soundtrack
[14:01] <nullspace> what's this video of?
[14:02] <rick_h__> the creator of inception about the movie @Google
[14:04] <tjagoda> I just spent $600 on college textbooks.
[14:05] <tjagoda> =(
[14:05] <rick_h__> ouch, I remember those days
[14:05] <Wolfger> ugh
[14:05] <brousch> tjagoda: what are you studying?
[14:06] <tjagoda> Four classes
[14:06] <snap-l> tjagoda: Ouch.
[14:06] <tjagoda> Its the semester of hell
[14:07] <tjagoda> Java programming, Calculus for Business Applications, Management & Leadership, and Organizational Psychology
[14:07] <tjagoda> I dread the calculus.
[14:07] <snap-l> I had no end of troubl ewith Calculus. Have you taken Physics?
[14:08] <rick_h__> calc wasn't bad, calc 2 threw me for a bit though
[14:08] <snap-l> yeah, I squeaked by in Calc 2
[14:08] <Wolfger> calc sucked
[14:09] <Wolfger> but when I took Technical Calculus, I think I got a B+ or an A... It was much easier to grasp
[14:09] <brousch> calc is a big reason i have an anthropology degree
[14:09] <snap-l> brousch: hah
[14:10] <nullspace> calc2 is weed out class IIRC
[14:10] <nullspace> calc 3 was justa  bitch, hyperbolic sine integration
[14:12] <tjagoda> I have no use to this maths.
[14:12] <tjagoda> Hopefully its like my last math class with a lazy professor that gives A's on everything
[14:12] <rick_h__> meh, even my wife did calc I for non-match majors. And she can't do math
[14:13] <rick_h__> I mean...doing 48/6 is like watching a 386 do factorials
[14:15] <tjagoda> http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1290628
[14:15] <tjagoda> That is encouraging
[14:16] <tjagoda> I like when I get professors used to teaching the lower newbie maths
[14:16] <tjagoda> because it means they're conditioned to be incredibly forgiving
[14:17] <tjagoda> "Great teacher. you have to be a complete retard to fail his class."
[14:17] <tjagoda> CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.
[14:23] <nullspace> nice, I think I've manged to totally hose my audio
[14:24] <nullspace> fing pulse audio
[14:30] <tjagoda> My audio likes to crackle in ubuntu.
[14:30] <tjagoda> It doesn't wake up from powersave correctly.
[14:37] <nullspace> I thought you had a system76
[14:39] <brousch> my audio is perfect on this latitude d630
[14:40] <tjagoda> Even on the system76 it sometimes happens
[14:42] <nullspace> so who is running 12.04 beta?
[14:42] <nullspace> I'm disenchanted with 11.10
[14:43] <jcastro> me
[14:43] <jcastro> but it's not much different from 11.10
[14:44] <brousch> 11.10 r0x
[14:45] <brousch> kubuntu
[14:45] <brousch> except for the crazy ram usage
[14:45] <tjagoda> Nobody, because 12.04 beta doesn't exist ;D
[14:45] <tjagoda> Alpha 1 ftw
[14:46] <tjagoda> But yeah, 11.10 is not happytimes
[14:46] <tjagoda> Hard locks my system at random intervals.
[14:47] <nullspace> I'm running xfce on the main box, and gnome/unity on the lappy. I've given unity a second chance and I am not a fan
[14:47] <tjagoda> I want to rewind to gnome 2.2
[14:48] <tjagoda> Not so much a fan of this unified user interface trend
[14:48] <nullspace> nah xfce with nautilius
[14:48] <jcastro> hah
[14:48] <tjagoda> Gnome 2.2 made sense to me because of my years of errant conditioning
[14:50] <brousch> i set up my kde panels just like gnome 2. it's a beautiful thing
[14:50] <tjagoda> Although unity seems like its improving, I'll give it that
[14:50] <nullspace> though I am intriuged by the work on features with pulse audio that were removed in 11.10
[14:50] <tjagoda> Definitely better than the terror that is Gnome 3
[14:51] <tjagoda> I just miss my top panel with always there buttons and the old school windows style trays
[14:51] <brousch> my problem with xfce is that it would not suspend and coming out of hibernate took like 5 minutes
[14:51] <tjagoda> This is probably where I shout get off my lawn
[14:53] <tjagoda> I hate you brousch.
[14:53] <tjagoda> Looking at KDE.
[14:53] <brousch> why for?
[14:54] <tjagoda> Do you have any idea how long I've maintained an anti-KDE diplomatic dispute with Wolfger?! =P
[14:55] <nullspace> jcastro: any idea if there are going to bring back the pulse audio remote server feature?
[14:55] <nullspace> I know it was horrible but curious if they see any hope
[14:55] <jcastro> what's the remote server feature?
