[00:00] <evilkid> hi, how can i make my wifi work in virtual machine?
[00:00] <pythonirc101> ikonia: but how come ssh actually goes thru -- but scp does not? how can I fix it?
[00:01] <willwork4foo> pythonirc101: ssh dozen
[00:01] <willwork4foo> Argh
[00:01] <willwork4foo> Ignore my last, stupid keyboard
[00:02] <pythonirc101> this looks right -- just changed my virtual network card -- http://pbin.be/show/348/
[00:02] <willwork4foo> Ssh doesn't have a long and sustained data throughput stream. Scp does
[00:02] <willwork4foo> pythonirc101: that looks better.
[00:02] <pythonirc101> scp still stalls
[00:03] <willwork4foo> Odd.
[00:04] <pythonirc101> strace still hanging at read(7,..) --http://pbin.be/show/349/
[00:04] <pythonirc101> it used to work before I did a do-release-upgrade on my box
[00:06] <wolfric> where are the configs stored that are used with gconf-editor?
[00:06] <_jason> wolfric: why?
[00:07] <escott> wolfric, 11.10 switch to dconf storage
[00:07] <tomvolek> anybody has run IE under ubuntu ?
[00:07] <escott> wolfric, so its .config/dconf
[00:08] <wolfric> escott: i'm on 11.04
[00:08] <wolfric> _jason: curious, also it'd be handy to edit via ssh
[00:08] <escott> wolfric, then its ~/.gconf
[00:08] <_jason> wolfric: use gconftool-2 to edit via ssh
[00:09] <_jason> wolfric: those files are not intended to be edited manually
[00:10] <wolfric> _jason: i thought gconf had to be run as root
[00:10] <wolfric> is it configured on a per-user basis?
[00:10] <wolfric> gconf-editor*
[00:11] <abstrakt> so it seems my sound has stopped working
[00:11] <_jason> wolfric: I don't understand what you are asking.
[00:11] <abstrakt> rhythmbox doesn't give me any sound anymore
[00:11] <wolfric> well if it's global config then ~/.gconf doesn't make sense does it
[00:11] <abstrakt> i've been using the windows half of my dual boot for a while now and it's been a while since I booted to Ubuntu
[00:11] <abstrakt> rhythmbox definitely used to work, but now all I can hear is an occasional "click" in my headphones when I try to play something in rhythmbox and that's about it
[00:11] <_jason> wolfric: you should read: http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/gconf-1.html.en I think it will clear up how gconf works for you
[00:12] <abstrakt> it's as if something is happening with the sound system, but... not what I want
[00:12] <abstrakt> which is... well... music
[00:12] <abstrakt> i know this worked at one point but I don't remember when
[00:13] <abstrakt> i'm in XFCE, and when I click the little speaker icon in my system tray area i get the mixer
[00:13] <abstrakt> all levels are up, nothing is muted
[00:13] <abstrakt> my headphones are definitely plugged in to the headphone jack - i've double checked this numerous times
[00:13] <abstrakt> and i haven't unplugged them since I used windows last and windows plays my music - so I know that the headphones are plugged in to the correct jack
[00:16] <Xfce-user> Guys
[00:16] <Xfce-user> How are you all? :D
[00:16] <Xfce-user> I need some help login
[00:16] <Xfce-user> I had Ubuntu Oneiric Oncelot
[00:16] <Xfce-user> and installed Xubuntu-desktop
[00:17] <Xfce-user> I deleted Gnome according to the instructions at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce
[00:17] <Xfce-user> and, now I can't login anymore
[00:18] <Xfce-user> Any ideas?
[00:18] <Xfce-user> Perhaps I should install ubuntu-desktop..  but, I do not have GUI. How do I do it?
[00:18] <Bunie> huh?
[00:19] <Bunie> use recovery
[00:19] <Bunie> sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get gnome
[00:19] <Bunie> (i think? someone correct me)
[00:19] <abstrakt> how can I trouble shoot this?
[00:19] <Bunie> I'm a noob, but thats what i'd do.
[00:20] <Xfce-user> How do I do recovery. Sorry, I am kind of a "noob" :P
[00:20] <Bunie> at the login screen you should be able to select different things, Gnome, Xfce, etc.
[00:20] <Bunie> if all else fails, CTRL+ALT+F1
[00:20] <Xfce-user> LightDM is not loading.
[00:20] <Xfce-user> And, I tried Ctrl+ALt+F1. It does not respond.
[00:21] <Bunie> it should bring you to a logon screen
[00:21] <leeg> hello i was redirected here from the debian channel, and i have a question that i would really appreciate an answer if you could
[00:22] <leeg> is anyone here
[00:22] <Xfce-user> :) Is there another way to troubleshoot or do recovery? I am currently running a live CD.
[00:22] <Bunie> Live CD...? you should be on your install
[00:22] <Bunie> CTRL+ALT+F1, then login, then sudo apt-get gnome
[00:23] <Bunie> am i right? why is no one else talking lol
[00:23] <leeg> you are
[00:23] <leeg> lol
[00:23] <leeg> can someone please help me i have a question
[00:23] <Xfce-user> I will try it again. Last time, accessing the virtual konsole was not possible.
[00:23] <Bunie> Whatcha need leeg? i'm the noobie of the room but it seems everyone decided to go afk at once
[00:23] <Xfce-user> Hi leeg.
[00:23] <leeg> whenever i put my laptop on sleep, it wont rewake, and it just stays black and i have to reboot it
[00:23] <leeg> hi kfce
[00:23] <Xfce-user> Maybe they are sleeping. ><:
[00:23] <Bunie> Have to reboot it? does it try to wake up? or does the power light continue to pulsate?
[00:24] <leeg> the power light is on, as if everything should be working, but the screen is black
[00:24] <acerimmer> join #ffmpeg
[00:24] <Bunie> could be a video problem.
[00:24] <leeg> alright
[00:24] <Bunie> ffmpeg? whats that got to do with it lol
[00:24] <leeg> what is ffmpeg, so i know what the people are like that im dealing with
[00:24] <Bunie> ffmpeg is a video encoder/decoder.
[00:25] <leeg> are there people there?
[00:25] <Bunie> yeah but i dont see how its even partially relevant to your issue :P
[00:25] <leeg> so should i go or stay
[00:25] <Bunie> i dont know if he was even speaking to you :S
[00:25] <Bunie> acerimmer: Why would he/we go to ffmpeg?
[00:26] <leeg> lawl
[00:26] <mint> is anyne that cen help me???
[00:26] <leeg> we can try
[00:26] <Bunie> Maybe, mint. :P
[00:26] <Bunie> the elder gods have abandoned us
[00:27] <leeg> pretty much
[00:27] <Oer> !nomodeset
[00:27] <Xfce-user> Resting.. taking a cup of coffe... watching a movie. Could be a number of things ><:
[00:28] <mint> why my pc says to me vesa grph drivers??
[00:28] <Xfce-user> Anyway, I will be back. I hope I can fix my problem.
[00:28] <Bunie> mint: is that saying "Additional Drivers"?
[00:29] <mint> no when i run compiz-check says vesa drivers your compiz wont run normaly
[00:30] <Bunie> Oh. i have no idea on that subject. hopefully someone else can answer you :P
[00:30] <Bunie> speaking of no idea, whats the linux equiv of ipconfig? (i need to see my IP :P)
[00:30] <MonkeyDust> ifconfig
[00:30] <cgfree> hi there, I am hoping to find some assistance with installing my DigiPro WP806 Tablet with Ubuntu 10.10 if anyone is available to help
[00:30] <mint> Gathering information about your system...
[00:30] <mint>  Distribution:          Linux Mint 11
[00:30] <mint> http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_katya_lxde.php
[00:30] <mint>  Desktop environment:   Unknown
[00:30] <mint>  Graphics chip:         ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[00:30] <mint> /usr/bin/compiz-check: line 199: [: too many arguments
[00:30] <FloodBot1> mint: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:31] <aBound> Isn't this the wrong room to ask for Linux Mint users.
[00:31] <cgfree> hi there, I am hoping to find some assistance with installing my DigiPro WP806 Tablet with Ubuntu 10.10 if anyone is available to help
[00:31] <MonkeyDust> !repeat| cgfree
[00:31] <acidfrost> mint try #mint
[00:32] <cgfree> MonkeyDust, thanks
[00:33] <leeg> where are there so many people here
[00:33] <leeg> but noone is replying
[00:34] <dr_willis> leeg:  if someone dosent know the answer.. they done know.
[00:34] <leeg> haha i didnt mean it in a bad way at all
[00:34] <leeg> in fact i think its great that people are willing to help whenever you need it
[00:34] <[an]droid|kindle> There always are
[00:34] <mint> how can i change the window manager?? help plzz
[00:34] <leeg> but i mean, are they like afk or something
[00:35] <Bunie> mint: Install a new one? :S lol
[00:35] <mint> ive got lxde
[00:35] <dr_willis> mint:  select a differnt one at the login screen - is one way.
[00:35] <mint> mint
[00:35] <leeg> alright i gotta go, peace
[00:35] <dr_willis> or make a custome .xsession - for MINT help use the mint support channels -
[00:35] <Bunie> mint: At the login screen you should have an option to choose a different one
[00:36] <mint> compiz (core) - Error: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a window manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current window manager.
[00:36] <mint> why it tells e this
[00:36] <Bunie> are you on a seperate computer?
[00:37] <Bunie> from the one your talking about?
[00:37] <Bunie> you need to log out, and select a different one
[00:37] <dr_willis> mint:  becasue you need to normally use the replace option.. like it says.  'metacity --replace'
[00:37] <mint> no
[00:37] <urlin2u> !tab | mint
[00:37] <[an]droid|kindle> Mint join #mint
[00:37] <[an]droid|kindle> This is a channel for ubuntu
[00:38] <mint> thnxx il try
[00:38] <cgfree> would  someone be able to assistance me with installing my DigiPro WP806 Tablet with Ubuntu 10.10 if anyone is available to help
[00:39] <mint> on the mint channel 2 howrs talking to someone called alonso and nobody hepld me :D
[00:39] <nightcracker_> hi everyone
[00:39] <Xfce-user> s
[00:39] <nightcracker_> I'm trying to set up a null sound driver on a server
[00:39] <Xfce-user> Hey guys
[00:39] <Xfce-user> I am back
[00:39] <nightcracker_> but so far not succeeding
[00:39] <Xfce-user> Problem not solved. I can't still access lightDM
[00:39] <Bunie> Xfce-user: Did you install Gnome as i suggested>
[00:39] <urlin2u> cgfree, I didn't see a single link on google for that pad and ubuntu or linux, as a matter of fact no documents were found.
[00:39] <nightcracker_> I tried setting up ALSA
[00:39] <Xfce-user> I can't acces any virtual konsole
[00:40] <nightcracker_> but I still get this weird error when running wine
[00:40] <nightcracker_> err:dmloader:IDirectMusicLoaderImpl_IDirectMusicLoader_SetObject : could not attach stream to file
[00:40] <Bunie> CTRL+ALT+F1 should always work :S
[00:40] <dr_willis> mint:  sounds like a good reason to not use mint.
[00:40] <Xfce-user> (Ctrl + ALt + F1) dosn't work.
[00:40] <Xfce-user> It just blinks and blinks... only showing the mouse cursor
[00:40] <Bunie> Xfce-user: if you cant do anything with your PC you may be better off doing a fresh install
[00:40] <Xfce-user> :(
[00:40] <Xfce-user> I have to try hard for this
[00:41] <dr_willis> ive seen teh consoles not work properly if the framebuffer, and X video drivers conflict. But i havent seen that issue in years.
[00:41] <mint> :D lol
[00:41] <Xfce-user> I have more than 300 GB worth of files
[00:41] <nightcracker_> would someone be nice enough the help me?
[00:41] <dr_willis> Xfce-user:  you may want to try booting to Text mode   or recovery mode.
[00:41] <dr_willis> 300gb of files... thats all>
[00:41] <Bunie> Ohhh! Yes Ubuntu has text mode :D
[00:42] <Xfce-user> Hi Dr.Wills
[00:42] <Xfce-user> how do I do that?
[00:42] <nightcracker_> anyone?
[00:42] <[an]droid|kindle> mint: well you're bound to get nothing accomplished there
[00:42] <dr_willis> recoverymode is mentioned on the grub menu.
[00:42] <dr_willis> !text
[00:42] <urlin2u> !patience | nightcracker_
[00:42] <Xfce-user> I did not learn how to access grub. (U/Xubuntu is the only OS in this laptop)
[00:43] <nightcracker_> oh sorry
[00:43] <Bunie> dr_willis: if his install is like mine, we dont see the grub menu. something about quiet splash?
[00:43] <dr_willis> tap the shift key as boots to show grub menu  if its hidden by defailt.
[00:43] <cgfree> urlin2u, I know.... it's sad, the only link ive found is about DigiPro with WizardPen and the instructions are very confusing
[00:43] <Bunie> rly?
[00:43] <Bunie> gonna restart to check this out ;D
[00:43] <mint> i've used ubuntu 10.10 before ind i liked it ! but problems with my net drivers
[00:44] <dr_willis> i always set grub to not be hidden.
[00:44] <Xfce-user> By the way, I also posted in Ubuntuforums. But, I did not receive help yet: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1903963
[00:44] <Xfce-user> Shift key? ok, got it
[00:44] <cgfree> urlin2u, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen is what Im referring to
[00:45] <Xfce-user> I will try it then. I will be back to inform you guys of my success or fails.
[00:45] <Bunie> My ubuntu doesnt have a text mode listed, only normal and recovery. and recovery doest activate my wireless
[00:45] <urlin2u> cgfree, is your model listed in the ones known to work?
[00:46] <jimi_> I just installed ubuntu netbook. how can i get gnome installed? i dont likethis weird window manager
[00:47] <dr_willis> You enter the 'text' option on the grub command line.
[00:47] <Bunie> Ubuntu netbook doesnt exist anymore, i dont think.
[00:47] <urlin2u> Xfce-user, did you run the correct distro from the psychocats site and was there any tweaking to get it to run?
[00:47] <cgfree> urlin2u, DigiPro 5.5×4” Graphics Tablet is listed, but I have a larger one... im not sure the exact dimensions but it's like 8x6
[00:47] <[an]droid|kindle> jimi_: sudo apt-get install gnome
[00:47] <dr_willis> jimi_:  exactly what did you install? what version of ubuntu?
[00:48] <Xfce-user> Hi Urlin2u. I followed the steps to remove gnome (pure xfce)
[00:48] <urlin2u> cgfree, I would look at their site if they have one for linux
[00:48] <jimi_> [an]droid|kindle, apt-get install gnome gives gnome: Depends: swfdec-mozilla but it is not going to be installed
[00:48] <Bunie> oh great, recovery mode broke my ubuntu Q~Q
[00:48] <Bunie> i blame you, dr_willis
[00:48] <Xfce-user> and then did an "sudo apt-get autoremove" since the terminal mentioned that they are MANY uneeded apps
[00:48] <urlin2u> Xfce-user, right but did you bother to make sure it was for your release?
[00:49] <Xfce-user> yep
[00:49] <Xfce-user> it was for Oneiric Oncelot
[00:49] <Bunie> dr_willis: i started recovery, and selected "drop to command line" where i only typed "sudo shutdown -r now". why is gnome now saying "could not update ICEauthority file /home/bunie/.ICEauthority"?
[00:49] <Levy> Hey all does anybody know how I can get my Unity panel back?
[00:50] <|Slacker|> how can I install nvidia driver on oneiric, the driver that comes with doesn't work properly I'd like to install the newest one from nvidia site
[00:50] <urlin2u> Levy, have you been messing with compiz?
[00:50] <Xfce-user> urlin2u and Bunie. Thank you for your help. I will now restart to try to access the recovery mode from grub.
[00:50] <Bunie> Levy: you may be logging into the wrong thingy. :P
[00:50] <Xfce-user> See you in a bit
[00:50] <Levy> urlin2u, I been messing with compiz to enable the desktop cube and it went to crap.
[00:50] <dr_willis> Bunie:  i would guess the owner of that file is incorrect. Seen many forum and askubuntu.com posts about that file.  move/rename/delete it. or change its owner perhaps.
[00:50] <[an]droid|kindle> jimi_: just searc in the ubuntu software centre
[00:50] <Bunie> Xfce-user: Good luck
[00:51] <Ben64> My laptop is on wireless, and refuses all communication unless it has recently initiated a connection
[00:51] <Levy> I tried to re-enable my Unity plugin for compiz and didn't fix anything I had to use gnome-shell.
[00:51] <urlin2u> Levy, run unity --reset then reboot, then find a web page on dealing with compiz.
[00:51] <Ben64> For example - I can't ping it from my desktop until I first ping my desktop from the laptop
[00:51] <NeedHelp> I have some problems with my radeon, how could i set my lvds scaler to something like "Right-Top" insted of center?
[00:52] <Levy> Damn things break easily. :P
[00:52] <Bunie> dr_willis: That file doesnt exist
[00:52] <Bunie> dr_willis: oh and now its working, k nvm thanks :D
[00:52] <|Slacker|> nevermind, google saved me
[00:52] <|Slacker|> :)
[00:53] <NeedHelp> but google didn't saved me
[00:53] <NeedHelp> :(
[00:53] <NeedHelp> anybody
[00:53] <EuroNerd> Does anyone here have experience setting up VPN servers?
[00:53] <NeedHelp> google...
[00:54] <NeedHelp> am out..
[00:55] <|Slacker|> alright....things are too easy on Ubuntu :p
[00:55] <melengo> lol
[00:57] <dr_willis> !vpn
[00:58] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, I know what VPN is and I know there are tons of tutorials on the web. I need some general advice on the usefulness (or lack thereof) of VPN servers.
[00:59] <dr_willis> thats a bit 'vague'
[01:00] <icat> Hey, can anyone tell me why you ship mencoder without libdv support?
[01:00] <icat> and what it would take to change that?
[01:00] <Pickleface_> hi im using linux 11.10 the old gnome theme, how do I set appointments and stuff on the calender ?
[01:00] <dr_willis> icat:  legal reasons most likely. and  you could try mencoder from the medibuntu repos. or compile your own, or find a ppa.
[01:00] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, well, for starters, does a VPN tunnel (from my laptop in a cafe to a VPN server on VPS) work with all ports and protocols. E.g. if the internet cafe blocks anything but port 80, will I be able to use FTP (on 21) thru my VPN?
[01:01] <cgfree> urlin2u, hey sorry to bother you, but do you know how i could check to see wether the linux os is recognizing that the tablet is plugged into the usb port?
[01:01] <EuroNerd> dr_willis, and I mean by default, cuz I have no doubt you can set up all kinds of weird stuff if you spend a week googling and asking on forums/irc.
[01:02] <urlin2u> cgfree, lsusb   I assume it is a usb plugin
[01:02] <Bunie> okay guys one more thing i need! X3 how do i run an exe thru mono using console? :P
[01:03] <icat> dr_willis, tried really hard in finding a ppa, but couldn't
[01:03] <urlin2u> cgfree, lol you said usb DOH.
[01:04] <Bunie> Nvm new question
[01:04] <dr_willis> icat:  medibuntu might have a version with more options.
[01:05] <dr_willis> !medibuntu
[01:05] <dr_willis> No idea what libdv is used for. so thats all i can suggest.
[01:05] <Bunie> im running a server that saved to Documents, but now im running it over tty1, it doesnt detect the save. Why?
[01:05] <cgfree> urlin2u, from what i see it is not recognized
[01:06] <cowslammer> when booting off the install cd, what do i press to geta boot menu?  i have to a modeset or it won't come up
[01:07] <urlin2u> cowslammer, tap shift and hit f6 at the menu
[01:07] <cgfree> urlin2u, would i have to have the driver installed before i connected the tablet for it to be recognized, or would it be recognized either way?
[01:08] <urlin2u> cgfree, not sure really....is there a driver?
[01:08] <cgfree> well for windows theres one
[01:08] <proeverigen> hi
[01:09] <urlin2u> cgfree, might work in wine, I'm just guessing here I know nothing about wine.
[01:10] <dr_willis> cowslammer:  tap the shift key like a spastic tapdancer.
[01:10] <cgfree> urlin2u, no problem thanks for your assistance anyhow
[01:10] <cgfree> im going to trail and error it...
[01:10] <urlin2u> cgfree, no problem. :D
[01:10] <cgfree> :D
[01:10] <urlin2u> dr_willis, that is a funny image.
[01:13] <dr_willis> a little tapdancing tux.
[01:14] <daev_> hi just a quick one... I've just installed a fresh Debian Squeeze and need to upgrade my kernel for better hardware support on my laptop. should i upgrade the kernel before installing things like proprietry video or wifi drivers?
[01:14] <alkafoo> daev_: yup
[01:14] <dr_willis> daev_:  and you may want to ask in #debian :)
[01:14] <daev_> oh trust me i have :]
[01:14] <daev_> sleepy lot ;]
[01:15] <daev_> thanks alkafoo i thought that might be the case. but someone made me paranoid saying i'd need to recompile my drivers after a kernel update
[01:15] <fhtagn> howdy!
[01:15] <alkafoo> daev_: compile no, install, possibly
[01:16] <alkafoo> fhtagn: hi
[01:16] <fhtagn> i found this neat extension for vlc: http://addons.videolan.org/content/show.php?content=141787
[01:16] <fhtagn> is there a prefered way to install it? i managed to place it in /usr/share/vlc/lua/extensions/ and it works perfectly
[01:16] <fhtagn> but is there a clean way of doing it? apt-get or something?
[01:17] <alkafoo> fhtagn: unless there's a place in ~/ you can put it, that's probably the best there is
[01:17] <alkafoo> maybe ~/.vlc/ or ~/.config/vlc/ something like that perhaps
[01:17] <fhtagn> there's is also a place in ~/.local/<something> yeah
[01:17] <daev_> ah so if updating the kernel i could be prepared for a few drivers to break and need reinstalling? np. one last thing mr. alkafoo (if you have any experience with debian) i've heard that 2.6.38 is better than *.39 is that true? :p
[01:17] <fhtagn> ok, i just wanted to know if the package manager could handle it, because i will eventually forget all the files i place around the computer =/
[01:18] <fhtagn> thank you
[01:18] <alkafoo> fhtagn: yes, but I wouldn't be surprised if nobody's made a package for it, so you'd have to do it yourself
[01:18] <alkafoo> that's what's good about things in ~/, you can forget them as long as you remember to backup ~/
[01:19] <alkafoo> daev_: I doubt it is on the whole, 39 being higher than 38
[01:19] <alkafoo> daev_: every now and then a kernel version and a particular driver will be incompatible, though
[01:19] <alkafoo> particular driver/version
[01:20] <daev_> now that is useful information! thankyou alkafoo and thankyou rypervenche. hope you get your scout badges for this ;]
[01:20] <daev_> bbl
[01:21] <Bunie> is it safe to be logged in Twice? (using the tty things)
[01:21] <fhtagn> Bunie: sure
[01:21] <alkafoo> why wouldn't it be
[01:21] <escott> Bunie, yes
[01:21] <Bunie> im new to Ubuntu/Linux so i had to ask
[01:21] <fhtagn> Bunie: you might worry that your 'history' will be different in each session, and i don't know how it merges it later
[01:21] <Pickleface_> hi im using linux 11.10 the old gnome theme, how do I set appointments and stuff on the calender ?
[01:21] <aBound> Bunie, Welcome to Ubuntu. :P
[01:21] <fhtagn> but there should be no problem at all.
[01:22] <Bunie> using a tty thing to run a server without having a window open, while still easily keeping track of it :P
[01:22] <Pickleface_> can anyone help me..
[01:22] <nightcracker_> I'm trying to set up a null sound card with alsa on an ubuntu server, but I fail horribly
[01:22] <aBound> I might downgrade back to 10.04 LTS let's just hope firefox don't crash. :P
[01:22] <nightcracker_> I only get Invalid card number.
[01:22] <nightcracker_> Usage: amixer <options> [command]
[01:23] <nightcracker_> when I try alsa-utils start
[01:23] <dr_willis> Bunie:  you man want to look into 'screen' and 'byobu' or 'tmux' for  more power ussage of the console :)
[01:23] <Argorok> Again: I've just installed Ubuntu 11.10 x86 on my desktop and when installation finishes and I restart the computer, after the grub menu my display get "no signal" message... Looks like some resolution that the native driver doesn't support or something like that. I tryed to set nomodeset on grub instead of quiet splash and didn't help... Can anyone help me to solve it? I can't even get terminals (ctrl+alt+f1) to install nvidia drivers (But live cd boots w
[01:24] <Argorok> To ficando puto já com essa porra
[01:24] <farout542> I am wanting to remote into my Ubuntu 10.04 machine from the internet.  How do I get my router forwarded to the computer I want to remote into?
[01:25] <Pickleface_> dr_willis: im using linux 11.10 the old gnome theme, how do I set appointments and stuff on the calender ?
[01:25] <DrKojiKobashiJr> Hi
[01:25] <escott> farout542, depends on the router. usually you go to http://192.168.0.1 (assuming that is the ip of your router) and forward the ssh port 22
[01:25] <alkafoo> Argorok: heh
[01:25] <dr_willis> Pickleface_:  no idea.  Im on a console/headless server 99% of the time these days.
[01:26] <aBound> Headless as in no gui? :P
[01:26] <Pickleface_> dr_willis: oh ok
[01:26] <DrKojiKobashiJr> hi
[01:26] <dr_willis> I can vnc or xdmcp. or ssh  in and get gui tools if needed.
[01:26] <Merther> Can anyone help with a problem I'm having with smbget?  Beyond -R is there a way to use smbget to download multiple files in the same location.  -R doesn't seem to be working as it's giving permissions errors.
[01:26] <dr_akira> Hi.
[01:26] <alkafoo> Argorok: your GRUB doesn't have another entry called recovery or rescue mode?
[01:27] <alkafoo> dr_akira: hi
[01:27] <farout542> escott:  I have a modem and the a wireless router.  Do I have to point the modem to the wireless router?
[01:27] <dr_akira> Hi. alkafoo
[01:27] <Argorok> alkafoo, have, but when I try to enter, it doesn't recognize my usb keyboard, then it stops at a fuchsia screen with some options and I can't navigate through them
[01:27] <dr_akira> Many people, here.
[01:27] <alkafoo> farout542: you tell the router a port to point to an IP
[01:28] <grape_> is there a puppy linux channel
[01:28] <alkafoo> Argorok: fuchsia, odd
[01:28] <dr_willis> grape_:  yes. #puppylinux perhaps.
[01:28] <alkafoo> grape_: probably, /msg alis list *puppy*
[01:28] <dr_willis> Puppy linux homepage i think mentions it
[01:28] <Argorok> alkafoo, let me see all options, I only remember the last: root console
[01:28] <alkafoo> Argorok: oh the framebuffer screen with the gray/red/blue ?
[01:29] <alkafoo> root console could be useful, if it works at all
[01:29] <Argorok> alkafoo, but I don't have a ps/2 keyboard here
[01:29] <Argorok> alkafoo, no, let me take a pic
[01:29] <alkafoo> USB should work, too, unless your hardware/BIOS is weird
[01:30] <farout542> alkafoo:  So leave modem as is and do the forwarding on my wireless router?
[01:30] <dr_willis> The Console can use 'framebuffer' support to have differnt/higher res and other modes.
[01:31] <Pickleface_> how does anyone not know..omg :P
[01:33] <Argorok> alkafoo, this keyboard works with all systems I've tryed on my desktop... But I don't know why it doesnt work at this screen... Uploading it
[01:33] <alkafoo> farout542: well there are a few scenarios
[01:33] <Merther> I'm using smbget --username=myusername --password=mypassword -R smb://server/shared/folder.  It fails with Permissions denied.  I can use the same command without -R to get files in "folder" but can't get "folder" itself.
[01:34] <farout542> alkafoo:  I was afraid of that.
[01:34] <alkafoo> farout542: you probably don't have a static IP, so you'll have to know the outside IP assigned to your LAN each time
[01:34] <alkafoo> farout542: once you know that, it might be as simple as using that IP with ssh/VNC/whatever
[01:34] <alkafoo> farout542: or you might have to tell your router to forward from a given port to a specific local (LAN only) IP
[01:35] <alkafoo> some people use dyndns/no-ip to get around the first part
[01:35] <farout542> alkafoo:  Ok I will do a little research and see.  Thanks for pointing me in right direction!!!
[01:35] <alkafoo> there's a #networking around here somewhere
[01:35] <obelus> If I'm getting errors like "SQUASHFS error: Unable to read page, block 22e77ce7, size 6a82" is this likely an error with my ISO or the USB stick I put it on?
[01:36] <farout542> good to know.  I am new to IRC.  Nice tool it is.
[01:36] <wad> join #networking
[01:36] <alkafoo> obelus: or the USB port, could be any
[01:36] <farout542> will do.  I appreciate the support.
[01:36] <Argorok> alkafoo, http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/4407/fotolg.jpg
[01:37] <alkafoo> Argorok: neat
[01:37] <alkafoo> Argorok: but your keyboard doesn't work?
[01:37] <obelus> Ugh... trying to get this installed, don't even have a bootloader atm.
[01:37] <alkafoo> obelus: try another port
[01:37] <obelus> I'll try the other port and see if it helps
[01:38] <RiXtEr-Home> Hey all, how can I get a list of all currently installed packages?
[01:38] <aBound> RiXtEr-Home, Using 11.10 or 10.04?
[01:38] <RiXtEr-Home> 10.04
[01:38] <Duker> I keep trying to undo a .tar.gz and its returning 'tar (child): file.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[01:38] <RiXtEr-Home> LTS if it matters.
[01:39] <RiXtEr-Home> Duker, tar -xzf ?
[01:39] <iceroot> RiXtEr-Home: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[01:39] <iceroot> !clone | RiXtEr-Home
[01:39] <aBound> RiXtEr-Home, Looks like iceroot solved your problem.
[01:39] <aBound> :P
[01:40] <RiXtEr-Home> nice
[01:40] <aBound> I would of said use Synaptic package manager.
[01:40] <angela-> hi i have installed icecast2 but it must bysomware i searst int every system maps off ubuntu i cant fint it do enyone  ware i can fint it?
[01:40] <pythonirc101> how do I stop my shell to be transparent?
[01:40] <RiXtEr-Home> aBound, iceroot, Better than I originally thought, I want to push a list of packages to another (my backup) server
[01:41] <Pickleface_>  im using linux 11.10 the old gnome theme, how do I set appointments and stuff on the calender ?
[01:42] <dr_willis> does the calander even DO apointments and stuff.. :)
[01:42] <Argorok> alkafoo, no... I was trying now, changing keyboard from usb to another usb... Tryed all of them, even front panel usb... Nothing works
[01:42] <aBound> I guess I gotta wait till 12.04 LTS comes out.
[01:42] <dr_willis> angela-:  you mean you are looking for an 'icon' for it in themenus?
[01:43] <angela-> no for the file
[01:43] <alkafoo> Argorok: k, well, a live OS is just as good, really
[01:43] <dr_willis> !info icast2
[01:43] <dejavou42> hmmm. I can't get ffmpeg to encode an avi movie to an mp4... any thoughts?
[01:43] <dr_willis> !info icecast2
[01:43] <angela-> the config file off icecast
[01:43] <angela-> 2
[01:43] <obelus> Seems to be working now, already past where it was freezing before.
[01:43] <dr_willis> angela-:  look in the package manager to see what confiog files and docs/guides it installed.
[01:43] <dejavou42> I'm getting a invalid pixel aspect ratio limit is 255/255
[01:44] <angela-> ok
[01:44] <dr_willis> dejavou42:  i use winff to convert to mp4 all the time. its a front end to ffmpeg.
[01:44] <dejavou42> dr_willis. I've got it too, but the preset that I want isn't there
[01:44] <pythonirc101> how do I get this stupid transparency in my terminal to go away?
[01:44] <dr_willis> dejavou42:  there are more presets at the winff homepage/forums.
[01:45] <dr_willis> dejavou42:  the tool arista has a smiler feature set. and ability to download more presets.
[01:45] <Argorok> alkafoo, can I correct it booting into a live cd?
[01:45] <dejavou42> dr_willis: sorry not presets. MP4 isn't in the convert to menu
[01:45] <obelus> It's copying files right now, now just hoping that deleting 40cdrom doesn't cause any more errors.
[01:45] <alkafoo> Argorok: undoubtedly
[01:45] <Argorok> alkafoo, I used my entire hard disk to setup ubuntu
[01:46] <Argorok> alkafoo, well, then here we go :] Let me boot from it
[01:46] <dejavou42> ahhh just found edit --> presets
[01:46] <blackshirt> Argorok: what the problems ?
[01:46] <obelus> :\ it's telling me that the name exists on the network now :( It's only ever been this laptop's name
[01:47] <angela-> dr_willis you mene synaptic?
[01:47] <RiXtEr-Home> aBound, iceroot, Thanks to both of you!
[01:47] <Argorok> blackshirt, my ubuntu doesnt recognize my nvidia card. After grub the screen goes black and my display show "NO SIGNAL"... I can use vga=791, nosplash, nofb, nomodeset, or any combination of them, and it doesnt work
[01:47] <aBound> No problem.
[01:47] <dr_willis> angela-:  whatever package manager tools you like. Synaptic is one.
[01:47] <angela-> ok
[01:49] <Pickleface_>  im using linux 11.10 the old gnome theme, how do I set appointments and stuff on the calender ?
[01:49] <dr_willis> Argorok:  'nomodeset' is often needed. untill you get the nvidia drivers installed.
[01:49] <alkafoo> Pickleface_: in Evolution?
[01:50] <dr_willis> Argorok:  i often use 'nomodeset noquiet nosplash nofb'
[01:50] <Pickleface_> alkafoo: thats the default bar ontop that shows the time and stuff right ?
[01:50] <Argorok> dr_willis, I run into the same problem, as if I didn't changed the bootargs
[01:50] <Pickleface_> alkafoo: if so, yes
[01:50] <Argorok> alkafoo, ok, I'm running the live os
[01:50] <alkafoo> Pickleface_: no, Evolution was the default mail/calendar app, it's been swapped for Thunderbird in recent versions
[01:50] <dr_willis> Argorok:  the 'text' option should get you to a console also. where you can install the ssh server, and nvidia drivers to make trobule shooting easier.
[01:51] <alkafoo> Pickleface_: you might want to install sunbird, or install evolution again
[01:51] <blackshirt> Argorok: maybe better you using vesa drivers first, if not possible yet using nvidia driver
[01:51] <dr_willis> Argorok:  the live-cd has a menu item (hit space where you see the man=keyboard image, then under F5 or F6 i recall)
[01:52] <curran> anyone know how I can find out the chipset for my nvidia ethernet (built-in)?  Motherboard MCP61PM-GM GeForce 6150SE nForce 430, just trying to figure out the chip, but some online have realtek, while I think mine is nvidia or something...  Didn't know they did chips for networking.
[01:52] <alkafoo> curran: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[01:52] <dr_willis> curran:  lspci command also . may give a clue
[01:52] <curran> Not that important, but would like to know, so I can add a correct name w/ the MAC in my networking configuration (e.g. router, bridge, etc.)
[01:52] <alkafoo> probably just need forcedeth
[01:53] <Argorok> blackshirt, dr_willis, tryed vesa with vga=791 and other options... Nothing too... Didn't try this text option... Need to delete quiet splash to add text?
[01:53] <curran> I got it working, just wanna know the chip
[01:53] <curran> I tried lspci.
[01:53] <Argorok> Can't I install nvidia driver on host system using a live cd?
[01:53] <dr_willis> Argorok:  try nomodset noquiet nofb nosplash text
[01:53] <curran> just mentions the ethernet bridge, unless that's it, was thinking an iwlist or something command
[01:53] <Pickleface_> alkafoo: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/441/screenshotat20120103205.png/ the bar on the top
[01:53] <dr_willis> Argorok:  ive never needed to mess with vga=XXX     Im not sure that sort of option even works these days
[01:54] <kasii> hi alll
[01:54] <alkafoo> Pickleface_: what about it?
[01:54] <Pickleface_> alkafoo: how do I check if its evolution or thunderbird?..
[01:54] <kasii> hi all
[01:54] <Noobix789> hiya
[01:54] <alkafoo> vga= is for the framebuffer (during bootup)
[01:54] <dr_willis> alkafoo:  and nofb disables the framebuffer
[01:54] <alkafoo> Pickleface_: you'll only have one installed by default; dpkg -L evolution
[01:55] <curran> looks like it is using the forcedeth kernel driver.
[01:55] <alkafoo> most do
[01:55] <alkafoo> (nvidia devices)
[01:56] <curran> Is there any way to update those modules, or would you have to recompile the whole kernel?
[01:56] <hoster> ef
[01:56] <Argorok> dr_willis, tryed... Same thing
[01:56] <kasii> sorry friend about  a week i tried to run partial upgrade  to my ubuntu 11.10 oneric oncelot and fail to finish the upgrade and now the problem is my  laptop fails to shut down safely
[01:57] <kasii> sorry friend about  a week i tried to run partial upgrade  to my ubuntu 11.10 oneric oncelot and fail to finish the upgrade and now the problem is my  laptop fails to shut down safely
[01:57] <dr_willis> Argorok:  this isent one of those weird new laptops that have 2 video chipsets in them?
[01:57] <alkafoo> curran: in Ubuntu you would typically update the kernel image only; what makes you think you need to
[01:57] <kasii> sorry friend about  a week i tried to run partial upgrade  to my ubuntu 11.10 oneric oncelot and fail to finish the upgrade and now the problem is my  laptop fails to shut down safely
[01:57] <Argorok> dr_willis, no, its a little old desktop with only offboard vga
[01:57] <alkafoo> kasii: less frequently please
[01:57] <dr_willis> Argorok:  what chipset exactly?
[01:57] <kasii> sorry friend about  a week i tried to run partial upgrade  to my ubuntu 11.10 oneric oncelot and fail to finish the upgrade and now the problem is my  laptop fails to shut down safely
[01:58] <kasii> yes alkafoo
[01:58] <obelus> !repeat | kasii
[01:58] <Argorok> dr_willis, don't remember, let me see on the motherboard datasheet
[01:58] <Brewster> you know when you install something and sometimes a box pops up that asks for additional configuration? How do I get that back?
[01:58] <curran> I don't need to, was just thinking if nvidia has updated drivers for their chipset, might get better bandwidth, less packet loss or whatever, you know...  I like to update.
[01:58] <alkafoo> Argorok: you should be able to tell your install to use whatever setup the working live OS is using for starters
[01:58] <alkafoo> curran: ah, well
[01:59] <Argorok> dr_willis, Intel 945 Express, Intel ICH7
[01:59] <alkafoo> curran: I believe you will get update notices by default
[01:59] <Argorok> alkafoo, but how? The live os boots normal, without any warnings or errors
[02:00] <obelus> !pm > kasii
[02:00] <kasii> sorry friend about  a week i tried to run partial upgrade  to my ubuntu 11.10 oneric oncelot and fail to finish the upgrade and now the problem is my  laptop fails to shut down safely
[02:00] <alkafoo> Argorok: compare the GRUB configs for starters, then the kernel configs
[02:01] <alkafoo> kasii: safely?
[02:01] <Argorok> alkafoo, where is it? I've set the live os on my pen
[02:01] <waterDrop> do someone know about where could i found command prompt for kernel ubuntu 11
[02:01] <waterDrop> web address
[02:01] <waterDrop> recommend me some
[02:02] <alkafoo> Argorok: /boot/grub/grub.cfg probably
[02:02] <kasii> yes  now am switch  through the power button
[02:02] <alkafoo> waterDrop: find what now?
[02:02] <Argorok> alkafoo, only have loopback.cfg
[02:02] <alkafoo> kasii: ah
[02:02] <waterDrop> command list
[02:02] <gogeta> waterDrop: do you mean alt cli just open a term
[02:02] <alkafoo> kasii: you might be missing some power management packages
[02:02] <waterDrop> who knows? please
[02:03] <gogeta> waterDrop: you whant a basic command line list
[02:03] <waterDrop> not all, just complete cmd that often uses
[02:03] <waterDrop> recommended website please
[02:03] <waterDrop> some address
[02:03] <gogeta> waterDrop: http://ss64.com/bash/
[02:04] <waterDrop> i'll try it
[02:04] <waterDrop> thx
[02:04] <waterDrop> someone else, wanna recommend me another address, please? :)
[02:04] <gogeta> waterDrop: but relly you only will use a few of them unless you relly need to truble shoot something
[02:04] <nightcracker__> can someone help me with some wine error?
[02:05] <kasii> alkafoo am waiting for ya answer
[02:05] <blackshirt> nightcracker__: just pastebin your error output ?
[02:05] <nightcracker__> http://nclabs.org/errors.log
[02:05] <curran> haha, update notices, I like that.
[02:05] <nightcracker__> I'm (trying to) use xvfb
[02:05] <gogeta> waterDrop: if any
[02:05] <Argorok> alkafoo, cant I install drivers on my OS through the live OS? Or can I install nvidia drivers together to the system when I do a system install? (Its a fresh installation, I can do another)
[02:06] <alkafoo> Argorok: you can, yes
[02:06] <waterDrop> gogeta: ok i already open that address, hmm, it's enough for now, thanks gogeta
[02:06] <Argorok> alkafoo, how? I just need to set up the nvidia driver
[02:06] <alkafoo> Argorok: did you say the display was getting no signal when X was supposed to have started, or before then?
[02:06] <nightcracker__> blackshirt: basically, I'm trying to run an executable that requires graphics and sound output (no way to disable it) on a server
[02:07] <nightcracker__> blackshirt: so I've set up xvfb, and ALSA, but I think I did something wrong
[02:07] <Argorok> alkafoo, dunno... After the choice on grub, It goes to black screen with no signal
[02:07] <gogeta> Argorok: you can drop to cli mode using failsafe and install them by hand that way
[02:07] <dr_willis> Argorok:  you are trying to install teh nvidia drivers when you just stated you had an intel chipset?
[02:07] <waterDrop> actually i use, ubuntu 11, and im a newbie, i'll ask later...
[02:07] <gogeta> Argorok: thers also ways of remastering the iso to include em
[02:07] <dr_willis> Argorok          | dr_willis, Intel 945 Express, Intel ICH7
[02:08] <dr_willis> thats definatly not a nvidia gpu.
[02:08] <oneliner> does anyone if there have been any updates to the ethernet issues with the realtek driver? latest / best workaround was the backport but it still gives quite spotty connectivity (random lags and disconnects along with dead transfers)
[02:08] <Argorok> dr_willis, this chipset doesn't have onboard vga
[02:08] <gogeta> Argorok: oyea thats intel and a 845 will work out of the box
[02:08] <hiexpo> whats channel for freenode chat help
[02:08] <oneliner> know* somewhere in there
[02:08] <gogeta> 945
[02:08] <Argorok> dr_willis, you asked my chipset, not my vga
[02:08] <dr_willis> Argorok:  so you have BOTH then?
[02:08] <dr_willis> onboard intel, and nvidia pci(e)
[02:08] <gogeta> Argorok: 945 extress is onbord vga
[02:09] <Argorok> dr_willis, my mobo DONT have onboard vga, DONT have onboard gpu, this chipset DONT HAVE things about graphs
[02:09] <dr_willis> Argorok:  so what nvidia card do you have?
[02:09] <Argorok> dr_willis, then come here and show me the vga DB15 on back panel ¬¬
[02:09] <gogeta> Argorok: umm
[02:09] <nightcracker__> blackshirt: any idea?
[02:10] <gogeta> Argorok: 945 might be the sound bord as well
[02:10] <Argorok> alkafoo, let me see how to do it... cli/failsafe option... Never did (I think)
[02:10] <Argorok> gogeta, the north and south chipsets are intel
[02:10] <gogeta> Argorok: in failsafe it will come up with a menu slect command line
[02:11] <gogeta> Argorok: you might need to change the runlevel simply by passing init 3
[02:11] <osmodivs> After downloading the nVidia drivers from synaptic, my monitor resolution is messed up: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/23841 And I can't get it back to normal (1440x900) How can I fix this?
[02:11] <kasii> hey any body to help me
[02:11] <gogeta> Argorok: but you should be alble to install the drivers by hand
[02:12] <gogeta> Argorok: the gui needs to be down anyways for it to work
[02:13] <Argorok> osmodivs, tryed xorgconf?
[02:13] <Argorok> gogeta, let me try init 3
[02:13] <gogeta> Argorok: you need to go into failsafe cli first so x does not try and start and muck stuff up
[02:14] <osmodivs> Argorok: After downloading the drivers, I did this: sudo nvidia-xconfig and then rebooted, and then messed up
[02:14] <gogeta> Argorok: then login and sudo init 3
[02:14] <Xfce-user> Hey guys
[02:14] <Xfce-user> I am back
[02:14] <gogeta> Argorok: at that point you should be able to install the nivida run file
[02:14] <Xfce-user> I was not able to fix it
[02:15] <gogeta> Argorok: you also will need to blacklist the nevu driver
[02:15] <Xfce-user> I still have trouble trying to load lightDM
[02:15] <gogeta> Argorok: i know a royel pain in the but
[02:15] <Xfce-user> I tried to install ubuntu-desktop or gnome
[02:15] <Xfce-user> but, I do not know how to connect to the internet in recovery mode
[02:15] <Argorok> gogeta, how to get into failsafe?
[02:16] <gogeta> Argorok: do you still have a ui
[02:16] <gogeta> Argorok: hears a easy way
[02:16] <angela-> dr_willis i have fount the map in the system of ubuntu the map etc he is in it but thre are no config file in to
[02:16] <gogeta> Argorok: http://mygeekopinions.blogspot.com/2011/06/how-to-install-nvidia-2750907-driver-in.html
[02:17] <Argorok> (grub recovery option boots into this fuchsia screen http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/4407/fotolg.jpg and I cant get my usb keyboard work :/)
[02:17] <angela-> i ment icecast2
[02:17] <gogeta> Argorok: that ppa has the latest bult and ready to go
[02:17] <Xfce-user> hi dr_willis and braiam
[02:18] <Xfce-user> Guys. I need help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1903963
[02:18] <Xfce-user> I removed gnome after installing xubuntu-desktop
[02:18] <Argorok> gogeta, how to get the console to type?
[02:18] <Xfce-user> and now I can't login (lightdm dosn't load)
[02:18] <alkafoo> Xfce-user: is it installed? dpkg -L lightdm
[02:19] <Xfce-user> Since I lost all GUI. I am trying to fix using the virutal console
[02:19] <Xfce-user> when I try to use apt, it shows the following message:
[02:19] <jacob_> do play dvd movies in her
[02:19] <x3k4p> error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/MIBOxygen/MIBOxygen.plymouth doesn't exist.
[02:19] <x3k4p>  how to fix this error
[02:19] <Ben64> Xfce-user: why did you do all that?
[02:19] <alkafoo> jacob_: ?
[02:19] <Xfce-user> sudo: can't open /var/lib/sudo/my-username/consoloe
[02:20] <osmodivs> How can I get my screen monitor resolution back to normal? nVidia-settings only gives me 2 choices, and none of them are ideal for my 1440x900 resolution monitor http://www.pasteall.org/pic/23841
[02:20] <jacob_> do u hack on her
[02:20] <angela-> iff i typer in the termenal sudo gedit /ect/default/icecast2  it whil open the config file but i cant save it i have than a error
[02:20] <Xfce-user> read only filesystem
[02:20] <Xfce-user> W: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:21] <jacob_> deo u play dvd movies onher
[02:21] <Ben64> Xfce-user: read only filesystem means it is mounted read only
[02:21] <Xfce-user> Ben64:  I tried to switch to Xfce since my machine was becoming slower.
[02:21] <x3k4p> error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/MIBOxygen/MIBOxygen.plymouth doesn't exist.
  how to fix this error
[02:21] <Morgan> Any one know of a good site or book to learn the command line?
[02:21] <Ben64> becoming slower? Did you downgrade it?
[02:21] <Argorok> gogeta, ?
[02:22] <_jason> !cli | Morgan
[02:22] <Xfce-user> Hi Ben64. I also tried to choose "remount /read/write and mount all other filesystem" in recovery mode.
[02:22] <bencc> can I use upstart to start a python server as a daemon?
[02:22] <bencc> I want to run rtmplite http://code.google.com/p/rtmplite/
[02:22] <Xfce-user> But, it became crazy and I had to restart.
[02:22] <alkafoo> Argorok: you can use the live OS if you have to
[02:22] <Ben64> Xfce-user: to do anything to the system you will have to mount it rw
[02:23] <alkafoo> Argorok: getting no signal after GRUB and not being able to use your keyboard in that framebuffer window are two separate issues, though
[02:23] <x3k4p> i need answer
[02:23] <Xfce-user> I just borrowed another laptop from my sibling
[02:23] <alkafoo> x3k4p: 42
[02:23] <Xfce-user> now, I can work on the laptop while receiving suggestions and help ;-)
[02:23] <x3k4p> 42??/
[02:24] <Argorok> alkafoo, my live os is up and running... How can I isntall the driver on the host system instead of the "live system"?
[02:24] <Xfce-user> ok. I am in Recovery Menu (limited read-only menu)
[02:24] <Xfce-user> and I just chose "remount Remount/read/write and mount all other filesystems"
[02:25] <x3k4p> error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/MIBOxygen/MIBOxygen.plymouth doesn't exist.
  how to fix this error
[02:25] <alkafoo> Argorok: does the command 'which pastebinit' return a /bin/ path ?
[02:25] <Xfce-user> It says: [756/339379] Ext4-fs (sda1): remounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[02:26] <Ben64> Xfce-user: ok..
[02:27] <Xfce-user> and... then, I am lost. The _ is blinking normally like in any console.
[02:27] <Argorok> alkafoo, which pastebinit did nothing
[02:27] <defaultuser> Hi all.  new ubuntu user trying to get jdk and jre set up.  They came in RPM packages, but my 10.04 netbook install doesnt seem to have RPM package manager.  I tried to download and compile that, but terminal tells me i don't have a compatible c compiler.  So I try to install that, and it seems like nothing at all happens.  Anyone want to hold my hand as I try to do this?
[02:27] <Xfce-user> but, then, how do I return to root..
[02:27] <Xfce-user> I mean, whatever I type... , it dosn't do anything
[02:28] <x3k4p> error: alternative path /lib/plymouth/themes/MIBOxygen/MIBOxygen.plymouth doesn't exist.  how to fix this error ???
[02:28] <alkafoo> Argorok: okay, run this: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[02:28] <alkafoo> Argorok: then give me the link it spits out
[02:28] <Ben64> Xfce-user: what if you hit CTRL+ALT+F2
[02:28] <Xfce-user> If I press "Ctrl + Alt + Delte" then it takes me to Recover Menu again.. but, after a while it restarts.
[02:28] <Xfce-user> I think, i tried that. Let me see.
[02:29] <Xfce-user> ok
[02:29] <Xfce-user> The screen is dark. And the " _ " is blinking.
[02:29] <Argorok> alkafoo, unable to locate package pastebinit
[02:29] <Ben64> Xfce-user: can you get to a console at all in any mode
[02:29] <Xfce-user> But, it dosn't say anything like ~#
[02:30] <Xfce-user> I can get it to the console if I choose "root" in the Recovery Menu
[02:30] <Ben64> then do that
[02:30] <Argorok> alkafoo, (I'm running the live system, not the installed one... The live cd booted to the ram, not from the disk)
[02:30] <Xfce-user> ok.
[02:31] <kcw45> hey guys and gals: the ubuntu repos don't have 64bit flash hidden away somewhere do they?  flashplugin-installer brings in a lot of 32-bit libraries
[02:31] <alkafoo> Argorok: right, should still work
[02:31] <Ben64> kcw45: you can get 64 bit flash from adobe
[02:31] <Xfce-user> Choosing "root   Drop to root shell prompt"
[02:31] <Xfce-user> now I am in a console
[02:31] <kcw45> Ben64, good deal.  was just checking if it was in repos, thanks!
[02:31] <Xfce-user> root@computer
[02:31] <alkafoo> Argorok: can you ping -c 3 www.yahoo.com ?
[02:31] <Argorok> alkafoo, apt-cache search pastebin returned nothing too
[02:32] <bigtom21485> I'm encoding mp3's with rhythmbox.  in editing my "mp3" profile, what do i change?  it encoded at 48kbps, i want 128kbps
[02:32] <Ben64> Xfce-user: pastebin the output of "mount"
[02:32] <Xfce-user> ok
[02:32] <Argorok> alkafoo, yes
[02:32] <alkafoo> bigtom21485: what all does it show?
[02:33] <bigtom21485> gstreamer pipeline: audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lamemp3enc name=enc target=0 quality=6 ! xingmux ! id3v2mux
[02:33] <alkafoo> Argorok: okay, well, maybe the image you installed with is just bonkers
[02:33] <alkafoo> Argorok: that would be nice in a way, as a reinstall with a non-bonkers image might not yield these problems you're having
[02:33] <alkafoo> Argorok: how'd you put it onto the USB?
[02:33] <Argorok> alkafoo, bonkers?
[02:33] <alkafoo> Argorok: not sane
[02:33] <exrouter> is there NLB feature available in eucalyptus ec2 private cloud.
[02:33] <Argorok> alkafoo, usb-pendrive-linux... something like that... as shows in the ubuntu tutorial
[02:33] <urlin2u> defaultuser, you  want the tar.gz, these packages are not in oneiric your running lucid, have you checked if the are in software sources.
[02:34] <bigtom21485> alkafoo: I guess i change the "quality" but is it a linear value? like its 6 for 48 kbps, so it'd be like 18 for 128kbps, right?
[02:34] <Xfce-user> it will take a while since I have to type it manually.
[02:34] <alkafoo> Argorok: ah, that was wrong =)
[02:34] <alkafoo> Argorok: what OS do you have to make a new USB image?
[02:34] <bigtom21485> alkafoo: *16?
[02:34] <Ben64> Xfce-user: you can skip the ones that start with "none"
[02:34] <Matt040804> Can I configure the amount of time the those "growl-like notifications" stay on screen?
[02:34] <Argorok> alkafoo, I used the ubuntu-11.10-x86
[02:34] <bigtom21485> matt040804: that would be cool to change that :-)
[02:35] <Argorok> From ubuntu site
[02:35] <alkafoo> bigtom21485: it'd probably be 128, but it depends on what rhythmbox is using...
[02:35] <Matt040804> bigtom21485: so...is that a "no"
[02:35] <alkafoo> (for MP3 encoding, typically you'd use lame)
[02:35] <alkafoo> Argorok: okay, did you check the md5 sum?
[02:35] <bigtom21485> matt040804: i don't know how to change it, i was just saying it would be cool to know how to change it bc i have no idea
[02:35] <alkafoo> Matt040804: you can configure anything
[02:36] <pav5088> Embarrassing question : I was given a password for an ssh service which was swallowed by gnome-keyring, but I forgot the original password.  How can I get it back in cleartext?  I've tried seahorse, but it doesn't seem to show the password I'm interested in (which is an ssh password I use from a terminal).
[02:36] <Matt040804> alkafoo: how do I configure those notifications? they stay on screen way too long for my liking
[02:36] <exrouter> is there NLB feature available in eucalyptus ec2 private cloud.
[02:36] <Argorok> alkafoo, http://pastebin.com/JnfbSYqx I installed sshd on the desktop live system, and now im connected to it, look the fdisk -l that youve asked
[02:36] <Argorok> alkafoo, yes, checked the md5
[02:36] <jacob_> i need help
[02:37] <docmur> http://pastebin.com/J8VBdgqZ  That is code on how I display the SSL certifcates on every other Linux distro in C, For some reaon in Ubuntu I get No Certificates returned, even though I can fully use the SSL socket, Ubuntu as the same certifactes my gentoo box does and it workes exactly like should, does anyone know why this wouldn't work
[02:38] <alkafoo> Argorok: I'd try reinstalling with a USB imaged by unetbootin instead of whatever you used earlier
[02:39] <station> hello!
[02:39] <bluezone> AMD has some issues supporting their cards on linux...
[02:39] <Xfce-user> OK. I am back
[02:39] <Xfce-user> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/792337/
[02:40] <Argorok> alkafoo, ok, let me try
[02:40] <Xfce-user> Ben64: haha. I did not read your next message ><: too  late! I included everything.
[02:40] <exrouter> i need help :is there NLB feature available in eucalyptus ec2 private cloud.
[02:40] <acidfrost> bluezone, ATI may be owned by AMD but AMD refers to processors,  so lets not confuse new users
[02:40] <Ben64> Xfce-user: it looks like it is mounted rw, try doing "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[02:41] <Xfce-user> ok.
[02:42] <Xfce-user> It says: W: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:42] <pooltable> old hard drive windows 98 one how do i boot into it via usb I can see the files but have no idea what to keep my dad very old computer
[02:42] <Xfce-user> E:Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[02:42] <alkafoo> station: hi
[02:42] <alkafoo> bluezone: quite a statement...
[02:43] <Xfce-user> "E: The package list or status file could not be parsed or opened"
[02:43] <alkafoo> pooltable: boot into it?
[02:43] <Ben64> Xfce-user: Then it is time to reinstall, but this time don't break it.
[02:43] <alkafoo> pooltable: why not just copy the files elsewhere
[02:43] <Ben64> Xfce-user: alternatively, your hard drive could be failing
[02:43] <Xfce-user> Ohh noooo
[02:43] <bluezone> alkafoo: sure but it's true
[02:43] <Xfce-user> Oh.
[02:43] <alkafoo> bluezone: it is, but it's also true about nvidia =P
[02:43] <Xfce-user> By the way.
[02:44] <alkafoo> and since that's ati's main competition, the statement is pointless
[02:44] <bluezone> hmm i think they're a bit better
[02:44] <pooltable> alkfoo i can do that but only want to copy what i need not the os
[02:44] <alkafoo> it means a lot coming from you =P
[02:44] <alkafoo> pooltable: well that's a slippery slope
[02:44] <bluezone> thanks :)
[02:44] <Xfce-user> I had some weird experience after "playing around' the recovering menu. When I load the Xubuntu-desktop.. it says "Looking to Configure network..."
[02:44] <alkafoo> pooltable: you better back it all up, then have your dad pick out what he is sure he wants
[02:44] <alkafoo> pooltable: _then_ maybe save space by deleting what he didn't choose
[02:45] <alkafoo> I've seen personal data all in C:\ and other OS areas on Windows boxes
[02:45] <Xfce-user> and then it shows: "Warning unattended-upgrade in progress during shutdown, sleeping for 5s"
[02:45] <alkafoo> since they run as root all the time, they can put things anywhere
[02:45] <Xfce-user> and that message keeps repeating in loops
[02:45] <aBound> Hey all I'm using 10.04 LTS and I installed the nVidia driver yet it never reconfigured my resolution.
[02:46] <alkafoo> aBound: see what nvidia-settings says about it
[02:46] <pooltable> alkfoo how do i copy just copy it all like copy paste?
[02:46] <jacob_> hello
[02:46] <alkafoo> pooltable: cp -r /mnt/point/ some/otherplace/
[02:46] <aBound> alkafoo, From the terminal I assume.
[02:46] <jacob_> i need help
[02:46] <alkafoo> pooltable: or (better) rsync -av /mnt/point/ some/otherplace/backup
[02:47] <jacob_> ping
[02:47] <alkafoo> jacob_: pong?
[02:47] <pooltable> alkfoo sorry this is on a windows coputer running 7
[02:47] <alkafoo> aBound: what about assuming?
[02:47] <alkafoo> aBound: oh
[02:47] <alkafoo> aBound: yes or ALT+F2
[02:47] <alkafoo> aBound: or possibly gksu nvidia-settings
[02:48] <alkafoo> pooltable: Windows has awful copying utils... ask ##windows about it if you want
[02:48] <jacob_> do u hacok on this
[02:48] <jacob_> hack
[02:48] <alkafoo> xcopy, robocopy, bizarre useless apps
[02:48] <alkafoo> jacob_: sure
[02:48] <mneptok> jacob_: do you have a support question?
[02:48] <alkafoo> pooltable: you can't hook the drive up to a Linuxy OS?
[02:48] <aeon-ltd> LOLOLOLOLOL
[02:48] <aBound> It says: You do not appear to be using the Nvidia X Driver crazy as crap.
[02:48] <jacob_> ya do u play dvd moviws on her
[02:48] <aeon-ltd> jacob_: you trolling?
[02:49] <alkafoo> aBound: so maybe you aren't
[02:49] <Ben64> aBound: you need to reboot after getting the nvidia driver
[02:49] <aBound> alkafoo, I just installed it.
[02:49] <alkafoo> jacob_: Ubuntu can play DVD movies, if that's what you're asking
[02:49] <aBound> :P
[02:49] <aBound> Ben64, I did reboot.
[02:49] <aBound> :p
[02:49] <Xfce-user> Ben64: ok. I will restart the OS. :)
[02:49] <alkafoo> aBound: installed how?
[02:49] <jacob_> ya
[02:49] <Xfce-user> Say
[02:49] <pooltable> alkfoo yes but do not have the room
[02:49] <Ben64> Xfce-user: that wasn't to you : /
[02:49] <Xfce-user> how do I copy my files to an external drive in recovery mode?
[02:49] <aBound> alkafoo, If you'd like a screenshot I can provide it.
[02:49] <alkafoo> pooltable: you can copy the files over the network to any computer...
[02:50] <aBound> I installed it using this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-settings
[02:50] <Ben64> Xfce-user: rsync works great
[02:50] <alkafoo> pooltable: the Windows way to copy things is to just select all and click-and-drag
[02:50] <pooltable> alkfoo how do i do that ?
[02:50] <Ben64> aBound: why didn't you go through the Hardware Drivers interface?
[02:50] <Xfce-user> how do I mount an external drive?
[02:50] <Xfce-user> Man.. I am so used to the GUI.. ><:
[02:50] <Xfce-user> I feel my limitations now.
[02:50] <aBound> Ben64, Because those are new drivers.
[02:50] <jacob_> dos ubuntu hackin tolls
[02:50] <Argorok> alkafoo, installing
[02:51] <Ben64> Xfce-user: plug in, use "dmesg" to find the device, and then "mount -t <filesystem> <device> <mountpoint>"
[02:51] <alkafoo> pooltable: mmm, it's kind of involved actually =) it would be simple if you booted your Windows 7 box (with the space?) from a live CD/USB/DVD
[02:51] <aBound> I can always uninstall it.
[02:51] <Ben64> aBound: those are the same that are in Hardware Drivers
[02:51] <alkafoo> pooltable: rsync the files from the old drive to the other, then reboot out of the live OS
[02:51] <alkafoo> Argorok: good luck
[02:51] <mneptok> jacob_: if you need help, ask a technical support question. otherwise, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:51] <jacob_> is a good hacking tool
[02:51] <alkafoo> jacob_: it has as many available as any other OS
[02:52] <aBound> About to find out.
[02:52] <Xfce-user> ok. i will try that
[02:52] <jacob_> can u hack me
[02:52] <mneptok> !offtopic | jacob_
[02:52] <alkafoo> jacob_: I could crack you =)
[02:52] <mneptok> alkafoo: please do not encourage this.
[02:52] <jacob_> good crack pros to
[02:53] <aBound> brb
[02:53] <pooltable> alkfoo thanks for the help
[02:53] <Ben64> jacob_: this is not the channel for this type of conversation, take it elsewhere please
[02:56] <Xfce-user> Hi ben64: What do I put after "mount -t" ?
