[00:22]  * fawxy was formerly fennec, however am now here again
[00:23]  * fawxy is now registered :D
[00:24]  * fawxy says hallo
[01:49] <jmcantrell> i noticed that the evince thumbnailer is setup to handle thumbnails for cbr/cbz file and it appears to work if you run it manually, but thunar doesn't show the thumbnails. anyone know what the problem might be?
[09:29] <slevin77> good morning
[09:38] <Marzata> exactly?
[09:47] <slevin77> somebody can help me on how to switch between multiple wallpaper pics in xfce?
[09:50] <TheSheep> slevin77: go to desktop settings and select a different picture?
[09:50] <Marzata> TheSheep: best!
[09:50] <TheSheep> Marzata: may I help you?
[09:51] <Marzata> TheSheep: but you already did :)
[09:52] <slevin77> TheSheep: i mean automatically.... :)
[09:53] <TheSheep> slevin77: when do you want them to change?
[09:53] <slevin77> switch every 5 minutes for example
[09:53] <TheSheep> slevin77: ok, set a list of pictures in the desktop settings
[09:53] <slevin77> already done
[09:53] <slevin77> crontab?
[09:54] <TheSheep> slevin77: then send the USR1 signal to xfdesktop every 5 minutes from cron
[09:54] <slevin77> ok
[09:54] <slevin77> thank you
[09:54] <TheSheep> slevin77: somethning like  killall -USR1 xfdesktop
[09:54] <slevin77> */20 * * * * DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/xfdesktop --reload >/dev/null 2>&1
[09:54] <slevin77> i think this will do the job
[09:54] <slevin77> ;) thank you so much
[09:54] <TheSheep> slevin77: that will unnecessarily restart it
[09:55] <slevin77> ummm
[09:55] <slevin77> what do you suggest?
[09:55] <TheSheep> the USR1 signal will make it just load a new image
[09:56] <slevin77> killall -USR1 xfdesktop?
[09:56] <TheSheep> yeah
[09:56] <TheSheep> here is a ready recipe: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=328792
[09:59] <slevin77> wrote this in cron.txt:
[09:59] <slevin77> */1 * * * * killall -USR1 xfdesktop  >/dev/null 2>&1
[09:59] <slevin77> but nothing happens
[10:00] <slevin77> previous solution works for me
[10:00] <TheSheep> what happens when you do that command by hand in the terminal?
[10:00] <slevin77> i'll try now
[10:00] <TheSheep> without the redirects to dev null
[10:01] <slevin77> killall -USR1 xfdesktop does nothing
[10:01] <TheSheep> how about killall -SIGHUP xfdesktop?
[10:03] <slevin77> yes it will change wallpaper but with a ugly grey screen between pictures
[10:11] <slevin77> reloading works better
[11:40] <slevin77> bye bye
[11:54] <nicolas_> hola??
[11:55] <nipolar> ???
[11:56] <nipolar> ???
[11:56] <nipolar> hola?
[11:57] <Sysi> !es
[12:00] <nipolar> gracias!
[13:01] <Marzata> enom or godaddy?
[13:20] <TheSheep> Marzata: in case you didn't hear yet, http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nmnie/godaddy_supports_sopa_im_transferring_51_domains/
[13:20] <TheSheep> Marzata: also, this is a support channel for xubuntu
[13:46] <go8765> hello. can anybody help me with vuze on xubuntu. this-is log http://paste.ubuntu.com/792696/
[13:55] <go8765> anybody here?
[13:57] <holstein> go8765: lots of folks here... might just need to wait a bit :)
[14:00] <holstein> other than suggesing transmission, i can only guess at what might be the issue... maybe try reinstalling, try finding a newer version...
[14:01] <_Pete_> go8765: which java are you using?
[14:01] <holstein> im sure you have already seen http://forum.vuze.com/thread.jspa?messageID=244890
[14:02] <go8765> _Pete_, I think-sun
[14:02] <_Pete_> I use sun-java and vuze installed from repositories with apt-get and works without problem
[14:04] <go8765> _Pete_, my vuze always work well too? but two days ago it have this problem
[14:05] <go8765> holstein, so the solution is in installing old xulrunner ?
[14:06] <holstein> go8765: im uncertain what the 'solution' will be... i can only suggest things to help troubleshoot... i use transmission
[14:06] <holstein> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-removed-from-ubuntu-uninstalled-from-user-machines/
[14:07] <holstein> i was under the impression that when you upgrade your packages, java is removed... but if thats is not what _Pete_ is finding...