[14:55] <brousch> tjagoda: i also used to consider it a jumbled mess
[14:55] <nullspace> basically one machine could pipe audio to another machine
[14:55] <jcastro> oh
[14:56] <jcastro> that's there
[14:56] <jcastro> are you sure you're not missing a package?
[14:56] <jcastro> I just set that up the other day
[14:56] <nullspace> really?
[14:56] <jcastro> yeah
[14:56] <nullspace> what doc did you follow?
[14:56] <jcastro> is the paprefs installed
[14:56] <jcastro> but greyed out?
[14:56] <nullspace> yeah
[14:56] <jcastro> oh dude
[14:56] <jcastro> one sec
[14:56] <jcastro> I just found out why
[14:57] <brousch> tjagoda: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/snapshot10.png
[14:57] <nullspace> though I made some changes to un grey out the features
[14:57] <jcastro> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/paprefs/+bug/829051
[14:57] <jcastro> it's a  symlink
[14:58] <nullspace> yeah I did that
[14:58] <jcastro> it was fixed
[14:58] <jcastro> and then broke again
[14:58] <jcastro> and then no body changed the bug back to "it's broken"
[14:58] <jcastro> #24 is what worked for me
[14:58] <tjagoda> brousch: that is beauty
[14:59] <nullspace> but I can't install padevchooser
[14:59] <tjagoda> I like the bottom panel.
[14:59] <tjagoda> A bottom panel like that is what I miss most from unity.
[15:00] <nullspace> how am I suppose to select a sound server
[15:01] <tjagoda> brousch: what KDE version is that?
[15:01] <jcastro> in the sound settings
[15:01] <jcastro> the server just shows up as an output device.
[15:01] <brousch> tjagoda: whatever is in 11.10. i spent about 30 mins adding panels and moving stuff where it should be
[15:02] <tjagoda> I wonder if it will hardlock and crash less on the kubuntu side of the pond.
[15:03] <nullspace> jcastro: will it only work in 12.04 ?
[15:03] <jcastro> I tested it in 12.04 but it's the same as in 11.10
[15:03] <jcastro> that dropdown has been there for like 2 years
[15:03] <nullspace> hmm nothing popping up on the output
[15:04] <jcastro> ping me later and I'll bring my laptop out
[15:04] <jcastro> gotta get this stuff finished today
[15:09] <brousch> tjagoda: i have had one crash in the last two or three weeks i've been running this. my big problem is that i keep running out of ram despite having 4GB. firefox and chrome seem to use more ram under kde.
[15:11] <tjagoda> I think I have 6GB in the lappy at home
[15:12] <tjagoda> I like that swtiching between desktop environments is as (theoretically) simple as apt-get
[15:16] <brousch> i currently have unity, gnome shell, kubuntu, and xubuntu on here
[15:17] <Wolfger> tjagoda: welcome to the K side :-)
[15:18] <Wolfger> brousch: You should make your KDE config accessible. I like your setup.
[15:19] <brousch> how do i do that?
[15:20] <tjagoda> You have to use force lightning, and gain dark side points
[15:20] <tjagoda> =(
[15:20] <brousch> is that some game reference?
[15:20] <Wolfger> brousch: I dunno. I was hoping you'd know
[15:21] <brousch> :P
[15:21] <Wolfger> Maybe I'll look around in ~/.kde tonight and see if I can figure out what file you need to send me :-)
[15:30] <nullspace> I got pax11publish to push audio to the server
[15:32] <Wolfger> Huh... downvoting on AskUbuntu decreases your own reputation?
[15:35] <snap-l> It can
[15:38] <Wolfger> I kinda like that, actually. Make people think before they bash.
[15:49] <nullspace> sounds like it's recompressing to audio and lowering the bitrate...gah
[15:51] <krondor> brousch:  makes sense that chrome and FF would use more ram, GTK libraries.
[15:57] <brousch> but i have pidgin, chrome, and FF running. wouldn't they share libraries?
[16:03] <krondor> they should share, but do you see anything odd in FF when you do about:memory ?
[16:04] <brousch> it is all odd since i have never looked at it
[16:05] <brousch> vsize is 1.4GB
[16:06] <krondor> what's resident?
[16:07] <krondor> vsize includes shared memory maps
[16:07] <krondor> resident is what only FF is using
[16:08] <brousch> 366MB
[16:08] <brousch> i have half a dozen pages open
[16:09] <krondor> doesn't sound bad, I'm at 450MB with 15 tabs in Unity at the moment.
[16:10] <krondor> chrome://memory-redirect will give you similar details
[16:11] <krondor> You'll want to note the Memory: Private column.
[16:12] <brousch> 862MB
[16:12] <brousch> geez, gmail is using 212MB by itself
[16:12] <brousch> google reader 172
[16:14] <tjagoda> brousch: Opinions on new gmail interface?