[02:56] <Ben64> Xfce-user: the filesystem
[02:57] <Xfce-user> dmesg shows "sd 2:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk.: "   "usb 7-2: new full speed USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd
[02:57] <Xfce-user> I mean. Ho do I know the filesystem?
[02:57] <rsvc> who use pidgim?
[02:58] <Ben64> Xfce-user: you likely formatted it, you should know : /
[02:58] <kcw45> Xfce-user, it might be vfat if it's a usb thumb drive; could be ext2, ext3, ext4 though
[02:58] <Xfce-user> it should be fat. I never formatted it.
[02:58] <Xfce-user> It is a external hard drive bourght from the store. I never formated it
[02:58] <Xfce-user> from WD
[02:59] <lalagirl> Hi everyone.
[02:59] <kcw45> maybe try ntfs-3g then
[02:59] <alkafoo> Xfce-user: ntfs-3g /dev/whatever /mnt/point
[03:00] <alkafoo> other filesystems rarely need type specified
[03:00] <alkafoo> lalagirl: hi
[03:00] <alkafoo> rsvc: pidgin?  I do, for IMing, rarely
[03:01] <Xfce-user> lol. This is weird. I just pluuged the External drive to my siblings laptop that is working. And it says in properties that it is using "msdos" as filesystem
[03:01] <Ben64> is it linux?
[03:02] <rsvc> alkafoo: Hi, I'm connected to IRC and would like to connect on msn while
[03:02] <Xfce-user> Disk utility says "Partition type W95 FAT32 (LBA)" and "Partition flags: FAT (32-bit version)
[03:03] <Ben64> then put "vfat" for filesystem
[03:03] <rsvc> I'm connected to IRC and would like to simultaneously connect to msn
[03:04] <Xfce-user> so, is it "mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb /mnt/mounted ?
[03:04] <Xfce-user> oh
[03:04] <Xfce-user> vfat
[03:04] <Xfce-user> all right
[03:04] <Xfce-user> thanks. I will try
[03:05] <alkafoo> msdos is a common partition type, too, used by all sorts of _filesystems_
[03:06] <Ben64> Xfce-user: probably sdb1 rather than sdb
[03:06] <alkafoo> rsvc: ok?
[03:06] <daev> can anyone guess why m-a isnt combiling the drivers properly? http://pastebin.com/ikydug2f
[03:06] <Xfce-user> oh. shoot..
[03:06] <Xfce-user> it says:
[03:06] <Xfce-user> "sudo" Can
[03:07] <Xfce-user> oops: retyping
[03:07] <Xfce-user> "Sudo Can't open /var/lib/sudo/enoch/console: Read-only file system
[03:07] <Xfce-user> "mount: mount point /mnt/mounted does not exist
[03:08] <Xfce-user> :(
[03:08] <kcw45> Xfce-user, don't know about the first part of that error, but for the second part, make the directory first "sudo mkdir /mnt/mounted"
[03:08] <BangBusRUs> Hi I need some help with my newly installed Ubuntu 11.10, I want to format Ext4 partitions to NTFS?
[03:08] <alkafoo> Xfce-user: it's going to be NTFS anyways, or nothing at all
[03:09] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: why's that
[03:09] <BangBusRUs> I want to store my media files on the NTFS partitions and want to be able to access them with Windows...
[03:09] <Xfce-user> I checked the filesystem using Disk Utilities in Ubuntu (from other laptop), it mentions FAT32. :)
[03:10] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: so you have some partitions you set up only for storing media?
[03:10] <BangBusRUs> Yes
[03:10] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: ah
[03:10] <Xfce-user> How do I make the filesystem to be writable
[03:10] <BangBusRUs> they are Ext4
[03:10] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: you can use gparted if you like
[03:10] <BangBusRUs> ok cool thanks, oh does it come preinstalled with ubuntu???????
[03:11] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: I think it comes on the install media, and for installs you'd have to install it
[03:11] <LinuxRules> preinstalled lmao
[03:11] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: ?
[03:11] <BangBusRUs> ok
[03:11] <BangBusRUs> I will
[03:11] <broncy> having some playstation media server woes. can anyone help? Running x64 Ubuntu 11.1
[03:11] <DFan247> how do you change a media handler?
[03:11] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: it's a little less dangerous than using the command way if you're not familiar with them
[03:11] <alkafoo> using gparted, that is
[03:11] <LinuxRules> preinstalle with the better OS than windows which is well marketed?
[03:11] <kcw45> broncy, have you installed ffmpeg?  been a while since i ran ps3mediaserver, but that solved most my problems
[03:12] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: that question is pretty hard to parse
[03:12] <WebGoddess008> hello
[03:12] <alkafoo> hi
[03:12] <LinuxRules> do any boxes come pre-installed with Linux?
[03:12] <broncy> @kcw45 yeah i've got ffmpeg up to date
[03:12] <BangBusRUs> One more thing while the updates are being downloaded and installed, How do I access the Ext4 partitions I named one as /Media and the other as /Backpus?
[03:12] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: yes of course
[03:12] <Xfce-user> Are we on a dead-end? :(
[03:12] <WebGoddess008> i've completely switched from windows 7 to ubuntu now :)
[03:12] <LinuxRules> alkafoo you asked me you caould decipher what I said
[03:13] <kcw45> broncy, i probably cannot help much then, but what are your woes?
[03:13] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: they should be available from the file manager, nautilus
[03:13] <broncy> @kcw45 I have the most updated version of every decoder and have a specific error to trace back
[03:13] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: yes?
[03:13] <LinuxRules> just like I cant spell :) couldnt*
[03:13] <BangBusRUs> I'm new to Linux...
[03:13] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: on the left there should be an icon like a folder
[03:13] <broncy> all streaming is choppy and I'm certain it's a decoding issue rather than a network issue
[03:13] <BangBusRUs> But I don't see them?
[03:13] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: otherwise hit the top left circular ubuntu logo and type 'nautilus'
[03:14] <WebGoddess008> other than running an Xp instance in virtualbox for photoshop ... and using crossover for SQLyog
[03:14] <LinuxRules> alkafoo I know some lap tps and boxes come preinstalled just not enough!
[03:14] <Xfce-user> LinuxRules: You should check out http://www.system76.com/index.php/
[03:14] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: try sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[03:14] <pythonirc101> Is anyone using virtualbox ubuntu guest on windows here? I'm having trouble with 3d opengl speed -- any hints on how to debug the problem?
[03:14] <BangBusRUs> ok
[03:14] <LinuxRules> xfce-user why?
[03:14] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: the problem is it's virtualized
[03:15] <Xfce-user> I just read the part where you said: "do any boxes come pre-installed with Linux?"
[03:15] <pythonirc101> alkafoo: so its vbox problem?
[03:15] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: no
[03:15] <Xfce-user> System76 sells computers with Ubuntu Linux pre-instaled
[03:15] <pythonirc101> then how do we fix it?
[03:15] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: you don't
[03:15] <LinuxRules> ah Ic xfce-user :)
[03:15] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: hardware acceleration requires direct access to hardware to work optimally
[03:16] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: virtualized software doesn't typically have that access
[03:16] <pythonirc101> alkafoo: vbox says it supports 3d acceleration
[03:16] <LinuxRules> << Is drunk > 2&1> /dev/null
[03:16] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: no it doesn't
[03:16] <alkafoo> pythonirc101: it says it has an experimental feature with '3d' in its name
[03:16] <LinuxRules> see well drunk to many >
[03:16] <WebGoddess008> i have a few questions for those who aren't brand new to ubuntu ... any easy way to make the main desktop font smaller? it is too big on my laptop...also whenever i open a file in gedit then it opens a blank document for some unknown reason
[03:17] <WebGoddess008> i want to learn gvim but i just have work to do so i need to wait until that work is done to figure it out
[03:17] <LinuxRules> vim sucks
[03:18] <LinuxRules> Ive always used nano because its quicker
[03:18] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: but it isn't quicker =P
[03:18] <Xfce-user> LinuxRules: ZaReason, Inc. Also sells computers with Linux: zareason.com
[03:18] <alkafoo> it just takes less learning, because it does less
[03:18] <aBound> Looks like it's installing the incorrect nVidia driver blah.
[03:18] <alkafoo> aBound: it what?
[03:18] <laurus> Has anyone here had trouble using Gajim for voice calls through XMPP?
[03:18] <BangBusRUs> Okay I see them now, but is there a way to reformat the partitions and format them again to something windows wont have a hard time reading?
[03:19] <LinuxRules> alkafoo it is lot less key strokes to open modify and save a file
[03:19] <aBound> alkafoo, 10.04 LTS seems like it installed the wrong driver for my GPU.
[03:19] <WebGoddess008> alkafoo, google didn't help, i think it is because i am using dolphin perhaps to open files to edit?
[03:19] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: it isn't, actually
[03:19] <LinuxRules> what nano file
[03:19] <WebGoddess008> every time i open a file in gedit from dolphin it opens a brand new blank document as well
[03:19] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: did you see that thread on ubuntuforums that said solved?
[03:19] <LinuxRules> modify ctrl+x save
[03:19] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: why're you using dolphin
[03:19] <LinuxRules> vi file
[03:20] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: the ways you can modify files in Vim are what save you time, the opening and saving/exiting actions use about the same amount of key strokes
[03:20] <LinuxRules> press inserrt type modification press esc press is it shift? then type :qw!
[03:20] <BangBusRUs> alkafoo : Okay so I see them now, so now is there anyway to reformat the partitions and reformat them to something windows wont have a hard time reading data off of?
[03:21] <WebGoddess008> what's wrong with dolphin?
[03:21] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: if you start with press insert, you're already doing it wrong =)
[03:21] <ranu> LinuxRules: How many times do you have to hit the arrow keys, or the backspace key to make your changes in pico vs vim?
[03:21] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: nothing, it's just odd to use KDE's file manager with GNOME
[03:21] <urlin2u> WebGoddess008, what desktop you running?
[03:22] <LinuxRules> I usually only have to make corrections so a line or 2 mainly but vim takes more work
[03:22] <BangBusRUs> BRBgota restart my system...
[03:22] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: it doesn't... if you learn to use it as intended
[03:22] <alkafoo> not everyone feels the time spent doing so is worth it, but that's another matter
[03:22] <LinuxRules> alkafoo I never work with guis either
[03:23] <alkafoo> who's talking about GUIs
[03:23] <LinuxRules> apart from desktop
[03:23] <WebGoddess008> i'm running unity, was going to try out kubuntu but the tutorial to install both unity and kde together didn't work
[03:23] <WebGoddess008> this is my main computer so i don't want to experiment around too much with it
[03:23] <LinuxRules> alkafoo you were
[03:24] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: do you actually prefer dolphin over nautilus?
[03:24] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: nope...
[03:24] <ranu> LinuxRules: You're missing a semicolon on line 100, you open the file, and type this: 100GA;[escape]:wq
[03:24] <WebGoddess008> yeah i like dolphin better
[03:24] <grape_> im using a puppy linux based on ubuntu which is why i ask this here: lucid puppy 5.2.8 seemed to be booting fine until it said performing a 'switch_root' to the layered filesystem . . . Kernel panic - not syn, g: ateempted to kill init! and then it stopped
[03:24] <LinuxRules> but I use and will do into I have to use Gnome 3 switch to tty1 :)
[03:24] <ranu> You're done. How many more times would you hit arrow keys, page down, end, etc to do the same in nano?
[03:24] <LinuxRules> Gnome*
[03:24] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: and you don't know yet if you prefer the rest of KDE over the rest of GNOME?
[03:25] <WebGoddess008> i haven't tried the rest of kde
[03:25] <WebGoddess008> i just installed the main ubuntu, and it defaults to gnome/unity
[03:25] <alkafoo> grape_: if you can't debug issues on your own, you really shouldn't be using puppy
[03:25] <alkafoo> and that said, it's pretty unlikely you should be using puppy regardless; its only purpose is to run on hardware from the 80s
[03:25] <WebGoddess008> i like the name unity because my religion is PLUR aka peace, love, unity, and respect :P
[03:26] <WebGoddess008> but that being said perhaps i'm a kubuntu personality type if i were to actually give it a try
[03:26] <BangBusRUs> Back wow didn't know Ubuntu was so cool ha
[03:26] <grape_> right, which is what im trying to do, this distro in particular is supposed to be easy to use for the novice
[03:26] <urlin2u> grape_, try #puppylinux
[03:26] <WebGoddess008> i suppose i can download and try the livecd and see if i like it just took forever to get unity working the way i like it
[03:26] <alkafoo> grape_: yet clearly it isn't
[03:26] <grape_> i did, no one is answering right now
[03:26] <LinuxRules> alkafoo i scrolled up to copy and paste what you said must of dreamt it
[03:26] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: heh
[03:26]  * station switches from irssi to weechat
[03:27] <alkafoo> isn't that always the way
[03:27] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: =)
[03:27] <LinuxRules> Im smashed
[03:27] <grape_> alkafoo_ i dont know about that, they said my machine might have trouble since it only has 60 MB of RAM
[03:27] <WebGoddess008> well ubuntu would be easy for a novice, if said novice hasn't used a computer before and wasn't dogmaed into ways of doing thimgs aready
[03:27] <WebGoddess008> *things
[03:27] <alkafoo> grape_: in the time it's taking you to get this working, you could undoubtedly earn enough to get a modern machine
[03:28] <WebGoddess008> i think ubuntu is a good distro for a novice computer user, not someone who is indoctrinated in years of windows necessarily
[03:28] <grape_> gee, you guys arent very nice
[03:28] <alkafoo> nice doesn't factor into it
[03:28] <LinuxRules> << Is useless at any non RH/Cent/Fedora questions too Im here to learn the DEbian way
[03:28] <grape_> i thought IRC was about helping nevermind
[03:28] <alkafoo> the people who weren't nice are those who told you to use puppy
[03:28] <Boom_Farmer> Is it safe to upgrade 10.04.3 LTS to 11.10 using a LiveCD?
[03:28] <WebGoddess008> grape hardware is cheap these days
[03:28] <urlin2u> Boom_Farmer, wont be a upgrade
[03:29] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: if you have a separate /home/ partition
[03:29] <grape_> cheap is relative
[03:29] <alkafoo> not that relative
[03:29] <BangBusRUs> alkafoo, ok so now I can see the partitions, but now is there a way to reformat the partitions to something bindows wont have a hard time reading from?
[03:29] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: yes, with gparted
[03:29] <Boom_Farmer> alkafoo, I have the contents of /home backed up on an unplugged external drive.
[03:29] <BangBusRUs> ok thanks
[03:29] <WebGoddess008> i'm homeless at the moment grape and i have a laptop with two gigs of ram that i got free
[03:29] <Boom_Farmer> urlin2u: What's the right term/why not?
[03:29] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: then you could just do an ordinary install of the new version and copy it back
[03:30] <LinuxRules> webgoddess are yoyu blonde?
[03:30] <WebGoddess008> natural blonde :P
[03:30] <Boom_Farmer> What would the advantagese of doing a clean install instead of a distribution upgrade via LiveCD?
[03:30] <WebGoddess008> no, i didn't whore myself out
[03:30] <WebGoddess008> :P
[03:30] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: might work if you do a clean install =P
[03:30] <LinuxRules> ah I like brunettes :(
[03:31] <alkafoo> I like ettes
[03:31] <urlin2u> Boom_Farmer, if you have a separate home as suggested you can save your stuff, as far as a OS upgrade they go from lts or lts or distro by distro.
[03:31] <urlin2u> or=to*
[03:31] <alkafoo> haven't had much success with Ubuntu release updates
[03:31] <grape_> webgoddess you just backed my point. let me know where i can get something with 2 gb of RAM for free and i will be happy to ditch this project
[03:32] <WebGoddess008> honest opinion guys, if i try live cd for kubuntu and like it better should i switch to it?  if i'm going to reinstall again i might as well do it now while i'm only a week into ubuntu as primary OS than when i'm a month into it
[03:32] <BangBusRUs> alfafoo, What file format should I get so both linux and bindows can read/mount them easly?
[03:32] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: NTFS
[03:32] <alkafoo> grape_: you don't need free, you can get a modern computer for $100
[03:32] <LinuxRules> Who needs 2 gb of ddr ram these days?
[03:32] <WebGoddess008> someone left it at an eviction property because they couldn't figure out windows
[03:32] <alkafoo> if you can't make $100 fairly rapidly, you  have no business being on IRC
[03:32] <LinuxRules> is it even sdram?
[03:32] <hydruid> have most of you learned to like unity, or am I the only one who simply hates it?
[03:33] <alkafoo> you can get a raspberry pi soon for $25
[03:33] <WebGoddess008> i like it okay
[03:33] <BangBusRUs> Okay Thanks a lot I really appreciate it... alkafoo
[03:33] <antonio_> hello, i'm antonio, i don't speak english, but i need help about ubuntu server, can you help me?
[03:33] <WebGoddess008> it doesn't feel "ready for prime time" though
[03:33] <grape_> i already have a modern laptop, an old desktop, and now a really old laptop, which for fun and for practical reasons i would like to not just throw away
[03:33] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: no prob
[03:33] <alkafoo> antonio_: what do you speak?
[03:33] <antonio_> i speak spain
[03:33] <lovecrime> rc.indymedia.org
[03:33] <alkafoo> castellano =)
[03:33] <WebGoddess008> i think unity has good potential just there are some gotchas that make it kind of frustrating
[03:33] <antonio_> si
[03:33] <antonio_> castellano
[03:33] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, it feels clunky lol. I agree something had to be done but i think unity was a huge step back
[03:34] <LinuxRules> tty1 > the way most desktops are going (this isnt a tablet or a phone!)
[03:34] <aeon-ltd> !es | antonio_
[03:34] <WebGoddess008> but i'm very nitpicky being a "power user" of a computer rather than the typical "word and excel" cubical types
[03:34] <alkafoo> lot of people think that, though =)
[03:34] <antonio_> i write that here?
[03:34] <alkafoo> antonio_: yes
[03:34] <antonio_> thanks!
[03:34] <alkafoo>  /join #Ubuntu-es
[03:34] <Boom_Farmer> urlin2u, alkafoo: I am currently running the LiveCD, and it has an option to upgrade from 10.04.3 LTS to 11.10. See http://i.imgur.com/kRt0M.png
[03:35] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: I believe there's an option
[03:35] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, yea.....2 application users will have no problems with unity because they won't use it lol
[03:35] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: but if you've already backed up your home, you may as well do a fresh install
[03:35] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 well do what Linux lets you that windows doesent install or code your own x11 :)
[03:35] <WebGoddess008> well this is my first major ubuntu install, i tried 8.04 back when it came out but didn't have the motivation to make the switch
[03:35] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: unless you're just bored/curious
[03:35] <Boom_Farmer> alkafoo, what would the advantage of doing a fresh install be?
[03:35] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: it'd be much more likely to work properly
[03:35] <urlin2u> Boom_Farmer, sounds familiar that was a unusual step in the history of ubuntu.
[03:36] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, did you go with unity 2d or 3d?
[03:36] <WebGoddess008> i wish that there was a linux native equivalent for SQLyog, i suppose i can heidisql over wine but if i'm going to heidisql~wine i might as well sqlyog~wine
[03:36] <Duker> Nothing is showing up when i try to run system-config-samba (after entering my password)
[03:36] <Duker> on 11.10
[03:36] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: what does sqlyog do?
[03:36] <WebGoddess008> just 2d since the graphics card sucks on this laptop
[03:37] <Boom_Farmer> alkafoo: is having things not work a common problem after a dist-upgrade?
[03:37] <zizoo> Hey guys, how do I mount a CD so that an app run in Wine will recognize it as a CD?
[03:37] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: IME it is, with Ubuntu
[03:37] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 or fix your sql syntax :)
[03:37] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: if things work _at all_
[03:37] <WebGoddess008> sqlyog is a powerful tool for mysql DBA including stored procs and triggers and user management etc
[03:37] <zizoo> From an .iso file*
[03:37] <WebGoddess008> much better than mysqladmin
[03:37] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: so, GUI manager?
[03:37] <WebGoddess008> yeah, it is nice
[03:37] <WebGoddess008> i like being productive
[03:37] <alkafoo> zizoo: mount as usual, tell winecfg where it is
[03:37] <WebGoddess008> it makes me more productive
[03:38] <LinuxRules> mysql -uuser -ppassword :)
[03:38] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, go lamp and use PHPMyAdmin lol
[03:38] <alkafoo> it does take a while to learn all the commands
[03:38] <Boom_Farmer> Then I think I shall do a clean install, even though it means reinstalling all my packages.
[03:38] <WebGoddess008> it is better than phpmyadmin
[03:38] <zizoo> Oh ok. Thanks!
[03:38] <alkafoo> to not have to need a GUI
[03:38] <LinuxRules> correection to above mysql -uuser -p
[03:38] <WebGoddess008> i guess i could use phpmyadmin if i have to go completely linux lol
[03:39] <LinuxRules> then enter your pass
[03:39] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: think it'll spare you grief in the long run =)
[03:39] <WebGoddess008> yeah yeah
[03:39] <alkafoo> Boom_Farmer: you can generate a list of your extra installed packages beforehand if you like
[03:39] <alkafoo> !clone
[03:39] <WebGoddess008> before i go command line mysql i'm going to figure out vim completely
[03:39] <hydruid> phpmyadmin lets you use gui and sql commands
[03:39] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: good idea
[03:39] <WebGoddess008> namely i don't know how to handle multiple documents and tabs in gvim
[03:39] <Pilif12p> is there some sort of way that Ubuntu figures out how much swap it needs when you're installing it?
[03:39] <WebGoddess008> i like vim a lot for server work just haven't used it locally
[03:39] <alkafoo> well, webUI
[03:40] <alkafoo> Pilif12p: I would imagine there must be some formula
[03:40] <Boom_Farmer> I used http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366 instead.
[03:40] <WebGoddess008> usually 1.5-2x your ram
[03:40] <Pilif12p> Or does it just say "Hey, I like the number 853 so lets turn that into gigabytes, move the decimal over a couple"
[03:40] <alkafoo> Pilif12p: no doubt based partly on how much RAM the system has
[03:40] <Pilif12p> because that's what it seems to have done
[03:40] <Pilif12p> I don't think I need an 8.5 GB swap partition
[03:40] <alkafoo> Pilif12p: it _probably_ doesn't do that
[03:40] <alkafoo> Pilif12p: you don't
[03:41] <hydruid> Pilif12p, how much ram do you have?
[03:41] <Pilif12p> 3 gb
[03:41] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 learning vim wont help you with mysql nano is the better quick to use editor. You will only ever need to know vi when you need to recover a failed mission critical server
[03:41] <antonio_> mmm hello, nobody is online in "/join #ubuntu-es", could you help me here?
[03:41] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: I don't think she was suggesting it would
[03:41] <hydruid> Pilif12p, yea 8gb is too big lol
[03:41] <WebGoddess008> ... so if i install kubuntu can i keep my regular home directory or do i have to do a clean install? or is it just best to do a clean install?  i'm not sure if i'll like kubuntu more or not either so i don't want to waste time
[03:41] <alkafoo> antonio_: yes
[03:41] <WebGoddess008> i already know vim, just not gui vim
[03:42] <alkafoo> WebGoddess008: should be fine with your current home
[03:42] <Boom_Farmer> WebGoddess008: You can just run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" on your current install of Ubuntu.
[03:42] <alkafoo> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde results vary
[03:42] <WebGoddess008> i thought i tried that and it errored out but i'll try again
[03:42] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 you already using Ubuntu , if you aree no need for Kubuntu just install kde
[03:42] <alkafoo> you might want to try it from outside of X
[03:42] <alkafoo> I've had mixed luck with it
[03:42] <antonio_> ok, i hope you can stand my english xD, i wanna start a ubnut server but i don't know if i must to configure the router, i should do it or it is not need
[03:42] <alkafoo> a fresh install would probably be more likely to work
[03:42] <hydruid> Everytime I've tried to use it, I could never get back to gnome lol
[03:43] <alkafoo> antonio_: you don't need to unless you do =)
[03:43] <alkafoo> antonio_: that is: install, see how it works out, then decide
[03:43] <antonio_> if i wanns mount a web server?
[03:43] <mrdeb> it is ok antonio, go ahead
[03:43] <alkafoo> antonio_: you want to serve to the internet
[03:43] <antonio_> yeah
[03:43] <alkafoo> antonio_: you might have to alter your router configuration, but you can do it after installing
[03:43] <WebGoddess008> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:43] <WebGoddess008>  kubuntu-desktop : Depends: kde-window-manager
[03:43] <WebGoddess008>                    Depends: kde-workspace-bin but it is not going to be installed
[03:43] <WebGoddess008>                    Depends: language-selector-kde but it is not going to be installed
[03:43] <WebGoddess008>                    Depends: plasma-desktop but it is not going to be installed
[03:43] <FloodBot1> WebGoddess008: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:43] <WebGoddess008>                    Depends: plasma-netbook but it is not going to be installed
[03:43] <antonio_> to internet
[03:43] <EvilResistance> !pastebin | WebGoddess008
[03:44] <WebGoddess008> sorry floodbot my bad
[03:44] <antonio_> anyway i must do it?
[03:44] <atvr> hey guys how can i make a new partition in kde partition manager, i want to make a partition to save some musci, text and photo
[03:44] <atvr> photo=picture
[03:44] <alkafoo> antonio_: you might have to do it, you probably will have to BUT
[03:44] <alkafoo> antonio_: you can do it after you install the server, you don't have to wait
[03:44] <hydruid> antonio_, setup your ubuntu web server first, make sure it works on the lan, patch it and secure it, then create a port forward in your router for wan access
[03:45] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 what did you use for install?
[03:45] <antonio_> ok i have stand
[03:45] <antonio_> thank very much
[03:45] <antonio_> muchas gracias
[03:45] <alkafoo> your English is pretty good, BTW
[03:45] <WebGoddess008> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:45] <LinuxRules> why use kde though
[03:45] <alkafoo> sorry my castellano is so horrid
[03:45] <antonio_> jajaja i try to speak english
[03:45] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: why use nano
[03:45] <hydruid> antonio_, server web setup you will forward router port wan
[03:46] <atvr> LinuxRules, because i have kubuntu
[03:46] <LinuxRules> alkafoo because its less keys to press
[03:46] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: but it isn't =)
[03:46] <antonio_> ok then i must pen the port form the router to wan, its true?
[03:46] <WebGoddess008> http://paste.ubuntu.com/792374/
[03:46] <LinuxRules> alkafoo it is though 1. vi
[03:47] <hydruid> antonio_, the port foward in the router is only so the "internet" can see your web server
[03:47] <Circular> does there have any chinese here???
[03:47] <alkafoo> antonio_: somehow you have to get a static IP to point to your web server, there are various scenarios
[03:47] <LinuxRules> alkafoo 2. insert
[03:47] <alkafoo> Circular: #ubuntu-cn
[03:47] <LinuxRules> alkafoo 3 type
[03:47] <alkafoo> LinuxRules: insert is not the second step =P
[03:48] <antonio_> ok
[03:48] <LinuxRules> thats the way its always worked for me
[03:48] <antonio_> i stand
[03:48] <hydruid> antonio_, an example: Web Server Lan IP: 192.168.1.50 , public IP: 4.2.2.2 , create port forward of 4.2.2.2:8080 -> 192.168.1.50:80
[03:48] <alkafoo> antonio_: just install and get your system working locally first, you have to do that regardless
[03:48] <LinuxRules> alkafoo Ive always hated vim lol
[03:48] <BangBusRUs> Whats the best media player that can play almost all media?
[03:48] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: that has a GUI?
[03:48] <hydruid> BangBusRUs, nice name lol
[03:48] <BangBusRUs> Thx
[03:49] <BangBusRUs> Dont care would be nice to have a nice gui but it should be a resorce hog like all of bindows apps
[03:49] <antonio_> okok where 4.2.2.2 is the public ip and 8080 is the port number?
[03:49] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: try SMPlayer
[03:49] <hydruid> antonio_, just setup the server first, then worry about the port forward later
[03:50] <antonio_> ok,
[03:50] <BangBusRUs> ok thx, would it be good for dvd's and DAT files?
[03:50] <Guest52340> My ubuntu on flashdrive can't install to hard drive completely, various errors
[03:50] <antonio_> thank you, i will start my server now! :D
[03:50] <Guest52340> is there any other way to install to hard drive?
[03:50] <LinuxRules> hydruid your server only serving web pages?
[03:50] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: almost anything
[03:50] <BangBusRUs> sweet
[03:51] <Bunie> I know i should ask this in #gnome but you guys r awesome x3 Why the heck doesnt Gnome have a minimize button?
[03:51] <antonio_> thankkkks!
[03:51] <alkafoo> BangBusRUs: mplayer (what SMPlayer is a frontend for) will probably play a little more just because the GUI has to make certain assumptions
[03:51] <hydruid> LinuxRules, not mine it's antonio_ 's
[03:51] <alkafoo> Bunie: doesn't it?
[03:52] <LinuxRules> ah kk only 80 and a http aly have been opened though
[03:52] <LinuxRules> alt*
[03:53] <WebGoddess008> ... so do gnome apps work well with kde? i would assume so but i haven't done anything with kde so i'm gnu to it
[03:53] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, i think they can float back and forth but it looks "ugly"
[03:53] <LinuxRules> dont use kde its bad!
[03:53] <hydruid> and i'm not even picky about appearance lol
[03:54] <WebGoddess008> why is it bad
[03:54] <hydruid> however most people hate kde now
[03:54] <hydruid> personally i hate them all, gnome, unity, and kde
[03:54] <mrdeb> bunie, you can change it to show minimize but they try to keep it simple
[03:54] <WebGoddess008> well what do you use hydruid and why
[03:54] <LinuxRules> its to messy I dont use my gui much but would rather go through 1 than 3
[03:54] <obelus> My laptop just started spewing so many errors about pixbuf loader files when I told it to update...
[03:54] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, windows 7 :) and android because they are simple but work
[03:55] <Ford_P> Hello need assistance. My sound all of a sudden stopped working.
[03:55] <WebGoddess008> the thing is that i want to evangelize people to linux, so whatever is best for others i want to be familiar with
[03:55] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, I've always been a hardcore linux fan but the UI is lacking compared to windows
[03:55] <Safe_> Ford_P: I recently had some problems with my audio, what is your specific problem?
[03:55] <Ford_P> It worked on Friday, but doesn't work now
[03:55] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, so for the last couple months i've been using windows 7 as my main desktop with linux VM's
[03:55] <Ford_P> checked the obvious
[03:56] <WebGoddess008> i mean i could probably just go to debian and use generic xfce and figure it out but that isn't helping me evangelize so well
[03:56] <Safe_> Ford_P: have you checked the simple things, as in alsamixer etc?
[03:56] <Ford_P> volume button is turned on
[03:56] <WebGoddess008> well i tried Xubuntu and wasn't impressed by it
[03:56] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, yea but it goes back to what you said earlier.....unity is for regular users, not power users
[03:56] <Ford_P> Need assistance with knowing which chipset I have
[03:56] <WebGoddess008> i think Kubuntu will probably be better for me than Xubuntu
[03:56] <WebGoddess008> just not sure if it is better than unity
[03:56] <Ford_P> I ran lspci -v
[03:57] <hydruid> most people think that way until they use it
[03:57] <hydruid> have fun getting lost in it's k-menu ;)
[03:57] <Ford_P> and I get lot's of text back
[03:57] <WebGoddess008> just i want to solidify on one platform and stick to it since i don't have time to keep fussing with guis
[03:57] <Safe_> Ford_P: My problem was embarrasingly simple, it had switched to hdmi, went into alsamixer, muted hdmi, changed soundcard and muted s/pdif and then it worked.
[03:57] <Ford_P> but don't know what text is important
[03:57] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, well then you're stuck in the same boat as me, most of them are horrible right now
[03:57] <Ford_P> so I should open the alsamixer?
[03:58] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, however most people are either using Unity or Gnome
[03:58] <LinuxRules> Linux is for people who want to be real hackers ( not crackers) Windows users are people who want to use email and facebook
[03:58] <hydruid> LinuxRules, that is not always true
[03:58] <WebGoddess008> i thought unity was gnome
[03:58] <Ford_P> Cool I hope it's embarrassingly simple.
[03:58] <WebGoddess008> you're saying gnome has its own desktop? is that Xubuntu?
[03:58] <hydruid> LinuxRules, my wife prefers linux to check her facebook and email lol
[03:58] <LinuxRules> hydruid I know
[03:58] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, no
[03:59] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, Xubuntu uses XFCE for it's desktoop, Kubuntu uses KDE, Ubuntu uses Unity
[03:59] <WebGoddess008> hrm
[03:59] <mrdeb> you should guve gnome 3 and unity chance
[03:59] <grape_> normally i use default disc writer when i stick a cd in, i need to burn at slow speed however to prevent an error i am getting so i think i have to use brasero to control the speed; however the terms used are different, im assuming i need to choose burn data, but then it gives me the option to burn as image or burn as data, not sure what to do
[03:59] <WebGoddess008> should i just switch to debian and use gnome then lol
[03:59] <mrdeb> give
[03:59] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, if you've ever used Debian or Fedora, or old school versions of Ubuntu then you used gnome
[03:59] <rypervenche> Xfce ftw :)
[04:00] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, up to you, most people are running gnome or unity right now from what i hear
[04:00] <Ford_P> Where did you make the change so that the sound worked?
[04:00] <hydruid> Unity is probably the most user friendly
[04:00] <WebGoddess008> how does debian on gui compare to ubuntu? ubuntu seems more PLUR lol
[04:00] <hydruid> plur?
[04:00] <WebGoddess008> peace~love~unity~respect
[04:00] <mrdeb> they are both goo
[04:00] <mrdeb> good
[04:01] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 until you know how to replace your desktop you dont like no help can be offered play around with aptitude see what it does and you should work it out
[04:01] <mrdeb> unity will work on hte new intel tablets too
[04:01] <grape_> oh and i am burning an iso to install an OS
[04:01] <WebGoddess008> hmm
[04:01] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, you have unity now and you see how it works. Gnome is similiar to the way Microsoft Windows work with a start button and being menu driven
[04:01] <WebGoddess008> well i may just download and install debian
[04:02] <hydruid> WebGoddess008, you might think about that first, ubuntu is made from debian
[04:02] <LinuxRules> Debian is good
[04:02] <hydruid> debian = stable but older apps
[04:02] <hydruid> ubuntu = a little more buggy but new apps
[04:02] <atvr> grape_, choose burn as image
[04:02] <mrdeb> webgo, try it
[04:02] <aBound> Ubuntu = Debian testing = Newer apps.
[04:02] <WebGoddess008> i've been using debian on server side for years
[04:02] <hydruid> but underneath they're very similiar
[04:02] <WebGoddess008> well i can just update the repositories to get newer apps w/debian right?
[04:03] <WebGoddess008> i mean i'd like firefox 9 but ubuntu doesn't have it
[04:03] <mrdeb> or try crunchbang
[04:03] <hydruid> correct
[04:03] <aBound> WebGoddess008, You can grab a PPA to install Firefox 9.0.1.
[04:03] <mrdeb> yes firefox9 works on ubuntu
[04:03] <LinuxRules> hydruid yeah they do work in the same way but there defo not the same under the hood!
[04:03] <hydruid> however by default ubuntu runs say FF8, where debian runs FF7
[04:03] <mrdeb> download it from the site and run it
[04:03] <hydruid> debian just lags a little behind
[04:03] <WebGoddess008> for 11.10? i found it for older ubuntu versions
[04:04] <sagaci> !info firefox
[04:04] <Boom_Farmer> You can find a ppa for nightly, aurora, and beta.
[04:04] <hydruid> LinuxRules, you know that Ubuntu is made from debian right?
[04:04] <aBound> I have 9.0.1. on 10.04 LTS through a PPA.
[04:04] <diuneigh> can someone help me with a small permission problem?
[04:04] <aBound> But I noticed 9.0.1. tends to have a bug in it.
[04:04] <hydruid> diuneigh, post your question
[04:04] <mrdeb> yeah but you dont need need pp
[04:04] <mrdeb> it runs from file
[04:04] <LinuxRules> hydruid thought you were talking about distros in general sorry
[04:05] <aBound> Blah, accidentally closed IRC.
[04:05] <diuneigh> hydruid: I tried to install a program.. but now I do not want it and want to delete it but I can't because I set read only permission.  How can I delete that folder..  sorry I'm a noob.
[04:05] <sagaci> LinuxRules: ubuntu is something like 70% unmodified debian packages anyway
[04:05] <defaultuser> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of the desktop launcher thing that installs with 10.04 netbook?  it runs sooooo slow.
[04:05] <Boom_Farmer> WebGoddess008: Choose from the Mozilla Launchpad PPAs: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam
[04:05] <diuneigh> hydruid:  I gave this command sudo chmod 777 -R (dir name)
[04:05] <Boom_Farmer> defaultuser: Are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[04:06] <LinuxRules> sagaci cheers :)
[04:06] <defaultuser> ubuntu.  gnome.
[04:06] <WebGoddess008> thanks boom
[04:06] <hydruid> diuneigh, sudo chown -R username:root /dir/name
[04:06] <hydruid> ?
[04:06] <WebGoddess008> well for debian should i just get i386 iso then?  i don't think this laptop can do x64
[04:06] <LinuxRules> I wear a red hat personally
[04:06] <Boom_Farmer> defaultuser: Do you like how the 'desktop launcher thing' looks, or would you be interested in a different desktop environment?
[04:06] <hydruid> diuneigh, or maybe, chmod -R 777 /dir/name
[04:06] <WebGoddess008> ugh i don't really like redhat
[04:06] <diuneigh> hydruid: let me try.. thank you..
[04:06] <LinuxRules> its what I work with always worked with red hat servers
[04:07] <defaultuser> boom, i'm brand newb.  i honestly don't care hat it looks like, i just want it work well. : )
[04:07] <BangBusRUs> Okay got everything sorted, just one last thing, I am going to be using Ubuntu on my Lenovo Thinkpad T61 and so how do I get the fingerprint scanner to work?
[04:07] <LinuxRules> why Im here leaning Debian server ways but its always desktop stuff
[04:07] <aBound> defaultuser, Probably best to stick to Ubuntu 10.04 for stability.
[04:07] <hydruid> LinuxRules, so you actually running redhat servers or CentOS ?
[04:08] <LinuxRules> hydruid Im 2nd line support mainly centos but some red hat
[04:08] <hydruid> LinuxRules, linux tech support, doesn't sound like fun lol
[04:08] <defaultuser> aBound: the default launcher is what i'm trying to get rid of.  it's essentially nonfucntional.  a google search yields others with a similar problem, but no solution (that i know how to implement)
[04:08] <Boom_Farmer> defaultuser: Go to a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[04:09] <Boom_Farmer> That will install XFCE
[04:09] <LinuxRules> hydruid Its not bad until you have to call them
[04:09] <aBound> defaultuser, Default launcher as in what Unity?
[04:09] <defaultuser> abound: i have no idea.
[04:09] <LinuxRules> hydruid Its server support to
[04:09] <Ford_P> How do I identify my chipset when I type lspci -v
[04:09] <Ford_P> ?
[04:09] <hydruid> LinuxRules, tech support is bad enough, but with linux there are a million wrong ways to do something
[04:10] <Boom_Farmer> Ford_P: What particular chipset are you looking for? Wifi?
[04:10] <aBound> defaultuser, Haven't a clue what you referred to as a launcher. But if you're referring to the GUI.
[04:10] <Ford_P> sound
[04:10] <Ford_P> Where can I copy and paste the output ?
[04:10] <Ford_P> Can I dump it into the chat?
[04:10] <hydruid> !pastebin | grep Ford_P
[04:10] <Boom_Farmer> Ford_P: pastebin.com
[04:11] <Ford_P> cheers
[04:11] <LinuxRules> hydruid yeah now thats one thing that was brought to my attention, but if someone is stupid enough to break there pc so?
[04:11] <aBound> Ubuntu 11.10 uses Unity as it's default GUI whereas gnome-shell can be installed along the side. Ubuntu 10.04 LTS uses Gnome 2 by default.
[04:11] <defaultuser> abound, im referring to whatever it is that occupies the my entire screen at startup on netbook version.  it has favorites, files, accesories, games, etc, on the left, and a list of applications on the entire rest of the screen
[04:11] <defaultuser> boom_farmer: it says cannot find package xubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <aBound> Ahh, haven't a clue with the netbook version.
[04:12] <Ford_P> So I've posted it to the paste bin. But I think the chipset is Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)
[04:13] <diuneigh> can anyone help me delete a directory that had read permission only?
[04:14] <thiner> how do trouble shoot sound
[04:14] <BangBusRUs> I'm trying to get the fingerprint scanner to work on my thinkpad t61 any ideas?
[04:14] <LinuxRules> diuneigh if the files owened by root no
[04:14] <Boom_Farmer> defaultuser: Did you spell it right? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu
[04:14] <LinuxRules> which it will be if you caqnt delete
[04:15] <diuneigh> linuxRules:  I made the dir myself but I can't delete it now.. sorry I'm a noob..
[04:15] <defaultuser> boom_farmer, command on tha link seems to be working, thank you. : )
[04:16] <LinuxRules> diuneigh where did you make the dir need the full path
[04:16] <WebGoddess008> ... well i'm burning a debian disc and a kubuntu disc so i'm going to see what i like better from livecd and probably go with it
[04:16] <thiner> i had sound then changed it to 5.1 surround sound and now i have no sound
[04:16] <WebGoddess008> ... i'll probably end up using debian since i'm nitpicky about stuff lol
[04:17] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 i you invited me to yours I could have installed whatr was needed
[04:17] <diuneigh> LinuxRules:  $ sudo chmod 777 -R /opt/test/
[04:17] <diuneigh> LinuxRules: that is the command I gave to make it read only
[04:18] <diuneigh> LinuxRules:  Now I want to delete it.
[04:18] <LinuxRules> diuneigh what needs access to that?
[04:18] <diuneigh> LinuxRules:  I tried to install a torrent program
[04:18] <BangBusRUs> Anybody good with thinkpads?
[04:18] <WebGoddess008> ... i just want to be super productive ... unity is slowing me down somewhat, although i love the name of it
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: in what way?
[04:18] <LinuxRules> if its got 777 you should be able to delete no?
[04:19] <diuneigh> terminal says permission denied.
[04:19] <BangBusRUs> just installed ubuntu but the fingerprint scanner isnt working any ideas
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: install xfce4 and log into the XFCE session, should be ok
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: run:  lspci; lsusb      one line will identify the device, use the line to find guides
[04:19] <diuneigh> LinuxRules:  what code do I type to delete it?
[04:19] <BangBusRUs> That was the only thing that drove me back to bindows
[04:19] <BangBusRUs> ok
[04:20] <LinuxRules> diuneigh cant help nothing Ive used
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: for the sake of a crummy fingerprint reader, that's pretty poor
[04:20] <BangBusRUs> Im lazy lol
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: sad
[04:20] <BangBusRUs> j/k
[04:20] <diuneigh> LinuxRules:  ok.. thanks anyway..
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> diuneigh: if the torrent is active it will lock the files. Is that what you are trying to do
[04:21] <diuneigh> ActionParsnip:  no, I never got the program to install properly so now I want to remove it..
[04:21] <rurufufuss> any recommendations for a diary program for ubuntu?
[04:21] <thiner> any one no how to get sound to work
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> diuneigh: what is the app and how did you install it>
[04:22] <diuneigh> ActionParsnip:  can I pm you the link?
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> thiner: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> diuneigh: sure
[04:23] <geoffmcc> rurufufuss: you could check out rednotebook
[04:23] <LinuxRules> domething like apt-get-install-diff-from-yum
[04:24] <LinuxRules> oh sorry you have to use sudo
[04:24] <rurufufuss> geoffmcc: thanks, will try that
[04:24] <BangBusRUs> still nothing
[04:24] <WebGoddess008> ActionParsnip, do i just do "sudo apt-get install xfce4"?
[04:25] <LinuxRules> I like mhow Ubuntu is spreading the Linux but dont dumb it down to much
[04:25] <thiner> under sound setting output is says dunny output
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: yes, then log off, change your session to xfce and log in
[04:25] <WebGoddess008> thanks, i'll try that <3
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: smells and feels like gniome2
[04:26] <WebGoddess008> what about gnome3? lol
[04:26] <LinuxRules> gnome 3 sucks try Debian 6 to see
[04:26] <dr_willis> gnome 1 :)
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: it will be installed, just not running. You can use your Gnome apps without issue in XFCE
[04:26] <pangolin> !ot > LinuxRules
[04:26] <LinuxRules> or Fedora probably 17 by now
[04:27] <WebGoddess008> oh ok
[04:27] <WebGoddess008> well it's installing now so i'll see how i like it when it finishes the install
[04:27] <thiner> fedora is plain looking to me
[04:27] <aBound> Woot, good thing for Linux. :)
[04:27] <Bunie> how do i check the space available on my HDD?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> thiner: if you can give the output of my command, we may be able to advise
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> Bunie: df -h
[04:28] <LinuxRules> have I been blocked I did say Fedora 17 probablly what there at anyway
[04:28] <WebGoddess008> thanks ActionParsnip gonna log off now to try this out ...
[04:28] <Bunie> ActionParsnip: thanks. it kept telling me lost+found has no space left? :S
[04:28] <BangBusRUs> ActionParsnip still nothing bro...
[04:29] <LinuxRules> webgoddess008 if you give me root I will fix
[04:29] <ryoohki> is there a time when firefox 9 will be available for oneiric?
[04:30] <pangolin> LinuxRules: Please stop with the off topic and unhelpful comments
[04:30] <LinuxRules> I was offering help
[04:30] <eyeothemastodon> I am looking for some help regarding the migration of fstab over a downgrade from 64bit to 32bit
[04:30] <Bunie> ryoohki: You could probably install the Beta
[04:30] <thiner> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=e024687983e6218ec8317c5b002aa498f5532e3f when into the terminal and entered it and that is what i came up with
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: are there any bugs reported?
[04:30] <BangBusRUs> LinuxRules any ideas on thinkpad fingerprint scanner?
[04:30] <BangBusRUs> nope
[04:31] <LinuxRules> not really BangBusRUs Im a server man
[04:31] <BangBusRUs> ok thx
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: I suggest you report one then
[04:31] <ryoohki> Bunie: know where the beta is? ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa ?
[04:31] <BangBusRUs> how?
[04:31] <BangBusRUs> I'm very new to linux btw
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> !bug | BangBusRUs
[04:32] <BangBusRUs> huh???
[04:33] <BangBusRUs> 0_o
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: what?
[04:33] <LinuxRules> I know its off topic but any of you Ubuntu guys like any other distros?
[04:33] <BangBusRUs> ok thx
[04:33] <pangolin> err
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> ha oggtopic :)
[04:35] <Logos01> Greetings. Anyone here think they can help me not have to reformat my HTPC? I tried to enable lzo compression on it (using btrfs) -- and it won't boot past the GRUB window. I *can* however get a full/normal session logged on -- but only via NX remote desktop.
[04:35] <diuneigh> does anyone have an idea why ubuntu 11.10 lags when I click on a program?  it takes around 5 second for it to pop up.
[04:35] <Logos01> I can ssh in but as far as all native output, it's all stuck at the GRUB2 window.
[04:35] <Logos01> Any takers?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: what GPU do you use?
[04:36] <dr_willis> grub menu you mean?
[04:36] <Logos01> dr_willis: No. Not grub menu. An error screen related to GRUB but not the menu itself.
[04:36] <LinuxRules> logos01 is that x11 forwarding or your desktop?
[04:36] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: GT440.
[04:36] <Logos01> LinuxRules: Yes and yes. freenx.
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[04:37] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: What makes you think it's the video card?
[04:37] <thiner> new to Linux and cant get my sound to work
[04:37] <Logos01> Also, I'm using the nvidia driver not the noveau driver.
[04:37] <LinuxRules> logos01 your yes and yes does not make sense
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: does the system go to a black screen after grub?
[04:37] <Logos01> LinuxRules: Read up on what freenx is.
[04:37] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: No.
[04:37] <sdz> How can I lower the network priority or set a speed limit for a running process?
[04:37] <Logos01> I don't get to the grub menu at all.
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: what if you hold shift at boot?
[04:37] <Logos01> It freezes at "error: sparse file not allowed. \n\n Press any key to continue..."
[04:38] <Logos01> Haven't tried holding shift at boot, gimme a second.
[04:38] <Logos01> Also, this behavior began when I attempted to enable lzo compression on my root directory.
[04:38] <Logos01> (I've since removed that flag, but it's still behaving this way.)
[04:38] <eyeothemastodon> how does the fstab change with upgrades?
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> eyeothemastodon: upgrades to what?
[04:39] <eyeothemastodon> distro upgrades
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> eyeothemastodon: it's untouched
[04:39] <eyeothemastodon> like from 10.04 to 11.10
[04:39] <LinuxRules> kerenel
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> eyeothemastodon: you'll need to upgrade a LOT to get from Lucid to Oneiric
[04:39] <eyeothemastodon> right
[04:40] <eyeothemastodon> but if i were to backup my fstab
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> eyeothemastodon: if you can hang til April then you can upgrade  directly to 12.04
[04:40] <eyeothemastodon> could i copy it into a fresh installation?
[04:40] <eyeothemastodon> well, mostly i need to go from 64bit to 32
[04:40] <eyeothemastodon> the upgrade is rather irrelevant
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> eyeothemastodon: sure, if you make new partitions the UUIDs will be different but you can work around that
[04:40] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Holding down the shift key had no impact whatsoever. What was the goal of that endeavor?
[04:41] <eyeothemastodon> hmm
[04:41] <WebGoddess008> ActionParsnip, xfce works much better, but i didn't like how Xubuntu was set up
[04:41] <eyeothemastodon> this is for a media server
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: it makes grub show, if you single boot Grub doesn't show but holding SHIFT makes it show
[04:41] <WebGoddess008> thanks, i think xfce will actually get the job done for me, it is more intuitive for power use
[04:41] <eyeothemastodon> so i really am trying to avoid changing my 4 tb of data
[04:41] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Well, it would've showed normally anyhow since I don't have zero timeout on GRUB.
[04:42] <Logos01> But I don't *get to the GRUB menu at all*.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: people disliking Unity / Gnome shell are moving to other DEs like XFCE and such
[04:42] <Logos01> With or without pressing shift.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: then I suggest you boot to live CD and reinstate Grub2 with this: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[04:43] <Saeros> Hello, I was wondering if someone could answer a question for me??  I've created a multiple monitor setup, and once I got it working, I now have two menu bars at the top (the top one is just empty, and the bottom row has the menu and time etc).  I'm using gnome classic on 11.10.  Thanks :)
[04:43] <eyeothemastodon> is there a way to go from 11.4 64bit to 11.10 32bit without changing the partitions?
[04:43] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Why? It goes past GRUB and boots into a fully working instance that I can remote desktop into.
[04:43] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: no
[04:43] <LinuxRules> TTY1 is mthe new gui
[04:43] <eyeothemastodon> just the partitions, i dont care about the data
[04:43] <Logos01> I just can't get any video/audio/console interaction with the device through any means *other* than network.
[04:43] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: no
[04:44] <LinuxRules> the*
[04:44] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: you need to re-install
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: is it just a blank screen?
[04:44] <ikonia> LinuxRules: stop being silly please - only warning you'll get
[04:44] <eyeothemastodon> yes, i am well aware of that
[04:44] <jesse_> sup
[04:44] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Again, no.
[04:44] <Logos01> I will re-describe my issue again.
[04:44] <LinuxRules> ikonia sorry?
[04:44] <eyeothemastodon> but couldn't that be possible without changing any of the disk structure?
[04:44] <BangBusRUs> actionparsnip http://pastebin.com/Waamb7Xn
[04:45] <jesse_> wtf is this???
[04:45] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: why would you have to change the partition size ?
[04:45] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: it's just a re-install, nothing more
[04:45] <Saeros> I'd like to get rid of the blank row ... can anyone help?
[04:45] <eyeothemastodon> ........?
[04:45] <WebGoddess008> i like the "fuzzy" clock
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+package/thinkfinger-tools
[04:46] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: My direct audiovideo output freezes at the GRUB error screen which has the lines "error: compression type 0x2 not supported. \n error: sparse file not allowed. \n \n Press any key to continue..." -- and no keyboard input is acknowledged at all. No audio output is received by my speakers. *HOWEVER* -- it fully boots completely and I am able to remote desktop via NX and/or SSH into the box.
[04:46] <BangBusRUs> thx
[04:46] <eyeothemastodon> ikonia, thats what I was asking. I have an fstab that is setup to automatically merge some drives, took me a while to get that working. and if i could avoid that work again after a re-install, that would be swell
[04:47] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: This all began when I attempted to add the "compress=lzo" flag to my /etc/fstab for my root filesystem (btrfs), but it is persistent even though I have *removed* that flag.
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: I see, I have very basic sound troubleshooting ability. Are there any bugs reported?
[04:47] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: that will need to be re-written as part of the install
[04:47] <ikonia> eyeothemastodon: just take a backup copy of the fstab and use the parts you can on the new install
[04:47] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: I have no clue. It's not a sound issue.
[04:47] <Logos01> I want my computer to boot normally. It isn't.
[04:47] <eyeothemastodon> ikonia, thank you, thats the confirmation i was looking for
[04:47] <Logos01> I need to have it boot with normal audiovideo output and I'd rather not have to reformat the disk to achieve this.
[04:47] <Logos01> The problem began when I attempted to enable lzo compression and ended then. It is not a sound issue.
[04:48] <Logos01> If you are not qualified to help with this, just say so and I will move on.
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: if you read /var/log/Xorg.0.log    it may help, also try removing the boot options:   quiet splash    so you can watch the boot
[04:49] <BangBusRUs> Hey can i just ask one question to all the helpers in here please?
[04:49] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Why would those help if I'm not getting to a point where the bootsplash info would even show up before it freezes?
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: I can suggest things, try less attitude
[04:49] <ikonia> BangBusRUs: if it's about ubuntu - sure
[04:49] <ikonia> BangBusRUs: if not, no
[04:49] <BangBusRUs> Do you guy's get paid?
[04:49] <ikonia> no
[04:49] <BangBusRUs> dang
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: if you tell the boot stuffs to not show, you may see the boot messages
[04:49] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Well, quite honestly, I've explained exactly the same thing to you personally three times now and you keep giving advice that's entirely unrelated to actually addressing my issue.
[04:50] <BangBusRUs> you guys do a great job you should imho
[04:50] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: I DON'T GET TO THE POINT WHERE "BOOT STUFFS" SHOWS UP AT ALL.
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: you are having a boot issue so seeing the boot messages will be useful
[04:50] <Saeros> Maybe I could ask it one more time....   I just installed 11.10, and am using the gnome-classic environment.  I set up dual monitors/desktops (one a Acer 17" and one a 47" LG tv).  Once I got that working properly, I found two rows of menus at the top of the screen.  The first row is blank and the second has all the menus and time etc.  I'd like to remove that blank row, and have no idea how to do it.  Could someone help with that?
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: well you must as sshd starts
[04:50] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: I don't, that's what I've been telling you.
[04:51] <Logos01> The video output freezes *BEFORE* the GRUB menu shows up.
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: so the OS boots to some degree, just it isn;t being shown, the boot option removal will enable you to see what is going on
[04:51] <Logos01> Please actually read my described problems instead of giving half-cocked incompetent advice.
[04:51] <ikonia> Logos01: drop the attiude,
[04:51] <Logos01> ikonia: It would be easier if I didn't have to re-explain myself iteratively and still get people not understanding plain-language.
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: try it, it's free to try
[04:52] <ikonia> Logos01: you're not explaining it very well, that's why
[04:52] <ikonia> Logos01: try again, I'm paying full attention to you now
[04:52] <Logos01> ikonia: It's simple to understand. I explained it in exact language. Scroll up.
[04:52] <ikonia> Logos01: I don't have it in my buffer
[04:52] <Logos01>  My direct audiovideo output freezes at the GRUB error screen which has the lines "error:
[04:52] <Logos01>                  compression type 0x2 not supported. \n error: sparse file not allowed. \n \n Press any key to continue..." --
[04:53] <Logos01>                  and no keyboard input is acknowledged at all. No audio output is received by my speakers. *HOWEVER* -- it
[04:53] <Logos01>                  fully boots completely and I am able to remote desktop via NX and/or SSH into the box.
[04:53] <BangBusRUs> actionparsnip how do i check if it installed the thinkfinger tools?
[04:53] <FloodBot1> Logos01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <Logos01> ... that was originally one line. My apologies; irssi screwed up the CNP.
[04:53] <ikonia> Logos01: that's ot grub
[04:53] <Logos01> ikonia: Yes, actually, it is.
[04:53] <ikonia> ont
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: you will see it in the output of:  dpkg -l | grep finger
[04:53] <ikonia> ughh, "not"
[04:53] <Logos01> It's not the GRUB *menu* but I assure you it's GRUB.
[04:53]  * WebGoddess008 really likes XFCE *default* install...not much of a fan of xubuntu default install
[04:54] <BangBusRUs> i dont understand dpkg?
[04:54] <Safe_> Does it matter where I put grub on the hard drive if I have multiple partitions? Should I just put it in root, as in /dev/sdc, or in /dev/sdc6 (where ubuntu is)
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: you said you could SSH to the system, right>
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> Safe_: usually the mbr is used
[04:55] <SVNDR> Whats the difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu 2D?
[04:55] <TrD> 1D
[04:55] <TrD> :p
[04:55] <aBound> You mean Unity 3D and Unity 2D?
[04:55] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Yes, I can ssh in.
[04:55] <Safe_> ActionParsnip: Installing it now and need to select device for boot loader installation, mbr is not chooseable
[04:55] <Logos01> But the video out freezes up before I get to the GRUB menu.
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: ubuntu uses a 3D accellerated Unity with effects and junk. Unity2D uses metacity, is lighter and doesn't need 3d accelleration
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Safe_: the MBR should be an option
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: so therefore the OS is booting and Grub is doing it;s thing
[04:56] <aBound> Macbuntu is pretty interesting.
[04:56] <Logos01> Yes.
[04:56] <Logos01> One would assume.
[04:57] <Sebastien> is it me or ubuntu server is no more free...
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: so the screen is being skewed by te boot splash which is having issues displaying. If you take that out you will boot in text mode which ANY hardware  can do
[04:57] <BangBusRUs> ii  libofa0                                0.9.3-3.1                               Library for acoustic fingerprinting
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: you can then see where it stops and what is goingon
[04:57] <Safe_> ActionParsnip: It really isn't though. Have multiple drives with multiple OS's and multiple partitions (yes, messy I know) so I figured I could just have grub on this hard drive
[04:57] <aBound> Ubuntu server is free.
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: then it's not installed
[04:57] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: who are youtalking to ?
[04:57] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sorry, nt you
[04:57] <BangBusRUs> well how do i install it?
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> Safe_: that's fine, just tell the BIOS to boot that drive
[04:58] <BangBusRUs> I downloaded the package and installed it
[04:58] <ikonia> BangBusRUs: visit ubuntu.com and read
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: I gave a link, it has debs for a lot of architectures, grab the one matching yours
[04:58] <ikonia> BangBusRUs: what package
[04:58] <Safe_> ActionParsnip: That's what I had in mind, so do I put it in sdc or sdc6? :)
[04:58] <Saeros> Thanks
[04:58] <Sebastien> aBound why does it says its 300 something dollars.
[04:58] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: could that be the reason why some of my wine programs dont run so fast
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> Safe_: try it, you can always boot to live CD and put the boot loader  elsewhere there
[04:58] <ikonia> Sebastien: where on ubuntu.com does it say ubuntu server is$$300 ?
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: possibly
[04:59] <aBound> Sebastien, You must be looking at the other Ubuntu Servers the ones for business.
[04:59] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: cheers, i might try in 2D soon
[04:59] <geoffmcc> Sebastien: i forget what its called, but its some kind of cloud service ubuntu is offering for $$ now, but ubuntu server is still free
[04:59] <ikonia> there isn't one for business - it's the same
[04:59] <BangBusRUs> thinkfinger-tools_0.3+r118-0ubuntu5_i386
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: are you using 32bit ubuntu?
[04:59] <aBound> Sebastien, Ubuntu Advantage Advanced Server and such.
[04:59] <BangBusRUs> yes
[04:59] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: "so the screen is being skewed by te boot splash which is having issues displaying." <-- no.
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: sounds good then
[05:00] <Logos01> That *can't* be right, because it isn't *GETTING* to the bootsplash.
[05:00] <Logos01> It freezes before the GRUB menu shows up.
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: what is on screen during boot?
[05:00] <BangBusRUs> Well why isnt it installed then?
[05:00] <Logos01> The boot splash **cannot** interact with it.
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: it must get past grub or you wouldn't be able to ssh as the service wouldnt get started
[05:00] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: As I've said to you directly four times now, and about five times besides that, a GRUB error.
[05:00] <aBound> Sebastien, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/download
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: grub is succesful
[05:01] <Logos01> ActionParsnip: Yes, but that's where the error is occurring.
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: I don't get why you just won't try it, its a simple text file edit and one command
[05:01] <Logos01> Because that's where it freezes. BEFORE the GRUB menu comes up.
[05:01] <oneliner> grub->kernel->init->services ,.. if services then grub==true
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: it can't be as ssh starts
[05:01] <oneliner> then you cant ssh into a machine that hasent gotten past grub
[05:01] <Logos01> It has to be because that's where it's goddamned happening.
[05:02] <oneliner> cant :)
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> Logos01: its not. If grub failed then you WOULDN'T be able to ssh
[05:02] <Logos01> Fuck it. You people are incompetent. Goodbye.
[05:02] <geoffmcc> hmm
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> some people just won't be told
[05:02] <BangBusRUs> thinkfinger-tools_0.3+r118-0ubuntu5_i386 thats what i dl and installed
[05:03] <aBound> brb
[05:03] <oneliner> funny how we tend to criticise in others what we should remedy in ourselves :)
[05:04] <BangBusRUs> Okso how do i check if the thinkfinger tools got installed please???
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: double click the deb file...
[05:04] <BangBusRUs> i did
[05:05] <ActionParsnip> BangBusRUs: and was the process smooth?
[05:05] <n2diy> I just upgraded an Xubuntu 10.10 box to Ubuntu 11.10, and now Korganizer won't run. The Akonadi PIM service is not operational. I reinstalled both, but still no joy.
[05:05] <BangBusRUs> yes
[05:06] <edbian> Has anyone ever seen funny A.I.
[05:06] <ikonia> edbian: you know you're in #ubuntu right ?
[05:06] <edbian> ikonia, whooops!
[05:06] <edbian> :P
[05:06] <ikonia> :)
[05:06] <BangBusRUs> so how do i use it now?
[05:07] <bocbagock> Hello! Got an audio question
[05:07] <aBound> Good thing for 10.04 being stable.
[05:07] <bocbagock> I used a bluetooth headphone and afterwards my regular audio doesn't work anymore
[05:08] <bocbagock> (having stopped using the bluetooth headphones)
[05:10] <curran> anyone here have comcast and know a thing or two about networking?
[05:10] <ikonia> curran:
[05:11] <ikonia> curran:
[05:11] <ikonia> oop
[05:11] <curran> Trying to get my wireless modem to release dhcp through coax. line.
[05:11] <ikonia> curran: ##networking maybe a better place for general network chatter
[05:11] <curran> I don't get much help there.
