[13:59] astraljava: sorry for not responding yet about the meeting, been traveling and also sick for several days, really starting to feel myself again today finally [13:59] astraljava: sure, i'll handle the meeting this weekend, also thank you for reminding me ;) [15:20] scott-work: Good, good. Yeah, I'm travelling myself at that time, and I'm not sure about the connectivity then. === shnatsel is now known as RandallMunroe === RandallMunroe is now known as shnatsek === shnatsek is now known as shnatsel [19:19] scott-work: Quick question about live DVDs. [19:21] How much memory to they require? If they are able to show people all the software US comes with tat sounds like a lot. US installed on the hard drive takes 4gig (about) [19:22] I guess I am asking if a live dvd is even doable for a machine with only 1 gig memory (or less) [19:23] 1GB RAM? [19:26] The size of the dvd doesn't matter if the computer has enough memory to run studio [19:26] The entire dvd won't load into memory [19:42] Ok, It is just that I was thinking about the live cds I have run and our dvd is already more than twice the size at almost 2G. [19:43] I don't remember for sure but it seems the ram disk was about 500mb. If we add the software as installed on the dvd, what size will the dvd end up? [19:58] len: check out dynebolic, or AVlinux [19:58] those are really similar to the size a live ubuntustudio would be [19:58] the size and performance probably [20:00] Ok. I guess to answer my question I should try one on one of these machines. Do you know if they work run off the USB stick? [20:00] len: should... though i have only tried an earlier version of AV from usb using unet [20:01] no reason why they shouldnt, though i wouldnt expect hybrid iso's [20:01] unless that is stated... [20:01] which is the better to try? In your opinion... [20:01] AV [20:02] thought the newest dynebolic is arguably more similar to US [20:02] the early db is quite amzing live [20:02] very out of date though [20:03] Seems everything is... just by looking at it. [20:03] That didn't come out right [20:03] It seems by the time I see anything it is out of date [20:04] hehe [20:04] i hear you... i just try and hop in the water somewhere and go along for the ride [20:05] I am finding out my MB is over 10yrs old... at least the internal sound is that outdted [20:09] Pre 2004 anyway [20:09] len: eh.. internal cards dont matter much anyways [20:09] len: i appreciate all your testing [20:09] and i like to keep an eye on older hardware [20:09] i hate discluding for no good reason [20:10] The AC97 is not much good for tracking due to sync issues. Some of them are ok at 48K though. I have a d66 instead. [20:12] My big thing right now is docs. We don't really have any at all. I am mostly putting together a collection of links. [20:13] its challenging [20:13] theres been a lot of fragmentation [20:14] and everyone's hardware case is differnt [20:14] per release [20:14] and sometimes, per kernel rev [20:14] makes working with different hardware, and having a definitive "how-to" challening to say the least [20:17] I try to make sure I say something about it not being definitive. But pointing to the right web site helps. [20:20] yeah, til alsa gets rev'd [20:20] or a kernel update breaks it [20:21] but... i dont want to be dark [20:21] its just challenging [20:23] What I found challenging, was searching for all these things with no direction. I hope to save someone some trouble. Should be good for as long as 12.04 goes though. [20:24] len: you are a gentleman and a scholar! [20:25] My next trick is to put it all in a package...