[00:00] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: I would get in touch with their support staff... maybe they can restore from a recent snapshot & you can try the upgrade again
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1064405
[00:00] <Viral1> всем чмоки в этом чате)))
[00:00] <Viral1> :D
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: be sure you remove old kernels, bleachbit ran as user and root can also free up tonnes of space
[00:00]  * Quantum_Ion looks like Russian to me
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: also removing unused apps can free a lot of space too
[00:00] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: they don't take snaps, we just backup the bits we need
[00:01] <jbendotnet> Chipzzz: think I'll just have to bite the bullet and reinstall
[00:01] <Chipzzz> jbendotnet: I would ask their tech support first... you could save yourself a whole lot of trouble
[00:01] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: you a legend.. ive only got the one kernel from (installed ubuntu 2 days ago), as for bleachbit, im doing this more to see if it helps with my overheating problem..
[00:02] <Ben64> overheating is a hardware issue
[00:03] <therehei1> 0
[00:03] <SVNDR> Ben64: trust me, ive been doing this for the last two days, ive searched a bazillion websites, saying hardware, or software, or kernels, or this and that.. yet, no fix.. so i shall try this
[00:04] <Ben64> SVNDR: overheating is always definitely hardware
[00:04] <iceroot> Ben64: no
[00:04] <avernos> !ubottu gnome3
[00:04] <robbbie> Ben64: he was saying he didn't have that issue running windows
[00:04] <iceroot> Ben64: e.g. when the os is controlling the fan-speed
[00:04] <user01> ActionParsnip: disabled xv in gstreamer, same issue
[00:05] <Ben64> so then... set the fan speed to be controlled by the motherboard instead of OS?
[00:05] <user01> ActionParsnip: Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.
[00:05] <iceroot> Ben64: finally the fan is always controlled by the bios
[00:05] <SVNDR> Ben64: ok well, if you can help me out with more then just 'hawdware' i will take on your idea.. until then, ill stick with my instincts :p .. 2 days of straight googling makes people crazy man... dont tempt me... haha i kid
[00:06] <iceroot> Ben64: the software is reading the cpu temp and controlling the fan for that
[00:07] <iceroot> Ben64: when the software does not read correct temp-infos it will not controll the fan correctly, so its not always a hardware issue
[00:07] <SVNDR> iceroot: thats another thing i forgot to mention earlier, i can find my fan option in BIOS.. i do have a fan though.. also running 'wmpconfig' wouldnt find a fan either..
[00:07] <Ben64> well i'd still call it hardware if the fan isn't spinning fast enough
[00:07] <iceroot> SVNDR: use "lmsensors"
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> user01: are other players ok?
[00:08] <Chipzzz> SVNDR: is the machine overclocked?
[00:08] <SVNDR> iceroot: yea, thats how i did it.. downloaded lmsensors, then fancontrol.. but neither of them found a fan, and im 100% i have a fan, ive seen it with my own eyes lol
[00:08] <SVNDR> Chipzzz: i couldnt tell you? how do i find out?
[00:08] <Ben64> SVNDR: what laptop
[00:08] <iceroot> SVNDR: sudo sensors-detect
[00:08] <SVNDR> iceroot: yep tried that also
[00:08] <Ben64> SVNDR: i went through irc logs, but can't find you saying which laptop
[00:08] <hipodilski> does anyone know about software I can use to transfer voice using ejabberd
[00:09] <iceroot> SVNDR: and exactly that is the problem
[00:09] <SVNDR> Ben64: Lenovo 3000 N200
[00:09] <iceroot> SVNDR: your os cant find any sensors/fans and so the controlling will fail and you get a high temp
[00:09] <Chipzzz> SVNDR: it's usually done in the bios, although if you are dual booting, it could be set in some Windows app & stuck there when you run Linux
[00:10] <iceroot> SVNDR: because the os is overtaking the control over that features so the bios is not doing it
[00:10] <SVNDR> iceroot: makes sence, how would i make it detect my fan and sensor?
[00:11] <iceroot> SVNDR: loading the correct kernel-moduls (which should be done by default)
[00:11] <iceroot> SVNDR: also lmsensors is suggesting which modules are needed
[00:11] <user01> ActionParsnip: other codecs?  yes
[00:11] <SVNDR> iceroot: Ubuntu also didnt find my sound card..
[00:11] <user01> ActionParsnip: all my canon mov files arent working but they work with the portableapps windows version of vlc
[00:12] <iceroot> SVNDR: what ubuntu-version?
[00:12] <SVNDR> iceroot: 11.10
[00:12] <iceroot> SVNDR: i would suggest to do some google about your chipset and kernel-version
[00:12] <iceroot> !info linux-image
[00:13] <user01> ActionParsnip: i just get green screen with audio
[00:13] <iceroot> SVNDR: your kernel-version is 3.0.0
[00:13] <user01> ActionParsnip: that is with VLC
[00:13] <SVNDR> iceroot: yep 3.0.0
[00:13] <iceroot> SVNDR: sorry cant help more on that topic
[00:13] <user01> ActionParsnip: movieplayer just crashes with the error i gave
[00:13] <SVNDR> iceroot: not a prob, ill give it a go now before i start partitioning again lol
[00:14] <Ben64> SVNDR: have you checked in /sys
[00:15] <SVNDR> iceroot: is there anyway to downgrade kernels to, lets say, 11.04's kernel? or is it the same?
[00:15] <iceroot> SVNDR: downrading/upgrading the kernel is always possible and not a great deal
[00:15] <iceroot> SVNDR: just install the deb-file from the kernel and then choose at grub what kernel to boot
[00:15] <Guest91676> network-manager is so good!
[00:16] <littlegirl> Hey there, my son runs Ubuntu Lucid Lynx and his computer locked up fully so he had to manually shut it down (hard shut down). When he rebooted he had a CMOS Checksum Bad message. He told it to choose default settings, which worked and he was able to boot into Ubuntu, but...
[00:16] <SVNDR> iceroot: alright, will give it a go shortly, ill let you know how it goes
[00:16] <iceroot> SVNDR: also try the kernel from 12.04
[00:16] <littlegirl> He got a message for each drive that said file system was corrupt and he could press f to try to fix it. He did that and all seems to be well, but is there a log he can check to verify that all really is well?
[00:16] <iceroot> SVNDR: maybe that kernel is detecting your hardware better
[00:16] <EvilResistance> !enter | littlegirl
[00:17] <SVNDR> iceroot: is that in beta version?
[00:17] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  you could run a fsck via the LiveCD, that'd tell you whether or not hte filesystem is clean
[00:17] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  i've gotten similar crupted-state messages when my systems die without proper shutdown, and fsck's via the LiveCD always seem to fix my issue
[00:17] <iceroot> SVNDR: the kernel from 12.04 is stable, 12.04 itself is alpha
[00:17] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: It didn't give him a message that it failed to fix anything. What he'd like to do is find the log of the errors it already fixed to see what was damaged and repaired.
[00:18] <SVNDR> iceroot: ok, ill give that a google now
[00:18] <iceroot> SVNDR: ah as it seems 3.2 is not stable yet
[00:18] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: It seems that his system succeeded in repairing his errors as well. He'd like to know what it fixed. (:
[00:18] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  i dont think there are logs for those.  From my experience, what it basically does is just run a check on the integrity of the ext? journaling system, and corrects incorrect statements.
[00:18] <SVNDR> iceroot: 3.2?
[00:18] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  i think you're talking about the automatically run fsck, that doesnt save any logs
[00:19] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  if it were from the LiveCD, it'd have output to stdout about what the error(s) were
[00:19] <iceroot> SVNDR: just go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for the linux-image-3.2.0-6-generic
[00:19] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: So if you press f and it doesn't give an error message, is it safe to say that all is definitely well again?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> user01: what about gnome-mplayer :)
[00:19] <pythonirc101> how do I download a magnet link in ubuntu ? a reliable way please.
[00:19] <iceroot> SVNDR: linux 3.2
[00:19] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  "corruption" on ext4 and other journaling file systems sometimes just means you need to go through the journal and recover it
[00:19] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: Yep, this was the automatic fsck. (:
[00:19] <iceroot> SVNDR: its the current kernel from 12.04
[00:19] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  you can safely *assume* that the main issue was fixed...
[00:19] <picasso> hi.. im trying to install PostgreSQL on lucid, and it seems the script to configuration is screwy. something with a locale using LATIN1 and the server wanting UTF8. (this in the output of apt-get install postgresql)
[00:19] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: Hehe, yep, he's got his eye on that computer sideways now and thinking what he will be buying to replace it... (:
[00:20] <SVNDR> iceroot: ok so what kernel should i be looking for?
[00:20] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  if it starts happening repeatedly without any hard-shutdowns, come back here, it could be a sign of you needing to run an indepth fsck to find bad blocks/sectors/etc.
[00:20] <Chipzzz> littlegirl: check dmesg for errors when it loads the system... if that is clean, you're ok
[00:20] <iceroot> SVNDR: the one i posted
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> pythonirc101: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1598444
[00:20] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  :P  do what Chipzzz says
[00:20] <honestsimula> pvt is easier
[00:20] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  if there's no errors, you're safe (until it starts repeatedly erroring without reason)
[00:20] <littlegirl> Chipzzz: Thanks! Will tell him. (:
[00:20] <iceroot> SVNDR: linux-image-generic-3.2.0-6
[00:20] <raven> webradio: any way to display the changing tags in a tool? audacity?
[00:20] <iceroot> SVNDR: linux-image-generic-3.2.0-6-generic
[00:21] <SVNDR> iceroot: thanks heaps again
[00:21] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: Okay, will do. This only happened because he had to shut down hard. At least we're hoping that that's what caused it. (:
[00:21] <iceroot> SVNDR: np, i will do some sleeping now, good luck with that
[00:21] <pythonirc101> ActionParsnip: nothing commandline I can do? ktorrent sounds like gui that I don't need
[00:21] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  that seems to just be a small issue, rather than huge ones like I get every so often
[00:21] <SVNDR> iceroot: goodluck with the sleep lol
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> pythonirc101: there are cli interfaces to torrent apps
[00:21] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  on 11.04, if a basic fsck fixes it, you can assume it was just an "unclean journal" and the fsck cleaned it up.
[00:21] <honestsimula> hi all
[00:21] <honestsimula> i'm a girl
[00:22] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  if it seems to fix it, but then crashes occur and more corruption occurs, it could be the sing of a bigger issue
[00:22] <honestsimula> i love sexpvt
[00:22] <EvilResistance> !offtopic | honestsimula
[00:22] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: He has an older system, although his video card is newer than mine, but neither of us would be surprised if this was it giving up the ghost, although it runs Lucid Lynx really well. (:
[00:22] <groovehunter> pls how do i start the system settings gui from cli
[00:22] <iceroot> pythonirc101: rtorrent if you are searching for a good cli torrent client
[00:22] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: Okay, thanks. I'm reading him all of this as you type it. (:
[00:22] <honestsimula> okok sorr
[00:22] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  well i doubt its the system explodificating
[00:22] <honestsimula> sorry man
[00:22] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  rather just a brief issue with the system
[00:22] <EvilResistance> caused by the unclean shutdown
[00:22] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: Yeah, especially since all seems to be wrll right now. I did tell him to take anything recent that he feels strongly about and back it up. (:
[00:23] <EvilResistance> (aka the journaling system getting messed slightly)
[00:23] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  hehe, i'd recommend *always* backing up
[00:23] <iceroot> littlegirl: making a backup is ALWAYS a good idea
[00:23] <iceroot> !backup | littlegirl
[00:23] <EvilResistance> littlegirl:  maybe i'm insane, but i have an on-shutdown remote rsync command that rsyncs my data off to a remote location...
[00:23] <groovehunter> got it
[00:23] <EvilResistance> but then again, i have the eqivalent of a server cluster here at home
[00:23] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: He does, but I mean anything from today that hasn't been backed up yet. I don't know about you, but I can have vital stuff happening on my computer in the past hour that I'd hate to see get lost. (:
[00:24] <EvilResistance> indeed
[00:24] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: Yep, we have a script that I wrote that backs our stuff up and copies the backups to both computers. (:
[00:24] <EvilResistance> although i'm a technician... i have the tools to take my drive out and plug it into a different system to attempt to recover data... :P
[00:24] <littlegirl> EvilResistance: I suppose we could take his drives and put them in my system temporarily if it came to that. (:
[00:25] <EvilResistance> :P
[00:25] <littlegirl> Chipzzz: He found his Checksum error in the dmesg, so now he's sleuthing to see what it reported that it did, if anything. (:
[00:25] <davie_> how cant i reset my gnome 3.2 to default on ubuntu 11.10?
[00:26] <NobleSavage> ?
[00:26] <NobleSavage> ALLCHANL
[00:26] <Chipzzz> littlegirl: good job! To be thorough, it might be a good idea to check kern.log also
[00:26] <Crell> littlegirl: How old is your son that he's digging through dmesg?
[00:26] <SilfenX> Is it possible to make samba shares indexed so that they will work with libraries under w7??
[00:26] <littlegirl> Crell: He's twenty four. (:
[00:26] <Crell> Oh, OK.
[00:26]  * littlegirl is getting up there but still loves to learn about Linux. (:
[00:27] <NobleSavage> exit
[00:27] <Crell> I was going to say, props to you for learnin' him right as a kid. :-)
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> davie_: rename the hidden folders which hold the configs for gnome using another user (or root recovery console or even live cd) and log back in as your user
[00:27] <littlegirl> Crell: (:
[00:27] <fd-balder> any grub specialists?
[00:28] <davie_> ActionParsnip, can you please rephrase a lil or elaborate
[00:29] <davie_> are there alot of .config folders for gnome?
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> davie_: the hidden folders hold the configs, if you rename them (or delete them) you will get new ones with vanilla settings
[00:29] <raven> how to open music files randomized from shell?
[00:29] <davie_> k, are they in /home
[00:30] <littlegirl> davie_: I could be wrong, so please have the others in here double-check this, but it would be the hidden files that are named .gconf and .gnome and that start with .gconf or .gnome
[00:30] <user01> ActionParsnip: that does the gstreamer error
[00:30] <davie_> ty bud..
[00:32] <davie_> an ty ActionParsnip
[00:32] <littlegirl> Chipzzz: He found the error in kern.log and this is what it said: "Failed to register lockdv RPC service (errno97)." On the next line it says "NFSD using /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery as the NFS v4 state recovery directory. NFS starting 90 second grace period."
[00:33] <tidux> well I'm an idiot
[00:34] <tidux> I accidentally installed 32-bit Ubuntu on my Core i6
[00:34] <tidux> *i5
[00:34] <d3ath101> o god...
[00:34] <tidux> is there any way I can tweak sources.list to fix that?
[00:34] <d3ath101> time to reinstall lol
[00:34] <tidux> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[00:34] <tidux> seriously?
[00:34] <d3ath101> just do a  reinstal, no biggy
[00:34] <tidux> I know in Debian I could just replace "i386" with "amd64" in sources.list and do a dist-upgrade
[00:35] <d3ath101> well, you could try, didnt think bout that
[00:35] <davie_> brb
[00:35] <d3ath101> you would need to update everything then anyway
[00:37] <Fredo42> Is there anyone in here that can help me with my ubuntu one issue?
[00:37] <Chipzzz> littlegirl: NFSD is the network file system... I wouldn't be too worried about it
[00:38] <Fredo42> I keep getting this error: File Sync error. (org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "current_status" with signature "" on interface "com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Status" doesn't exist
[00:38] <Fredo42> )
[00:39] <d3ath101> sry, no clue
[00:39] <littlegirl> Chipzzz: Yeah, we set that up to begin with, so we'll look it over to make sure it's working well and be happy that that's all that happened. (:
[00:40] <fd-balder> has anyone here successfully included a freedos option in grub?
[00:42] <JasonGriffee> How do I properly install the ati catalyst control center?
[00:43] <Fredo42> Is there no one here who can answer our questions?
[00:43] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: you can do that via Additional Driver
[00:43] <Stanley00> !ask | Fredo42
[00:44] <JasonGriffee> Stanley00, blank window
[00:44] <Fredo42> I keep getting this ubuntu one error: File Sync error. (org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "current_status" with signature "" on interface "com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Status" doesn't exist
[00:44] <Fredo42> )
[00:45] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: did you enable Universe and Multi universe in the softwares source?
[00:45] <littlegirl> Well, thanks to both of you for the help! I'm off - have fun! (:
[00:45] <Stanley00> Fredo42: where did you get that message?  from ubuntu one?
[00:45] <JasonGriffee> Stanley00, yes
[00:46] <Fredo42> Stanley00, Yeah, when I start up the Ubuntu One client to see why it won't sync, that message appears in the upper-righthand corner.
[00:46] <Chipzzz> gl
[00:47] <Stanley00> Fredo42: well, it's looks like a bug, you can report it at Bug #858808
[00:48] <Fredo42> Thank you.
[00:48] <stepnjump> Anybody here know a way to import .mdb file to .odf? Or worse case scenario, a converter I could use to translate in the meanwhile? Thanks
[00:48] <Webuser> Heyaaa :D
[00:48] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: so what is your video card?
[00:49] <robbbie> anyone try watching netflix using virtualbox ? somewhat of a solution i suppose but the quality is low, i can only assign 128mb video memory to the vm, enabled 2d/3d acceleration etc. not sure if there will be much i can do to improve on the quality
[00:49] <JasonGriffee> Stanley00, ATI Radeon 9550
[00:50] <stepnjump> From msft access to open office (libre office) base?
[00:50] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: it's very new, isn't it?
[00:50] <JasonGriffee> Stanley00, The card? No, its several years old.
