| Fudge | thanks TheMuso | 01:49 |
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| Fudge | mm i cant get orca to speak | 11:54 |
| Fudge | in precise | 11:54 |
| Fudge | state of gdm needs attention, gdm is looking for /usr/lib/at-spi/at-spi-registryd where the correct file is /usr/lib/at-spi-core/at-spi2-registryd | 12:04 |
| Fudge | gnome-session[10044]: WARNING: Application 'at-spi-registryd-wrapper.desktop' failed to register before timeout | 12:05 |
| Fudge | would be great | 22:21 |
| Fudge | why is nautilus so flakey, no one has confirmed or given any ideas | 23:21 |
| TheMuso | Fudge: How is it flaky? | 23:22 |
| Fudge | hi TheMuso , it closes on me all the time when deleting files, refreshing or copying/pasting files | 23:24 |
| JanC | Fudge: what version of Ubuntu? | 23:26 |
| Fudge | I am on oneiric 32bit | 23:26 |
| Fudge | JanC I am pretty sure i've seen it in precise but not as frequent | 23:26 |
| JanC | Fudge: try disabling nautilus extensions... | 23:26 |
| JanC | nautilus has been mostly stable for me after disabling ubuntuone and a couple of other nautilus extensions... | 23:28 |
| Fudge | where do disable them, see no flags for nautilus | 23:28 |
| JanC | I don't know if you can disable them in the GUI; but you can uninstall them... :-/ | 23:29 |
| Fudge | ah right | 23:29 |
| Fudge | are you suggesting i remove most of these http://paste.ubuntu.com/794377/ | 23:30 |
| Fudge | as i do not see how those would effect nautilus if i am just performaing basic actions | 23:30 |
| JanC | Fudge: that list doesn't show all Nautilus extensions, and most of them work very well | 23:31 |
| JanC | you need to check packages that depend on libnautilus-extension1 and/or depend on python-nautilus | 23:32 |
| JanC | I guess maybe the dropbox extension could be a problem too, but I don't know how it works | 23:33 |
| JanC | basically, what i think is happening is that some code in some extensions has multithreading issues... | 23:33 |
| JanC | especially code that handles all files shown in nautilus | 23:34 |
| Fudge | it does happen a lot if I am copying stuff remotely to a network machine like using .gvfs | 23:34 |
| Fudge | yeah i list view shall all files and dont just show folders | 23:35 |
| JanC | I'm pretty sure it happens when extensions try to handle files that got changed/moved/deleted between the extension being called & it handling those files, or at least something like that | 23:38 |
| Fudge | so maybe i should not show all files? | 23:38 |
| JanC | Fudge: what I think (didn't investigate to be sure) is that it happens with plugins that work on all files *shown* (which is not the same as all files) | 23:40 |
| Fudge | well in prefs i have unticked show hidden files and not had a crash yet | 23:41 |
| Fudge | well actually, just died but after deleting about 10 files which normally would have hapenned way earlier :(( | 23:41 |
| JanC | this sort of timing related bugs is very difficult to reproduce... | 23:42 |
| JanC | or at least difficult to reproduce reliably | 23:42 |
| Fudge | JanC and it does not help that i am a noob | 23:44 |
| JanC | Fudge: I need to go sleep now, but you could try to remove all packages that depend on libnautilus-extension1 or python-nautilus one by one, and see which one removes most of your problems... | 23:46 |
| Fudge | thanks mate | 23:46 |
| JanC | oh, and remember that nautilus runs in the background, so closing its windows doesn't exit it (you need to kill nautilus and restart it, or logout+login) | 23:47 |
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