[13:59] <scott-work> astraljava: sorry for not responding yet about the meeting, been traveling and also sick for several days, really starting to feel myself again today finally
[13:59] <scott-work> astraljava: sure, i'll handle the meeting this weekend, also thank you for reminding me ;)
[15:20] <astraljava> scott-work: Good, good. Yeah, I'm travelling myself at that time, and I'm not sure about the connectivity then.
[19:19] <len> scott-work: Quick question about live DVDs.
[19:21] <len> How much memory to they require? If they are able to show people all the software US comes with tat sounds like a lot. US installed on the hard drive takes 4gig (about)
[19:22] <len> I guess I am asking if a live dvd is even doable for a machine with only 1 gig memory (or less)
[19:23] <micahg> 1GB RAM?
[19:26] <charlie-tca> The size of the dvd doesn't matter if the computer has enough memory to run studio
[19:26] <charlie-tca> The entire dvd won't load into memory
[19:42] <len> Ok, It is just that I was thinking about the live cds I have run and our dvd is already more than twice the size at almost 2G.
[19:43] <len> I don't remember for sure but it seems the ram disk was about 500mb. If we add the software as installed on the dvd, what size will the dvd end up?
[19:58] <holstein> len: check out dynebolic, or AVlinux
[19:58] <holstein> those are really similar to the size a live ubuntustudio would be
[19:58] <holstein> the size and performance probably
[20:00] <len> Ok.  I guess to answer my question I should try one on one of these machines. Do you know if they work run off the USB stick?
[20:00] <holstein> len: should... though i have only tried an earlier version of AV from usb using unet
[20:01] <holstein> no reason why they shouldnt, though i wouldnt expect hybrid iso's
[20:01] <holstein> unless that is stated...
[20:01] <len> which is the better to try? In your opinion...
[20:01] <holstein> AV
[20:02] <holstein> thought the newest dynebolic is arguably more similar to US
[20:02] <holstein> the early db is quite amzing live
[20:02] <holstein> very out of date though
[20:03] <len> Seems everything is... just by looking at it.
[20:03] <len> That didn't come out right
[20:03] <len>  It seems by the time I see anything it is out of date
[20:04] <holstein> hehe
[20:04] <holstein> i hear you... i just try and hop in the water somewhere and go along for the ride
[20:05] <len> I am finding out my MB is over 10yrs old... at least the internal sound is that outdted
[20:09] <len> Pre 2004 anyway
[20:09] <holstein> len: eh.. internal cards dont matter much anyways
[20:09] <holstein> len: i appreciate all your testing
[20:09] <holstein> and i like to keep an eye on older hardware
[20:09] <holstein> i hate discluding for no good reason
[20:10] <len> The AC97 is not much good for tracking due to sync issues. Some of them are ok at 48K though. I have a d66 instead.
[20:12] <len> My big thing right now is docs. We don't really have any at all. I am mostly putting together a collection of links.
[20:13] <holstein> its challenging
[20:13] <holstein> theres been a lot of fragmentation
[20:14] <holstein> and everyone's hardware case is differnt
[20:14] <holstein> per release
[20:14] <holstein> and sometimes, per kernel rev
[20:14] <holstein> makes working with different hardware, and having a definitive "how-to" challening to say the least
[20:17] <len> I try to make sure I say something about it not being definitive. But pointing to the right web site helps.
[20:20] <holstein> yeah, til alsa gets rev'd
[20:20] <holstein> or a kernel update breaks it
[20:21] <holstein> but... i dont want to be dark
[20:21] <holstein> its just challenging
[20:23] <len> What I found challenging, was searching for all these things with no direction. I hope to save someone some trouble. Should be good for as long as 12.04 goes though.
[20:24] <holstein> len: you are a gentleman and a scholar!
[20:25] <len> My next trick is to put it all in a package...