[00:51] <mobius420> I ended up doing sudo lsof -i :443  and got the PID of a process called hostd-wor
[00:51] <mobius420> I still dont know what the server was but after killing that pid,  I can see my server now
[00:52] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: oh, if so, I think the driver is already install in xorg-video-* package.
[00:52] <mobius420> ahhhh it's a vmware component
[00:53] <mobius420> DOH!
[00:53] <Webuser> Hey all!
[00:53] <SVNDR> Im having trouble finding 'linux-image-generic-3.2.0-6-generic' it seems like it has been removed from Ubuntu.. is there a reason for this?
[00:53] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: or you can search your driver here http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx
[00:53] <Webuser> Sick of people quiting so annoying
[00:53] <Webuser> So many timeouts and quits.
[00:53] <JasonGriffee> Stanley00, but I want to use the control center to control the card
[00:54] <Webuser> PING:
[00:54] <SVNDR> [11:51] * Webuser (~Webuser@cpc6-newc13-2-0-cust162.gate.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Quit: Closed his browser)
[00:54] <SVNDR> lol
[00:54] <Webuser> That was an accident
[00:54] <JasonGriffee> Stanley00, more features than a regular driver
[00:54] <Webuser> I'm sick of people timing out, if they are inactive they should close connection.
[00:54] <stepnjump> Ooops looks like a virus SVNDR lol... he's gone!
[00:54] <SVNDR> Webuser: ;p just tricken
[00:54] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: you can download it here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English
[00:55] <Webuser> Tricken?
[00:55] <stepnjump> oh you tricked us all right SVNDR
[00:55] <SVNDR> Webuser: playing around, fooling.. you know?
[00:55] <stepnjump> tricken as in tricked chicken
[00:55] <SVNDR> stepnjump: haha i thought it was good :D
[00:55] <Webuser> Haha
[00:55] <Webuser> Hey HackForums!
[00:55] <stepnjump> ;)
[00:56] <JasonGriffee> Stanley00, how do I ensure I have removed all other drivers so I don't conflict?
[00:57] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: I dont know either, the last time I use driver from AMD, I just disable gdm service and run the installer.
[00:58] <golixo> hi guys
[00:59] <miento> i downloaded a version of ubuntu and installed it, the software package cannot successfully install anything, i am assuming there was an error during the burning process, is there away without reinstalling to check for errors in the os?
[00:59] <miento> and fix them?
[01:00] <golixo> I'm in the Ubuntu Live 10.10 to test if my notebook asus x53sc is compatible, but I immediately noticed that I detects the wireless networks (it is now connected via cable). Can you help?
[01:00] <Chipzzz> miento: the CD should have a self-check in the menu to make sure the image is ok
[01:01] <miento> Chipzzz, so i should just stick the cd in and look for a self-check file to click on?
[01:02] <Chipzzz> miento: I would start there... if the image on the CD is ok, then it is unlikely that there was an error in copying the files
[01:02] <Chipzzz> (you have to boot from the CD to find the menu entry, though)
[01:03] <miento> okay
[01:03] <miento> so there is no easy update option that would fix it
[01:03] <Chipzzz> not that i am aware of
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> miento: can you give the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> miento: use a pastebin to host the output http://pastie.org
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> miento: sounds like you
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> your packages are tangled, thats all
[01:05] <miento> im sorry im not familiar with the terms you are using  ...
[01:05] <miento> i dont know what pastebin is
[01:05] <LogicallyDashing> pastebin holds text and then you link to it
[01:06] <ActionParsnip> miento: click the link I gave
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> miento: open a terminal by pressing CTRL+ALT+T and run:  sudo apt-get update
[01:07] <benbloom> I'm struggling with my fstab. can someone help me? I have an nfs that i want to mount at login, but it seems like the network might not be up yet when fstab runs and so it's not finding the nfs. is there a second fstab type operation that happens later? or is there something I'm doing wrong? when i 'mount /srv/nfs/hds' after login they mount up no problem
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> miento: copy ALL the output and paste it to the pastebin, when you click paste, copy the new address in the address bar and paste it here
[01:08] <Guest61170> Rrgh.  I'm having a major problem setting up an openconnect vpn session through the network-manager.  All of these tutorials seem to suggest that I could choose an auth method that would let me enter a username and password, but there is no such dropdown when I go to set it up.
[01:08] <miento> okay
[01:08] <ActionParsnip> miento: when you run the command you will need to type your password, you will get no feedback
[01:09] <Chipzzz> benbloom: are you mounting the device by UUID?
[01:09] <benbloom> actually, i just remembered. my problem is with aufs not waiting for the nfs to load before attempting to mount. is fstab not executed in order?
[01:10] <fd-balder> who wants a challenge? see if it's possible to successfully boot via grub a primary partition with freedos balder installed on it
[01:11] <philikon|work> hi. ubuntu's fonts and icons are enormous on my desktop (i'm using 11.10)... how can i change this (presumably the DPI setting?)
[01:11] <Chipzzz> benbloom: dunno
[01:11] <benbloom> and Chipzzz i'm mounting the nfs from it's network export point which is not its uuid
[01:12] <miento> ActionParsnip_ http://pastie.org/3128396 this what you want?
[01:12] <Chipzzz> benbloom: lol... didn't read your original question very closely... now i really dunno
[01:13] <benbloom> does anyone know if there's a way to make aufs wait until nfs mounts complete before mounting via fstab?
[01:15] <walkeraj> ugh.  Damn you, Nickserv.  Anyway, as I was saying: I do not have an option to select authentication in Openconnect.  what's up with that?
[01:15] <Chipzzz> fd-balder: was freedos balder there when you installed Ubuntu?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> miento: perfect :)
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> miento: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> miento: you can paste here, its one line
[01:17] <picasso> im having a nightmare with locale settings and postgresql, on a clean lucid install
[01:17] <abstrakt> how do I get my extra/file partitions to automount?
[01:17] <abstrakt> isn't there something I can add to /etc/fstab
[01:17] <abstrakt> i can't quite remember
[01:17] <_jason> !fstab | abstrakt
[01:18] <miento> ActionParsnip: Katya
[01:19] <JasonGriffee> stanley00, I got this error when installing the downloaded file: "Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[01:19] <JasonGriffee> default:v2:i686:lib::none:3.0.0-14-generic; make sure that the version is being
[01:19] <JasonGriffee> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> miento: mint isn't suported here, it has its own channels for support
[01:19] <_phoenix_> hi anyone here knows how to install virtual box in ubuntu 11.04
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> !mint | miento
[01:19] <Ebonhand> Anyone have a solution for the 'upgrading to 11.10 from 11.04 is a regretable decision' bug?
[01:20] <_phoenix_> Ebonhand was your upgrade successful?
[01:21] <Ebonhand> _phoenix_: technically, but I've had no end of trouble since
[01:21] <Ebonhand> _phoenix_: I'm a classic desktop user, yasee..
[01:21] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, yep, erase and do a fresh install
[01:21] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, I personally never do upgrades, I always do a fresh install (for desktops anyway)
[01:21] <_phoenix_> Ebonhand: oh just asking cause I can't upgrade my 11.04 to 11.10 there's always an error
[01:21] <Ebonhand> nothing but crash after crash after crash
[01:22] <Ebonhand> _phoenix_: It wasn't as smooth as I expected, for sure
[01:22] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: This is for older version, but it may help http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Maverick_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Ebonhand: is it the same as a new user?
[01:22] <Ebonhand> ActionParsnip: haven't tried, to be honest
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> Ebonhand: tried a different DE?
[01:22] <fd-balder> Chipzzz, no, but i think this is a general issue relating to grub
[01:22] <Ebonhand> DE?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Ebonhand: desktop environment, like XFCE
[01:23] <_phoenix_> Ebonhand: just like abstrakt said I think also it's better for a fresh install some upgrades are not that great success
[01:23] <mhaz> wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[01:23] <Ebonhand> okay.. i'll give all of the above a shot and see what falls out
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> Ebonhand: I always clean install, fewer issues
[01:23] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, honestly, just do a fresh install, you'll save a lot of headaches
[01:23] <benbloom> does anyone know if there's a way to make aufs wait until nfs mounts complete before mounting via fstab? in fstab docs _netdev switch is for nfs only. can I somehow add it to the aufs line?
[01:24] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, ALSO do ditch the standard DE and use XFCE instead
[01:24] <Ebonhand> apparently gnome classic isn't very well supported in 11.10 anyway..?
[01:24] <d1g1ta1> Is it possible to undo a ./config and make ?
[01:24] <SVNDR> Guys, i really need a solution the the overheating on Lenovo 3000 N200, ive been trying for practically 2 days straight and i cant manage it.. im not sure if i need to install thinkpad-acpi or ibm-acpi, i dont know if i need to be controlling the CPU throttle or the Fans.. ive seriously come to a complete stop.. the kernels everyone is saying i need 'linux-image-generic-3.2.0-6-generic' but
[01:24] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[01:24] <SVNDR> when i try to search for it its supposebly been removed.. my brain is about as friend as my CPU will be if i dont fix it.. ive googled everything from, lm-sensors, to kernels, to patches, to Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Kubuntu, to 'lenovo overheating with ubuntu', you name it ive pretty much googled it.. i know someone has had this problem before, and i can assure they have gotten it fixed.. i just kind
[01:24] <SVNDR> find that person.. PLEASE person, if your in this room, help me.. or if you know someone who knows someone... PLEASE im begging lol... my brain and eyes are soo sore..
[01:24] <FloodBot1> SVNDR: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:24] <_phoenix_> anyone here knows how to install backtrack utilities in ubuntu 11.04
[01:24] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, GNOME "classic" doesn't exist anymore in 11.10
[01:24] <SVNDR> im sorry FloodBot1 :(
[01:24] <Ebonhand> abstrakt: precisely :P
[01:24] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, if you want a DE that resembles the GNOME you are used to, use XFCE, it's better than GNOME 2 was anyway
[01:24] <Ebonhand> abstrakt: i'll give it a try, ty
[01:24] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, XFCE gets right, so many annoying little things that GNOME2 got wrong
[01:25] <Chipzzz> fd-balder: I ask because grub has always found all the other operating systems on the machine when I install Ubuntu. Maybe if you did a "sudo grub-install it would take care of it"
[01:25] <Ebonhand> anyone here actually like unity?
[01:25] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, no
[01:25] <mhaz> no
[01:25] <_phoenix_> Ebonhand: for me unity is only for netbooks
[01:25] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, we all pretty much hate it
[01:26] <Ebonhand> what on earth are they thinking? :/
[01:26] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, if you like unity, then you have never used a computer before in your life, or you are 84 years old
[01:26] <mhaz> going to debian when lucid is unsupported
[01:26] <abstrakt> probably both
[01:26] <fd-balder> Chipzzz, yeah, it does successfully load dos 7.1. and winxp in addition to tinycore linux of course
[01:26] <_phoenix_> haha they were thinking more on the netbook users probably
[01:26] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, if you properly partition your system in to system drive vs files drive, then fresh installs are really easy
[01:27] <fd-balder> Chipzzz, so maybe freedos balder is not meant to be booted this way
[01:27] <Ebonhand> abstrakt: true, but I've rarely found the time to spend on that
[01:27] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, I usually go with about 20-50G "system" partition and about 100-200G "files" partition
[01:27] <Ebonhand> too much chopping and not enough sharpening the axe
[01:27] <Chipzzz> fd-balder: i don't know anything about freedos but grub is supposed to be "universal"
[01:28] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, yeah, well... if you do it, then you'll have a lot more time to chop in the future when a new release comes out because an upgrade will be a cinch
[01:28] <Ebonhand> i know, i know.. lol
[01:28] <_phoenix_> anyone here installed backtrack utilities in ubuntu 11.04
[01:28] <Ebonhand> still, wish I could control-Z yesterday's spur-of-the-moment 'yes, upgrade to 11.10'
[01:28] <mhaz> "system, files" you mean " root, home"?
[01:29] <kszksz> installing libtorrent-0.12.6 on ubuntu 11 mini-smth; ./configure is ok, make returns errors like 'error 1, 2' null was not declared blabla, google fails to help
[01:29] <d1g1ta1> is there a relatively easy way to undo a ./config and make?
[01:29] <[2]jon> how much memory would ubuntu need to run with just the command line.. no xwindows?  I just  need basic networking and java.
[01:29] <abstrakt> mhaz, not quite, but something like it, hence why I used quotes
[01:29] <Ebonhand> brb
[01:29] <abstrakt> mhaz, I mean root and "files", as in not a separate partition for /home
[01:29] <_phoenix_> no one's answering my question T_T
[01:29] <abstrakt>  /home still lives on the root partition
[01:30] <abstrakt> mhaz, files I actually care about, like projects I'm working on, my music library, my downloads etc, all live on my files partition
[01:30] <Oer> _phoenix_, backtrack is not supported here.
[01:30] <JasonGriffee> stanley00, went to unistall, says it can't lock admin dir
[01:30] <JasonGriffee> stanley00, directory
[01:30] <_phoenix_> Oer: yeah i know but installing backtrack utilities in UBUNTU?
[01:30] <abstrakt> mhaz, for me, my home folder is nothing more than my collection of various settings files like .bashrc .xchat .mozilla and the like
[01:31] <abstrakt> mhaz, don't PM me
[01:31] <abstrakt> kthx
[01:31] <urlin2u> _phoenix_, 3rd part whether backtrack or not.
[01:31] <xrfang> I am learning how to setup my own repo on ubuntu, found this doc: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
[01:31] <abstrakt> [2]jon, I usually give my servers about 256M
[01:31] <urlin2u> party*
[01:31] <xrfang> but it says "obsolete", I wonder what is the latest document on this topic? thanks
[01:31] <kszksz> any help? :P
[01:31] <abstrakt> mhaz, srsly, i don't even read PMs I just close the tab
[01:31] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: you can reboot, and it'll go off
[01:31] <abstrakt> mhaz, if you have something to say, you can ask me in here
[01:32] <abstrakt> [2]jon, maybe 512 if I'm feeling generous
[01:32] <JasonGriffee> Stanley00, reboot to fix?
[01:32] <mhaz> I said you mean home partition is a config partition to you?
[01:32] <[2]jon> abstrakt, I'm trying to figure out what I'll need for a VPS.  I figure that app I'll run will take between 50 and 100 meg, plus whatever the OS requires.
[01:32] <abstrakt> [2]jon, 512 should be more than enough
[01:32] <mhaz> Thanks for being an ass.
[01:32] <Ebonhand> ok, next problem.. xfce looks like ass
[01:32] <Stanley00> JasonGriffee: I think so...
[01:33] <abstrakt> [2]jon, for a local VM anyway
[01:33] <SVNDR> Is there a huge difference from 10.04 to 11.10 ?
[01:33] <[2]jon> abstakt do you think I could get by with 256? trying to keep it cheap as possible
[01:33] <abstrakt> [2]jon, for a production VPS, well, that depends on how much traffic you get
[01:33] <Chipzzz> SVNDR: there's unity
[01:33] <abstrakt> [2]jon, i use 256 on most of my dev servers, seems to be fine
[01:33] <urlin2u> SVNDR, gnome2 to unity pretty big change there.
[01:33] <xangua> SVNDR: oneiric uses more recent kernel, gnome, programs, all¿
[01:34] <abstrakt> [2]jon, is this going to be a production server or a dev server?
[01:34] <[2]jon> abstrakt .... I'm going to rent a VPS i should say.
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Ebonhand: you can hack gnome3 to look like gnome2
[01:34] <abstrakt> [2]jon, i understand that
[01:34] <abstrakt> [2]jon, do you know the difference between local/dev/staging/prod ?
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Ebonhand: there is a how to on omgubuntu
[01:34] <[2]jon> abstrakt it will be production.. I'm going to run red5 off it
[01:34] <SVNDR> My laptop is constantly over heating in 11.10.. im thinking about downgrading 10.04 to see if it helps.. whats all you guys opinion?
[01:34] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, meh, but it runs fast as hell
[01:35] <[2]jon> abstrakt yah I do..
[01:35] <abstrakt> Ebonhand, I personally will take "looks like ass" over "crashes all the fuck over" anyday
[01:35] <abstrakt> [2]jon, so then it entirely depends on your traffic
[01:35] <xangua> !language | abstrakt Ebonhand
[01:35] <pangolin> !language | abstrakt
[01:35] <Chipzzz> SVNDR: what's the laptop model?
[01:35] <Oer> SVNDR, please keep polling this channel for another hour, when you know your laptop is overheating.
[01:35] <abstrakt> [2]jon, rackspace cloud server instances can auto upgrade in place without destroying files
[01:36] <abstrakt> [2]jon, so you can start with the smallest one and if htop shows your resources are pegged, upgrade to the next level
[01:36] <[2]jon> abstrakt I've got pretty modest needs, at most 200 connections but probably more like 20 to start.
[01:36] <abstrakt> [2]jon, 200 connections per what?
[01:36] <abstrakt> [2]jon, per year?
[01:36] <[2]jon> abstrakt yah I like rackspace but don't have money for that fr now
[01:37] <abstrakt> per month? per day?
[01:37] <[2]jon> abstrakt simultenous
[01:37] <abstrakt> [2]jon, then how do you have money for a VPS? where are you getting this mythical free vps?
[01:37] <abstrakt> and how can you be concerned with price if it's free?
[01:37] <SubCool> can someone help me edit my grub. I cant find grub editor
[01:37] <SubCool> its not in system settings
[01:37] <jimi_> Does installing mysql-server also install the mysql client?
[01:37] <Chipzzz> SubCool: grub2?
[01:38] <[2]jon> abstrakt of course I'm paying, just trying to find a cheaper vps in the $5 ro $10 a month range
[01:38] <SubCool> Chipzzz: idk?
[01:38] <abstrakt> jimi_, try it and see
[01:38] <Chipzzz> SubCool: what version Ubuntu?