[05:11] <curran> just looking for someone
[05:11] <ikonia> curran: we only deal with ubuntu here
[05:11] <curran> might know
[05:11] <curran> I'm using ubuntu
[05:12] <ikonia> curran: it's not an ubuntu issue
[05:12] <ikonia> curran: the people in ##networking explained what you needed to do at a high level, I suggest following up if you need more detail
[05:13] <curran> yeah, not accurate at all
[05:14] <curran> hence why I'm looking elsewhere
[05:14] <ikonia> it was fine
[05:14] <curran> nevermind I guess
[05:14] <ikonia> I suggest following up in there, this is for ubuntu support, not networking
[05:14] <bocbagock> any help on the bluetooth audio in ubuntu 11.10 question?
[05:14] <SVNDR> I only installed Ubuntu yesterday and i already have over 300 updates i need to do.. is that normal?
[05:14] <curran> yep
[05:15] <iceroot> SVNDR: because you installed a version from october 2011
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: which release?
[05:15] <|multipass|> is there a way to disable the panel on the top of the screen from capuring the current programs file, edit, etc-- and put i back on the actual application window?
[05:16] <SVNDR> iceroot and ActionParsnip: i installed 11.10
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: then you have 3 months of updates to install, so yes. If you throw on a lot of apps it will increase the packages you need to update
[05:16] <antipragmatist> Hi.
[05:17] <bocbagock> is there a better place to go for ubuntu audio questions?
[05:18] <iceroot> bocbagock: this channel is ok
[05:18] <mcgrete> My first time using freenode for support.  Not sure how and when to post question... don't wish to interrupt others...  Where can I find a 'how to' so that I play nice?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> mcgrete: ask away, if anyone can answer, they will
[05:18] <bocbagock> iceroot: so I just got some bluetooth headphones, set them up, disconnected and I can't get audio back through the speakers
[05:18] <bocbagock> I've restarted
[05:18] <iceroot> mcgrete: just fell free to post your questions here, a good idea is to put the question in one line with usefull details, also put the name on front if you are talking to someone
[05:19] <iceroot> bocbagock: have a look at "alsamixer" is something is muted
[05:19] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: Wouldnt the updates download with the ISO or is that not how it works?.. new to Ubuntu by the way
[05:19] <bocbagock> iceroot: did that, nothing was muted
[05:19] <iceroot> SVNDR: at the installation you can choose "download new software during installation process"
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: its an option during install but I'm not sure how far it updates
[05:20] <iceroot> SVNDR: imo its disabled by default
[05:20] <w30> mcgrete, when you reply just put their name at the start of your statement so the intended receiver will have it highlighted for him/her
[05:20] <mcgrete> Thanks!  In short, I have two copies of 10.04LTS installed, both with separate root and home partitions.  I use one to 'play' and learn installation of software, etc.  I use the 2nd 'good' version to do it right when I figure it out.  Now, I want to copy 'good' root and home to 'play' as I have messed up 'play'.  What is the best way to do this without messing up MBR, UUID, etc?  I am a bit...
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> yes its default disabled. I like to update myself after install
[05:20] <mcgrete> ...of a noob.  Thanks!
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> mcgrete: could use rsync in a liveCD
[05:21] <SVNDR> iceroot: damn, wish i seen that one.. alright, well are there certain MAIN updates i should do, like protection and such, or should i just do them all and get it done with?
[05:21] <iceroot> mcgrete: you are only interested in the personal data of the users? or also system-configs?
[05:21] <iceroot> SVNDR: all
[05:21] <geoffmcc> SVNDR: there is an option to install updates during install, but for me even if i select it, i have about 275 updates that need downloading
[05:21] <geoffmcc> after install
[05:21] <mcgrete> For home, simple files.  For root, I want all system configs.
[05:22] <iceroot> geoffmcc: normally that should not happen
[05:22] <SVNDR> iceroot: alrite will do
[05:22] <iceroot> mcgrete: all system-configs is hard
[05:22] <SVNDR> geoffmcc: ok, sounds odd lol.. guess Ubuntu likes to keep you updated though, cant be too bad
[05:22] <iceroot> mcgrete: because the other system have system configs as well, so you have to merge/overwrite them
[05:22] <geoffmcc> iceroot: it has only ever worked for me once, i had wondered about it.
[05:22] <mcgrete> I was afraid of that.  Is it best to make a backup of 'play' when it is a fresh install, and then restore?
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> mcgrete: in liveCD you can rsync the files from one machine to the on you are booting the liveCD to
[05:23] <iceroot> geoffmcc: i will put that on my bug-list and will do some testing about that, thank you for the info
[05:24] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: i dont think its a good idea to ust copy /etc and so on to another system which maybe has different update-versions and different package-selections
[05:24] <geoffmcc> iceroot: another thing too, maybe it normal. but sometimes when i boot usb to install, it somehow remembers my network info (as i use manual) and sometimes when i get to hostname it wont let me choose what i had before reinstall, it says its in use. never really knew what to report that against, if anything
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: I guess
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: but if the binaries are copied too it could work
[05:24] <mcgrete> iceroot/geoffmcc: I just started, so a new install is not a big deal at this point.  Want to know for future reference.  So, if there is no bug, would merge/overwrite be the way to go?  I was going to use 'dd' command, and modify the fstab file (and others)?
[05:25] <SVNDR> Does Ubuntu have an option of downloading updates automatically?
[05:25] <kanyl> Why does this not write to testfile? "tail -f file | grep search >> testfile", but this does: "tail -f file  >> test"
[05:25] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: then a complete dd should be better imo (or a complete backup)
[05:25] <iceroot> SVNDR: yes but i would not use that
[05:25] <bocbagock> iceroot: anything else to try?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: yeah i'd go that way too
[05:25] <mcgrete> iceroot: what is 'imo'?
[05:26] <iceroot> kanyl: (imo) because grep is not using stdout
[05:26] <bfrazier_> does anyone know how I could get firefox to play mp4 videos?
[05:26] <iceroot> mcgrete: in my opinion
[05:26] <kanyl> iceroot: Any idea how I can make it work? :>
[05:26] <w30> mcgrete, I allways cp messwithme.config messwithme.config.orig before I messwith...
[05:26] <SVNDR> iceroot: ok? just for further knowledge, where can i find the option?
[05:27] <iceroot> kanyl: hm my grep is using stdout, so it should work
[05:27] <iceroot> SVNDR: in the software-center
[05:27] <SVNDR> iceroot: thanks again
[05:27] <iceroot> SVNDR: there is "ust inform", "download and inform" , "do nothing" and "automaticly install"
[05:27] <w30> mcgrete, it's a lot easier to cat .config.orig > .config than mess with an editor
[05:27] <iceroot> kanyl: maybe have a look at #bash
[05:28] <kanyl> iceroot: okay
[05:28] <ubuntugirl> hey people, could anyone tell me how i go about opening the terminal in 11.10?
[05:28] <SVNDR> iceroot: alright mate cheers
[05:28] <ubuntugirl> im totally lost after the new desktop environment came along
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> ubuntugirl: press CTRL+ALT+T
[05:28] <ubuntugirl> also is there a way to switch back to the old view?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> ubuntugirl: there is a hack way
[05:29] <iceroot> !nounity | ubuntugirl
[05:29] <mcgrete> w30: being a noob, I am not sure which/where/howmany config files there are to modify.  I am willing to learn (for long term solution), but short term it appears that fresh install and backup is better way to go until I am more knowledgable.
[05:29] <iceroot> mcgrete: i think so too
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> ubuntugirl: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[05:29]  * ubuntugirl hugs ActionParsnip
[05:29] <ubuntugirl> thanks
[05:29] <ubuntugirl> worked
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> ubuntugirl: works in all DEs
[05:29] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: even lxde :) great
[05:30] <aBound> Hugs
[05:30] <mcgrete> iceroot: for complete dd, will that modify my UUID or mess up grub?  Will I need to modify fstab or others?
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: indeedy, although if you use terminal a lot I'd advise guake, tilda or yakuake
[05:30]  * ActionParsnip loves guake
[05:30] <iceroot> mcgrete: dd will not mess anything, it will contain grub and the uuid will be the same
[05:31] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: normally i have terminator in autostart but quake is nice too
[05:31] <w30> mcgrete, no one ever did wrong by having backups; complete backups or just todays changes are both awfully handy to have.
[05:31] <iceroot> !backup | mcgrete
[05:34] <mcgrete> iceroot/w30: My intention with two installs of identical OS was to have a backup.  Perhaps a different way of doing it... I will try 'dd' and a more conventional backup.  Thanks ubottu for the links.
[05:35] <iceroot> mcgrete: i like "having a virtual machine" for testing
[05:36] <mcgrete> iceroot:  I will look into that as well.
[05:36] <iceroot> mcgrete: i do a lot of testing and not always the system likes that, so i use the snapshot-function of virtualbox to have back a running system very fast
[05:36] <nixnine> anyone know what this error at boot means and how to fix it: "Could not update ICEauthority file/home/test/.ICEauthority"
[05:36] <iceroot> !vbox | mcgrete
[05:38] <antipragmatist> geez, 1ghz cpu
[05:39] <mcgrete> ubottu/iceroot: one of my main issues is trying to install Python 2.7 in 10.04LTS, as 2.6 has some bugs that aren't fixed until 2.7.  Any suggestions on how to do this?  I have seen conflicting info on web.  Tried virtualenv, but I had issues with some apparent modules that were not installed properly.  Wasn't sure if it was python 2.7 distro...
[05:40] <iceroot> !info python lucid
[05:40] <iceroot> !info python2.7 lucid-
[05:40] <iceroot> !info python2.7 lucid
[05:40] <antipragmatist> I am confused about
[05:40] <aBound> Can LightDM be installed for 10.04?
[05:41] <iceroot> hm strange, 12.04 has python2.7
[05:41] <iceroot> !info python3 lucid
[05:42] <iceroot> !backports | mcgrete
[05:42] <aBound> iceroot, Still in Alpha and daily builds.
[05:42] <w30> mcgrete, one trick for getting a user home back to a original stat is to create a new yser; copy the new users home to the messed up home and then change the ownership back to the messed up users name and group.
[05:42] <iceroot> !info python2.7 natty
[05:42] <iceroot> mcgrete: natty has python 2.7 so i guess python2.7 will be in the backports for lucid
[05:43] <w30> mcgrete, that only makes it like a new install for that one user.
[05:44] <iceroot> !info python2.7 lucid-backports
[05:46] <iceroot> mcgrete: if you really need python 2.7 you should use the python2.7 packages directly from 10.10 (you should test that setup first in a vm)
[05:47] <vegabond> hey friends.. how to use my webcam on ubuntu 10.10? plz help
[05:47] <mcgrete> iceroot: in that case, I have 11.10 installed already (not in vm though).  Any risk to use 11.10 instead of 10.10?
[05:47] <iceroot> vegabond: use or install?
[05:47] <iceroot> mcgrete: not really
[05:48] <iceroot> mcgrete: both are stable-releases and 11.10 comes with newer (not so long) tested software
[05:48] <vegabond> what's the name of softwere?
[05:48] <mcgrete> iceroot: some web talk indicates to install python from source with 'sudo make altinstall'.  Any comment on this?
[05:48] <iceroot> vegabond: skype, cheese
[05:48] <iceroot> mcgrete: imo its not a good idea to install something from source
[05:48] <iceroot> mcgrete: because you dont get automaticly updates for that
[05:49] <iceroot> mcgrete: and the deinstallation is not always easy
[05:49] <pancho> anyone here have any idea how to stop the screen from dimming every 10 seconds when I'm on battery pwr and not moving my mouse  in 11.10? I looked online for documentation and tried going to system settings, but the "power" option there only sets things like what to do when the lid is closed, etc...
[05:49] <vegabond> i've install skype but webcab do not working
[05:49] <mcgrete> iceroot: thanks for the help. Have a good day/evening.
[05:49] <iceroot> mcgrete: same to you
[05:49] <iceroot> vegabond: is the webcam seen by skype?
[05:50] <vegabond> no?
[05:50] <iceroot> vegabond: can you select the cam there?
[05:50] <vegabond> no
[05:51] <iceroot> vegabond: when it is a us-webcam please remove it, plug it in again and post the outout of "dmesg"
[05:51] <iceroot> !paste | vegabond
[05:55] <freakspire> whats up!
[05:56] <TrD> hi freakspire
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> vegabond: does it work in cheese?
[05:57] <freakspire> so whats new here?
[05:58] <aBound> Compiling is a pain. :P
[05:58] <antipragmatist> goodnight, i am off to bed for my night time slumber
[06:00] <aBound> Looks like the room quiet down a bit.
[06:00] <mcgrete> iceroot:  can't find virtualbox amd64 except on virtualbox website; they have binary 'VirtualBox-4.1.8-75467-OSX.dmg   Is it OK to use this binary?  How to install?
[06:00] <somsip> mcgrete: there is a PPA that workls fine for me
[06:00] <aBound> .dmg is a Mac OS X format.
[06:01] <aBound> God dang it.
[06:02] <iceroot> mcgrete: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[06:02] <somsip> mcgrete: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/virtualbox-4-1-8-released-and-ubuntu-11-1011-04-installation-instructions-included.html
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> mcgrete: virtualbox is in the normal repos
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> !info virtualbox-ose
[06:02] <iceroot> !repos | mcgrete
[06:02] <iceroot> !info virtualbox lucid
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> mcgrete: if you have te universe repo enabled, it can be installed. OSE has no native USB access
[06:02] <iceroot> !info virtualbox-ose lucid
[06:02] <iceroot> mcgrete: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[06:03] <mcgrete> iceroot: I only find x86 versions.  Am i missing something?
[06:03] <aBound> brb
[06:03] <iceroot> mcgrete: use apt-get it will use the amd64 version
[06:03] <iceroot> mcgrete: you dont have to search on the net for software, just use apt-get/software-center
[06:03] <iceroot> mcgrete: also reasd the link from ubottu about repos
[06:04] <mcgrete> iceroot: thanks, I will use apt-get more often.  Was confused by not seeing amd64 in synaptic
[06:04] <iceroot> mcgrete: the packages in synaptic dont have amd64 in there name but synaptic will automaticly pick the architecture you need
[06:04] <mcgrete> iceroot: good to know!
[06:04] <iceroot> mcgrete: you will see, installing software in ubuntu is much more easier then on windows
[06:05] <iceroot> mcgrete: and much more save because you only installed software from signed secure places
[06:05] <iceroot> mcgrete: if you are only using the default ubuntu-repos
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> mcgrete: read what ubottu said (hint: in the brackets at the end)
[06:05] <chid> why is this happening?
[06:05] <chid> http://i.imgur.com/nmny4.png
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> chid: tried a different font?
[06:06] <freakspire> anyone have a problem while installing something?
[06:06] <iceroot> freakspire: no
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> freakspire: none
[06:06] <iceroot> freakspire: pleae post usefull questions with usefull detauils so we dont have to guess
[06:07] <chid> ActionParsnip: hmm this is happening across all my programs
[06:07] <chid> with terminal it's p's and .'s on chrome
[06:07] <mcgrete> iceroot: I only use windows for work - forced to...  Ubuntu is great!  Thanks again.
[06:07] <iceroot> mcgrete: you are welcome
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> chid: is it all the letters in all font faces>
[06:08] <chid> different letters in different font faces
[06:08] <chid> first noticed it when I used thunderbird
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> hmmm
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> chid: what is the output of:  cat /etc/lsb-release   use a pastebin to host or install pastebinit and run:   pastebinit /etc/lsb-release
[06:09] <chid> 11/1-
[06:09] <chid> 11.10*
[06:09] <chid> oh yeah
[06:10] <chid> I also have another problem, control+numpad 3 (with numlock off), doesn't work as expected
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> chid: does it happen as all users? Make a new user if you need
[06:11] <chid> you mean the problem with font face?
[06:11] <chid> [ 1623.103286] compiz[1542]: segfault at 656e774f ip 00b37a67 sp bf90832c error 4 in libc-2.13.so[a24000+176000]
[06:11] <chid> probably has something to do with this, should fix itself with restart
[06:11] <chid> thanks ActionParsnip =)
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> chid: I suggest you report a bug too
[06:13] <chid> alright, I'll do it if it happens again
[06:14] <chid> one last question, page up doesn't work on my laptop 5750g aspire one, [ 9903.273696] atkbd serio0: Use 'setkeycodes e060 <keycode>' to make it known.
[06:15] <gantner> anyone understand how to mount a HFS+ volume manually for w/r? Getting wrong FS type and not sure what I'm doing wrong
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> !hfs
[06:15] <gantner> thank ubotto
[06:17] <gantner> hmmm, did I just thank a bot?
[06:17] <chid> you should be thanking ActionParsnip gantner  :P
[06:17] <slugzzz> Hey all... how can I install ubuntu to dual boot with OSX on a macbook?
[06:17] <gantner> Thanks ActionParsnip!!
[06:17] <lalagirl> slugzzz it's better if you just use a virtual machine
[06:18] <slugzzz> I would.... but this is a very old macbook... >5 years.
[06:18] <peepsalot> are there any graphing calculator applications you guys recommend?
[06:18] <lalagirl> slugzzz oh … nevermind… good luck with that...
[06:18] <slugzzz> peepsalot, what sort of graphing calculator are you looking for?
[06:18] <slugzzz> I use Octave.... but that might be too heavy.
[06:19] <chid> peepsalot: maxima?
[06:19] <chid> you probably want something maple like
[06:19] <chid> look into alternatives for maple for linux
[06:19] <gantner> ack. 'Event not found' for !hfs...
[06:19] <peepsalot> slugzzz, uh, cartesian?  just simple y = f(x)
[06:19] <peepsalot> something with a nice intuitive gui preferably
[06:22] <Gallomimia> someone was telling me about nomodeset for video yesterday... refresh my memory please? something to make it compatible with the video, since my hw won't accept any graphical displays.
[06:22] <somsip> !nomodeset | Gallomimia
[06:23] <n2diy> I just upgraded an Xubuntu 10.10 box to Ubuntu 11.10, and now Korganizer won't run. The Akonadi PIM service is not operational. I reinstalled both, but still no joy.
[06:23] <newbie007> hi, I'm new to ubuntu. I'm just installing it and I see in the top right corner there is an icon to allow me to chat/set my status. I dislike this idea. How can I remove this permenatly?
[06:24] <n2diy> newbie007, right click on it, and then select delete?
[06:24] <SVNDR> newbie007: or possibly, clear, but im not sure either
[06:25] <SVNDR> newbie to ubuntu here aswell lol
[06:25] <christopher9812> how do I copy and paste the mbr(grub2) so it will work after I install windows?
[06:25] <|multipass|> When i try to apply my desktop managment settings with dual montiors in amdcccle, the program crashes. Im running it from terminal, and there is no error report. Any ideas?
[06:26] <n2diy> newbie007,  I'm new too, coming from Xubuntu. My idea would have worked there, but doesn't here.
[06:26] <newbie007> I mean, I do not want my OS to have an icon showing "Away","Busy" etc.. I want this icon gone. And if possible I want to ensure that this data is not stored nor transmitted
[06:26] <urlin2u> !grub | christopher9812
[06:27] <Gallomimia> somsip: thanks. works even for debian
[06:27] <somsip> Gallomimia: np
[06:28] <n2diy> newbie007, if I left click on the icon, and then right click on available, available is unmarked?
[06:28] <Gallomimia> heh. was really rusty with vi since i had to ssh into the box in question
[06:28] <Gallomimia> gotta refresh vi commands :/
[06:28] <n2diy> I just upgraded an Xubuntu 10.10 box to Ubuntu 11.10, and now Korganizer won't run. The Akonadi PIM service is not operational. I reinstalled both, but still no joy.
[06:29] <newbie007> n2diy: I can't seem to set any status, I have never configured it.
[06:30] <SVNDR> Is it just me or does my CPU feel like its on fire when im running Ubuntu?? ever since i installed it my laptop gets mighty hot, almost enough to burn me.. i have 3GB RAM, and a pretty decent video card (if that matter)..
[06:30] <newbie007> honesty telling the OS your facebook/twitter/icq/aim/msn/skype account(s) is the last thing I would do
[06:30] <n2diy> newbie007, I didn't configure it either, I'm just playing with it the way it came with my upgrade from Xubuntu 10.10.
[06:30] <Gallomimia> hah
[06:30] <Gallomimia> good point
[06:30] <newbie007> I can't seem to click it
[06:30] <Gallomimia> at least i'm running adium, which is not the OS but close enough
[06:31] <chid> SVNDR: hehe my laptop is the same
[06:31] <chid> nice and cool in windows with plenty of things running
[06:31] <Gallomimia> windows originally?
[06:32] <chid> burns up with linux just sitting there :)
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: possibly some acpi bug
[06:32] <Gallomimia> yeah mine's a mac. i'm going to try ubuntu on it and see if the same thing happens
[06:32] <n2diy> newbie007, so, you can't get to logout or shutdown either?
[06:32] <chid> I disabled my graphics card and it's a lot cooler now
[06:32] <newbie007> I could do that
[06:32] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: how would i check that??
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: search the existing bugs
[06:33] <newbie007> that is a different icon the shape of a gear with a line. The mail icon handels chatting
[06:33] <peepsalot> extcalc is a decent graphing calculator
[06:33] <n2diy> newbie007, ok, they are in the same drop down box is available and busy are here.
[06:33] <Gallomimia> damn. nomodeset doesn't do anything. i have grub installed and working it seems
[06:33] <SVNDR> chid: yea, windows is fine, a little heat when im running it full blown, but as soon as i start Ubuntu it feels hot enough to cook an egg on.. lol
[06:33] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: ok i will
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: also check for BIOS updates
[06:33] <chid> hahah exactly, disabling graphics card reduced the power draw by 50% :)
[06:34] <atvr> SVNDR, does the fans work ??
[06:34] <chid> anyway, cya, thanks for the help ActionParsnip
[06:34] <dadinck> I think it has something to do with windows has economy mode for laptops. Linux doesn't have that, afaik. Consequently, linux runs REAL FAST.
[06:34] <Gallomimia> more importantly does the fan go full speed?
[06:34] <SVNDR> atvr: yea, fans are fine.. only one small one, but it works fine (normally)
[06:34] <SVNDR> atvr: as in, its working at the moment, but its so hot it blowing hot air out
[06:34] <Gallomimia> yeah. i don't know if linux lets the newer cpu's clock down like apple and m$ OS's do
[06:35] <dadinck> I have a USB fan cradle for my laptop.
[06:35] <atvr> ActionParsnip, i think SVNDR issue, wouldnt be a bios issue, because like he said that windows was working fine whit no extreme heat, so the issu might be with ubuntu itself
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> atvr: maybe the linux kernel needs the update
[06:37] <atvr> ActionParsnip, maybe i am new to ubuntu/linux, i was just saying that, it make sens to me that its not a bios issue
[06:37] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: would you say Ubutnu relies more on graphic performance, or windows vista?
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> atvr: there may be an ACPI fix which may not show its head so much in Windows but may help Linux greatly
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: depends on config
[06:38] <horsey> Hello, I am running 10.04 (LTS) on servers, and I see that I've been lagging with the security updates. Is there a way I can cherry pick updates without having to apply them all blindly?
[06:38] <firstlast> hello all
[06:38] <atvr> SVNDR, did you try to make some research about your specific issue over internet (google) i mean specific by search for your specific laptop model
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: enable all Compiz add ons and such and run a system and it will need more than one running flwm on its own
[06:39] <firstlast> trying to get three monitors working here, in ubuntu 10.10
[06:39] <karl-augustt> hi, is there a complete pdf  document on how to compile arch linux?
[06:39] <firstlast> two video cards, nvidia gtx 260 and nvidia 6200, but they don't seem to playing nicely with each other
[06:39] <Sloofus> Hey folks. Just installed the latest version dual booting with win7. Ubuntu seems to be freezing everytime I boot unless I have an ethernet cable plugged in. Anyone hear of such a thing?
[06:39] <pangolin> karl-augustt: #archlinux
[06:39] <karl-augustt> hi, is there a complete pdf  document on how to compile gentoo linux?
[06:39] <urgodfather> can someone please help me figure out why my logitech wireless keyboard/mouse combo wont work with 11.04
[06:39] <firstlast> has anyone gotten two video cards working on a ubuntu desktop?
[06:40] <Flannel> karl-augustt: You should ask in #gentoo
[06:40] <urlin2u> karl-augustt, on the web there is a install page you could pdf it.
[06:40] <SVNDR> atvr: yea i googled it earlier, i found one guy saying the exact some thing as me.. a person said something in return about 'scailing_max_freq' ?
[06:40] <karl-augustt> urlin2u, which page? please help
[06:41] <atvr> SVNDR, i dont know, i am new to this :) i was just trying to help you with what i know
[06:42] <Mechdave> karl-augustt, Here we only support Ubuntu systems. You will need to refer to the revelant chat rooms for the others
[06:42] <urlin2u> karl-augustt, save to your computer as a print use the pdf option. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide
[06:42] <firstlast> anyone?
[06:42] <urgodfather> firstlast: like on board and pci
[06:42] <urgodfather> ?
[06:42] <firstlast> nope, pci-e and pci
[06:43] <urgodfather> negative ghost rider
[06:43] <acid-melt-system> hello
[06:43] <urgodfather> never tried
[06:43] <SVNDR> atvr: not a problem
[06:43] <firstlast> urgodfather: sorry, forgot to preface with your name, gtx 260 is PCI-E and 6200 is old-fashioned PCI
[06:43] <urgodfather> both nvidia?
[06:43] <firstlast> urgodfather: yes
[06:44] <karl-augustt> urlin2u, thanks!
[06:44] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Ly6b8YJu
[06:44] <n2diy> I just upgraded an Xubuntu 10.10 box to Ubuntu 11.10, and now Korganizer won't run. The Akonadi PIM service is not operational. I reinstalled both, but still no joy.
[06:44] <urlin2u> karl-augustt, cool.
[06:44] <atvr> SVNDR, wich ubuntu version do you have ?
[06:44] <acid-melt-system> anybody tried out ubuntu 12.04 alpha or even upgrade ?
[06:44] <iceroot> acid-melt-system: #ubuntu+1
[06:44] <Mechdave> n2diy, They are KDE applications yes?
[06:44] <SVNDR> atvr: 11.10
[06:44] <urlin2u> acid-melt-system, there is a actual channel #ubuntu+1
[06:45] <acid-melt-system> ok
[06:45] <acid-melt-system> so should go there right ?
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> acid-melt-system: I am running it now
[06:45] <acid-melt-system> same here
[06:45] <n2diy> Mechdave, yes sir.
[06:45] <urlin2u> acid-melt-system, better info probably.
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> acid-melt-system: yes, pre-release is offtopic here until release day
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: why do I need that?
[06:46] <urgodfather> firstlast: do both work at boot i.e. bios?
[06:47] <firstlast> urgodfather: not sure what you mean, but both are recognized and I have gotten both cards to work individually, by commenting out screens in my xorg.conf. Basically, on their own, they work, but when all 3 screens (2 from gtx 260, 1 from 6200) are in my xorg.conf, X won't start
[06:47] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: you probably dont, but do you know what the difference between temp1 and temp2 are?
[06:47] <Mechdave> n2diy, Ok you may be better off installing Kubuntu from http://www.kubuntu.org/
[06:47] <atvr> SVNDR, check that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1876117 maybe it will help you :)
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: are you using dual core cpu?
[06:48] <Mechdave> n2diy, or just install the applications you need in Ubuntu, although this installs lots of KDE libraries as well
[06:48] <almoxarife> I seem to have 100k more ram cruff today than yesterday, no added apps in between, yeah its just 100k but I am a miser, any ideas?
[06:49] <urgodfather> firstlast: have you tried editing your xorg.conf
[06:49] <atvr> almoxarife, yeah :)
[06:49] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: yea, that would explain it then
[06:49] <firstlast> urgodfather: yes, but am not an expert in it
[06:49] <SVNDR> atvr: thanks ill look now
[06:49] <n2diy> Mechdave, ok, I can install that, and than select it at log in right? And supposedly all the KDE libraries/dependencies were loaded when i installed korg, but you never know?
[06:50] <almoxarife> atvr: yeah, ><>...
[06:50] <urgodfather> firstlast: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[06:50] <urgodfather> make a backup
[06:50] <firstlast> urgodfather: righto
[06:50] <firstlast> urgodfather: i tried to use nvidia-settings to make one, but that's the one that won't start
[06:51] <SVNDR> How can i find out what kernel i have?
[06:51] <firstlast> urgodfather: i'm trying to edit that file generated by it now
[06:51] <xangua> SVNDR: uname -a
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: uname -a
[06:51] <urgodfather> dont edit the backup, thats in case your changes dont work
[06:51] <firstlast> urgodfather: yesss it now shows all 3
[06:52] <urgodfather> thats good
[06:52] <firstlast> urgodfather: but the monitor in the middle should be at the end, i guess i need to muck with the relative positionings eh
[06:52] <jyfl987> is it possible to replace one color value to another color value in X server GLobally?
[06:52] <urgodfather> firstlast: correct
[06:52] <SVNDR> thanks
[06:53] <firstlast> urgodfather: actually, wait, it turns out all 3 are separate X screens...I wanted xinerama to stretch/drag windows from one to another *sigh*
[06:53] <sandy19> want to know that is there any irc for C/C++ programming language?
[06:54] <urgodfather> firstlast: i was just about to ask if you hade xinerama enabled or not
[06:54] <firstlast> urgodfather: at the moment, seems to be not enabled
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> sandy19: try #c++
[06:55] <jyfl987> is it possible to replace one color value to another color value in X server GLobally?  firstlast
[06:55] <sandy19> join #c++
[06:55] <urgodfather> firstlast: you want that on
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> sandy19: with a / at the start, all irc commands begin with /
[06:56] <sandy19> ok action
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> sandy19: nice manners you got too :(
[06:57] <[an]droid|kindle> ActionParsnip: don't take it personally
[06:57] <firstlast> urgodfather: trying it now, just rebooting, my xfce crashed when I tried to log out
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> [an]droid|kindle: its just really sad
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> [an]droid|kindle: in a pathetic way, not upset way
[06:58] <sandy19> ActionParsnip i don't know how to do this? i mean not able bring your name in red color
[06:58] <urgodfather> firstlast: did you ctrl + alt + x?
[06:58] <Planet_EN> how can add our user to root group so that I don't have to enter root password 100 times a day
[06:58] <firstlast> urgodfather: yes, or rather its newer equivalent: alt sysreq K
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Planet_EN: just run:  sudo -i
[06:58] <urgodfather> firstlast: did you ctrl + alt + (correction) backspace
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Planet_EN: you now have an interactive sudo session (root console)
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Planet_EN: you can end it by running:  exit
[07:00] <urgodfather> can someone help me get my logitech keyboard/mouse combo working. mouse functional at 1ft. but that is is.
[07:01] <gantner> ah ha! HFS journaled FS will not mount to linux - have to use Mac diskutil tool to remove journaling
[07:01] <urgodfather> read about HIDpoint but not for 11.04
[07:01] <almoxarife> jyfl987: http://www.xfree86.org/current/X.7.html <-- looks complicated :)
[07:01] <jyfl987> almoxarife: ok thanks
[07:02] <n2diy> Planet_EN,  the root password is the difference between running anti-virus all day, or using a password.
[07:02] <almoxarife> I seem to have 100k more ram cruff today than yesterday, no added apps in between, yeah its just 100k but I am a miser, any ideas?
[07:02] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: alot of what my searches are finding talk about downgrading or upgrading the kernel.. what do you rekon?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: could try the precise live cd to test that
[07:03] <firstlast> urgodfather: do i just turn xinerama on with all the other options on, since i have 3 screens now?
[07:03] <n2diy> almoxarife, memory creep, run top and see what is using it, Firefox I bet?
[07:03] <Planet_EN> i know about sudo -i, I want to add my user so that it wont require sudo anymore
[07:04] <n2diy> Planet_EN, your trying to disable the security you have with Linux. If you don't want it, just run Windows.
[07:04] <urgodfather> firstlast: you want xinerama enabled
[07:05] <almoxarife> n2diy: I don't use firefox, and its not creep, I should have been more specific, its at login/reboot
[07:05] <firstlast> ok
[07:05] <urgodfather> firstlast: afterwards you might want to write a script for startup
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Planet_EN: then you will remove any security from your OS
[07:05] <urgodfather> firstlast:http://sernaonubuntu.wikidot.com/multiple-monitors
[07:06] <n2diy> almoxarife, ok, that's weird, has something changed, like new hardware?
[07:07] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: does Ubuntu have that on their website? i cant seem to find it
[07:07] <firstlast> urgodfather: thanks for the link, but when i change xinerama's option to "1", X won't start anymore ugh
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[07:07] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: thanks
[07:09] <almoxarife> n2diy: that's a thought, I am seeing cross the network icons I was not seeing before, selections for audio/mic  from my HTC, but 100K seems high I think, not sure now
[07:09] <urgodfather> firstlast: did you set server flag true?
[07:10] <firstlast> urgodfather: nope? sorry, where is that
[07:10] <n2diy> almoxarife, ok, cool. So eliminate stuff, and look for changes.
[07:10] <urgodfather> firstlast: look right above testing on link provided
[07:11] <firstlast> urgodfather: yes, that was set to "1" too under ServerFlags
[07:12] <n2diy> almoxarife, I'm a miser too, but even more than that, I like to know what's happening. :)
[07:13] <urgodfather> firstlast: try "true" instead
[07:13] <urgodfather> firstlast: honestly, im running out of answers
[07:14] <hot2trot> is there some quick easy way to make my computer never sleep and never sleep them monitor?
[07:14] <hot2trot> preferably usinc command line
[07:15] <jyfl987> almoxarife: just checked that, seems couldnt solve my problem
[07:15] <Jon--> Can someone duplicate a bug for me?
[07:16] <firstlast> urgodfather: yeah i hear ya, xinerama works for my 2 monitors that are hooked up to the nvidia gtx 260 card btw
[07:16] <n2diy> hot2trot, killall screensaver might be a good start?
[07:16] <Jon--> Attempt to use wmctrl -R with unity, let me know if it moves the window to the current workspace (as it should), or if, like me, it moves you to that workspace and sets focus instead
[07:16] <firstlast> urgodfather: when the 2nd video card is disabled, i mean
[07:16] <Jon--> ^ if anyone has a minute I'd appreciate the debug
[07:16] <jyfl987> almoxarife: for example, when i use eog to display an image, i want to change all its red color to black while displaying,
[07:17] <almoxarife> jyfl987: lets just say I would have to even understand the basics of what you are doing to get to the issues you are having, good luck
[07:18] <almoxarife> jyfl987: are you talking about manipulating images? wouldn't 'gimp' be the tool for that?
[07:19] <urgodfather> firstlast: thats a good start
[07:19] <jyfl987> almoxarife: nope, i just want my display to show another color which i defined to replace its original color
[07:19] <n2diy> !gimp
[07:19] <n2diy> gimp wasn't included with my install, what's with that?
[07:20] <almoxarife> jyfl987: color on a jpeg? image? tab? window?
[07:20] <almoxarife> n2diy: you got the inferior install?
[07:21] <jyfl987> almoxarife: globally, include color on image and any other element two!
[07:21] <n2diy> almoxarife, I upgraded from Xubuntu 10.10.
[07:22] <jyfl987> almoxarife: just like someone replace every point's color in the framebuffer
[07:22] <jyfl987> almoxarife: can you understant what i am saying?
[07:22] <almoxarife> jyfl987: color mapping, got it, not my fixation, good luck
[07:22] <Kevin-_-> hello, I'm installing ubuntu on my computer, and was seeing if there was a way to raid my hdd's together through the installation?
[07:23] <almoxarife> n2diy: that's it, you must not have gotten the Cadillac edition of the upgrade
[07:23] <jyfl987> almoxarife: yes, i dont got any information about it, i wonder if there is an exists way to accomplish that
[07:24] <almoxarife> jyfl987: google?
[07:24] <jyfl987> almoxarife: have search that and viewed about 10 pages
[07:24] <jyfl987> i mean list page
[07:24] <Jon--> Can someone help me duplicate an error?
[07:24] <n2diy> almoxarife,  okaaa! But I suspect your right, lots of bugs, so I guess I'll do a clean install!?
[07:25] <Jon--> gnome-terminal --title=Hello in workspace 1, open workspace 2, open Terminal, try wmctrl -R Hello
[07:25] <almoxarife> Jon--: what bug?
[07:25] <firstlast> urgodfather: just wondering, could the TwinView options have something to do with it
[07:25] <share> there is no update-grub command in Grub (1) right?
[07:25] <Jon--> Let me know if it moves to workspace 1, or if it moves the window to workspace 2 (bug).
[07:25] <almoxarife> share: no, there is not
[07:25] <Jon--> I'm using unity on Ubuntu 11.04 and it has the incorrect behaviour
[07:25] <Jon--> 11.04 + gnome2, no issue
[07:25] <Jon--> 10.10 I mean*
[07:26] <puff_> whoa what is the current unity release?
[07:26] <puff_> 4.24.0-0ubuntu2.1?
[07:26] <share> almoxarife: are you sure :P
[07:26] <puff_> gawd I know I am gonna break stuff
[07:27] <n2diy> puff_, seems like it is already broken?
[07:27] <puff_> lol it is not broken
[07:28] <puff_> I just want the option to change frome unity 2D to unity 3D at the login screen
[07:28] <Jon--> Come on, no one here with Unity + 11.04?
[07:28] <n2diy> puff_, My upgrade from Xubuntu 10.10 is a disaster, I'm going to try a clean install, except for /home.
[07:28] <Jon--> I want to make sure it's not something to do with my compiz setup or something
[07:31] <puff_> brb gonna see if I broke it
[07:31] <xcoy> salam
[07:32] <xcoy> kok sepi
[07:35] <shawn_> how do i install a 32-bit lib manually on a amd64 install?
[07:35] <shawn_> I have 11.10 so multiarch
[07:35] <shawn_> i want libssl0.9.8 32-bit
[07:36]  * Hsbc join sex #hayro
[07:37] <shawn_> do i just download it and install it, or is there and elegent way from the command loine?
[07:37] <puff_> ugh the guide server is down at the university of latvia anybody know the admins?
[07:37] <Mechdave> shawn_, I think there are compat libs available for libssl
[07:37] <xcoy> what it is..
[07:37] <shawn_> apt-get install libssl0.9.8 didn't work (wrong arch)
[07:38] <shawn_> Mechdave, this is a binary i downloaded needs
[07:38] <shawn_> not a package
[07:38] <elky> xcoy, do you have a support question about ubuntu?
[07:39] <elky> HacKers, please don't nickspam us :(
[07:39] <Mechdave> shawn_, libssl can be downloaded as a deb and installed with apt-get. Give me a minute and I shall see if I can find a compat for you
[07:39] <Mechdave> shawn_, libssl is a shared library
[07:39] <HacKers> UbuntuIrcCouncil
[07:40] <shawn_> Mechdave, i know how to do that, from packages.ubuntu.com --- but i thought there was a new elegent multiarch way
[07:40] <shawn_> considering that ubuntu now supports multiarch
[07:40] <harsh343> I got an error what i can do ??? Could not launch the terminal client:
[07:40] <harsh343> KDEInit could not launch 'konsole'.:
[07:40] <harsh343> Could not find 'konsole' executable
[07:40] <Mechdave> shawn_, not sure
[07:41] <puff_> harsh343: you do a whereis konsole?
[07:41] <iceroot> harsh343: output of "which konsole" and "dpkg -l konsole"
[07:41] <puff_> prolly a link thing maybe do a ldconfig on it
[07:41] <HacKers> UbuntuIrcCouncil
[07:42] <iceroot> HacKers: you have a support question?
[07:42] <harsh343> iceroot, when i try open terminal on Dolphin i got this message
[07:42] <harsh343> what i can do ?
[07:42] <iceroot> harsh343: provide the output i asked for (e.g. use tty1 with ctrl + alt + f1)
[07:44] <shawn_> Mechdave, eek "(Multi-Arch: no)", still got it work, as that is an obsolete library, but still.....
[07:44] <iceroot> harsh343: important on the dpkg line is if it is starting with "ii"
[07:44] <puff_> konsole resides in /usr/bin/konsole it would help if it was there
[07:45] <atvr> i am just wondering, if its possible to be hacked in irc :S
[07:45] <puff_> atvr: yes it is very possible
[07:45] <atvr> puff, how can i prevent that
[07:46] <harsh343> puff, konsole is not fount in /usr/bin
[07:46] <Mechdave> shawn_, I suppose you could look at the ssl home page --> http://www.openssl.org/
[07:46] <iceroot> atvr: normally not, the common clients from ubuntu are safe
[07:46] <harsh343> found*
[07:46] <puff_> atvr: don't irc as root don't connect to anybody so they get your ip and you should be fine
[07:46] <robbbie> atvr: keep your software up to date, close services you don't need, etc.
[07:46] <puff_> and what robbie said
[07:46] <iceroot> atvr: just dont use the irc-client as root and always have the latest security-updates
[07:47] <harsh343> iceroot, what i can do i want to use terminal under Dolphin
[07:47] <puff_> harsh343: thats the problem then
[07:47] <iceroot> harsh343: provide the output of dpkg -l | grep konsole
[07:47] <puff_> no konsole installed
[07:47] <atvr> okay thanks you all :) feeling better now
[07:47] <shawn_> Mechdave, i just removed the amd64 version i installed for no reason, and the program now works, but not supporting multilib for such an important lib seems a bit off
[07:47] <Mechdave> atvr, make sure you only irc as a non privileged user and use a client and not a terminal
[07:48] <harsh343> iceroot, no output
[07:48] <iceroot> harsh343: sudo apt-get install konsole
[07:48] <puff_> whereis knosle should return /usr/bin/konsole
[07:48] <iceroot> harsh343: ah and the command was "dpkg -l konsole"
[07:49] <iceroot> harsh343: but no output means its not installed, so use "sudo apt-get install konsole"
[07:49] <puff_> although I dun know why you would want to use it terminal is really nice
[07:49] <iceroot> puff_: isnt "konsole" the default kde-terminal?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: it is
[07:50] <harsh343> iceroot, yes thanks now i am able to do that
[07:50] <Mechdave> shawn_, Yes I agree... Maybe it isn't as easy to provide a multi arch deb for ssl
[07:50] <harsh343> Thanks puff
[07:50] <puff_> np
[07:50] <iceroot> harsh343: great
[07:50] <iceroot> wondering why konsole is not installed by default on his system
[07:50] <imgx64> Why do Ubuntu CDs come in 5s only?
[07:50] <SVNDR> what is the lowest i can set the /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq to? at the moment its echoing 1333000
[07:51] <iceroot> harsh343: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "dpkg -l kubuntu-desktop"
[07:51] <iceroot> imgx64: what?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> imgx64: shippit has been closed for a while now...
[07:51] <puff_> that is odd it was on here by default I did not install it
[07:51] <imgx64> Sorry, I meant on Canonical store: http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17
[07:51] <imgx64> Minimum is 5.
[07:52] <puff_> dependencie maybe
[07:52] <robbbie> SVNDR: why are you trying to change that? i'm assuming thats your bus speed
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> imgx64: weird, note those are 32bit.
[07:53] <robbbie> SVNDR: if you are trying to lower your bus, perhaps you can change it in the bios?
[07:53] <NimeshNeema> how do i update to Firefox 9.0.1 latest ver. on 11.10. It seems repositories contains ver 8.0 as the most updated one
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox oneiric
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> NimeshNeema: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/12/quickly-install-upgrade-to-firefox-9-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> NimeshNeema: all I did was search, you tried that?
[07:56] <SVNDR> robbbie: my CPU is getting really hot while idling in Ubuntu, though this isnt happening in windows, ive been trying all day to figure out what is rong, and i havent found a solution
[07:56] <NimeshNeema> ActionParsnip: nope. i didn't searched the web. Thought it's better to ask on IRC after i didn't found it in the repositories
[07:56] <SVNDR> robbbie: i read on a forum that using that command might help.. though it hasnt
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> NimeshNeema: there are usually guides for what you need, if you come up blank then do ask :)
[07:57] <robbbie> SVNDR: how hot is your cpu? what are the specs?
[07:57] <Malsasa> Hello, I want to copy my data on my friend's laptop. He is using Ubuntu so am I, and I want to do that using wireless connection. Can I do that?
[07:58] <ssfdre38> Malsasa, you want to copy the home dir right?
[07:58] <Malsasa> Okay.
[07:58] <Malsasa> Now I have a laptop
[07:59] <ssfdre38> im asking you a question
[07:59] <Malsasa> i wanna connect this with his laptop
[07:59] <Malsasa> to take my datas.
[07:59] <SVNDR> robbbie: at the moment, running 'sensors' in the terminal, it shows about 68 degrees celcius.. laptop has 3GB RAM, and not sure what graphics card, but its a good one (put it that way)
[07:59] <robbbie> SVNDR: yeah that seems hot for idle. not sure what cpu?
[07:59] <ssfdre38> Malsasa, right now you are making no sense right now
[08:00] <SVNDR> robbbie: intel dual core..
[08:00] <Malsasa> ssf: what do you mind, Sir?
[08:00] <Malsasa> ssf: what do you mean, Sir?
[08:00] <ssfdre38> Malsasa, im asking you are you going to copy his hime directory
[08:00] <SVNDR> robbbie: this afternoon when i had alot more apps open it was running at about 80degrees.. hot enough to burn me either way
[08:00] <robbbie> SVNDR: what is the idle temp in windows?
[08:00] <ssfdre38> home9
[08:01] <robbbie> SVNDR: 80C ??
[08:01] <SVNDR> robbbie: i have not checked but id say around 30-35 celcius
[08:01] <SVNDR> robbbie: if not less
[08:01] <Malsasa> Yes.
[08:01] <SVNDR> robbbie: yes 80C, i turned it off straight away.. jumped on here to try and figure it out (here being my PC, not laptop)
[08:02] <Malsasa> Sorry, I should go to pray, ssf :D Thank you.
[08:03] <robbbie> SVNDR: no significant cpu load?
[08:03] <aashez> How to install palimpset disk utility in Ubuntu 11.10?
[08:04] <SVNDR> robbbie: i was looking at the system monitor on Ubuntu, and its really only using about 50% MAX
[08:04] <aashez> palimpsest
[08:04] <puff_> !apt-get |aashez
[08:04] <SVNDR> robbbie: average was about 20%
[08:05] <aashez> !info palimpsest
[08:05] <puff_> or just hit the Dash Home button and type it in the search bar
[08:05] <puff_> well there ya go
[08:05] <robbbie> SVNDR: not sure, i just installed lm-sensors package, playing with it a bit, its not telling me my actual CPU temp but only pci adapter
[08:05] <SVNDR> robbbie: just to clarify, 80C wasnt idle, that was while surfing on safari, and running a few other apps, and mIRC through wine
[08:06] <puff_> aashez ya may have to do that one manually
[08:06] <SVNDR> robbbie: so what it displays isnt the CPU temp? if not id say its pretty damn close lol
[08:06] <aashez> puff_: I know how to install. There used to be a disk uitilty app which  tests HDD ..SMART tests
[08:06] <aashez> ok
[08:06] <SVNDR> robbbie: what temps are you getting?
[08:07] <akpk> I could not updat emt twitter from my Gwibber / ubuntu 11.10
[08:07] <robbbie> SVNDR: 1.4C http://pastebin.com/pM60PtEk
[08:07] <puff_> brb gonna set up a burn on the 11.10 release so I don't have to do an upgrade is I need to reinstall all I have on dvd is 10.40 lucid
[08:08] <aashez> I'm noticing random HDD click sounds. Is there a way to confirm which HDD out of three I'm using is faulty?
[08:08] <puff_> sthethoscope
[08:08] <robbbie> SVNDR: you should see what windows is reporting, did you try to O C at all? assuming its a laptop, i doubt it, also being a laptop its going to run a little hotter. i would make sure it is nice and dustered out, the fans are working as they should etc.
[08:09] <llutz_> !info smartmontools | aashez check this
[08:09] <aashez> puff_: I meant physical/magnetic damage
[08:09] <aashez> llutz_: Thanks
[08:10] <thomedy> okay im still working on this same thing... and i could use whatever expertise anyone can give.. i have available networks... my wicd detects them my network-manager detects theme i can iwlist scan and get them... but when i enter the pass it doesn't do anything... i checked the pass its good
[08:10] <thomedy> i really really really need my internet to work
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: what wireless chip do you use?
[08:11] <SVNDR> robbbie: http://pastebin.com/pP0wUkSg - thats idle - i only cleaned my fans out not long ago, after installing more ran, and it wasnt that dusty then either (after a whole year), im not sure what O C is? fans seem to be working at full RPM but couldnt guarentee it..
[08:11] <thomedy> can i find that with lshw
[08:11] <robbbie> SVNDR: overclock
[08:11] <SVNDR> RAM*
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: did the BIOS update help?
[08:11] <Humbedooh> is the networking service actually running? :p
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: sudo lshw -C network
[08:11] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: i havent done the BIOS update yet, from what i read it havent realy helped anybody
[08:12] <SVNDR> hasnt*
[08:12] <SVNDR> robbbie: how would i do this O C that you talk of? lol
[08:12] <SVNDR> robbbie: and yes it is a laptop
[08:13] <thomedy> if i understand the questit says ar242x / ar542x wireless network adapter
[08:13] <puff_> geebs the ubuntu download server must be throttled back really tight it's gonna take an hour to get an iso off it
[08:13] <thomedy> and i jut fournd out im 64 bit so ....
[08:13] <robbbie> SVNDR: well those temps are *critical*
[08:14] <puff_> <-- super highspeed direct connect to the backbone not used to downloads taking more than a few seconds
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> thomas^: is it in an acer laptop?
[08:14] <thomedy> compaq
[08:14] <thomedy> i like the logo
[08:14] <thomedy> ...
[08:14] <SVNDR> robbbie: id say so too
[08:14] <puff_> the upgrade didn't take me what a few minutes the other night?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> puff_: use torrents
[08:15] <puff_> still need a good iso though
[08:15] <jragon> Hey
[08:15] <SVNDR> robbbie: if its hot enough to burn my skin, i can imagine how quick the CPU will burn out
[08:15] <puff_> nahh I shy away from torrents it doesn't look good in my connection logs
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> thomas^: if you run:  sudo rfkill list    is it blocked at all
[08:16] <jragon> I'm getting a 403 forbidden error when I try to access localhost/ci I've done chown jragon /var/www but I still get the error. What should I do?
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> puff_: it a legit use of the protocol....
[08:16] <thomedy> when i dmesg it syas try 1, 2, 3 time out
[08:16] <llutz_> jragon: /var/www has  obe readable by www-data
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> thomas^: what model compaq is it?
[08:17] <jragon> llutz_: what do you mean?
[08:17] <puff_> I know it is legit but you don't know my managers
[08:17] <thomedy> cq60
[08:17] <robbbie> SVNDR: you have windows? what does something like cpuz report
[08:17] <llutz_> jragon: /var/www has  to be readable by www-data (the user/group your http-server runs as)
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> puff_: I know they are ill educated
[08:17] <thomedy> im reallyhoping its not hardware i know all my friends have had difficulty with wireless in ubuntu
[08:17] <jragon> Okay
[08:17] <puff_> the bootable iso is only 697MBs
[08:18] <jragon> So... should I do chown www-data?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: try:  sudo modprobe -r ath5k; sleep 2; sudo modprobe ath5k
[08:18] <llutz_> jragon: chgrp
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> puff_: could use the minimal and install via the repos
[08:18] <jragon> Okay, so chgrp www-data /var/www
[08:19] <puff_> ActionParsnip: true but the idea is to end up with a fresh standalone bootable cd of the whole thing
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> thomas^: were any of the interfaces blocked in the rfkill output?
[08:19] <puff_> so I can use it on other machines
[08:19] <SVNDR> robbbie: im dual-booting my original winsows machine with vista... i hvent tried looking at the problem on there just plain because my comps practically cold when running windows
[08:19] <puff_> later on I will make a custom installer
[08:20] <thomedy> i already rfkill unblock all 'd and when i do the modprob i dont seem to have a connection
[08:20] <puff_> I find the generic install to be pretty trouble free
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> thomas^: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[08:20] <jragon> llutz_: I tried that, but it still gives a 403 forbidden.
[08:20] <llutz_> jragon: all the stuff under /var/www/.... has to be readable. so best is "chown -R $USER:www-data /var/www" with permission 755/644. only few things should be writable by a webserver, those you have to chmod g+w
[08:21] <thomedy> i have def never done that one sec please
[08:21] <thomedy> oneiric
[08:21] <jragon> Okay
[08:21] <thomedy> is that just the ubuntu version im on
[08:21] <mojita> youhouuuuuu
[08:21] <puff_> sudo then chown user file -r does not work on chown
[08:21] <harsh343> puff, how to set terminal on bottom side on dolphin ?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: yes thats the codename
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: try:  sudo rfkill unblock all
[08:21] <thomedy> deal
[08:22] <jragon> So: chown -R jragon:www-data /var/www chmod -R g+w /var/www/ci
[08:22] <thomedy> i can easily do that but i just rfkill list all
[08:22] <thomedy> and they all said hard block/ softblock no
[08:22] <puff_> harsh343: in console?
[08:22] <llutz_> jragon: NO, only those files/dirs the webserver really needs to write to, should be writable
[08:22] <puff_> I dunno I use unity desktop on X.org not using console
[08:23] <puff_> I can drag mine
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: is the system fully updated?
[08:23] <harsh343> puff, like i want to put my terminal with dophin in the bottom
[08:23] <puff_> but there is windowing attributes
[08:23] <puff_> check the positioning flags
[08:23] <thomedy> sudo apt-get update ?
[08:23] <harsh343> means attach terminal with doplhin
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:24] <popo64> ciao
[08:24] <popo64> !list
[08:24] <mojita> :D
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: obviously needs a web connection
[08:24] <jragon> I've still got the 403 :S
[08:24] <Humbedooh> jragon, are you accessing a file or a folder via your browser?
[08:24] <jragon> localhost/ci
[08:24] <puff_> I don't see it for konsole
[08:24] <jragon> Yes
[08:24] <thomedy> yeah i wasn't thinking
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: also try:    sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[08:24] <Humbedooh> yes, but is _ci_ a file or a folder?
[08:25] <papi> KOI DONC
[08:25] <jragon> Yes it is
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: I suggest you get a wired connection and get fully updated
[08:25] <Humbedooh> ...
[08:25] <harsh343> puff, like this video using http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pX9BHhdOCE&feature=plcp&context=C351648fUDOEgsToPDskISRJEpHkGzlaxTbCCB1WNM
[08:25] <jragon> Humbedooh: /var/www/ci
[08:25] <Humbedooh> is it a folder?
[08:25] <jragon> folder
[08:25] <Humbedooh> then you should set up directory listing, no?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> thomedy: http://www.geekmind.net/2011/01/linux-wifi-operation-not-possible-due.html
[08:25] <puff_> nope --help does not show positioning
[08:26] <jragon> Humbedooh: it's got an index.php file though
[08:26] <puff_> just transparency tabs etc
[08:26] <MJ23> Hello
[08:26] <Humbedooh> can you access /ci/index.php then?
[08:26] <jragon> Nope, I get a 403
[08:26] <Humbedooh> if you did the chmod as llutz said, then I suspect the server is looking in the wrong folder :>
[08:27] <jojoalpha18> #toulibre
[08:27] <jragon> O.o
[08:27] <jragon> What do you mean?
[08:27] <Humbedooh> maybe you set up the web server wrong :)
[08:27] <llutz_> jragon: check DocRoot in your webserver/-host config
[08:27] <MJ23> I have a problem with the setup of two monitors. I get them both running in their own resolution extended. But the problem is first to change "main" monitor and also change the position of them ( i want the new screen to be on the left instead of the right as it is now)
[08:27]  * Humbedooh defers to llutz 
[08:28] <harsh343> puff, any idea ?
[08:28] <thomedy> thank you very much but i already took care of my rfkill situation... its hardblock/softblock no
[08:28] <puff_> harsh343: you using console due to performance issues?
[08:28] <thomedy> on hp wifi and phy-
[08:28] <thomedy> 0
[08:29] <puff_> sort of defeats the idea behind a desktop install
[08:29] <puff_> maybe try a different terminal emulator
[08:30] <MJ23> does someone know what to do?
[08:30] <puff_> one with sizing and positioning args
[08:30] <puff_> or just run the regular desktop like unity
[08:30] <puff_> I find it smooth and not cumbersome at all
[08:31] <thomedy> do you think if i update/upgrade then this will go away
[08:31] <juanito_> jojo
[08:31] <thomedy> which ill have to do later but
[08:31] <harsh343> puff, what is console i donot know, I am using so many terminals
[08:31] <harsh343> Guake terminal also
[08:31] <puff_> rofl console is what ya get before loading a windowing system
[08:31] <jojoalpha18> ça va ti juanito ?
[08:32] <puff_> which manages all your terminals
[08:32] <Richie086> maybe he is using something so much he forgot what it was
[08:32] <juanito_> bonne année mec
[08:32] <jojoalpha18> how are you juanito ?
[08:32] <auvajs> Could not open localsound device, error 2
[08:32] <auvajs> Client side error: Could not set up a stream
[08:32] <juanito_> happy news years
[08:32] <puff_> you running a virtual shell
[08:32] <auvajs> anyone can help me?
[08:33] <juanito_> jojo : what's your name pleas?
[08:33] <puff_> that is probably the difference
[08:33] <Humbedooh> chit-chat in private please :)
[08:34] <puff_> Dolphin is an open-source Nintendo GameCube and Wii Emulator for Microsoft Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X (Intel-based)
[08:34] <puff_> is that what you are running harsh343?
[08:34] <juanito_> #join toulibre
[08:35] <thomedy> so is this a bug
[08:36] <llutz_> puff_: more likely: dolphin - file manager for KDE 4
[08:36] <puff_> brb gotta check the iso
[08:36]  * Humbedooh snickers
[08:37] <thomedy> does it matter that i chose the 32 bit install instead of the 64 when i pushed it to 1010 cuz i thought it was 32
[08:37] <Humbedooh> it matters to some, but not to others :)
[08:38] <thomedy> and now relized when i hit lshw it says width 64 in lshw -c
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> thomas^: doesn't really matter
[08:39] <ldz420> if you resize a partition that was full to a smaller size.  what would happen to the data is outside the partition size? I believe that the data that runs out of the bound of the new partition would under normal circumstances be non accessible any longer?
[08:39] <thomedy> i didn't think so
[08:39] <thomedy> but i wasn't sure
[08:40] <thomedy> well im out of ideas again
[08:41] <Humbedooh> thomedy, are all the network services running as they should?
[08:41] <harsh343> puff, right now i am using Dolphin and want to add the terminal with dolphin
[08:41] <Untitled_only> long time room... whats new?
[08:41] <thomedy> when i first jumped on to work on this i ran sudo services network-manager start
[08:41] <harsh343> Dolphin also provide terminal what i am using right now
[08:41] <thomedy> do you think that should do it networking isn't my strength but im learning fast
[08:41] <Humbedooh> what about networking?
[08:42] <Humbedooh> service networking start
[08:42] <thomedy> i didn't know taht one let me do that one sec please
[08:42] <Humbedooh> I had a corrupt networking service a few days back after an upgrade
[08:43] <the_p_> hi. i have a ubuntu installation that i did not set up myself it is managed via a puppet daemon which i want to stop but i do not know how. In the file /var/log/deamon.log I can see that puppet is started regularly but i don't know what actually starts it. Can you help me? I just want to turn puppet off.
[08:43] <MJ23> Does someone know how to change main monitor when you are using two?
[08:43] <thomedy> when i run that it says networking stop/waiting
[08:43] <thomedy> that seems backwords
[08:43] <MJ23> so i get all the panels and docky on the right screen
[08:43] <Humbedooh> ye you got the same problem then
[08:43] <the_p_> I checked if it is a cron job but i could not find any. What other places does ubuntu have that regularly starts processes?
[08:43] <Untitled_only> hey
[08:44] <Humbedooh> the config file is probably corrupted like mine was
[08:44] <thomedy> freakin awesome.... progress...
[08:44] <thomedy> please direct me ... "your humble student"
[08:44] <puff_> MJ23: diplays does that
[08:44] <thomedy> where is this config file
[08:44] <Humbedooh> uhm...if I can remember :p
[08:44] <SVNDR> robbbie: i may have found a solution on http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/linux-kernel-power-issue-fix.html - but i am also running ubuntu in 2D mode at the moment
[08:44] <MJ23> puff_ is that a program?
[08:45] <puff_> !displays |MJ23
[08:45] <puff_> stoopit bawt
[08:45] <thomedy> oh god i hope this works... i build web and i need to get networking better but i haven't had to and when ever i do do it i do it so rarely that i invariably forget what i was doing
[08:45] <thomedy> or how to do it
[08:45] <puff_> MJ23: yes it is
[08:46] <puff_> MJ23: hit dash home and type in disp in the search
[08:46] <puff_> or hit the cog in the taskbar and choose displays
[08:46] <Humbedooh> thomedy, is there a service option to force reload or something?
[08:47] <puff_> thomedy: I know that feeling
[08:47] <thomedy> in order for me to find that out is man service the way to go
[08:48] <puff_> just got apache2 going again and having to find out how to edit my site it's annoying with read only web pages
[08:48] <robbbie> SVNDR: man i apologize i got distracted looking at conky themes :P
[08:48] <thomedy> man service didn't get me anywhere and im trying to figure out how to know the answer rigt now.... tabbbing isn't really getting me anwhere either
[08:49] <SVNDR> robbbie: haha not a prob man, beleive me, ive been looking all day to no avail.. i dont exspect you to do that ;p
[08:49] <Anomie21> Came back from hols and my wee sidebar has vanished (unity), any ideas?
[08:50] <thomedy> it doesnt look like i have that option
[08:50] <SVNDR> robbbie: was more hoping someone would go 'heres your problem, do this' and bam it would be fixed, but thats never the case lol
[08:50] <thomedy> okay im going to go with you for the time being and say its that because when i hit service stop it says unknown instance
[08:50] <Humbedooh> thomedy, I'm sorry but I can't recall how I solved it, only that somehow one of the networking config files were missing or corrupted
[08:50] <thomedy> so that doesn't seem reasonable either
[08:51] <Guest19524> Hi, guys. Where can I find the grub on my laptop? Who knows the location of grub?
[08:51] <thomedy> well its a direction Humbedoo and thank you even if it isn't the right direction its something and im working with it
[08:51] <Humbedooh> I think it might have been something to do with ipv4 redirect directives not being set...
[08:52] <amin`> where could I get fluxkeys source code ?
[08:52] <Humbedooh> dmesg might provide an answer if you try to stop and start the service
[08:53] <thomedy> even stranger then the response to service start is dmesg says nothing at all
[08:53] <thomedy> i still have try 1, 2, 3 and then time out from before and thats it
[08:54] <Humbedooh> well at least you have a concrete problem that someone will hopefully know the answer to :)
[08:55] <thomedy> sweet ill take it
[08:55] <thomedy> thanks again
[08:56] <Humbedooh> try /etc/init.d/networking restart instead of the service command
[08:56] <zerofly> There are 2 os(one is windows, the other is ubuntu) on my laptop now. I wanna re-install the ubuntu by hard disk install. Can you give me some advice or suggestion?
[08:56] <Humbedooh> that sooometimes does something else
[08:57] <zerofly> Question 1: Where can I find the current grub? Can you tell me the location?
[08:57] <Humbedooh> locate grub ?
[08:58] <zerofly> Yes, Humbedooh.