[14:07] <hobgoblin> pretty sure I got that happen here holstein
[14:08] <_Pete_> I'm using custom installed Java anyway
[14:08] <hobgoblin> and would have been a few days ago
[14:08] <holstein> hobgoblin: in 11.10?... that article suggests 11.10 is not on the list, but i thought it was
[14:08] <hobgoblin> yep - 11.10 here
[14:08] <hobgoblin> I certainly needed to deal with java yesterday
[14:09] <hobgoblin> though I installed icedtea instead - works for what I need
[14:09] <holstein> go8765: this would be the first thing i would tackle... it wont hurt to confirm you have sun-java, and that it has been removed, and move on to the openJDK or whatever... or icedtea ^^
[14:11] <go8765> holstein, i dont update my ubuntu and now i use sun java. it dont removed now, I think
[14:12] <holstein> go8765: sure... it wont hurt to fire up something like synaptic and confirm
[14:12] <_Pete_> better is do: java -version
[14:13] <olbi> .j #xubuntu-devel
[14:13] <go8765> java -version
[14:13] <go8765> java version "1.6.0_26"
[14:13] <go8765> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_26-b03)
[14:13] <go8765> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 20.1-b02, mixed mode, sharing)
[14:13] <_Pete_> jeah that's sun/oracle java
[14:14] <_Pete_> I am however using the latest 1.7.0_02
[14:14] <_Pete_> dont know if that matters
[14:14] <go8765> _Pete_,  O_o ok. I try to find some ppa
[14:15] <go8765> to update my java. thanks
[14:33] <go8765> _Pete_, how you install the latest version of java? :)
[14:36] <go8765> and workthe latest javawith Libre Office or not?
[14:37] <_Pete_> well as said I have custom install of JDK as I use it for development too
[14:37] <_Pete_> not sure how it "should" be installed
[14:39] <_Pete_> but basicly lke this: download the JRE archive from oracle, extract it (I use /opt). then add the extracted jdk.../bin to PATH
[14:40] <_Pete_> and put JAVA_HOME to point that jdk... dir
[14:40] <go8765> thanks. I found in google another solution :)
[14:54] <Kurdistan> hi tips to xubuntu team. add lxmed: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lxmed/
[14:54] <Kurdistan> for editing xubuntu menu
[16:26] <kora-chan> hey guys, was wondering if anybody knows where to change the dual monitor mode in xubuntu. i'm using 2 monitors on my intel hd3000 (so no nvidia control panel ;)) on my x220. both monitors work fine, but they are in mirror mode. i want the desktop to be extended rather then mirrored. in display menu i can only activeate/deactivate or rotate the outputs but it seems i cannot tell xfce how to distribute the desktop. an
[16:27] <holstein> kora-chan: i use arandr
[16:27] <holstein> i find no natively installed GUI way to extend rather than mirror
[16:28] <kora-chan> holstein: is it a successor to xrandr? i remember i have used that several years ago
[16:28] <holstein> kora-chan: im sure its just another frontend
[16:28] <Sysi> GUI for xrandr
[16:28] <kora-chan> Sysi, holstein: thx gonna try that
[16:29] <kora-chan> Sysi, holstein: xrandr was a bit dodgy when i used it, but then again, that was 4 or so years ago ;)
[16:30] <holstein> kora-chan: i think you'll find arandr does the trick... fire it up and look in the menu under 'outputs' if the external monitor is not showing up there
[16:32] <kora-chan> holstein: nice one, nearly perfect
[16:33] <holstein> kora-chan: thats exatly what i thought about it... "nearly" perfect... hehe
[16:35] <kora-chan> holstein: it seems it always uses the leftmost screen as main, i rather had the right one as main since its a bit larger, but thats not a big issue.
[16:36] <holstein> kora-chan: i think dragging them around and re-arranging them does that, though i forget how extensively i tested
[17:08] <Sysi> Early man is something knome doesn't hate? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ4Qxp5VT0
[17:08] <Sysi> whops, offtopic
[17:12] <|Slacker|> this is weird, my touchpad has edge scrolling and 2 finger scrolling enabled at the same time
[17:13] <Sysi> would you like to get rid of either one?
[17:13] <holstein> mine does too :)
[17:14] <|Slacker|> Sysi, yep
[17:14] <|Slacker|> I prefer 2 finger scrolling
[17:15] <Sysi> synclient HorizEdgeScroll=0
[17:15] <Sysi> that in terminal, if it works put it to settings -> sessions and startup -> autostart
[17:16] <|Slacker|> worked fine, thanks
[17:57] <amonal> alguien habla español?
[17:57] <Sysi> !es
[18:29] <finger> Hello, I've got some questions regarding using Xubuntu. Can I ask them here?
[18:29] <GridCube> !ask
[18:30] <finger> Thanks
[18:31] <finger> Ok, first I have a weird problem. I've got a notebook and I hate using touchpad, I usually add it to the blacklist and use "external" USB Mouse. The problem is double click on window title with touchpad maximizes it ok, but double click with mouse is not working.