[01:38] <dr_willis> SubCool:  edit it to do what exactly?
[01:38] <SubCool> kubuntu 10.1
[01:38] <jimi_> abstrakt, without installing, how can i see what packages will be installed?
[01:38] <abstrakt> [2]jon, rackspace cloud servers start at $10/mo
[01:38] <SubCool> dr_willis:  swap dual boot order
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: what do you want to edit?
[01:39] <dr_willis> SubCool:  You just want the windows entry at top?
[01:39] <SubCool> ActionParsnip: i just want to swap the order
[01:39] <Chipzzz> SubCool: "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub" or "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"
[01:39] <SubCool> dr_willis: ya
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: so windows be the first entry?
[01:39] <SubCool> ah, its in etc
[01:39] <dr_willis> SubCool:  do you have a /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober  ?
[01:39] <abstrakt> jimi_, why does it matter? i know that mysql-client doesn't install mysql-server
[01:39] <SubCool> woo- which one...
[01:39] <[2]jon> okay thanks abstrakt guess I'll just have to try it and find out
[01:39] <jimi_> abstrakt, Right,but does mysqlserver install the msyql-client?
[01:39] <SubCool> lets see wht i have,
[01:39] <abstrakt> jimi_, if you can't install mysql-server because it also installs client, then IMO you're Doing It Wrong (TM)
[01:40] <abstrakt> jimi_, if you also want client, then what's wrong with typing sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client just to be safe
[01:40] <benbloom> does anyone know if there's a way to make aufs wait until nfs mounts complete before mounting via fstab? in fstab docs _netdev switch is for nfs only. can I somehow add it to the aufs line?
[01:40] <abstrakt> jimi_, btw apt-get doesn't auto install things it'll tell you "these will be installed"
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: if you say exacty what you want, you'll get fewer questions clarifying the issue
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/06_os-prober; sudo update-grub
[01:40] <abstrakt> jimi_, so try it and see
[01:40] <dr_willis> SubCool:  for grub2 you can rename  /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober   to be like /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober   and that should put the probed os's befor the linux entries. (run sudo update-grub  afterwards)
[01:41] <abstrakt> jimi_, srsly, why can't you just type sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client ?
[01:41] <dr_willis> there are other ways to specificy the defaults also.
[01:41] <abstrakt> that will give you both, guaranteed
[01:42] <jimi_> abstrakt, ok
[01:43] <largetalk> hi, men, can you help me, i install libevent 2.0 on ubuntu 10.10, it make me tmux invalide, but when build a new tmux, a error occur "configure: error: "curses not found" ", how can i do
[01:43] <SubCool> ActionParsnip: dont know how that command did that- but thanks....
[01:43] <craigbass1976> what do I remove to make a currently "headed" box into a headless server? apt-get remove gnome ?
[01:43] <_jason> largetalk: what do you mean by "it make me tmux invalide"?
[01:43] <SubCool> im going to reboot to check
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: the number of the file dictates where it appears
[01:44] <dr_willis> largetalk:  if compiling from source, or rebuilding apackage. the 'sudo apt-get build-dep PACAGENAME' option  should pull in all needed deps to compile the source.
[01:44] <alejandro> any computer scientist?
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> SubCool: you changed the number so it appears at the top
[01:44] <dr_willis> largetalk:  sounds like you need to install the ncurses-dev stuff.
[01:44] <dr_willis> !grub2 > SubCool
[01:44] <largetalk> oh, thanks
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> alejandro: how is that related to ubuntu support?
[01:45] <kszksz> installing libtorrent-0.12.6; ./configure is ok, make returns errors like http://pastebin.com/8T3ii2Vs any hints?
[01:45] <alejandro> well....i need to know if is any IDE for prolog in ubuntu......u dumb fuck
[01:45] <pangolin> !language | alejandro
[01:46] <alejandro> ok
[01:46] <alejandro> sorry
[01:46] <dr_willis> alejandro:  i dont see what that requires a 'CS' for either... there are dozens of IDES out for linux
[01:46] <dr_willis> !ide
[01:46] <alejandro> coz i need to do something using prolog and ubuntu
[01:46] <dr_willis> i imagine emacs/gvim have some sort of prolog plugins/features.
[01:46] <dr_willis> others may as well.
[01:46] <alejandro> ok
[01:46] <dr_willis> emacs has everything else under the stars....
[01:47] <alejandro> yup
[01:47] <alejandro> nevermind
[01:47] <alejandro> lol
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> alejandro: coding has nothing to do with being a computer scientist
[01:47] <ska> My system installs a new kernel but it boots into the old one..
[01:47] <Oer> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/swi-prolog
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: ppa has it already built: https://launchpad.net/~eternicode/+archive/rtorrent-0.8.7
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: unless you specifically want that version...
[01:48] <kszksz> i need that version.. :/
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: I see, is it not backward friendly?
[01:49] <kszksz> some trackers require that stable version
[01:50] <ska> I'm trying to get /dev/kvm to show, but linux-headers-2.6.32.32+drm33.14-ufs-rw doesn't seem to have a kvm module..
[01:50] <dekz> My sudo, after an strace, seems to be showing a timeout of 25 seconds attempting to bind and write to 127.0.0.1, /etc/hostname is in /etc/hosts with 127.0.0.1, I don't know what else the problem could be
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: very weird, thought the later version would be acceptable too
[01:55] <zabomber> any idea why ajaxterm is broken in 11.10?
[01:55] <ska> What is a drm kernel version?
[01:56] <graft> hi, how come less won't display color codes in a file properly?
[01:56] <graft> more shows them correctly
[01:56] <trism> graft: less -R
[01:57] <graft> trism: ah, so it's a "feature"
[01:57] <largetalk> dr_willis: i compiling tmux from source,  ./configure and make is ok , but when make install , a little error occur, /bin/mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/share/man/man1': File exists
[01:57] <largetalk> make[1]: *** [install-man1] Error 1
[01:57] <largetalk> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/laregetalk/Downloads/tmux-1.5'
[01:57] <largetalk> make: *** [install-am] Error 2
[01:57] <largetalk> i can use tmux now, but i not sure there is no problem when i used. thanks
[01:57] <FloodBot1> largetalk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:58] <largetalk> sorry
[01:58] <Oer> ska, where do you read about such drm kernel ?
[02:01] <dr_willis> largetalk:  one normally does 'sudo make install' sounds like a file left over from a eralier install attempt.
[02:01] <dr_willis> largetalk:  man1 would just be the man pages
[02:02] <ska> Oer: I'm using a DRM kernel, and it lacks KVM modules that provides /dev/kvm, which I need for something like qemu.
[02:03] <ska> Oer: i'm hitting against it.
[02:04] <walkeraj> ;2A;2A;2A
[02:04] <walkeraj> Sorry.
[02:05] <r000t_mlt> Hello. I left the house thinking I could SSH into my public facing box, then SSH into the studio box next to it. I can SSH into my public box, but I can't SSH into the studio, as SSHd isn't installed. Is there ANY other way to get into it or install SSHd remotely?
[02:06] <r000t_mlt> At the very least I need to be able to access a drive on that box that may or may not be shared with the network
[02:06] <pangolin> not without being able to ssh into it.
[02:06] <walkeraj> Rrgh.  I'm having a major problem setting up an openconnect vpn session through the network-manager.  All of these tutorials seem to suggest that I could choose an auth method that would let me enter a username and password, but there is no such dropdown when I go to set it up.
[02:07] <EvilResistance> walkeraj:  try installing network-manager-openconnect first
[02:07] <r000t_mlt> Would telnet be of any use to me?
[02:08] <EvilResistance> walkeraj:  you might need network-manager-openconnect-gnome too
[02:08] <dr_willis> r000t_mlt:  only if you had the telnet service allready installed on the box you are telneting to.
[02:08] <largetalk> dr_willis: i think i can ignore this error, test -z "/usr/local/share/man/man1" || /bin/mkdir -p "/usr/local/share/man/man1", it likes want to create a folder man1 but there is a file man1 exists. right?
[02:09] <dr_willis> largetalk:  yes. You perhaps should of done a 'make uninstall' befor doing the last 'make install'
[02:09] <pangolin> r000t_mlt: you're choice is to go back home, set up the machine.
[02:09] <dr_willis> largetalk:  or if you have other things in /usr/local/share/man/man1   then the dir was allready made.. so its not an issue
[02:09] <pangolin> r000t_mlt: or have someone there install the service
[02:10] <largetalk> dr_willis: ok, thanks
[02:14] <kszksz> how to use a patch file in ubuntu?
[02:17] <an> 。。。
[02:17] <testing123321> 123
[02:20] <tidux> ok, so I got 11.10 amd64 installed and working
[02:20] <tidux> but Firefox's icon in the Unity sidebar is a gray square with a question mark
[02:20] <tidux> what gives?
[02:20] <TiMiDo> tidux, did you frequently update it your system?
[02:21] <dannel> what happens if you remove it from the sidebar and then restart firefox?
[02:21] <TiMiDo> it's just and icon miss programmed/
[02:21] <TiMiDo> firefox still does work if you open up a terminal tidux
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> tidux: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[02:22] <ActionParsnip> tidux: and can you pastebin the output of:  apt-cache policy firefox
[02:22] <TiMiDo> he has oneiric
[02:23] <share> where can I read about these "options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=0 power_save=0 power_save_controller=N" ?
[02:23] <share> I want to understand them.
[02:23] <craigbass1976> anyone here in the Wilson NC area?  An acquaintance needs a set of hands when her in-law's ubuntu breaks... if there's hardware trouble
[02:23] <TiMiDo> share, man pulseaudio
[02:23] <share> TiMiDo: arent those options for ALSA?
[02:24] <AZora> So what's a good distro these days? I'm considering going back to Debian or trying Mint.
[02:24] <share> or both?
[02:24] <TiMiDo> share, are you using gnome?
[02:24] <share> yes, but I do use ALSA.
[02:24] <TiMiDo> because gnome does use pulseaudio not alsa,
[02:24] <share> I Have both. lol
[02:24] <TiMiDo> Yeah  i know,
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> TiMiDo: may not be, may be something based on oneiric, good to check
[02:25] <ActionParsnip> TiMiDo: pulse is an abstraction for alsa, it uses both
[02:25] <TiMiDo> ActionParsnip, it it's but rather, make sure to see if there is any open bugs, to see if the error is new or not,
[02:25] <share> so where can I learn "options snd-hda-intel"
[02:26] <ActionParsnip> AZora: minmt is based on ubuntu, so you arent't really trying much different
[02:26] <dannel> AZora, was that a question? or bashing ubuntu? :P
[02:27] <share> TiMiDo: I got my answer: modinfo snd-hda-intel
[02:27] <ActionParsnip> share: search for your system amke and model with regards to the optins, helps find what option you need (if any)
[02:27] <share> what is amke
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> share: make...typo
[02:29] <borillion>  I want to compare my hd speed to a mini-pcie sdd, do I compare the buffered speed or the cached speed of my sata hard drive?
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> share: with the context of the sentance, I thought that was ok to leave
[02:29] <j_ack> jack
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> borillion: i'd ask in #hardware
[02:29] <borillion> lol
[02:30] <AZora> ActionParsnip, dannel I like Ubuntu, but I hate dashboards, I hate automatic uninstalls of software due to a lack of package in canonical, I hate feeling like I have less control over my distro.
[02:30] <Sefid_par> Hi, I have a directory named 1 in Downloads folder and directory 1 in 1 directory, and when I try to copy it in the other directory by: "sudo cp ~/Downloads/1/1/ ~/otherdirectory" gives me error: ommiting /Home/user/Downloads/1/1/ What is my fault?
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> borillion: your question is not about ubuntu but about drive speed
[02:30] <share> ActionParsnip: still dont get system make :P
[02:30] <AZora> Sefid_par, try cp -r
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> share: is it a home build?
[02:30] <share> ye
[02:30] <Sefid_par> AZora, Thanks
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> share: ok is it onboard sound?
[02:30] <share> yes, in motherboard
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> AZora: how do you mean 'dashboards'?
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> share: ok then have a search for your motherboard make and model to see if there is an option
[02:31] <Erealz> hi everyone
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> share: also, what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[02:32] <craigbass1976> AZora, I've been giving Fedora a whirl since a little before Christmas.  I forgot how much FLIPPING FUN SELinux was...
[02:32] <vouth> How can I open a device file in a hex editor for searching?
[02:32] <Erealz> quick question how can i remove a bunch of time of the same type all at one via terminal say for example i have a bunch of .gz  files?
[02:33] <Teratogen> od /dev/whatever
[02:33] <Teratogen> ?
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> vouth: install ghex
[02:33] <Erealz> quick question how can i remove a bunch file ,all of time of the same type all at one via terminal say for example i have a bunch of .gz  files?
[02:33] <AZora> ActionParsnip, Win7, Mac, Ubuntu 11.10 all have dashboards. H8h8h8h8h8h8h8H*H*H*H*H*
[02:33] <AZora> rm *.gz
[02:33] <Erealz> ah
[02:33] <ActionParsnip> AZora: that doesn't inform me. Where is the 'dashboard' in ubuntu?
[02:33] <craigbass1976> Teratogen, ls /dev/whatever/*.gz and see if that's all the ones you want to get rid of.  If it is, then rm /dev/whatever/*.gz
[02:34] <share> ActionParsnip: lots of stuff :)
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> AZora: do you mean 'dock'
[02:34] <vouth> ActionParsnip: I have ghex2 installed. Running as root, I can only get: "Can not open file!"
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> vouth: what file are you opening?
[02:34] <vouth> ActionParsnip: In Okteta, I get an empty file.
[02:34] <AZora> ActionParsnip, I like the old school task bar and menu. I don't like the start menu in WinXP, I always use classic mode on Windows. I don't like the 11.10 menu system in ubuntu. The menu system I do like WAS REMOVED in 11.10 so I refuse to upgrade
[02:34] <vouth> ActionParsnip: /dev/sda
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> AZora: oh you mean PANEL
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> AZora: you can hack gnome3 to look like Gnome2, or install xfce4 and use xfce session
[02:35] <AZora> ActionParsnip, yeah the terminology varies by who you're talking to drastically. 'Dashboard' appears to be the most common cross platform term I've found
[02:35] <Erealz> im still learning about the commandline im wondering were i can get tips on how to master it
[02:35] <_jason> !cli | Erealz
[02:35] <ActionParsnip> AZora: in ubuntu, its a panel, lxpanel, gnome-panel
[02:35] <AZora> ActionParsnip, I looked up the directions on how to do it: "Step 1: DON'T DO IT"
[02:36] <AZora> hey I liked blackbox too
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> AZora: Go for xfce4, it looks and smells like Gnome2
[02:36] <AZora> right now I'm just refusing to upgrade, but that doesn't fix the canonical uninstall of java, the weirdness regarding apps, the increasing lack of control, etc
[02:36] <Erealz> thank ill give that man intro file a read
[02:37] <Brewster> this is the most populated channel on freenode
[02:37] <vouth> !ot | Brewster
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> AZora: dashboard appears to be a file search tool
[02:37] <Brewster> lol
[02:37] <Brewster> !guidelines
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> AZora: java is being uninstalled due to license
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> AZora: if you manually install, it won't be removed as its not in the packages :)
[02:38] <Erealz> is there anything tips or tricks to master command line im finding grep very usefull however i get the syntax layout wrong some times ?
[02:38] <_jason> Erealz: read man page?
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: the man pages help a lot
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> Erealz: or if you post your command here we may be able to help
[02:39] <Chipzzz> Erealz: "apropos" is a very helpful command
[02:39] <Erealz> chipzzz what is that/
[02:39] <AZora> Erealz, I recommend googling for the most common shell commands, grep tricks, vi tricks. I usually find something new every time I do that.
[02:40] <Chipzzz> Erealz: try, for example "apropos ftp" if you are interested in ftp commands, etc
[02:40] <vouth> ActionParsnip: Any idea on the device file thing?
[02:40] <Erealz> interisted in everything command line nowadayz
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> AZora: if you use 32bit Ubuntu I can give you a script to install 32bit oracle java 1.7_02
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> vouth: not sure there dude, i don't do any hex stuff
[02:41] <share> enable_msi : -1 | power_save : 0 | power_save_controller : Y
[02:41] <vouth> ActionParsnip: Oh well. Ok, thanks :-)
[02:41] <share> what -1 means?
[02:41] <Erealz> use to be anti terminal but now i see how cool it can be and i really want to master it
[02:41] <SomeGuy> If we are having an issue and want to ask for support do we just state that here?
[02:41] <AZora> ActionParsnip, that's ok I hacked my /etc/apt/sources.list to all hell already.
[02:41] <AZora> I'm just looking at the design choices that Ubuntu has been making in the last year and hating them all.
[02:41] <share> -1 = disabled?
[02:42] <humamiaz> hi there guys
[02:42] <alkafoo> hi here
[02:42] <humamiaz> i need some help here..
[02:42] <Chipzzz> Erealz: at that stage of the game, pick a project that involves command line programming and see it through to the end... by the time you're done, you'll be well on your way to proficiency
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> AZora: its not a package, java 1.7 can no longer be packaged due to license
[02:43] <stepnjump_> I'm trying to connect from my netbook to my desktop using remote desktop but I can't figure it out using reminna. What is the protocol?
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> AZora: Lubuntu and Xubuntu UIs are largely unchanged
[02:43] <humamiaz> i cant set a channel with my usb tl727n
[02:44] <vouth> AZora: I'm still on 10.10 and it works fine. :-P
[02:44] <humamiaz> somebody can help me with wifi
[02:44] <humamiaz> ?
[02:44] <Erealz> alright thank for the tips yall
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> humamiaz: the channel is set in your router / access point
[02:44] <humamiaz> can i pvt u?
