[01:49] <Fudge> thanks TheMuso 
[11:54] <Fudge> mm i cant get orca to speak
[11:54] <Fudge> in precise
[12:04] <Fudge> state of gdm needs attention, gdm is looking for /usr/lib/at-spi/at-spi-registryd where the correct file is /usr/lib/at-spi-core/at-spi2-registryd
[12:05] <Fudge> gnome-session[10044]: WARNING: Application 'at-spi-registryd-wrapper.desktop' failed to register before timeout
[22:21] <Fudge> would be great
[23:21] <Fudge> why is nautilus so flakey, no one has confirmed or given any ideas
[23:22] <TheMuso> Fudge: How is it flaky?
[23:24] <Fudge> hi TheMuso , it closes on me all the time when deleting files, refreshing or copying/pasting files
[23:26] <JanC> Fudge: what version of Ubuntu?
[23:26] <Fudge> I am on oneiric 32bit
[23:26] <Fudge> JanC  I am pretty sure i've seen it in precise but not as frequent
[23:26] <JanC> Fudge: try disabling nautilus extensions...
[23:28] <JanC> nautilus has been mostly stable for me after disabling ubuntuone and a couple of other nautilus extensions...
[23:28] <Fudge> where do  disable them, see no flags for nautilus
[23:29] <JanC> I don't know if you can disable them in the GUI; but you can uninstall them...  :-/
[23:29] <Fudge> ah right
[23:30] <Fudge> are you suggesting i remove most of these http://paste.ubuntu.com/794377/
[23:30] <Fudge> as i do not see how those would effect nautilus if i am just performaing basic actions
[23:31] <JanC> Fudge: that list doesn't show all Nautilus extensions, and most of them work very well
[23:32] <JanC> you need to check packages that depend on libnautilus-extension1 and/or depend on python-nautilus
[23:33] <JanC> I guess maybe the dropbox extension could be a problem too, but I don't know how it works
[23:33] <JanC> basically, what i think is happening is that some code in some extensions has multithreading issues...
[23:34] <JanC> especially code that handles all files shown in nautilus
[23:34] <Fudge> it does happen a lot if I am copying stuff remotely to a network machine like using .gvfs
[23:35] <Fudge> yeah i list view shall all files and dont just show folders
[23:38] <JanC> I'm pretty sure it happens when extensions try to handle files that got changed/moved/deleted between the extension being called & it handling those files, or at least something like that
[23:38] <Fudge> so maybe i should not show all files?
[23:40] <JanC> Fudge: what I think (didn't investigate to be sure) is that it happens with plugins that work on all files *shown* (which is not the same as all files)
[23:41] <Fudge> well in prefs i have unticked show hidden files and not had a crash yet
[23:41] <Fudge> well actually, just died but after deleting about 10 files which normally would have hapenned way earlier :((
[23:42] <JanC> this sort of timing related bugs is very difficult to reproduce...
[23:42] <JanC> or at least difficult to reproduce reliably
[23:44] <Fudge> JanC  and it does not help that i am a noob
[23:46] <JanC> Fudge: I need to go sleep now, but you could try to remove all packages that depend on libnautilus-extension1 or python-nautilus one by one, and see which one removes most of your problems...
[23:46] <Fudge> thanks mate
[23:47] <JanC> oh, and remember that nautilus runs in the background, so closing its windows doesn't exit it (you need to kill nautilus and restart it, or logout+login)