[18:31] <finger> How to fix that?
[18:32] <Sysi> try clicking really fast
[18:35] <finger> Hm... It helped, thanks
[18:37] <finger> Ok, I adjusted my double click time. Shame on me, lol, that was easy
[18:38] <Sysi> actually it's about hitting exactly same pixel
[18:38] <finger> Nope, it was about speed
[18:39] <finger> Default 250 ms is too fast for me, I set it to 400 ms and everything is ok now
[18:40] <Sysi> set it back and then raise mouse off table
[18:41] <finger> It's not working now again, take my word for it )
[18:41] <Sysi> mhm
[18:42] <finger> I'm not moving my mouse, I'm just not that fast with my fingers, my nickname is not fast_finger )
[18:47] <finger> So, move onto next problem, which annoys me very much. Is there a way to change at least active/inactive window title color? In "Appeareance" section in settings manager there is no color options at all
[18:48] <GridCube> theres probably a way yes, but it would involve touching the theme scripts
[18:48] <Sysi> besides changing theme, not
[18:48] <GridCube> you can try other themes
[18:48] <Sysi> window manager theme is set in window manager settings
[18:49] <finger> In window manager settings I see only title font, alignment and no color managint at all
[18:49] <Sysi> the list on the left
[18:50] <Sysi> I told there's no way to change colors like that, but you set window manager theme there, not in appearance settings
[18:53] <finger> Ok, I don't see a problem with changing theme scripts, where are they located?
[18:53] <Sysi> well, they're not scripts, gtk theme is is some weird files and window manager theme is just image files
[18:56] <finger> Ok, I found the PNG-s
[18:56] <finger> I'll try to replace the active title ones
[18:57] <|Slacker|> I wonder why xubuntu stil ships crappy brasero rather than great xfburn
[18:58] <Sysi> xfburn is kinda dying, not developed anymore
[18:58] <hobgoblin> didn't here
[18:58] <Sysi> what version do you mean anyway, 10.04 which is old?
[18:58] <hobgoblin> I've not got brasero
[18:59] <|Slacker|> pitty to hear that
[18:59] <charlie-tca> 10.10 and 11.04 and 11.10 shipped with xfburn
[18:59] <|Slacker|> brasero never worked for me, IMHO it's just a piece of  crappy software, brasero should be abandoned and not xfburn
[18:59] <|Slacker|> charlie-tca, I have 11.10 here and it ships brasero
[19:00] <charlie-tca> You can remove brasero and install xfburn yourself
[19:00] <Sysi> brasero is gnome, probably ~never going to die
[19:00] <charlie-tca> 11.10 did not seed brasero. It was shipped with xfburn
[19:01] <charlie-tca> If you upgraded, then you kept brasero, if you did a new install, you got xfburn
[19:01] <|Slacker|> that's what I'm doing right now, deleting brasero, installing xfburn
[19:02] <finger> Oh, they are all transparent with some crazy gradients, I will save it for later than..
[19:03] <finger> Ok, I think last question for me today. Is there menu editor application for xfce like a gnome's "Main menu"?
[19:04] <Sysi> yeah, alacarte, you want to install it with "apt-get --no-install-recommends alacarte"
[19:07] <finger> Oh, yeah, thanks. Need to disable installation of recommended packages in apt.conf
[19:16] <finger> Wow, except the color of window titles I can have nice things so fast with XFCE. Feels so good just to use system back again and not wage war with window manager.
[19:29] <finger> Oh, one more question
[19:30] <finger> Is there an official PPA repository for XFCE? I was unable to find one on the web-site.
[20:18] <mongy> I wish there was a decent burning app without installing a shedload of kde libs
[20:19] <hobgoblin> xfburn works fine for me
[20:19] <hobgoblin> depends what you want from an app I guess
[20:22] <mongy> more than what xfburn does :)
[20:22] <hobgoblin> lol
[20:23] <mongy> if im gonna drop to shell just to make an iso, I might as well burn files from it too.
[20:24] <hobgoblin> did you try installing k3b with --no-recommends
[20:24] <hobgoblin> I assume that's the app you are talkign about anyway :)
[20:27] <Sysi> you only need kdelibs5 once, then you can use all Qt awesomeness with very little extra
[20:29] <mongy> :)
[20:32] <mongy> there is 5mb difference between with/without recommends.