[08:58] <zagibu> that was a command
[08:58] <urlin2u> !grub | zerofly
[09:00] <robbbie> SVNDR: seeing how hot i could get my cpu with cpuburn.. got it up to about 45C and called it quits, looks like its idling at about 23C
[09:00] <vice> hey guys! i need to create a xorg.conf, but Xorg -configure says "Number of created Screens does not match number of detected devices.
[09:00] <SVNDR> robbbie: wow, are you on a laptop or PC?
[09:01] <robbbie> SVNDR: PC, amd fx4100, just built this machine a few days ago
[09:02] <SVNDR> robbbie: by all means build me one.. lol im on a lenovo 3000 N200, which may be my problem
[09:02] <robbbie> SVNDR: also seeing the core temps after running sensors-detect
[09:03] <SVNDR> robbbie: im not trust sensors at the moment, because at login (while cold)  it told me the temp was 55C and then as it got hotter it told me its was down to 49C. which clearly to me makes no sence
[09:04] <SVNDR> robbbie: is there any way to turn the display brightness up and down?
[09:05] <zerofly> The current os on my laptop are windows and ubuntu. how can I install new linux os via hard disk install?
[09:05] <zerofly> Can you give me some advice or suggestion?
[09:05] <robbbie> SVNDR: possibly a fn key on your keyboard? not sure off hand
[09:08] <samuelsapps> set irc_conf_mode 1
[09:08] <SVNDR> robbbie: tried them all, no good lol
[09:12] <robbbie> SVNDR: i got a new logitech keyboard, sort of a fancy one that has a lot of options and i was glad they all worked when i installed 11.10 the other day :P
[09:12] <ranjan> is there a freeipa client available for ubuntu?
[09:12] <robbbie> fn + music icon opens banshee for example :P
[09:13] <almoxarife> freeipa<-- new word
[09:13] <almoxarife> ranjan: what is it?
[09:15] <SVNDR> robbbie: well i tried fn+up and it just comes up with a huge X on the screen lol
[09:15] <SVNDR> well not X but a CANCEL sign
[09:16] <ranjan> almoxarife, its centralized identity management software for linux, which includes 389-DS , Kerberos and other stuffs under one roof
[09:17] <almoxarife> ranjan: sounds really complicated, what does it do?
[09:17] <ranjan> almoxarife, have you heard about LDAP?
[09:18] <ranjan> almoxarife, or do you know Microsoft Active Directory?
[09:18] <ranjan> almoxarife, http://freeipa.org
[09:18] <imgx64> Why are there so many redundant kernel packages (linux, linux-image, linux-generic) that do nothing except being dependent on linux-image-generic?
[09:18] <dyd> is there something like mac "spotlight" for ubuntu?
[09:19] <almoxarife> ranjan: I am the guy that is willing to say no to both, seen LDAP, don't know what its purpose is
[09:19] <neil_ubuntu> Hello all
[09:20] <ranjan> almoxarife, no problem, you will need those things terribly when entering to manage centralized user accounts and authentications
[09:21] <Nuukia> Ill try to intsall ati-driver-installer-11-12-x86.x86_64 . I am unable to install i give a command in the terminal (sudo apt-install ati-driver-installer-11-12-x86.x86_64) . But get error command not found . any idea
[09:21] <ranjan> almoxarife, and freeipa is a project from redhat which has all the essential components packaged to serve the purpose
[09:21] <almoxarife> ranjan: good to know
[09:21] <almoxarife> ranjan: there you go, your free source
[09:21] <ranjan> almoxarife, what :)
[09:21] <robbbie> ranjan: you'll have to install from source. why freeipa though? just use the command line :P
[09:22] <ranjan> robbbie, commandline for what?
[09:22] <ripthejacker> cant install anything from software centre the install button is greyed out
[09:22] <ripthejacker> please help
[09:22] <almoxarife> ranjan: your link
[09:22] <robbbie> ranjan: whatever you may be doing requiring centralized user accounts/authentication. for example the old fashioned way, yptools/nis, nfs/autofs :P
[09:23] <almoxarife> Nuukia: the package name you mentioned, where did you get it?
[09:23] <ranjan> robbbie, this is a much more complex environment to manage with command line, and freeipa provides a neat and beautiful web app, which can be used to manage the freeipa server
[09:23] <imgx64> ripthejacker: what are you trying to install? Or is the button greyed out on all programs?
[09:24] <Ben64> Nuukia: you should use the Hardware Drivers to get ATI drivers, not just downloading a package and installing it
[09:24] <ripthejacker> imgx64, yes all programs
[09:24] <rajasekhar> guys any one out there pls help with some booting issues
[09:24] <ranjan> robbbie, even after that its a little pain to manage things, and in that case i dare to think about managing using command line
[09:24] <ranjan> robbbie, and we have to manage around 300 Users :)
[09:25] <robbbie> ranjan: sounds like fun :P
[09:25] <ripthejacker> rajasekhar, post your doubt dont ask to ask
[09:25] <ripthejacker> imgx64, you have any idea?
[09:25] <imgx64> ripthejacker: That's odd. Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get update". Does it give an error?
[09:25] <almoxarife> Nuukia: sudo apt-install ati-driver-installer-11-12-x86.x86_64 ........... should be 'sudo apt-get install xxxxxxxyyyyyyxzzz
[09:26] <ripthejacker> imgx64, no no error and i can install packages with apt-get install
[09:27] <rajasekhar> my prob is that i have 2 oses on two hdd's one hdd is having winxp and other having ubuntu 11.10 but i cant boot into winxp
[09:28] <vice> hey guys! i need to create a xorg.conf, but Xorg -configure says "Number of created Screens does not match number of detected devices.
[09:29] <almoxarife> rajasekhar: you had xp initially?
[09:29] <rajasekhar> yes
[09:29] <Nuukia> Ben64  i get invalid operation ? i am admin
[09:29] <Ben64> Nuukia: i'm not sure what you mean
[09:30] <ripthejacker> rajasekhar, there is no xp boot option or the xp boot gives an error?
[09:30] <imgx64> ripthejacker: try running software center with sudo? (it works for me without sudo, just a shot in the dark)
[09:30] <almoxarife> rajasekhar: when ubuntu loads grub, you don't see an option for the xp os?
[09:30] <imgx64> ripthejacker: Other than that, I have no idea.
[09:30] <rajasekhar> yes i can see an option for winxp
[09:30] <almoxarife> rajasekhar: then use it?
[09:31] <rajasekhar> but when enter that
[09:31] <rajasekhar> i get a error message
[09:31] <Nuukia> Ben64  sry i just give the command sudo apt-get install atiblabla and get error Couldn't find any package by regex
[09:31] <rajasekhar> error:no such device XXXXXXXXXXXX
[09:31] <Ben64> Nuukia: go to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[09:31] <ripthejacker> imgx64, i tried that too but it doesnt work :(
[09:31] <rajasekhar> error:invalid signature
[09:31] <Ben64> Nuukia: install from there, not from command line
[09:33] <dyd> how can i install a certificate in ubuntu?
[09:35] <Nuukia> Ben64  brb
[09:37] <rfi> a cert for what
[09:43] <rajasekhar> im getting these errors when booting to win xp
[09:43] <rajasekhar> error:no such device XXXXXXXXXXXX
[09:43] <rajasekhar> error:invalid signature
[09:43] <ripthejacker> i saw a possible solution in some forum
[09:43] <ripthejacker> apt-get install os-prober
[09:44] <ripthejacker> rajasekhar, and then update-grub2
[09:44] <rajasekhar> ok just a min ill try n thank you for that
[09:44] <ripthejacker> np :)
[09:47] <drupol> hello
[09:47] <JAMD456> Hi
[09:47] <drupol> I'm trying to setup my keyboard mapping in console, but each time I reboot, it reset to US keyboard.
[09:47] <drupol> Any advice on this ?
[09:47] <ripthejacker> anyone has a solution for greyed out install button in software center
[09:48] <theadmin> drupol: Add the mappings to your xsession file/.xinitrc/whatever
[09:49] <drupol> theadmin: I don't use X
[09:49] <drupol> theadmin: I just need it in console.
[09:49] <theadmin> drupol: bashrc then lol
[09:50] <drupol> theadmin: I just found it
[09:50] <drupol> theadmin: /etc/default/keyboard.
[09:50] <drupol> Problem solved :-)
[09:52] <theadmin> drupol: Or that, yeah :D
[09:53] <Nuukia> ben64 ill trying to install ati from hardware i don,t what u mean whit hardware . i am useing a long time ubuntu . ill try ti install ati driver whit synaptic but i get a new error Starting without administrative privileges ) i am admin whats the problem
[09:53] <theadmin> drupol: I'm not familiar with those Ubuntu files, lol, in Arch I'd just set KEYMAP="ru" in rc.conf or something similar.
[09:53] <Ben64> !ati | Nuukia
[09:54] <atvr> anyone have tried to put ubuntu into and idevice like an iphone 4g
[09:54] <nagi> atvr: I didn't know it had been done yet. That's interesting.
[09:54] <drupol> theadmin: I'm a gentoo guy, It's the first time I use that crap...
[09:55] <atvr> nagi, i dont know if it has been done
[09:55] <theadmin> drupol: Yeah, well, Ubuntu does things strangely and is heavily X-dependent
[09:56] <drupol> theadmin: even changing those files doesn't change the keyboard...
[09:56] <nagi> atvr: Getting the phone app working would be tricky I should imaginge. And I guess youd need to re-program the flash with JTAG hardware.
[09:56] <drupol> I think I'll switch to another distro.
[09:56] <atvr> nagi, do you think it will be like a jailbreak ??
[09:56] <Ben64> drupol: ubuntu asks during install which keyboard layout to use
[09:57] <theadmin> Ben64: Console-based, not GUI.
[09:57] <Ben64> and you can change it in Preferences -> Keyboard
[09:57] <theadmin> Ben64: *ahem*.
[09:57] <drupol> Ben64: I don't use X.
[09:57] <Ben64> ever?
[09:57] <drupol> Ever.
[09:57] <Ben64> why not? its nice
[09:57] <drupol> I just need that machine to have Jenkins, Apache and Git server.
[09:57] <drupol> So, no need of X.
[09:58] <drupol> I don't have a so powerful computer so, the less I use in Virtualbox, it's better.
[09:58] <RaTTuS|BIG> drupol - just use the server verison then ...
[09:58] <theadmin> drupol: Mind pm'ing me? I want to ask some questions
[09:58] <nagi> atvr: I think the very first install would be more like what happens in the factory when they load software on the phone.
[09:58] <theadmin> RaTTuS|BIG: And that IS what (s)he's doing
[09:58] <Ben64> drupol: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf ??
[09:58] <nagi> atvr: But I'm no expert :)
[09:59] <drupol> let me check.
[09:59] <atvr> nagi, i didnt expect you to be expert :) but your idea is really good
[09:59] <bal> when i update  i get message "Failed to download package files  Check your Internet connection."   but my connection is live how can i upadte/
[09:59] <bal> ?
[10:00] <Ben64> bal: double check your internet connection, especially to update server(s)
[10:00] <drupol> Ben64: I've followed this guide and succeeded to change thanks to console-data. But when I reboot the computer, it fallback to us keyboard.
[10:00] <bal> i am online  iam useing same conncetion in which now  i am chat ing
[10:01] <bal> it is live ?
[10:01] <bal> how can i check sever is live?
[10:01] <Mechdave> bal, when you get that error message there should be details, what does the details say?
[10:01] <bal> Failed to download package files  Check your Internet connection.
[10:02] <Mechdave> bal, are you on wireless or wired internet?
[10:05] <z3bra> Bonjour
[10:06] <bal> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kde4libs/libkrosscore4_4.7.3-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb Could not connect to netserver:4080 (67.215.65.132), connection timed out [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]
[10:06] <atvr> z3bra, ici c'est un canal strictement anglais, pour avoire du support en francais rejoin moi au canal #ubuntu-fr
[10:06] <bindi> hey, i have a program (32bit) that depends on "libc6:i386" (>= 2.4) and libusb-0.1-4:i386 (>= 2:0.1.2), how can I get these on my system?
[10:06] <z3bra> ok thx =)
[10:07] <bal> i am on wired network
[10:10] <Mechdave> bal, the file is on the server and the server ia alive
[10:10] <bal> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kde4libs/libkrosscore4_4.7.3-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb Could not connect to netserver:4080 (67.215.65.132), connection timed out [IP: 91.189.88.31 80]it is the error details
[10:10] <akubudakbaru1> gmsia
[10:11] <bal> then how i can update it ?
[10:12] <Ben64> why does it say netserver:4080
[10:12] <bal> some updates are working pergectly
[10:12] <Ben64> try using a different dns server
[10:13] <mkanyicy> how can i make ubuntu to skip the grub menu on boot, i used to dual boot before but now im single booting
[10:13] <bal> netserver is the server which is the gate way
[10:13] <Ben64> then you have something strange going on in your network that you need to fix
[10:13] <Ben64> mkanyicy: edit the grub configuration file and set the timeout to 0
[10:14] <mkanyicy> Ben64, then when I want to go to recovery mode, what will i do to get the menu back?
[10:14] <z3bra> Hi
[10:14] <bal> netserver using some firewall is it block this?
[10:15] <Ben64> mkanyicy: on grub2 you would just hit shift a bunch during bootup
[10:15] <Mechdave> bal, sometimes updates will fail because there isn't a good route to the server from you
[10:15] <mkanyicy> Ben64, thanks
[10:15] <McPeter> z3bra, si tu pars aussi vite ..
[10:15] <bal> we are using lease line
[10:15] <McPeter> tu vas avoir difficilement de l'aide
[10:16] <z3bra> Je reste ici maintenant c'est bon haha
[10:16] <z3bra> Désolé
[10:16] <pe> ciao
[10:16] <pe> !list
  thank you all
[10:18] <happosade> http://pastebin.com/2pWmVeYN what can I do with this?
[10:22] <Slartibart> Why does iptables reject a DNS request(i.e UDP) from the local net when the FORWARD/OUTBOUND chain contains "1    ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere"? (No DROP rules before that, just 1 ACCEPT and 1 TCPMSS which I'm not really sure about)
[10:23] <pengolin> how to set software center in 12.04 lts
[10:24] <pengolin> hi there
[10:25] <marel_> I've tried to install Ubuntu and there's no such a choice as install ubuntu alongside windows 7, only replace one with the other. What do I do ?
[10:26] <RaTTuS|BIG> marel_ - how much free space do you have on windows partition
[10:27] <marel_> a lot, over 300GB
[10:27] <maheanuu> marel, have you tried Ubuntu using the live disk, it allows you to boot using the CD/DVD or USb Key
[10:27] <marel_> Yeah I've tried it..
[10:28] <RaTTuS|BIG> marel_ and that still does not want to offer to install alongside>?
[10:28] <marel_> nop
[10:28] <RaTTuS|BIG> it could be that your windows paration is heavy franmentated
[10:28] <maheanuu> And, did Ubuntu run on your boot up ok?:
[10:29] <maheanuu> I was going to say that he may be partitioned completely for windoze
[10:29] <marel_> Well I have only one partition on my computer
[10:30] <Ben64> you could manually partition
[10:30] <aLeSD_> hi all
[10:30] <aLeSD_> how could I set the default login manager ?
[10:30] <maheanuu> I believe that is you problem, I am not an expert by far, but I am sure that you cannot install Ubuntu in a windoze partition
[10:30] <orated> How to pipe dd image to bzip2? dd if = /dev/whatever | bzip2 > path-to-archive.bz2 gives - dd: unrecognized operand `if' Try `dd --help' for more information.
[10:30] <RaTTuS|BIG> marel_ you may need to shrink the windows partition
[10:30] <marel_> and leave the other space unpartitioned ?
[10:31] <fidel> aLeSD_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm/gdm/similar
[10:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> orated no spaces
[10:31] <Ben64> marel_: you should be able to partition from the ubuntu install cd
[10:31] <preciseP> hi
[10:31] <preciseP> manik
[10:31] <linux> I am new and it ist only a test. Ignore this text.
[10:31] <orated> RaTTuS|BIG: :) Thanks
[10:32] <preciseP> okk
[10:32] <marel_> Ben64, I want to install ubuntu alongside windows 7 and this option does not exist for me and I believe partitioning comes after that..
[10:32] <Ben64> marel_: there should be an option to partition manually at that area
[10:32] <marel_> alright
[10:34] <maheanuu> I do not use windows in any shape or flavor, I quit them with Vista....   and am doing my best to learn Linux and forget windoze
[10:34] <Slartibart> Why does iptables reject a DNS request from the local net when the FORWARD/OUTBOUND chain contains "ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere"? (No DROP rules before that, just 1 ACCEPT and 1 TCPMSS which I'm not really sure about what it does) It falls through the chain right to the bottom..
[10:35] <mrd_> hello
[10:35] <mrd_> can any one help me
[10:36] <Ben64> mrd_: not if you don't ask a question
[10:36] <mrd_> ok sir
[10:36] <ram2software> hi
[10:36] <maheanuu> I am having a problem presently with /dev/sr0 I shut down on New Years Eve and on New Years I wanted to burn some discs to pass out to family as musical favors I cannot do anything the drive is showing but tells me there is no media and I cannot get it to mount or anything
[10:37] <mrd_> can u tell me how i can get good speed in downloads in ubundu 11.10
[10:37] <mrd_> can u tell me how i can get good speed in downloads in ubundu 11.10
[10:37] <mrd_> can u tell me how i can get good speed in downloads in ubundu 11.10
[10:37] <FloodBot1> mrd_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:37] <mrd_> ok
[10:38] <mrd_> whats that
[10:38] <mrd_> sir
[10:38] <precise_> hi
[10:38] <mrd_> iam new to linux
[10:38] <precise_> okk
[10:38] <mrd_> i need to know a way to increse my dounload speed
[10:39] <maheanuu> That is done by your client or modem/router I believe
[10:39] <precise_> hi
[10:39] <Slartibart> mrd_: What speeds do you get? What kind of connection do you have?
[10:39] <Ben64> the operating system doesn't really affect download speed, to increase it the best course of action is to contact your ISP
[10:39] <piscue> get antother mirror
[10:40] <pepp-elito> Hi, I'm having problems with audio over hdmi in ubuntu 11.04, when the screensaver goes tosleep the audio stops, could this be fixed, i.e keeping audio over hdmi while the screen goes to sleep?
[10:40] <mrd_> i have a 4 mbps connection i used to get about 520kbps download speed in windows
[10:40] <mrd_> now in ubundu i get only 250 some times 110
[10:41] <inttosh> hello
[10:41] <mrd_> i have a 4 mbps connection i used to get about 520kbps download speed in windows now in ubundu only gets about 250 150
[10:41] <inttosh> i just installed rhythmbox and after few minutes uninstalled it. but rhythmbox is still listed under speaker menu
[10:42] <mrd_> i used idm in windows which automatically deect download and increse speed
[10:42] <mrd_> any software  like in ubundu
[10:42] <inttosh> that speaker drop down window where banhsee player appears
[10:42] <brijithmac> inttosh: did u try rebooting...
[10:42] <inttosh> brijithmac, no man this is linux i don't think i need a reboot
[10:43] <RaTTuS|BIG> inttosh - what does speedtest.net say under both windows and ubuntu
[10:43] <inttosh> which applet / mod or service should i restart by /etc/init.d/servicename restart
[10:46] <mrd_> hai
[10:46] <mrd_> ineed help can any one help
[10:46] <mrd_> ineed help can any one help
[10:46] <mrd_> ineed help can any one help
[10:46] <FloodBot1> mrd_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:46] <pepp-elito> Hi, I'm having problems with audio over hdmi in ubuntu 11.04, when the screensaver goes tosleep the audio stops, could this be fixed, i.e keeping audio over hdmi while the screen goes to sleep?
[10:46] <mrd_> iam new to this
[10:47] <mrd_> hello
[10:47] <mrd_> need help
[10:47] <mrd_> need help
[10:47] <inttosh> mrd_, try ubuntu software center. search for download accelerators or try simpleflow
[10:48] <ripthejacker> please some one help install button in software center is grayed out
[10:48] <Slartibart> Are there any channels for iptables specifically?
[10:48] <Kurdistan> is ubuntu using gnome-volume-control?
[10:48] <inttosh> c/simple/steady
[10:48] <inttosh> mrd_, steadyflow
[10:48] <RaTTuS|BIG> mrd_ - what does speedtest.net say under both windows and ubuntu
[10:48] <Kurdistan> I use xubuntu and I wanted ubuntus sound control
[10:48] <loganirc> is there a way to make a shortcut through the GUI
[10:48] <inttosh> Slartibart, that's what i am intrested as well
[10:49] <mrd_> how can i integrate steady flow in the ubundi in browsers
[10:49] <mrd_> how can i integrate steady flow in the ubundi in browsers
[10:49] <mrd_> how can i integrate steady flow in the ubundu  in browsers
[10:49] <Ben64> stop spamming
[10:49] <Ben64> thats not a way to get _any_ help here
[10:49] <inttosh> mrd_, why don't you look for browser extensions / addons
[10:50] <inttosh> mrd_, perhaps you will find something of interest
[10:50] <kag_anil> how much time does it take to install ubuntu 11.10 in virtualBox...?
[10:50] <RaTTuS|BIG> kag_anil - depends
[10:50] <mrd_> i use firefox and crome how to get the extentions on the firfox
[10:50] <kag_anil> on what??
[10:50] <inttosh> urg i forgot my help part
[10:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> kag_anil - a lot of things - your hardware - the lenght of some string - the gods , -
[10:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> kag_anil - but if it's prgresdsing then your'll see - try tail -f /var/log/syslog in a terminal window
[10:51] <ripthejacker> ok so i know why install option is grayed out cuz it thinks my internet connection is up
[10:51] <ripthejacker> *down
[10:52] <inttosh> mrd_, firefox>>tools>>addons
[10:52] <almoxarife> kag_anil: the time is equiv to the virtual machines capabilities, but not hours, worse case 2x the time of the host
i mean on an average... i have i5 processor, 4gb RAM..
[10:52] <ripthejacker> please help
[10:52] <loganirc> is there a way to make a link via the gui or do I have to use the shell to do this
[10:53] <almoxarife> loganirc: via nautilus, easy
[10:53] <loganirc> almoxarife, o.k. how, I don't see an option for it, just new folder
[10:53] <RaTTuS|BIG> kag_anil  - still depends - but 20 mins should do it - YMMV
[10:53] <ripthejacker> somebody help me please
[10:54] <ripthejacker> software center does not recognise my inter connection
[10:54] <almoxarife> loganirc: you must press the 'right click to see the option, if it is avail'
[10:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> ripthejacker sudo apt-get update
[10:54] <loganirc> almoxarife, no such option that I see
[10:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> ripthejacker also see ifconfig | pastebinit
[10:54] <inttosh> how to restart unity applet
[10:54] <loganirc> almoxarife, just create folder and create new document
[10:54] <kag_anil> RaTTUs|BIG: i tried twice for installation in vbox, installation didn't comleted in about 1hr....
[10:55] <ripthejacker> RaTTuS|BIG, i've done apt-get update
[10:55] <Kurdistan> anyone can check which sound volume control ubuntu is using?
[10:55] <RaTTuS|BIG> kag_anil - still on the vbox - have a terminal window open and tail -f /va/log/syslog - and see where it seems to stick - if infact it does
[10:55] <loganirc> almoxarife, ahh, I got it, had to highlight the folder first, makes sense
[10:56] <almoxarife> loganirc: you are clicking on blank buddy
[10:56] <kag_anil> RaTTUs|BIG: kk
[10:58] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: gnome-system-control sound
[10:58] <ripthejacker> RaTTuS|BIG, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1433219
[10:58] <maheanuu> exit
[10:59] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, there is none
[10:59] <Kurdistan> in synaptic
[10:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> ripthejacker - :( looks ok to me ... does sudo apt-get update work ?
[10:59] <ripthejacker> yes
[11:00] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: not to install, on machine
[11:00] <RaTTuS|BIG> :( - beyound my help then ...
[11:00] <ripthejacker> the network manager says im offline !!!
[11:00] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, I use xubuntu.
[11:00] <Kurdistan> but I prefer ubuntus sound control
[11:00] <ripthejacker> because i  am using RP to dial the ppppoe connection
[11:00] <ripthejacker> RP : roaring penguin
[11:01] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: not sure what its called in xu, you need to make that know when asking questions, you may get wrong answers
[11:01]  * RaTTuS|BIG afk for 20mins
[11:01] <mosdef100200> Hi therev has anyone managed to use wine on a knoppix live cd?
[11:01] <almoxarife> mosdef100200: this is not the place to ask
[11:02] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, I know the name in xubuntu.
[11:02] <mosdef100200> i know mate but everwhere else is either dead or i cant post my question
[11:02] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: ok,
[11:02] <mosdef100200> im so close
[11:02] <ripthejacker> mosdef100200, lol
[11:02] <Filesystem0> I just upgraded from 10.04 to 11.10 and Unity runs like trash
[11:03] <Filesystem0> Why did they replace Gnome with this Unity garbage
[11:03] <Filesystem0> its tailored for netbooks yet it runs like shit on Netbooks
[11:03] <Filesystem0> counter productive right thar
[11:03] <almoxarife> Filesystem0: and the question?
[11:04] <Filesystem0> Why did they make it such a bloated bitch to handle
[11:04] <ripthejacker> Filesystem0, yes unity not mean meant for small screens
[11:04] <ripthejacker> *meant
[11:04] <Filesystem0> Yes it is, it started it out their seperate netbook edition
[11:04] <skramer_> Filesystem0: maybe you´ll want to try one of the other flavors... Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu....
[11:04] <almoxarife> Filesystem0: watch the language
[11:04] <Filesystem0> you watch your language
[11:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> !ot
[11:05] <Filesystem0> I think I will go with OpenSUSE, the superior distrobution.
[11:05] <ripthejacker> !mandriva
[11:06] <Guest98678> Hi guys, I'm having trouble configuring virtual hosts on one IP with ubuntu 10.10 and apache2, im using webmin but the virtual hosts I add doesnt seem to work at all, any ideas on what i might be doing wrong?
[11:06] <ikonia> padlefot1: webmin won't work with ubuntu
[11:06] <padlefot1> ikonia: thanx, any alternatives ?
[11:06] <ikonia> padlefot1: ubuntu lays the config files out different to how webmin likes to work, that's why it's not supported
[11:07] <padlefot1> ikonia: maybe i should configure apache in cli then
[11:07] <Filesystem0> or switch to Arch
[11:07] <padlefot1> Linux ?
[11:07] <ikonia> Filesystem0: don't be silly please.
[11:08] <padlefot1> thats a bit drastic on a production server
[11:08] <padlefot1> i am happy with ubuntu since its debian based
[11:08] <padlefot1> I'm sure I can configure it cli
[11:08] <padlefot1> thanx ikonia
[11:08] <Filesystem0> I guess, I like Debian's package management and Ubuntu has alot of community support.
[11:08] <padlefot1> Filesystem0: right on
[11:08] <ripthejacker> !rpm
[11:08] <ikonia> padlefot1: ignoring him (of course you can switch distros if you find one that better fits for you) I would look at removing webmin (problems all the way) and just configure apache in the consoles
[11:09] <ikonia> padlefot1: from there on, it should require little administration going forward, eg: logs are setup to rotate already
[11:09] <padlefot1> ikonia: i noticed, it also compresses
[11:10] <ikonia> the logrotate process does, sure
[11:10] <loganirc> is there a way to set up gadgets on ubuntu 3.0.0-14-generic-pae such as with gnome had on the top bar of the screen
[11:10] <padlefot1> Should I remove webmin by rm -rf or is there some kind of other process ?
[11:10] <ikonia> padlefot1: how did you install it ?
[11:10] <padlefot1> ikonia: I used the setup.sh script
[11:10] <Filesystem0> sudo rm -rf /
[11:10] <Filesystem0> best solution
[11:11] <ikonia> padlefot1: don't do that
[11:11] <sirajperson> filesystem0: From what I see, you are having some trouble with the unity. Before you go and do a re-install of the os, why dont you try this: ccsm > opengl> vsync off
[11:11] <ikonia> it's very dangerous
[11:11] <ikonia> Filesystem0: will be leaving now
[11:11] <sirajperson> that will really help speed things up a bit.
[11:12] <ripthejacker> software center does not detect my internet connection please help
[11:12] <ripthejacker> it says im offline
[11:12] <almoxarife> ripthejacker: yet here you are
[11:12] <ripthejacker> almoxarife, yes!
[11:12] <ikonia> ripthejacker: does anything else (eg; firefox) think you are offline ?
[11:13] <ripthejacker> ikonia, network manager
[11:13] <ikonia> ripthejacker: then you are offline
[11:13] <ripthejacker> ikonia, :P
[11:13] <ripthejacker> ikonia, so how do i tell it im online
[11:13] <ikonia> ripthejacker: use network manager to configure your network and get your self connected
[11:14] <ripthejacker> ikonia, couldnt setup a pppoe connection using network manager so i used rp-pppoe
[11:14] <kag_anil> what does the step Retrieveing file num1/num2,does in installation step in ubuntu ??
[11:15] <ripthejacker> what if i close network manager?
[11:15] <ikonia> ripthejacker: I suspect it's not working and you're not actually connected/online (unless you are talking to me from that machine now)
[11:15] <fidel> kag_anil: most likely that it downloads updated packages via the web - in case you have a connection already
[11:15] <ripthejacker> ikonia, i am talking from that machine now
[11:15] <ikonia> ripthejacker: interesting, if you open the browser, does firefox work ?
[11:16] <ripthejacker> ikonia, i can install using apt-get install
[11:16] <almoxarife> kag_anil: the packages you wanted installed are being downloaded by the app you used to issue the command
[11:16] <ripthejacker> ikonia, yes firefox and everything web works
[11:16] <ikonia> ripthejacker: interesting, software manager shouldn't care then
[11:16] <loganirc> I wanted to have an app on the top bar of the screen that shows the cpu load, is there a way to do that with ubuntu 3.0.0-14
[11:16] <ikonia> ripthejacker: it should just work fine as you have an interenet connection
[11:16] <kag_anil> fidel: i.e. it will increase the installation time...
[11:16] <ripthejacker> ikonia, but its buggin me it says im offline and software center says im not connected to internet
[11:16] <fidel> kag_anil: yes - but decreases the update-time afterwards
[11:17] <ripthejacker> ikonia, some kinda weird bug
[11:17] <popey> loganirc: yes, i have one on my screen
[11:17] <ripthejacker> ?
[11:17] <ikonia> ripthejacker: that really shouldn't be happening, if you have interenet connection, it should work.
[11:17] <fidel> so - dont thing about time at that point
[11:17] <popey> loganirc: system load indicator
[11:17] <fidel> it has to be updated anyways at some point
[11:17] <kag_anil> fidel: i was installing it on virtualBox...
[11:17] <loganirc> popey, how do you enable that
[11:17] <fidel> and?
[11:17] <ripthejacker> ikonia, is there anything i can pastebin so u can  help? please
[11:17] <popey> loganirc: https://launchpad.net/indicator-multiload
[11:17] <fidel> still then you want up-to-date packages in most cases or am i wrong?
[11:18] <popey> loganirc: add the ppa and install it
[11:18] <ikonia> ripthejacker: I'm just thinking in my head of why it would be suggesting you are offline
[11:18] <kag_anil> fidel: you are right, bt i have ubuntu 11.04 on my along side windows and i am doing some testing stuff in vbox... thats it...
[11:19] <fidel> kag_anil: well - next time configure the vm-network-connectivity after the installation
[11:19] <ripthejacker> ikonia, one reason maybe because i dint use network manager to dial the connection
[11:19] <fidel> like that the install-process cant access the network - skips that part
[11:19] <ikonia> ripthejacker: I can see how that's a reasonable guess to make, but it really shouldn't matter
[11:19] <almoxarife> ikonia: what network-manager does not manage does not exist to it?
[11:19] <kag_anil> fidel: yups, will do that from next time..., thnx for help...
[11:19] <ikonia> almoxarife: that shouldn't matter to other applications though
[11:20] <pepp-elito> Hi, I'm having problems with audio over hdmi in ubuntu 11.04, when the screensaver goes tosleep the audio stops, could this be fixed, i.e keeping audio over hdmi while the screen goes to sleep?
[11:20] <fidel> kag_anil: np
[11:20] <ikonia> almoxarife: eg: software center should just do a http get on the url - if it responds, there is internet connection, if not, no
[11:20] <almoxarife> ikonia: si, unless they look to network-manager
[11:20] <ikonia> almoxarife: it really shouldn't
[11:20] <popey> ikonia: many apps rely on the network manager state to know if they're online or not
[11:20] <ripthejacker> almoxarife, and i suppose thats what is happening
[11:21] <loganirc> popey, trying to find the add ppa option from the software center
[11:21] <popey> ikonia: firefox and evolution to name but two
[11:21] <ikonia> popey: but software center......
[11:21] <ikonia> popey: that can't the case, as firefox is working fine
[11:21] <puff_> guys I just noticed there is a hugr difference in upgrading to 11.10 and using the install disk
[11:21] <popey> ikonia: you can override it at the app level, so yes it can
[11:21] <ikonia> (according to ripthejacker )
[11:21] <ikonia> popey: how do you override it within software center ?
[11:21] <puff_> I mush prefer the clean install
[11:21] <almoxarife> ripthejacker: install synaptic, software center is bloated
[11:22] <popey> ikonia: dunno, just testing
[11:22] <ikonia> ripthejacker: well there is a big chunk of the answer as popey has said.
[11:23] <popey> ikonia: yup, if you have network manager offline, USC shows 'No network connection'
[11:23] <ripthejacker> ikonia, USC has so less option and there definitely nothing there related to internet connection
[11:23] <popey> ikonia: as soon as you go online, the reviews appear and 'install' becomes available
[11:23] <ripthejacker> ikonia, installing synaptics :P
[11:23] <popey> ikonia: file a bug ☺
[11:24] <almoxarife> ripthejacker: 'synaptic'
[11:24] <ripthejacker> almoxarife, yeah synaptic
[11:24] <ikonia> ripthejacker: there you go, as popey a bug is worth while on this
[11:24] <ikonia> "as popey said"
[11:25]  * popey files one
[11:25] <ikonia> thank you popey
[11:25] <ripthejacker> ikonia, there is just one entry in route table
[11:25] <ripthejacker> does it matter?
[11:26] <ikonia> ripthejacker: really shouldn't matter, default gateway is all that is normally there
[11:26] <ripthejacker> no eth0 and no lo
[11:26] <ripthejacker> ikonia, ok
[11:26] <ikonia> ripthejacker: lo is the loop back so shouldn't have a route
[11:26] <ripthejacker> thanks ikonia and popey
[11:26] <ikonia> ripthejacker: eth0 - are you using eth0 ?
[11:26] <SVNDR> Is there anyway i can use the default terminal to connect to another server?
[11:26] <ripthejacker> ikonia, yes
[11:27] <ikonia> ripthejacker: ok, so there should be a default route for eth0 to use
[11:27] <_ikke_> SVNDR: SSH
[11:27] <ripthejacker> default route is ppp0
[11:27] <ikonia> ripthejacker: that's fine
[11:27] <SVNDR> _ikke_: cheers
[11:28] <SVNDR> _ikke_: wait, how do i do that? will i need to install a package?
[11:29] <_ikke_> afaik, not
[11:29] <c_nick1> SVN for Linux ?
[11:29] <ikonia> c_nick1: what about it ?
[11:29] <c_nick1> used to tortoise on windows.. is there an equivalent on Linux Ubuntu
[11:29] <SVNDR> c_nick1: yea, linux
[11:29] <popey> ikonia / ripthejacker bug 911706
[11:29] <ikonia> c_nick1: if you search for svn in the package manager, you'll find a few options
[11:29] <ikonia> popey: thanks on both reponses.
[11:30] <popey> np
[11:31] <rypervenche> SVNDR: It's already installed.
[11:31] <ripthejacker> popey, thanks for the help
[11:31] <SVNDR> rypervenche: everytime i try it keeps telling me that it cannot resolve, although i know im entering the correct details
[11:31] <rypervenche> SVNDR: ssh username@IPaddress
[11:32] <rypervenche> SVNDR: Are you doing it over the Internet or through your local network?
[11:32] <SVNDR> rypervenche: oh ok, so i cant use the hostname? just the IP?
[11:32] <rypervenche> SVNDR: You can use the hostname. Have you forwarded port 22 to the machine you're trying to connect to?
[11:33] <ripthejacker> popey, so thats means there is another bug
[11:33] <ripthejacker> thats network manager too cant detect my internet connection
[11:33] <ripthejacker> and synaptic works fine :)
[11:33] <SVNDR> rypervenche: the server im trying to connect to blocks port 22 so i use a different once.. on the machine im trying to ssh with i dont know if i have setup port forwarding, no
[11:34] <rypervenche> SVNDR: Which port are you using?
[11:34] <SVNDR> rypervenche: 15999, also its not local
[11:34] <rypervenche> SVNDR: You will need to forward port 15999 to the machine you're trying to access.
[11:35] <SVNDR> rypervenche: and how might i do that? lol
[11:35] <rypervenche> SVNDR: You must go into your router config, probably 192.168.1.1 in a browser from the computer you want to SSH into.
[11:36] <SVNDR> rypervenche: i dont use a router, i use tethered internet from my mobile.. lol
[11:37] <c_nick1> how can i get it my ubuntu machine in remote
[11:37] <rypervenche> SVNDR: For that you would probably need to reverse SSH, but you'll need a middleman as far as I know, which it doesn't sound like you have.
[11:38] <SVNDR> rypervenche: definately not, no
[11:38] <SVNDR> rypervenche: costly? or free?
[11:38] <raven> 11.10 + xfce: after opening home-folder desktop changes to blue and looses icons and i cannot change background image then. what is this?
[11:39] <rypervenche> It would be a computer that you SSH into, that has its ports forwarded
[11:40] <raven> 11.10 + xfce: after opening home-folder desktop changes to blue and looses icons and i cannot change background image then. what is this?
[11:40] <SVNDR> rypervenche: oh yea, nah wouldnt be able to i dont think.. i just tried SSH again, this time it didnt come up with unreselved, it just stalled and done nothing
[11:41] <rypervenche> SVNDR: So the computer you're trying to access is using tethered Internet?
[11:42] <SVNDR> rypervenche: my computer im using right now is using tethered, the one im trying to access is a server in whoop whoop lol
[11:42] <rypervenche> in whoop whoop?
[11:42] <SVNDR> yes, far away land.. lol im in Aus, its in USA somewhere
[11:44] <rypervenche> SVNDR: You're going to have to have someone do it for you then.
[11:44] <loganirc> popey, you still there? got the system load indicator installed, but how do I get it to show up on the upper bar of the screen, do I need to configure it as a starup app, launch it manually log in or log oout or something else?
[11:45] <loganirc> popey, I launched it manually, but should be automatic
[11:45] <SVNDR> rypervenche: alright no probs, in the mean time ill use putty with wine
[11:46] <SVNDR> rypervenche: thanks
[11:47] <loganirc> just installed system load monitor? how do I configure that to start up automatically on login, do I need tto configure it manually with the startup apps?
[11:47] <raven> 11.10 + xfce: after opening home-folder desktop changes to blue and looses icons and i cannot change background image then. what is this?
[11:48] <rypervenche> SVNDR: That still won't work
[11:48] <puff_> raven: i have noticed that occasionaly nothing a good reboot won't fix
[11:48] <thor_> Non-ports daily iso what is it??
[11:49] <puff_> I have noticed a lot less problems on a clean install after using the updaye manager
[11:49] <puff_> *update
[11:49] <SVNDR> rypervenche: ive been using putty all arvo, its working fine lol
[11:49] <puff_> and there were some new changes that I didn't get on the upgrade
[11:49] <loganirc> anybody know how to configure apps to start up on login?
[11:50] <loganirc> is there  a system settings option for this?
[11:50] <puff_> loganirc: you see the little cog icon in the top bar?
[11:50] <SVNDR> rypervenche: im using putty to connect directly to the server though
[11:50] <rypervenche> SVNDR: You've been using putty to SSH into the computer?
[11:50] <rypervenche> SVNDR: Then the port is forwarded
[11:50] <puff_> there is a listing for startup applications there
[11:50] <puff_> just add it
[11:51] <SVNDR> rypervenche: oh right.. so why wont it work with terminal?
[11:51] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks. I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 witha  dual-monitor setup. Is there any way of switching workspaces on monitors sepparately?
[11:51] <rypervenche> SVNDR: It should, are you typing the same command?
[11:51] <rypervenche> SVNDR: Show me the command you're using
[11:51] <puff_> after updates I have to reboot brb :D
[11:52] <loganirc> puff, yes thanks
[11:54] <KrisDouglas> Hello, I have a problem with the networking on my machine. It seems it takes an ice age to resolve web pages, pinging the server isn't too slow and a Windows VM on the same machine, same network adapter is working fine. Any thoughts?
[11:54] <acid-melt-system> are you on a wireless ?
[11:54] <KrisDouglas> acid-melt-system, nope, ethernet all the way to the router
[11:55] <SVNDR> rypervenche: i noticed the command im using to you
[11:55] <acid-melt-system> hmm
[11:55] <acid-melt-system> is your host ubuntu ?
[11:55] <KrisDouglas> it is indeed
[11:56] <KrisDouglas> here is a traceroute should it help: http://pastebin.com/Kf0KDCBj
[11:56] <acid-melt-system> and you're saying ur network is slow
[11:56] <ahad_> hi
[11:56] <acid-melt-system> what kind of network card u got ?
[11:56] <KrisDouglas> the internal network is fine, i can access the NAS without issue
[11:56] <KrisDouglas> but to the internet it's terrible
[11:56] <TheHackOps> Hey hey hey
[11:56] <KrisDouglas> but only from the host, the Windows guest is perfect.
[11:57] <acid-melt-system> could be a driver issue ?
[11:57] <acid-melt-system> with ur network card and ubuntu ? ?
[11:57] <nipolar> hola??
[11:57] <KrisDouglas> it was working fine up until about an hour ago
[11:57] <KrisDouglas> (working fine for about 2 years)
[11:57] <acid-melt-system> i have a realtek card its a internal build in on my asustek board
[11:58] <acid-melt-system> and it works fine to me
[11:58] <TheHackOps> Just a quick permissions question, i recently had to install after a failed update (AGAIN) and i backed up all my stuff now when i reclaim the permissions using sudo nautilis and change it and then apply it to all recurring directories as soon as i reboot the permissions change back
[11:58] <acid-melt-system> what version of ubuntu u have ?
[11:58] <KrisDouglas> 11.10
[11:59] <acid-melt-system> did u had any recent updates ?
[11:59] <rypervenche> SVNDR: When you use Putty do you use a different port other than 22?
[11:59] <KrisDouglas> acid-melt-system, nope
[11:59] <acid-melt-system> because i've been having alot issues with ubuntu lately but i somehow corrected them
[11:59] <acid-melt-system> maybe someone is lagging ur network
[11:59] <acid-melt-system> u piss off anyone LOL
[12:00] <KrisDouglas> acid-melt-system, nope, because it's working fine from the 20+ other machines we have
[12:00] <acid-melt-system> did u try rebooting ?
[12:00] <SVNDR> rypervenche: yea, im using the same port i told you before
[12:00] <acid-melt-system> i never had any problems with my network card when it came to LAN
[12:00] <acid-melt-system> but with USB wifi adapters are a pain in the ass
[12:01] <KrisDouglas> acid-melt-system, depends where you get them from and what the chip is
[12:01] <acid-melt-system> and mounting USB and NTFS format was an issue before , but now i corrected them
[12:01] <acid-melt-system> a very cool tool u people should all use is Remastersys
[12:01] <theadmin> TheHackOps: "sudo nautilus" isn't ever gonna work, you need "gksu nautilus" OR just use good old chown and chmod
[12:01] <rypervenche> SVNDR: Sorry, that's a bit ambiguous. You're using 22 or not 22?
[12:02] <acid-melt-system> this tool can like clone ur desktop and the apps
[12:02] <acid-melt-system> and it makes a live iso image
[12:02] <TheHackOps> theadmin, i tried that aswell
[12:02] <TheHackOps> ohh root gksu
[12:02] <TheHackOps> kk
[12:02] <TheHackOps> cheer
[12:02] <acid-melt-system> like i said
[12:02] <TheHackOps> cheers*
[12:02] <acid-melt-system> Remastersys ur desktop when its stable and the way u like it
[12:03] <acid-melt-system> and burn the iso on a disc or put it on a usb
[12:03] <acid-melt-system> keep it in a safe place
[12:03] <acid-melt-system> if any problems
[12:03] <acid-melt-system> just pop that in
[12:03] <acid-melt-system> and guess what
[12:03] <acid-melt-system> u have ur system reinstalled
[12:03] <acid-melt-system> with all ur settings
[12:03] <rypervenche> SVNDR: I just PMed you the proper command to use. You need to specify the port you want to use.
[12:03] <acid-melt-system> apps
[12:03] <FloodBot1> acid-melt-system: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <acid-melt-system> etc. . .
[12:03] <acid-melt-system> hahaha
[12:04] <acid-melt-system> oops
[12:04] <Kronen> how do i find out what sound server xine is using for delivering audio to my speakers
[12:04] <acid-melt-system> lpci ?
[12:05] <acid-melt-system> brb
[12:05] <acid-melt-system> terminal is ur best friend in linux
[12:05] <acid-melt-system> remember
[12:05] <acid-melt-system> that . . ..
[12:05] <SVNDR> rypervenche: legend mate, works a treat.. will i have to do it that way everytime? or just a one off?
[12:05] <TheHackOps> theadmin, This aint working i need to give 777 on everything under a certain directory
[12:05] <Kronen> no lpci command...
[12:05] <theadmin> TheHackOps: sudo chmod -R 777 your_directory
[12:05] <TheHackOps> that includes sub sub sub directorys and files
[12:05] <fidel> acid-melt-system: did you see the message from the bot regarding punctuation? ;)
[12:05] <acid-melt-system> oops
[12:06] <dabukalam> Kronen, lspci
[12:06] <acid-melt-system> lspci
[12:06] <acid-melt-system> my bad
[12:06] <acid-melt-system> typo thank you dabukalam
[12:06] <theadmin> !enter | acid-melt-system
[12:06] <lonzewos> het! /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | any ideas?
[12:07] <Kronen> dabukalam: acid-melt-system : output at http://pastebin.com/eUhdVnvQ
[12:07] <rypervenche> SVNDR: Yes, just make an alias so you only have to type something simple
[12:08] <TheHackOps> Dammit i want to scream so loud right now nothing is working
[12:08] <rypervenche> SVNDR: at the end of ~/.bashrc or make a file named ~/.bash_aliases and include...
[12:08] <KrisDouglas> Kronen, xine will choose a sound server to use based on your system afaik. try "cat ~/.xine/config" to see if it's specified there
[12:08] <TheHackOps> Chmod doesn't change a thing
[12:09] <dr_willis> TheHackOps:  you are not trying to chmod/chown on a mounted ntfs/vfat filesystem are you?
[12:09] <rypervenche> SVNDR: sent alias to PM
[12:09] <KrisDouglas> Kronen, acid-melt-system, lspci shows the device that the system has for sound, but not the driver being used for it.
[12:09] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, Nope ext4
[12:09] <Kronen> KrisDouglas: only relevant-seeming line might be "audio.device.alsa_front_device:default"
[12:09] <acid-melt-system> cool i just made my own distro :P
[12:09] <SVNDR> rypervenche: your the man!! cheers heaps for that hey
[12:09] <acid-melt-system> i need to test this out dude this is neat o
[12:10] <dr_willis> TheHackOps:  Ok. :) I just see people in here every week trying to chmod files on ntfs.. No idea why it wouldent work on a ext4.  Unless the fs is read only.
[12:10] <lonzewos> Please! any ideas with trying to compile with gcc "/usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory collect2: ld returned 1 "
[12:10] <KrisDouglas> Kronen, which would lead me to believe that xine is using ALSA
[12:10] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, I hate bothering you guys for help since i normally help others but im pretty desperate
[12:10] <TheHackOps> also remember me?
[12:11] <dr_willis> TheHackOps:  check dmesg output? what sort of error does it give when you chmod  a file?
[12:11] <hoogle> aa
[12:11] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, Well my files seem readable now this is wierd...
[12:12] <Teratogen> what is the difference between dmesg and /var/log/messages?\
[12:12] <Teratogen> what is the difference between dmesg and /var/log/messages?
[12:12] <TheHackOps> Cheers guys now who can i helps
[12:12] <dr_willis> TheHackOps:  :)  dare we ask why you are using 777 ? ;)
[12:12] <Kronen> KrisDouglas: thanks
[12:12] <theadmin> Yeah ffs 777 is evil
[12:12] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, Coz im the only one who uses this laptop and there for i want full access all round
[12:12] <theadmin> dr_willis is right
[12:12] <SVNDR> rypervenche: will need one more thing though lol, where am i creating the ~/.bash_aliases folder?
[12:12] <TheHackOps> 777 Is last resort where im at atm
[12:13] <theadmin> SVNDR: It is a file not a folder
[12:13] <dr_willis> sees odd making data files executable.. if they are not actual executable files...
[12:13] <theadmin> ^ that
[12:13] <TheHackOps> Its music
[12:13] <dr_willis> if you have a single user. you should be able to set the owner to be your user. and thats about all you need to do.
[12:13] <SVNDR> rypervenche: thats what i meant, but im a newb to ubuntu, and havent quite worked out the file system.. have a hard enough time locating C: as it is ;p
[12:14] <dr_willis> unless you got somthing else going on.
[12:14] <TheHackOps> dr_willis, You know how my upgrades and updates allways break my system? well i decided screw it and just clean installed and backup my files
[12:14] <Kronen> KrisDouglas: so any idea why my music in amarok plays on my computer, but not on my headphones, even though it says "switching to headphones" when I plug them in (USB headphones)
[12:14] <TheHackOps> Hence i don't own these files
[12:15] <r0s> Hello, I want to use a package from natty in my oneiric ubuntu but apt refuses to install it. Do you know what do I need to do to force apt to let me do it? (Its ROS diamondback the package I want)
[12:16] <TheHackOps> r0s, Have you checked why is won't install
[12:16] <SVNDR> rypervenche: all good, got it sorted, thanks again mate
[12:16] <theadmin> TheHackOps: So set the ownership to your user: sudo chmod -R username your_folder
[12:16] <rypervenche> SVNDR: No problem, enjoy.
[12:16] <TheHackOps> theadmin, Well that works untill i reboot...
[12:17] <theadmin> TheHackOps: Huh. Is there a setuid flag on your filesystem? Or are these files on some NTFS/FAT device?
[12:17] <TheHackOps> Ohh enter my username
[12:17] <TheHackOps> Derp
[12:17] <huttan> theadmin: chmod works for ownership aswell?
[12:17] <TheHackOps> no i just derped sooo hard
[12:17] <r0s> TheHackOps: the error is exactly what you can find here posted: http://answers.ros.org/question/244/installing-on-new-ubuntu-1010-problems-diamondback but im on ubuntu 11.10 I'm using a software source for natty because there isnt one for oneiric for that version of ROS diamondback
[12:17] <theadmin> huttan: Bah
[12:17] <theadmin> TheHackOps: Sorry. sudo chown -R username your_folder # chown, not chmod
[12:17] <TheHackOps> theadmin, i just uber derped
[12:17] <dr_willis> TheHackOps:  odd.. i always own my files on clean installs. :) i always re-add the new users in teh same order. so the uid/gids are the same.
[12:17] <theadmin> huttan: Sorry, always mix the two up
[12:18] <huttan> theadmin: haha easy made, glad its sorted out :)
[12:18] <KrisDouglas> chown is CHange Owner and chmod CHange MODe, TheHackOps
[12:18] <theadmin> huttan: I hardly ever use those two, mostly I just "setfacl"
[12:18] <TheHackOps> KrisDouglas, Hence why i said derp coz i should have known that being a network admin :(
[12:18] <huttan> theadmin: i gotta man that, never used it, thanks
[12:18] <dr_willis> i dont recall ever using setfacl :)
[12:19] <TheHackOps> Dang i feel sillyz
[12:19] <dr_willis> TheHackOps:  :) was using chmod when you needed chown?
[12:19] <TheHackOps> Ysudo chown -R username your_folder
[12:19] <TheHackOps> yup
[12:19] <TheHackOps> whoops
[12:19] <dr_willis> now ya know why we all stared at you funny when you wanted to use 777 :P
[12:20]  * TheHackOps slaps self super hard
[12:20] <r0s> TheHackOps: I feel I need to use some command in my apt-get install to force it to install everything anyways, but -f or -m do not do anything. Or trick apt to think it's an oneiric source or something
[12:21] <dr_willis> bbl. :)
[12:21] <TheHackOps> r0s, Is it a compatibility issue or key issue
[12:21] <TheHackOps> aww yeh you guys are smexy
[12:21] <enchilado> I know I am
[12:21] <TheHackOps> Fixed my epicly silly problemz
[12:22] <TheHackOps> Do you guys think i should play russian roulete and update my system?
[12:22] <rockband> hi all, I suddenly run '
[12:22] <rockband>  mv /* /var/lib/ as root from SSH...is therea comeback??
[12:22] <theadmin> rockband: Uhhh... nope >.<
[12:22] <huttan> TheHackOps: kernel or whole dist?
[12:22] <gulzar> what is the alternative for gnome-disk-utility and gparted for KDE?
[12:22] <rockband> 11.x
[12:23] <TheHackOps> huttan, kernal + a bunch of other stuff its a fresh of 11.10
[12:23] <TheHackOps> huttan, 99% of updates seem to break my system
[12:23] <rockband> can i restore from the folder
[12:23] <huttan> TheHackOps: yeah man, i always optimize my kernels
[12:23] <ripthejacker> rockband, omg lol
[12:23] <TheHackOps> huttan, not that it matters coz i can allways go into grub and choose the last one but still
[12:23] <TheHackOps> huttan, its so anoying
[12:24] <rockband> assuming it moved the files.
[12:24] <rockband> or all is lost
[12:24] <TheHackOps> btw pae kernal is awesome i can use my 6bg on 32bit
[12:24] <huttan> TheHackOps: Sorry mate, but i have to work :(
[12:24] <huttan> good luck
[12:24] <TheHackOps> defying everything i have been taught
[12:24] <TheHackOps> Ha theres 9 bullets loaded out of 10
[12:25] <TheHackOps> :)
[12:25] <lonzewos> Hey! plese, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/MQwnGsYq
[12:25] <KrisDouglas> TheHackOps, I found the PAE kernel was trying to torture me, moved to 64 bit without issue now. i was expecting LOADS of problems
[12:26] <TheHackOps> KrisDouglas, PAE Seems fine to me its slightly faster on my system but im scared to update and also unity lags a little like for example when i click the black ubuntu thingi it takes 4 secconds
[12:26] <KrisDouglas> TheHackOps, for some reason the PAE played havock with the interface performance on my machine, 64 bit just fixed it outright.
[12:26] <KrisDouglas> interface as in GUI that is
[12:27] <TheHackOps> KrisDouglas, Oh well im not going though the tourture of reinstalling
[12:27] <glebihan> rockband, that's not the answer you want to hear, but as already said, if you actually ran that command, you destroyed your system
[12:27] <lonzewos> nobody!?
[12:27] <lonzewos> nobody!?
[12:27] <sofw> Buenas alguna idea de como instalar jdownloader en ubuntu 11.10 con gnome
[12:27] <theadmin> !repeat | lonzewos
[12:27] <theadmin> !es | sofw
[12:28] <lonzewos> fuck!
[12:28] <ikonia> lonzewos: drop the language please.
[12:28] <raven> 11.10 + xfce: after opening home-folder desktop changes to blue and looses icons and i cannot change background image then. what is this?
[12:28] <TheHackOps> well cya people
[12:29] <KrisDouglas> lonzewos, the reaon you have not had an answer is because nobody knows what the problem is, if you please wait patiently i'm sure someone will help you find a solution. Alternatively, try the Ubuntu Forums.
[12:31] <KrisDouglas> I'm sure ubottu says something like that but I can't remember the command :P
[12:31] <raven> 11.10 + xfce: after opening home-folder desktop changes to blue and looses icons and i cannot change background image then. what is this?
[12:32] <theadmin> KrisDouglas: !patience
[12:33] <theadmin> raven: What filemanager do you use for XFCE? If it's Nautilus, please don't. It tries to manage the desktop itself and kills xfdesktop
[12:34] <KrisDouglas> theadmin, ta :)
[12:34] <raven> theadmin, yes it is nautilus because thunar is no option
[12:34] <theadmin> raven: Why not?...
[12:35] <theadmin> raven: Use pcmanfm then or anything, just not nautilus. Or make XFCE run "natuilus --no-desktop" if you really need nautilus for some reason.
[12:35] <raven> theadmin, ok tnx
[12:36] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks. I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 witha dual-monitor setup. Is there any way of switching workspaces on monitors sepparately?
[12:38] <Kronen> ok, my sound is totally hosed - can't get anything out after installing pulseaudio
[12:38] <Kronen> (although I installed pulseaudio because the sound was kind of screwy before)
[12:39] <cypha> how can I setup dual screens?
[12:39] <Guest51394> ...
[12:40] <GeorgeJ> cypha: Just plug both screens in, and setup a resolution
[12:40] <slikts> theadmin: !patience
[12:40] <theadmin> slikts: Huh?...
[12:40] <slikts> just testing !patience
[12:41] <theadmin> slikts: Not how you do it
[12:41] <fidel> ;)
[12:41] <slikts> or is it
[12:41] <theadmin> !patience | slikts
[12:41] <almoxarife> Kronen: what was it before?
[12:41] <theadmin> ! has to be the first character in the message for ubottu to understand it
[12:41] <theadmin> ubottu: Sorry
[12:41] <Kronen> almoxarife: alsa, apparently
[12:42] <cypha> GeorgeJ, do you know if that works with vbox?
[12:42] <almoxarife> Kronen: on ubuntu?
[12:42] <m31> greeting and salutations
[12:42] <GeorgeJ> cypha: Probably
[12:43] <cypha> GeorgeJ, how do I get to the resolution from the CL?
[12:43] <Kronen> almoxarife: kubuntu
[12:43] <almoxarife> Kronen: go to #kubuntu unless you want gnome fixes to a kde issue
[12:44] <Kronen> almoxarife: any fix would be good at this stage ;)
[12:44] <cypha> better question...what should I make my screen resolution within xorg.conf to support dual monitors?
[12:45] <cypha> doubling what I currently have (I think it's 1280x1024) is fine
[12:45] <almoxarife> Kronen: #kubuntu, we can talk about it there if you would like
[12:45] <cypha> actually on Windows, it's 1440x900
[12:46] <cypha> where can I find xorg.conf?
[12:46] <Kronen> almoxarife: I'm there as well now, as you've noticed ;)
[12:46] <cypha> is the Dr. in the house?
[12:47] <cypha> dr_willis,
[12:47] <Kronen> cypha: /etc/X11
[12:47] <Kronen> cypha: locate xorg.conf
[12:47] <cypha> thank you
[12:47] <cypha> any idea what I might add to have dual montiors?
[12:48] <fidel> cypha: afaik xorg is almost self-generating those days - i.e. i dont have to configure anything in case i plug a second screen to my ubuntu-box
[12:48] <Kronen> cypha: not sure - i'd use the graphical config tool for that
[12:48] <cypha> damn, must be cuz I'm running ubuntu on vbox
[12:49] <cypha> i'm running openbox too
[12:49] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks. I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 witha dual-monitor setup. Is there any way of switching workspaces on monitors sepparately?
[12:49] <SVNDR> Is there anyway to bypass internet sites that arent linux compatible??
[12:49] <theadmin> SVNDR: lolwut?
[12:50] <GeorgeJ> SVNDR: That's a really stupid question.
[12:50] <fidel> SVNDR: how is a site non linux compatible?
[12:50] <rypervenche> Google: "Sorry, we don't support Linux, please try again later."
[12:50] <theadmin> SVNDR: Sites can't depend on an OS
[12:50] <ontosh> is there any other launchpad except unity. actually i don't like its auto sliding feature
[12:50] <fidel> SVNDR: show us an example please ;)
[12:50] <theadmin> ontosh: Uh tons
[12:50] <SVNDR> theadmin: ok visit www.homestead.com and tell me what you get the smart ass
[12:50] <iceroot> theadmin: i dont think so.....
[12:50] <ontosh> c/launchpad/launchbar
[12:51] <iceroot> theadmin: ever used IE6 only sap-solutions?
[12:51] <GeorgeJ> SVNDR: Works for me ...
[12:51] <fidel> SVNDR: that page loads here without issues
[12:51] <SVNDR> GeorgeJ: with firefox?
[12:51] <theadmin> iceroot: Would be the only case when it requires some IE stuff, yeah
[12:51] <GeorgeJ> SVNDR: Way to spam ...
[12:51] <GeorgeJ> Ofcourse, the default browser in Ubuntu
[12:51] <rypervenche> SVNDR: Works fine here too. Way to go, dumbass ~_^
[12:52] <fidel> SVNDR: could it be that you are just missing some working flash-conf?
[12:52] <SVNDR> yea ok, not try create an account and login, dumbass's
[12:52] <theadmin> I'm using Chromium, but it does work fine too
[12:52] <fidel> SVNDR: fix your language
[12:52] <RaTTuS|BIG> SVNDR - be more polite please
[12:52] <GeorgeJ> SVNDR: Learn English.
[12:52] <rypervenche> SVNDR: You probably just ended the help you're going to get from people...
[12:53] <theadmin> SVNDR: You're just trying to trick us into registering at something stupid and useless. Out.
[12:53] <GeorgeJ> http://www.homestead.com/~site/go/start.ffhtml?SPTID=LoWebsiteCustomers_TryButton_Nav&TARGET=/~site/Signup/TrialSignup.ffhtml
[12:53] <theadmin> !ops | SVNDR
[12:53] <gry> Just went to smb://hostnameoriphere/, it mounted at ~/.gvfs/ ; how do I unmount / disconnect from that?
[12:53] <ikonia> theadmin: I'm here
[12:53] <theadmin> ikonia: Oh :D
[12:53] <SVNDR> well why the hell is everyone laughing like its a joke.. clearly it aint working..
[12:53] <gry> SVNDR, what isn't?
[12:53] <ikonia> SVNDR: please state your problem clearly, and lets see
[12:53] <GeorgeJ> It's not Ubuntu's fault that website is stupid, and the answer to your intial question(even if the question was stupid) is yes.
[12:54] <GeorgeJ> SVNDR: Make a list of all the stupid websites, and block them
[12:55] <SVNDR> http://www.filedump.net/index.php?pic=screenshotat201201042353301325681690.png   - there you go, just so you all know i aint crazy..
[12:55] <GeorgeJ> SVNDR: Read what I've told you
[12:56] <ikonia> SVNDR: the error is clear, that site doesn't support linux based browsers
[12:56] <GeorgeJ> SVNDR: If by "bypass" you mean, access the websites anyway, then yes. You can easily change your browser's UserAgent.
[12:57] <xrfang> hello, I have a question about repository.   how do I switch between "stable" and "unstable" source of the same program? i.e. a program has version 1.0 in "stable" and version 1.1 in "testing", I enabled both repositories, now I wan to install the version I choose, and especially, downgrade to v1.0 if 1.1 is not ok. thanks
[12:57] <GeorgeJ> I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 witha dual-monitor setup. Is there any way of switching workspaces on monitors sepparately?
