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jmcantrelli noticed that the evince thumbnailer is setup to handle thumbnails for cbr/cbz file and it appears to work if you run it manually, but thunar doesn't show the thumbnails. anyone know what the problem might be?01:49
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slevin77good morning09:29
Marzataexactly?09:38
slevin77somebody can help me on how to switch between multiple wallpaper pics in xfce?09:47
TheSheepslevin77: go to desktop settings and select a different picture?09:50
MarzataTheSheep: best!09:50
TheSheepMarzata: may I help you?09:50
MarzataTheSheep: but you already did :)09:51
slevin77TheSheep: i mean automatically.... :)09:52
TheSheepslevin77: when do you want them to change?09:53
slevin77switch every 5 minutes for example09:53
TheSheepslevin77: ok, set a list of pictures in the desktop settings09:53
slevin77already done09:53
slevin77crontab?09:53
TheSheepslevin77: then send the USR1 signal to xfdesktop every 5 minutes from cron09:54
slevin77ok09:54
slevin77thank you09:54
TheSheepslevin77: somethning like  killall -USR1 xfdesktop09:54
slevin77*/20 * * * * DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/xfdesktop --reload >/dev/null 2>&109:54
slevin77i think this will do the job09:54
slevin77;) thank you so much09:54
TheSheepslevin77: that will unnecessarily restart it09:54
slevin77ummm09:55
slevin77what do you suggest?09:55
TheSheepthe USR1 signal will make it just load a new image09:55
slevin77killall -USR1 xfdesktop?09:56
TheSheepyeah09:56
TheSheephere is a ready recipe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32879209:56
slevin77wrote this in cron.txt:09:59
slevin77*/1 * * * * killall -USR1 xfdesktop  >/dev/null 2>&109:59
slevin77but nothing happens09:59
slevin77previous solution works for me10:00
TheSheepwhat happens when you do that command by hand in the terminal?10:00
slevin77i'll try now10:00
TheSheepwithout the redirects to dev null10:00
slevin77killall -USR1 xfdesktop does nothing10:01
TheSheephow about killall -SIGHUP xfdesktop?10:01
slevin77yes it will change wallpaper but with a ugly grey screen between pictures10:03
slevin77reloading works better10:11
slevin77bye bye11:40
nicolas_hola??11:54
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nipolar???11:55
nipolar???11:56
nipolarhola?11:56
Sysi!es11:57
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. Si nadie responde allí puedes intentar preguntando en #ubuntu-es.11:57
nipolargracias!12:00
Marzataenom or godaddy?13:01
TheSheepMarzata: in case you didn't hear yet, http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nmnie/godaddy_supports_sopa_im_transferring_51_domains/13:20
TheSheepMarzata: also, this is a support channel for xubuntu13:20
go8765hello. can anybody help me with vuze on xubuntu. this-is log http://paste.ubuntu.com/792696/13:46
go8765anybody here?13:55
holsteingo8765: lots of folks here... might just need to wait a bit :)13:57
holsteinother than suggesing transmission, i can only guess at what might be the issue... maybe try reinstalling, try finding a newer version...14:00
_Pete_go8765: which java are you using?14:01
holsteinim sure you have already seen http://forum.vuze.com/thread.jspa?messageID=24489014:01
go8765_Pete_, I think-sun14:02
_Pete_I use sun-java and vuze installed from repositories with apt-get and works without problem14:02
go8765_Pete_, my vuze always work well too? but two days ago it have this problem14:04
go8765holstein, so the solution is in installing old xulrunner ?14:05
holsteingo8765: im uncertain what the 'solution' will be... i can only suggest things to help troubleshoot... i use transmission14:06
holsteinhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/14:06
holsteini was under the impression that when you upgrade your packages, java is removed... but if thats is not what _Pete_ is finding...14:07
hobgoblinpretty sure I got that happen here holstein14:07
_Pete_I'm using custom installed Java anyway14:08
hobgoblinand would have been a few days ago14:08
holsteinhobgoblin: in 11.10?... that article suggests 11.10 is not on the list, but i thought it was14:08