[16:14] <brousch> i don't mind it in compact mode
[16:17] <krondor> yeah some websites are heavier hitters than others by far
[16:17] <krondor> I kind of like the new gmail interface, but only in compact mode.. too much whitespace otherwise
[16:25] <snap-l> What's the current wisdom for setting up dual monitors for nvidia cards?
[16:25] <snap-l> ie: do I save an xorg.conf file or not?
[16:25] <rick_h__> don't they have a fancy app for that?
[16:27] <krondor> nvidia-settings apps
[16:28] <krondor> I usually end up hand editing because my laptop gpu sucks and is super picky on docking/undocking with dual monitor.
[16:30] <snap-l> They do, but if I save the xorg.conf file, it gets pissy with me.
[16:34] <Wolfger> New Gmail is larger than old Gmail, even in "compact mode". Too much wasted space.
[16:37] <tjagoda> agree
[16:41] <tjagoda> http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/246826/as_2012_dawns_mint_leads_the_list_of_top_linux_distros.html
[16:41] <tjagoda> Didn't know Mint has passed up Ubuntu in the top distrowatch
[16:41] <tjagoda> ...who do we have to kill?
[16:42] <rick_h__> tjagoda: heh, so it was found that it was scripted
[16:42] <rick_h__> I believe
[16:42] <rick_h__> it's purely based on hits to the page and that's easy to automate
[16:42] <tjagoda> ahhhh
[16:42] <rick_h__> not that I'm biased or anything :)
[16:46]  * Wolfger plots to script up a Gentoo victory
[16:48] <tjagoda> I plan to make a blank page the top linux distro.
[16:48] <tjagoda> =P
[16:50] <widox_> krondor: do you have an automated way to switch monitor configs when docking/undocking?
[16:50] <widox_> I currently use the nvidia tool, but I hvae to re-do everything I un/dock
[16:50] <widox_> evertime*
[16:56] <nullspace> widox: any luck with xrandr?
[16:58] <widox> nullspace: negative, doesn't want to work with nvidia
[16:58] <nullspace> sucks
[16:59] <tjagoda> I think krondor said he just manually edits files
[17:09] <snap-l> gah, having trouble with Google Chrome's launcher.
[17:29] <rick_h__> snap-l: chrome's launcher?
[17:29] <snap-l> Unity
[17:30] <snap-l> Doesn't seem to want to fire up Chrome
[17:30] <rick_h__> oh
[17:32] <Wolfger> does it launch from cli ok?
[17:33] <snap-l> Yeah, it's fine otherwise.
[17:36] <Wolfger> Diagnosis: Unity sucks. :-)
[17:36] <Wolfger> or possibly you just need to fix the properties on the launcher
[17:37] <snap-l> Yeah, it's possible.
[17:37] <Wolfger> Solution: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[17:37] <snap-l> sudo apt-get autoremove wolfger && sudo apt-get install syncophant
[17:45] <Wolfger> sudo apt-get purge work-day && sudo apt-get install nap-time
[17:48] <snap-l> works for me.
[17:49] <snap-l> I wish there was a cheat code for unlimited wealth like The Sims. :)
[17:49] <Wolfger> ++
[17:50] <Wolfger> was just discussing winning lotto tickets with a buddy of mine who works at Warren Truck. We both agreed that telling anybody you won is just a bad idea...
[17:50] <Wolfger> I said "all anybody will know is that I no longer work for Chrysler. I'll be a freelance programmer, or maybe open a brewpub."
[17:51] <Wolfger> and of course by "freelance programmer", I really mean "unemployed and tinkering on FOSS projects"
[17:54] <rick_h__> crazy cool http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/938
[17:55] <snap-l> Very nice
[17:55] <snap-l> I hope this is a first in a very long line of exceedingly well-tested releases.
[17:56] <rick_h__> http://www.singleservecoffee.com/archives/039337.php kind of cool
[17:56] <rick_h__> I need to get some for me, the wife is using them all the time
[17:57] <krondor> widox:  nope unfortuantely
[17:58]  * krondor can't type
[18:01] <Wolfger> Good stuff from Shuttleworth. Of course, when he talks about quality like that, it just seems so obvious that I can only think "why hasn't it always been like this?"
[18:01] <Wolfger> The weather report is a nifty idea... https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/
[18:01] <snap-l> Wolfger: Well, likely because the tools finally matured
[18:03] <Wolfger> coffee joulies? Hmm... not sure about that idea.
[18:04] <rick_h__> Wolfger: you ever setup a CI environment and write tests for all your code?
[18:04] <rick_h__> and then do it for a ton of projects? that's why it's not been done before
[18:05] <jcastro> rick_h__: I got a fitbit
[18:05] <jcastro> get one
[18:05] <jcastro> I need a "stop being fat jorge" buddy
[18:05] <rick_h__> jcastro: yea? I was looking at them but wasn't sure on the linux story
[18:05] <rick_h__> I wanted to get some sort of gps/heart rate thingy for workouts
[18:06] <rick_h__> jcastro: they don't work wireless right?