[02:45] <humamiaz> if u wifi pro..
[02:45] <Erealz> how are you guys like the new unity interface?
[02:45] <Catty> Erealz: not sure yet
[02:45] <Sickpana> anybody can help me??
[02:45] <Chipzzz> Erealz: I like it but nobody else seems to
[02:45] <Catty> just started trying it.
[02:45] <vouth> !ask | Sickpana
[02:45] <Catty> I can see how it would be nice on a small screen
[02:46] <SomeGuy> I have Ubuntu 11 (32bit, GNOME) on the hard drive of a Toshiba Satellite with Windows 7 also on the laptop. Additionally, I have about 7 Ubuntu and Slackware distros on a USB. All boot fine but unrepairably hang when you try to go online. I have this issue regardless of what program attempts to contact the Internet. Any suggestions?
[02:46] <humamiaz> ok guys my problem is this wlan0 Unknown rt2800usb - [phy1] with wn-727n
[02:46] <kszksz> doing ./configure, 'no package 'libcurl' found' -> i install curl for ubuntu and still get this message, what do i need to do beside sudo apt-get install curl? :S
[02:46] <Sickpana> ok, first anybody speak spanish?
[02:46] <vouth> !es | Sickpana
[02:46] <erenkkk> hello
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> humamiaz: if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see access points?
[02:47] <erenkkk> i ve a problem
[02:47] <erenkkk> anyone help me?
[02:47] <Erealz> i do like it but there are some things that botherme like why cant i move the dock from left to right or from top to bottom seems a lil dumn to me that they wouldnt give the choice
[02:47] <_jason> kszksz: what are you compiling?
[02:47] <kszksz> rtorrent
[02:47] <_jason> kszksz: rtorrent is in the repositories, use apt; don't compile
[02:47] <vouth> How can I go through a device file and search for a certain string, and then poke about in the data near there for output to a file?
[02:47] <Catty> Erealz: I would not run it on my main comp which has multiple big screens.
[02:47] <JasonGriffee> i need to make a .run into a .deb, how do i do that?
[02:47] <erenkkk> amd gives me an error "amd unsupported hardware" could i find any solution?
[02:47] <_jason> JasonGriffee: a .run of what?
[02:47] <napster> How can I change Gnome shell themes?
[02:47] <puff_> Someguy: you got the onboard adapter drivers?
[02:47] <kszksz> _jason i need to have it with ./configure --with-xmlrpc-c=/usr/local/bin/xmlrpc-c-config
[02:48] <JasonGriffee> _jason, its a graphics driver
[02:48] <Erealz> i only upgrade to longterm release
[02:48] <rypervenche> JasonGriffee: Which one?
[02:48] <Catty> SomeGuy: From the symptomps I would blame the wireless driver.
[02:48] <xangua> napster: with gnome-tweak-manager
[02:48] <puff_> yup yup
[02:48] <_jason> kszksz: why?  Anyway, if you're sure you really need that and there's no way to configure the packaged version to your needs, then rebuild the source package.  See ubottu
[02:48] <SomeGuy> Puff: I'm not sure and I was wondering if it has something to do with drivers as I thought I saw something about that on a thread, Thanks. How would I get the correct ones?
[02:48] <_jason> !source > kszksz
[02:48] <kszksz> for rutorrent
[02:48] <Chipzzz> SomeGuy: off the top of my head, I'd assume the wireless drivers aren't being initialized correctly because of the boot order or something along those lines
[02:48] <JasonGriffee> _jason, ATI catalyst control
[02:48] <SomeGuy> Thanks Catty
[02:48] <_jason> !ati | JasonGriffee
[02:48] <SomeGuy> I think you may be correct
[02:49] <puff_> additional drivers are found in the software app
[02:49] <erenkkk> amd gives me an error "amd unsupported hardware" could i find any solution?
[02:49] <napster> xangua: You mean gnome-tweak-tool?
[02:49] <xangua> !ingo gnome-tweak-tool | napster
[02:49] <Erealz> im hopeing they give the choice to move the dock from left to right and vice versa cuz i mean that just dumn that i cant do that ?! it drives me baty
[02:49] <xangua> yeah, that one napster ;)
[02:49] <puff_> also do an update from the update manager
[02:50] <SomeGuy> Puff/Catty: In which software app would I find the drivers? Do you mean in Ubuntu its self? OK thanks Puff I will try updating as well, thank you.  How do I know which drivers I need or how/where to get them?
[02:50] <stepnjump_> is it possible to connect to Ubuntu remote desktop by using remina?
[02:50] <liinux> Hi...how to remove programs and libs unused of the RAM
[02:50] <Erealz> who need to connnect to there desktop remotely
[02:50] <Erealz> ?
[02:51] <puff_> Someguy: you got unity or gnome running for desktop?
[02:51] <napster> xangua: I see a warning icon near to the shell theme. No themes are shown there!
[02:51] <SomeGuy> Puff: GNOME and also KDE on one with this same problem
[02:51] <puff_> in unity it will be under das home additional drivers
[02:51] <rypervenche> stepnjump_: Yes
[02:52] <humamiaz> someone help me setting up my usb card??
[02:52] <puff_> in gnome mmm lemme see I don't use gnome
[02:52] <erenkkk> amd gives me an error "amd unsupported hardware" could i find any solution?
[02:52] <humamiaz> wn727n - tplink
[02:52] <citadelgrad>  /msg NickServ identify QuiadLily2005
[02:52] <SomeGuy> Puff: Oh ok so somewhere like that, I see, thanks.
[02:52] <puff_> gnome is nice but it's a resource hawg
[02:52] <napster> xangua: I see "Could not list shell extensions" on hover that warning image near to Shell theme
[02:53] <SomeGuy> Puff: So I go in there and then it will have drivers corresponding to my specific laptop or something?
[02:53] <puff_> yes
[02:53] <sbalmos> Not necessarily sure if this is a PulseAudio change or a VirtualBox change... I've got KUbuntu Oneiric loaded as a VBox guest under Win7. Back in 10.04 days, I could get PulseAudio to do full surround in the guest through AC97. But now, even though PulseAudio is using the AC97 driver, it's only showing the analog stereo profiles. Ideas?
[02:53] <SomeGuy> puff: Thanks so much Puff! I will go work on that for a while
[02:53] <SomeGuy> puff: Thanks again
[02:53] <erenkkk> amd gives me an error "amd unsupported hardware" could i find any solution?
[02:54] <puff_> I just fixed a l755D-7220 but I swear I do not remeber the adapters
[02:54] <JasonGriffee> _jason, how do I adapt it to 11.10?
[02:54] <puff_> I can tell you it is on the toshiba support page
[02:54] <puff_> specs for model
[02:54] <stepnjump_> rypervenche, I can connect to windows remote desktop but not to ubuntu. What is the protocol? VNC, RDP, SSH?
[02:54] <JasonGriffee> _jason, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Manually_installing_Catalyst_11.2
[02:55] <rypervenche> stepnjump_: VNC
[02:55] <rypervenche> stepnjump_: It should be running vino-server
[02:55] <stepnjump_> nothing seems to work. I must be doing something wrong
[02:55] <humamiaz> how i join the portuguese channel?
[02:56] <stepnjump_> Vino server, is that VNC or at least compatible with it?
[02:56] <erenkkk> :(:(:(
[02:56] <xangua> !pt | humamiaz
[02:56] <rypervenche> stepnjump_: Yep, have you enabled it in the Remote Desktop option?
[02:57] <fragged> Hey all, I'm looking for a way to remap a keymap on second keyboard, but not the first, can anyone suggest how this might be done? I'd prefer something non-desktop environment dependant...
[02:57] <erenkkk> amd gives me an error "amd unsupported hardware" could i find any solution?
[02:57] <Y-DNA> where's kernel Documentation folder in ubuntu? thanks a lot
[02:58] <puff_> geez I just scared myself, didn't realize I was in a root term
[02:58] <puff_> rofl
[02:58] <Y-DNA> hello?
[02:58] <puff_> Y-DNA: hello
[02:59] <Y-DNA> yes, where's kernel's Documentation directory in ubuntu?
[02:59] <Y-DNA> i'd like to know this
[02:59] <abstrakt> Y-DNA, /usr/share/doc I would imagine
[02:59] <liinux> Hi...how to remove programs and libs unused of the RAM
[02:59] <liinux> Hi...how to remove programs and libs unused of the RAM
[02:59] <liinux> Hi...how to remove programs and libs unused of the RAM
[02:59] <FloodBot1> liinux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <abstrakt> Y-DNA, you could also check the contents of the package
[03:00] <Y-DNA> I am not on ubuntu ATm
[03:00] <NotJimCarrey> if i'm trying to crosscompile a g++ app for ARMv7, which packages are needed?
[03:00] <puff_> Y-DNA most stuff is in there but info <topic> is nice too
[03:01] <Y-DNA> nope, I am talking about kernel Documentation that comes with the sources
[03:02] <stepnjump_> rypervenche: Yes I enabled it in System | preferences | remote desktop. I think I did the right thing... let me see....
[03:02] <rypervenche> stepnjump_: And you forwarded port 5900?
[03:02] <puff_> would be in the sources
[03:02] <Y-DNA> ok, better put, where does ubuntu keep kernel sources?
[03:03] <NotJimCarrey> would g++-4.6-arm-linux-gnueabi do it (along with the dependencies it adds)?
[03:03] <puff_> /usr/src
[03:03] <napster> I see a warning image next to "Shell Theme" in gnome-tweak-tool, also "Could not list shell extensions" on hover. How to fix it?
[03:03] <stepnjump_> My settings are as following in remote desktop window in Ubuntu (1 is checked, 0 is NO check) 11001
[03:03] <puff_> incljuding headers
[03:03] <stepnjump_> My settings are as following in remote desktop window in Ubuntu (1 is checked, 0 is NO check) 11001 rypervenche
[03:03] <puff_> basic inlcudes are in another dir
[03:04] <stepnjump_> no, didn't forward port. How am I supposed to do that? In the router rypervenche ?
[03:04] <rypervenche> stepnjump_: Yes
[03:04] <puff_> you need to be careful which arch you are compiling
[03:04] <stepnjump_> I will try it rypervenche. brb
[03:04] <puff_> x64 does not work well on 32 bit systems
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> puff_: replace well with 'at all'
[03:05] <puff_> rofl thnx ActionParsnip ok does not work at all
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> puff_: or can you comopile 64bit binaries on 32bit?
[03:06] <puff_> yes you can if you have the proper libraries
[03:06] <humamiaz> someone pro with wifi connections ??
[03:06] <humamiaz> pvt me pls
[03:06] <fragged> humamiaz, good luck with that..
[03:06] <puff_> but as I said it will only work on x64
[03:06] <JasonGriffee> Can someone please explain this? "Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions"
[03:07] <CarlFK> http://screenshots.debian.net/package/chromium-browser says "transitional dummy package"  - so is the one in ubuntu's repos 'good' or should I go to http://code.google.com/chromium/ ?
[03:07] <puff_> I used to build mac binaries on a windows 32 machine it all depends on your compiler and the proper libs
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> humamiaz: wep cracking is oftopic here
[03:07] <puff_> crosscompilers
[03:07] <humamiaz> ok ill leave then
[03:07] <rypervenche> CarlFK: chromium-browser has become chromium in the newer versions.
[03:08] <puff_> !wifi
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: chromium is the open source version, a snapshot is taken and added some proprietary bits and chrome is made
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: the browser is great, I use the daily build PPA :)
[03:08]  * puff_ goes back to hacking named
[03:08] <Aliv3> laugh at me if you wish ( been a while since linux ) but i forgot how to do mp3 and i dont think software center is working properly
[03:08] <resno> how do i encypt my drive after installing ubuntu?
[03:09] <Aliv3> i want to play mp3 with rythmbox
[03:09] <Y-DNA> let me correct it for you 'wep cracking is a joke'
[03:09] <puff_> Aliv3 there is an update for the software center
[03:09] <Aliv3> how do I update it?
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> Aliv3: are you using Gnome / unity desktop?
[03:09] <puff_> update manager
[03:09] <lion42> resno: reinstall ubuntu, AFAIK.
[03:09] <Aliv3> yes
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> Aliv3: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:09] <puff_> click the cog and hit update
[03:10] <Aliv3> every time i do update manager it wants to download several gigs of random stuff
[03:10] <Y-DNA> can LivuUSB ubuntu use two screens?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> Y-DNA: sure
[03:10] <puff_> lol
[03:10] <resno> Y-DNA: look who we have here :)
[03:10] <CarlFK> packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=chromium only has hardy, lucid maverick - so I guess I want the PPA?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> Y-DNA: you can do anything in liveUSB OS that an installed OS can do, except reboot
[03:10] <Y-DNA> ok
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> !info chromium-browser oneiric
[03:10] <Y-DNA> resno: uh?
[03:10] <Aliv3> nvm 90.4mb but i have a very slow internet connection ( 1.5 is max speedtest , but downloads never get that )
[03:10] <puff_> gawd I am so glad I do not have any of the problems I see you guys having
[03:11] <resno> Y-DNA: #hardware?
[03:11] <Aliv3> and i have school so i have to go in 20mins
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> CarlFK: chromium is not the browser package, chromium-browser IS the web browser
[03:11]  * resno trolls Y-DNA 
[03:11] <Y-DNA> ah right
[03:11] <puff_> but then my stuff is up to date
[03:11] <resno> ActionParsnip: can you encrtpy shares after install?
[03:11] <Aliv3> ill run it over night. oh well goodnight everyone.
[03:11] <Y-DNA> resno: I cannot avoid associating your nick with Resnov
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> resno: I have zero experience of encryptfs, imho it's not worth the headaches it causes
[03:11] <puff_> I even have mysql proftpd and drupal running hot smooth and normal
[03:12] <resno> ActionParsnip: do you not encrypt at all?
[03:12] <gaspasser> \quit
[03:12] <JasonGriffee> Can someone explain this? "Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions"
[03:12] <puff_> drupal-7.9 to be exact
[03:12] <walkeraj> gaspasser:  my thoughts exactly
[03:12] <CarlFK> ActionParsnip:  double checking: chromium-browser is the recomended thing to install to get the open source ubuntu motu blessed browswer
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> resno: no, its so annoying and long winded if you reinstall or the OS goes belly up and you are accessing from live CD
[03:12] <JasonGriffee> I used a vaild distro
[03:12] <xangua> !details | JasonGriffee
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> resno: I can't be bothered with the stupid dance which goes with it and I don't see the point.
[03:13] <puff_> JasonGriffee that is the error you see when you try to load a 64bit distro on a 32bit machine and other unsupported issues
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> resno: the fact its ofereed to new users of Linux is a mystery to me because of the issues it causes
[03:13] <resno> ActionParsnip: have you seen large issues with it?
[03:14] <puff_> rofl
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> resno: people who use raid and something goes wrong and they want to decrypt and they have no backup...
[03:14] <Noobix789> hi everyone
[03:14] <alkafoo> ActionParsnip: probably fewer issues than identity theft, etc.
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> resno: with no encryption, just boot liveCD and its all there, nice and easy
[03:14] <alkafoo> Noobix789: hi
[03:14] <stepnjump_> rypervenche: no, nothing works.... I tried to forward the port. nothing seems to do it
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: never had that happen
[03:15] <alkafoo> ActionParsnip: then it cannot possibly happen to anyone =P
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: but the number of people in here and alll the other support places where folks have to help people decrypt their data is so huge
[03:15] <rypervenche> stepnjump_: Try running "x11vnc -display :0" then doing it
[03:16] <alkafoo> ActionParsnip: yes, but the number of people everywhere who can barely spell their own names is huge
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: it takes time and explaining, and if you remmeber the target audience of ubuntu, you can imagine how fun that is
[03:16] <alkafoo> ActionParsnip: super mega fun =P
[03:16] <jcp_> what could be the cause of 100% packet loss?
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: exactly so I don't bother
[03:16] <alkafoo> jcp_: zero packets being received
[03:16] <jcp_> alkafoo: lol
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> jcp_: faulty port, bad cable, no route
[03:17] <JasonGriffee> I am trying to install a graphics driver, and I need to make a .deb out of a .run file. I use command "sudo sh ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/oneiric". Gives error: "Error: Distro Version entered incorrectly or not supported, use --listpkg to identify valid distro versions"
[03:17] <_jason> JasonGriffee: why aren't you following the directions ubottu gave you about ati drivers?
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: in short, its a pain in the ass for not much gain imho
[03:17] <alkafoo> JasonGriffee: what about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[03:18] <jcp_> ActionParsnip: Hmm, what would i look for in terms of a faulty port?
[03:18] <alkafoo> ActionParsnip: yes, but probably not as much as getting your laptop stolen with all your personal data on it, unencrypted
[03:18] <JasonGriffee> _jason, That's what I'm doing.
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> jcp_: is the cable in fully, you'll get a nice clunk when you plug in the cable
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: thats why you look after your stuff
[03:19] <_jason> JasonGriffee: why aren't you using the "recommended" procedure on that page?
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: or use cloud based stuff, then there is nothing on the system
[03:19] <alkafoo> yeah, cloud isn't asking for trouble =P
[03:19] <jcp_> ActionParsnip: Memory issues would also cause this right?
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: works great here
[03:19] <JasonGriffee> the "additional drivers" panel?
[03:20] <alkafoo> ActionParsnip: lies!
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> jcp_: possibly, also try a different port on the connection device
[03:20] <_jason> JasonGriffee: yes
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> alkafoo: personal corp clouds are great, try it
[03:21] <alkafoo> I prefer impersonal
[03:21] <JasonGriffee> _jason, because it doesn't work, it's blank
[03:21] <_jason> JasonGriffee: what's blank?