hobgoblinyep - 11.10 here14:08
hobgoblinI certainly needed to deal with java yesterday14:08
hobgoblinthough I installed icedtea instead - works for what I need14:09
holsteingo8765: this would be the first thing i would tackle... it wont hurt to confirm you have sun-java, and that it has been removed, and move on to the openJDK or whatever... or icedtea ^^14:09
go8765holstein, i dont update my ubuntu and now i use sun java. it dont removed now, I think14:11
holsteingo8765: sure... it wont hurt to fire up something like synaptic and confirm14:12
_Pete_better is do: java -version14:12
olbi.j #xubuntu-devel14:13
go8765java -version14:13
go8765java version "1.6.0_26"14:13
go8765Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03)14:13
go8765Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)14:13
_Pete_jeah that's sun/oracle java14:13
_Pete_I am however using the latest 1.7.0_0214:14
_Pete_dont know if that matters14:14
go8765_Pete_,  O_o ok. I try to find some ppa14:14
go8765to update my java. thanks14:15
go8765_Pete_, how you install the latest version of java? :)14:33
go8765and workthe latest javawith Libre Office or not?14:36
_Pete_well as said I have custom install of JDK as I use it for development too14:37
_Pete_not sure how it "should" be installed14:37
_Pete_but basicly lke this: download the JRE archive from oracle, extract it (I use /opt). then add the extracted jdk.../bin to PATH14:39
_Pete_and put JAVA_HOME to point that jdk... dir14:40
go8765thanks. I found in google another solution :)14:40
Kurdistanhi tips to xubuntu team. add lxmed: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxmed/14:54
Kurdistanfor editing xubuntu menu14:54
kora-chanhey guys, was wondering if anybody knows where to change the dual monitor mode in xubuntu. i'm using 2 monitors on my intel hd3000 (so no nvidia control panel ;)) on my x220. both monitors work fine, but they are in mirror mode. i want the desktop to be extended rather then mirrored. in display menu i can only activeate/deactivate or rotate the outputs but it seems i cannot tell xfce how to distribute the desktop. an16:26
holsteinkora-chan: i use arandr16:27
holsteini find no natively installed GUI way to extend rather than mirror16:27
kora-chanholstein: is it a successor to xrandr? i remember i have used that several years ago16:28
holsteinkora-chan: im sure its just another frontend16:28
SysiGUI for xrandr16:28
kora-chanSysi, holstein: thx gonna try that16:28
kora-chanSysi, holstein: xrandr was a bit dodgy when i used it, but then again, that was 4 or so years ago ;)16:29
holsteinkora-chan: i think you'll find arandr does the trick... fire it up and look in the menu under 'outputs' if the external monitor is not showing up there16:30
kora-chanholstein: nice one, nearly perfect16:32
holsteinkora-chan: thats exatly what i thought about it... "nearly" perfect... hehe16:33
kora-chanholstein: it seems it always uses the leftmost screen as main, i rather had the right one as main since its a bit larger, but thats not a big issue.16:35
holsteinkora-chan: i think dragging them around and re-arranging them does that, though i forget how extensively i tested16:36
SysiEarly man is something knome doesn't hate? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ4Qxp5VT017:08
Sysiwhops, offtopic17:08
|Slacker|this is weird, my touchpad has edge scrolling and 2 finger scrolling enabled at the same time17:12
Sysiwould you like to get rid of either one?17:13
holsteinmine does too :)17:13
|Slacker|Sysi, yep17:14
|Slacker|I prefer 2 finger scrolling17:14
Sysisynclient HorizEdgeScroll=017:15
Sysithat in terminal, if it works put it to settings -> sessions and startup -> autostart17:15
|Slacker|worked fine, thanks17:16
amonalalguien habla español?17:57
Sysi!es17:57
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fingerHello, I've got some questions regarding using Xubuntu. Can I ask them here?18:29
GridCube!ask18:29
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fingerThanks18:30