[12:57] <fidel> xrfang: talking about a specific ppa?
[12:57] <SVNDR> ikonia: i ussed firefox on windows and it worked fine.. im guessing linux uses different file types (duh) but then what client will work?
[12:57] <xrfang> fidel, not a ppa, but I setup a private repo using reprepo in office.
[12:57] <ikonia> SVNDR: it's the fact that it's running on linux that won't work
[12:58] <fidel> SVNDR: most likely the site-admin is just stupid/lazy or both
[12:58] <ikonia> xrfang: be very careful, as if you switch to testing it may upgrade other things as dependencies, which are then hardware to downgrade
[12:58] <GeorgeJ> ikonia: Wrong. I gave him a sollution allready, he just didn't bother to read it.
[12:58] <fidel> or .... what might happen as well -using some pretty strange tech ;)
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  the website 'sees' that you are running linux and  won't continue because of it
[12:59] <xrfang> ikonia, I don't understand, you mean, switch to "testing" is GLOBAL, not for a specific program?
[12:59] <iceroot> SVNDR: i guess you ae just missing something like flash
[12:59] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: it's not wrong, that site is not setup to work with linux based browsers, he can try to fool it, but what's the point,
[12:59] <iceroot> SVNDR: or whatever the site is using
[12:59] <ikonia> xrfang: depends on the repo, if your repo contains only one application, then yes, if it's a development repo with more than that one application, then no, you'd have to look at application "pinning"
[12:59] <ikonia> !pinning | xrfang
[12:59] <SVNDR> ikonia: i got email on there that id like to be able to access on here (linux)
[12:59] <GeorgeJ> ikonia: That is irrelevant, firefox's rendered behaves no differently to my knowledge on linux than from windoes, or mac.
[12:59] <fidel> SVNDR: best thing you can do besides trying to fool the page is writing to the site-admin and ask to fix that stupid browser-string-check
[13:00] <GeorgeJ> renderer*
[13:00] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: I'm sure it does, I'm not disputing that
[13:00] <xrfang> ikonia, so you are saying that the "global" I asked, apply to a specific repo, not all entries in the source.list file, right?
[13:01] <xrfang> i.e., it affect all applications provided by the same source?
[13:01] <ikonia> xrfang: if you add a repo that contains 200 packages, then those 200 packages will be available for upgrade
[13:01] <ikonia> xrfang: if you add a repo with 1 application, only that one will be available
[13:01] <Auk> Is it by any chance safe to use "TRIM" in an encrypted filesystem on Ubuntu? Where it's installed on a Solid State Drive.
[13:01] <SVNDR> iceroot: how do i download flash for linux then?
[13:01] <xrfang> ok, that's cool, my repo only apply to a small number of related packages
[13:01] <GeorgeJ> Is there any way of switching workspaces sepparately on each monitor in Unity?
[13:01] <iceroot>  !flash | SVNDR
[13:01] <ikonia> Auk: shouldn't be a problem
[13:02] <SVNDR> iceroot: cheers
[13:02] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: I don't think so,
[13:02] <Auk> ikonia: I heard of issues that TRIM will not work properly.
[13:02] <ikonia> Auk: possible, but I'm not aware of any
[13:02] <xrfang> but, if I add both testing and main (i.e. two entries in the source.list file), only the testing repo will be used by APT?
[13:02] <xrfang> (except for pinning, I mean, now reading...)
[13:02] <ikonia> GeorgeJ: possibly if you use xinerama, but that never used to work in gnome 2 so I have no reason to think it's been updated in gnome 3
[13:02] <Auk> ikonia: Wait, you're using it (by any chance)? o_O
[13:03] <ikonia> Auk: not at the moment, I have done it on a Fedora machine.
[13:03] <Auk> Wow. I think I should've invested on a regular harddrive.
[13:03] <iceroot> xrfang: every repo will be used you put in the sources.list
[13:03] <Auk> Oh well, I did got warranty on it.
[13:04] <Auk> Thanks for the answers ikonia.
[13:04] <Auk> Laters!
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> Auk  wikipedia: "Linux 2.6.33Feb 2010[29]Not all filesystems make use of TRIM. Ext4 and Btrfs are known to support it[30]"
[13:05] <Auk> MonkeyDust: But this concerns about while using an encrypted  solid state drive or file system.
[13:05] <Nuukia_> when i create unbutu on a 40 gig hdd i give unbutu 21 gig space to install but now linux say it haven got enough space i google it but no awser sry for the flaws
[13:05] <xrfang> so, pinning requires configuration file change, can't be done on command line? :(
[13:06] <Auk> Why encrypted? I heard it's almost impossible to "Perm erase" an SSD.
[13:07] <xcoy> warning
[13:10] <Teratogen> what is the difference between dmesg and /var/log/messages?
[13:11] <SVNDR> theadmin, GeorgeJ: I may have stated my question unclearly, but either way in the end both your answers were RONG!!! so really maybe you shoulda of kept quiet in the first place.. OUT. xD
[13:11] <slikts> you're rong and will die ronely
[13:11] <Teratogen> you spelled RONG WRONG
[13:11] <theadmin> SVNDR: "wrong" is a website which will not support Linux. Their fault, not mine. Anyway, it seems to work here...
[13:12] <Kronen> Teratogen: dmesg is for kernel messages, so you can often get messages from boot time in there after start-up.  var/log/messages is for various services and applications to log to
[13:12] <GeorgeJ> SVNDR: How was I wrong?
[13:13] <SVNDR> as i said.. OUT!!
[13:13] <Teratogen> does the kernel "send" messages to dmesg after bootup?
[13:13] <Nuukia_> wtf
[13:13] <Teratogen> why not log kernel messages to /var/log/messages too?
[13:13] <Teratogen> wouldn't that be useful?
[13:14] <Sengukoi> Hi
[13:14] <Sengukoi> Known_problems, Hi.
[13:15] <marel> How do I install JDK ? I tried installing django's IDE and I got an error saying I don't have JDK..
[13:16] <slikts> sudo apt-get install openjdk-jre
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> marel  sudo apt-get install openjdk
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> slikts  was faster :p
[13:16] <shades> so I got disconnected last night
[13:16] <Kronen> Teratogen: i'm not too sure on this, but I think the stuff dmesg outputs is in memory, not on the file system
[13:17] <iceroot> marel: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[13:17] <slikts> MonkeyDust: I was also wrong
[13:17] <marel> MonkeyDust, I've got an error saying : unable to locate package openjdk..
[13:17] <iceroot> marel: everything else is just pulling the jre and for development you need the jdk
[13:17] <Teratogen> so when I type the command dmesg
[13:17] <Teratogen> it's showing me messages that are actually in memory?
[13:17] <slikts> marel: you openjdk-6-jre
[13:18] <antipragmatist> how hey!
[13:18] <antipragmatist> the android build consumed much of my system resounces !!
[13:18] <Kronen> Teratogen: man dmesg says it displays the "kernel ring buffer"
[13:18] <Teratogen> right
[13:19] <Kronen> Teratogen: looks like they also get sent to /proc/kmsg
[13:20] <shades> http://pastebin.com/fE6Bt8ii
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> antipragmatist  nice to know, but how is it ubuntu related?
[13:20] <iceroot> antipragmatist: please dont say "because i am building it on ubuntu"
[13:20] <iceroot> :)
[13:21] <quiescens> Teratogen: technically most of the stuff in dmesg will probably end up in /var/kern.log, although kern.log likely has more than what was in dmesg
[13:22] <Teratogen> heh, quiescens, interesting, I don't have a /var/kern.log on my Slackware install
[13:22] <quiescens> welll, this is an ubuntu channel so clearly i had just assumed
[13:23] <Teratogen> right, well the reason I am on here is I installed ubuntu on a notebook computer and was having a few problems getting wireless working
[13:24] <shades> i tried to compile apache from source, and did ./configure, make, make all instead of make install... now a lot of files are ending in .dpkg-new and when I try to start apache service --status-all shows it as apache2.dpkg-new and i have to service apache2.dpkg-new start i'm told .: 49: Can't open /etc/apache2/envvars ... how do I remove this borked install of apache
[13:25] <iceroot> shades: why?
[13:25] <iceroot> shades: sudo apt-get install apache2
[13:25] <akpk> Hello,anyone know how to enable PHP accelerator "php-apc"  ?? I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and XAMPP
[13:26] <shades> iceroot, the box is not online
[13:26] <shades> i don't have an 'always on' internet connection
[13:26] <iceroot> !offline | shades
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> akpk  rather use LAMP
[13:26] <shades> i was trying to download the packages and then dpkg -i but ther ewere too many dependancies
[13:26] <iceroot> akpk: why using xampp? and it should be sudo a2enmod php-apc
[13:26] <shades> that rewquires xwindow and a whole bunch of dependancies as well
[13:27] <iceroot> shades: and is working
[13:27] <loganirc> is there a way to change a UID for a user
[13:27] <shades> i'm hoping to figure out how to remove this borked install of apacahe 1st
[13:27] <iceroot> loganirc: yes
[13:27] <shades> iceroot, i tried downloading synaptic and then i'm told i need a WHOLE bunch of dependancies...
[13:27] <iceroot> shades: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[13:27] <shades> it's a pita to install
[13:27] <Ben64> shades: should really just use apt-get to install apache
[13:27] <iceroot> shades: apt-get can do the same
[13:27] <vega-> loganirc: usermod
[13:28] <loganirc> iceroot, I tried just manually editing /etc/passwd, then doing a chown -R /home/user but that messed up something with the encryped file system
[13:28] <shades> ben64 that doesn't work..
[13:28] <iceroot> loganirc: never ever in your whole live edit /etc/passwd directly
[13:28] <iceroot> life
[13:28] <Ben64> shades: it does work
[13:28] <nuweczka> kurwy jebanwe
[13:29] <Lasher_777> I'm having trouble making a USB installer
[13:29] <loganirc> iceroot. I'll try usermod  as vega suggested this time
[13:29] <RaTTuS|BIG> !pl | nuweczka
[13:29] <iceroot> !usb | Lasher_777
[13:29] <shades> Ben64: no it doesn't: http://pastebin.com/bPfpTEpW
[13:29] <Lasher_777> I have tried dd and UnetBottin several times
[13:29] <shades> lol @ kurwy jebanwe
[13:30] <Lasher_777> What I want to know is if my kernel (3.0.0-12) is making it impossible
[13:30] <Ben64> shades: well i meant before half-installing a compiled version
[13:30] <Lasher_777> thnx iceroot come frome there
[13:30] <shades> Ben64: well what do I do now that a whole bunch of packages are ending in .dpkg-new ?
[13:30] <Ben64> shades: did you ever do a 'make install'
[13:30] <iceroot> loganirc: you are talking about an ubuntu-iso?
[13:31] <iceroot> shades: dpkg-new is because of "divert"
[13:31] <shades> Ben64: i did a ./configure ; make; make all. I did a make all accidently instead of make install, i went back into the directory and did 'make install'
[13:31] <ghoti> So... Someone here did a "sudo chown -R www-data /" last night.  I still have a non-root shell open on the box, and it's still serving up web pages, but obviously, lots of stuff doesn't work now -- including sudo, su, sshd, etc.  Can anyone thing of a way to recover that doesn't involve rebooting?
[13:31] <shades> iceroot: how do i undivert?
[13:31] <iceroot> shades: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[13:31] <_jason> ghoti: reinstall
[13:31] <shades> iceroot: I did that and the pastebin i just pasted has the result
[13:31] <shades> it didn't work
[13:32] <DJango_Novice> hi thr
[13:32] <DJango_Novice> im new to ubuntu n need sum help regarding postgre instllation
[13:32] <ghoti> _jason: I'm trying to avoid that.  If I could get root access, I could fix ownership on most things...
[13:32] <iceroot> shades: what the...
[13:32] <shades> yeah
[13:33] <Ben64> shades: try apt-get remove --purge apache2.2-bin
[13:33] <qmr> multimonitor setup, left is external monitor, 1920x1080, right is laptop, 1600x900.  this results in some weird dead space on 2 sides of the laptop monitor... any way to fix this?  like my mouse can go to places that ... don't exist, if that makes sense
[13:33] <shades> Ben64: then it complains about apache2.2-common and libaprutil1-dbd-mysql
[13:33] <Ben64> its always much easier to let packages do the work instead of compiling
[13:33] <shades> that didn't do it
[13:33] <iceroot> !info httpd
[13:34] <_jason> ghoti: long version: you should reinstall as that will be the easiest and fastest way.  If you insist on not reinstalling, then you can install all the packages you have now to a live system and then use that as a reference for the permissions (see man page of setfacl, getfacl (specifically -R option) as this is probably the easiest way; you can also use chmod and chown I guess)
[13:34] <iceroot> shades: where does the package httpd came from?
[13:34] <Ben64> you need to remove everything apache2*
[13:34] <shades> iceroot: apache.org
[13:34] <iceroot> shades: please only use packages.ubuntu.com
[13:34] <shades> but downloading individual packages is a pain in the ass
[13:35] <shades> because of my high latency low bandwidth connection line
[13:35] <Ben64> apt-get does it for you!
[13:35] <iceroot> shades: and what you are doing atm not?
[13:35] <shades> not when the box isn't connected to the internet
[13:35] <xcoy> what???
[13:35] <iceroot> !offline | shades
[13:35] <xcoy> whatt???
[13:35] <shades> synaptix isn't installed
[13:35] <iceroot> shades: the same is working with apt-get or aptitude
[13:35] <shades> synaptic requires a whole bunch of dependancies for me to download
[13:35] <_jason> ghoti: does the machine have a root password?
[13:35] <Ben64> you can have synaptic on another machine
[13:35] <shades> which is a real big pita
[13:36] <shades> I don't have another machine that has synaptic
[13:36] <iceroot> shades: http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/
[13:36] <iceroot> shades: as ubottu told you
[13:36] <Ben64> or that
[13:36] <iceroot> shades: just click what you want, download it and use "dpkg -i *.deb"
[13:36] <Lasher_777> no one knows if the kernel thing is an issue for usb install?
[13:37] <iceroot> loganirc: the kernel has nothing to do with usb-install
[13:37] <iceroot> loganirc: wrong nick
[13:37] <iceroot> Lasher_777: ^
[13:37] <shades> it doesn't let you download a single file that contains all of these?
[13:37] <suffering> hihi long time sins i uset Linux :)
[13:37] <shades> in the mean time how do I 'fix' this 'diverge' .dpkg-new issue?
[13:38] <iceroot> shades: man dpkg-divert
[13:38] <suffering> 7/list
[13:40] <iceroot> shades: you can also remove the packages with dpkg --purge
[13:40] <iceroot> shades: should be easier then dpkg-divert
[13:40] <shades> iceroot let me look at this dpkg-divert
[13:42] <_jason> shades: as I told you yesterday, synaptic is not a requirement
[13:42] <shades> _jason: I missed that with all the flooding
[13:44] <xcoy> too
[13:44] <go8765> hello. can anybody help me with vuze on ubuntu. this-is log http://paste.ubuntu.com/792696/
[13:44] <shades> examples: to divert all copies of a a/usr/bin/example to /usr/bin/example fo, . . . dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/example.foo --rename /usr/in/example ... it can't be as simple as that?
[13:45] <shades> plus there are a whole bunch of directories I'm seeing these apache2 .dpkg-new files...
[13:45] <shades> notjust a single directory
[13:45] <samalex> hey guys -- any pointers on using my Ubuntu 10.04 laptop as an access point?  Where I'm at has wired access but no wireless, but I'd like to use my tablet which only supports wifi.
[13:45] <iceroot> shades: as i said, use dpkg --purge which is easier then divert
[13:45] <iceroot> shades: the prerm scripts will do the divert
[13:46] <shades> iceroot, I did the dpkg --purge and i pasted an output that said it did not work
[13:46] <iceroot> samalex: so you want to use the notebook wifi for access the internet AND being an AP?
[13:46] <iceroot> shades: you used apt-get not dpkg
[13:46] <DJango_Novice> wen i run apt-get command to isntall postgre... it says u got broken packages
[13:46] <DJango_Novice> guys ne idea??? im nwe to ubuntu
[13:46] <iceroot> shades: and the errors tells you to run "apt-get install -f" first to fix the issues
[13:47] <iceroot> !details | DJango_Novice
[13:47] <iceroot> DJango_Novice: post the complete message and errors please
[13:47] <dyd> guys what means "bash: ./dmg2iso.pl: /usr/local/bin/perl^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"
[13:47] <DJango_Novice> ok sorry
[13:47] <iceroot> !paste | DJango_Novice
[13:47] <usr13> !ics | samalex
[13:47] <samalex> iceroot, no...  my laptop is connected to the network via ethernet (cat5) but I want to use the wireless card as an AP to bridge the network to my wifi enabled tablet
[13:47] <iceroot> dyd: that the file is in dos-format instead of unix-format
[13:47] <llutz> dyd: dos2unix <yourfile>
[13:47] <llutz> !info dos2unix
[13:47] <shades> iceroot dpkg --purge apache2 reports that apache2 isn't installed and that it's going to ignore my request as a result of that
[13:48] <dyd> thanks
[13:48] <shades> iceroot but those errors are telling me to download a bunch of stuff I don't particularly need
[13:48] <DJango_Novice> I have ubuntu 11.10... I am trying to install postgres 9.1.... I ran these commands ...sudo apt-get install python-software-properties
[13:48] <usr13> samalex: You can do adhoc mode.
[13:48] <shades> like mysql libraries, i'm not going ot be using mysql libraries. I'm going to be using postgres...
[13:48] <DJango_Novice> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pitti/postgresql
[13:48] <DJango_Novice> sudo apt-get update
[13:48] <iceroot> !paste | DJango_Novice
[13:48] <iceroot> DJango_Novice: but that seems complety wrong
[13:48] <samalex> usr13: that's what I was thinking, but i didn't know if there was a package in the repo's or some other canned method to setup something like what I want to do.
[13:49] <iceroot> DJango_Novice: dont use the ppa
[13:49] <DJango_Novice> ok thn wht m i suppose to use
[13:49] <usr13> samalex: I don't think so
[13:49] <iceroot> DJango_Novice: just "sudo apt-get install postgresql" disable the ppa first
[13:49] <iceroot> !repos | DJango_Novice
[13:49] <DJango_Novice> linux is altogether a new OS for me
[13:49] <Kronen> can anyone help me get my sound working? (KDE, but #kubuntu are out of options, it seems)
[13:49] <dyd> i think i don't have the perl interpreter
[13:50] <usr13> Kronen: alsamixer   #See if anything is muted or turned down
[13:50] <Kronen> dyd - can you just install perl?
[13:50] <dyd> Kronen, it says i have already the newest version
[13:50] <DJango_Novice> ok let me try to read repositories first
[13:51] <usr13> !sound | Kronen
[13:51] <shades> so in otherwords I'm pretty stuck...
[13:51] <Kronen> usr13: doesn't look like it
[13:51] <shades> none of these --purge commands are purging it
[13:51] <iceroot> DJango_Novice: a good idea to see how sotfware-installations works on ubuntu
[13:51] <usr13> Kronen: Laptop or Desktop?
[13:51] <Kronen> usr13: laptop
[13:51] <iceroot> shades: dpkg --purge httpd
[13:51] <usr13> Kronen: Any switches or manual controls?
[13:51] <iceroot> shades: you did not install apache2 you installed httpd
[13:52] <iceroot> shades: the same should work with apt-get
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> shades  try deleting some directories and config files, then do apt-get autoremove
[13:52] <Kronen> usr13: nope
[13:52] <iceroot> shades: dont do what MonkeyDust was suggesting
[13:52] <usr13> Kronen: In alsamixer, do you see MM at the bottom of any of the channels?
[13:52] <usr13> Kronen: Are they all turned up?
[13:52] <iceroot> shades: you have to purge all packages you installed by hand
[13:53] <Myrth> hi, i have apf-firewall stopped, but at some point during the night it just starts by itself - where should I look to fully disable it? thanks. `chkconfig apf-firewall off` doesn't help... 11.10
[13:53] <usr13> Kronen: Is your sound card properly identified in the upper left corner?  (Compare with output of lspci)
[13:53] <shades> iceroot: when i extract httpd-2.2.21 and compile it it says it's apache, not httpd
[13:53] <Kronen> usr13: seen the Troubleshooting page - the "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" doesn't give any errors, just no sound output.  I do see MM at "S/PDIF"
[13:53] <iceroot> shades: we are talking about deb-packages
[13:53] <iceroot> shades: and the package is called httpd
[13:53] <usr13> Kronen: The m key will toggle muting on or off.
[13:54] <dyd> Kronen, llutz, iceroot, the problem was caused by the first line of the perl script, had to change from #!/usr/local/bin/perl to #!/usr/bin/perl
[13:54] <Kronen> dyd: try "which perl"
[13:54] <iceroot> dyd: and the ^M
[13:55] <noodlr> Hi
[13:55] <go8765> hello. can anybody help me with vuze on ubuntu. this-is log http://paste.ubuntu.com/792696/
[13:55] <tim_> Hallo ?
[13:55] <shades> ok, I think rm -fr all these .dpkg-new files is going to be quicker than trying to figure out htf this dpkg-divert stuff is supposed to work....
[13:55] <Kronen> usr13: YOU ARE MY HERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:55] <iceroot> shades: that will break the installation really bad
[13:55] <schnuffle> !anyone | tim_
[13:55] <iceroot> shades: i told you you have to remove the packages you installed
[13:55] <shades> iceroot: how do I see what packages I've already installed?
[13:56] <iceroot> shades: as it seems you installed a package called "httpd" so why removing the package "apache2" then?
[13:56] <usr13> Kronen: Very well  :)
[13:56] <iceroot> shades: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[13:56] <shades> why am I greping for ^ii
[13:56] <iceroot> shades: use this dpkg -l | grep apache2
[13:56] <iceroot> shades: use this dpkg -l | grep httpd
[13:56] <noodlr> I'm trying to find a way to backup my data from my N95, on to my pc. the screen on my N95 is busted so I'm somewhat groping in the dark... I downloaded xgnokii but that doesn't seem to be doing anything, is there a tool that I might try for better results?
[13:56] <iceroot> shades: because ^ii means installed
[13:57] <iceroot> shades: dpkg -l  to see what i mean
[13:57] <franzks> Hello, I am downloading ubuntu (64-bit) and I noticed that the filename is "ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso". Is there another version for laptops?
[13:57] <iceroot> shades: ^rc means removed but the conffiles are still there, so also have a look at "dpkg -l | grep ^rc"
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> noodlr  what's N95?
[13:57] <iceroot> franzks: no
[13:57] <noodlr> MonkeyDust, my old mobile phone
[13:57] <usr13> shades: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info   #Will show latest entries at bottom
[13:57] <noodlr> it's a Nokia unit
[13:57] <samalex> i've created an ad hoc network on my laptop through NetworkManager, but it's not showing-up on my device...  i hoped I could do that then use iptables to bridge the tw
[13:57] <iceroot> franzks: desktop means in this case "desktop environment" so it means there is a gui
[13:58] <franzks> iceroot, oh ok thanks for clearing that up
[13:58] <iceroot> franzks: you are welcome
[13:59] <samalex> well nevermind I guess, I'm trying to use a Kindle Fire but it appears Android doesn't do ad hoc networks without being rooted and tweaked.  oh well.
[13:59] <shades> so I see three packages listed for apache2, apache2-utils apache2.2-bin and apache2.2-common, after I sintalledthe 3rd one i gave up on trying to download the dependancies and just got the source file and compiled it from source... all I need to do right now is dpgk deinstall apache2-utils, apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common ?
[14:00] <ripthejacker> ubuntu does not shutdown completely please help
[14:00] <iceroot> shades: correct
[14:00] <iceroot> shades: i would suggest to use apt-get instead
[14:00] <usr13> samalex: What command did you use?
[14:00] <shades> iceroot: why apt-get doesn't htat reuire internet access?
[14:00] <triunity> Hey i have a program that when it starts, it starts in the center of the screen.  But when I run the program via startup applications, it starts in the very top left corner of the screen, anyone know why?
[14:00] <usr13> samalex: Oh, ok
[14:00] <iceroot> shades: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common
[14:00] <samalex> usr13, no command, I setup the ad hoc network thorugh NetworkManager but the SSID I used isn't showing-up on the Kindle Fire as an available ap
[14:01] <iceroot> shades: no why? you want to remove something not to install something
[14:01] <ripthejacker> ubuntu shutdown hangs in between please help
[14:01] <usr13> samalex: In that case, you'd need a WiFi NIC that does AP mode, (most don't).
[14:01] <idefix> !GUI
[14:02] <samalex> usr13: yeah chances are mine doesn't either...
[14:02] <riccardo> ciao
[14:02] <shades> iceroot: apt-get complains about stuff while dpkg -r doesn't
[14:02] <riccardo> !list
[14:02] <raven> 11.10 + xfce: eth0 physically disabled and wlan0 does not connect - how to reset/repair all networking settings?
[14:02] <iceroot> shades: details... pastebin
[14:03] <triunity> ubottu, I'm not sure who that message was for, but I'm using gnome/gtk for my program, and my environment is also gnome/gtk
[14:04] <riccardo> xdcc send #4
[14:04] <raven> 11.10 + xfce: eth0 physically disabled and wlan0 does not connect - how to reset/repair all networking settings?
[14:05] <shades> iceroot: working on it's it's real real slow
[14:05] <shades> http://pastebin.com/LSVe8wCh
[14:05] <usr13> raven: sudo dhclient
[14:05] <raven> usr13, how to enable eth0 device?
[14:06] <usr13> raven: sudo ifup eth0
[14:06] <shades> I think I'm going to break down and try to install itover the network, if I can get the box online, then apt-get apache2 will 'fix' all of this?
[14:06] <raven> usr13 that does not activate it physically but logical
[14:07] <usr13> raven: What do you mean physically?    What type of device are you using?  A laptop or desktop?
[14:07] <usr13> raven: ifconfig eth0  #What does that say?
[14:08] <raven> usr13 eeepc - physically means that no activity light appears on the router
[14:08] <shades> iceroot: what do you think?
[14:08] <raven> usr13 that sais eth0 is there
[14:09] <schnuffle> shades: Yes as soon as you have connection to the repositories you should be able to solve your problem
[14:09] <usr13> raven: Check the wire and/or connections.  Or, change to corssover cable, or to straight cable if already using crossover.
[14:09] <ivanney> hello, can someone help me please by giving me a tuto to set md5 encryption to the password of my syslinux.cfg or by explaining?
[14:09] <shades> schnuffle: apt-get apache2 will 'fix' all of the files that are related to apache that end in .dpkg-new ??
[14:09] <usr13> raven: It is a router?  Are you plugging into LAN port or WAN port?
[14:10] <raven> usr13, physically its all correct because on booting it appears active but at splash/login-screen  it turns off
[14:10] <schnuffle> shades: no but you can reinstall them and then use the original ones
[14:10] <shades> schnuffle: what do you mean no?
[14:10] <samalex> nope, just used iw to check my card and no AP or Master mode.  oh well.
[14:10] <KingSteve032> Sup
[14:10] <shades> apache2.dpkg-new will still exiswt on the system but the correct apache2 version without .dpkg-new will exist and run independant of apache2.dpgk-new ??
[14:10] <idefix> ![utmp]
[14:11] <idefix> !utmp
[14:11] <dyd> what tool can i use to convert from img to iso?
[14:11] <usr13> raven: Sure it's not just a bad cable? Or dead port on the router?
[14:11] <raven> usr13, yes i am sure
[14:11] <schnuffle> shades: that means if you already have installed some local apache packages it won't delete them automatically
[14:11] <shades> schnuffle: what will delete the old stuff that I don't care about/care for?
[14:12] <usr13> raven: Set eth0 to static IP and try to ping it.  i.e.  ifconfig eth0 192.168.5.5 ; ping -c 3 192.168.5.5
[14:12] <schnuffle> shades: uninstall it, by checking the name of the package and then uninstall it
[14:12] <raven> usr13 network-manager tells me "device not managed" - why that?
[14:12] <usr13> raven: I don't know
[14:12] <ivanney> hello, can someone help me please by giving me a tuto or explaining how to set md5 encryption to the password of my syslinux.cfg?
[14:12] <shades> schnuffle: it wasn't installed via a .deb it was  a failed installation from compiling the source
[14:13] <usr13> raven: Can you ping it?
[14:13] <schnuffle> shades: did you create a deb package?
[14:13] <shades> schnuffle: no
[14:13] <usr13> raven: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.5.5 ; ping -c 3 192.168.5.5
[14:14] <compdoc> I have a basic install of 11.10, 64 bit. When I run Ubuntu Software Center and try to install a program, it just sits there and does nothing. I think it does this because I'm not running the program as su. The dumb thing never asks for a password.
[14:14] <raven> usr13, i just recognized that eth0 is like blocking all networking activities on the machine - deactivating it lets wlan0 connect, does dhcp on it, dns is found .....
[14:14] <raven> usr13 bad driver for eth0??
[14:15] <usr13> raven: What is it?  (What does lspci say about it?)
[14:15] <schnuffle> shades: what prefox did you use? /usr, check if there's a uninstall target for make. If so, go to the source and do a make uninstall. Otherwise just reinstall apache from the repos it should overwrite
[14:16] <raven> usr13, i will test a bit to say anything more about that  i will be back
[14:16] <shades> schnuffle: there is no 'make uninstall'
[14:16] <usr13> raven: I doubt that eth0 is blocking all networking activities, (I've never see a case where that would happen).... Unless maybe it is a defective peice of hardware.
[14:16] <schnuffle> raven: is your wired managed by networkmanager or does it have a manual config in /etc/network/interfaces?
[14:16] <shades> i'm concerned with getting rid of the .dpkg-new files
[14:18] <schnuffle> shades: these get created when there's a file already existing. For which package do you get dpkg-new files?
[14:19] <w3bg33k> I'm trying to add additional storage to my VM (Turnkey VM, v10.01), and I'm currently getting this error when I mkfs - http://pastebin.com/XCJyTWm1 - any suggestions?
[14:19] <shades> schnuffle: let me get pastebin up
[14:20] <shades> schnuffle: all of these: http://pastebin.com/fr9209Sb
[14:20] <shades> I did a locate .dpkg-new
[14:20] <shades> and that was the output
[14:21] <usr13> w3bg33k: What size is /dev/sdb3 ?    # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb3
[14:22] <schnuffle> shades: okay so only apache is the problem. Before installing apache again from the repose move /etc/apache out of the way ( e.g /etc/apache_)
[14:22] <sublasup> hi, how can i stop an application that froze and takes my whole desktop? i changed to an other tty and tried killall and sudo killall with the name and the PID of the process but it still blocks my screen
[14:22] <shades> schnuffle: rm -fr /etc/apache will do it too right?
[14:23] <usr13> w3bg33k: It says "filesystem with 0 blocks"
[14:23] <schnuffle> shades: would do it, but I would keep it till your're really sure you don't need them anymore. Backup is your best friend
[14:23] <RaTTuS|BIG> w3bg33k - sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[14:23] <Kartagis> sometime I take screenshots and save. however if the destination directory has a file of the same name and I say to replace, I get http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/error.png . how come?
[14:23] <sublasup> ah, got it... have touse kill and PID
[14:24] <sublasup> exit
[14:24] <schnuffle> shades: and make sure there's no apache2 stuff already installed
[14:26] <schnuffle> shades: and you could delete al the apache2 files from your compile. That should be located in /usr/lib/apache2, /usr/share/apache2, /usr/share/doc/apache2
[14:27] <SVNDR> Where does a terminal window go when i minimize it?? i cant reopen it but everytime i click the terminal icon it just open a new one
[14:27] <makara> is there some hack I can use to get all windows back on my 1st display? When I unplug laptop Ubuntu still opens them on 2nd display and I can't get to them
[14:27] <schnuffle> SVNDR: did you switch your DEsktop?
[14:28] <SVNDR> schnuffle: nah, all on the one desktop
[14:28] <usr13> makara: Alt-Tab
[14:28] <shades> no apache dir in /usr/lib
[14:28] <makara> usr13: that's not it
[14:28] <shades> or /usr/share
[14:28] <usr13> SVNDR: Alt-Tab
[14:28] <usr13> makara: Sorry, wrong nic
[14:29] <schnuffle> SVNDR: when you use the scrolling from the mouse pad when the mouse is on a free desktop space you switch desktops and all the windows disappear
[14:29] <usr13> makara: Are you talking about a second display or second virtual desktop?
[14:29] <SVNDR> schnuffle: i tried alt+tab, but that didnt work either.. and im positive i didnt switch desktops
[14:29] <schnuffle> shades: and under /usr/lib/httpd
[14:30] <makara> display. another screen. It flipping annoying. I can't believe they would ship unity like this
[14:30] <makara> and not have patched an update by now
[14:30] <shades> schnuffle: no such directory
[14:30] <usr13> SVNDR: Are you sure you are minimizing it?
[14:31] <schnuffle> shades: so where did you install your self compiled apache? /usr/local maybe?
[14:31] <shades> /home/httpd-2.2.21 or something like that
[14:31] <SVNDR> usr13: pretty positive, i just texted it then, i minimized and it acted like it quit
[14:32] <usr13> SVNDR: Maybe the minimize and close buttons have somehow been transposed?
[14:32] <karthick87> Is there a good documentation for setting up a PXE server?
[14:32] <SVNDR> usr13: is that possible? lol how can it be fixed?
[14:33] <SVNDR> usr13: it doesnt do that for any other window
[14:33] <usr13> SVNDR: who   #How many entries do you get?
[14:33] <schnuffle> shades: something like that is not really precise :)
[14:34] <SVNDR> usr13: 4
[14:34] <makara> SVNDR: have you tried Docky. Its marginally better than the Unity panel.
[14:34] <SVNDR> makara: from the software centre?
[14:35] <makara> but it also aggregates apps icons with open windows, and so does Gnome.
[14:35] <makara> yes
[14:35] <usr13> SVNDR: Open minimize that one, open another and see.
[14:35] <SVNDR> makara: i may try that later
[14:35] <SVNDR> usr13: ok
[14:35] <usr13> SVNDR: who  #Do you see 5 now?
[14:35] <makara> there's another one made in Cairo, but its a bit too much action on the screen for me
[14:36] <vink46> ciao
[14:36] <SVNDR> usr13: yep 5 now
[14:36] <vink46> !list
[14:36] <usr13> SVNDR: ps aux |grep terminal
[14:36] <KingSteve032> So ubuntu is being a jerk.
[14:37] <SVNDR> usr13: alright done, what am i looking for?
[14:37] <usr13> SVNDR: How many...
[14:37] <SVNDR> usr13: 2
[14:38] <MonkeyDust> how many italians are there?
[14:39] <usr13> SVNDR: Ctrl-Shift-n    #Should open another terminal, right?
[14:39] <usr13> SVNDR: who
[14:40] <w3bg33k> usr13 - there's no response when i type that command in.
[14:40] <usr13> SVNDR: mimimize one and do   who   again.  Compare.
[14:40] <usr13> w3bg33k:  sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb3
[14:40] <usr13> ?
[14:40] <w3bg33k> RaTTuS|BIG - http://pastebin.com/EtaDb3TY
[14:40] <makara> SVNDR: you can also install ccsm and get a lot more control over windows by setting keyboard shortcuts
[14:41] <shades> I'm going to grab something to eat while this transfers over...
[14:41] <w3bg33k> usr13 - seriously, there's nothing.
[14:41] <widewake> . i just installed this, not sure how to start program. http://stereopsis.com/flux/linux.html
[14:41] <w3bg33k> usr13 - here's a pastebin of fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/EtaDb3TY
[14:42] <SVNDR> usr13: yea they just keep adding on, but i cant find the terminal
[14:42] <usr13> w3bg33k: Pretty strange...  It appears to have  52428096 Blocks  and yet mkfs  said 0 Blocks
[14:42] <makara> w3bg33k: system settings > keyboard > shortcuts > terminal
[14:42] <usr13> w3bg33k: It says "filesystem with 0 blocks"  http://pastebin.com/XCJyTWm1
[14:43] <schnuffle> widewake: try fluxgui
[14:43] <w3bg33k> usr13 - if I fdisk -l sdb3 it gives nothing.  if I fdisk -l sdb, if shows the same info as fdisk -l without the /dev/sda1 - 3
[14:43] <ardit> hey guys
[14:43] <w3bg33k> makara - I'm SSH'd into the box
[14:43] <widewake> schnuffle,  i was trying start fluxg.. thanks
[14:43] <schnuffle> w3bg33k: fdisk -l /dev/sdx is the correct command
[14:44] <usr13> w3bg33k: That is because you are not prefexing it with   sudo
[14:44] <makara> oooh
[14:44] <llutz> w3bg33k: you cannot create a fs on an extended partition, create a logical drive first or turn the extended into primary
[14:44] <w3bg33k> llutz - how would I turn it into a primary?
[14:44] <Guest9287> i have installed ubuntu 11.10 and deleted windows 7 i thought i was saving the partitation D: but it got deleted is any way i can recover my files from partition D: ?
[14:44] <usr13> schnuffle: w3bg33k   sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdx
[14:45] <llutz> w3bg33k: sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb       delete 3, create 1 new as primary
[14:45] <loganirc> there is some tool that can scan a drive and try to determine what the partitions are
[14:45] <usr13> w3bg33k: aaahhhh this is a virtual machine's  file system?
[14:45] <loganirc> might be able to rebuild the partition table
[14:46] <Guest9287> can someone help me please ?! :)
[14:46] <w3bg33k> usr13 - yes
[14:46] <w3bg33k> usr13 - the disk is extra space we're adding
[14:46] <llutz> usr13: sdb3 == extended,  he cannot create a fs on an extended partition, he has to create a logical drive first or turn the extended into a primary
[14:46] <usr13> w3bg33k: Well, I don't know about that.  I don't really know now a virtual machine's partitions are configured...
[14:47] <Guest9287> i have installed ubuntu 11.10 and deleted windows 7 i thought i was saving the partitation D: but it got deleted is any way i can recover my files from partition D: ?
[14:47] <w3bg33k> llutz - if this is going to be used just for storage (web files, not OS), should I just make it a logical drive?
[14:47] <llutz> w3bg33k: up to you, makes no difference
[14:47] <loganirc> I assume you could use recovery tools on a virtual machine partion also, might have to install a linux virtual machine or something then mount the parition and use recovery tools on it, also if you had a snapshot that might help
[14:48] <usr13> llutz: Well, where I am confused is "sdb3" is the designation of a primary partition.  sdb1 - sdb3 would be primary partition designations.  sdb5 and up would be logical ones
[14:48] <Guest9287> i have installed ubuntu 11.10 and deleted windows 7 i thought i was saving the partitation D: but it got deleted is any way i can recover my files from partition D: ?
[14:48] <usr13> llutz: Actually, it's 1-4  are primary
[14:48] <llutz> usr13: 13 see his fdisk paste, sdb3 is an extended partition (a special kind of primary, to hold logical drives)
[14:48] <Oer> Guest9287, use your windows cd to repair ?
[14:49] <Guest9287> i have deleted windows 7 and installed
[14:49] <usr13> ... But I realize that a virtual machine's drive system is different.  Right?
[14:49] <Guest9287> ubuntu 11.10
[14:49] <widewake> schnuffle,  now that ive ran program, i cant bring up its options or kill it, any ideaR?
[14:49] <llutz> usr13: that has nothing to do with virtualmachines or anything
[14:49] <webroasters> hi guys. I'm using rsnapshot. Is it possible to get help here in this irc channel, or is there another channel to go to?
[14:49] <Guest9287> what do you mean use ur windows cd ?
[14:49] <Oer> Guest9287, sorry, after installing something i can't help you there
[14:50] <loganirc> guest9287 http://salingfamily.net/trav/linux/lost_partition.html
[14:50] <loganirc> gpart might help
[14:50] <llutz> usr13: unlike a "normal" primary partition, an extended partition has to have at least 1 logical drive (sdb5 here) if you want to put a filesystem on it
[14:50] <loganirc> Guest9287, best to back up the filesystem before trying anything though
[14:51] <usr13> llutz: Yes, I see that now...  System Extended  Sorry for the confusion.  YOu are correct. It is an Extended partition, not a primary one. (I missed that.)
[14:51] <Guest9287> what is this ?!
[14:51] <Guest9287> what can i do with it ?
[14:51] <widewake> wow 100% CPU on flux..  check out this program fellow penguins you might take interest. http://stereopsis.com/flux/   cyas
[14:51] <matt23> how can i make my keyboard icon in my menu tray smaller?
[14:51] <KrisDouglas> Hello, anyone got any thoughts on why web pages would be resolving incredibly slowly on an Ubuntu machine, but on a windows VM on the same machine pages load fine?
[14:52] <schnuffle> KrisDouglas: Routing or DNS problems
[14:52] <Guest9287> how can i use that ?!
[14:52] <usr13> KrisDouglas: Check to see what nameserver  you are using.  /etc/resolv.conf
[14:53] <loganirc> Guest9287, what do you mean
[14:53] <linelevel> Hi guys. Running Ubuntu 10.10, which has been working for me well for a while. But I just rebooted my machine this morning, and when I logged in I noticed that my shortcut icons in the top panel were missing, replaced by the default (a Firefox icon, and that's it). Then when I tried to get online, it asked me for my keyring password... and it is telling me my keyring password isn't correct. PLEASE HELP!
[14:53] <Guest9287> i mean how to use it i don t know how to use that :(
[14:54] <w3bg33k> llutz - how would i take what I have now & turn it into a logical drive then?
[14:54] <KrisDouglas> schnuffle, usr13 my DNS has been changed to google, opendns, my local DNS, nothing. I have even tried matching the configuration with the windows guest and it's still ridiculous.
[14:54] <andy_wfc> any know a really fancy way to enable numlock from the command line? i tried the gui option pictured (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NumLock) and it doesn't seem to work despite logout/login or reboot. the problem machine doesn't have an internet connection so i can't apt-get install numlockx
[14:55] <lamp_> hi, trying to install ubuntu on a PowerMac g4 - the installation can't find the disk drivers and I need to select from the list. I have a Seagate Barracuda ATA III, can someone please tell me which driver to select?
[14:55] <llutz> w3bg33k: sudo fdisk /dev/sdb     create a new (logical) drive, sdb5 covering the full space of sdb3
[14:55] <KrisDouglas> schnuffle, usr13, http://pastebin.com/ruzyYx2j
[14:55] <usr13> KrisDouglas: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf
[14:55] <KrisDouglas> usr13, already have :)
[14:55] <schnuffle> KrisDouglas: checked the apache logs? How does it respond when you call the page direclty from the ubuntu machine?
[14:56] <usr13> KrisDouglas: Try changing 208.67.222.222 to 4.2.2.2
[14:56] <KrisDouglas> schnuffle, this isn't a server, it's a desktop. I'm trying to access pages such as BBC, etc...
[14:56] <makara> Guest9287: www.recovermyfiles.com This program is the shit. It'll scan the whole disk and recognize filetypes by the byte signatures if need be
[14:56] <schnuffle> KrisDouglas: your host runs ubuntu and you have a extra Windows VM?
[14:56] <KrisDouglas> schnuffle, yes, our live support system runs on Windows
[14:56] <linelevel> Can anyone think of a reason why my user profile in Ubuntu would have become corrupt, or how to recover it?
[14:56] <linelevel> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[14:56] <h00k> makara: please keep the language appropriate in here
[14:56] <schnuffle> KrisDouglas: Aaah, disable IPv6
[14:56] <loganirc> "If you just destroyed your own partition table, but have not rebooted Linux : Don't reboot! You can still retrieve the partition information stored in the Kernel:"  http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/docs/howto/other-formats/html_single/Partition-Rescue.html
[14:57] <usr13> KrisDouglas: nmap -p 52 208.67.222.222
[14:57] <KrisDouglas> schnuffle, disabled already
[14:57] <makara> ...its the bees knees
[14:57] <h00k> linelevel: what about your user profile is corrupt?
[14:57] <Guest9287> i use ubuntu bro
[14:57] <llutz> usr13: -p 53 :)
[14:57] <linelevel> h00k [repost] Hi guys. Running Ubuntu 10.10, which has been working for me well for a while. But I just rebooted my machine this morning, and when I logged in I noticed that my shortcut icons in the top panel were missing, replaced by the default (a Firefox icon, and that's it).
[14:57] <linelevel> h00k:  Then when I tried to get online, it asked me for my keyring password... and it is telling me my keyring password isn't correct. PLEASE HELP!
[14:58] <makara> Guest9287: Not with that drive you shouldn't if you want your files back
[14:58] <loganirc> just read the link it talks about using gpart to recover partion table. it is a linux app
[14:58] <KrisDouglas> usr13, http://pastebin.com/uQX5Fwdx
[14:58] <usr13> llutz: Yes, 52  was typo  should have been 53  KrisDouglas Sorry, for typo
[14:58] <schnuffle> linelevel: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2010/01/16/reset-gnome-keyring-password-on-ubuntu/
[14:58] <Guest9287> can someone tell me another way ?
[14:59] <pangolin> Guest9287: another way to what?
[14:59] <usr13> KrisDouglas: route -n  |pastebinit
[14:59] <omgirc> where is the 'screensaver' feature now ?
[14:59] <makara> first say what wrong with the way we give you
[14:59] <KrisDouglas> usr13, http://pastebin.com/Gh43enyN
[14:59] <Guest9287> to recover my files :(
[14:59] <KrisDouglas> usr13, http://pastebin.com/LQJ6xeAi
[15:00] <pangolin> !recover | Guest9287
[15:00] <linelevel> schnuffle: Thanks! But that doesn't explain why other things about my user profile are corrupt.. Is there any way to do a "system restore" so I can get back to how my system was yesterday? It replaced my top panel shortcuts with the default (just the Firefox icon).
[15:00] <anqxyr> Hi everyone, I have I question. I've been using Kubuntu for 8 month now, and recently tried Debian. It have this neat installation option, where it installs only core utils, without any software or desktop environment. After messing with it for awhile I realized that I don't really like Debian. So now I am looking for a way to do a similar only-core-stuff install of Ubuntu. Can anybody give me an advice on how to do it?
[15:00] <omgirc> !screensaver
[15:00] <KrisDouglas> usr13, I didn't know about pastebinit, that's awesome.
[15:01] <linelevel> schnuffle: Also, that doesn't let me keep any of my keyring passwords :/
[15:01] <schnuffle> linelevel: I don't know about. But there has to be a reason. Did you do any updates?
[15:01] <linelevel> schnuffle: Nope.
[15:01] <usr13> KrisDouglas: host av.com    #How long does it take to resolve ?
[15:01] <lamp_> trying to install ubuntu on a PowerMac g4 - the installation can't find the disk drivers and I need to select from the list. I have a Seagate Barracuda ATA III, can someone please tell me which driver to select?
[15:01] <Guest9287> Thank you i will try :d
[15:01] <Guest9287> thnx all :D
[15:02] <KrisDouglas> anqxyr, I think if you use the text-mode alternative install disk you can choose what "bits" you want to include, haven't used it for a long time though
[15:02] <omgirc> i guess my question was too hard. sorry
[15:02] <usr13> KrisDouglas: ping -c3 208.67.222.222    #What do ping times look like?
[15:02] <KrisDouglas> omgirc, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[15:02] <omgirc> here's an easy one, what channel on freenode sucks the best? THIS ONE
[15:02] <anqxyr> thanks, KrisDouglas, I will try it.
[15:02] <almoxarife> anqxyr: ubuntu=debian, kubuntu=debian
[15:02] <KrisDouglas> usr13, ping times are ok 16-22ms on that IP
[15:03] <anqxyr> almoxarife: what do you mean by that?
[15:03] <linelevel> schnuffle: This just happened the last time I rebooted.
[15:03] <usr13> KrisDouglas: Does   host av.com   return response pretty quickly?
[15:04] <KrisDouglas> usr13, even traceroute is the same as it is from the [correctly functioning] windows box
[15:04] <KrisDouglas> returns in less than a second, usr13
[15:04] <usr13> KrisDouglas: What browser are you using?
[15:04] <KrisDouglas> Chrome, firefox, chromium
[15:05] <usr13> KrisDouglas: I'm thinking some plugin may be the culprit ...?
[15:05] <almoxarife> anqxyr: I mean they both are debian systems, but if you want ubuntu, install 'ubuntu-desktop' when its all done, and it will take a while, once you reboot, you will have the option of ubuntu or kubuntu, you can always strip either afterwards
[15:05] <KrisDouglas> I deleted the profiles for all 3 of them
[15:05] <KrisDouglas> and I do not have flash player installed
[15:05] <malletjo> Hello folks, i have a question about apt-get. (aptitude) when i output i have some i , p , A , v at the beginning. I know i is for "installed" but what about the others ?
[15:05] <usr13> KrisDouglas: That wouldn't dissable plugins
[15:05] <SVNDR> !flash
[15:06] <KrisDouglas> Let me run a safe mode firefox session, one mo :)
[15:06] <UberNinDude> Is it possible to run Ubuntu on iOS?
[15:06] <UberNinDude> I mean without too many problems?
[15:06] <usr13> Do you have foxfilter  installed?
[15:06] <Matan_> hey folks
[15:07] <usr13> KrisDouglas: Do you have foxfilter  installed?
[15:07] <Matan_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows on my new laptop
[15:07] <Matan_> but I'm having problem with the paratitioning
[15:07] <usr13> KrisDouglas: Try lynx
[15:08] <KrisDouglas> usr13, lynx runs like a dog, same as other browsers
[15:08] <dweez> I'm running 11.10 64bit using Gnome3.  When I leave work, I lock the screen.  Occassionally when I come back in, it will be waiting at the login screen not the unlock screen.  I'm not sure if the system is rebooting or if Gnome is restarting.  Where can I look to figure out which is happening?
[15:08] <mneptok> "paratitioning" = jumping out of a plane at 10K feet while you slice up your disk space
[15:09] <Matan_> heh
[15:09] <usr13> KrisDouglas: lynx -dump av.com
[15:09] <Matan_> sounds like fun
[15:09] <mneptok> Matan_: what is the issue you are having?
[15:09] <SVNDR> Are thre any docks like windows vista docks available from the software center? when i say like windows vista, i dont mean exactly, just one that is static to the bottum, resembles in a way, and doesnt overtake windows..
[15:09] <KrisDouglas> usr13, loading
[15:09] <DJango_Novice> hi thr
[15:09] <Decode141> Erm, hey.
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  AWN, docky
[15:10] <linelevel> Hi, can anyone tell me where in the file system Ubuntu stores the list of shortcuts that I add to the top panel (next to Apps, Places, System on Ubuntu 10.10)?
[15:10] <Matan_> mneptok: I'm at the Installation Type page, and it seems like any partition I choose, it just says "no root file system is defined"
[15:10] <DJango_Novice> im stuck....im trying to install postgres on ubuntu 11.10 and it says u got broken pakages
[15:10] <mneptok> Matan_: did you create empty disk space for the Linux partitions?
[15:10] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: already had a look at Docky, not really what im looking for
[15:10] <DJango_Novice> n -f is not workin  as well
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  maybe you want to try linux Mint, it has a task bar on the bottom
[15:10] <hugenumbers> Where would be the best place to find answers to Unix/Linux scripting questions?
[15:10] <linelevel> schnuffle: Figured something out... my /home partition got to "0 bytes free", that's when this problem started...
[15:11] <linelevel> Does that give any hints as to why I lost parts of my user profile?
[15:11] <Matan_> mneptok: Yes, I have a partition for Windows and an empty partition for Ubuntu
[15:11] <usr13> KrisDouglas: tcpdump  #Run it in a terminal as you try and surf to pages and see what is happening.
[15:11] <DJango_Novice> ne idea
[15:11] <KrisDouglas> usr13, http://pastebin.com/dj6464A4
[15:11] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: is that going to involve re-installing a whole OS?
[15:11] <Decode141> Yo.
[15:11] <Matan_> mneptok: however, for the Ubuntu partition is says on the type column, nothing, and the "used" column is unknown
[15:12] <mneptok> Matan_: do back to Win. delete that empty partition. just leave it as blank, unallocated space. let the Ubuntu installer create and format partitions in that space/
[15:12] <KrisDouglas> sudo tcpdump* I assume usr13
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  yes, ubuntu seems not what you are looking for
[15:12] <mneptok> Matan_: s/do back/go back/
[15:12] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: it is, but theres no harm in personal prefrence is there?
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  however, there is a patch to move the panel to the bottom, moment
[15:12] <Matan_> mneptok: Is it allocated space right now? It seems like unallocted..
[15:13] <mneptok> MonkeyDust: suggesting Mint is not helpful in this channel.
[15:13] <Matan_> there's no file system and nothing is used
[15:13] <mneptok> MonkeyDust: please refrain.
[15:13] <mneptok> Matan_: you'll have to tell the Ubuntu installer where to find the partitions to install to, and format them accordingly.
[15:13] <makara> SVNDR: there's a version of Gnome. I think it's called Classic.
[15:13] <KrisDouglas> usr13, along with all of the irc traffic and some other badly switched data, I can't see anything unusual. I will try and dump, 1 sec
[15:14] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: oh do tell.. do you mean the standard dock? but will it still overtake windows when it pops up?
[15:14] <makara> retro... something like that
[15:14] <cypr1nus> hello, is there any way to install packages under oneric from natty using apt-get ?
[15:14] <Matan_> mneptok: allright, I'm switching back to Windows, let's see how it works
[15:14] <makara> can't they just make a dock that keep windows separate. Why cluster everything together without an option?
[15:14] <Decode141> Hpm..
[15:15] <Decode141> I need some help.
[15:15] <SVNDR> makara: true enough lol
[15:15] <makara> how any times do I open an app vs how many times I need to switch to one - should be the guiding principle
[15:15] <Decode141> I'm trying to get Skype installed and well Ubuntu's telling me I need to uninstall some library to get it working.
[15:15] <SVNDR> makara: correct, i switch more then i open
[15:15] <Decode141> Any idea what's wrong? :P
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  is this what you're looking for? http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html
[15:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> !root |root
[15:16] <dweez> Where do I look to see if my system crashed/reboot or if it was just the gdm that crashed?
[15:16] <KrisDouglas> usr13, it's difficult to get a worthwhile dump
[15:16] <RaTTuS|BIG> umm
[15:16] <KrisDouglas> usr13, is there anything I should look out for?
[15:16] <makara> there is no root password
[15:17] <makara> i like it
[15:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> Guest48521  it's best not to join IRC as root
[15:17] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: yea, nice, that looks about right.. thanks
[15:18] <AFD> I just installed Ubuntu from a USB and don't seem to have the right password to log in (how I've got it wrong within 20mins of setting it I don't know!) I can boot to a LiveOS from the same USB - is there a way to set the password again?
[15:18] <makara> Root: The nail that stands out gets hammered down - Chinese proverb
[15:18] <Matan_> mneptok: do you mean to completely delete the extra partition?
[15:20] <h00k> RaTTuS|BIG: it's rootirc, FYI
[15:20] <w3bg33k> llutz - i'm not sure how do to that under fdisk. would i delete the partition first?  or just create a new partition?  i don't see where to create a logical drive
[15:20] <usr13> gotta go...
[15:20] <h00k> ubottu: tell RaTTuS|BIG about rootirc
[15:20] <vibhav> hi
[15:20] <glaukommatos> Does anyone happen to know if 802.11n is generally supported when setting up an ad-hoc network? I've been fighting with this for a bit now, and I'm having a hard time finding useful information. :)
[15:20] <llutz> w3bg33k: use whatever disktool you feel comfortable with. delete sdb3 and create a new primary sdb1
[15:21] <mneptok> Matan_: yes. let Ubuntu create the partitions it will use.
[15:21] <Decode141> Erm..
[15:21] <Decode141> X_x
[15:21] <Decode141> Skype sucks.
[15:21] <FloodBot1> Decode141: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:21] <loganirc> how come when I do full screen in youtube it just keeps the small video size and turns the rest of the screen black. why doesn't it maximize the video size like on other platforms
[15:21] <tj2> I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 and my computer seems to be ignoring my mouse clicks. The mouse moves around fine, but nothing is selected when I click.
[15:21] <mneptok> Matan_: empty, unpartitioned, unformatted space is going to be the least confusing to the installer.
[15:21] <rypervenche> Decode141: Mumble :)
[15:22] <RaTTuS|BIG> thanks h00k ;-p
[15:22] <rypervenche> Decode141: install it from the website, then after you do, type "sudo apt-get instal -f" to get the dependencies
[15:22] <Decode141> Sorry, been trying to install skype since like 30 minutes. iFail ;_;
[15:22] <rypervenche> Decode141: install with two l's :/
[15:22] <Decode141> Yep, I know that hehe.
[15:23] <loganirc> does anyone else have issues with youtube videos not recising to fill the screen when the full screen option is chosen
[15:24] <Decode141> "Cannot install 'ia32-libs'"
[15:24] <pangolin> Decode141: what error are you getting?
[15:25] <Decode141> Cannot install 'ia32-libs'
[15:25] <vonfatz> total ubuntu/linux newbie here. last night I installed ubuntu onto a flash drive, and spent today setting up e-mail, browser, etc. I realized just now that I've been doing this under the default ubuntu account, and would like to move everything to a passworded account. is there a way that I can either transfer all of my settings, or rename and password the default account?
[15:25] <loganirc> why doesn't youtube play full size video on linux
[15:25] <pangolin> Decode141: that is it?
[15:25] <Decode141> Yep.
[15:25] <Decode141> I mean, I downloaded the package from Skype.com
[15:25] <Decode141> For my version
[15:25] <mneptok> Decode141: are you using x86-64 (AMD64) or i386?
[15:26] <Decode141> Then I opened it and it ran the software manager, I hit Enter and that shows up and nothing else. Note, I'm not able to get Wine working either
[15:26] <Decode141> AMD64
[15:26] <Decode141> I'm using wubi to dual boot with Windows.
[15:26] <mneptok> Decode141: did you download the AMD64 version of Skype?
[15:26] <Decode141> 64bit
[15:26] <pangolin> Decode141: this is on 11.10?
[15:26] <llutz> Decode141: why don't you get the 64bit skype.deb?
[15:27] <Decode141> Yeah, skype-ubuntu-2.2.0.35-1_amd64.deb
[15:27] <KingSteve032> Alright so I reinstalled ubuntu server 11.10 (Again) and I'm going to restart it.
[15:27] <llutz> Decode141: and this requires ia32-libs?
[15:27] <pangolin> Decode141: try installing ia32-libs-multiarch
[15:27] <mneptok> vonfatz: use the default account to create the account you actually want to use. scream when that's done.
[15:27] <Decode141> Asper the description in the s/w manager, yep.
[15:28] <meco> Can anyone see what's eating my bandwidth? http://imagebin.org/191748
[15:28] <vonfatz> mneptok: done, I'm logged into the default right now, but have already set up the one I want.
[15:28] <mneptok> vonfatz: PM?
[15:29] <vonfatz> make it so
[15:30] <idefix> !PHP
[15:32] <TheBuntu> right now im in kubuntu. Can install ubuntu-desktop with gnome3 shell insted of unity
[15:32] <ghoti> _jason: the issue isn't the installed software, it's that I don't have root because /bin/su and /usr/bin/sudo are now owned by www-data.  I *am* planning to reinstall eventually, but I can't afford to take down a production server (albeit damaged) for the time it'll take to re-install.
[15:32] <karthick87> Is there a good documentation for setting up a PXE server?
[15:32] <ababaab> how to run windows applications and games on ubuntu
[15:32] <rasyid7> hi .. anyone can help me setting up VNC for my remote ubuntu desktop ..
[15:32] <pangolin> TheBuntu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop gnome-shell
[15:32] <RaTTuS|BIG> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer karthick87
[15:32] <shadowe989_> !wine | ababaab
[15:33] <pangolin> TheBuntu: after it is done installing you log out and select the appropriate menu option at the login screen.
[15:33] <Badman> !virtualbox
[15:33] <rasyid7> !vnc
[15:33] <Badman> !virtualbox | ababaab
[15:33] <TheBuntu> pangolin: k
[15:34] <ababaab> !gr
[15:35] <rasyid7> hi .. anyone can help me setting up VNC for my remote ubuntu desktop ..
[15:35] <salo> hey, since upgrading to ubuntu 11.10 my mouse pointer keeps freezing from time to time
[15:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> !vnc | rasyid7
[15:36] <ababaab> !kde
[15:37] <salo> it has just frozen again and removing and adding the psmouse driver doesnt help :/
[15:37] <ababaab> !gnome | ababaab
[15:37] <TheBuntu> how well is ATI or AMD catalyst going to do in gnome shell
[15:38] <Dynamit> I have a weird problem i have connect a hdmi kabel i know that are 100% problem free and Nvidia software panel detect the tv but i don't get any picture and i know that the hdmi on the tv is working because with a windows computer it work without any problem
[15:39] <Dynamit> and on i think Ubuntu 9.04 i have use the hdmi port on this computer without any problem
[15:40] <ababaab> !vnc > ababaab
[15:40] <antonio21> xcxcx
[15:40] <salo> regarding the mousepointer freeze: anyone that had the problem and found a workaround?
[15:41] <SVNDR> is there anyway to make the unity bar static? but also so it doesnt hide the page where it sits?
[15:42] <almoxarife> Dynamit: that is odd, have you asked the people at #xbmc?
[15:42] <Slartibart> What happens if a iptable chain is called from some other chain(FORWARD) and the called chain contains "ACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere"? My problem is that FORWARD seems to continue beyond that line, which I think it shouldn't be doing..
[15:42] <Dynamit> no but is not xbmc related is Ubuntu related problem
[15:43] <Dynamit> i will try other driver's for my video card
[15:44] <almoxarife> Dynamit: it's a question of who sees the error most often, these folk or the xbmc? get it?
[15:44] <SVNDR> Who was just helping me get the Unity Bar Rotated?
[15:44] <Dynamit> o you mean like that
[15:44] <Dynamit> ;)
[15:44] <Dynamit> every one that use dual screen with hdmi port
[15:44] <Dynamit> :P
[15:44] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: was it you just helping me do the Unity bar thing?
[15:45] <GeForce88> i'm trying to link electric sheep screen saver to xscreensaver, but the listint for it isn't showing up. will electric sheep screensaver work with 11.10?
[15:46] <karthick87> I am not able to change the wallpaper of few ubuntu machines using this command gconftool-2 -t string -s /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename "/usr/share/backgrounds/Amitabh.jpg" why?
[15:46] <Pulsewidth> What's the Ubuntu text mode installer called?
[15:47] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  meep!
[15:48] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: lol i had a mind blank.. i got it installed and its working.. just wondering if you know a way to keep it static to the bottum of the screen, but also so it doesnt hide the bottum of a page?
[15:48] <Pulsewidth> eg. Graphical installer is "ubiquity", what is the alternative installer called?
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  you have to install CCSM, and there, choose Unity Desktop plugin
[15:49] <irocksu> hi
[15:49] <novaspirit> hi all, i have setup a samba share on my home network and i am trying to use my windows machine to make some files readonly. when i recheck the file the properties don't set. how can i make it readonly from windows
[15:49] <irocksu> i am following  this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[15:49] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: legend.. cheers
[15:49] <g0th> hi
[15:49] <g0th> audio recording in skype and the flash plugin is not working for me
[15:49] <irocksu> and want to debuild my package, but i always get this error: package-contains-info-dir-file
[15:49] <ababaab> is it possible to install ubuntu on iMac?