[03:21] <JasonGriffee> _jason, that panel
[03:21] <_jason> JasonGriffee: what panel...?
[03:21] <stepnjump_2> rypervenche: sorry if you replied something, I missed it. Had problems with router
[03:22] <JasonGriffee> _jason, The "additional drivers" panel, it doesn't show anything.
[03:22] <_jason> JasonGriffee: what ubuntu version and card?
[03:23] <JasonGriffee> _jason, 11.10 and ATI Radeon 9550
[03:23] <rypervenche> stepnjump_: Try running "x11vnc -display :0" then doing it
[03:24] <stepnjump_2> rypervenche: ok
[03:25] <stepnjump_2> rypervenche: on the server or client side?
[03:25] <rypervenche> x11vnc on the server
[03:25] <stepnjump_2> k
[03:25] <rypervenche> then remmina on the client
[03:25] <NotJimCarrey> if i'm trying to crosscompile a g++ app for ARMv7, which packages are needed? tried installing Sourcery G++ Lite 2011.03-41 for ARM GNU/Linux, but keep getting "Error: Missing 32-bit libraries on 64-bit Linux host"
[03:25] <rypervenche> stepnjump_2: You may wnat to turn off the Remote Desktop option in Ubuntu first
[03:25] <_jason> JasonGriffee: the file you are trying to run was likely created before oneiric was released.  So you either need to see if you can modify it or just not create a .deb
[03:26] <NotJimCarrey> ia32libs is installed
[03:26] <wolf23> hello friends
[03:26] <alkafoo> hello friend
[03:26] <wolf23> why when booting i get syn out of range
[03:26] <JasonGriffee> _jason, is there a simple way to add the ati driver?
[03:27] <_jason> JasonGriffee: I've never used ati
[03:27] <vouth> PhotoRec has an option for unformatting a FAT partition to recover one that was overwritten. Is there a way to access the directory tree of the overwritten partition?
[03:28] <SVNDR> Would anyone be able to give me step by step instructions on installing Ubunty with Universal USB Installer
[03:29] <alkafoo> SVNDR: use unetbootin.sf.net
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: does the OS eventually load OK
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: its in the repos
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> !info unetbootin
[03:30] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: whats so bad about Universal USB lol?
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: nothing, its just another optioj
[03:30] <JasonGriffee> _jason, I downloaded this file tonight, shouldn't it work?
[03:30] <alkafoo> SVNDR: I've never heard of it, and I've heard of a lot
[03:30] <_jason> JasonGriffee: my guess would be that that file is very old
[03:30] <wolf23> ActionParsnip,  yes
[03:31] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: im already creating the persistent files with Universal.. im guessing i wont be able to somehow switch? i ws going to use unetbootin the 1st time but someone warned me against it..
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: do you use nvidia or ati gpu with proprietary driver?
[03:31] <_jason> JasonGriffee: like I said, you can try installing without creating a .deb if you really want the driver
[03:31] <JasonGriffee> _jason, as a .run?
[03:31] <Catty> SVNDR: I remember using the USB installer, but it's been a while.
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: if you have a solution then its fine, it just another way to get the ISO onto the device
[03:31] <wolf23> ActionParsnip,  yes nvidia
[03:31] <chymist> Hi there. I'm getting a series of 404s when I try to update reps using apt-get as follows: http://pastebin.com/index/nqVJaQg7. Can anyone offer a solution? It worked fine previously.
[03:31] <_jason> JasonGriffee: presumably.  Read the documentation for it
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: the nvidia driver doesn't load in time to give a boot splash, that's why you get the issue. Its nothing bad as the OS does load
[03:32] <Catty> SVNDR: There is a pretty good guide somewhere, but I wouldn't be able to give you step by step.
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> chymist: karmic is EOL
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> chymist: there are no more updates for it
[03:32] <SVNDR> Catty: would you be a legend and show me the guide ;p
[03:33] <chymist> ActionParsnip: I understand that. However, I fail to see why I cannot install existing packages.
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> chymist: because the sources no longer exist
[03:33] <chymist> ActionParsnip: Any upgrade breaks my system, hence my reliance on karmic.
[03:33] <wolf23> ActionParsnip,  so keep it with showing everytime when booting the syc message?
[03:33] <ActionParsnip> chymist: tried a clean install of Oneiric?
[03:34] <chymist> ActionParsnip: Yes. Could you perhaps suggest a solution for upgrades where USB input devices are no longer supported?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: yes, there is a hack or two you can do if you are really bothered
[03:34] <polygon-pusher> It is ok to ask a mint 12 question here?
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> chymist: so the new kernels make your USB ports not work? am I reading you right?
[03:34] <polygon-pusher> or does someone know of a better chane
[03:34] <chymist> ActionParsnip: Correct.
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> !mint | polygon-pusher
[03:34] <aeon-ltd> polygon-pusher: no, unless the channel has been really quiet for a while
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> chymist: do you have the latest BIOS for your hardware?
[03:35] <chymist> ActionParsnip: Indeed.
[03:35] <wolf23> ActionParsnip,  give me your opinion
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> chymist: does your system have a make and model>
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: of what?
[03:35] <chymist> ActionParsnip: It does, but ascertaining that would be some effort.
[03:35] <meerkats> when is firefox 9 for canonical being released?
[03:36] <agoole22> I can't get my dvd's to play. I have tried running through tutorials online, but I'm at a loss
[03:36] <wolf23> ActionParsnip,  what can i do to show me the ubuntu screen image loading?
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: personally I wouldn't bother as the OS boots, its just a looks thing and the OS boots quick so its not really worth faffing around
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: if you really want: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[03:36] <agoole22> I have libdvdcss and libdvdraed4 installed, do i need anything else to play dvd's ?
[03:37] <stahlie> I'm disappointed with blender on ubuntu...it crashed on me several time... I can't imagine putting hours and hours on it then suddenly it crashed... would have to save it often.    maybe it doesn't like sony vaio graphic driver
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> chymist: sudo dmidecode -t 1    may show it
[03:37] <agoole22> stahlie: I used blender for 1 whole week without rebooting my laptop, worked fine..
[03:37] <shade34321> I have a question about du. Say I want to get the folder size of every directory inside of a dictory, for example I want the size of the directories under home, why does du home/ -h -s not work?
[03:37] <stahlie> agoole22,  what kind of graphic device do you have?
[03:38] <sbalmos> Anyone care to help with ALSA, to get it to allow 5.1 on an Intel HD audio chip? aplay -L properly lists surround51 as a possible output. But alsamixer, PulseAudio, etc all only show the stereo output
[03:38] <stahlie> agoole22, i have sony vaio and i think it's using intel graphic which it doesn't like
[03:38] <stahlie> I was following the instruction on launchpad  and  tried to make install kqrcode....got error on it...missing header file ...not sure how to resolve that
[03:38] <chymist> ActionParsnip: Got it. Suggestions?
[03:38] <stahlie> /home/matt/kqrcode-0.6.0/build/kqrcode/../../kqrcode/qrcodeclistmodel.h:33:21: fatal error: qrcodec.h: No such file or directory
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> chymist: what is the make and model please?
[03:39] <agoole22> stahlie: just running an acer, with intel graphics, nothing special
[03:39] <stepnjump_2> rypervenche: Yes your command x11vnc -display :0 worked... why is it it wasn't working before?
[03:39] <chymist> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/A3dpwrAH
[03:39] <rypervenche> stepnjump_2: I don't know. SOmething to do with your vino-server I guess. If you want the VNC server to always run, add -forever to the command
[03:40] <agoole22> does ubuntu restricted break dvd playback ?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> shade34321: du -h /home/$USER | tail -n 1
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> agoole22: no
[03:40] <JasonGriffee> can someone interpret this: Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[03:40] <JasonGriffee> default:v2:i686:lib::none:3.0.0-14-generic; make sure that the version is being
[03:40] <JasonGriffee> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[03:40] <wolf23> ActionParsnip,  thanx but whats that?
[03:40] <agoole22> JasonGriffee: looks like you're trying to install a package for the wrong distribution ?
[03:41] <stepnjump_2> ok cool rypervenche, thank you very much for your great help!
[03:41] <JasonGriffee> agoole22, i am so confused
[03:41] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: it makes the system use the fb driver which loads fast and will show the splash, when the X server loads the nvidia driver will load
[03:42] <stahlie> I've installed by sudo apt-get install build-essential libqt4-dev kdelibs5-dev and sudo apt-get install libqrencode-dev libzbar-dev libzbarqt-dev    and still i get /home/matt/kqrcode-0.6.0/build/kqrcode/../../kqrcode/qrcodeclistmodel.h:33:21: fatal error: qrcodec.h: No such file or directory  after attempting to make kqrcode        what am i doing wrong?
[03:42] <agoole22> are you setting the right distro ?
[03:42] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: that does not seem to be working for my particular needs, I was trying to go for a general question but I guess specific is better here. /storage is an array and I need to find out how big all the directories are in it
[03:42] <wolf23> ActionParsnip,  ah ok thanx
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> chymist: could try the 12.04 liveCD, see if that kernel is any nicer for you..
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> wolf23: its a bit of messing around but if a pretty boot splash is THAT important to you then go ahead and fill your boots. Personaly I'd not bother
[03:43] <chymist> ActionParsnip: I will do. Thanks.
[03:45] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: if I use du -h -s while in /storage i get the total size of /storage, if i do du storage/ -h -s I get the entire size, if I leave off the -s i get each individual folder all the way down
[03:45] <stahlie> agoole22, are you using xfce?
[03:45] <agoole22> stahlie: no
[03:45] <stahlie> agoole22, wonder if blender doesn't like xfce...which one are you using kde? or gnome?
[03:45] <agoole22> gnome
[03:46] <stahlie> so if i want to switch to gnome from xfce    how do i do this?
[03:46] <agoole22> stahlie: I ran a fresh install, and added blender. Worked fine. You could always try to install from source.
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> shade34321: Is this what you mean: http://paste.ubuntu.com/793423/
[03:46] <ActionParsnip> shade34321: or do you want all the sizes of all the folders and all the subfolders?
[03:47] <agoole22> stahlie: I'd suggest installing from source beforer dumping xfce
[03:47] <stahlie> agoole22,  i am using ubuntu studio
[03:47] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: yeah...that would work
[03:47] <shade34321> what's the * for?
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> shade34321: all the folders in pwd
[03:47] <stahlie> agoole22, from reading online, it said ubuntu studio is best for multimedia
[03:47] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: that's what i was missign then...thank you:)
[03:47] <agoole22> stahlie: yeah, but that doesn't prevent you from building blender from the source code.
[03:48] <shade34321> ActionParsnip: and du -sh * | sort -n &> file.text would copy it to a file in descending order right?
[03:48] <agoole22> anyone have troubles with dvd's on 11.10 ?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> shade34321: sounds good to me
[03:49] <agoole22> my laptop will read them fine, but won't play them
[03:49] <shade34321> cool..thank you
[03:49] <stahlie> agoole22, okay i'll try building blender ... so do i need to remove blender first?  (pardon me i'm somewhat newbie)
[03:49] <wolf23> ActionParsnip,  thank you friend so i keep it if not necessary
[03:49] <alkafoo> agoole22: what's the difference?
[03:50] <agoole22> alkafoo: I can see the files on the dvd, the structure, but they won't play.
[03:50] <shade34321> meh...didn't quite work out...the sort is messed up...but i can at leat read it
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> agoole22: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libdvdread4; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh; sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> shade34321: nice
[03:50] <agoole22> stahlie: yeah, save your work, and delete it, and build from source, I would suggest
[03:51] <stahlie> agoole22, so what's the best way to delete blender?   I can take it from there
[03:52] <agoole22> stahlie: terminal, sudo apt-get remove blender
[03:53] <agoole22> ActionParsnip: does that need a reboot after? no ?
[03:54] <agoole22> ActionParsnip: I still get the error, a dvd decription isn't installed
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> agoole22: no, just rerun your player if it is loaded
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> agoole22: what players have you tried?
[03:54] <stahlie> agoole22, okay  so after that...do i download tar.gz    or do the apt-get?
[03:54] <agoole22> VLC, Dragon, mplayer,
[03:54] <agoole22> stahlie: follow the .tar.gz instructions
[03:54] <mophead> Real simple question. I"m trying to update xchat and I don't understand what to do with this page: http://xchat.org/download/ What exactly do I do wnload?
[03:55] <alkafoo> mophead: nothing
[03:55] <alkafoo> mophead: use your package manager
[03:55] <mophead> I'm trying to update to a newer version though
[03:55] <dannel> mophead, wait a few months
[03:56] <dannel> mophead, the most recent release is 2.8.8? 20 months ago
[03:57] <alkafoo> mophead: why's that?
[03:57] <mophead> yep, I'm using 2.8.6
[03:57] <|multipass|> How do you set a keycombo for Synapse?
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> mophead: there may be a ppa
[03:57] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | mophead
[03:57] <alkafoo> |multipass|: synapse?
[03:57] <|multipass|> kinda like gnome do, alkafoo
[03:57] <dannel> strange, i installed from packages and have 2.8.8 (using 11.04)
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> mophead: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[03:58] <mophead> lucid
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-do | |multipass|
[03:59] <|multipass|> nono, synapse
[03:59] <alkafoo> |multipass|: the same way you create a keycombo for anything else, no doubt
[03:59] <jark>  大家好
[03:59] <xangua> |multipass| you can set it on synapse preferences
[03:59] <|multipass|> xangua: im having trouble finding ht epreferences
[04:00] <jark> where are you come from
[04:00] <jark> god
[04:02] <|multipass|> lol nice its a official bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/synapse-project/+bug/685666, "hard to discover preferences"
[04:02] <agoole22> ActionParsnip: Got it, for some reason ubuntu changed my region set on my drive.
[04:03] <mophead> so how would I go about upgrading from 2.6.8 to 2.8.8 ?
[04:03] <alkafoo> mophead: open package manager, check for updates
[04:03] <mophead> check where?
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> mophead: try:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:carsten-uppenbrink-net/c-uppenbrink; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: d'oh
[04:04] <alkafoo> mophead: should be obvious
[04:04] <rlmccormick> hi all, what file would I look into to modify the directory that my terminal window starts in?
[04:04] <mophead> I searched for xchat and I don't see something about updates
[04:04] <dannel> put a cd in ~/.bashrc?
[04:04] <alkafoo> rlmccormick: where is it you'd like it to start?
[04:05] <alkafoo> mophead: then maybe you haven't any
[04:05] <rlmccormick> i'd like to start in my home directory  ~
[04:05] <alkafoo> rlmccormick: that isn't where it's starting now?
[04:05] <rlmccormick> it currently starts in ~/Desktop which seems odd
[04:05] <alkafoo> interesting
[04:05] <alkafoo> rlmccormick: grep -i desktop ~/.bash*
[04:05] <dannel> that's very suspiciously odd :-s
[04:06] <rlmccormick> kk i'll try that, i looked in .bachrc and didn;t see anything but i am a bash noob
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> rlmccormick: at the bottom of ~/.bashrc   just add the command:  cd $HOME    or wherever you want to start
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> rlmccormick: after editting, run:  source ~/.bashrc
[04:07] <alkafoo> mmm, but check the command I gave first =P
[04:07] <rlmccormick> makes sense, thanks
[04:07] <|multipass|> Does anyone know a solution to amdcccle crashing when trying to apply settings? I'm running in terminal, and no error is reported. Ive also tried to attack a monitor to the process, which also doesnt report any error.
[04:07] <rlmccormick> the grep didn;t return anything that looks like the culprit
[04:08] <share> is acpi-support for laptop or any computer?
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> rlmccormick: .bashrc is executed when you start a terminal, so you can add the cd command and it will be ok
[04:08] <rlmccormick> i just added it to the .bashrc
[04:08] <rlmccormick> thx
[04:08] <|multipass|> Im trying to apply some dual monitors in amdccle for reference
[04:09] <mophead> thanks ActionParsnip, I think it's working
[04:09] <dj_segfault> Hi, folks.  I'm trying to run apache2 -S but it reports "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}".  How do I run this?
[04:09] <alkafoo> share: not limited to laptops
[04:10] <share> alkafoo: I have acpid running so I should leave acpi-support?
[04:10] <alkafoo> leave?
[04:10] <share> yes at boot
[04:10] <share> leave enabled
[04:12] <Chipzzz> dj_segfault: apache should start at boot but if you have to start it manually, it's "gksudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl graceful"
[04:12] <dj_segfault> Chipzzz: I'm not trying to start it.  I'm trying to debug virtual host problem with -S parameter
[04:13] <dj_segfault> -S     Show the settings as parsed from the config file (currently only shows the virtualhost settings).
[04:13] <smeding> hi everyone, question. running oneiric, updated today and my sound just broke. i'm having trouble diagnosing the issue, seems everything is fine at the kernel module end but goes wrong somewhere between there and pulseaudio
[04:14] <jschall> Having bluetooth problems as detailed in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11587773#post11587773 - any insight appreciated.
[04:15] <smeding> it's an Intel HDA chip, used to work fine before, i can see stuff in /proc/asound/ that makes sense... aplay -l sees no soundcards
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> smeding: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[04:16] <smeding> that does not seem to have done anything -- anything required after that?
[04:16] <smeding> it should be mentioned this is a pretty non-standard set-up... running the awesome wm so most of the stuff gnome/unity/whatever do isn't done
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> smeding: wait 5 seconds or so after the command completes, then run:  alsamixer  and ensure all levels are cranked and unmuted, the command doesn't output anything if that's what you mean
[04:17] <Chipzzz> dj_segfault:  "sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl -S"
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> smeding: sound is nothing to do with the WM
[04:17] <franzks> Hello, I am following this tutorial because I have the same laptop: http://eftakhairul.com/adjust-the-brightness-on-acer-aspire-4740-in-ubuntu/ the problem is the tutorial is asking me to update my bios through running an .exe in windows then reboot to ubuntu. How can I do this if I already removed Windows?