fingerOk, first I have a weird problem. I've got a notebook and I hate using touchpad, I usually add it to the blacklist and use "external" USB Mouse. The problem is double click on window title with touchpad maximizes it ok, but double click with mouse is not working.18:31
fingerHow to fix that?18:31
Sysitry clicking really fast18:32
fingerHm... It helped, thanks18:35
fingerOk, I adjusted my double click time. Shame on me, lol, that was easy18:37
Sysiactually it's about hitting exactly same pixel18:38
fingerNope, it was about speed18:38
fingerDefault 250 ms is too fast for me, I set it to 400 ms and everything is ok now18:39
Sysiset it back and then raise mouse off table18:40
fingerIt's not working now again, take my word for it )18:41
Sysimhm18:41
fingerI'm not moving my mouse, I'm just not that fast with my fingers, my nickname is not fast_finger )18:42
fingerSo, move onto next problem, which annoys me very much. Is there a way to change at least active/inactive window title color? In "Appeareance" section in settings manager there is no color options at all18:47
GridCubetheres probably a way yes, but it would involve touching the theme scripts18:48
Sysibesides changing theme, not18:48
GridCubeyou can try other themes18:48
Sysiwindow manager theme is set in window manager settings18:48
fingerIn window manager settings I see only title font, alignment and no color managint at all18:49
Sysithe list on the left18:49
SysiI told there's no way to change colors like that, but you set window manager theme there, not in appearance settings18:50
fingerOk, I don't see a problem with changing theme scripts, where are they located?18:53
Sysiwell, they're not scripts, gtk theme is is some weird files and window manager theme is just image files18:53
fingerOk, I found the PNG-s18:56
fingerI'll try to replace the active title ones18:56
|Slacker|I wonder why xubuntu stil ships crappy brasero rather than great xfburn18:57
Sysixfburn is kinda dying, not developed anymore18:58
hobgoblindidn't here18:58
Sysiwhat version do you mean anyway, 10.04 which is old?18:58
hobgoblinI've not got brasero18:58
|Slacker|pitty to hear that18:59
charlie-tca10.10 and 11.04 and 11.10 shipped with xfburn18:59
|Slacker|brasero never worked for me, IMHO it's just a piece of  crappy software, brasero should be abandoned and not xfburn18:59
|Slacker|charlie-tca, I have 11.10 here and it ships brasero18:59
charlie-tcaYou can remove brasero and install xfburn yourself19:00
Sysibrasero is gnome, probably ~never going to die19:00
charlie-tca11.10 did not seed brasero. It was shipped with xfburn19:00
charlie-tcaIf you upgraded, then you kept brasero, if you did a new install, you got xfburn19:01
|Slacker|that's what I'm doing right now, deleting brasero, installing xfburn19:01
fingerOh, they are all transparent with some crazy gradients, I will save it for later than..19:02
fingerOk, I think last question for me today. Is there menu editor application for xfce like a gnome's "Main menu"?19:03
Sysiyeah, alacarte, you want to install it with "apt-get --no-install-recommends alacarte"19:04
fingerOh, yeah, thanks. Need to disable installation of recommended packages in apt.conf19:07
fingerWow, except the color of window titles I can have nice things so fast with XFCE. Feels so good just to use system back again and not wage war with window manager.19:16
fingerOh, one more question19:29
fingerIs there an official PPA repository for XFCE? I was unable to find one on the web-site.19:30
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mongyI wish there was a decent burning app without installing a shedload of kde libs20:18
hobgoblinxfburn works fine for me20:19
hobgoblindepends what you want from an app I guess20:19
mongymore than what xfburn does :)20:22
hobgoblinlol20:22
mongyif im gonna drop to shell just to make an iso, I might as well burn files from it too.20:23
hobgoblindid you try installing k3b with --no-recommends20:24
hobgoblinI assume that's the app you are talkign about anyway :)20:24
Sysiyou only need kdelibs5 once, then you can use all Qt awesomeness with very little extra20:27
mongy:)20:29
mongythere is 5mb difference between with/without recommends.20:32