[15:50] <g0th> I can get audio recording to work in skype if I manually select the correct hardware in pavucontrol
[15:50] <g0th> but I have to do it each time I make a call
[15:50] <irocksu> i know the cause, its a file called dir.gz in info, but it gets created automatically
[15:50] <irocksu> what can i do?
[15:50] <g0th> is there no way to tell skype that I want to use "audio adapter" instead of "internal audio" for recording?
[15:50] <GeForce88> i would really like to be able to use the screensaver 'electric sheep' but it's not showing up in the screensaver list. any ideas?
[15:50] <g0th> also: I have no clue what to do about the flash plugin
[15:50] <linelevel> Hi guys, I accidentally let my /home partition get completely full ("0 bytes free"), and then when I rebooted my machine, some parts of my user profile were missing: the shortcut icons in my top panel were missing (they reverted to the defaults for a new user), and the system keeps telling me that my msater keyring password is incorrect (this is a big problem...). Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[15:51] <GeForce88> g0th, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:52] <g0th> GeForce88 that is installed
[15:52] <g0th> how do I test it?
[15:52] <GeForce88> g0th, youtube.com requires flash
[15:53] <g0th> flash is working
[15:53] <g0th> just not audio recording with it
[15:53] <g0th> but maybe it is the mistake of the site
[15:53] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: all i have there is Ubuntu Unity Plugin, and Ubuntu Unity Rotated Plugin(which i am using now)
[15:53] <g0th> so it would be nice if I could test it on something that should definitely work
[15:53] <g0th> in any case I also have the issue with skype
[15:54] <BlaDe__> Hi guys
[15:54] <g0th> so I thought it is probably the same thing
[15:54] <BlaDe__> blade@spooshi:/etc/ventrilo/ventsrv$ file server
[15:54] <BlaDe__> server: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[15:54] <BlaDe__> -bash: ./server: No such file or directory
[15:54] <BlaDe__> why on earth is this ?
[15:54] <g0th> I have 64bit btw
[15:54] <BlaDe__> It's clearly there, I can see it.. I chown'd it to my user, and set +x but it says no such file/directory when I try to run it
[15:55] <Kouen> hello
[15:55] <Kouen> happy new year for everyone
[15:55] <GeForce88> g0th, i have 64 bit 11.10 and flash works fine for me. might be your speakers? or maybe your sound settings are on mute?
[15:56] <g0th> my asound.conf is empty
[15:56] <g0th> is that ok?
[15:56] <g0th> GeForce88: where do I change the settings?
[15:56] <GeForce88> i'm trying to get electric sheep screen saver to show up as a choice under xscreensaver. anyone have any ideas? symblink maybe ?
[15:56] <vonfatz> can I get whoever was helping me before to message me again?
[15:56] <g0th> GeForce88: I am very confused because there are like 5 different places
[15:56] <g0th> GEForce88: I mainly used pavucontrol
[15:56] <langbiiang> exit
[15:57] <pangolin> vonfatz: I believe it was mneptok
[15:57] <Kouen> how can i disable telnet-ssl daemon??
[15:57] <GeForce88> g0th, just look up at your sound icon. see if it's turned up and not on mute
[15:57] <vonfatz> thanks man
[15:57] <Kouen> ubuntu 11.10
[15:57] <g0th> yes all not muted
[15:58] <g0th> as I mentioned
[15:58] <GeForce88> g0th, reinstall flashplugin, or use google chrome
[15:58] <rasyid7> is there any way we can do a bandiwidth speedtest on command line ?
[15:58] <g0th> it works if I switch to the correct device during skype recording
[15:58] <g0th> I already reinstalled the flashplugin
[15:58] <g0th> how do I test if audio recording works with flashplugin?
[15:58] <g0th> also: what about skype?
[15:58] <g0th> also: I cannot play audio in e.g. spotify and somewhere else at the same time
[15:59] <g0th> many audio issues
[15:59] <GeForce88> g0th, do you have sound AT ALL ?
[15:59] <g0th> when I e.g. have flash open somewhere I need to quit spotify and restart it again to hear anything
[15:59] <g0th> yes I do
[15:59] <g0th> I have one internal sound card and an "audio adapter". the second is my microphone
[15:59] <g0th> it is a usb device
[16:00] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: you there ol' chap?
[16:00] <Guest28558> hi
[16:01] <sttg> hi
[16:01]  * ab3 
[16:01] <putyn> hey - i need to compile a 32bit library that will run on a 64bit system but im not sure what argumemnts i need to pass to the configure process - can someone help me ?
[16:01]  * SVNDR 
[16:02] <phsontung> test
[16:02] <LetsShowEm> haôôo
[16:02] <LetsShowEm> haLLo
[16:02] <LetsShowEm> sLe
[16:04] <Kouen> how can i disable telnet-ssl daemon??
[16:05] <SekerShell-Netwo> www.sekershell.com
[16:05] <SekerShell-Netwo> www.sekershell.com
[16:05] <SekerShell-Netwo> www.sekershell.com
[16:05] <SekerShell-Netwo> www.sekershell.com
[16:05] <FloodBot1> SekerShell-Netwo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  ping!
[16:05] <idefix> can a user be in different groups?
[16:06] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: yea yea?
[16:06] <llutz> idefix: sure
[16:06] <idefix> what group will the files he make be assigned to then?
[16:06] <SekerShell-Netwo> www.sekershell.com
[16:06] <SekerShell-Netwo> www.sekershell.com
[16:06] <SekerShell-Netwo> www.sekershell.com
[16:06] <SekerShell-Netwo> www.sekershell.com
[16:06] <SekerShell-Netwo> www.sekershell.com
[16:06] <FloodBot1> SekerShell-Netwo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:06] <idefix> llutz?
[16:06] <llutz> idefix: his primary group
[16:06] <idefix> can he switch groups somehow?
[16:07] <qmr> SD Card reader on HP G72 isn't working... anyone have any brilliant ideas?
[16:07] <sanman> idefix: newgrp
[16:07] <g0th> ...
[16:07] <qmr> I have USB 2.0 multicard reader in lsusb
[16:08] <llutz> idefix: permanently "usermod -g ...."
[16:10] <putyn> hey - i need to compile a 32bit library on a 64bit system but im not sure what argumemnts i need to pass to the configure process - any ideas ?
[16:11] <mintux> the ssh is disabled in our network . but I can use a toonel (java proxy software ) it's my output setting to use this proxy http://www.img4up.com/up2/25713373976114465858.png  my question is: is it possible to set this proxy on my ssh that the ssh use this channel to connect ? something like hhtp_port in export ?
[16:12] <andrew[a]clt> Anybody know of an issue where kworker uses 100% cpu under 11.10?
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> putyn  you may need ia32-lib, but i do not know if it still exists as of 11.10
[16:12] <putyn> im running 10.04
[16:12] <eddi3x3> how do I switch the sound cards in alsa if card 1 is the actual card I want to use? here is my asound.conf http://pastebin.com/Hs9qXYcf
[16:12] <idefix> if it says in the man page: newgrp [-] [group] does it mean that you can use a - flag, or what?
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> andrew[a]clt  yes, i have it too, it's due to the intel graphics card
[16:13] <Alan> I'm using internet connection sharing successfully, but i can't actually make connections between the 2 machines involved in the sharing - how can i make this happen?
[16:13] <andrew[a]clt> MonkeyDust, Is there a workaround? I can't use the machine at all
[16:14] <llutz> idefix: continue reading " If the optional - flag is given, the user's..."
[16:14] <putyn> well the library compiles if i run ./configure  and make and make install - but it compiles it for 64bits system - i need it to be for 32bit cause the programm im trying to use doesn't like the 64bit library
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> andrew[a]clt  there is none, i got rid of the problem after the last dist-upgrade, but the kworker bug is still in ps-list
[16:14] <idefix> llutz I just thought - was some sort of wildcard or so
[16:15] <andrew[a]clt> MonkeyDust, it seems like a regression, I had linux on the same laptop about 1-1.5 years ago with no issues
[16:15] <llutz> idefix: nope, literally "-"  same as with "su -"
[16:15] <llutz> (ok, "su" not with *buntu)
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> andrew[a]clt  possible cause may be, that you have too many startup-programs, running as daemons in the background
[16:15] <idefix> I dont' get it
[16:16] <llutz> idefix: "newgrp - users" vs "newgrp users"
[16:17] <idefix> llutz you mean newgrp - users, users are su's and newgrp users, users are not?
[16:17] <vibhav> hi
[16:17] <llutz> idefix: no, forget about "su" which was just another example for the usage of a plain "-" as an option
[16:18] <andrew[a]clt> MonkeyDust, fresh install, not that familiar with ubuntu, what would be starting up by default?
[16:18] <idefix> is the newgrp a command only available to the su?
[16:18] <llutz> idefix: NO, forget about "su" in relation to "newgrp"
[16:18] <idefix> sorry for being so neurotic, but I have no option
[16:19] <padhu> How can i get the list of recent document list in ssh connection
[16:19] <llutz> idefix: "man newgrp"   tells you what the "-" does
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> andrew[a]clt  as little programs as possible
[16:19] <andrew[a]clt> MonkeyDust, seems to happen on the live cd too
[16:20] <[o_O]> hi guys, is there a download to get a packages cd for ubuntu for offline installation?
[16:20] <abhinavmehta> whats the terminal-command to find whether my OS is using Grub or LILO..?
[16:20] <idefix> why can you look through the terminal?
[16:20] <xangua> !offline | [o_O]:
[16:20] <[o_O]> meaning after i install, a cd with software on it to use, i have no internet at home.
[16:21] <xangua> abhinavmehta: ubuntu uses grub
[16:21] <[o_O]> xangua: i have no internet at home
[16:21] <Alan> never mind me, i had a load of junk in iptables....
[16:21] <abhinavmehta> I know, but if I'm on EC2 cloud…than may be some of custom-instance, may be non-debian based using lilo….so how to identify that..?
[16:21] <[o_O]> cd with like flash, vlc etc
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> andrew[a]clt  http://paste.ubuntu.com/792831/
[16:22] <abhinavmehta> xangua: its not just about ubuntu…and the latest default pkg.
[16:23] <abhinavmehta> I'm looking to know, in-geenral.
[16:23] <g0th> when I right click on a flash window, the "Settings" part is grey, why?
[16:23] <abhinavmehta> so anyone, how to find via terminal, that my operating-system is using grub or lilo..?
[16:24] <g0th> I can only click on "global" settings
[16:24] <t1berius> Hi, whenever I try ssh-ing into anywhere, I get this fatal error: PTY allocation request failed on channel 0
[16:24] <t1berius> Can anyone tell me why this is occurring?
[16:25] <t1berius> I'm trying to authenticate/test with some git repositories I have at bitbucket.org and at github.com
[16:25] <t1berius> Normally, I just do 'ssh git@bitbucket.org' and 'ssh git@github.com' and everything is fine. Now I'm using 11.10 for the first time and having this problem.
[16:25] <padhu> the answer is $ more ~/.recently-used.xbel
[16:26] <karthick87> is there any packages installed for ec2 in ubuntu 10.04 by default?
[16:26] <padhu> Thanks Cru
[16:26] <abhinavmehta> karthick87: install ec2 tools via apt-get
[16:27] <abhinavmehta> there are 2 pkgs, for ami and api.
[16:27] <karthick87> abhinavmehta: I just need to remove those packages how?
[16:27] <abhinavmehta> apt-get remove
[16:28] <karthick87> I am getting this error E: Couldn't find package ec2
[16:28] <abhinavmehta> ohh..than edit path to include ec2 pkg
[16:28] <karthick87> abhinavmehta: I am getting the following error in puppet client, root@TME25:~# puppetd --test err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: Could not retrieve local facts: bad URI(is not URI?): http://169.254.169.254/2008-02-01/meta-data/<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>HTTP access denied</TITLE></HEAD><BODY><img src/
[16:29] <karthick87> abhinavmehta: That url refers to ec2 package right?
[16:29] <abh> anyone can help me on y my logout button can't use?
[16:29] <abhinavmehta> cool…is your puppet running in sudo mode…and ec2 tools in user mode..?
[16:29] <SVNDR> How do i reset my computer in Ubuntu?
[16:30] <karthick87> abhinavmehta: Yes its running in sudo mode
[16:30] <abhinavmehta> karthick87: hope you got your answer than..
[16:31] <abhinavmehta> karthick87: see…your ec2 pkg is getting located by your local-user .bashrc or whatever…..and while you run puppet in sudo mode, it fails to locate ec2-pkg…coz sudo don't know ec2-pkgs path..
[16:31] <karthick87> abhinavmehta: even if i run puppetd --test from root user i am getting that error
[16:31] <SVNDR> better question.. IS THERE a way to reset my computer while in Ubuntu..
[16:31] <abhinavmehta> karthick87: hope you got your answer
[16:31] <arjun_> Hi, how do I install Gnome 3 in Oneiric (11.10)?
[16:31] <abhinavmehta> which puppet version you using…don't use puppets, use 'puppet agent' instead…puppets is depreciated
[16:31] <karthick87> SVNDR: What you mean by reset?
[16:32] <xangua> arjun_: oneiric already comes with gnome 3.2
[16:32] <Kyle__> karthick87: Define reset: re-install, whipe everything, reset the power? Reset all settings?
[16:32] <SVNDR> karthick87: just restart it..
[16:32] <R3D> I am just going to trow this out to you all I have been trying to use xubuntu / ubuntu 11.10 but I can’t seem to use them with out turning off hyper threading in the system bios or using noacpi if I don’t the kernel will panic. And this seems to be with any distro that has the new 3.0 kernel. The newest kernel I can use without problems is 2.6.38-13.53 seems to work fine.
[16:32] <abhinavmehta> *puppetd
[16:32] <xangua> SVNDR: press the power button¿
[16:32] <SVNDR> xangua: i know i can do that.. but i mean from ubuntu.. i know my computer has a reset button, but thats not what im asking..
[16:33] <arjun_> xangua, oh sorry.
[16:33] <arges> SVNDR, top right corner, click the power looking button;
[16:33] <dmn0q> hello?
[16:33] <SVNDR> arges: there is no option to restart there
[16:33] <karthick87> abhinavmehta: even if i run puppetd agent --test the same problem occurs. Is it possible to remove that ec2 package?
[16:33] <ikonia> R3D: sounds like a kernel bug with your bios
[16:33] <arges> SVNDR, click shutdown
[16:33] <SVNDR> arges: ok thanks
[16:33] <arges> SVNDR, np
[16:33] <R3D> just my luck
[16:34] <opalepatrick> anyone come up with a solution for that horrid orange overlay that appears over half the screen on 11.10 unity?
[16:34]  * t1berius just discovered 'checkinstall' package
[16:34] <t1berius> so awesome
[16:34] <andrew[a]clt> MonkeyDust, is there a way in ubuntu to upgrade to a testing kernel?
[16:34] <dmn0q> why  my lightdm background turn into black although i had change it?
[16:35] <Kyle__> t1berius: I love checkinstall :) it's my hero
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> andrew[a]clt  try testdrive, its in the repos
[16:35] <DBH> hey guys. i am running 10.04 LTS right now.. and i installed hte source package and got 'linux-source-2.6.32' in /usr/src
[16:35] <t1berius> yes, I can't believe I've never heard of it before Kyle__
[16:35] <DBH> now i need to build the nvidia module and i need the header package for that.. what is the package for 2.6.32.49?
[16:35] <DBH> i dont see it
[16:36] <karthick87> abhinavmehta: Help me pls, i am struggling with it for the past two days.
[16:36] <ft_mn> Hi again people, Is it possible for a hidden Access Point NOT to emit any beacon frames at all???
[16:38] <ft_mn> How is it possible to see all the joined channels on this Server?
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> andrew[a]clt  what you can do, use unetbootin to temp install 12.04 on your harddrive, you can boot it from the grub and delete again with unetbootin
[16:38] <andrew[a]clt> I can run 12.04 it's a fresh install, I have no data I care about losing
[16:38] <karthick87> abhinavmehta: any guesses?
[16:41] <xangua> !pangolin | andrew[a]clt
[16:41] <ranny> hey i need some help installig curl on ubuntu cant get it to work :(
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> installing curl?
[16:41] <ranny> i do apt-get install php5-curl
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> curl is a command to download webpages
[16:42] <ranny> but after install i get a (end)  and cant do any things els then ctrl+c and start over
[16:43] <ranny> any one got an ide ?
[16:46] <duckxx> what do you guys think of this ? im thinking about designing one for Ubuntu as well... http://www.etsy.com/listing/89726383/vim-reference-wood-card-vi-editor-laser
[16:47] <Teratogen> the only thing that I have to say about a reference card is the very first thing that is on the reference card and IS IN BOLD is how to get out of the software
[16:47] <Teratogen> like how to exit vim if you type vim by mistake
[16:47] <dsenator> hi there
[16:47] <Teratogen> that should be the first thing
[16:47] <idefix> that's quite impressive, duckxx
[16:47] <dsenator> i need some help anyone
[16:47] <dsenator> i am kinda new here or at this
[16:47] <subone> Running Ubuntu 11.10, is there a way to switch my home directory? The installation didn't use my home partition automatically.
[16:47] <idefix> there are many people on earth
[16:48] <dsenator> trying to convert some pdf to avi or  to flv
[16:48] <t1berius> well, it's possible the problem was on Github and Bitbucket's end
[16:48] <dsenator> in ubuntu, any ways to do that...
[16:48] <t1berius> after running ssh with the -vv flags, I saw that I was auth'd by them
[16:48] <shadowe989_> how do i navigate the terminal foward one word, I hit "control + f" and it brings the "file" context menu of the shell. Anyway around this besides remapping? I dont want to make a bad habit since I work with terminals alot.
[16:48] <t1berius> so, cloning, pushing etc works fine
[16:48] <t1berius> thanks everyone
[16:49] <dsenator> anyone pls
[16:49] <shadowe989_> im sorry "alt + f"
[16:49] <dsenator> ii need to convert pdf to avi or to flv
[16:49] <subone> shadow98, do you mean move your cursor forward one word?
[16:49] <shadowe989_> yeah
[16:49] <Teratogen> duckxx, make sure to put in bold laser how to get out of vi/vim
[16:49] <subone> shadow98, Try ctrl+rightarrow
[16:49] <dsenator> hi
[16:50] <duckxx> idefix, thanks... im hoping the community of open source software would support something like this.. i was thinking contributing $3-$5 back to each open source community for every purchase.. im planning to do ones for gentoo, ubuntu, python, etc.
[16:50] <shadowe989_> ok sec thanks!!
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> Teratogen  Esc and then q
[16:50] <shadowe989_> yeah that works, thanks buddy!
[16:50] <subone> shadow98, of course ctrl+leftarrow for the other direction
[16:50] <shadowe989_> :)
[16:51] <duckxx> would u guys buy it for $20 ?
[16:51] <duckxx> http://www.etsy.com/listing/89726383/vim-reference-wood-card-vi-editor-laser
[16:51] <llutz> !ot | duckxx
[16:51] <duckxx> o ok.. np
[16:55] <t1berius> Is there something wrong with Ubuntu's 'chsh' command? I try to change use it to change from Bash to ZSH to no avail several times. When I went to view the man pages, none of the flags for it work, and all produce errors of 'invalid option' except the -s flag to actually change the default shell....and that -s flag doesn't even work itself.
[16:55] <dsenator> ok  no one to help here... thanks
[16:56] <Dynamit> How will i remove anything that are left from my video-card driver's i have power-failure before so some things are left from the video-card driver's
[16:56] <RaTTuS|BIG> dsenator - what is your question/
[16:56] <t1berius> I've tried running the chsh command as a normal user and as sudo with no luck, on Ubuntu 11.10, but also have had this problem on 10.04
[16:56] <charles_> hi
[16:56] <charles_> y
[16:58] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know if 10.04.3 supports the integrated graphics in the LGA1155 chip? Intel HD Graphics 2000/3000
[16:58] <llutz> t1berius: works here as expected
[16:59] <dsenator> RaTTuS- i was just looking for how to convert a pdf to avi or flv in ubuntu, i know some windows programme can do it
[16:59] <t1berius> llutz: seems like a pretty simple thing...any clue why it's acting up?
[16:59] <Dynamit> Nobody that know how to remove any leftovers from my video-card driver's?
[16:59] <llutz> t1berius: nope
[17:00] <t1berius> :/
[17:00] <llutz> t1berius: just to be sure: you already have zsh installed?
[17:00] <t1berius> yes llutz
[17:00] <LoRez> how does one go about completely disabling /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules?
[17:00] <t1berius> I have to invoke it manually
[17:00] <sskalnik> If I exited minicom without resetting the modem, and now the serial port I was using is "busy" and can't be used, how might I free it back up? Nothing in the minicom docs, so I am wondering if there is a manual method.
[17:01] <maheanuu> Dynamit, will PDF Editor handle that?
[17:01] <Dynamit> handle what?
[17:01] <t1berius> normally I'm used to launching gnome-terminal and being thrown into tmux with zsh as my shell, since I have a snippet in my .zshrc file to automatically detect whether a tmux session is running and attach to it, if not, create one and jump in
[17:01] <dsenator> i was just looking for how to convert a pdf to avi or flv in ubuntu, i know some windows programme can do it
[17:01] <vdandre> Hi. How is Unity support for HD3000 inside an Lenovo X220? Does somebody have some experence?
[17:01] <t1berius> now, I'm just brought into normal bash and have to manually launch zsh
[17:01] <llutz> t1berius: getent passwd <youruser>           what does it show as shell?
[17:02] <sskalnik> And if I can't get minicom to play nice, is there another straightforward command for testing out serial ports>?
[17:02] <maheanuu> The PDF conversion, wasn't that you asking about that
[17:02] <t1berius> llutz: mohomed:x:1001:1001:mohomed,,,:/home/mohomed:/bin/zs
[17:02] <Dynamit> no
[17:02] <t1berius> missed an h
[17:02] <llutz> t1berius: so gnome-terminal thingy
[17:02] <t1berius> llutz: mohomed:x:1001:1001:mohomed,,,:/home/mohomed:/bin/zsh
[17:02] <t1berius> I see
[17:02] <maheanuu> Sorry, thought it was
[17:02] <Dynamit> i asked How will i remove anything that are left from my video-card driver's i have power-failure before so some things are left from the video-card driver's
[17:03] <maheanuu> OK, my fault, still on my 1st cuppa java
[17:03] <llutz> t1berius: did you logout/relogin after chsh to zsh?
[17:03] <t1berius> not yet
[17:03] <t1berius> that's probably it
[17:03] <t1berius> I'll try that llutz, thanks
[17:04] <maheanuu> dsenator, I think that PDF Editor can handle that
[17:04] <Power-crack45> kien aki abla español coño
[17:04] <Dynamit> a PDF editor handle my problem noway
[17:04] <llutz> !es | Power-crack45
[17:04] <dsenator> mahean can yu explain pls
[17:04] <Cifra-2> x"D
[17:04] <dsenator> conversion from pdf to avi?
[17:05] <mintux>  I have http proxy worked on localhost and 2213 port (if I set on browser it worked)  I want ssh use this proxy to connect . how can I do that ?
[17:05] <maheanuu> Weren't you asking for a PDF converter
[17:05] <Dynamit> no
[17:05] <Dynamit> i asked How will i remove anything that are left from my video-card driver's i have power-failure before so some things are left from the video-card driver's
[17:05] <SVNDR> Isnt the Unity Dock supposed to popup when i hover my mouse over it?? if i have a window that is maximized the dock will not popup.. ive checked the compiz settings and it says it should, but it just doesnt
[17:05] <maheanuu> dsenator, you asked for a PDF converter didn't you
[17:06] <ubuntuaddicted> is the Intel HD Graphics 2000/3000 graphics card supported with 3D rendering with 10.04.3, does anyone know?
[17:06] <dsenator> nope i didnt
[17:06] <dsenator> I was asking for how to convert pdf to avi, since windows can also do that
[17:06] <dsenator> some windows programme i mean
[17:06] <maheanuu> Damn, I guess I am loosing the few micro grams of lucidity I thought I had left
[17:07] <maheanuu> Can anyone here possibly help me get my CD/DVD Rom drive back...   I see it in "Places-Computer" but cannot communicate with it or mount it or anything????
[17:08] <limeage> SVNDR:  The same on my 11.10  after while it starts working.  still do not catch  what  triggers this on
[17:08] <mintux> I could not connect to my server while 1 week
[17:08] <t1berius> Besides using gnome-tweak-tool, is there no other way to change the system fonts in Ubuntu 11.10 Oneiric anymore ?
[17:08] <pmjdebruijn> I'm having an issue with Xorg (intel driver), my (only) display isn't getting marked "Primary" in xrandr automatically, only if I run the GNOME Displays tool it gets marked as Primary, does anybody have experience with this? any clue why this happens, this behavior breaks GNOME Color Manager
[17:08] <SVNDR> limeage: odd stuff.. its starting to peeve me off abit, im constantly having to minmize stuff just to see it
[17:09] <limeage> dsenator: could you please explain how the conversion should be done?
[17:09] <SVNDR> limeage: no bullcrap, but just as after ive asked that.. it started working again :|
[17:10] <limeage> SVNDR: Winkey (the key with win flag) helps a bit
[17:10] <andrew[a]clt> Is 12.04 intentially made > 700mb :/
[17:10] <SVNDR> limeage: cheers ill remember that for next time (god forbit it happens again)
[17:11] <raven> hexedit - how to find out the bad position of a raw-dv file? (playtime<->hex-offset)
[17:11] <engammalsko> How do I use compiz on unity? (11.10)
[17:12] <xangua> engammalsko: you can configure compiz with compiz setting manager
[17:12] <limeage> SVNDR: it will not  enable auto popup  it just another way to popup it and icons will have hot-keys hints
[17:12] <raven> hexedit - how to find out the bad position of a raw-dv file? (playtime<->hex-offset)
[17:12] <SVNDR> limeage: awesome cheers, either way it working again at the moment ;p
[17:12] <engammalsko> xangua: I know. But what should I change? I don't have to "draw unity shell plugin". Do I need it? Where can I get it?
[17:12] <makara> i have 2 displays. unplugging one kills the other as well. what to do?
[17:13] <xangua> !ccsm| engammalsko
[17:13] <vince> ·ubuntu-es
[17:13] <vince> #ubuntu-es
[17:13] <lluvia> the text mode installation use ubiquity?
[17:13] <makara> theres dedicated nvidia gcard
[17:14] <engammalsko> xangua: 0 to update install and remove.
[17:14] <soee> hi, someone who can help me with TP-Link tl-wn822n card ?
[17:14] <engammalsko> xangua: I already have compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:14] <xangua> engammalsko: then use it¿
[17:14] <makara> soee: just say
[17:14] <engammalsko> xangua: By typing ccsm?
[17:15] <xangua> or the app name in the dash engammalsko
[17:15] <soee> makara: what drivers do i have to install etc ?
[17:15] <t1berius> llutz: great success after a reboot :)
[17:15] <t1berius> thanks
[17:15] <soee> makara: atm i have only card plugged in
[17:16] <makara> soee: ubuntu should handle it. what's not happening?
[17:16] <engammalsko> xangua: My problem is that if I enable compiz. The unity shell won't draw. And I need the plugin.
[17:16] <soee> makara: doesnt see device, one moment ill try to reboot desktop pc
[17:16] <ubuntuaddicted> is the Intel HD Graphics 2000/3000 graphics card supported with 3D rendering with 10.04.3, does anyone know?
[17:17] <Argorok> Hello, how can I get a terminal session from my new fresh ubuntu 11.10 x86 installation? My display get "NO SIGNAL" after grub menu (apperas grub menu, then I chose the entry, then appears a ubuntu splash screen [very fast], ant them go to NO SIGNAL). I need to enter in console mode to install my nvidia drivers
[17:18] <engammalsko> xangua: Is there something I need to change in ccsm? Something I need to install? Or run?
[17:18] <Guest16891> exit
[17:18] <Guest16891> exit
[17:18] <Guest16891> exit
[17:18] <FloodBot1> Guest16891: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:18] <makara> ignore Guest16891
[17:19] <LoRez> sskalnik: screen
[17:19] <makara> soee: did you run lspci in a terminal?
[17:19] <soee> makara: ok still nothing, before i have had tl-wn722n, do i have to remove something so the new device can work?
[17:20] <makara> no one else had dual display issues? my laptop is effectively a desktop if I can't unplug this the second screen. sucks
[17:21] <lluvia> what to do if ubi-partman (the partitioner) fails? there is some other way of selecting the partitions?
[17:21] <Ra_> hi, is there a way to watch netflix on ubuntu?
[17:21] <h00k> Ra_: Not at the moment. They claim support 'within 12 months' as of a few months ago.
[17:21] <Toph2> Ra_,,, via Firefox
[17:22] <Ra_> says i need silverlight from windows
[17:22] <g0th> hi
[17:22] <Ra_> i use mozilla already
[17:22] <shadowe989_> yea it depends on silverlight =/
[17:22] <Toph2> Ra_,,, ok,, sorry,, i do watch it on my wife's windows machine
[17:22] <Ra_> ahh
[17:22] <shadowe989_> amazon prime works on linux though
[17:23] <Ra_> amazon prime?
[17:23] <shadowe989_> good hold over until netflix imo
[17:23] <g0th> why can't I click on "settings" in the context menu of a flash app in firefox. I use the latest ff and adobe-flashplugin on latest ubuntu
[17:23] <g0th> any ideas?
[17:23] <shadowe989_> yeah they offer a netflix subscription with it
[17:23] <shadowe989_> netflix like*
[17:24] <shadowe989_> they give free 1st month I believe still and wont charge u
[17:24] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone use the Intel HD Graphics 2000/3000
[17:24] <iceroot> !anyone | ubuntuaddicted
[17:25] <RaTTuS|BIG> ubuntuaddicted http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1791325
[17:25] <lxu> hey guys. i'm having some problem with iscsi, using it with openstack. when i try to use discovery it returns Login I/O error, failed to receive a PDU.
[17:26] <makara> ubuntuaddicted: hardware support is better with every newer version. why use 10?
[17:26] <ivanney> hi, can someone tell me plz if there is any error in this cfg file (syslinux) which does not accept itś pass encryption http://pastebin.com/KhuRP7dN ?
[17:26] <Ra_> how to get netflix to plau on ubuntu?
[17:26] <Ra_> how to get netflix to play on ubuntu?
[17:27] <xangua> Ra_: install a windows virtual machine¿
[17:27] <shadowe989_> Ra_: well one method could be a virtualbox and install windows on it then watch it that way...
[17:27] <Ra_> ok
[17:27] <RaTTuS|BIG> Ra_ and requires Microsoft's Silverlight software to be installed.
[17:27] <shadowe989_> it works, thats how I tested it when I was setting it up for my girls wii
[17:28] <iceroot> Ra_: the other way would be "not support strange websites using non standard-technics"
[17:28] <RaTTuS|BIG> WHS^
[17:28] <shadowe989_> +1 iceroot, amazon prime is a good alternative imo :)
[17:28] <Ricj> Hello,can anyone help with http://askubuntu.com/questions/92797/how-to-fix-the-bold-font-rendering-issue-with-gnome-terminal
[17:29] <multipass> can you install amdccle on the ati open source driver?
[17:29] <ubuntuaddicted> because of LTS
[17:29] <ubuntuaddicted> I have a stable system and I hate Unity
[17:29] <iceroot> ubuntuaddicted: even 11.10 and higher cant be used without unity
[17:30] <iceroot> can
[17:30] <RaTTuS|BIG> !notunity
[17:30] <shades> I can't seem to find where apache put's it's www home
[17:30] <shadowe989_> Yep or switch to KDE etc.
[17:31] <shadowe989_> shades /var/www/
[17:31] <iceroot> shades: /var/www
[17:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> shades /var/www
[17:31] <shades> ok
[17:31] <shades> whenI located for that, it didn't come up
[17:31] <shades> even right after an updatdb ... 8 |
[17:31] <shadowe989_> odd...
[17:31] <iceroot> shades: because you are not using apache from the repos
[17:31] <mintux> in my FCKing countery they block everything . I need to connect to my server I got toonel from Toonel.net it's give me a port like 2213 and it's http proxy . host=127.0.0.1 and port=2213  by default I need to ssh using that proxy to connect my server  I use this document http://www.mtu.net/~engstrom/ssh-proxy.php  my proxy software is http://www.img4up.com/up2/81911427716126300411.png and my config is http://www.img4up.com/up2/15982937128951030637.png and 
[17:32] <iceroot> but /var/www/ should even exist when no apache is installed
[17:32] <shades> iceroot: no, I am now
[17:32] <shades> something went borked on my system
[17:32] <shades> I just must have typed somethign wrong when i looekd for it
[17:32] <libnotify> what is the best terminal music player i could use over ssh?
[17:33] <shadowe989_> mintux if your in a country that censors the US Gov funded a project called "tor" that will help you get around censors.
[17:33] <lxu> anyone knows about iscsitarget and open-iscsi?
[17:33] <mintux> shadowe989_: I need to use ssh . all of them are http proxy. my problem is how tunnel ssh over http proxy
[17:34] <t1berius> just use a VPN, it's better than Tor
[17:34] <shadowe989_> use a vpn
[17:34] <shadowe989_> i thought tor was vpn?
[17:34] <libnotify> tor is not vpn
[17:34] <shadowe989_> ahh never used it, i just know it works hmm
[17:34] <ChronosA> Does anybody know how to get eclispe and Java working on Ubuntu?
[17:35] <phnom> mintux: Maybe something like http://wiki.kartbuilding.net/index.php/Corkscrew_-_ssh_over_https ?
[17:35] <shadowe989_> ChronosA: just install it from the package manager
[17:35] <mintux> phnom:  I use that I got error .  I use this document http://www.mtu.net/~engstrom/ssh-proxy.php  my proxy software is http://www.img4up.com/up2/81911427716126300411.png and my config is http://www.img4up.com/up2/15982937128951030637.png and the output is http://codepad.org/mlJY914Q
[17:36] <shadowe989_> for the restricted java package u need to add a repo... sec for link
[17:36] <mintux> Proxy could not open connnection to mrg.name:  Forbidden
[17:36] <mintux> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[17:36] <bw_> I have searched the net and RTM, but I can't find a valid answer on the right way to stop a daemon from running at boot. In my case, I'm wanting to stop my ssh server from booting.
[17:36] <ChronosA> shodowe989_: I have and installed OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime but I cant run code in eclispe it keeps saying run as Ant build..
[17:36] <engammalsko> Where can I find visual effects in ubuntu 11.10?
[17:37] <engammalsko> I can't find it in appereance :(
[17:37] <shadowe989> ChronosA: Yikes im not sure.
[17:37] <phnom> mintux: Can't check my configuration right now, but aren't you supposed to have a file with the username and password and the path to that file in your ssh config?
[17:37] <xangua> engammalsko: with compis setting manager
[17:37] <xangua> compiz*
[17:37] <ChronosA> shadowe989: kk ty anyway
[17:37] <spartan2276> How can I create a Shortcut Launcher if the application is a .tar file and it runs from its own directory?
[17:37] <shadowe989> ChronosA: good luck :)
[17:38] <maheanuu> Is there a problem in here?  I had no entries show up for over 12 minutes?????
[17:38] <Argorok> I entered on my new fresh install using recovery option from grub menu. How can I set up my network now to install the needed vga drivers? I need to remount filesystem in rw mode to change the /etc/network/interfaces. But how can I do it?
[17:38] <Teratogen> who is blocking ssh?
[17:38] <Teratogen> Mother Russia?
[17:38] <spartan2276> the Application name is nightingale
[17:38] <mintux>  phnom: I deleted everything in .ssh except config file
[17:38] <libnotify> maheanuu: no problem in here
[17:38] <engammalsko> xangua: But compiz doesn't work. I change something but nothing happens
[17:39] <maheanuu> Now it is looking normal, but I have asked for help 3 times in the past 45 minutes and either anyone who might have answered was effectively not getting thru to me here in Tahiti
[17:39] <maheanuu> I had no update on my page for over 12 minutes
[17:39] <shadowe989> odd hmm
[17:39] <bw_> I have searched the net and RTM, but I can't find a valid answer on the right way to stop a daemon from running at boot. In my case, I'm wanting to stop my ssh server from booting any suggestions?
[17:40] <phnom> mintux: Ya, but if you need to identify with the proxy you need that information in a file and add that path to the ProxyCommand (Or something like that)
[17:40] <ubuntuaddicted> iceroot, exactly
[17:40] <engammalsko> I have problems with compiz on 11.10. I can't use compiz with the unity shell. What should I do to make it work?
[17:41] <mintux> phnom: hmm could you give me more details or a document ?
[17:41] <ubuntuaddicted> unity is the death of OLD ubuntu users from 2006. Why would they make such a drastic change and not allow us to change it
[17:41] <iceroot> ubuntuaddicted: because the gnome-project stopped gnome2
[17:41] <ubuntuaddicted> i mean, I am sure ubuntu tweak or someone will come with a way or there will be ANOTHER desktop manager
[17:41] <iceroot> ubuntuaddicted: it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:41] <ubuntuaddicted> ok
[17:42] <iceroot> ubuntuaddicted: there are so many, lxde, kde, gnome3, xfce4
[17:42] <phnom> mintux: It's in http://www.mtu.net/~engstrom/ssh-proxy.php below "Other Tricks with HTTP-Proxies"
[17:42] <iceroot> ubuntuaddicted: use what you want
[17:42] <insfi> hello everyone
[17:42] <ubuntuaddicted> iceroot, none as polished as Gnome IMO
[17:42] <lalagirl> hi insfi
[17:42] <maheanuu> ubuntuaddicted, therein is the reason I am staying with 10.10
[17:42] <ubuntuaddicted> OH, gnome3, I didn't see that on
[17:42] <iceroot> ubuntuaddicted: and lets stop the "unity is bad-discussion" here, ubuntu has nothing to do with it, if you want to "flame" about it  irc.gimp.net #gnome
[17:42] <ubuntuaddicted> there in the reason I am staying with 10.04.3 till like 2013
[17:43] <insfi> i have got a problem I am using ubuntu 10.10, problem is E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[17:43] <mintux> phnom: iv use this document . I want to know more about ssh path in config
[17:43] <bw_> How do I stop daemons from executing at boot the right way? I have rtm.
[17:43] <Seek1> ubuntu asks for password while there is none !
[17:43] <iceroot> ubuntuaddicted: every distri will stop uswing gnome2
[17:43] <insfi> hey can anybody help me
[17:44] <phnom> mintux: YA, but the thing that i talked about is in that document.
[17:44] <dr_willis> Hmm.. held packages.. You pinned some packages to be held back insfi ?
[17:44] <phnom> mintux: Other than that I don't know really.
[17:44] <insfi> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[17:44] <trism> bw_: if this is natty or later and the service has a script in /etc/init/ then you can: echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/servicename.override; (replacing servicename with lightdm or ssh or whatever)
[17:44] <mintux> hmmm
[17:45] <Seek1> ubuntu 11.1 asks for a password while there is none !
[17:45] <bw_> trism: Thanks, I will take a look at this now.
[17:45] <iceroot> Seek1: its your userpassword
[17:45] <dr_willis> Seek1:  asks where/when for what....
[17:45] <iceroot> !details | Seek1
[17:45] <elricl> Hello, bold fonts arent being rendered properly in terminal,is there any particular reason for this?
[17:45] <elricl> Can it be fixed?
[17:45] <engammalsko> Okay so when I install compizconfig-settings-manager I should get the unity plugin, right?
[17:45] <engammalsko> But I don't get it.
[17:45] <elricl> Example : http://i.stack.imgur.com/gGuE0.png
[17:47] <Seek1> when i try to download something from the software center, it keeps asking for a pass and when i go to system settings->user accounts-> click on the None next to password and try to add a password it asks for the current one while there isn't any current one !
[17:48] <iceroot> Seek1: so at the moment your user dont have a password?
[17:48] <Seek1> Yes.
[17:48] <ChronosA> Does anybody know how to get eclispe and Java working on Ubuntu?
[17:48] <iceroot> Seek1: please set a password, use "passwd" first line dont enter anything after that set a new password
[17:48] <iceroot> ChronosA: sudo apt-get install eclipse
[17:49] <Seek1> i you mean in the terminal
[17:49] <iceroot> Seek1: yes
[17:49] <dr_willis> It might be best if you kept a password...
[17:49] <engammalsko> Seriously where do I get the unity plugin for compiz?
[17:49] <ChronosA> iceroot: done that and install openjdk but code still wont run comes up with "run as ant build"??
[17:49] <iceroot> ChronosA: you install the openjdk jdk or jre?
[17:50] <iceroot> ChronosA: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[17:51] <Seek1> iceroot: Thank you it worked! , how to learn using the terminal for linux ?
[17:51] <bw_> trism: Mind telling me what exactly that does? I see that it the word manual is piped into the file ssh.override, but how does that change anything?
[17:51] <SolarisBoy> heh
[17:51] <Seek1> Best way i mean ?
[17:51] <trism> bw_: upstart override files allow you to modify the start on and stop on conditions of a service without modifying its config
[17:52] <engammalsko> Please help.
[17:52] <ChronosA> iceroot: Already had openjdk installed, installed it again said 0 updated etc. gonna reboot
[17:52] <engammalsko> How do I get the unity plugin for compiz?
[17:52] <ivanney> please, help me with syslinux
[17:53] <bw_> trism: Gonna reboot and test, what parameters can the .overrides take? I can look it up, but figured I would ask anway.
[17:53] <trism> bw_: http://upstart.at/2011/03/11/override-files-in-ubuntu-natty/ has a decent overview
[17:53] <bw_> trism: thanks
[17:53] <Argorok> Hello, how can I get a terminal session from my new fresh ubuntu 11.10 x86 installation? My display get "NO SIGNAL" after grub menu (apperas grub menu, then I chose the entry, then appears a ubuntu splash screen [very fast], ant them go to NO SIGNAL). I entered in recovery mode, installed nvidia-current from ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates. It generated another kernel image, but still not working. (Live CD works well)
[17:53] <AnonMasochist> how do I fix the ever so famous FREEZING problem in Ubuntu 10.04!?!, I have looked on ALL forums, and still can't find a freakin' solution, other than to switch to a less user friendly Linux OS.
[17:53] <ChronosA> iceroot: nope sitll doesnt work, when I try and run it it says "Run As Ant Build"
[17:53] <pepp-elito> Hi, I'm having problems with audio over hdmi in ubuntu 11.04, when the screensaver goes tosleep the audio stops, could this be fixed, i.e keeping audio over hdmi while the screen goes to sleep?
[17:54] <Seek1> General Question best resource to learn the CLI of ubuntu ?
[17:54] <dr_willis> Seek1:  theres 1000's of bash tutorials and guides online.
[17:54] <dr_willis> !bash | Seek1
[17:54] <dr_willis> Seek1:  i tend to see whats the most tagged at delicious.com
[17:55] <dr_willis> ivanney:  state the problem in more detail and see who can help.
[17:55] <Burninate> Does anyone know of a good reference/document management software that can do what Papers does on iOS?
[17:55] <ivanney> dr_willis, http://pastebin.com/KhuRP7dN
[17:55] <ivanney> dr_willis, the pass isn recognized when encrypted
[17:55] <Seek1> Thanks Doc :D
[17:56] <AnonMasochist> hmmm, should I repeat my question?
[17:56]  * AnonMasochist is very annoyed and pissed off
[17:56] <AnonMasochist> how do I fix the ever so famous FREEZING problem in Ubuntu 10.04!?!, I have looked on ALL forums, and still can't find a freakin' solution, other than to switch to a less user friendly Linux OS.	
[17:56] <iceroot> ChronosA: what is the output of "java -version"
[17:56] <_jason> AnonMasochist: "famous freezing problem" seems to vague
[17:56] <_jason> too even
[17:57] <iceroot> !details | AnonMasochist
[17:57] <iceroot> AnonMasochist: should we guess what the "famous FREEZING problem" is?
[17:57] <iceroot> AnonMasochist: you have a bug for that?
[17:57] <iceroot> Burninate: document-management? with version-control?
[17:57] <Lordveda> Does anyone here use synaptic for managing software installation?
[17:58] <iceroot> !anyone | Lordveda
[17:58] <dr_willis> Lordveda:  synaptic is perhaps the most popular gui for that task.
[17:58] <iceroot> there should be really an automaticly !anyone in this channel...
[17:58] <Argorok> Hello, how can I get a terminal session from my new fresh ubuntu 11.10 x86 installation? My display get "NO SIGNAL" after grub menu (apperas grub menu, then I chose the entry, then appears a ubuntu splash screen [very fast], ant them go to NO SIGNAL). I entered in recovery mode, installed nvidia-current from ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates. It generated another kernel image, but still not working. (Live CD works well)
[17:58] <Burninate> Okay, I'll rephrase: I'm looking for a citation manager that maintains a library of PDFs of scientific papers
[17:58] <xangua> iceroot: we have you ;)
[17:59] <Burninate> crossplatform, preferably but not necessarily
[17:59] <iceroot> Burninate: fedora (not the distribution) also maybe alfresco but for science fedora is common
[17:59] <Argorok> AnonMasochist, I'm getting angry too... I'm going to Fedora ¬¬ My Ubuntu Live CD recognize my display as well, wubi installation too, but the hard disk installation, no. Even with the goddamn nvidia drivers ¬¬
[17:59] <bw_> trism: is there any reason you can think of as to why this wouldn't have worked?
[17:59] <Lordveda> My next question is about synaptic which starts when I use my ordinary account for 1 sec and then disappears
[17:59] <Burninate> Thanks iceroot
[17:59] <Lordveda> When I try to run it from terminal I get the following error message
[18:00] <trism> bw_: which version of ubuntu are you on?
[18:00] <oCean> Argorok: calm down and don't start swearing in this channel
[18:00] <Y-DNA> wurup
[18:00] <ChronosA> iceroot: java version "1.6.0_23"
[18:00] <ChronosA> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11pre) (6b23~pre11-0ubuntu1.11.10)
[18:00] <ChronosA> OpenJDK Server VM (build 20.0-b11, mixed mode)
[18:00] <engammalsko> xangua: Can you help me? How do I get the plugin?
[18:00] <Y-DNA> SCREW M$$$$!! Long live Ubuntu!!
[18:00] <Lordveda> (synaptic:2114): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[18:00] <Lordveda> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'
[18:00] <Lordveda>   what():  vector::_M_range_check
[18:00] <Lordveda> Aborted
[18:00] <bw_> trism: natty 11.04
[18:01] <Y-DNA> Lordveda: stop spamming
[18:01] <oCean> Y-DNA: please don't post such silly messages
[18:01] <xangua> engammalsko: what plugin¿
[18:01] <iceroot> ChronosA: maybe have a look at #eclipse how to configure eclipse correctly because eclipse and java are correctly installed on your system
[18:01] <Lordveda> Y-DNA, I didn't spam
[18:01] <engammalsko> xangua: I'll give u a screenshot
[18:01] <Y-DNA> Lordveda: u well damn was spamming
[18:01] <ChronosA> ChronosA: ok ty
[18:01] <iceroot> Lordveda: what is the outout of "cat /etc/issue"
[18:01] <Lordveda> Y-DNA, I was told that I am allowed to paste 3 lines of error message
[18:01] <xangua> Y-DNA: stop please
[18:02] <Lordveda> I am using 11.10
[18:02] <Y-DNA> Lordveda: 3 lines of error is hardly useful for troubleshooting, use a paste site.
[18:02] <dr_willis> Lordveda:  try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then see if theres any updates, and try synaptic again
[18:02] <AnonMasochist> well, when I use Firefox, after a while the whole system freezes, requiring a hard reset, only to happen again later, same goes for whenever I play games that require a lot of graphics, like Warsow, this problem happens with loads of other programs too, like Mixxx. this problem has been reported by so many Ubuntu users, this problem only started to occur with Ubuntu 10.04 onwards, all I have found is a planned fix 'revise kernel', I
[18:02] <AnonMasochist>  need a fix now, I can't do anythin', it's driving me insane.
[18:02] <Y-DNA> help over here, plz
[18:02] <Argorok> oCean, you say that because is not you that need to work with this desktop and is stuck for 3 days now due to a motherfucker vga driver ¬¬
[18:03] <Lordveda> dr_willis, I have no problem with the ordinary update GUI agent
[18:03] <Argorok> oCean, oh, it hurts a lot ¬¬
[18:03] <trism> bw_: not sure, I'll take a look
[18:03] <SVNDR> My sound isnt working.. i installed ubuntu yesterday and didnt realise until now, when i tried playing music
[18:03] <Lordveda> though I know how to use the CLI
[18:03] <dr_willis> Lordveda:  also try running 'gksudo synaptic'  and see if that also crashes/fails
[18:03] <Gnea> SVNDR: laptop?
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  open a terminal and type alsamixer, make sure there's no MM
[18:04] <oCean> Argorok: stick with our channel's guidelines or you'll find yourself outside the channel
[18:04] <SVNDR> Gnea: yea
[18:04] <Lordveda> ok
[18:04] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: ok one sec
[18:04] <Gnea> !sound | SVNDR
[18:04] <AnonMasochist> anyone have a solution for me, please Dialog me in a tab, afk.
[18:04] <Argorok> oCean, who cares? outside or inside I have the same goddamn problem when install ubuntu. But in 11.10 it seems that nothing is working
[18:04] <Lordveda> dr_willis, It crashes
[18:04] <Gnea> SVNDR: go through the troubleshooting list in the 2nd URL, see if that fixes it
[18:04] <iceroot> Argorok: stop it now please
[18:04] <Y-DNA> mm... any DOWNLOADABLE UBUNTU THAT INSTALLS DIRECTLY TO USB??? making a live usb having to need an already installed ubuntu kinda defeats the purpose of LiveUSB.
[18:04] <Gnea> SVNDR: if not, ask again but be sure to come back with results
[18:05] <Gnea> !usb | Y-DNA
[18:05] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: where am i looking for MM?
[18:05] <dr_willis> Y-DNA:  you can image the 11.10 iso file straight to a usb via dd. or some other imageing tools.
[18:05] <engammalsko> xangua: http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/2315/pluginy.png
[18:05] <Y-DNA> Gnea: plz, don't provide me links blindlessly without reading first what I need.
[18:06] <Gnea> !attitude | Y-DNA
[18:06] <engammalsko> xangua: I don't have that one.
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> SVNDR  underneath the vertical bars, MM stands for mute, if it's not there, the cause of the problem is to be found elsewhere
[18:06] <dr_willis> Y-DNA:  you can also set up grub2 to boot iso files.
[18:06] <Y-DNA> I need a sort of image that DOES NOT depend on external hardware, CD BURNER and DOES NOT require extra steps.
[18:06] <Gnea> Y-DNA: the help here is free, don't expect me to bend over backwards.
[18:07] <Gnea> Y-DNA: read the URL, it doesn't require external hardware.
[18:07] <SVNDR> MonkeyDust: auto-mute was on.. but now it wont pickup that my headphones are plugged in and still plays through the PC speakers
[18:07] <bw_> trism: may have found the solution..rebooting I will let you know.
[18:07] <wols_> Y-DNA: there is no linux or OS image in existance you can directly download to a raw usb disk.
[18:07] <dr_willis> Y-DNA:  you may want to tell the channel what you are trying to do exactly. and what os you are on now.
[18:07] <wols_> you always have to use a program to write it, be it dd,cat,cp, etc
[18:07] <Gnea> Y-DNA: just plug your usb drive in after you've downloaded the iso and the appropriate program and do the math.
[18:07] <xangua> engammalsko: so you don't have a unity plugin aviable, because you neither use  ubuntu 11.04 or 11.10 ¿¿
[18:08] <engammalsko> xangua: No... I use 11.10.
[18:08] <libnotify> i asked a question... am i able to listen to music from my server remotely?
[18:08] <Gnea> libnotify: it is possible, yes.
[18:08] <dr_willis> libnotify:  should be able to. I do such a thing all the time.
[18:08] <wols_> Y-DNA: you already run on a linux so it shouldn't really be a problem
[18:08] <libnotify> what player do you use?
[18:08] <libnotify> talking about console based player
[18:09] <wols_> libnotify: yes. your esrver needs something to serve up the music files. e.g. a network share
[18:09] <Gnea> oh, I was about to say audacious....
[18:09] <Gnea> libnotify: pretty sure mpg123 would do it
[18:09] <Gentoo64> libnotify, i think cmus can with cmus-remote
[18:09] <engammalsko> xangua: I installed it today. A fresh install.
[18:09] <Gentoo64> its ncurses
[18:09] <engammalsko> xangua: .11.10 64-bit ubuntu
[18:09] <libnotify> cmus plays but no volume
[18:09] <Y-DNA> wols_: challenge accepted: sysresccd does it with A SINGLE ONE command --> bash ./usb_inst.sh (courtesy of gentoo under the hood)
[18:09] <wols_> libnotify: use moc
[18:10] <Gnea> !info cmus
[18:10] <Y-DNA> problem is that systemrescuecd don't have no sound.
[18:10] <Gnea> libnotify: make sure it's using the correct audio driver
[18:10] <xangua> engammalsko: tried to reset unity¿¿ with: unity --reset
[18:10] <bw_> trism: Got it working.
[18:10] <engammalsko> xangua: No I try it now.
[18:10] <trism> bw_: excellent, how?
[18:10] <Gnea> Y-DNA: so systemrescuecd has sound.
[18:10] <libnotify> moc, then mpg123...... which one has someone used?
[18:11] <engammalsko> xangua: unity is not installed :s
[18:11] <bw_> trism: I was redirecting output to /etc/init.d instead of /etc/init -_-
[18:11] <libnotify> that works fine
[18:11] <trism> bw_: ahh, that would do it, at least it is working now
[18:11] <engammalsko> xangua: I did a unity reset now
[18:12] <TheBuntu> anyone have any idea why with ATI graphics... Gnome Shell is crapy and unity xfce and kde are good
[18:12] <Y-DNA> Gnea: it don't, that's why I want Ubuntu LiveUSB withou-extra-cd-burning-linux-install-in-order-to-use-the-easy-liveUSB-creator, ya feel me??
[18:12] <Lordveda> What about using Packagekit for ubuntu?
[18:12] <bw_> trism: yea, thanks for your help..it's always nice talking to someone who knows there *nix.
[18:12] <engammalsko> xangua: Got this error while reseting: compiz (core) - Warn: failed to receive ConfigureNotify event on 0x3e00d91
[18:12] <wols_> Y-DNA: just looked at the ubuntu wiki about installation. ubuntu still uses the years old debian process for usb images. I think (and hope) they build hybrid images soon like debian did. then it's a simple "cp file.iso /dev/sdc"
[18:12] <dr_willis> wols_:  you can do that now with 11.10+ images
[18:12] <xangua> engammalsko: so you did not installed Ubuntu, what did you then¿¿ Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu ¿
[18:13] <libnotify> wols_: moc is fine?
[18:13] <dr_willis> wols_:  so ive totally missed what Y-DNA  issue is..
[18:13] <wols_> libnotify: rarely used it. it played
[18:13] <Gnea> Y-DNA: well, if you'd read the URL I suggested earlier instead of flipping me attitude, you would have found the answer already.
[18:13] <wols_> libnotify: gnea's suggestion is also worth a look
[18:13] <Tico> Hi, Does anyone know how to make AWK begin it's processing at line two and further (skip line 1)? Can you explain in newbie-language ;)
[18:13] <libnotify> via ssh session you mean?
[18:13] <Gnea> Y-DNA: unless there's something that you're not referencing
[18:13] <iceroot> Tico: #awk
[18:13] <wols_> libnotify: nothing works via ssh session cause ssh doesn't transport the audio
[18:14] <wols_> libnotify: the server will play the music on the server's speakers
[18:14] <iceroot> libnotify: pulseaudio can transport music over the network
[18:14] <Y-DNA> Gnea: which one of the two links I need?
[18:14] <iceroot> libnotify: with an ssh tunnel even over the wan
[18:14] <mbeierl> if I have a DVD with no apparent scratches or other damage, but doesn't get recognized by Ubuntu (or other DVD players) anymore, is there any way of attempting to read whatever raw sectors off the disk?  The disk was playable at one time.
[18:14] <SVNDR> I got my sound to start working, but now when i plug my headphone in the sound still plays through the PC Speakers and not the headphone..
[18:15] <dr_willis> mbeierl:  you could try ddrescue -  this is a data disk? or a movie disk? comercial disk?
[18:15] <libnotify> iceroot: need something that does it via a ssh session
[18:15] <Gnea> Y-DNA: it's up to you to figure that out.
[18:15] <mbeierl> dr_willis: commercial movie dvd.  I just get: Sense: Medium format corrupted
[18:16] <Gnea> !usb | Y-DNA
[18:16] <dr_willis> mbeierl:  Hmm.. wonder if there could be some little scratch/curruption on the disk thats hard to see
[18:16] <Gnea> Y-DNA: there, so you don't have to go through scrollback
[18:16] <Y-DNA> up to me... best helping hand in... RIDDLES!!
[18:16] <mbeierl> dr_willis: that's what I would guess
[18:17] <Gnea> Y-DNA: do you read english? it's quite self-explanatory.
[18:17] <mbeierl> dr_willis: it just seems like a weak point in DVD layouts that if the superblock (or whatever) is damaged, the whole disk appears unusable
[18:17] <Y-DNA> you see, from what I am familiar with syslinux needs to be modified in order to be able to boot from USB.
[18:17] <Hypnoz> I'm finding the output of this strange,   RESULT=$(curl "http://www.google.com" -o /dev/null 2>&1 | tail -n1)
[18:17] <Hypnoz> I can't do this against it  FILESIZE=$(echo $RESULT | awk '{print $2}')
[18:18] <Hypnoz> or even if I do echo 123 $RESULT then I don't see the 123
[18:18] <Gnea> Y-DNA: sorry, gf needs me, good luck.
[18:18] <Hypnoz> it's some strange output that I can't work with, like it's not a normal string
[18:18] <SVNDR> I got my sound to start working, but now when i plug my headphone in the sound still plays through the PC Speakers and not the headphone..
[18:18] <dr_willis> Y-DNA:  you can basically download the ubuntu 11.10 iso you want and use 'dd if=theimage.iso of=/dev/sdXX'  for your usb stick.. if thats what you are trying to do..    the syslinux loader on the cd/usb also supports run time options. Hit space when you see the man=keyboard image and theres an options screen.
[18:18] <BangBusRUs> hi I just reinstalled ubuntu for the 5th time and now the trackpad isn't working?
[18:18]  * Y-DNA reads through the links.
[18:18] <BangBusRUs> any ideas?
[18:18] <dr_willis> Y-DNA:  or you can do a normal 'usb live' install if you want to edit the syslinux config files
[18:19] <Hypnoz> BangBusRUs: what version
[18:19] <BangBusRUs> 11.10
[18:19] <BangBusRUs> Lenovo Thinkpad T61
[18:19] <Hypnoz> have you tried something like 11.04?
[18:19] <_jason> BangBusRUs: why is this your 6th time installing?
[18:19] <SVNDR> omg..
[18:20] <tomvolek> Hi, I have a  dyndns setup to reach my router,  How can I forward this to one of several virtual webservers I am running behind the firewall only on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[18:20] <blitz> he has a lot of time on his hands
[18:20] <BangBusRUs> I had everything working, but when i installed thinkfinger tools and rebooted gurb was crupt
[18:20] <libnotify> dr_willis: any way i can view machines connected to my server including their names?
[18:20] <Y-DNA> I wonder when will LiveUSB ISO become default download.
[18:20] <_jason> BangBusRUs: you did that 4 times?
[18:20] <mbeierl> tomvolek: to clarify: your question is how to do configure the router to forward traffic from the internet to your ubuntu server?
[18:21] <BangBusRUs> Nope before it was partitioning problems
[18:21] <Gentoo64> Y-DNA, cd/dvds are the standard for everything still
[18:21] <dr_willis> libnotify:  if they are running samba. you can try smbtree or findsmb. then theres nmap and its 100+ options
[18:21] <Y-DNA> LiveUSB should be omptimized for flash storage and filesystem.
[18:21] <BangBusRUs> last night i had a pretty good working ubuntu
[18:21] <_jason> BangBusRUs: so during the other installs, your trackpad works and now on a fresh install, the trackpad does not work?
[18:22] <BangBusRUs> Yes that is correct sir...
[18:22] <Gentoo64> Y-DNA, its usually only to install though
[18:22] <dr_willis> Y-DNA:  the iso image for 11.10 is allready working as a live-usb-iso Unless you have some differnt specs as to what that vague term means.
[18:22] <_jason> BangBusRUs: nothing was done to this current install other than boot it?
[18:22] <BangBusRUs> Yes
[18:22] <BangBusRUs> just installed now and first login
[18:23] <tomvolek> mbeierl,  I have  a dev box running ubuntu 10.04,  I have severl virtual hosts in apache setup on port 80,  I have also setup a dyndns address for peopel outside to reach my host with a port forwarding on my router.  What I want is the request only goes to one of these virtual hosts .
[18:23] <_jason> BangBusRUs: does the trackpad work at the login screen?
[18:23] <BangBusRUs> I think so
[18:23] <Y-DNA> dr_willis: amma try it
[18:23] <tomvolek> mbeierl  if you like I can explain further on a private channel
[18:23] <_jason> BangBusRUs: try
[18:23] <BangBusRUs> umm no wait i didnt try it. just entered my password and logged in
[18:23] <BangBusRUs> ok
[18:24] <mbeierl> tomvolek: No, please.  Let's keep the discussion in this channel.  I don't know much about virtual hosts
[18:24] <tomvolek> ok tx
[18:25] <mbeierl> tomvolek: I just wanted to clarify if the issue was that portforwarding was not happening in the router.  I can help from the network layer, but web hosting configuration is not something I'm good at
[18:26] <mbeierl> dr_willis: alas, ddrescue thinks it is reading bad blocks from the disk, but the disk is not even spinning.  It seems that once the dvd drive itself decides it cannot read the disk, no further operations will work.
[18:26] <webroasters> hi guys. I want to run a bash script as a cron job. Does anyone know of an example entry for the cron tab?
[18:26] <Y-DNA> how come the nicks dropped on this channel? used to be close to 2000.
[18:26] <tomvolek> portforwarding is happing ... thanks for your reply
[18:26] <dr_willis> mbeierl:  bummer.
[18:26] <_jason> !cron | webroasters
[18:26] <mbeierl> dr_willis: yep.  thanks anyways.
[18:26] <dr_willis> Y-DNA:  on release day ive seen 3000+
[18:27] <lukasz_> he
[18:27] <dr_willis> mbeierl:  but the disk used to work? weird. Not one of those old self-destucting dvd movies they tried to come out with like 5+ yrs ago is it?
[18:27] <webroasters> thanks. lol. I should have read that through once more
[18:27] <mbeierl> Y-DNA: 1500-1600 is about the average I usually see
[18:27] <Y-DNA> ah ok
[18:27] <mbeierl> dr_willis: nope.  it's a two-part disk.  Disk 1 won't load, but disk 2 does.  go figure
[18:28] <mbeierl> dr_willis: I mean, yes it used to work, and no, it's not supposed to be self-destructing
[18:28] <dr_willis> mbeierl: I got a dvd movie once that was upside down.. lable was on the data side. :)
[18:28] <Gentoo64> mbeierl, what is it a game or something?