[04:17] <smeding> yeah, i figured as much, just thinking of what may seem relevant
[04:17] <smeding> ActionParsnip: alsamixer still cannot open my mixer device
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> smeding: fair enough :)
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> smeding: ok can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> franzks: then you'll need a windows OS to update it. You may need to install Windows to update your BIOS
[04:19] <franzks> ActionParsnip: Damnit, is there no other choice? This is so irritating
[04:20] <smeding> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Rbt5iGfZ
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> franzks: poor support frmo the manufacturer. I can update my dell BIOS in Ubuntu just dandy :)
[04:21] <smeding> franzks: i haven't looked at the exe, but these things are sometimes DOS-style binaries -- in that case you can run it in something like freedos
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> smeding: does the system have a make and model or is it a home build?
[04:22] <smeding> ActionParsnip: home build, yeah
[04:22] <Aric> i keep getting failed to retrieve packages with aptoget on 10.04 lts
[04:22] <franzks> smeding: thanks for the info, I'll try it
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> smeding: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure  try the oneiric command there
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> Aric: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update       Thanks
[04:25] <smeding> that's installing a lot of junk i don't need, but let's hope there's something i do need in there
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> smeding: don't add the ubuntu-desktop package, you don't really need it
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> smeding: you can stop it if it's at the download stage
[04:26] <smeding> too late :)
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> smeding: oh, is it installing now>?
[04:26] <smeding> i'll just rip out whatever i don't need again
[04:26] <smeding> yeah
[04:26] <smeding> fairly fast disk
[04:27] <y-chrmsm-adam> hey
[04:27] <y-chrmsm-adam> wurup fellas
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> smeding: and connection apparently too, what you on 100Mb ;)
[04:27] <y-chrmsm-adam> how secure is chatting from LiveUbuntu?
[04:27] <smeding> ActionParsnip: 40 :)
[04:27] <y-chrmsm-adam> seems to lack passwerd
[04:27] <Aric> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/3129040
[04:27] <Aric> thats all of it
[04:27] <|multipass|> Does anyone know a solution to amdcccle crashing when trying to apply settings to dual monitors? I'm running in terminal, and no error is reported. Ive also tried to attack a monitor to the process, which also doesnt report any error.
[04:28] <Aric> ActionParsnip: tasksel fails, apt-get fails, but update seems to be fine
[04:28] <smeding> ActionParsnip: i get this: E: Internal Error, No file name for libasound2
[04:28] <[deXter]> y-chrmsm-adam, What do you mean by secure?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> smeding: looks like the disk helps, I'm on 50 and its not that fast
[04:29] <y-chrmsm-adam> can I be haxored?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> smeding: install apt-fast from ppa, makes updates flyyyyy
[04:29] <y-chrmsm-adam> is it normal for pulseaudio to go haywire??
[04:29] <y-chrmsm-adam> pulseaudio went haywire with a youtube vid.
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Aric: did you run:  sudo apt-get update    first
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> smeding: remove it from the command :)
[04:30] <y-chrmsm-adam> [deXter]: can I be haxored? on LiveUSB?
[04:30] <y-chrmsm-adam> just rebooted and now I am on LiveUSB enjoying some sound.
[04:30] <taranto> someone has a tutorial with links to lift two BGP session?
[04:30] <taranto> quagga + bgp
[04:31] <joallard> My display lags like hell, how do I diagnose it?
[04:31] <Aric> ActionParsnip: you're the man
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Aric: :D
[04:32] <y-chrmsm-adam> how on earth does a display 'lag'???
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> joallard: what GPU do you use?
[04:32] <joallard> ActionParsnip: Nvidia Quadro 1000M with the 290.10 drivers
[04:32] <y-chrmsm-adam> interesting, nouveau works with this new card.
[04:32] <joallard> i.e. not nouveau
[04:32] <y-chrmsm-adam> I meant with mine
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> joallard: do you use 2 video cards in a laptop?
[04:34] <joallard> Nope.
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> joallard: good :)
[04:34] <joallard> I wonder how I could do that ha
[04:35] <stepnjump_2> Now that I finally connect to my RDP, may anyone tell me if there is a quicker way to switch between windows other than alt-tab? Because I have compiz installed and it takes forever. A static switcher would be preferable, even a terminal based application. Any suggestions?
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> joallard: can you give the output of: sudo lshw -C display; dpkg -l | grep nvidia; xrandr; cat /etc/lsb-release
[04:35] <Huene[istaken]> Is there a way to remove the password of a user that is different than general linux? "sudo passwd --delete USER" results in "passwd: password expiry information changed." but doesn't appear to actually clear the password
[04:35] <joallard> ActionParsnip,  Wow that's quite the command ;)
[04:36] <iToast> Hi
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> joallard: its not that fancy really, use http://pastie.org (or similar) to host
[04:36] <iToast> Im curios.
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> stepnjump_2: configure the switcher you have enabled to be faster, set 0 time for the anim to happen
[04:36] <iToast> Could you get a free untaken domain if you own your own dns server..
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> iToast: sure, you don't even need a DNS server
[04:37] <iToast> ActionParsnip: What do you mean
[04:37] <iToast> I mean like .com, .net, .***
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> iToast: sure, you can get a free one at www.no-ip.com
[04:38] <Huene[istaken]> iToast, yes, but only machines that make use of your DNS server will be able to find it
[04:38] <joallard> ActionParsnip: https://gist.github.com/a561adc4f10c2d5380bc
[04:38] <iToast> Huene[istaken]: Then whats the point of having a dns server
[04:39] <iToast> ActionParsnip: BOO no-ip can go die.
[04:39] <iToast> I use dyndns.
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> iToast: same differenxcew
[04:39] <iToast> no
[04:39] <iToast> Dyndns has compatibility with all popular routers, no-ip doesn't.
[04:39] <Huene[istaken]> well I personally need it to allow for internal routing for example I have a website that forwards properly from the outside, but I need to use the internal DNS server to allow my internal machines to find it without reconfiguring every machine
[04:40] <Huene[istaken]> there are more common uses of course, but that's what I use mine for
[04:40] <iToast> Huene[istaken]: :/
[04:40] <smeding> ActionParsnip: interesting, it worked... but it introduced some weird graphics corruption
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> iToast: there is the package noip2 which can rjun on your server
[04:40] <iToast> Huene[istaken]: Lets make our own internet :P
[04:40] <iToast> ActionParsnip: No.
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> iToast: which will be running as long as your service is available..
[04:40] <iToast> I don't run extra crapware on my server when My router can do the tack
[04:40] <iToast> task*
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> iToast: its insanely light and runs once every 30 mins, it sends nearly as much traffic as PING does
[04:41] <Huene[istaken]> does anyone know the proper syntax to remove a password from a user? sudo passwd --delete USER doesn't appear to do the trick
[04:41] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Still wont.
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> iToast: its still the same style of service, name to IP
[04:41] <iToast> ActionParsnip: No.
[04:41] <iToast> My router can do that task.
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> iToast: irrellevant, anyway you have a name to IP conversion
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> iToast: which is what you need, whoever does it or however is moot
[04:42] <iToast> ActionParsnip: no :p
[04:42] <iToast> Anyways, lets make our own internet XD
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> iToast: it'd be an intranet :)
[04:42] <iToast> ActionParsnip: wana do it/
[04:43] <iToast> Sopa pisses me off, and im canadian!
[04:43] <joallard> ActionParsnip: I have two different driver versions installed, is that problematic?
[04:43] <iToast> Anyays, can my ubuntu server cache stuff, so my desktop requests to it first then it gets stuff from the web
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> iToast: so if you have dydns, why would you need anything else, you don't need a DNS server unless you want to accellerate your web access mildly
[04:44] <iToast> ActionParsnip: How mildly?
[04:44] <iToast> Also, would it be able to cache pages for faster loading..
[04:44] <todd_dsm> enjoy:   http://news.cnet.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> iToast: if you install a caching proxy then yes
[04:44] <Balthazar> ActionParsnip: iToast: http://thehackernews.com/2012/01/hackers-launching-own-satellites-in.html
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> iToast: local DNS means systems don't use the web (slow) for DNS, they can use LAN (fast) first
[04:45] <iToast> Balthazar: thats were my idea is from.
[04:45] <Chipzzz> joallard: i have a feeling you're not loading an nVidia driver & using a vesa driver instead... that would explain why it's so slow
[04:45] <iToast> ActionParsnip: So just translates into a ip faster
[04:45] <regint> Hi,  kernel is getting stuck at kernel_thread_helper? I tried meego and ubuntu live cd, but getting same error. What could be the problem? Previously, it was booting.
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> iToast: yes, makes translation take 2ms rather than about 30ms. I put a DNS on ALL my end systems so it takes 0ms, I use dnsmasq
[04:46] <joallard> Chipzzz: let's have a look at my Xorg.log: https://gist.github.com/b9c6f7e2ff404b48e6a8
[04:46] <Balthazar> iToast: For 200 bucks for a ground unit, I would really consider it
[04:46] <iToast> Damn!
[04:46] <iToast> Balthazar: I have a thin client with a gigabit connection
[04:46] <iToast> Ubuntu box Freenas box...
[04:46] <iToast> and I got 6 more machines to spare
[04:47] <interlude> Is there a log that will show what security updates I have applied to my system?
[04:47] <y-chrmsm-adam> hey
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> interlude: /var/log/dpkg.log if memory serves
[04:47] <y-chrmsm-adam> how to search for description of a package with apt-cache??
[04:47] <y-chrmsm-adam> I am interested in knowing.
[04:47] <joallard> y-chrmsm-adam: apt-cache show?
[04:47] <interlude> ActionParsnip: cool thx
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> iToast: a local apt-cache will increase update times too (over LAN again)
[04:47] <iToast> Any tutorials.
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> iToast: saves all your systems accessing updates from the web
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> iToast: there are loads online
[04:48] <y-chrmsm-adam> no I want to search for this string in description 'youtube'
[04:48] <iToast> ActionParsnip: I am going to setup a proxy
[04:48] <iToast> Moxy Proxy
[04:48] <iToast> Making fun of the IT's since 2012
[04:48] <y-chrmsm-adam> as a matter fact, what's a youtube dowloader app? in gentoo there's youtube-dl which is awesome CLI app.
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> !info polipo
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> polio is super easy
[04:49] <Thunderkiss65> I love youtube-dl
[04:49] <y-chrmsm-adam> Thunderkiss65: how to install on ubuntu?
[04:49] <Thunderkiss65> I forgot the repo let me look
[04:50] <y-chrmsm-adam> I can't believe ain't in the repos
[04:50] <Chipzzz> joallard: it looks like it does load the vesa driver
[04:51] <joallard> Okay, how do I solve that?
[04:51] <iToast> Hey
[04:51] <y-chrmsm-adam> how do I run an .asc file?
[04:51] <iToast> Can I cluster freenas and ubuntu server, both are debain based.
[04:51] <joallard> Chipzzz: It looks like it's using nouveau too, is it?
[04:52] <alkafoo> y-chrmsm-adam: probably a text file
[04:52] <y-chrmsm-adam> I got it, is like this python youtube-dl.asc
[04:52] <y-chrmsm-adam> amazing!! youtube-dl is just a script!!
[04:52] <alkafoo> it's probably for verifying the authenticity of the script
[04:53] <Chipzzz> joallard: no, at 34.909 it unloads the nVidia drivers & loads vesa
[04:53] <alkafoo> with pgp or the like
[04:53] <y-chrmsm-adam> youtube-dl.asc IS the program --> http://rg3.github.com/youtube-dl/download.html
[04:53] <alkafoo> although if you got it from the same locadtion as the script, it's not quite as useful
[04:54] <Chipzzz> joallard: whoops... scratch that...
[04:54] <joallard> Chipzzz: yeah haha I was scratching my head a little
[04:54] <alkafoo> y-chrmsm-adam: nope, that just has 'youtube-dl'
[04:54] <alkafoo> maybe you renamed it
[04:55] <y-chrmsm-adam> oh lol, I see, I did "save as" and .asc was set as automatic extension
[04:55] <y-chrmsm-adam> my bad
[04:55] <y-chrmsm-adam> where's the proper place to put that script?
[04:55] <alkafoo> y-chrmsm-adam: nowhere, install it with your package manager
[04:56] <stepnjump_2> sorry actionparsnip, I just saw your message.. yes it's very slow because I have compiz installed and running
[04:56] <y-chrmsm-adam> then create some 'alias youtube-dl=python /path/to/youtube-dl'
[04:56] <WebGoddess008> i ended up installing xubuntu after all
[04:56] <y-chrmsm-adam> alkafoo: is NOT in the repos
[04:56] <alkafoo> y-chrmsm-adam: it is
[04:56] <y-chrmsm-adam> aint
[04:56] <alkafoo> y-chrmsm-adam: it is, you might need to enable 'universe'
[04:56] <y-chrmsm-adam> oh I see
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> !info youtube-dl
[04:56] <alkafoo> don't ask me what that's all about, because I don't know =P
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> its in universe
[04:57] <Chipzzz> joallard: looks like it's using NV-GLX, but why not try lsmod & see for sure
[04:57] <dr_willis> !info alkafoo
[04:57] <alkafoo> dr_willis: this is quite disturbing =P
[04:57] <Thunderkiss65> well I guess youtube-dl is in the ubuntu repositories now.
[04:57] <dr_willis> :)
[04:57] <Huene[istaken]> does anyone know the proper way to remove a password in ubuntu
[04:57] <alkafoo> y-chrmsm-adam: however for the record, you'd put something like that into /usr/local/bin/
[04:57] <joallard> Chipzzz: nothing like nv-glx in lsmod, the only thing i found was "vesafb"
[04:57] <joallard> (not to mention 'nvidia')
[04:58] <alkafoo> y-chrmsm-adam: more complex (multiple-file) programs are more complex to use without the package manager
[04:58] <alkafoo> Huene[istaken]: what for
[04:58] <Chipzzz> joallard: really?!? if it actually is using the vesa driver, then that explains the problem
[04:58] <Huene[istaken]> for a custom shell
[04:58] <dr_willis> Huene[istaken]:  disable an account. or to allow passwordless logins
[04:58] <Huene[istaken]> allow passwordless logins
[04:59] <Huene[istaken]> from the shell
[04:59] <joallard> Chipzzz: well if we found it, i'm glad. how do I take it off?
[04:59] <Thunderkiss65> I have a slow internet connection so i just find videos i want to watch, put the links in a text file then youtube-dl -c -a URLs
[04:59] <Mechdave> Huene[istaken], You should be able to do it with login manager
[04:59] <dr_willis> from the shell... you mean console?
[04:59] <Huene[istaken]> meant console yes,
[04:59] <Huene[istaken]> well technically from ssh
[04:59] <alkafoo> Thunderkiss65: pretty silly how poor those Flash video players are at buffering, eh?
[04:59] <WebGoddess008> i ended up on the thunderbird-next ppa, i hope that is stable enough
[04:59] <Huene[istaken]> but yeah
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> joallard: did you make the pastebin?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> WebGoddess008: should be ok
[05:00] <joallard> ActionParsnip: I did multiple, about what?
[05:00] <Thunderkiss65> yeah youtube sucks for dialup
[05:00] <joallard> many*
[05:00] <Mechdave> Huene[istaken], are you running desktop or server?
[05:00] <dr_willis> ssh has that key feature to allow nopassword logins..
[05:00] <Huene[istaken]> desktop,
[05:00] <WebGoddess008> i'd like to know how i go and archive all this old email and still end up with over 8 gigs for my mail folder lmao
[05:00] <Huene[istaken]> I havn't had a need to install server yet
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> joallard: were you having the issue with the quattro 1000 earler?
[05:00] <Chipzzz> joallard: I think they recommend a complete removal & reinstallation for proprietary video driver problems... let me check around
[05:01] <joallard> ActionParsnip: though we found out with Chipzzz I had 'vesafb' loaded
[05:01] <Huene[istaken]> yes which requires extra work on the users end, the goal is to reduce the extra work done by those connecting
[05:01] <joallard> Chipzzz: what's weird is that I did it from a clean install...
[05:01] <joallard> Like 2 days ago
[05:01] <jin> Can anyone help me with a network issue?
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> jin: with details, maybe ;)
[05:02] <jin> great, give me a sec il just post some stuff to pastebin
[05:02] <rlmccormick> is that stuff related to the network issue? lol
[05:02] <jin> yeah,
[05:03] <Mechdave> Huene[istaken], The user is connecting from the box that you want to login automatically? Or are they connecting to a box thst you want to login on boot?
[05:03] <Huene[istaken]> Mechdave I want a user to telnet or ssh to the box, enter the username, and just connect
[05:04] <oYeVoVeYo> haso, it's funny I can use wired network on Windows, but when I switch to ubuntu, I can't. :( any idea how to fix that?
[05:04] <oYeVoVeYo> ha*
[05:04] <Huene[istaken]> Mechdave I'm aware of the security implications, they're not connecting to a shell
[05:04] <Mechdave> Huene[istaken], You would be best off using ssh and using encrypted keys for authentication
[05:04] <iToast> hey
[05:04] <iToast> what do I do with my ubuntu server's extra power
[05:05] <Huene[istaken]> -nod- that's a step backwards, I'm attemping to reduce the amount of work people need to do
[05:05] <Mechdave> Huene[istaken], I would use ssh regardless... It suffers less from man in the middle attacks
[05:05] <Chipzzz> joallard: a clean system install & then proprietary driver install with jockey?