[20:32] <mongy> expected a little more
[20:33] <knome> recommends is not suggests :)
[20:33] <hobgoblin> made an enormous difference to installing alacarte :p
[20:33] <knome> well yeah. that's considerd a bug
[20:33] <mongy> alacarte isnt k3b
[20:39] <hobgoblin> indeed not
[20:41] <xGrind> alacarte without suggests
[20:41] <xGrind> http://xgrind.webnode.com.br/news/editor-de-menu-para-xfce-xubuntu-11-10-/
[21:49] <Arpad2> pls, could smb tell me how to change windows using just the keyboard
[21:49] <Sysi> alt tab
[21:50] <Sysi> or change it to whatever you want in windowmanager settings
[21:50] <Arpad2> thanks Sysi :)
[22:23] <snipi> üdv mindenkinek
[22:26] <GridCube> no idea what lenguage that is
[22:26] <Sysi> guessing hungarian
[22:27] <snipi> sorry  :)
[22:27] <GridCube> !hg
[22:27] <GridCube> !hu
[22:27] <GridCube> ?
[22:28] <GridCube> no problem snipi :)
[22:28] <snipi> THX for help
[22:29] <GridCube> :) if you want to ask in english we can help you too
[22:31] <frank__> hiho guys
[22:31] <GridCube> !hi
[22:32] <frank__> i there a compiz problem with Xubuntu 11.10 ?
[22:32] <GridCube> there will probably be many, yes
[22:32] <GridCube> i guess
[22:32] <frank__> dam
[22:32] <GridCube> frank__, question 9: http://wp.xubuntu.org/articles/faq-1110-oneiric/
[22:33] <frank__> i know to install and use compiz
[22:33] <Sysi> basically no, you just need to have compiz-gnome installed and maybe set compiz to use gtk-window-decorator (and set theme with gconf-editor)
[22:34] <frank__> but on 11.10 it makes heavy performance trouble
[22:34] <frank__> xorg have a high cpu load
[22:34] <Sysi> what graphics card/driver?
[22:34] <frank__> Sysi: i have do this
[22:34] <frank__> nv 330m
[22:34] <frank__> driver current from Additional Hardware manager
[22:35] <Sysi> reboot or relogin, or did you try that already
[22:35] <frank__> sure
[22:36] <frank__> i have 100% xorg load
[22:36] <frank__> after --replace
[22:37] <frank__> whats the best place to auto startup compiz --replace ?
[22:38] <GridCube> it should replace it forever
[22:38] <frank__> who ?
[22:38] <Sysi> rm -rf ~/.cache/sessions and save session on logout
[22:38] <GridCube> the --replace, once done, it should have replaced xfwm4
[22:39] <frank__> ah ok
[22:39] <Sysi> no, it just once kills xfwm4 and starts compiz
[22:39] <Sysi> session managment does the rest and is nicer than doing that switch on every login
[22:40] <frank__> how to kills the xfwm ?
[22:40] <Sysi> sending right kind of signal to process
[22:40] <frank__> ok
[22:40] <frank__> thx guys i will try it
[22:42] <frank__> how can i save the session ?
[22:43] <frank__> Sysi:
[22:44] <Sysi> when you get logout prompt, there's tap on the bottom
[22:44] <Sysi> and I think it happens automatically when you use the default thingy in panel
[22:44] <frank__> ah ok, im new at xfce
[22:51] <frank__> ok know it better. But not ok.
[22:52] <frank__> compiz is running and xorg have at window moving 20-30% load
[22:52] <frank__> and compiz at same time 15%
[22:54] <Marzata> how does xubuntu compare to freebsd+xfce?
[23:02] <GridCube> no idea
[23:03] <Unit193> Linux and BSD differ quite a lot
[23:04] <Sysi> pretty much evertything but folder structure is different
[23:04] <Sysi> tons more setting up fbsd
[23:04] <frank__> i have notifiy if i restart comiz (with Fusion icon) i have 2-5 sec normally speed and CPU load. after this xorg high load
[23:13] <frank__> k
[23:50] <HTN-Kitsune> hello, i am having an issue. both Chromium and Fire Fox want to download .php instead of viewing them on websites. This is both preventing me from working on testing php on my website and visiting other websites. Anyone know how to fix this?
[23:51] <lordjj> HTN-Kitsune only for your php files that are on your pc? or ones on the internet too?
[23:51] <HTN-Kitsune> both
[23:51] <GridCube> HTN-Kitsune, that happens to me when im having really slow conection problems
[23:52] <lordjj> HTN-Kitsune if it's on your pc it needs to be in /var/www/
[23:52] <HTN-Kitsune> it is
[23:53] <lordjj> Don't know then
[23:53] <lordjj> Opera?
[23:53] <HTN-Kitsune> let me download that and try.
[23:57] <HTN-Kitsune> ok, i tried it in the Arora web browser and php is displayed online instead of downloaded. let me grab opera using it.