[18:29] <mbeierl> dr_willis: nice. no, I can confirm this is a movie that used to work
[18:29] <mbeierl> Gentoo64: a movie dvd
[18:31] <Y-DNA> is this what I am looking for?? -> Method 3: Copying the ISO CD image to the USB drive
[18:31] <limeage> mbeierl: Is it possible that  Region was changed in dvd drive?
[18:31] <Gentoo64> Y-DNA, are you just trying to make a bootable usb stick?
[18:32] <Y-DNA> Gentoo64: EXACTLY!!
[18:32] <dr_willis> Y-DNA:  you can basically  use 'dd if=theimage.iso of=/dev/sdXX'  for your usb stick.. if thats what you are trying to do..  for 11.10+
[18:32] <Gentoo64> Y-DNA, all the progs are the same basically, try unetbootin. click "choose iso" then click "make"
[18:32] <dr_willis> actually it would be of=/dev/sdx
[18:33] <dr_willis> Unetbootin and other tools use differnt methods. and let you use extras space on the flash drive for storage.
[18:33] <dr_willis> so they are more prefered
[18:33] <Gentoo64> not just that, if he dont know how to do it the easy way, dd will probbaly confuse him
[18:34] <Y-DNA> I don't have unebootin. You see those two links provided to create a LiveUSB, the steps are LONGER!!! than a full install, :(
[18:35] <Y-DNA> _willis> Y-DNA:  you can basically  use 'dd if=theimage.iso of=/dev/sdXX'  for your usb stick.. if thats what you are
[18:35] <Gentoo64> Y-DNA, most of the progs, you just choose the iso, then click install/make whatever
[18:35] <Gentoo64> then itll make the usbs bootable
[18:36] <Y-DNA>  dr_willis mm.. ok but the image is 700MB and my USB flash drive is 8GB, does this mean that the rest of 7.3 GB will be wasted?
[18:36] <charles_> u
[18:36] <budmang> Hey Guys, I have 3 video cards(one-on board) that work with windows xp just fine(triple monitor setup).... when I format to Ubuntu...I cant see to get them all going(
[18:36] <yumbo> Y-DNA, just partition 2 partitions: 1 1gb and 1 7gb
[18:36] <budmang> http://pastebin.com/UTxYrnVq
[18:36] <Gentoo64> just wipe the usb after its installed anyway
[18:37] <Y-DNA> installing ubuntu is not my goal, but use it as LiveUSB.
[18:37] <sskalnik> Y-DNA:  what ISO are you trying to make into a bootable USB, and do you have Ubuntu installed on your system already?
[18:37] <Gentoo64> whats the point?
[18:38] <yumbo> Y-DNA, then do what I said
[18:38] <Y-DNA> k
[18:39] <bluj> can anyone tell me why my updated Ubuntu 10.04 box only tells me what users it feels like showing, when i use the 'w' command? e.g. sometimes it shows me noone logged in, only myself logged in once (even though i have several connections and other people are on), sometimes it works and displays everyone... etc
[18:39] <mbeierl> limeage: I confirmed in other dvd players,  Disk 1 of 2 in the movie dvd series will not play in any player.  Disk 2 of 2 in the series does.  There is no apparent damage, but like dr_willis suggested, it's probably small enough that I can't see it, but the drives can.
[18:40] <SVNDR> Im dual-booting vista and ubuntu at the moment, im just wondering if there is anyway to use two monitors, one to display ubuntu, and the other to display windows?
[18:40] <Gentoo64> mbeierl, is it an old dvd?
[18:40] <Gentoo64> maybe it got exposed to something
[18:40] <Y-DNA> ha ha, this is great, my brand new USB drive is pre-loaded with spyware --> autorun.inf  club_application  RunClubSanDisk.exe  RunSanDiskSecureAccess_Win.exe  SanDiskSecureAccess
[18:41] <Gentoo64> Y-DNA, why is thst spyware?
[18:41] <Gentoo64> or do you mean just crap
[18:41] <Y-DNA> do I have to wipe out the partition in order to do this? 'dd if=theimage.iso of=/dev/sdXX'
[18:41] <yumbo> Y-DNA, I use unetbootin myself
[18:41] <yumbo> (on windows)
[18:42] <Y-DNA> i'll try if sysrescuecd can install unetbootin
[18:42] <limeage> Y-DNA: no,  dd will wipe it
[18:42] <yumbo> on what OS are you atm?
[18:43] <limeage> Y-DNA:  but i suggest  to use unetbootin,  I just imagine  that later you will  face with
[18:44] <Y-DNA> yumbo: lol, unetbootin is not an option here. I am trying to create a LiveUSB off a minimal Live distro.
[18:44] <limeage> Y-DNA: "recover my USB stick"
[18:44] <Gentoo64> Y-DNA, if you have internet you can install stuff
[18:45] <Y-DNA> yumbo: LiveUSB sysrescuecd.
[18:45] <Gentoo64> e.g unetbootin
[18:45] <Gentoo64> dont that come with unetbooting already on it/
[18:45] <Y-DNA> nope :( [ebuild  N     ] sys-boot/unetbootin-563
[18:45] <SVNDR> Im dual-booting vista and ubuntu at the moment, im just wondering if there is anyway to use two monitors, one to display ubuntu, and the other to display windows?
[18:46] <Gentoo64> Y-DNA, install it then :s
[18:46] <Y-DNA> SVNDR: the ways are several.
[18:47] <chabie> i have any problem with my ubuntu 11.10
[18:47] <SVNDR> Y-DNA: got any tutorials handy? lol
[18:47] <Gentoo64> SVNDR, no because they dont boot together
[18:47] <chabie> i cant play PES 2011 on my ubuntu
[18:47] <Gentoo64> chabie, maybe its a windows program
[18:47] <Y-DNA> Gentoo64: what about Xen, kvm, virtualbox??
[18:47] <Gentoo64> :)
[18:48] <openvoid> SVNDR, you want to dispaly windows in one monitor and linux in other simultaneously ? great idea but i don't thinkmits possible wiout two computers
[18:48] <Gentoo64> Y-DNA, yeah ofc but that wouldnt be using his dual boot
[18:48] <chabie> yes i know that..
[18:48] <yumbo> SVNDR, the only way to do that is to install Windows in a virtual machine in Ubuntu (or vice versa)
[18:48] <Gentoo64> chabie, in wine?
[18:48] <Gentoo64> no idea
[18:48] <yumbo> SVNDR, you cant do it with dualbooting
[18:48] <chabie> yes i has do it..
[18:48] <chabie> but still cant play..
[18:48] <SVNDR> openvoid, yumbo: alright thanks
[18:48] <Y-DNA> it's perfectly feasible to run linux and m$$$ side by side, I myself have run m$$ xp, vi$ta, 7 simultaneously inside linux.
[18:49] <yumbo> Y-DNA, M$ is so 20th century :/
[18:49] <shades> hey guys php puts it's error logs in a different place in ubuntu, does anyone know where that is?
[18:49] <chabie> are have a tutorial about that??
[18:50] <Gentoo64> chabie, about the game not working?
[18:50] <markdaws> hi - when using apt-get to install a package, is there some way to show what files get copied and their destination files.  I have a package and want to know where it is installing to.  Thanks
[18:50] <BangBusRUs> hi im trying to mount my external hdd and got this error http://pastebin.com/2b2tFMYU
[18:50] <chabie> yes..
[18:50] <Y-DNA> yumbo: totally agree with you, m$$ ain't innovating anymore.
[18:50] <Gentoo64> chabie, try in #winehq
[18:50] <yumbo> Y-DNA, I was referring to the way you wrote it ofcourse
[18:50] <chabie> can i ask the link about winehq
[18:51] <chabie> i try on wine 1.3
[18:51] <Gentoo64> chabie, it got gold rating so it should work, try joining the wine channel
[18:51] <yumbo> BangBusRUs, did you do what the error asked you to do?
[18:51] <BangBusRUs> no i dont have windows installed
[18:52] <spaceneedle> My terminal typography isn't working properly. The letters are slightly jumbled together.
[18:52] <yumbo> BangBusRUs, you can use GParted to check a NTFS drive too
[18:53] <yumbo> spaceneedle, go to Preferences and select a new font
[18:53] <BangBusRUs> how do you mean check it
[18:53] <BangBusRUs> check it in what way?
[18:53] <yumbo> BangBusRUs, install GParted
[18:53] <BangBusRUs> check for what exatllly?
[18:53] <Y-DNA> yumbo: actually, the way I wrote it transcends time and space
[18:53] <Gentoo64> spaceneedle, use a monospace font
[18:53] <BangBusRUs> ok
[18:53] <yumbo> BangBusRUs, then you can see your external drive listed there, then you can right click it and check for errors
[18:53] <BangBusRUs> ok
[18:54] <BangBusRUs> willl doo
[18:55] <spaceneedle> monospace worked.wonder why dingbats didn't?
[18:55] <Y-DNA> mm... I see, so technically a LiveCD and a LiveUSB differ in terms of filesystem. For instance a CD/DVD can't have a filesystem whereas flash  storage does. Therefore the entire design of a LiveUSB image would be incompatible with a CD/DVD iso image. Right?
[18:56] <inttosh> how to delete a recently added repository
[18:56] <chabie> not person that still live on #winehq..
[18:56] <limeage> markdaws:  dpkg -L <package_name>
[18:56] <kasii> hi all
[18:57] <Gentoo64> chabie, you might need to wait, dont forget #ubuntu is one of the busiest on here
[18:57] <chabie> yes that..
[18:57] <xangua> inttosh: if you mean a PPA: sudo ppa-purge "ppaname"
[18:57] <xangua> it will remove all packages from the ppa and disable it
[18:57] <yumbo> Y-DNA, new versions of ubuntu have compability for usb-sticks
[18:57] <limeage> markdaws: but it will not show what was done by preinstall and postinstall scripts
[18:58] <yumbo> inttosh, you can open "Software sources" and remove it
[18:58] <inttosh> xangua, i am experiencing loads of ppa errors while update
[18:58] <aashez> I have data on a remote system whose backup I would like to take using dd piped to bzip2. But the remote system is old with low prcessing power for compression (and probably dd too). Is it possible to run the command from my end and use my system processing power for the task?
[18:58] <Y-DNA> this is interesting that this problem hasn't bee addressed yet. LiveUSB could usher new ways of using a LiveOS. Not even puppy linux, arguably the most advanced Live distro out there, DOES NOT have  straight way of installing to usb by passing the CD/DVD step.
[18:58] <yumbo> lol
[18:58] <karol_> Can anyone help me with choosing ram memory. I have dell gx280 computer with two pc2-3200U-333-10-c1 rams (256 mb each). Will this one: http://www.hoacomputer.com/files/Ram_Kingston512.jpg be OK?
[18:59] <Gentoo64> karol_, if its the same voltage and type it will
[18:59] <Y-DNA> yumbo: I will see after 2 hours (time to complete download)
[18:59] <yumbo> Y-DNA, takes 1 minute to download here :s
[19:00] <inttosh> yumbo, ppa-purge command not found
[19:00] <Y-DNA> karol_: hey sweety, I'll gladly help you any whichever way you are more comfortable with ;)
[19:00] <yumbo> inttosh, I did not tell you to do ppa-purge
[19:00] <Gentoo64> inttosh, i think you can just remove the ppa line from etc apt source.lst
[19:00] <yumbo> inttosh, I told you to open "Software sources" and remove the repository
[19:00] <inttosh> ok
[19:01] <mbeierl> inttosh: ppa-purge is a package from the universe repositories and needs to be installed if you want to use it
[19:01] <markdaws> limeage: thanks
[19:01] <inttosh> thanks
[19:01] <Y-DNA> karol_: however that's not a ubuntu question your best bet is #hardware
[19:02] <mbeierl> !ppa-purge
[19:02] <karol_> Y-DNA: OK, I'll ask there
[19:03] <flux242> hi, is there a simpler way to display subdirectories sizes in bash than that - 'for i in ./* do du -sh $i; done'
[19:03] <Jordan_U> Y-DNA: dr_willis: If you just want to dd the Ubuntu image to a drive and have it be bootable, it needs to be dd'd to the drive, not to a partition. So that would be "dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX" (note 'sdX' and *not* 'sdXX', so something like 'sdb').
[19:04] <llutz> flux242: du -h --max-depth=1 /
[19:04] <Jordan_U> Y-DNA: And that command will overwrite any data currently on the drive, so be carefull.
[19:05] <elricl> Anyone help with http://askubuntu.com/questions/92797/how-to-fix-the-bold-font-rendering-issue-with-gnome-terminal?
[19:05] <Y-DNA>  Jordan_U that's completely fine because this is a brand new usb flash.
[19:06]  * Y-DNA goes for some invigorating fermented grape juice.
[19:07] <JetJaguarXP> Anyone know where I can get a copy of ISO 12207?
[19:07] <Y-DNA> dafok is "ISO 12207"???
[19:08] <kruncher> Hello. My Ubuntu box has been randomly shutting down (hard-shutdown). What logs should I check for more information?
[19:08] <sskalnik> JetJaguarXP:  first link on Google
[19:08] <Gentoo64> JetJaguarXP: just google for a pdf or something
[19:08] <JetJaguarXP> without having to pay 250 bucks?
[19:09] <h00k> !piracy | JetJaguarXP
[19:09] <JetJaguarXP> Yikes!  Piracy?
[19:09] <Gentoo64> kruncher: maybe its the psu
[19:09] <sskalnik> JetJaguarXP:  First link on Google
[19:10] <kruncher> Gentoo64: It could certainly be hardware related, but it is a production server and I'd like to be able to scan the logs for more info before downing the server to investigate hardware.
[19:10] <JetJaguarXP> Well, thanks anyway...
[19:12] <kruncher> I'm just not sure where I would find any logs on the machine for more information. I'd assume they would be somewhere in /var.
[19:12] <maheanuu> Could anyone please help me in getting my cd/dvd rom to be recognized and mounted.  It failed on New Years Day and I have no idea why, I had used it on NY's eve with no problem now I can see it in Places Computer but cannot use it at all
[19:13] <maheanuu> It is showing in System disk utility as /dev/sr0 but cannot mount or get any info from anything tghere
[19:14] <sskalnik> kruncher:  /var/log should do it
[19:14] <sskalnik> syslog and kernel log are in there
[19:14] <akpk> gvfs permission denied root
[19:14] <akpk>  `./.gvfs': Permission denied
[19:14] <akpk> What to do ??
[19:15] <kruncher> sskalnik: thanks. I will begin looking there.
[19:15] <sskalnik> akpk:  sudo
[19:15] <akpk> No.its not working.
[19:15] <sskalnik> Sudo does not work?
[19:16] <akpk> root@AKPK:/home/arun# sudo find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[19:16] <akpk> find: `./.gvfs': Permission denied
[19:16] <llutz> akpk: ~/.gvfs is a special dir, used  by GVFS
[19:16] <llutz> akpk: don#t mess with the permissions, user should be able to access
[19:16] <sskalnik> I don't think you are supposed to mess with that
[19:17] <llutz> akpk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS
[19:17] <akpk> chmod 666  ???
[19:18] <llutz> akpk: DON'T change permissions on ~/.gfvs
[19:18] <llutz> gvfs
[19:19] <sskalnik> akpk, what exactly are you trying to do with .gvfs, and why?
[19:19] <Ronnie> im trying to make an upstart script for service i need to runs, but somehow i cant get it to work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/793007/
 I am installing Kohana,PHP framework.
[19:20] <akpk> simplt following the instructions.
[19:20] <sskalnik> akpk:  I would question those instructions
[19:21] <akpk> :-P
[19:21] <llutz> akpk: why does a php-framework need to change/access ~/.gvfs?
[19:21] <akpk> sskalnik : If you are using a unix-like system, the installation’s subdirs may have lost their permissions during zip extraction. Chmod them all to 755 by running find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; from the root of your Kohana installation.
[19:22] <akpk> instruction from the documentation,
[19:22] <akpk> when i typed this i got that error message
[19:22] <GeForce88>  so if i want to say make a desktop icon for an attached device, wheree is the setting? i used to have it pop right up, but now with unity it's become a rather difficult task
[19:22] <sskalnik> akpk:  what directory are you in when you run that command?
[19:22] <llutz> akpk: you made your $HOME the installation-dir for that framework?
[19:23] <sskalnik> It looks like you need to chmod the installation directory, but you are trying to chmod something entirely different..
[19:23] <akpk> /opt/lampp/htdcos
[19:24] <llutz> akpk: "running find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; from the root of your Kohana installation"  does NOT mean to run it from your home-dir
[19:24] <oCean> akpk: apparently there's a ppa for stable releases also: https://launchpad.net/~kohana/+archive/stable
 : Thank you.
[19:24] <coleix> guys how do i take ownership of a folder that has root rights only, i installed a program and by mistake used sudo now i can't run it.
[19:24] <llutz> akpk: find /opt/lampp/htdcos -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;
[19:24] <akpk> It worked.
 : <llutz> : Thank you
[19:25] <priXon> hello
[19:25] <Gentoo64> coleix: sudo chown -R username /folder
[19:25] <jftsang> Hello, I'm on Ubuntu 11.10 on a Samsung NC10. Not only am I suffering from the screen brightness flicker problem, but I seem also to be forced to either max or min brightness
[19:25] <sskalnik> akpk:  No prob
[19:25] <jftsang> If I try to change the brightness to something in the middle, the brightness just goes straight up to the top.
[19:26] <priXon> I read about transforming ubuntu to xubuntu or lubuntu, and I was wondering if ubuntu + 'xubuntu-desktop' will perform exactly as xubuntu's installation on a pc/latop?
[19:26] <Gentoo64> priXon: it should do
[19:26] <akpk> sudo chmod 666 /opt/lampp/htdocs/kohana/application/logs
[19:27] <akpk> is not working ??
[19:27] <_jason> akpk: why are you using lampp?
[19:27] <coleix> thanks Gentoo64
[19:27] <llutz> !permissions| akpk:
[19:27] <akpk> I am using xampp
[19:27] <_jason> akpk: ok, why are you using xampp?
[19:27] <llutz> akpk: you want to set executable-bit on dirs
[19:27] <bismay> hiiii
[19:28] <priXon> and can I install on this xubuntu everything there is to install on ubuntu and it will work?
[19:28] <Gentoo64> priXon: yes
[19:28] <akpk> chmod 666,but dat folder is still not writable.
[19:28] <llutz> akpk: you want to set executable-bit on dirs
[19:28] <_jason> akpk: my advice is to not use xampp; use apache from ubuntu's repositories
[19:28] <akpk> lluts : hm,Okay.
[19:29] <bluezone> akpk: If you're not worried about security you can also try chmod +777 if i'm not mistaken, also you may want to right click on it properties/permissions allow execution
[19:29] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: what about visa versa of what priXon said..?
,Ya 777 is working.
[19:30] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: you can install any apps, on any ubuntu
[19:30] <llutz> 777 is a bad idea in most cases
[19:30] <BangBusRUs> Ok so I checked with GParted
[19:30] <priXon> Gentoo64, can you assume how faster will a netbook a transformed xubuntu /lubuntu run compared to unity ubuntu?
[19:30] <akpk> (But this documentation want me to try 666)
[19:30] <BangBusRUs> It says its unallocated
[19:30] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: so the name difference dont mean much, app wise?
[19:30] <Gentoo64> priXon: much snappier
[19:30] <Gentoo64> priXon: itll use less ram as well
[19:30] <bluezone> llutz, sure but at least it works, it isn't really important if security isn't an issue imo
[19:30] <BangBusRUs> Umm who was helping me before?
[19:31] <AmberJ> Hello
[19:31] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: no its just the desktop default environment. if you put lxde on, most people would stick to lighter apps rather than some gnome app pulling in most of gnome deps
[19:31] <llutz> bluezone: 777 is a bad idea in most cases and "it works" is the most stupid reason to use it
[19:31] <bluezone> llutz, please explain why it is a bad idea
[19:31] <BangBusRUs> Who was helping me before please reply
[19:32] <llutz> bluezone: you don't want world-writable directories
[19:32] <AmberJ> Youtube, metacafe etc work very well in CHROME on my PC...except one site streaming videos in flash player
[19:32] <priXon> the thing is, that with ubuntu on a netbook, you sometime have to wait a second or two until firefox/chromium opens. and for libreoffice, maybe some 5-10-15 seconds
[19:32] <AmberJ> Anyone having chrome installed?
[19:32] <BangBusRUs> I do
[19:32] <llutz> bluezone: you don't want a webserver have write-access to all files
[19:32] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: alright makes sence.. and whats this talk about xubuntu running faster on netbooks? ubuntus burning my CPU practically, do you recon xubuntu might help?
[19:32] <BangBusRUs> amberj
[19:32] <AmberJ> I just need someone to check if they can get flash player to load for one site...
[19:32] <bluezone> llutz, that's exactly what i mean, if security isn't an issue for him then that is irrelevant
[19:32] <BangBusRUs> what one
[19:32] <llutz> bluezone: even on home-computers, if you do it, do it right
[19:32] <Morpheme> bluezone, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_privilege
[19:33] <BangBusRUs> What site Amberj
[19:33] <llutz> bluezone: still stupid reason. security always matters
[19:33] <priXon> I don't understand how come there is a difference in loading the softwares if the core is the same. Gentoo64, can you explain that?
[19:33] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: priXon: try it. xubuntu probably wont help much in terms of cpu or app load times but it might on a slower comp
[19:33] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, http://tinyurl.com/6pr3m8t
[19:33] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, Chrome on ubuntu...
[19:33] <bluezone> llutz, not to me :)
[19:33] <Gentoo64> priXon: because gnome is larger, and takes mroe ram and cpu
[19:33] <BangBusRUs> lmao why is it tinyurl
[19:33] <xangua> priXon: because those apps you mentioned are heavier on resource usage
[19:34] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, Long URL....
[19:34] <llutz> bluezone: ok, but don't recommend it to other users here, pls
[19:34] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: alright, nothing loads slow so much, its just the over heating CPU, been reading it might be the kernel
[19:34] <bluezone> fine :(
[19:34] <BangBusRUs> its okay just post the site
[19:34] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, http://classx.stanford.edu/ClassX/system/users/web/pg/view_presentation.php?subject=CS229_FALL_2011_2012&session=Lecture%2002&runtime=Flash&devClass=1
[19:35] <priXon> so you would advice using xubuntu/lubuntu only if I see that I'm usually using almost all of my RAM? and if not, then one can use ubuntu-unity?
[19:35] <GeForce88> does unity in 11.10 provide for making desktop icons, or is that somethign we're gonna have to wait for 12.04 for ?
[19:35] <imi> hi
[19:35] <BangBusRUs> nope it does not load up
[19:35] <Gentoo64> priXon, the lighter ones just are snappier, less to go wrong, less ram and cpu, less disk space
[19:36] <maheanuu> Ubuntu 10.10 not recognizing my CD Rom??????
[19:36] <imi> I switched off auto save settings in mc, however when I quit it saves other_dir in panels.ini
[19:36] <imi> how can I switch off this behaviour?
[19:36] <imark> GeForce88: i think you have to make your own theres no tool for it
[19:36] <AmberJ> Thanks for confirming, BangBusRUs. I can now report it to site admins :)
  <_jason> <bluezone> <ubottu>  <sskalnik> Thank you very much !!
[19:36] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, Do you get "missing plugin"?
[19:37] <GeForce88> imark : gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop
[19:37] <priXon> can you define what you mean by "snappier"? english isn't my native language so I don't get all the connotation right
[19:37] <akpk> Everything installed .
[19:37] <BangBusRUs> Its cool amberj, oh btw wanna go for a ride?
[19:37] <GeForce88> so yea there is a tool, but, there should be drag and drop support...?
[19:37] <akpk> Its Working smoothly.
[19:37] <xangua> AmberJ: BangBusRUsworks fine to me on firefox
[19:37] <Gentoo64> priXon, opening windows / switching etc is all faster
[19:37] <maheanuu> I have been waiting and asking and waiting since New Years and so far no one has even offered any idea...  Am I the only person in Ubuntu to have had this problem
[19:37] <Gentoo64> priXon, theres less delays etc
[19:37] <GeForce88> maheanuu, sounds like your cd/dvd rom is bad or disconnected
[19:38] <Gentoo64> GeForce88, afaik gnome 3 dont really support using the desktop for icons
[19:38] <priXon> Gentoo64, you said loading time will stay the same. what is opening windows if not loading times of softwares?
[19:38] <AmberJ> xangua, BangBusRUs It works fine for me in firefox/chromium. Flash videos from youtube, metacafe etc also work fine in Chrome....It's just chrome+classX combo which doesnot works..
[19:38] <Morpheme> bluezone, if you don't matter about security give me a free ssh access to your pc
[19:38] <bluezone> Morpheme, that's different
[19:38] <Gentoo64> priXon, loading times might be faster, depends on the comp
[19:38] <AmberJ> BangBusRUs, ride on IRC? heh...Do you mean something like /join ride? ;)
[19:38] <GeForce88> gentoo64, imho, would it not benefit the disrto to be more 'user friendly' ? some of us prefer desktop icons.
[19:39] <Morpheme> bluezone, different? why?
[19:39] <bluezone> Morpheme, i was talking in context with file permissions
[19:39] <CaptainFixer> maheanuu have you tried a different cd drive and or cable?
[19:39] <bluezone> Morpheme, that's why ^.^
[19:39] <imark> GeForce88: i live and learn
[19:39] <tesuji> hello
[19:39] <maheanuu> GeForce88, it has worke all along and I see it in Places Computer and also in System administration Disk utility but it cannot be mounted  or ejected
[19:39] <BangBusRUs> No I mean ride on the BangBus?
[19:39] <bluezone> Morpheme, besides i wouldn't even give you ssh i would give you ftp rofl
[19:39] <GeForce88> imark : i'm just used to icons. drag and drop is a nice addition
[19:40] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: sorry keyboard froze
[19:40] <priXon> Gentoo64, by the way, thanks for your answers
[19:40] <maheanuu> It isn't the CDROM, I installed another one out of another notebook and it is the same
[19:40] <GeForce88> maheanuu,  then it is bad. or, you have something jamming the mechanics of hte drive
[19:40] <rapstero> is it possible to install and run oident or similar software without root?
[19:40] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: gnome2 had desktop icons, all the other des still have them
[19:40] <Morpheme> bluezone, lol, i don't need it, thanks anyway :D
[19:41] <GeForce88> Gentoo64, do you know of plans to fix this in 12.04 ?
[19:41] <maheanuu> No, I get like a single speed run when I try to burn then if dies  and the drive works fine in another notebook
[19:41] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: no
[19:41] <maheanuu> the other notebook has windoze on it not Ubuntu
[19:41] <GeForce88> Gentoo64,  defeats the purpose of the desktop, don't it ?
[19:41] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: i dont like it so i dont use it
[19:41] <tesuji> hello! where can I ask newbie-like questions?
[19:41] <Gentoo64> lol
[19:41] <Gentoo64> tesuji: here
[19:41] <bluezone> tesuji, here
[19:41] <GeForce88> Gentoo64, fair enough. thx.
[19:42] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: try the more plain desktops if you really want it easy
[19:42] <chris_is_me> maheanuu: have you tryed booting from a cd to see if it works
[19:42] <priXon> if you're talking about drag and drop, can anyone predict if/when one will be able to drag and drop while using alt+tab?
[19:43] <maheanuu> chris_is  No, I will do that now and brb
[19:43] <imi> priXon: you can drag it to the tray, and when the window shows up continue to drag into it
[19:43] <chris_is_me> maheanuu: good luck
[19:44] <tesuji> I just installed Zorin OS 5.2 core, and install all updates, but in Chrome java is not working.
[19:44] <GeForce88> Gentoo64, there's always: gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop :: ;)
[19:44] <xangua> tesuji: ask on ther channel/forum
[19:44] <priXon> yeah, but sometime it's not as efficient as doing it with alt+tab
[19:44] <Gentoo64> tesuji: dno what that is, but its not supported
[19:44] <_jason> tesuji: this is #ubuntu
[19:45] <Gentoo64> GeForce88: its possible to get desktop icons, but its not exactly simple, or default
[19:45] <tesuji> ok sorry
[19:45] <samael_> hyia guy
[19:46] <Dukes> hi , i try to install ubuntu server on my machine from a usb sticker and i can't continue instalation because the cdrom is missing. There is any chance to bypass cdrom check ?
[19:46] <SVNDR> is GEDIT the eqivelant to notepad from windows??
[19:47] <tidux> SVNDR: it's much better than notepad
[19:47] <GeForce88> pico ftw
[19:47] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: leafpad is mroe like notepad
[19:47] <lalagirl> SVNDR similar
[19:47] <Gentoo64> id say gedit is more like "wordpad"
[19:47] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: im gonna try that then
[19:47] <Gentoo64> lol
[19:47] <priXon> so you don't think ubuntu/linux will ever add the function of drag/drop while alt+tabbing?
[19:47] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: yea thats what i was just thinking lol
[19:48] <samael_> ?
[19:48] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: but as you already have gedit, why not just use it?
[19:48] <GeForce88> priXon,  google says this will be fixed with 12.04
[19:48] <Gentoo64> you can minimize the view in the options
[19:48] <_jason> priXon: it will get added when someone writes it (like everything else) :)
[19:49] <SVNDR> Gentoo64: dont ask me why, but even on windows i never liked wordpad (for simple things like a quick copy/paste then delete, i always used notepad.. haha just preference i guess
[19:49] <SVNDR> leafpad has a nicer icon too
[19:49] <warfaren> ofcourse. notepad loads up way faster than wordpad and has a much cleaner interface
[19:49] <jandro> Since my remote server only has SSH port open, I am using the parameter -L 31031:localhost:80 so that I can access apache on the remote end. My problem is that when installing wordpress the "Host address" was set to "localhost:31031" and now I can connect to apache's welcome page, but not to Wordpress when I type "http://localhost:31031/wordpress" since apparently it is listening on 31031, but that's just Worpress, apache's still listening on port 80. I tri
[19:49] <jandro> setting apache to listen to 31031 although it didn't work. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong/should do to get back to wordpress and change it? Hope I made some sense there... cheers
[19:50] <tidux> hey guys, I'm a former Ubuntu user (8.04 was my first Linux) thinking about coming back after distro-hopping and a year or so of Debian Testing
[19:50] <Gentoo64> SVNDR: yeah leafpad is very nice for a quick editor
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> tidux  welcome back then
[19:50] <tidux> is there anything I should watch out for as different from Debian?
[19:50] <tidux> I know Unity's different
[19:50] <tidux> but does it still use sysvinit and /bin/dash?
[19:50] <Gentoo64> tidux: afaik its basivally the same
[19:50] <tidux> yeah, update-alternatives, APT, dpkg, etc. are all there
[19:51] <Gentoo64> tidux: i suppsoe youll learn the little changes as you go
[19:51] <_jason> tidux: ubuntu uses upstart (but sysvinit scripts still get called) and ubuntu uses dash as sh by default
[19:51] <tidux> alright, cool
[19:51] <tidux> thanks _jason
[19:52] <llutz> _jason: debian uses dash aswell since a while
[19:52] <tidux> yeah
[19:52] <tidux> dash = Debianized Almquist SHell
[19:52] <tidux> it really is much faster than bash in sh-mode for stuff like init scripts
[19:53] <tidux> and it can still do functions, etcl
[19:53] <tidux> *etc.
[19:53] <tesuji> ok, sorry again, but does anyone know any Zorin OS channel? Thanks!
[19:53] <tidux> tesuji: tried #zorinos ?
[19:53] <_jason> tidux: go to zorin os website, help, irc
[19:53] <Dukes> does anybody know why ubuntu requires a cdrom since is installed from a bootable usb sticker ?
[19:53] <llutz> !alis | tesuji
[19:53] <Gentoo64> Dukes: it shouldnt..
[19:54] <tidux> alright, off I go
[19:54] <groovehunter> hi pls how to start gnome-disk-utility on cli?
[19:54] <tesuji> thanks!!
[19:54] <groovehunter> there is no bin
[19:54] <Gentoo64> groovehunter: palimpsest
[19:54] <xangua> Dukes: is Ubuntu Cd marked as repository on Software Sources¿
[19:54] <Gentoo64> i think
[19:54] <Dukes> Gentoo64 : it does ... my dvdrom is dead and i want to install ubuntu via usb sticker
[19:54] <groovehunter> thx Gentoo64
[19:54] <Gentoo64> groovehunter: i probably typoed that
[19:54] <groovehunter> btw what's the name from?
[19:55] <groovehunter> correct typed :)
[19:55] <Gentoo64> no idea what the command name means :s
[19:56] <angel> olaa
[19:56] <Gentoo64> list?
[20:00] <Glitchd> can anyone help me figure out if my server is reachable from an outside network?
[20:01] <Dukes> is there any chance to install ubuntu with wibi and to delete windows instalation to remain with ubuntu only ?
[20:01] <xangua> Dukes: no
[20:01] <Glitchd> Dukes, no, because your installing ubuntu as a program almost inside windows
[20:02] <Glitchd> Dukes, why not just install it to the computer then delete the partition that windows is located on?
[20:02] <Glitchd> Dukes, or delete the windows parition when installing ubuntu?
[20:03] <priXon> one more question. I read in wikipedia that xubuntu had problems and it didn't achieve its goals regarding lower RAM use. Is it still problematic? should one install lubuntu instead of xubuntu? they also write that a test carried by distrowatch found that lubuntu uses half the RAM ubuntu/xubuntu uses. so if xubuntu uses as much RAM as ubuntu uses, why use it?
[20:03] <Dukes> Glitchd: my dvdrom is dead .. i cant use it anymore
[20:04] <sskalnik> priXon:  Yeah, go with Lubuntu if you are tight on resources
[20:04] <Dukes> i have made a usb sticker bootable but when i install is asking me for cdrom
[20:04] <Glitchd> Dukes, so download the usb installer application and a ubuntu iso and use the application to put ubuntu onto a usb then install from that.
[20:04] <sskalnik> priXon:  I say this though I use Xubuntu for largely aesthetic reasons
[20:05] <priXon> in fact, I want to help a friend that has a notebook and wants something faster then his windows7. I installed ubuntu on his notebook, but it is slower than windows7
[20:05] <SVNDR> I was doing updates just now (about 300 of then) and my charger unplugged itself, the window prompted me saying its safer to do it with a charger plugged in.. i plugged it back in and now its just stuck on a black, opaque screen..
[20:05] <SVNDR> would it be same to restart?
[20:06] <priXon> yeah, the xubuntu desktop looks nicer. that's why I hoped xubuntu will fit him
[20:06] <sskalnik> priXon:  I would go with Lubuntu if he is seeing performance issues.
[20:06] <maheanuu> chris_is_me,  I cannot boot from a Ubuntu disk, but I went into /dev and this is what I see, not that I can make any sense of it, but I do see the cdrom and also /sr0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/793064/
[20:07] <priXon> is unity that heavy that it slowers the notebook more than windows7?!
[20:07] <aashez> I have data on a remote system whose backup I would like to take using dd piped to bzip2. But the remote system is old with low prcessing power for compression (and probably dd too). Is it possible to run the command from my end and use my system processing power for the task?
[20:07] <maheanuu> My major problem other than being older than dirt is I am more dangerous than a gallon of Nitro
[20:07] <Dukes> Glitchd: that is the way i used to make the bootable sticker
[20:07] <bluezone> priXon, probably... i don't like it, you can switch back to gnome if you like :)
[20:07] <Dukes> i followed the tutorial from ubuntu website
[20:07] <Glitchd> Dukes, bootable sticker?
[20:08] <Dukes> yes
[20:08] <sskalnik> priXon:  I imagine something else is going on; ubuntu is typically at least as snappy, if not faster, than Win7 with Aero and all that.
[20:08] <Glitchd> what do u mean by that?
[20:08] <Dukes> i made it with Universal USB installer
[20:08] <sskalnik> Glitchd:  he means a USB stick
[20:08] <Glitchd> Dukes, why do u want to delete windows tho?
[20:08] <engammalsko> How do I remove grub (I'm on the live CD).
[20:08] <chicoalicante2> #frikiinternet
[20:08] <Glitchd> sskalnik, gotcha..thx
[20:08] <Dukes> i got sick of windows :)
[20:08] <jxshxx> (make mine a) Happy New Year!  Lucid won't boot.  Help! http://pastebin.com/J3XHemJe
[20:08] <engammalsko> I have removed Linux without removing grub.
[20:09] <Glitchd> engammalsko, one way would be to boot into the recovery console of windows
[20:09] <priXon> what else could cause ubuntu to be slower than windows7? it's relatively a brand new notebook (bought half a year ago)
[20:09] <engammalsko> Glitchd: How do I do that?
[20:09] <engammalsko> Glitchd: I booted the install CD but found no recovery mode.
[20:09] <sskalnik> priXon:  What sorts of things are slower?
[20:09] <Glitchd> engammalsko, hold on ill find u a link
[20:10] <Glitchd> engammalsko, what version of windows?
[20:10] <engammalsko> Btw Windows 7
[20:10] <Glitchd> kk
[20:10] <engammalsko> Glitchd: 7
[20:10] <priXon> sometimes the dash gets stuck. loading softwares is a bit slow
[20:10] <Glitchd> engammalsko, do u have the windows 7 cd?
[20:10] <Glitchd> /dvd
[20:11] <engammalsko> Glitchd: yeah.
[20:11] <Glitchd> ok
[20:11] <Glitchd> http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-support/34709-how-remove-grub-loader-get-windows-7-boot-loader-back-uninstalling-linux.html
[20:12] <subone> How do I add an icon to an application I've pinned to the Unity siebar?
[20:13] <acidfrost> priXon, try turning off eye candy
[20:15] <reCAPTCHA> Hi all... can ubuntu be dual-booted with OSX on a MacBook?
[20:15] <_jason> reCAPTCHA: yes
[20:15] <_jason> !mac | reCAPTCHA
[20:15] <Glitchd> reCAPTCHA, yup
[20:15] <priXon> how can I turn off eye candy on 11.10?
[20:15] <BussDriver> yes, but it's an excruciating experience.
[20:15] <_jason> BussDriver: how so?
[20:15] <Glitchd> priXon, google....lol
[20:15] <Glitchd> priXon, jk
[20:15] <maheanuu> Is there anyway to do a clean up and get rid of all the crap odds and ends that apparently get left behind after the upgrades..  I boot and have 6 Skypes popping up and now my cdrom is not working and i would like very much to have this puter back to 10.04 time where it ran like a swiss watch instead of running like windoze 3.5
[20:16] <Glitchd> ^like
[20:16] <BussDriver> _jason: In my experience with 11.04 on a latest generation macbook pro, very little worked
[20:16] <BussDriver> and battery life was about 1/8th what it was in OSX or windows 7
[20:16] <BussDriver> the touchpad was completely unusable because you couldn't right click
[20:16] <maheanuu> On my Toshiba Satellite 64 bit it ran like a gazelle
[20:17] <Dynamit> I have no problem with Ubuntu on my laptop
[20:17] <BussDriver> it's a mac?
[20:17] <Dynamit> no PC
[20:17] <BussDriver> right, i love ubuntu 11.10 on my dell
[20:17] <BussDriver> but on that mac, it was abysmall.
[20:18] <BussDriver> er, abysmal
[20:18] <_jason> BussDriver: well I can say I have no problem with ubuntu on my macbook but it's 4,1
[20:18] <BussDriver> this was a 6,1 I believe
[20:18] <maheanuu> Dynamit, at present even my tab key will not complete the names
[20:18] <Raliegh> So... Ubuntu is slow on updating their packages. Apache2 needs upgrading... What do I do?
[20:18] <_jason> !sru | Raliegh
[20:19] <Raliegh> Okay that totally doesn't help.
[20:19] <Raliegh> In the slightest.
[20:19] <Dynamit> i have a small problem with my laptop it my hdmi port don't work to 100% nvidia detect the tv and the name and say it send the signal but the tv don't detect a input signal
[20:19] <_jason> Raliegh: do you understand how/why/when updates happen on a stable release in ubuntu?
[20:20] <Dynamit> but on one of the older Ubuntu i have in this computer the hdmi port have work so it's driver problem to 99%
[20:20] <Raliegh> I don't really care, no offense. The thing is Apache2 is outdated (by .4, apparently a slowloris fix was introduced) and I need to install it.
[20:20] <Matrixiumn> bye
[20:21] <_jason> Raliegh: of course you care.  It's what you are asking about.
[20:21] <raven> 11.10 why lmms depends on wine1.2 ??
[20:21] <Raliegh> No, I'm asking how to properly upgrade it, not why it isn't updated in the main repository.
[20:21] <maheanuu> Is it possible to reinstall 10.10 over the top of the 10.10 I now have installed?
[20:21] <idefix> !FS
[20:22] <_jason> Raliegh: maybe it is patched for your issue.
[20:22] <priXon> btw, maybe someone here can help me with my problem.
[20:22] <priXon> few months ago the visual effects stopped working for me. I read on the internet that it's related to an update on xorg or something like that, and since then nothing has changed. although other people wrote that the new xorg packages fixed their problems. I tried tweaking my things related to the ati video card but nothing happend. and also if I log out I get a black screen and can't choose to log in, although if i press "backspace" I h
[20:22] <priXon> ear some sounds - meaning I'm inside the box where I usually type the password when doing a log in. what might be the cause of that, and how can I fix it?
[20:22] <_jason> Raliegh: the link you don't want to read explains that ubuntu will patch security issues
[20:22] <dwatkins_> if the version in the repository isn't new enough, you might be able to install the testing version, Raliegh
[20:22] <haylo> you usually get an option to install over the older copy
[20:22] <Raliegh> _jason, well they haven't. So, what I need to figure out is how to update, not why Ubuntu hasn't bothered to do it.
[20:23] <_jason> Raliegh: they have.
[20:23] <maheanuu> haylo, was that meant for me?
[20:23] <tobier> Raliegh: you can build apache yourself if there are no binaries available that works for you..
[20:23] <Raliegh> _Jason, repository is 2.2.17, current version (with fix) is 2.2.21
[20:23] <_jason> Raliegh: *sigh*
[20:24] <tobier> Raliegh: fetch the source and build it yourself then
[20:24] <Raliegh> tobier, I really don't want to have to deal with compiling a source and whatnot. I kind of want this to be as easy as possible, and keep my current config.
[20:24] <who_me> Raliegh, sometimes fixes get backported. If you have a test case that reveals that is not the case you could request a backport of the fix or of the version you need. Usually sys-admins are "control freaks" and compile and roll out their own stuff :)
[20:24] <_jason> Raliegh: again, ubuntu will cherry pick security patches and incorporate them into the packages.  Here is your specific bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/392759
[20:24] <tobier> Raliegh: deal with that? ./configure, make, make install
[20:25] <Chotaz`> !n NCIS
[20:25] <g00gle> Ubuntu Server help is available here correct? - I would like to install ZendTo (http://zend.to) and I have the x64 version of Ubuntu, however - in order for php to handle downloads / uploads of 2GB+ I need to complie php for x64... is this something you guys can help me with? is there such a package in the ubuntu repositories for x64 PHP...?
[20:26] <owenll> maheanuu: yes it is possible - I have done it - it will be an option when you install
[20:27] <trism> raven: one of the plugins for lmms is linked to libwine, there is a bug about downgrading it to recommends, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=622080
[20:27] <maheanuu> owenll, then all I need to do is drop 10.10 on a USB key and boot from it and it will walk me thru without trashing all my data and personal stuff?
[20:28] <maheanuu> owenll, and that should rid me of all the extra Skypes and bring back my CDRom to operating condition once again?
[20:29] <owenll> maheanuu: Yes. This is the question I asked on the ub forums, and the answers I got: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1591350
[20:31] <GaRRu> Anyone is Specialized with Facebook accounts, can Please do me a Private Message? Thank you, if you can.
[20:31] <xangua> !anyone | GaRRu
[20:31] <owenll> maheanuu: check out the advice there on backing up
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> !gq > MonkeyDust
[20:33] <tyler_d> how do you grep for a unicode ^D
[20:34] <haylo> maheanuu yes it was. there is alsmost always an option in the ubuntu installer to reinstall over the existing installation and delete the original installation. this is what i personally usually choose
[20:35] <haylo> it is a very user friendly install option
[20:37] <_jason> Raliegh: do you understand what to check for now?
[20:39] <agarwood> hello ! do you know what i have to write in .conkyrc for use conky..?
[20:41] <Bardzolubiekoty> anything :?
[20:41] <tobier> agarwood: man conky
[20:41] <Bardzolubiekoty> if not file specified, default should run just fine
[20:43] <farrukhjon> hi all!
[20:43] <farrukhjon> where trash button in gnome-shell ?
[20:46] <owenll> agarwood: there are many thingsyou could write in .conkyrc - or you could copy what someone else has written - thousands of customized conkyrc files for you to try here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[20:46] <dr_willis> button to clean the trash? or get to the trash dir?
[20:46] <jbwiv> anyone know if 11.10 is yet able to work across 3+ monitors (with xinerama or something else)? when it first released, it wasn't , but I've heard work has been done on multi-monitor support
[20:47] <AnonMasochist> how do I fix the ever so famous FREEZING problem in Ubuntu 10.04!?!, I have looked on ALL forums, and still can't find a freakin' solution, other than to switch to a less user friendly Linux OS.	
[20:47] <dr_willis> AnonMasochist:  you could be giving more details... not just repeating rather vague statements.
[20:48] <xangua> AnonMasochist: no here we go again with the 'famous' freezing poblem¿
[20:48] <xangua> so here we go
[20:49] <dr_willis> given i can think of a dozen + ways 'freezing' can be interperted...
[20:49] <AnonMasochist> when I use Firefox, after a while the whole system freezes, requiring a hard reset, only to happen again later, same goes for whenever I play games that require a lot of graphics, like Warsow, this problem happens with loads of other programs too, like Mixxx. this problem has been reported by so many Ubuntu users, this problem only started to occur with Ubuntu 10.04 onwards, all I have found is a planned fix 'revise kernel', I
[20:49] <AnonMasochist> need a fix now, I can't do anythin', it's driving me insane.
[20:50] <_jason> AnonMasochist: video driver would be my first guess.  What card?
[20:50] <owenll> AnonMasochist: if you are referring to this bug - had it myself in 10.04 - there are instructions here on disabling irqbalance that worked for me https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/528720
[20:50] <_jason> AnonMasochist: actually, I would run a memtest first
[20:51] <dwatkins_> yes, another vote for memtest, the timing might be coincidental
[20:51] <fidel> AnonMasochist: is it a real freeze or is the "gui" just not rwacting anymore?
[20:51] <fidel> as in: can you ssh in at that point?
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> This problem is all over the forums, almost EVERY Ubuntu 10.04 user is experiancing this problem, this is no driver problem.well, when I use Firefox, after a while the whole system freezes, requiring a hard reset, only to happen again later, same goes for whenever I play games that require a lot of graphics, like Warsow, this problem happens with loads of other programs too, like Mixxx. this problem has been reported by so many Ubun
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> tu users, this problem only started to occur with Ubuntu 10.04 onwards, all I have found is a planned fix 'revise kernel', I
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> need a fix now, I can't do anythin', it's driving me insane.
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> woah!
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> wrong paste
[20:52] <fidel> AnonMasochist: dont repeat
[20:52] <fidel> ;)
[20:52] <AnonMasochist> I din't repeat
[20:53] <AnonMasochist> the chat client screwed up
[20:53] <jbwiv> anyone know if 11.10 is yet able to work across 3+ monitors (with xinerama or something else)? when it first released, it wasn't , but I've heard work has been done on multi-monitor support
[20:53] <dr_willis> not like we can come up with a magtical fix when a fix is allready planned... you could just try a newer kenrel/ppa i guess..
[20:53] <_jason> AnonMasochist: what's the bug report?
[20:53] <SVNDR> How do i go about finding mounted devices (such as iPhones/iPods) in the HomeFolder part?
[20:53] <owenll> AnonMasochist: both keyboard and mouse freezing using firefox and other software - having to hard reboot drove me insane for months - see bug and solution posted above
[20:53] <BussDriver> jbwiv: I'm using three monitors at the moment - two external and my built-in laptop display
[20:53] <AnonMasochist> wait!
[20:54] <BussDriver> jbwiv: on 11.10
[20:54] <AnonMasochist> the client screwed up!
[20:54] <AnonMasochist> stop typing for a few secs!
[20:54] <dr_willis> SVNDR:  mounted filesystems normally are in /media/
[20:54] <AnonMasochist> I need to locate a paste
[20:54] <jbwiv> BussDriver, are you using xinerama?
[20:54] <imajes> hey, anyone here work on upstart?
[20:54] <AnonMasochist> I accidentialye type, within a paste
[20:54] <cgfree> Can someone tell me how i can edit my XF86Config/X.Org configuration file ?
[20:54] <BussDriver> jbwiv: To be honest I have no idea. I just plugged them in and they worked.  I'm using the open source radeon driver.
[20:54] <SVNDR> dr_willis thanks Doc.
[20:55] <dr_willis> cgfree:  its a text file.  sudo nano /path/to/file    would be the normal way to edit it.
[20:55] <jbwiv> BussDriver, interesting...ok. I'm using an nvidia card :-/
[20:55] <Lozzy_uk> Hi, got a problem with UbuntuStudio - I know there's a channel for that, but it's Ubuntu related...and specifically to gigolo
[20:55] <jbwiv> BussDriver, is that with Ubuntu 2D?
[20:55] <BussDriver> no
[20:55] <BussDriver> standard unity
[20:55] <cgfree> dr_willis, /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf - would this be considered my XF86Config/X.org ?
[20:55] <dr_willis> cgfree:  yes,  why are youneeding to edit it>
[20:56] <jbwiv> BussDriver, wow...I didn't think you could do compiz across 3 monitors. mind pastbin'ing your x config?
[20:56] <AnonMasochist> This problem is all over the forums, almost EVERY Ubuntu 10.04 user is experiancing this problem, this is no driver problem.
[20:56] <_jason> AnonMasochist: stop saying that...
[20:56] <dr_willis> if the fix is a 'kernel update' it sounds like a kernel/driver problem to me.
[20:57] <cgfree> dr_willis, I am editing it because I have come across issues with my Pen Tablet -- which when i #lsusb shows me it's recognized as Genius MousePen 5x4 Tablet and so it works - I  ran the #wizardpen-calibrate so that I could fix the errors where GIMP is not tracking the movement correctly...
[20:57] <_jason> AnonMasochist: you found a bug report for your issue? Not a forum thread; a bug report
[20:57] <Lozzy_uk> anyone know why when I launch Gigolo it switches my desktop to Nautilus dsktop?
[20:58] <cgfree> dr_willis, now after doing that, wizardpen-calibrate has given me a list of lines to add to my "XF86Config/X.Org" as it calls it
[20:59] <Lozzy_uk> no-one here uses Gigolo?
[20:59] <dr_willis> never even heard of it Lozzy_uk
[20:59] <Lozzy_uk> oh, it's a network share connect type app
[20:59] <AnonMasochist> Ubuntu 10.04 keeps completely freezing at random intervals requiring a hard reset, there is no fix available, this problem is happening to almost every Ubuntu 10.04 user and there is currently no fix!, AAAARRGH!!!!
[21:00] <_jason> AnonMasochist: why are you ignoring my question and constantly pasting the same useless comment over and over?
[21:00] <cgfree> dr_willis, sorry to bother you, but could you answer why my xorg.conf is listed as xorg.conf.d ?
[21:00] <dr_willis> AnonMasochist:  you stated the fix was comming out in a newer kernel earlier
[21:00] <owenll> AnonMasochist: there is a solution https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/528720
[21:00] <dr_willis> cgfree:  its not.. you can make a xorg.conf file if you want one.
[21:00] <Lozzy_uk> when I run it, it uses nautilus, and consequently switches my desktop
[21:00] <acidfrost> !repeat | AnonMasochist
[21:01] <dr_willis> Lozzy_uk:  what desktop are you using?
[21:01] <Lozzy_uk> xfce
[21:01] <TheExplorer>  "The package libstdc++6-4.5-dev needs to be reinstalled" This is popping up when i apt-get... anyone familiar with this?
[21:01] <cgfree> dr_willis, im a little new to ubuntu, but i have some basic knowledge... how would I make a xorg.conf?
[21:01] <Lozzy_uk> or trying to :)
[21:01] <Swamp> Hello, I have a problem with bluetooth headphones I bought. ubuntu doesn't like reconnecting to them. the only way to get it to connect again is to go through the whole pairing process
[21:01] <_jason> TheExplorer: reinstall it?
[21:01] <dr_willis> check its configs and see if you cant tell it to use the xffm or whatever file manager its using.
[21:01] <dr_willis> cgfree:  its a text file. use the sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf    type command.
[21:02] <TheExplorer> _jason: Thats kind of insulting.
[21:02] <dr_willis> cgfree:  or whatever other editor you like.
[21:02] <Lozzy_uk> I can, and I have - BUT if I then try and launch it from a startup script, it ignores that
[21:02] <SVNDR> If i wanted to upgrade from Ubuntu to Xubuntu would need to download a whole new ISO image?
[21:02] <dr_willis> SVNDR:  install the xubuntu-desktop package. and select xubuntu at the login screen..is how i normally do it.
[21:03] <dr_willis> then you can try out xubuntu, and switch back to gnome if you wanted to.
[21:03] <TheExplorer> SVNDR You can run Xubuntu and Ubuntu together. Just install XFCE and Ubuntu themes with XFCE tools
[21:03] <arno> hi
[21:03] <SVNDR> dr_willis: cheers
[21:03] <AnonMasochist> the link someone here just sent me saying it's a fix to my problem, wtf!?!, that thread is un-related completely!
[21:03] <Lozzy_uk> dr_willis: and thanks for your response btw
[21:03] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: is there an ISO image for it though, not that i want to do it that way, as the way yous have just described sound alot easier..
[21:04] <sewerurchin> SVDR: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[21:04] <cgfree> dr_willis, hmm, this seems odd because /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ is actually a directory, and within that dir theres what i think is a list of tablet configs.. eg. "10-evdev.conf" / "50-synaptics.conf" / "50-wacom.conf" ---
[21:04] <acidfrost> !paste | cgfree
[21:04] <SVNDR> sewerurchin: cheers
[21:04] <janisozaur> hello, I have quite a few small (~300MB) files that I'd like to record to dvd. is there a program that would automatically, optimally split the files to dvds?
[21:04] <sewerurchin> SVDR: Log out and select xubuntu
[21:04] <Guest51081> is there anybody here ,  my scanner print is not reconized, so i have made a starter with scangearmp
[21:04] <SVNDR> sewerurchin: alright thanks, and will everything i currently have stay? and roughly how big is the file?
[21:04] <AnonMasochist> IF ANYONE has a fix to the Ubuntu 10.04 freezing problem please dialog me new tab.
[21:05] <Swamp> can someone help me fix my problem with bluetooth? it keeps connecting and disconnecting when I tell it to connect with headphones I have already paired with it
[21:05] <acidfrost> !repeat | AnonMasochist
[21:05] <TheExplorer> SVNDR When you install XFCE (The desktop environment for Xubuntu) and its tools and themes, the only real difference is maybe... the login screen. You will have Gnome tools on your XFCE menus, but you can easily edit the menus
[21:05] <Guest51081> its work with scangear but dont work with simplscan
[21:05] <AnonMasochist> *facepalm*
[21:05] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: does the keyboard freeze as described in the bug report you've been given?
[21:05] <TheExplorer> SVNDR After you install it, Just change "sessions" when you log in, to XFCE and you will have the lighter environment
[21:06] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: oh ok.. and ill still have the option to use Ubuntu right?
[21:06] <AnonMasochist> that link is completely un-related to me ploblem,
[21:06] <AnonMasochist> wait
[21:06] <dr_willis> SVNDR:  you may want to check out Lubuntu also.
[21:06] <acidfrost> SVNDR dr_willis 's idea is much easier
[21:06] <AnonMasochist> accidental enter let me finnish
[21:06] <AnonMasochist> brb
[21:06] <TheExplorer> SVNDR Its all Ubuntu: Just with XFCE (Xubuntu) KDE (Kubuntu) or LXDE (Lubuntu) etc...
[21:07] <Swamp> can I get some help with bluetooth?
[21:07] <acidfrost> !ask | Swamp
[21:07] <TheExplorer> Swamp whats up with your BT?
[21:07] <SVNDR> dr_willis, acidfrost, TheExplorer: wow.. so lets just say, i have a current CPU overheating problem.. which one should i try first.. even if you dont think it will fix it, but what one goes easiest on the CPU
[21:07] <SVNDR> and RAm
[21:07] <acidfrost> SVNDR, fluxbox or any *box
[21:08] <Lozzy_uk> any ideas dr_willis ?
[21:08] <haylo> what is the cpu temperature?
[21:08] <acidfrost> SVNDR also buy a heatsink they're like 5$
[21:08] <Swamp> IT won't re connect with my headphones, instead it connects and reconnects over and over
[21:08] <TheExplorer> SVNDR: Right click ubuntu top task bar. Click "add to bar" add Cpu Throttle ("CPU scaling") widget. Use slider to control CPU speed. Aside form that, Get a can of air and take it to your HeatSink
[21:08] <AnonMasochist> It's not a keyboard issue, I'm experiencing system wide freezes that require a hard-reset.
[21:08] <raven> 11.10 + lmms depends on wine1.2 - how to edit debian controll file
[21:09] <AnonMasochist> random system wide freezes
[21:09] <acidfrost> !repeat | AnonMasochist
[21:09] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: ok, so things continue to happen on the screen? Can you reproduce the problem if you remove irqbalance? What about when booted from CD?
[21:09] <AnonMasochist> some programs in-use trigger the freezes more often.
[21:09] <SVNDR> acidfrost, TheExplorer: thanks ill try all them ideas, pretty bad heats, getting close to 80C this morning
[21:09] <AnonMasochist> like Firefox, Mixx, or Warsow game
[21:10] <agarwood> thank you every body !
[21:10] <Guest51081> hy i have config my scanner with scangear, why i cant use simply scan or Xsane ??
[21:10] <TheExplorer> SVNDR: Laptop, desktop, what?
[21:10] <AnonMasochist> solution?, /Dialo me, new teb.
[21:10] <acidfrost> SVNDR, thats pretty bad don't forget to clean your psu too
[21:10] <AnonMasochist> tab*
[21:10] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: I've made some suggestions here
[21:10] <acidfrost> SVNDR, you'd be amazed at how fast dust builds up in your system
[21:10] <AnonMasochist> shoot
[21:10] <raven> 11.10 + lmms depends on wine1.2 - how to edit debian controll file
[21:10] <Lozzy_uk> let me put it another way - if I launch a prog from terminal it's good, but if I launch it from a startup-script it ignores the prefs. Anyone know why that should happen?
[21:11] <haylo> what is this cpu throttle you speak of?
[21:11] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: laptop - acidfrost: i cleaned it out this morning, and last week when installing more RAM, not much dust at all.. and where can i get a heat sink?
[21:11] <acidfrost> Newegg
[21:11]  * AnonMasochist don't want to live on this planet anymore.
[21:11] <haylo> i am in 11.04 i dont see a cpu throttle
[21:11] <fhtagn> AnonMasochist: why don't you just kill yourself?
[21:11] <acidfrost> SVNDR, newegg or tigerdirect, bestbuy
[21:12] <AnonMasochist> fhtagn: thinkin' 'bout it.
[21:12] <jxshxx> Anyone available to assist w/ an OS that isn't booting?
[21:12] <gdoteof> i am wanting to move everything from one folder to another, including hidden files/folders
[21:12] <acidfrost> SVNDR, salvage one from an older computer (if it fits)
[21:12] <dr_willis> jxshxx:  give details to the channel of exactly what it is soind.
[21:12] <gdoteof> mv skips hidden
[21:12] <haylo> what is this cpu throttle you speak of?
[21:12] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: I made some suggestions earlier, perhaps they will help, see my reply to you 3 minutes ago
[21:12] <Guest51081> ok by
[21:12] <SVNDR> acidfrost: alright thanks again, and no old comps, unfortunately, scrapped two and sold most of the parts not to long ago
[21:12] <acidfrost> SVNDR, put a fan next to your computer(not a computer fan but a full size one)
[21:12] <TheExplorer> SVNDR Heatsink in laptop is irrelevant, you would need a fan. Pop open your laptop, find the heatsink (Get a diagram its easy stuff) and check for dust. IF you ever seen a heatsink it will make sense once you see it.
[21:12] <jxshxx> dr_willis: Detailed here - http://pastebin.com/J3XHemJe
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> dwatkins_  3 minutes ago, that's 500 lines ago
[21:13]  * AnonMasochist smashes head repeatedly against keyboard, whilst waiting for another SYSTEM WIDE FREEZE.
[21:13] <acidfrost> SVNDR, ahh missed the laptop then i'd go buy one of those cooling pads for laptops
[21:13] <budmang> Hey guys.. I had 3 monitors(3 different video cards) working on winxp... I wanted ubuntu :) and its not as easy as I thought..
[21:13] <Lozzy_uk> doon't be down Anonmasochist
[21:13] <dr_willis> budmang:  i had 3 monitors working ages and ages ago..  it was flakey then. :)
[21:13] <TheExplorer> Cooling pad wont work acidfrost if his Heatsnk is clogged.
[21:14] <SVNDR> acidfrost, TheExplorer: im trying to right these ideas down as fast as i can haha all sound pretty good
[21:14] <dr_willis> budmang:  are all the cards using teh same drivers?
[21:14] <Lozzy_uk> if I launch a prog from terminal it's good, but if I launch it from a startup-script it ignores the prefs. Anyone know why that should happen?
[21:14] <budmang> dr_willis: Id settle to get 2 up(then work on the 3rd heh).. no ati, nvidia and intel.
[21:14] <AnonMasochist> I can't scroll up, when I do, someone comment, and it brings me back to the bottom, that's crappy IRC client included with the OS for ya.
[21:14] <acidfrost> TheExplorer, yeah thats why we suggested to clean it out with air lol
[21:14] <TheExplorer> SVNDR: Fix the laptop... Open and clean... If fan = dead. Get new fan. Clock down like i told you until then
[21:14] <haylo> yeah 3 mons on three GPUs sounds sort of unrealistic unless you are building a long term linux install
[21:14] <dr_willis> AnonMasochist:  and which irc client is this?
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> AnonMasochist  then use another client
[21:14] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: first thing to do is to find the common factor in the crashes, is it the OS, the installation, the memory, the disk etc. if you can't see any errors that explain it in the dmesg or syslog
[21:14] <TheExplorer> SVNDR: With air, blow Opposite of heat exhaust air flow when its off!
[21:14] <AnonMasochist> Empathy
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> !info irssi| AnonMasochist
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> !info irssi
[21:15] <dr_willis> I perfer weechat over irssi these days. :)
[21:15] <dr_willis> Night all...
[21:15] <Lozzy_uk> nn dr
[21:15] <TheExplorer> "The package libstdc++6-4.5-dev needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an an
[21:15] <TheExplorer> archive for it."
[21:15] <acidfrost> MonkeyDust, you need a space before and after the pipe
[21:16] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: i tried adding the CPU thing to the top bar, but i cant right click for some reason.. when i hover over it i get options for file, edit..ect but no add option
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> !info irssi | MonkeyDust
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> acidfrost  !!
[21:16] <AnonMasochist> dwatkins_: the crashes are RANDOM the freezes are RANDOM!, no real consistency, GOOGLE 'Ubuntu 10.04 Freezing problem', you'l see what I mean in the forum threads!
[21:16] <TheExplorer> SVNDR Naked spot without a thingy
[21:17] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: that sounds like a hardware problem to me, do other operating systems also crash on the same PC?