[05:05] <Huene[istaken]> -nod- ssh is my goal anyway, due to compression,
[05:05] <joallard> Chipzzz: exactly.
[05:05] <Huene[istaken]> but it's a bonus not a requirement
[05:05] <jin> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/tMRNunrD shows the output of ethtool, on 2 different systems on fedora, both are connected with cat5e cables to a cisco gigabit switch, but with filezilla and rsync i still seem to be getting only megabit transfer speeds, ie not more than 12MBs, but they show thatt hey are connected at gigabit speeds? am i mistaken? if not what should i try next? i hdparmed all the disks, and they are all above 30MBs most ar
[05:05] <jin> e close to 100.
[05:06] <Chipzzz> joallard: that is wierd!
[05:06] <joallard> Chipzzz, Then I installed the fresher drivers from a ppa
[05:06] <joallard> It is
[05:06] <Thunderkiss65> Huene[istaken]: http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/
[05:06] <iToast> Hey
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> jin: how is this related to ubuntu?
[05:06] <iToast> What should I do with my server's extra power
[05:06] <Chipzzz> joallard: ah! maybe the fresher drivers did it...
[05:06] <jin> ActionParsnip, it doesnt, im in the wrong chanel... :p sorry...
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> iToast: folding at home, set etc
[05:07] <Mechdave> iToast, You could donate the extra cpu cycles
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> jin: thanks :)
[05:07] <iToast> To what?
[05:07] <Huene[istaken]> thank you thunder, though I will use a password before I use a key, due it being less intrusive
[05:07] <joallard> Chipzzz,  Besides uninstalling the 'updates' drivers, what should I do?
[05:07] <Huene[istaken]> thank you Thunderkiss65 , though I will use a password before I use a key, due it being less intrusive
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> iToast: donate cpu cycles to what I mentioned
[05:07] <Mechdave> iToast, NASA or genome project
[05:07] <iToast> Can I donate it to a compiling cluster?
[05:07] <iToast> Something useful.
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> iToast: folding at home helps cure cancer and other terminal illnesses
[05:08] <iToast> ActionParsnip: How?
[05:08] <iToast> Its simulating stuff and not getting us anywere.
[05:08] <iToast> Doctors who are doing experimental procedures with patients are getting us far!
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> iToast: medical research needs a lot of grunt, you can contribute power to procesing stuff for them
[05:09] <iToast> ActionParsnip: it doesn't need 8billion pcs...
[05:09] <iToast> :p
[05:09] <Chipzzz> joallard: Anyway... here's the ubuntu page about nVidia drivers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual . I would start with the section on "Uninstalling the Driver" down at the bottom and then do a clean driver install
[05:09] <dannel> why not save the electricity and donate money to some charity which creates patent-free medications?
[05:10] <joallard> Chipzzz, well for the -updates, I'm just going to remove the packages
[05:10] <Mechdave> Huene[istaken], I suppose you could log them in using password and then find a way to push the keys and do a remote setup on the client
[05:10] <iToast> Is there a such thing as a compiling cluster, like you donate your resources to projects like xorg so they cluster you for compiling
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> iToast: it needs all it can get, its the largest distributed computing systen on the planet
[05:10] <ramadana> hello all
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> iToast: possibly, not sure
[05:11] <ramadana> can you help me please
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> ramadana: ask and see
[05:11] <joallard> Chipzzz: and reinstall the more recent ones
[05:11] <ramadana> please help me sir ?
[05:11] <Chipzzz> joallard: I would be reluctant to do it that way... nVidia bundles an uninstaller with their drivers... i'd use that
[05:11] <joallard> Chipzzz: only for the binary installer, not the packaged ones
[05:11] <Mechdave> ramadana, just ask your question :)
[05:11] <ramadana> i cannot use my vga driver in ubuntu 10.04 .... some baody help me ?
[05:12] <iToast> I setup my freenas box as a ftp server. it doesn't allow shell access
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> iToast: FAH is currently at 6 petaflops :)
[05:12] <iToast> Should I do the same with my ubuntu box
[05:12] <oYeVoVeYo> I'm facing the same problem ramadana
[05:12] <ramadana> my vga driver is NVIDIA
[05:12] <iToast> ActionParsnip: My router does 6 peta flops
[05:12] <joallard> Chipzzz: I have already dealt with the official nvidia installer, and I'm not going there anymore ;) When I say 'fresh install', well it was caused by an nvidia installer f-up
[05:12] <ramadana> i cannot install it
[05:12] <iToast> Call me when you got 6 exoflops
[05:12] <joallard> due to
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> iToast: i doubt it, the fastest computer when FAH reached 6 petaflops was at 8.12 petaflops
[05:13] <Chipzzz> joallard: That's where it gets tricky... There's a troubleshooting section on the page I linked that should help...
[05:13] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Exoflops or gtfo :P
[05:13] <ramadana> some body can help me please ?
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> iToast: it's exaflop, not exoflop
[05:13] <ramadana> can you speak indonesia please ?
[05:14] <iToast> same difference
[05:14] <Mechdave> ramadana, what is the display looking like?
[05:14] <joallard> Chipzzz: the page you linked is "nvidia *manual*" which is not my case. I'm dealing with packaged drivers, not manual install
[05:14] <ramadana> I new bie in ubuntu linux
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> iToast: an exoflop isn't a thing, so its not the same in any way
[05:14] <iToast> ...
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> !indonesian
[05:14] <Mechdave> ramadana, what does your screen look like when ubuntu is running?
[05:15] <ramadana> so i can not how to install my driver vga nvidia in my laptop ...... please help me ?
[05:15] <balleyne> my launcher has disappeared for all accounts, even when logging and out or restarting X (Alt + Print Screen + k). compiz --replace didn't fix it. A total restart does, but I'd rather not do that. How can I restart whatever controls the launcher?
[05:15] <Chipzzz> joallard: the page is the manual for installing/removing nVidia proprietary drivers
[05:15] <Mechdave> ramadana, is it blank or backlight only or does it show something?
[05:15] <ramadana> i cannot use some application in ubuntu 10.04
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> ramadana: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[05:15] <oYeVoVeYo> I can use wired network on Windows, but when I switch to ubuntu, I can't. :( any idea how to fix that??? PLz help meh, :/
[05:15] <joallard> Chipzzz: sorry, but that's wrong, it's for installing via the "manual installer"
[05:15] <ramadana> just blank ....... black
[05:15] <Mechdave> ramadana, what exactly are you trying to run?
[05:15] <joallard> Chipzzz: "This is not the recommended way to install the NVIDIA drivers - please see BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia for the supported method."
[05:16] <ramadana> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  ...... what this is ?
[05:16] <oYeVoVeYo> ramdom, type it in the terminal
[05:16] <ramadana> in terminal
[05:16] <Mechdave> ramadana, We can't help you unless we know exactly what you are trying to do
[05:16] <ramadana> oh no .......
[05:16] <ramadana> please help me
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> iToast: IBM are proposing a 20 petaflop system very soon. I don't think exaflops will be too far away :)
[05:16] <iToast> ActionParsnip: These are wasteful.
[05:17] <ramadana> I CAN NOT TYPE MY HOMEWORK
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> ramadana: yes in terminal, just copy and paste to the terminal and hit enter
[05:17] <iToast> Why do we need to do this with cpus?
[05:17] <oYeVoVeYo> :( Can somebody help me to fix my problem????
[05:17] <iToast> we can achieve exaflops with gpus.
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> iToast: research
[05:17] <ramadana> ok I will copy & paste in the terminal
[05:17] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Gpu's are better for this!!!
[05:17] <ramadana> so after I type the commad ... hit enter yaaa
[05:18] <ramadana> please indonesia languange .... this I use google terjemahan .... I can speak english .... he he he .. soryy
[05:18] <Chipzzz> joallard: is there no uninstaller with the jockey-installed version?
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> iToast: i doubt any desktop GPU can run a thousand times faster than the worlds fastest super computer
[05:18] <oYeVoVeYo> ...I'm officially ignored, ouch
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> ramadana: its that simple, copy and paste
[05:18] <joallard> Chipzzz: I guess it's jockey...
[05:18] <iToast> ActionParsnip: I didn't say use one.
[05:18] <WebGoddess008> hey oYeVoVeYo what's the issue
[05:19] <iToast> 1 Gpu can have the power of 2 cpus!
[05:19] <ramadana> guys ........ why this bluescreen ......
[05:19] <oYeVoVeYo> Umm, I can use wired network on Windows, but when I switch to ubuntu, I can't. :( any idea how to fix that?
[05:19] <Chipzzz> joallard: sorry... software center
[05:19] <oYeVoVeYo> And @ WebGoddess008, thanks for the rescue, lol
[05:19] <ramadana> guys ........ why this bluescreen ......
[05:19] <ramadana> oh no ..... OMG
[05:20] <Mechdave> ramadana, Don't panic, it is a licence agreement screen
[05:20] <joallard> Chipzzz: I just ran 'nvidia-xconfig', I feel that's going to get me somewhere
[05:20] <WebGoddess008> perhaps you need proprietary drivers, have you tried installing those
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> iToast: the nvidia GTX 580 has a 772Mhz GPU...
[05:20] <ramadana> hai guy's ...... why this very slow ........
[05:21] <iceroot> is there a way to disable access for a specific ip for all services WITHOUT iptables?
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> ramadana: you haven't installed your video driver
[05:21] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Its not about clock speed.
[05:21] <ramadana> hai guy's ...... why this very slow ........
[05:21] <Mechdave> ramadana, Just use <tab> key  to highlight ok and then hit enter
[05:21] <iToast> Its about how it proccess data.
[05:21] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Lets say we have a dual core cpu.
[05:21] <iToast> And we have a dual core gpu
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> iToast: in flop = floating-point operations per second
[05:21] <oYeVoVeYo> WebGoddess008, I can't install any drivers when I can't connect to the internet :/
 and what your means ... ??
[05:21] <Chipzzz> joallard: my concern is that in the past I've heard of a lot of problems caused by half-uninstalled and half-configured proprietary video drivers
[05:21] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Listen
[05:21] <balleyne> my Unity Launcher is missing. It won't come back until I restart my whole computer. How can I restart just the part that controls the launcher?
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> iToast: so its pure brute speed
[05:21] <iToast> We gotta think of it like this.
[05:21] <Mechdave> ramadana, Tab key
[05:22] <iToast> The cpu has the os and software to run.
[05:22] <ramadana> mechdave : <tab> + key
[05:22] <iToast> The gpu will just be doing hte math.
[05:22] <iToast> Your loosing the power of the cpu but not the gpu.
[05:22] <Mechdave> ramadana, No just <tab>
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> iToast: at less than 800Mhz GPU is still slow compared to most desktop CPUs
[05:22] <ramadana> mechdave : oh no .....  just < tab > I must Hit it ..... ok
[05:23] <balleyne> launcher doesn't appear on screen when I mouse to left side or press Super, but when I press Super+1 or Super+2 or Super+3, etc., it still opens the applications... it's like it's working, but not rendering on the screen...
[05:23] <ramadana> hai guys
[05:23] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Clock speed isn't all.
[05:23] <ramadana> ohhhhhhhhhh ......... nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[05:23] <Mechdave> ramadana, Just make sure that the Ok on the screen is highlighted
[05:23] <ramadana> why cery slow friend .........
[05:23] <ramadana> very
[05:24] <ramadana> why very slow friends
[05:24] <Mechdave> ramadana, What are the computer specs?
[05:24] <iToast> A pentium 3 will beat any arm cpu
[05:24] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Arm cpu at 5 ghz.
[05:24] <ramadana> intel dual core, ram 2 gb, 250 gb
[05:24] <iToast> Pentium 3 at 700 mhz.
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> iToast: so you think it will be faster than an AMD Opteron 6174
[05:24] <ramadana> mecdave : intel dual core, ram 2 gb, 250 gb
[05:24] <joallard> Chipzzz: I hear you, and I've been there just a week ago, but I think the problem is with manual drivers rather than packaged ones
[05:24] <iToast> ActionParsnip: We can have 4 - 8 cpus in 1 machine
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> iToast: AMD Opteron 6174 has 12
[05:24] <iToast> we can do about 8 videos cards into 1 machine. each card can have 2 - 4 gpu's
[05:25] <Mechdave> ramadana, What about your video card?
[05:25] <Chipzzz> joallard: i've got my fingers crossed :)
[05:25] <ramadana>  NVIDIA GT 520M
[05:25] <ramadana> mechdave :  NVIDIA GT 520M
[05:25] <joallard> Chipzzz: and now, let's roll the dice ;) I'll reboot, I keep you updated
[05:26] <Chipzzz> good luck
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> iToast: thing is, one of the fastest video cards of November last year isn't going to be as quick as the CPUs in the system, same speed yes the arch and how the speed is used is different
[05:26] <iToast> ActionParsnip: You have to renember what the cpu also has to do.
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> iToast: and will affect stuff but the main CPUs make GPUs look puny
[05:26] <Mechdave> ramadana, should be ok
[05:27] <iToast> ActionParsnip: A machine with 4 cpus all 12 core
[05:27] <Mechdave> ramadana, So what is happening now?
[05:27] <iToast> 48 cores of power
[05:27] <iToast> Now a video card with 4 video cards 2 gpu's each both dual core.
[05:27] <iToast> 16.
[05:27] <iToast> 16 cores of power.
[05:27] <iToast> All for math.
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> iToast: all CPUs do mathS
[05:27] <iToast> Yes
[05:28] <iToast> A gpu is deticated to it.
[05:28] <iToast> Dedicated*
[05:28] <iToast> That cpu is busy with other stuff
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> iToast: they both do maths, they are fast adding machines
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> iToast: they can't even take away, to subtract they add a negative number
[05:28] <iToast> ActionParsnip: think of it like this
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> iToast: dude Ive been in tis biz a looong time
[05:28] <iToast> Your in a conversation
[05:29] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Think of this, your in a convo
[05:29] <iToast> I'm interupting wasting your time every few seconds.
[05:29] <iToast> That gpu is having a convo. it doesnt have to be interupted.
[05:29] <iToast> The main stuff on the cpu, stuff that needs power takes a gpu
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> iToast: i know all this stuff you know..
[05:30] <iToast> Yes.
[05:30] <iToast> A gpu would be better in the end though
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> for 3d stuff maybe, but in raw processing power the cpu is mightier
[05:30] <Jon--> What are we talking about here, GPUs for brute-forcing or hash generation?
[05:30] <Jon--> In that case, they murder CPUs for performance
[05:31] <iToast> Jon--: Raw power.
[05:31] <iToast> Nothing but math 24/7
[05:31] <Jon--> Define power
[05:31] <iToast> Jon--: Think of brute forcing, but instead of forcing, calculating.
[05:31] <iToast> 24/7 never interupted.
[05:31] <Chipzzz> isn't there a #bitcoin group somewhere?
[05:31] <Jon--> iToast, What point are you trying to make?
[05:31] <abloobloo> hey people
[05:32] <iToast> Jon--: Were talking about super computers
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> hi abloobloo :)
[05:32] <iToast> Whats better, a device for nothing but math for math
[05:32] <Mechdave> iToast, A multi cpu machine such as the cray?
[05:32] <iToast> Mechdave: Basicly
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> iToast: why not just make the OS use a few of the CPU cores for the maths, none stop
[05:32] <Jon--> GPU farms out power CPUs for mindless math crunching
[05:32] <iToast> Jon--: Exactly!
[05:33] <Jon--> But a super computer does more than mindlessly crunch out rainbow tables, bitcoins, etc.
[05:33] <Mechdave> iToast, So we are talking parallel processing using a multi threaded application across thousands of cpu's
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> iToast: then you could use 10Gb or so of system RAM for video cache
[05:33] <Jon--> So it's context dependant
[05:33] <Jon--> If GPU or CPU power is more important
[05:33] <iToast> ActionParsnip: what
[05:33] <iToast> Think of it like this
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> iToast: you could if you could code the software and drivers
[05:33] <iToast> You need to simulate a tumor.
[05:33] <iToast> Whats better, a cpu or a gpu.
[05:33] <Jon--> ActionParsnip, Crunching password hashes or bitcoins is on the magnitude of 100x faster for the same $ value, GPU over CPU
[05:34] <iToast> There is alot of math telling how to spead the cells and division.
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> iToast: 12 core chip  doing nothing but graphics and using say 24Gb of system ram ni a 256Gb RAM system for video
[05:34] <iToast> ActionParsnip: There is a easy'er way.
[05:34] <iToast> Lets make the os run on the video card.
[05:34] <Jon--> iToast, You aren't reading what I am saying, are you?
[05:34] <iToast> I am
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> iToast: wouldn't it be better though, I'm sure there is no GPU currently available that can do that
[05:34] <Jon--> Do you even know how an Operating System works?
[05:35] <iToast> ActionParsnip: Currently yes
[05:35] <iToast> ActionParsnip: were getting closer and closer with every revision to it
[05:35] <iToast> Why not experiment?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> iToast: 24Gb video RAM? and 12 GPU cores?
[05:35] <iToast> ActionParsnip: were getting closer.
[05:35] <Jon--> There is a lot of talk about moving the CPU and GPU into one centralized unit, but, and I can't explain this without taking about an hour to explain the CPU to you, it will never REPLACE a CPU
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> iToast: yes but its codable now and can exist now
[05:35] <iToast> Jon--: And there would never be a computer that can simulate a brain
[05:36] <iToast> IBM simulated a cat brain.
[05:36] <Jon--> Because there's a hell of a lot more going on under the hood than pure math crunching, process switching, set-associative caching (which video cards are terrible at), etc
[05:36] <Jon--> iToast, Are you trolling?
[05:36] <iToast> No
[05:36] <iToast> Jon--: Change how it does it.