[18:06] <Wolfger> rick_h__: Nope, I haven't. I'm just saying, the way Shuttleworth talks about it, it sounds like a no-brainer. I'm sure it's much more difficult to do than he makes it sound.
[18:06] <jcastro> Wolfger: it's never been like that because no one has done it before to the scale we are
[18:06] <jcastro> rick_h__: it does, to the wireless base
[18:06] <jcastro> rick_h__: only gotcha is win/osx for the base, but jono's in contact with them and they say they're working on the linux support
[18:07] <jcastro> Wolfger: and it's also brutally expensive
[18:07] <rick_h__> yea, I don't have anything non-linux these days
[18:07] <rick_h__> jcastro: but will watch eagerly for some way to get the data off in linux
[18:08] <jcastro> nod
[18:08] <jcastro> they have an API and stuff
[18:08] <rick_h__> nice, yea. I need something
[18:08] <jcastro> I am going to mail them and see if they would even just provide the info we need
[18:08] <jcastro> and hell, we can ask someone to write the driver
[18:09] <snap-l> jcastro: If they get Linux support, I'll gladly get one
[18:09] <snap-l> I need some motivation to get rid of my Buddah belly.
[18:12] <nullspace> the threat of pain seems to work for most
[18:12] <snap-l> Well, yes, that is a motivation
[18:13] <Wolfger> :-)
[18:13] <Wolfger> I own that t-shirt...
[18:13] <Wolfger> (dude being chased by T-Rex, caption: "EXERCISE: Some motivation required"
[18:37] <Wolfger> fitbit costs $100? It looks like a glorified pedometer...
[18:38] <rick_h__> Wolfger: with internet upload and pretty charts :)
[18:39] <nullspace> bah I'm sure my phone has a app the does the same thing
[18:40] <rick_h__> and did you phone cost > $100?
[18:40] <nullspace> it's already bought
[18:41] <nullspace> oh hey free fitbit app
[18:48] <Wolfger> The 80's have ruined my brain. Here we are in 2012, and still every time somebody says something about "pushing it", I get Salt'n'Peppa singing in my head.
[19:00] <Wolfger> snap-l: http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/04/the-black-keys-nickelback-helping-to-kill-rock/?hpt=hp_bn4
[19:12] <nullspace> nice
[19:19] <krondor> cleaning my home office yesterday, I think I found 2 full CD stacks of burned linux isos.  Ubuntu 5.10, RedHat 7, ugh.
[19:19] <krondor> reminds me I should install from usb key more often (though in earlier days that wasn't so simple)
[19:19] <rick_h__> usb sticks ftw
[19:28] <nullspace> krondor: iodd ftw
[19:33] <krondor> nullspace, iodd looks neat.  Hadn't seen this.
[19:35] <nullspace> there is a member of i3 or former member that is a regional sales distributor
[19:36] <nullspace> you can skip on shipping costs
[19:36] <nullspace> I think it's melstav
[19:43] <tjagoda> woot
[19:43] <tjagoda> my Oreilly loot
[19:52] <Wolfger> didn't you buy it yesterday?
[19:53] <tjagoda> Yes
[19:53] <Wolfger> Why did it take so long to receive e-books?
[19:53] <Wolfger> Don't tell me you're a tree murderer...
[19:53] <Wolfger> ;-)
[19:55] <tjagoda> I murder trees for Oreilly
[19:55] <tjagoda> Hate tech ebooks
[20:03] <snap-l> You just haven't found the right ebook reader. :)
[20:04] <rick_h__> DX!
[20:05] <rick_h__> spent time reading my social network data book in pdf form on there last night
[20:06] <tjagoda> might buy the kindle for its eInk display
[20:06] <tjagoda> but I have numerous other things I would rather spend money on at present
[20:06] <tjagoda> What I hate passionately however is the retarded BN Nook PC program for BN College Textbooks
[20:06] <tjagoda> eTextbooks*
[20:07] <tjagoda> omg so much DRM
[20:07] <tjagoda> Lost access to my course books for 4 days in a Barnes and Noble server outage
[20:07] <tjagoda> So much nerd rage
[20:14] <snap-l> tjagoda: Yeah, frankly it's not worth it
[20:14] <snap-l> Textbooks = hardcopy
[20:15] <snap-l> at least you can sell them back for beer money when you're through
[20:15] <snap-l> and frankly, most text books are shit.
[20:16] <tjagoda> yep
[20:19] <tjagoda> afkhome
[20:57] <krondor> gmail compact script to improve whitespace in the new theme (per the scrollback) http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/117234