[21:17] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: yep, tried all over it, couldnt get it lol
[21:17] <acidfrost> MonkeyDust, yeah try not to miss the spaces other wise you get page cleaners from ubottu like the one we just had
[21:17] <TheExplorer> SVNDR Add new bar, click on desktop
[21:17] <acidfrost> MonkeyDust, when in doubt just /msg ubottu
[21:18] <Lozzy_uk> if I launch a prog from terminal it's good, but if I launch it from a startup-script it behaves differently. Anyone know why?
[21:18] <AnonMasochist> dwatkins_: I only use Ubuntu on this machine, but SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY OTHER USERS HAVE THIS SAME PROBLEM AND FIND NOOOOOOOOO SOLUTION, as I am having no solution.
[21:18] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: still not finding it :\
[21:18] <TheExplorer> SVNDR dunno man. Should work
[21:18] <AnonMasochist> CHECK teh threads, GOOGLE 'Ubuntu 10.04 Freezing Problem' for more details on this problem!
[21:19] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: I appreciate there are many similar threads, but other people's freezing problems may be different, and some do have solutions.
[21:19] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: your talking about the bar right at the very top yea? with the Option Button, and Network Connection and such? and im supposed to click in the middle where its blank?
[21:20] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: how long does it take (on average) between booting up and the system freezing, or can it sometimes continue for a very long time without freezing?
[21:20] <Lozzy_uk> if I launch a prog from terminal it's good, but if I launch it from a startup-script it behaves differently. Anyone know why?
[21:21] <TheExplorer> SVNDR eeeeeyup Right there. Left click "add to bar"
[21:21] <TheExplorer> SVNDR "add to panel" to be exact. Looking at it right now
[21:21] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, just reinstall ubuntu, I've never ever had this freezing problem i've been using 10.04 since it came out, something you installed did this, or you have bad ram
[21:21] <AnonMasochist> Random system wide freezes, random intervals, each freeze requiring a hard-reset, sometimes the freezes occur a lot more often when certain programs are running, like Firefox, Mixx, and the Warsow game is the worst for inducing the SYSTEM WIDE FREEZE!
[21:22] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: 11.10 by anychance?
[21:22] <TheExplorer> SVNDR You can use the bottom too if you want but it might get in the way.
[21:22] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, then your ram is bad and or you have a bad gpu
[21:22] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: does the display stop changing? does the screen go black? is it possible to switch to the text console with ctrl+alt+F1?
[21:22] <AnonMasochist> I have re-installed Ubuntu 6 times from USB, 2 times from CD, SAME PROBLEMS!
[21:22] <TheExplorer> SVNDR Aaaaack... That... Unity desktop... thing. Yeah i have no clue, you have to ask them.
[21:22] <TheExplorer> SVNDR I use oldschool gnome
[21:22] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: also, what versions of Ubuntu have you tried? Which demonstrate the problem?
[21:22] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, well then try a different version of UBUNTU
[21:23] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: haha ow i see, whats the app called again? ill see if i can find
[21:23] <haylo> unity is working well for veiwing documents and general academic stuff for me
[21:23] <Y-DNA> what was the dd command to layout the iso into a usb flash drive??
[21:23] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, i'm seriously starting to believe your just here to troll as you keep repeating your self despite my attempts to tell you to be patient
[21:23] <haylo> i dont mind the snap to screen because i need everything enlarged right away
[21:23] <Lozzy_uk> Anonmasochist: that kind of proves your problem is probably with your hardware then Anon
[21:23] <Y-DNA> dd=of=ubuntu.iso /dev/sdX ??
[21:24] <TheExplorer> SVNDR its a CPU Throttle. I dont know how to add that to 11.10
[21:24] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, as i've stated before its bad ram or a bad gpu
[21:24] <haylo> yeah you have to drop of untiy  i think
[21:24] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: hope ill find a way, sounds usefull
[21:24] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: there's an application which will do that for you, system disk creator, iirc (or unetbootin if you have an older version of Ubuntu)
[21:24] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: correction, Startup Disk Creator
[21:25] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, its real common on ancient graphics cards and old ram
[21:25] <Lozzy_uk> if I launch an app from a terminal it works perfectly, but if I launch it from a startup-script it behaves differently. Anyone know why?
[21:25] <TheExplorer>  The package libstdc++6-4.5-dev needs to be reinstalled <--- "cant find archive for it" anyone know what i can do?
[21:25] <Y-DNA> dwatkins_: I am not on any install, unfortunately and don't have a CD/DVD burner. That's the situation here.
[21:25] <AnonMasochist> The screen freezes, sound usualy stops in a stutter, if playing music with Rhythm Box, that last track will continue to the end., no controls, no keyboard, no mouse, no FN keys NOTHING, total SYSTEM WIDE FREEZE.
[21:26] <snowrichard> i used to have problems like that with nvidia X driver
[21:26] <snowrichard> changed to vesa and it stopped
[21:26] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: what operating system are you using to create the USB bootable installation device?
[21:26] <TimTom1901_> hello
[21:27] <AnonMasochist> I built my computer from new parts last year, I can't use the £200 graphics card 'cos of OpenGL problems and no current working driver, I'm stuck with Intel I3 On-board graphics
[21:27] <Lozzy_uk> hi timtom
[21:27] <AnonMasochist> system is NOT ancient
[21:27] <AnonMasochist> ram is 4GB Corsair
[21:27] <AnonMasochist> 2 X 2GB
[21:27] <guntbert> AnonMasochist: even if you are angry - no need to "shout" all the time :)
[21:27] <Y-DNA> got it --> "dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX"
[21:27] <elops> how  to get a mic working on  ubuntu?
[21:27] <haylo> AnonMasochist, have you tried it with a different driver like say fglrx?
[21:28] <AnonMasochist> Motherboard is Gigabyte H55N Mini ITX
[21:28] <pinguinux> elops, you must config it in pulseaudio
[21:28] <Y-DNA>  dwatkins_ I am using LiveUSB sysrescuecd
[21:28] <budmang> anyone have issues with intel g31 graphics and ubuntu?
[21:28] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, bad ram enough said i've had this problem numerous times
[21:28] <pinguinux> pavucontrol
[21:28] <elops> me?
[21:28] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: what are you trying to do from the live CD? install Ubuntu?
[21:28] <elops> pavucontrol?
[21:28] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, it is possible to buy defective new products
[21:29] <elops> is it muted or what?
[21:29] <pinguinux> maybe
[21:29] <Lozzy_uk> acidfrost: I get the impression he's talking and not listening
[21:29] <AnonMasochist> haylo: screw the graphics card, I'll live with On-board graphics for now, I just want this freezing issue sorted!
[21:29] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: do other operating systems work ok on this PC?
[21:29] <acidfrost> Lozzy_uk, yeah i'm about ask for the ops to -q him
[21:29] <Y-DNA> dwatkins_: my goal is a LiveUSB
[21:29] <elops> any ideas?
[21:29] <acidfrost> *+q
[21:30] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: ok cool, what are you using to create it?
[21:30] <elops> how  to get a mic working on  ubuntu?
[21:30] <Y-DNA> dd
[21:30] <Y-DNA> dd doesn't have progress??
[21:30] <Y-DNA> :(
[21:30] <acidfrost> Lozzy_uk, it stands to reason that when a user talks and not listens that that user might be a bot
[21:30] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: from what operating system?
[21:30] <haylo> i use debians bpo kernel for running my high end gpu with no driver AnonMasochist
[21:30] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: no, dd will not show progress
[21:30] <AnonMasochist> I have tried Linux Min 9 XFCE from a Unetbootin Live USB, and although LinuxMint has major problems on my netbook, surprisingly none whatsoever with this system.
[21:31] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, then use Mint
[21:31] <Lozzy_uk> acidfrost: bloody clever one if that's true...I suspect he's just a lowly human :)
[21:31] <elops> i hear sound but just can't  use mic
[21:31] <mobius420> Greetings #Ubuntu
[21:31] <mobius420> elops, you are having trouble using your mic?
[21:31] <un1xdroop> oi
[21:31] <Y-DNA> how hard is to add progress to dd??
[21:32] <acidfrost> AnonMasochist, if we don't get some form of a response to what we are telling you then i'll ask the ops to quiet you
[21:32] <un1xdroop> fala black
[21:32] <elops> mobius420 yes
[21:32] <Y-DNA> that's sheer sazyness
[21:32] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: have you tested the hard disk or tried another? any errors in /var/log/messages about disk problems?
[21:32] <Lozzy_uk> elops have you tried adjusting your mixer settings?
[21:32] <laureano-black> Helo un1xdroop
[21:32] <mobius420> elops,  are you using pulse ?
[21:32] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: you can make dd show progress, but it's a little tricky
[21:32] <Y-DNA> now I don't know how long will it take to perform the full operation
[21:32] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: how fast is the USB device and port?
[21:32] <Y-DNA> there should be a switch for that.
[21:33] <elops> where do i config it do i need to install pulseaudio
[21:33] <SVNDR> TheExplorer: ok  just downloaded xfce4-cpufreq-plugin from the software centre, not sure how im supposed to use it becuae i cant even find it..
[21:33] <AnonMasochist> like I said, so many other Ubuntu 10.04 users have reported my problem, got nowhere, gave up, said goodbye to Ubuntu., I WANT UBUNTU, I AM ACCUSTOMED TO UBUNTU, I just want the freezes to go away! (*quietly weeps*)
[21:33] <celord> hello all, using vmware sometimes my keyboard goes crazy, the Shift and Ctrl key dies, is there any way to "reload the keyboard" without reloading the X ?
[21:33] <elops> mobius420: no but i probably could
[21:33] <elops> where do i config it do i need to install pulseaudio
[21:33] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: many applications do have a progress bar, some command line ones even, but dd is quite basic; you can add progress if you want, though, but you need to know how large your source file is
[21:33] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: I heard Linux Mint is on the rise, specially how they are fixing Gnome3.
[21:33] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: please don't shout
[21:34] <Lozzy_uk> elops - I don't think you need to install pulse
[21:34] <elops> what to do?
[21:34] <AnonMasochist> I hate Gnome 3, I want the Gnome 2 Ubuntu 10.04, Ubuntu 10.04 is PERFECT for all my needs, I just want the freezing to end!
[21:35] <Y-DNA> dwatkins_:  is the ubuntu iso, according to ls -->  733261824
[21:35] <paulsomebody> Hello, sentient life forms. Can anyone advice me on what command line do I need to put in Startup Applications to make command run after a delay?
[21:35] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: you can apparently find out dd's progress whilst it's running, in a way
[21:35] <elops> where do i config it do i need to install pulseaudio
[21:35] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: Linux Mint what you're looking for
[21:35] <elops> ok i see that what one  would i need
[21:35] <AnonMasochist> Y-DNA: LM is too buggy for me
[21:35] <munzxttt> hi! .... how can i create a 'live usb' ... i have the 'iso' and i tried unebooten but it did not work!!
[21:36] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: it's not
[21:36] <elops> any ideas?
[21:36] <elops> i hear sound but just can't  use mic
[21:36] <AnonMasochist> why can't some clever dev just release a .DEB package that fixes all these freezing and crashing problems!?!
[21:36] <mobius420> elops, if you are using ALSA you might be able to check your mic using    alsamixer
[21:36] <dwatkins_> Y-DNA: if you send the dd process the USR1 signal, it will print out its current statistics
[21:36] <TheExplorer> I give up on my issue. Im formatting the whole damn thing.
[21:36] <autif> munzxttt: use startup disk creator
[21:37] <paulsomebody> Okay, I have figured it out. It was 'sleep'. Totally unexpected.
[21:37] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: ha ha, I am creating a LiveUSB myself
[21:37] <Lozzy_uk> elops: see private dialog buddy
[21:37] <mobius420> elops,  from terminal type  alsamixer
[21:37] <mobius420> then make sure your mic is turned on
[21:37] <glebihan> paulsomebody, not sure you can do that directly, but you could put make a script with the sleep command and the real command, and then add that script to your startup apps
[21:37] <munzxttt> autif : it is available in the software center?!
[21:37] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: like this dd if=Downloads/kubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdX
[21:38] <Y-DNA> DAAAYYUUUUUUMM!!!!
[21:38] <Y-DNA> now I gotta reboot :(
[21:38] <AnonMasochist> Y-DNA: I tested LM on my netbook, although it was running from a live USB, it wasn't recognizing and USB sticks I pluged in, not buggy you say!?!
[21:38] <paulsomebody> glebihan: I think I can. If I put 'sleep 10 && …' in the terminal, it works.
[21:38] <AnonMasochist> and = any*
[21:38] <paulsomebody> glebihan: I see no reason why it would not work as expected in the system startup.
[21:38] <mobius420> can anyone tell me how to kill the webserver daemon which runs automatically in 11.04?
[21:38] <glebihan> paulsomebody, in the terminal, yes, but I'm not sure it'll work in startup applications (worth the try though)
[21:39] <mobius420> I am wishing to run a development server but it cannot run with the webserver already running
[21:39] <elops> In UBUNTU, I  hear sound but just can't  use mic
[21:39] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: I suggest you check out your hard disk
[21:40] <Y-DNA> elops: try gentoo, sound works outta da box
[21:40] <munki> hey all- having a weird problem on my netbook where the unity bar on the left seems like it is active (like when I click on things in the right space they happen) but it is invisible
[21:40] <elops> i dont want to try gentoo
[21:40] <elops> im in #ubuntu
[21:40] <mobius420> /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[21:40] <autif> mobius420: you can also use "service apache2 stop"
[21:40] <glebihan> Y-DNA, are you here just to suggest people to use other distributions ?
[21:40] <Y-DNA> elops: how about enabling the mic?? that should do it.
[21:41] <AnonMasochist> I am an IT Technician, I HATE Mac and Windows, 'cos they suck and are un-ethical, immoral, and now I hate Linux, AAAARRGH!!!!
[21:41] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: does the problem happen if you boot from the Ubuntu live USB image?
[21:41] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: perhaps your machine is broken?
[21:41] <AnonMasochist> dwatkins_: the freezing problem?
[21:41] <shades> how do I check to see if a package is installed/
[21:41] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: yeah
[21:41] <AnonMasochist> yes
[21:41] <acidfrost> !ops | AnonMasochist ( refuses to listen and repeatedly asked the same question) please quiet him
[21:42] <bastidrazor> acidfrost: that isn't a reason to call a channel emergency.
[21:42] <Lozzy_uk> shades: use either synaptic or ubuntu software centre
[21:42] <budmang> intel gma3100 ... graphics seem super slow.. monitor shows up as unknown in displays.. resolutions is right... what am I missing?
[21:42] <bastidrazor> shades: apt-cache policy packagename
[21:42] <AnonMasochist> Y-DNA: evidence from looking on many many forums would suggest my machine is NOT broken.
[21:42] <shades> lozzy_uk i'm trying to do it from the cli
[21:43] <AnonMasochist> this is a problem with the Ubuntu OS itself!]
[21:43] <elops> In UBUNTU, I  hear sound but just can't  use mic
[21:43] <Y-DNA> lawlwut??? after dd'ing it went from W95 FAT32 to Hidden HPFS/NTFS and is not showing the ISO partition!!
[21:43] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: it might be a driver issue, have you installed the Intel driver? What about when booted from USB?
[21:43] <zx81> hi
[21:43] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: in which circumstances does the machine congeal?
[21:43] <zx81> i have a hdd usb
[21:44] <zx81> hd usb not reconized ???$*
[21:44] <acidfrost> bastidrazor, stands to reason that he may just be a bot, he doesn't acknowledge anything we say
[21:44] <elops> SHOULD i use pulseaudio manager????
[21:44] <dwatkins_> elops: I found that padevchooser helped
[21:45] <AnonMasochist> Google 'Ubuntu 10.04 Freezing Problem', look at the forums, then give me a solution, 'cos at the moment, all I'm hearing is diagnostics that are ridiculously obvious, that I have of-course tried myself!
[21:45] <shades> Installed: (none) means it's not installed?
[21:45] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: the results you get from that query are too generic, that are most likely not caused by the same problem
[21:45] <bastidrazor> shades: correct.
[21:45] <elops> padevchooser ?
[21:45] <Y-DNA> can the Live ISO install packages?
[21:45] <acidfrost> bastidrazor, if he's not then he's trolling, i mean come on he asked the same thing 20 times said other users reported the error and then gave no further information, hasn't acknowledged much of what anyone has said
[21:46] <acidfrost> either
[21:46] <AlanBell> Y-DNA: yes, it can
[21:46] <Y-DNA> ok
[21:46] <guntbert> AnonMasochist: just a question from the side line: why are you insisting on 10.04?
[21:46] <dwatkins_> elops: yeah, you'll need to install it, but it might help, sorry but I don't know much else about pulseaudio
[21:46] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: have you tried 11.10?
[21:47] <AnonMasochist> I am currently using Intel I3 On-Board Graphics, graphics THAT generic would of-course work by default with Ubuntu 10.04 I assume.
[21:47] <dwatkins_> acidfrost: I suspect AnonMasochist needs to use a better IRC client, as apparently empathy isn't scrolling
[21:47] <Plinkett> Would a question about package files be appropriate here?
[21:47] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: actually no, that was a bit broken for the VGA port on laptops up to a few weeks ago unless you were running a kernel from a PPA
[21:47] <acidfrost> dwatkins_, i suspect he's just ignoring everything we've said
[21:48] <elops> AlanBell
[21:48] <elops> In UBUNTU, I  hear sound but just can't  use mic
[21:48] <elops> what to do?
[21:49] <AnonMasochist> guntbert: Ubuntu 10.04 is where everything (except freezing) was okay, Ubuntu onwards has too many changes, Ubuntu 10.04 is LTS, besides, I just set EVERYTHING up!, all my programs are installed, all my files are where I want them, configurations etc...
[21:49] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: have you tried booting from a liveCD and choosing the memtest86 option and leaving it running overnight?
[21:49] <autif> elops: install pavucontrol and play around with it
[21:49] <shades> what was the command that would tell you what dependencies a package had?
[21:49] <AnonMasochist> AlanBell: yes, of-couse, tested okay.
[21:49] <AnonMasochist> course*
[21:50] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: yeah, but it might provide interesting and useful information if you discover that say 11.10 works on a liveCD
[21:50] <BussDriver> jbwiv: Sorry, I had to take care of some other things.  I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[21:50] <BussDriver> jbwiv: That's just how 11.10 works now by default I believe.
[21:51] <Glitchd> elops, what version ubuntu?
[21:51] <BussDriver> jbwiv: You just go to System Settings - Displays - and enable all three monitors and place them how you want.
[21:51] <budmang> intel gma3100 ... graphics seem super slow.. monitor shows up as unknown in displays.. resolutions is right... what am I missing?
[21:51] <Y-DNA> jesus christ!! I have to reboot :(
[21:51] <AnonMasochist> everybody get 1 thing straight okay, I have set up everything how I want it, I am NOT changing to another OS, I like Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I am sticking to it, I just want the damned freezing problem to go away, SYSTEM WIDE FREEZES SUCK!!!
[21:52] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: yes, we know
[21:52] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: u could try linux mint.
[21:52] <Humbedooh> budmang, I'd say you're missing a proper graphics cards :p
[21:52] <Glitchd> elops, ?????
[21:52] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: so, is there anything in the logs?
[21:52] <mobius420> could someone explain how to stop the apache instance running in 11.04 out of the box I would be most appreciative
[21:52] <AnonMasochist> Y-DNA: too buggy
[21:52] <budmang> Humbedooh: ha...I swear Ive used it with older ubuntus flawless..
[21:52] <mobius420> Glitchd,  elops in PM
[21:53] <guntbert> AnonMasochist: please accept that we don't owe you anything, so we don't need to "get 1 thing straight" - we are all volunteers and try to help as well as possible
[21:53] <AnonMasochist> dwatkins_: sames as everyone else in the forums, x-session errors
[21:53] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: you need to provide actionable information that people can use to help you
[21:53] <Captain14> you mean I should send the paycheck I got from here back
[21:53] <Captain14> ;-(
[21:53] <mobius420> AnonMasochist,  what are you having problems with?
[21:53] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: if the system had frozen, it couldn't have written to the logfiles, check against the exact time of the freeze in the messagelog and xorg log.
[21:54] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: does it still respond on the network after the display freezes? can you still ping it or ssh to it?
[21:54] <acidfrost> I wouldn't bother answering him , its either a bot or he's here to troll
[21:54] <AnonMasochist> I am currently being forced to use crappy Opera Internet Browser, 'cos for some reason, Ubuntu doesn't crash much when that's running.
[21:54] <Y-DNA> over time I have come to the realization that ppl are victim of their own fault rather than the OS.
[21:54] <AlanBell> can you ctrl+alt+f1 to a terminal?
[21:54] <shades> it was apt-get something something ??
[21:54] <shades> i can't remember ;(
[21:54] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: could it be an overheating problem? clean the fans?
[21:54] <Y-DNA> linux is supposed to be rocks solid, if the freeze is system wide the only wrong thing is the user.
[21:55] <Humbedooh> apt-cache depends packagenameher
[21:55] <AnonMasochist> AlanBell: I'm not a network admin, I am an IT Techie, no overheating, hardware is all okay, I can assure you of that.
[21:55] <acidfrost> and we tried earlier to help him but apparently nothing got through
[21:55] <shades> after installing php5-pgsql do I need to do anything special for this to allow me to have php5 interact with postgress?
[21:55] <dwatkins_> I agree with AlanBell's suggestions, check console and sensors.
[21:55] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: do you have another computer you can run a ping and telnet test from?
[21:55] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: not asking for any advanced network stuff, just can you ping it?
[21:56] <AnonMasochist> DEFINITELY NO RELATED HARDWARE PROBLEMS
[21:56] <AnonMasochist> how can I ping it with no local network!?!
[21:56] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: we're trying to help, please don't shout
[21:56] <Humbedooh> shades, apt-cache depends (package name)
[21:56] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: we don't know about your network configuration, or lack of it
[21:56] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: if I suggest a command I would take an arrow to the knee.
[21:56] <blitz> there doesn't need to actually be something overheating, for a sensor to report it as such...
[21:57] <vouth> Hi, I just accidentally dragged my cairo-dock custom main menu (many times nested) out of the dock, and it vanished. I put a LOT of time into getting it right. How can I undo it?
[21:57] <pangolin> !behelpful | Y-DNA
[21:58] <gastronomixical> Over 1,500 people?!
[21:58] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: do you have any additional cards in the PC which aren't needed for the OS to boot? Have you tried removing them in case there's some conflict?
[21:58] <gastronomixical> Insane
[21:58] <budmang> intel gma3100 ... graphics seem super slow.. monitor shows up as unknown in displays.. resolutions is right... what am I missing? Anyone have an integrated intel card working well>
[21:58] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: I've followed your long winding tantrum, but at no point do you offer diagnoses sourrounding your problem.
[21:58] <acidfrost> budmang, yeah my gma950 is running fine
[21:58] <AnonMasochist> ugh I hate having to use the BASH command line, it scares me, being all annoying to use 'n' stuff, but if it would help anyone help me, I guess I could type in a few commands and paste the output.
[21:58] <mobius420> why is there a webserver running out of the box on my ubuntu install?
[21:58] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: do you have a network?
[21:59] <mobius420> and can anyone suggest how to kill it?
[21:59] <acidfrost> mobius420, you shouldn't have one
[21:59] <Kurdistan> Hi is there any one that knows how to get microphone working with nvidia hdmi. this person does have "home made" computer?
[21:59] <blitz> do you have htop mobius420 ?
[21:59] <Kurdistan> if any one can I will give more information
[21:59] <acidfrost> mobius420, assuming its apache, sudo killall -9 apache2
[21:59] <AlanBell> mobius420: apart from CUPS there shouldn't be one. How did you install Ubuntu?
[22:00] <blitz> ps -ef |grep apache to find out
[22:00] <AlanBell> mobius420: what is being served? what does it say on the page you see?
[22:00] <haylo> i love bash
[22:00] <AnonMasochist> I am an IT Technician, I have personally removed any hardware including graphics card which are not needed for the system to boot, to ensure no hardware conflicts.
[22:00] <Y-DNA> Oo
[22:00] <Y-DNA> lol
[22:00] <budmang> acidfrost: anything you can think Im missing? basic install... g33t-m2 motherboard(integrated gma3100 or g31)..
[22:00] <felipe_Brz> where can I obtain all dictionary files that come inside the */usr/share/dict* folder in ubuntu's in different languages??
[22:01] <mobius420> My situation is this:  I am trying to run a development server called xampp. It's a very simple Apache bundle server and it normally extracted to  /opt  and started with equally simple commands
[22:01] <budmang> acidfrost: seems like the intel drivers are loaded etc.. monitor shows as unknown in displays.
[22:01] <Y-DNA> AnonMasochist: are u dong a network boot??
[22:01] <AnonMasochist> all slots are empty.
[22:01] <Kurdistan> brb
[22:01] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: on another computer on your network (you are an IT tech so I presume you can find one to use even temporarily) ping the IP address of your ubuntu machine (doesn't matter if the thing pinging is windows mac or linux)
[22:01] <mobius420> but when I try to run the server I am told there is another webserver daemon running on this machine
[22:01] <Plinkett> Anyone familiar with using sqlite in tcl?
[22:01] <blitz> budmang, have you tried installing proprietary drivers?
[22:01] <glebihan> mobius420, you shouldn't install that on ubuntu. apache is in the repos and that's the one you should use
[22:01] <AnonMasochist> Y-DNA: I'm way too poor to afford a PXE server.
[22:02] <acidfrost> budmang, i'm just using the default 10.04
[22:02]  * Y-DNA somehow doesn't believe masochist is an IT at all.
[22:02] <acidfrost> budmang, you could try installing the intel drivers
[22:02] <budmang> acidfrost: this is 11.10... maybe I should try 10.?
[22:02] <multipass> anyone know what the problem with my amdcccle might be? It crashes without any error report(running in terminal) when I click apply after trying to change my dual monitor setup.
[22:02] <haylo> im tracking posts per minute starting now
[22:02] <Lozzy_uk> if I launch an app from a terminal it works perfectly, but if I launch it from a startup-script it behaves differently. Anyone know why?
[22:02] <blitz> before you do that budmang open up system settings and click additional drivers
[22:02] <acidfrost> budmang, you could if you don't mind losing your stuff, but it'd be easier to try the drivers
[22:03] <mobius420> blitz,   here is the output of that grep
[22:03] <mobius420> http://pastebin.com/6tXXSfA6
[22:03] <mobius420> is that a pid?
[22:03] <blitz> that means no apache server is running
[22:03] <AlanBell> Lozzy_uk: the environment might be different, what app and how did you add the startup script
[22:03] <budmang> blitz: the only ones that show up there are for the 2nd nvidia card(which Im not using or displaying anything currently) working on the first card 1st.
[22:03] <mobius420> blitz,  okay
[22:03] <AnonMasochist> I am on the problem computer as we speak, using it to talk to you people, so I assume the networking hardware is all okay, not that it would have even mattered with this particular non-network related problem.
[22:04] <vouth> Hi, I just accidentally dragged my cairo-dock custom main menu (many times nested) out of the dock, and it vanished. I put a LOT of time into getting it right. How can I undo it?
[22:04] <blitz> if you want mobius420, do sudo apt-get install htop
[22:04] <blitz> then you can run htop
[22:04] <blitz> and look at all the processes and kill ones
[22:04] <AnonMasochist> I see no reason why pingin' this thing would help this problem in any way
[22:04] <AlanBell> mobius420: how are you starting xampp? if you start it with your normal user you won't be allowed to take port 80, only root can grab ports below 1024 so you might need to start it with sudo, or pick a high port
[22:04] <Lozzy_uk> AlanBell: the app is Gigolo, and I put it in a script in my home dir called by the startup group from GUI
[22:04] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: the point is not to determine if the problem is related to networking, but to find out if when the machine "freezes" whether it's entirely hung, or if the OS is still running, but not responding to input, hence the questions about the text console, whether ctrl+alt+F1 works.
[22:05] <AlanBell> mobius420: or do some iptables remapping to have it run as a regular user on port 80 if you really want to
[22:05] <renemoraes> hello is there any graphic cards ninja online there?
[22:05] <AlanBell> !ask
[22:06] <AnonMasochist> AlanBell: look, I am talking to you right now with this machine, so that gives you a few clues.
[22:06] <mobius420> AlanBell,  I am using sudo, otherwise xampp would not run.
[22:06] <AlanBell> gives me the clue that it hasn't frozen for some time AnonMasochist
[22:06] <Lozzy_uk> no need to be sarcastic Anon
[22:06] <auronandace> AnonMasochist: how often does it freeze?
[22:07] <SVNDR> Ummmm.. my mouse isnt moving.. i just restarted my laptop after uninstalling UbuntuOne, and now my mouse isnt responding lol...
[22:07] <renemoraes> I'm using a Dell with 2 graphics card: Intel Sandybrigde and AMD Hd Radeon. But I'm not able to turn the intel ones off and just use AMD... is there a way to do that?
[22:08] <blitz> mhm
[22:08] <AlanBell> mobius420: ok, not sure then. If you just want a LAMP server I would do sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin which gets everything all set up and installs a GUI tool on http://localhost/phpmyadmin for poking about in the mysql database. Much easier for us to support than xampp
[22:08] <AnonMasochist> AlanBell: the freezing is usually triggered during the use of certain programs, I have identified Firefox,  Mixxx, and the game Warsow are the main triggers for the freeze, especially Warsow game.
[22:08] <mobius420> http://pastebin.com/MKsWBB8C
[22:08] <blitz> how do you get out of tty after doing ctr+alt+f1
[22:08] <mobius420> AlanBell,  http://pastebin.com/MKsWBB8C
[22:08] <dwatkins_> blitz: ctrl+alt+F7
[22:08] <blitz> wish I had known that :(
[22:08] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: ok, in that case, it is hitting bad ram, or it is overheating.
[22:09] <SVNDR> blitz: i did the same thing earlier haha
[22:09] <SVNDR> blitz: had to restart my laptop
[22:09] <AnonMasochist> it is definitely NOT any hardware!]
[22:09] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: how have you tested the temperature?
[22:09] <blitz> software could be reporting false negatives
[22:09] <auronandace> AnonMasochist: why are you so certain?
[22:09] <AnonMasochist> like I said, Linix Min as buggy as it is, had no problem with this hardware
[22:10] <AnonMasochist> Linux Mint*
[22:10] <blitz> false positives even
[22:10] <SVNDR> URGENT!!!!  my mouse isnt moving.. i just restarted my laptop after uninstalling UbuntuOne, and now my mouse isnt responding lol...
[22:10] <SVNDR> lol
[22:10] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: Linux Mint might manage the fans differently
[22:10] <AlanBell> mobius420: ok, that is trying to do https which will be grabbing port 443, not port 80
[22:10] <AlanBell> mobius420: running skype by any chance? that sometimes grabs ports like that
[22:11] <haylo> if your mouse isnt working after removing ubuntu one you need to install the program cheese
[22:11] <AlanBell> svndr: learn to love the keyboard, or take it out and plug it in again if it is a USB mouse
[22:11] <AnonMasochist> AlanBell: if you're so sure it's a hardware problem, of which I can confirm it is not, tell me what BASH commands you want the output of and I'll type them.
[22:12] <Lozzy_uk> nn all - good luck with your quests :)
[22:12] <mobius420> AlanBell,  it is a fresh install of ubuntu, I seem to remember finding a fix in the past to correct this problem but I am uable to remember how
[22:13] <mobius420> but thanks immensely for the pointers
[22:13] <glebihan> mobius420, if I may repeat myself, you should not use xampp
[22:13] <AlanBell> AnonMasochist: the way to test memory is boot a live CD and choose the memtest86 option from the menu before it boots, and leave it running for lots of hours
[22:13] <mobius420> glebihan,  I've been using xampp for over 5 years, it's a perfectly apache server which is easy to configure and work with. It would be couter-productive for me to switch servers at this pint
[22:14] <AlanBell> if you get red stuff, remove some ram and test again until you have isolated the bad stick
[22:14] <mobius420> but again thanks for the tips :)
[22:14] <glebihan> mobius420, apache is in the repos, and is just as easy to conifgure
[22:14] <mobius420> just a process conflict, I will get it sorted somehow :)
[22:14] <AlanBell> mobius420: it isn't switching servers, it is the same thing, but packaged and preconfigured
[22:14] <glebihan> mobius420, xampp=apache+mysql+php so it's the same thing
[22:15] <mobius420> glebihan,  oh okay
[22:15] <AnonMasochist> My Mini ITX system has a 120MM fan on the front, ans sufficient hard to find scaled down Akasa miniature up-right heatsink with fan and heatpipes, and right next to it, a PSU with a fan dragging out warm air. no overheating for and I3 with on-board graphics here!
[22:15] <cyxob> Hi. Can anybody point how to resolve a problem?  I have laptop emashines e525 with ubuntu 12.04 on a board. After booting the system after 10 minutes CPU fan starts to work endlessly on a max speed. I have checked CPU temp it's normal (around 50 degrees)
[22:15] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: run "watch sensors" in a teminal and start the offending applications, just to be sure (you might need to configure lm-sensors)
[22:16] <Chipzzz> AnonMasochist: there is the possibility of an overheating northbridge... but I just got here & don't know much about your problem
[22:17] <glebihan> !ubuntu+1 | cyxob
[22:17] <auronandace> Chipzzz: he's sure it isn't a hardware problem but hasn't really explained why he is so sure
[22:18] <AnonMasochist> wow I can't belive I've never heard of 'watch sensors' I've been needing a temperature sensor program for soo freakin' long!
[22:18] <gh0strider> does anyone here have any experience with setting u the globalsat usb gps device with ubuntu + gpsd ?
[22:18] <AnonMasochist> temp1:       +43.0C  (low  = +127.0C, high = +127.0C)  sensor = thermistor
[22:18] <AnonMasochist> temp2:       +25.0C  (low  = +127.0C, high = +127.0C)  sensor = thermistor
[22:18] <AnonMasochist> temp3:       +17.0C  (low  = +127.0C, high = +127.0C)  sensor = thermistor
[22:18] <lordjj> AnonMasochist but what are all those temps?
[22:18] <AnonMasochist> those mah temps.
[22:19] <dwatkins_> AnonMasochist: I mean to run it and examine the output whilst the machine "freezes"
[22:19] <AnonMasochist> that's the output of 'watch sensors'
[22:19] <Chipzzz> auronandace: it sounds like he has a lot invested in high end hardware... feels secure in its stability
[22:19] <AnonMasochist> I would imagine temp1 is the CPU
[22:19] <lordjj> AnonMasochist, I know I use it. But I have 6 different temps. What is all that stuff...
[22:19] <dwatkins_> "watch" will repeat the command every 2 seconds, AnonMasochist - you should be able to have it in another window and see it when running one or two of the applications which appear to lead to the "freeze"
[22:19] <_jason> blitz: alt-f7
[22:19] <dwatkins_> also, please don't paste to this channel, please use pastebin
[22:20] <sskalnik> Are the Server CDs "live" or just for installation? Basically, can I use one to get a shell and rescue a system?
[22:20] <_jason> sskalnik: I believe they are just for installation
[22:20] <AlanBell> sskalnik: not live
[22:21] <Chipzzz> sskalnik: you can get a shell & rescue prompt with a live cd
[22:21] <Chipzzz> ... sorry ... server cd
[22:21] <gh0strider> does anyone know of a tutorial for setting up the globalsat bu-353 for ubuntu?
[22:21] <AlanBell> or you can use a regular desktop live cd to do your rescuing
[22:22] <sskalnik> Cool, thanks
[22:22] <wxl> anyone familiar how to use apt (not aptitude) to figure out why a package was installed? i'm assuming apt-cache rdepends but it seems to pull up packages that i don't have installed. how do i limit it to only what i have installed?
[22:22] <_jason> wxl: you mean apt-get?
[22:22] <wxl> _jason: no but if you know a way to use apt-get to do it sure
[22:23] <_jason> wxl: I don't know what you mean by "apt"
[22:23] <wxl> _jason: apt-cache and apt-get are both part of apt
[22:23] <glebihan> wxl, why exactly don't you want to use aptitude for that ?
[22:23] <jbwiv> BussDriver, wow...so it's working with no special config. Cool...i'll give that a shot. thanks!
[22:23] <wxl> glebihan: because i don't freaking like it :D
[22:23] <TA5K> Hi, does anybody know a tool with which I can fill out PDF forms ?
[22:23] <glebihan> wxl, well, that's too bad because apt can't do that ;)
[22:24] <dot-slash> register password
[22:24] <wxl> glebihan: can't do that or you think it can't do it? let's remember apt(itude) is an apt front end
[22:24] <dot-slash> how do you register again? with nickserv?
[22:24] <_jason> !register | dot-slash
[22:24] <Seveas> wxl, try apt-get remove and say no to the confirmation. It'll show you what it wants to remove if you remove the package.
[22:24] <dot-slash> _jason, ty
[22:24] <glebihan> wxl, I'm pretty sure it can't
[22:24] <AlanBell> wxl: you can poke about in /var/log/apt to find out when it was installed
[22:24] <wxl> Seveas: that's one possibility but a risky one
[22:25] <Chipzzz> wxl: i would check your dependencies... it sounds like they aren't all met
[22:25] <wxl> Chipzzz: ?
[22:25] <BussDriver> jbwiv: correct, all defaults.
[22:25] <AlanBell> Chipzzz: not sure you are answering the same question there!
[22:25] <Seveas> wxl, no, not risky at all. apt-get will ask for a confirmation. YOu caould also do apt-get -n remove package foe a dry run
[22:25] <_jason> wxl: it's not really risky; you can make it less risky with the --simulate flag I guess
[22:25] <Jon--> Suspend works on laptop, hibernate does not. How do I adjust advanced power options for telling Ubuntu not to ever hibernate on idle?
[22:25] <Jon--> Don't find any setting in GUI
[22:25] <wxl> _jason: now there's an idea
[22:26] <wxl> there must be a better way to do this
[22:26] <Seveas> I mean apt-get -s remove
[22:26] <_jason> yeah, use aptitude :P
[22:26] <AnonMasochist> FUCK UBUNTU, I'M SWITCHIN' TO ANOTHER Linux BASED OS, AND AT THIS RATE, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, SO WITH MOST OTHER UBUNTU USERS, GOOD DAY, UBUNTU IS SCREWED!!!
[22:26] <AlanBell> Jon--: hibernate is being dropped altogether I think, except for whitelisted hardware
[22:26] <wxl> thx folx
[22:26] <Jon--> AlanBell, That doesn't help my current install...
[22:27] <dwatkins_> AlanBell: well, we tried to help
[22:27] <Chipzzz> wxl: "apt-cache rdepends but it seems to pull up packages that i don't have installed" suggests that you may have unsatisfied dependencies. Aptitude is very good at resolving such conflicts
[22:27] <Jon--> AlanBell, Thnx for update though
[22:27] <_jason> oops
[22:27] <lordjj> rage quit...
[22:28] <dwatkins_> lordjj: very much so :-/
[22:28] <Seveas> lordjj, hey, if that makes him feel better, so be it. Hope another distro at least keeps him on the free software side
[22:29] <zack> any subversion experts here?
[22:29] <Seveas> wouldn't call myself an expert, but shoot
[22:29] <dot-slash> hardly an expert, I know a little....
[22:29] <AlanBell> Jon--: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[22:29] <zack> I do a svn ci $filename
[22:29] <Jon--> Alan, 11.04
[22:29] <ZooMonkey> Hey all! I have a setup I'm required to run for a piece of hardware that needs setup. Near the end of it's setup, it runs- "rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" , which would remove my net rules. I am then told to reboot. Will rebooting auto-re-build the persistent.rules file??? Will my net work afterwords?
[22:30] <zack> and vim pops up with a diff every single time, I want to turn it off
[22:30] <_jason> zack: there's likely a subversion channel where you can ask for help
[22:30] <somsip> zack: svn ci -m "Message goes here"
[22:30] <Seveas> diff or list of files?
[22:30] <Chipzzz> ZooMonkey: I would put a copy of your rules file somewhere safe just in case
[22:31] <Seveas> haven't seen it pop up a diff, but popping up $EDITOR with a list of changed files is default behaviour as it wants a commit message. See somsip's message for a noninteractive way of doing that.
[22:31] <zack> yeah, it annoyingly splits the windows in vim and defaults to the non message window, something I want to turn off
[22:31] <dot-slash> zack, I usually just do: svn commit -m "my message"
[22:31] <ZooMonkey> it is also after the install of vnc. Would that make sense? Would setting up VNC need that to be changed I wonder?
[22:31] <bean> ZooMonkey: it should. That file just keeps track of the interfaces.
[22:31] <bean> And gets rebuilt on boot, pretty sure
[22:31] <zack> somsip, dot-slash nice tips cheers
[22:31] <Seveas> zack, hmm, I didn't know svn could do that, I'd like to turn that on :) Anyway, look through ~/.subversion
[22:31] <ZooMonkey> Chipzzz: Yeah not a bad idea
[22:32] <ZooMonkey> bean: OK, I had a suspicion it might. Thanks :)
[22:32] <Jon--> Alan, I'm attempting a suspend now for debugging. I'll let you know when I'm back
[22:33] <zack> Seveas, I can do it manually if I need it. But it can be a bit annoying because it highlights the wrong vim window meaning I have to C - W then navigate to it every time :(
[22:33] <Jon--> Alan, Back, only hibernate fails, suspend is fine.
[22:33] <Seveas> zack, maybe you installed a vim plugin that does this?
[22:34] <AlanBell> Jon--: http://linuxexpresso.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/disable-suspend-and-hibernate-ubuntu/
[22:34] <_jason> Seveas, zack: vim plugin would be my guess too
[22:36] <dr3mro> hello , when will firefox 9.0 and thunderbird 9.0 hit the ubuntu repositories ?
[22:36] <Jon--> AlanBell, Hopefully I am correct in hibernate being the problem and it's not something weird with having it suspended too long. Thanks
[22:36] <TA5K> As I see there is no simple FOSS GUI for adding annotions in PDFs
[22:37] <zack> hmmm, could be, I'll take a look
[22:38] <puff_> well now thats weird I could have sworn the update manager was in the dock yesterday it seems to have disappeared
[22:40] <nardev> is there any linux gnome/kda "auto mount" application? So taht i can mount images bin/iso/dmg etc just with click?
[22:40] <nardev> is there any linux gnome/kde "auto mount" application? So taht i can mount images bin/iso/dmg etc just with click?
[22:41] <zack> ah, just did mv ~/.vim ~/.vim_nope
[22:41] <zack> and its all fine
[22:42] <felipe_Brz> where can I obtain all dictionary files that come inside the */usr/share/dict* folder in ubuntu's in different languages??
[22:42] <zack> someone had sneaked a line into our shared vim configs, grrrrr
[22:42] <hiltonmagk> trying to install ubuntu 11.04 from USB and it keeps looking for a cdrom drive that I don't have please help
[22:45] <zack> hiltonmagk, sounds like your bios is set to boot from cd
[22:45] <glebihan> nardev, the "gvfs-backends" package provides a tool called "archive mounter" that can be used to mount such files. I know it works on gnome and integrates with nautilus, not sure about kde
[22:46] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagk: does it see the USB drive or does the bios just complain about no CD?
[22:46] <hiltonmagk> it's the Ubuntu install that complains
[22:46] <hiltonmagk> it boots right into the installer fine
[22:47] <zack> hiltonmagk, wow, that sound broke
[22:47] <hiltonmagk> lol you might say that
[22:47] <irocksu> hi
[22:48] <irocksu> what is the easiest way to setup a "global" ubuntu repositoy with a bunch of debs.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hiltonmagk: did you MD5 test the ISO you used?
[22:48] <irocksu> i want to reach it through my network, not with file://
[22:48] <trism> felipe_Brz: there are packages for several languages, such as wspanish, wpolish, wogerman: apt-cache search wordlist; seems to show most of them
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> irocksu: do you mean like a locel repo?
[22:49] <hiltonmagk> ActionParsnip: Yes
[22:49] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagk: so, when you try to run it as a live CD, it complains about no CD?
[22:49] <zack> hi, that svn/vim problem was caused by a sneaky file in ~/.vim/ftplugin/svn.vim
[22:49] <irocksu> ActionParsnip: yeah, but i do not want scanpackage
[22:49] <zack> all fixed now bwahahaha, thanks all
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> irocksu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocalAptGetRepository
[22:49] <mobius420> greetings #ubuntu
[22:50] <Seveas> irocksu, reprepro
[22:50] <meway> whats the most compatible http server with ubuntu?
[22:50] <felipe_Brz> trism:  oh cool thanks
[22:50] <hiltonmagk> Chipzzzz: I'm installing the server edition
[22:50] <yumbo> meway, lighttpd, apache or nginx would be perfect
[22:50] <dr3mro> hello , when will firefox 9.0 and thunderbird 9.0 hit the ubuntu repositories ?
[22:50] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagk: when does it complain about the lack of a CD?
[22:50] <meway> yumbo, something easy and does not take hours to configure
[22:50] <yumbo> meway, I found ligttpd to be very easy
[22:51] <meway> yumbo, works with php?
[22:51] <yumbo> sure
[22:51] <meway> mysql?
[22:51] <hiltonmagk> Chipzzz: When it's doing through the install steps I think after it detects keyboard settings
[22:51] <yumbo> meway, I think, yes
[22:52] <meway> yumbo, sudo apt-get "???"
[22:52] <yumbo> meway, lighttpd
[22:52] <irocksu> thanks guys i will look into your suggestions :)
[22:52] <yumbo> and for php and mysql: lighttpd mysql-client mysql-server php5-mysql php5-fpm
[22:53] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagk: hmm... that doesn't sound good. Can you burn the ISO to a CD?
[22:53] <meway> yumbo, forgot "install" deh >.<
[22:53] <hiltonmagk> I used Linux Live USB Creator if that means anything
[22:53] <mobius420> If anyone would be willing to help me identify an unknown webserver daemon running out of the box in ubuntu 11.04 please hit me up. So far no one can identify it
[22:53] <mobius420> 11.10 rather
[22:53] <hiltonmagk> Chipzzz: No CdRom Drive
[22:54] <itaylor57> mobius420, there is not webservice running by default on 11.10
[22:55] <SVNDR> How do i use the command 'pwmconfig' ? I have downloaded 'lm-sensors' which is supposed to activate that command, except i still cannot use it.. any suggestions?
[22:55] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagk: sounds like a problem in the USB creation... it might not have been expecting to be written to a USB stick & has hard-coded stuff requiring a CD
[22:55] <robbbie> SVNDR: did you run sensors-detect ?
[22:56] <tash> I thought the owner of a directory/file could chown that directory/file...
[22:56] <SVNDR> robbbie: yea i did, should i of configured something in there?
[22:56] <tash> however that doesn't seem to be true ...
[22:57] <tash> I have a web server script that creates dome directories and the ownership is www-data:www-data upon creation. I want to chang ownership, but it seems that the apache user (www-data) doesn't have permissions to do that
[22:57] <tash> even though the directory is 775 and www-data:www-data, can someone explain? Or, do I need to go to #ubuntu-server?
[22:58] <tash> argh, think I might have found my answer on the chown man page
[22:58] <_jason> tash: yes, only root can do that :)
[22:58] <SVNDR> robbbie: was there a certain question i was supposed to answer, YES or NO too?
[22:58] <tash> so, guess I'm left with creating a cron to do it instead of apache doing it all in one whack huh?
[22:58] <robbbie> SVNDR: don't think so i answered yes to everything i believe
[22:58] <robbbie> SVNDR: pwmconfig right?
[22:59] <SVNDR> robbbie: same, as i was told to.. still cannot run it though :\   yep pwmconfig
[22:59] <_jason> tash: you can either use ACLs or you can use setgid on the parent directory (assuming you can make the parent directory's group the group you want the files to belong to)
[22:59] <nardev> glebihan, THANK YOU
[22:59] <Zeraphing> am I lucky enough to have someone here in the room who knows how to get dual monitors to work with 11.10?
[22:59] <meway> anyone know much about legal rights to swf games and sites?
[22:59] <glebihan> nardev, you're welcome
[23:00] <_jason> meway: not an ubuntu support question
[23:00] <tash> _jason: the parent directory is set to the group I want
[23:00] <SVNDR> robbbie: think i know, might have to apt-get install fancontrol first
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> meway: try #legal or #law   something like that
[23:00] <_jason> tash: well if you just need the files in that directory to have group X when they are created (not recursively into subdirectories), then just setgid the directory
[23:00] <dr3mro> hello , when will firefox 9.0 and thunderbird 9.0 hit the ubuntu repositories ?
[23:00] <tash> so, /data/home/server_archive would be the parent directory in my case _jason
[23:00] <Guest5020> I am using 10.04
[23:00] <Guest5020> am I missing much my not updating?
[23:00] <tash> I need recursive in that server_archive directory
[23:00] <Guest5020> I am a student
[23:00] <Guest5020> just learning linux
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> Guest5020: yes, you are missing out on experience :)
[23:01] <_jason> Guest5020: try a live cd of 11.10 and see.  If you like 10.04, nothing wrong with using it while it is still supported
[23:01] <Chipzzz> hiltonmagK: I see the problem... it isn't intended for the server edition & wants libraries needed by the live CD
[23:01] <SVNDR> Guest5020: your missing out on having a burning hot CPU if your on a laptop.. from my exsperience (right now) anyways
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> Guest5020: imo if you want to learn linux dive into something harder than standard guis
[23:01] <meerkats> is there any way I can get rid of all the tags of 500 pictures in a simple manner?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: imagemagick should be able to
[23:02] <tash> _jason: so if I need /data/home/server_archive recursively set to blah:blahblah ... should I just set a cron to do that every so often or whatever?  Every time the script I'm talking about is invoked, new directories are created within server_archive with www-data:www-data
[23:02] <Guest5020> what linux distro is good for me then?
[23:02] <Guest5020> Arch?
[23:03] <jbendotnet> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu no longer has karmic - how do I update?
[23:03] <Teratogen> SLACKWARE UBER ALLES!
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> Guest5020: how much time do you have to spare?
[23:03] <_jason> tash: no, you should use ACLs
[23:03] <tash> dang, unfamilair with them ...
[23:03] <aeon-ltd> Guest5020: got an hour then try arch, it's a blank slate everything you want you have to get it yourself and configure it
[23:04] <SVNDR> /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed  got that result after running pwmconfig.. does that mean i dont have any fans.. or sensors? because i know i have a fan, i can hear it
[23:04] <SVNDR> wooops!!!
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !eol | jbendotnet
[23:04] <SVNDR> did not mean the underlines
[23:04] <Guest5020> but is it ok for a n00b
[23:05] <Guest5020> I have been using ubuntu for 2 years
[23:05] <Guest5020> I am getting the need to learn more
[23:05] <_jason> tash: just add the "acl" option in fstab to the corresponding partition, then give « man setfacl » and « man getfacl » a read
[23:05] <jbendotnet> ActionParsnip: cheers
[23:05] <jbendotnet> ActionParsnip: and doh
[23:05] <tash> _jason: thank you.
[23:05] <tash> I'll give that a shot later.
[23:06] <_jason> tash: I'm not aware of a good non-man-page reference for them, but you want to read about default ACLs
[23:07] <tash> what's the basic idea of an ACL?
[23:07] <tash> I'm used to an ACL in Cisco, not linux :P
[23:07] <Zeraphing> no one have any thoughts on dual monitors with 11.10?
[23:08] <_jason> tash: I'm not familiar with ACL in cisco.  Basically ACLs let you have permissions for more than one group/user and also let you set default permissions that are applied to files
[23:10] <robbbie> SVNDR: fancontrol package take care of it?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jbendotnet: personally I'd just clean install Oneiric or take a chance and install precise :)
[23:12] <umby213> 1;1;128;128;1;0x/close
[23:13] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm trying to install the gnome networkmanager applet in KDE, to see if it works better than the KDE one.  I'm on Kubuntu 11.10.
[23:13] <Laurenceb__> hi
[23:13] <Crell> In previous versions the package was nm-applet.  That doesn't seem to exist anymore.
[23:13] <Crell> What package(s) do I need here?
[23:13] <Laurenceb__> im trying to run cadsoft eagle - pcb editor
[23:13] <Laurenceb__> i can run it from the command line
[23:14] <Laurenceb__> but if i try to run it by double clicking, or the launcher menu, it fails
[23:14] <Laurenceb__> any ideas why?
[23:14] <SVNDR> robbbie: yeah, it did, but the feedback didnt look good... /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed  got that result after running pwmconfig.. does that mean i dont have any fans.. or sensors? because i know i have a fan, i can hear it
[23:14] <freeroute> Hi, when I connect to a 802.11g AP, does Ubuntu use iwlist and iwconfig utilities? Because I have trouble connecting using those through CLI
[23:14] <Glitchd> Laurenceb__, right click it and select properties, see what command its issuing to launch the program
[23:15] <robbbie> SVNDR: lack of adequate sensors possibly? really not sure
[23:15] <Laurenceb__> just the path to the binary
[23:15] <mouzdalifa> salem
[23:15] <mouzdalifa> hi !
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Crell: I suggest wicd instead, gnome network manager is the same app as the kde one but with a different frontend, so is testing nothing different
[23:15] <Glitchd> Laurenceb__, its the correct path?
[23:16] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Is that a gui, and does it handle vpns?
[23:16] <Laurenceb__> yes
[23:16] <Laurenceb__> i tried setting chmod a+x
[23:16] <mobius420> anyone know what could possibly be using port 443 out of the box in ubuntu?
[23:16] <Crell> In the past the kde network manager frontend was buggy with wifi and vpns, but the gnome one worked.  No idea why, but it did.
[23:16] <Glitchd> Laurenceb__, then check to make sure its marked as executable then
[23:16] <mobius420> https ?
[23:16] <mobius420> and if so how to stop it
[23:16] <SVNDR> robbbie: hoping so, well i downloaded a CPU throttle, but that doesnt seem to be helping eaither.. ive set it as low as possible, and it still heats up (no difference), turn it all the way to max, and the exact same thing
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Crell: afaik, yes
[23:17] <edbian> mobius420, get off your browser
[23:17] <robbbie> SVNDR: i remember i had a dell d410, pentium M cpu and that thing just ran hot in ubuntu.. that was like 7.04 probably
[23:18] <mobius420> edbian,  say what?
[23:18] <Crell> Hm.
[23:18] <Glitchd> Laurenceb__, ?
[23:18]  * Crell downloads.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> mobius420: try:  netstat -a | grep 443
[23:18] <edbian> mobius420, are you connected in your browser to any https sites?  then you're system will be using port 443 outgoing
[23:19] <SVNDR> robbbie: its doing my head in.. nothing i do is helping..  it gets that hot that it burns my skin to touch it
[23:19] <Laurenceb__> brb
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Crell: you can always use CLI to setup VPN if it doesn't
[23:19] <robbbie> SVNDR: when was the last time you ran windows on that machine?
[23:19]  * Crell twitches.
[23:19] <SVNDR> robbbie: about 2 days ago
[23:20] <robbbie> SVNDR: and heat was a nonissue ?
[23:20] <SVNDR> robbbie: non-exsistant would be a better word lol
[23:20] <SVNDR> robbbie: cool as a cucumber
[23:20] <SVNDR> lol
[23:21] <owenll> Crell: apt-get install network-manager-gnome then apt-get remove network-manager-kde then make the gnome one launch at boot-up
[23:22] <Pyrox> hello
[23:22] <edbian> Pyrox, hi
[23:22] <Glitchd> hello
[23:22] <Crell> owenll: But network-manager-gnome isn't executable.  At least when I try to run it on the command line it doesn't show up in tab completion.
[23:23] <atvr> is there a windows games emulator on ubuntu
[23:23] <Pyrox> can someone please tell me why my syslinux does not work with encryption neither md5 nor sha1?, my syslinux.cfg http://pastebin.com/Tjs3QExP
[23:23] <Crell> owenll: Confirmed, "command not found".
[23:23] <Glitchd> atvr, playonlinux?
[23:23] <Pyrox> hi edbian
[23:24] <Glitchd> atvr, google "playonlinux"
[23:24] <Glitchd> atvr, should be the first result
[23:24] <edbian> Pyrox, md5 and sha1 are hashing algorithms, NOT encryption
[23:25] <Pyrox> edbian, , u r right, but as u can see in the file Id put the hash as u said
[23:25] <mobius420>  I am trying to start my xampp server but I get an error message saying there is another webserver with SSL running on my computer. I have checked for Apache and httpd, but I am stuck. Xampp seems to be hamstrung  by whatever the problem may be
[23:25] <mobius420> nmap on the local host shows https on port 443 open
[23:25] <Pyrox> in the pastebin,sorry
[23:26] <Pyrox> edbian, do u notice any mistake in the file?,it works correctly, and also with pass but not with hash
[23:26] <edbian> Pyrox, I'm not sure
[23:26] <edbian> mobius420, can you show us the output of ps -e             here: paste.ubuntu.com
[23:26] <Crell> ActionParsnip: How does one run wicd?  When I try, all I get is a message "rename failed".
[23:27] <mobius420> edbian,  sure one moment  :)
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Crell: if you reboot, it will start at boot
[23:27] <Crell> Oh.
[23:27] <Crell> Do I need to uninstall knetworkmanager first?  Or just kill it after reboot?
[23:27] <Pyrox> thnx anyway edbian ,np
[23:27]  * Crell doesn't want to rip it out yet if he doesn't have to.
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Crell: I would, just for neatness
[23:27] <edbian> Pyrox, sure :)
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Crell: could reboot and test, if its bad then rip it out etc
[23:29] <mobius420> edbian,  here is the output   http://paste.ubuntu.com/793271/
[23:29] <mobius420> edbian,  PID 2342?
[23:29] <edbian> mobius420, reading...
[23:30] <xman> hi
[23:31] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Same error after reboot.
[23:32] <meerkats> where do I configure my mouse?
[23:32] <edbian> mobius420, I"m not sure what 2342 is, kill it
[23:32] <mobius420> edbian,  I killed pid 2342 and attempted to start my xampp server,  same result.
[23:33] <edbian> mobius420, I'm not sure what server it's seeing
[23:33] <edbian> mobius420, I don't see any listed here
[23:33] <mobius420> something is using port 443 and I do not know what
[23:33] <mobius420> edbian,  https
[23:33] <glebihan> mobius420, didn't you kill an apache process earlier ?
[23:33] <mobius420> glebihan,  mp
[23:33] <mobius420> glebihan,  no it werent me :P
[23:33] <edbian> mobius420, I know.  I don't see any process that I recognize as a server
[23:34] <mobius420> kk
[23:34] <mobius420> whatever it is, it's running out of the box
[23:34] <mobius420> a fresh install
[23:36] <jbendotnet> I was middway through do-release-upgrade and had a console malfunction - now when I try again I get "WARNING:root:estimate_kernel_size_in_boot() returned '0'?" and it just hangs
[23:36] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Any idea?
[23:37] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: you may have to do a clean install
[23:39] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: really? BUGGER
[23:40] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: sounds like you have data at risk...?
[23:41] <A-KO|lapt> We have an issue with 11.04 where we've got foobar running in Wine and whenever we change the stream in foobar it's changing the alsamixer settings. Does anyone else have any experience with this or know of a way to prevent that from happening?
[23:41] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: more a lack of time now to start from scratch
[23:42] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: happily, that's better than the alternative... a clean install usually only takes 1/2 hour or so
[23:42] <Chipzzz> ... rebuilding data can take much longer
[23:42] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: how does that affect all my installed libs etc?
[23:42] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: setting up servers again
[23:43] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: there is data on here
[23:44] <Pyrox> the command sha1pass or md5pass works for someone?
[23:45] <Chipzzz> jbednotnet: it depends on how the machine is configured... best to make a copy of /home somewhere else if you can before you start
[23:46] <Chipzzz> ...server configs are more difficult to save
[23:46] <nickmoeck> Hi. I've been having a weird problem for quite some time, I just now have time to investigate it... Occasionally, fonts in Firefox render partiall cut off.  You can see it in the lowercase u's in this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/M2ej1.png  Anyone know whats going on?
[23:47] <Chipzzz> nickmoeck: with luck, you may only have a corrupted font file
[23:48] <nickmoeck> Chipzzz: if it was a corrupted font file, it wouldn't still happen on a new install. And it only happens sometimes.
[23:48] <SilfenX> hello - is it possible to make ubuntu server provide indexing services for samba shares?
[23:48] <Chipzzz> nickmoeck: you are probably right... it's beginning to sound like a bad video card
[23:48] <user01> hi i am having problems with quicktime mov video playback from my canon camera . . . it is all green in VLC but windows VLC it works fine
[23:49] <Crell> ActionParsnip: Hm, OK, I have the wicd UI loading.  But when I try to connect to my access point it claims my password is bad.  I have confirmed I'm using the right one, however.
[23:49] <robbbie> 9/win 9
[23:49] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: once backed up, what's the process to install fresh?
[23:49] <user01> i get a gstreamer error if i try to play it in movieplayer
[23:50] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: is everything in one disk partition?
[23:50] <user01> and if i try to play it in dragon player i can see top half of video and bottom half is all green
[23:50] <Chipzzz> (except swap, of course)
[23:51] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: it's a VM
[23:51] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: a VPS
[23:53] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: you'll probably save the most data by installing from a server cd and before doing the actual install, rename /home, /etc, /opt, and /usr so that they won't get overwritten
[23:54] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: I have no access to a server cd
[23:54] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: I'm really annoyed with myself
[23:54] <jbendotnet> !
[23:55] <user01> is there another channel for codec issues?
[23:55] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: it doesn't sound like the crash was your fault... sometimes life throws you these curves
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> user01: have you install w32codes or w64codecs  from medibuntu repo?
[23:56] <A-KO|lapt> We have an issue with 11.10 where we've got foobar running in Wine and whenever we change the stream/file in foobar it's changing the alsamixer settings. Does anyone else have any experience with this or know of a way to prevent that from happening?
[23:57] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: so, assuming I can't install from a CD, how do I trigger a fresh install?
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> A-KO|lapt: ask in #winehq too
[23:57] <SVNDR> Is there anyway i can partition more space to Ubuntu after ive installed it? or will i have to reinstall it again?
[23:57]  * jbendotnet remembers about google
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: how did you install it?
[23:57] <user01> ActionParsnip: yes they are
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: wubi, VM, normal install (not wubi)
[23:57] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: with Wubi..
[23:57] <Quantum_Ion> jbendotnet, How do you get an asterik next to your name
[23:57] <user01> ActionParsnip: but it plays mov quicktime files green
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: hmm, not sure, let me see
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> user01: let me look into that
[23:58] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: thanks mate
[23:58] <wolfric> http://pastebin.com/faH1uV8e
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> user01: I've seen this
[23:58] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: is this a VM at a data center or on a machine at your location?
[23:58] <jbendotnet> Quantum_Ion: in irssi I do /me then say somethin
[23:58] <wolfric> any chance someone could take a look at this? http://pastebin.com/faH1uV8e libcurl coming out as the wrong option when i'm compiling from apt-get source transmission, dpkg -l shows the version is higher than required
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> user01: http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[23:58] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: at a datacentre
[23:59] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: I have no direct access
[23:59]  * Quantum_Ion thinking about a nice hot slice of pizza
[23:59] <Quantum_Ion> jbendotnet, Okay thanks
[23:59] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: though have console access which is like connecting in there, not SSH to the box
[23:59] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: it's a bit basic the console, hence why I fucked up the upgrade