mongyexpected a little more20:32
knomerecommends is not suggests :)20:33
hobgoblinmade an enormous difference to installing alacarte :p20:33
knomewell yeah. that's considerd a bug20:33
mongyalacarte isnt k3b20:33
hobgoblinindeed not20:39
xGrindalacarte without suggests20:41
xGrindhttp://xgrind.webnode.com.br/news/editor-de-menu-para-xfce-xubuntu-11-10-/20:41
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Arpad2pls, could smb tell me how to change windows using just the keyboard21:49
Sysialt tab21:49
Sysior change it to whatever you want in windowmanager settings21:50
Arpad2thanks Sysi :)21:50
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snipiüdv mindenkinek22:23
GridCubeno idea what lenguage that is22:26
Sysiguessing hungarian22:26
snipisorry  :)22:27
GridCube!hg22:27
GridCube!hu22:27
ubottuMagyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál22:27
GridCube?22:27
GridCubeno problem snipi :)22:28
snipiTHX for help22:28
GridCube:) if you want to ask in english we can help you too22:29
frank__hiho guys22:31
GridCube!hi22:31
ubottuHi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!22:31
frank__i there a compiz problem with Xubuntu 11.10 ?22:32
GridCubethere will probably be many, yes22:32
GridCubei guess22:32
frank__dam22:32
GridCubefrank__, question 9: http://wp.xubuntu.org/articles/faq-1110-oneiric/22:32
frank__i know to install and use compiz22:33
Sysibasically no, you just need to have compiz-gnome installed and maybe set compiz to use gtk-window-decorator (and set theme with gconf-editor)22:33
frank__but on 11.10 it makes heavy performance trouble22:34
frank__xorg have a high cpu load22:34
Sysiwhat graphics card/driver?22:34
frank__Sysi: i have do this22:34
frank__nv 330m22:34
frank__driver current from Additional Hardware manager22:34
Sysireboot or relogin, or did you try that already22:35
frank__sure22:35
frank__i have 100% xorg load22:36
frank__after --replace22:36
frank__whats the best place to auto startup compiz --replace ?22:37
GridCubeit should replace it forever22:38
frank__who ?22:38
Sysirm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and save session on logout22:38
GridCubethe --replace, once done, it should have replaced xfwm422:38
frank__ah ok22:39
Sysino, it just once kills xfwm4 and starts compiz22:39
Sysisession managment does the rest and is nicer than doing that switch on every login22:39
frank__how to kills the xfwm ?22:40
Sysisending right kind of signal to process22:40
frank__ok22:40
frank__thx guys i will try it22:40
frank__how can i save the session ?22:42
frank__Sysi:22:43
Sysiwhen you get logout prompt, there's tap on the bottom22:44
Sysiand I think it happens automatically when you use the default thingy in panel22:44
frank__ah ok, im new at xfce22:44
frank__ok know it better. But not ok.22:51
frank__compiz is running and xorg have at window moving 20-30% load22:52
frank__and compiz at same time 15%22:52
Marzatahow does xubuntu compare to freebsd+xfce?22:54
GridCubeno idea23:02
Unit193Linux and BSD differ quite a lot23:03
Sysipretty much evertything but folder structure is different23:04
Sysitons more setting up fbsd23:04
frank__i have notifiy if i restart comiz (with Fusion icon) i have 2-5 sec normally speed and CPU load. after this xorg high load23:04
frank__k23:13
HTN-Kitsunehello, i am having an issue. both Chromium and Fire Fox want to download .php instead of viewing them on websites. This is both preventing me from working on testing php on my website and visiting other websites. Anyone know how to fix this?23:50
lordjjHTN-Kitsune only for your php files that are on your pc? or ones on the internet too?23:51
HTN-Kitsuneboth23:51
GridCubeHTN-Kitsune, that happens to me when im having really slow conection problems23:51
lordjjHTN-Kitsune if it's on your pc it needs to be in /var/www/23:52
HTN-Kitsuneit is23:52
lordjjDon't know then23:53
lordjjOpera?23:53
HTN-Kitsunelet me download that and try.23:53
HTN-Kitsuneok, i tried it in the Arora web browser and php is displayed online instead of downloaded. let me grab opera using it.23:57

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