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> iToast: maybe but with all that power, being terrible will be very minor
[05:36] <iToast> If the video card can't do certain things. why rely on the video card to change?
[05:36] <Jon--> This is like saying a Ferari will out preform a Ferari + big truck combination, because it is faster.
[05:36] <joallard> Chipzzz: I survived.
[05:36] <Jon--> You're missing the big picture, the Ferrari doesn't have the ability to tow
[05:37] <iToast> Jon--: Lets not change the gpu.
[05:37] <iToast> Lets change the os.
[05:37] <Chipzzz> joallard: Whew! :))
[05:37] <Jon--> iToast, Go educate yourself please, you are incorrect.
[05:37] <Chipzzz> joallard: is the video fast now?
[05:37] <joallard> Chipzzz: nvidia-xconfig changed some stuff there wasn'T in xorg.conf; and yes the problem appears to have gone, though we never know
[05:38] <Chipzzz> joallard: OUTSTANDING!!!
[05:38] <Mechdave> iToast, Why should a GPU replace the CPU?
[05:38] <Jon--> You are correct in claiming bitcoins and password crunching is faster with a GPU farm, yes, yes it is, but GPUs as they are designed today do not have what is required for running an OS. CPUs are much more complicated than pure arithmitic crunching, and the hardware components on a chip are not in place on a gpu
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> joallard: if you want to make changes to the file using GUI you will need to run:  gksudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> joallard: you can then click the 'save to xorg config file'
[05:39] <Mechdave> Looking at a block diagram for a GPU, there is no way a gpu would ever function anything like a cpu
[05:40] <joallard> ActionParsnip, actually, I took the cli and xorg.conf was definitely written to
[05:40] <iToast> Sorry I am back.
[05:40] <iToast> Mechdave: The cpu is bogged down by everything.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> joallard: its old school but some displays still need xorg.conf no matter how many people say it's not used now
[05:40] <iToast> In most machines a gpu is going towaste.
[05:40] <Jon--> iToast, Do you have a formal education in hardware design, or even in computer science?
[05:40] <Jon--> I'm not attacking you, just please, understand your ignorance on this one. You are not correct.
[05:40] <iToast> Jon--: I'm learning still.
[05:40] <SJr> I have Ubuntu 11.10 running on an Acer Aspire 5250, and it keeps locking up, the syslog just seems to have stopped being written in the middle of a line
[05:40] <iToast> Jon--: Don't think like that.
[05:41] <iToast> Jon--: Don't think its impossible because it hasen't been done
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> SJr: have you tested your RAM using memtest from Grub2
[05:41] <grndslm>  the gpu is wasted, yes.... and....???
[05:41] <Jon--> Think of the Ferrari and truck example, it's really the clearest I can be without explaining the hardware, which would take too long and I don't care enough to do it.
[05:41] <Jon--> Ferrari is GPU, faster, much much faster, but it can't do everything a truck can do.
[05:41] <Jon--> If you need to pull a 500 pound load once, you're going to be screwed.
[05:41] <Mechdave> iToast, So run a distributed system with one cpu responsible for graphics and gpu and the other cpu for everything else
[05:42] <SJr> No I haven't ActionParsnip, I'll run that right now, it's brand new, I don't think it is that though.
[05:42] <iToast> Mechdave: No.
[05:42] <iToast> The cpu deals with things that don't need serios math power.
[05:42] <iToast> Ok lets use this.
[05:42] <iToast> if task needs math
[05:42] <iToast> Goto gpu
[05:42] <iToast> else
[05:42] <iToast> cpu
[05:42] <FloodBot1> iToast: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:42] <Jon--> iToast, I think you're trolling bro.
[05:42] <Mechdave> iToast, use a math co processor
[05:43] <iToast> Jon--: ...
[05:43] <iToast> What do I get from trolling?
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: ha I have a few systems with a turbo button on :)
[05:43] <iToast> Really?
[05:43] <Mechdave> Back to the days of 80286
[05:43] <j_dulaney> Ahoy, maties!
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> SJr: its good to rule out
[05:43] <iToast> Trolling here would be easier to say macs are better then linux, (they are not.)
[05:43] <SVNDR> when using 'unetbootin' what prefrences should i put into 'space used to preserve files across reboots' ? im using a 16GB USB
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> SJr: just run it a few minutes, red is bad
[05:43] <Mechdave> iToast, I think you are trolling here my friend
[05:43] <iToast> ...
[05:43] <Jon--> You're either trolling or completely ignorant to the opinions of someone with a masters in a related field to this discussion
[05:43] <iToast> Jon--: You also have to look at the fact linux was made for a computer.
[05:43] <Jon--> Take your pick
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> iToast: yeah, its a file server running samba and backup.
[05:44] <Mechdave> ActionParsnip, they were good in those days... The turbo button made DOS run soooo much faster :)
[05:44] <j_dulaney> iToast:  How does that make sense?
[05:44] <iToast> Jon--: Think of this, linux was made for computers, but runs on the ps3 xbox psp nds avrs!
[05:44] <iToast> Ad more.
[05:44] <Jon--> Did you read what I just said?
[05:44] <iToast> Jon--: 2.
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: lots, had to turn it off to play shootgal.exe ;)
[05:44] <Jon--> This is like you telling a doctor you know how to do his job.
[05:44] <Mechdave> ActionParsnip, lol :)
[05:44] <Jon--> Go learn more about CPU design and GPU design, and you will see what I am trying to tell you.
[05:44] <iToast> Jon--: The thing I don't like about people like you, no offense, is you consider it impossible before trying.
[05:44] <grndslm> Jon--, to be honest, you could prove him wrong in other ways than your credentials
[05:45] <j_dulaney> Mechdave:  My 286 box has no turbo button :(
[05:45] <Jon--> I didn't consider it impossible
[05:45] <iToast> Your saying it.
[05:45] <Jon--> In fact, I mentioned that they were embedding them
[05:45] <airtonix> Jon--: i have faith in you
[05:45] <Mechdave> iToast, The GPU has never been designed to run an OS
[05:45] <iToast> ...
[05:45] <iToast> Mechdave: So?
[05:45] <Jon--> Dude
[05:45] <iToast> The avr was never designed to run linux, uClinux works on it.
[05:45] <Jon--> This is like saying we can use RAM for HD storage
[05:45] <SycPuppy> New to ubuntu 11.10, using a K-8 with a onboard nvidia 6150. Need to cut back on the eye-candy and can't find anything under system and can't find the admin tab.
[05:45] <Mechdave> iToast, So you want to make your chevy fly?
[05:45] <iToast> Jon--: Thats exagaration
[05:46] <Jon--> Not RAM in the sense of SSDs, but RAM in the sense of a volatile medium to store permenant data.
[05:46] <Jon--> iToast, Not really.
[05:46] <iToast> Jon--: I know what you mean.
[05:46] <iToast> Jon--: yes.
[05:46] <Mechdave> SycPuppy, You can go back to unity2D
[05:46] <iToast> Your saying something impossible, i'm saying something possible now or in the early future.
[05:46] <j_dulaney> So, how are things kicking in Ubuntu-Land?
[05:46] <iToast> j_dulaney: Amazing.
[05:47]  * j_dulaney says that it is not possible to run Linux on the Whirlwind 1
[05:47] <Chipzzz> it's a virtual hotbed of innovation
[05:47] <iToast> j_dulaney: Always amazing, ubuntu servers are running smooth, ubuntu is fixing old computers up.
[05:47] <balleyne> How can I restart the thing that powers the Unity Launcher? My launcher is borked...
[05:47] <iToast> j_dulaney: it could be.
[05:47] <iToast> Not really a great idea. or feasable.
[05:47] <Jon--> iToast, What's an L1/L2 cache? How is process scheduling done? What is a context switch? How do the steps to fetch, decode, execute, and writeback?
[05:47] <j_dulaney> iToast:  No, it can't
[05:48] <iToast> j_dulaney: A avr runs linux, why can't it.
[05:48] <Jon--> iToast, How does the CPU clock work?
[05:48] <SycPuppy> so I got to log out to change it to the older version?
[05:48] <j_dulaney> iToast:  It doesn't exist any more, and only had about 60 words of memory
[05:48] <Jon--> Go research these, and you will realize that essential behaviours of an OS are not supported in a GPU
[05:48] <iToast> j_dulaney: O_o ok I take back what I said
[05:48] <Mechdave> Jon--, Crikey, that is testing my memory now ;-)
[05:48] <iToast> I didn't think it was that limited. even for its age.
[05:48] <Jon--> What it comes down to is, you can't really have processes.
[05:48] <Jon--> You can do one thing super, super fast
[05:48] <j_dulaney> iToast:  Early '50s vacuum tube computer
[05:48] <Jon--> But that's not what an OS does, for the most part
[05:48] <|multipass|> Does anyone know a solution to amdcccle crashing when trying to apply settings to dual monitors? I'm running in terminal, and no error is reported. Would installing a older driver help? (back when i used ubuntu 5 months ago, it was fine)
[05:48] <iToast> j_dulaney: How old are you?!
[05:48] <Jon--> It's more about managing multiple processes
[05:48] <Jon--> And GPUs blow at that, as they're currently designed
[05:49] <j_dulaney> iToast:  Does it matter?
[05:49] <iToast> Jon--: How do single core processors work.
[05:49] <Jon--> Read all of my above replies please iToast ^
[05:49] <iToast> Non hyper threaded.
[05:49] <Jon--> iToast, How many hours do you have?
[05:49] <balleyne> iToast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajW2fDy41fY
[05:49] <Jon--> Single core != single process
[05:49] <iToast> Jon--: How many can you spare?
[05:49] <Jon--> iToast, I can spare no less or more than I already have, I'm done. :P
[05:49] <SJr> Here is a picture of what it looks like when it locks up on the console: http://www.sjrx.net/screen.png
[05:49] <Mechdave> Wouldn't it be better to increase the bus size to 128 bits and add more cores?
[05:49] <j_dulaney> Jon-  It is *possible* (not feasible) to get a GPU to do multithreading
[05:49] <iToast> Jon--: ...
[05:50] <SVNDR> when using 'unetbootin' what prefrences should i put into 'space used to preserve files across reboots' ? im using a 16GB USB
[05:50] <Jon--> j_dulaney, And affordable? :P
[05:50] <iToast> How about I just take back what I said.
[05:50] <j_dulaney> Jon-:  No
[05:50] <Jon--> Exactly.
[05:50] <j_dulaney> I didn't say it was, I just said possible
[05:50] <Jon--> You could design a $20,000 computer to do the job that a $5000 computer with a killer GPU and an average chip could do just as well
[05:50] <Jon--> There's no benefit
[05:51] <j_dulaney> I'm not arguing that
[05:51] <Jon--> Probably less than 5k
[05:51]  * j_dulaney is just playing devil's advocate here
[05:51] <Jon--> Didn't think you were, was hoping toast would pick up on reading the convo
[05:51]  * j_dulaney got it with just jumping in
[05:52]  * Jon-- hugs j_dulaney and tells him/her everything is going to be okay
[05:52] <j_dulaney> Jon--:  I'm a him
[05:52] <iToast> "Do not install linux on a toilet"
[05:52] <iToast> Lol
[05:52] <Chipzzz> SJr: it does look a lot like bad memory...
[05:52]  * j_dulaney has a microwave that appears to use Linux
[05:53] <jsp> well it solves a problem when it takes S*it
[05:53] <iToast> Oh yea, I'm wondering. What's ubuntu's plan for ubuntu on arm?
[05:53] <Jon--> They put NetBSD on a toaster
[05:53] <j_dulaney> Jon--:  Would you still hug me if I were to drop the statement that I'm actually with Fedora and just screw around with Ubuntu about once a year or so?
[05:54] <Mechdave> iToast, why would you want to run Ubuntu on your arm?
[05:54] <j_dulaney> iToast:  Fedora's got great ARM support
[05:54] <iToast> Mechdave: ARM Proccessor
[05:54] <Agamemnus> Why would you want to run NetBSD on a toaster?
[05:54] <iToast> j_dulaney: I perfer ubuntu
[05:54] <j_dulaney> Cylons!
[05:54] <Agamemnus> Damn toasters.
[05:54]  * Mechdave has a shoe which runs BSD... Runs really fast
[05:54] <grndslm> THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID TO GALILEO!!!
[05:54] <iToast> Mechdave: Same here!
[05:55] <jsp> I thought it has been running on the arm processor
[05:55] <Jon--> j_dulaney, Yep, I'm no fanboy. Unity is a piece of shit and I question 90% of the decisions Canonical makes.
[05:55] <j_dulaney> iToast:  Fedora tends to be more cutting-edge, Ubuntu is shinier
[05:55] <iToast> j_dulaney: ...
[05:55] <Jon--> Though it is quite user friendly and easy to setup, which for me on a desktop environment, is what I look for
[05:55] <balleyne> "Uh, guys, I think I clogged the file server..."
[05:55] <iToast> Ubuntu is better in my oppinion
[05:55] <pangolin> !language | Jon--
[05:55] <Mechdave> Jon--, Unity is growing on me, especially now I am running tint2 as well
[05:55] <j_dulaney> Jon--:  Gnome 3.2 is better; I've become used to it.  Still prefer Fluxbox, though
[05:56] <iToast> balleyne: *dialup noise*
[05:56] <Jon--> Wasn't gnome3 really buggy?
[05:56] <Jon--> I was considering openbox or xfce
[05:56] <wolfric> iToast: really? can you give any examples where htep ackaged version of a program is a higher version in fedora than it is in ubuntu
[05:56] <iToast> wolfric: What?
[05:56] <jsp> Atrix has reduced version of ubuntu
[05:56] <jsp> lets see
[05:56] <iToast> wolfric: Its a oppinion.
[05:56] <iToast> Do I have to prove it? no.
[05:56] <j_dulaney> Gnome 3 has issues with custimizability; that's largely fixed
[05:56] <jsp> I saw an article on some blog http://blog.canonical.com/2011/10/18/ubuntu-11-10-on-arm/
[05:56] <iToast> I perfer a os that just works.
[05:57] <Jon--> wolf23, Almost all of them wolfie... Ubuntu prioritizes stability, Fedora prioritizes newness.
[05:57] <Jon--> It's not a strength or a criticism in either direction, just a different philosophy
[05:57] <wolfric> iToast: sorry meant to say that to j_dulaney
[05:57] <Mechdave> iToast, Get a Mac then...
[05:57] <iToast> Mechdave: No
[05:57] <iToast> Mac is far from simple.
[05:57] <iToast> Mac's seem to do everything, backwards.
[05:57] <Mechdave> iToast, but mega stable and user friendly and also is a BSD
[05:58] <Jon--> iToast, Can't decide if trolling.. or just really dumb.
[05:58] <iToast> Jon--:  -_-"
[05:58] <iToast> Jon--: Rude much.
[05:58]  * Jon-- half expects a ban for his comment. I'm sorry, it just came out! 
[05:58] <j_dulaney> wolf23:  Fedora Rawhide (what will be F17) is being rebuilt against the new GCC
[05:58] <jsp> Only issue with good old ubuntu is dealing with NvidaAmdAti drivers
[05:58] <iToast> Mechdave: Mega stable? when
[05:58] <iToast> Macs are constantly crashing.
[05:58] <iToast> My pc crashed 1 time due to me installing a outdated driver.
[05:58] <Jon--> Mega stable = BSD, especially OpenBSD
[05:58] <Mechdave> Jon--, Just use a Mac and you will see
[05:58] <j_dulaney> BSD = Ancient
[05:59] <iToast> j_dulaney: how old?
[05:59] <balleyne> so, can anyone help me troubleshoot the Unity launcher? It's hiding from me, won't reappear unless I restart my computer...
[05:59] <Jon--> j_dulaney, That's an ignorant opinion man. FreeBSD can handle ridiculous network throughput. Yahoo uses them for their servers for Christ's sake :P
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> balleyne: what hide setting have you set in ccsm?
[05:59] <j_dulaney> For that matter, some of the stuff that is in the unstable of Debian is ancient to me
[05:59] <pangolin> Can we please get back to Ubuntu support. #ubuntu-offtopic is currently discussing Mac vs Ubuntu.
[05:59] <Mechdave> balleyne, just open aterminal and type unity
[06:00] <j_dulaney> Jon--:  I didn't state that it doesn't work, it's just old
[06:00] <SycPuppy> ok how do I switch to the unity 2d thing?
[06:00] <jsp> BSD is great for a mail server, but my god compile your brain out for a full desktop. Device support for desktop stuff is lacking
[06:00] <iToast> Anyways, Can i get a answer
[06:00]  * j_dulaney is sure there is code dating back to the 70's in the BSDs
[06:00] <Jon--> It is not old, it is just a CLI DIY minimalistic OS
[06:00] <iToast> Whats happening with ubuntu on arm?
[06:00] <hipeople> hey
[06:00] <Jon--> It's like the Gentoo of the Linux world
[06:00] <hipeople> whaats +r?
[06:00] <Jon--> At least that's the closest example
[06:00] <balleyne> ActionParsnip: actually, sorry, it just looks like all the icons are invisible...  just noticed that now, because when I hover my mouse over I get the tooltips...
[06:00] <Jon--> hipeople, For what command?
[06:01] <j_dulaney> Jon--:  It's not the CLI I'm speaking of
[06:01] <hipeople> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[06:01] <hipeople> -
[06:01] <balleyne> Mechdave: I've tried Alt+F2 and unity --replace, same issue... actually blank icons, not hiding launcher -- sorry
[06:01]  * j_dulaney uses CLI all the time, and prefers it for many things
[06:01] <Jon--> hipeople, It's asking you to register. /msg NickServ help register
[06:01] <Jon--> Allows you to register a nick on Freenode
[06:01] <j_dulaney> The main reasons I don't like Ubuntu are typing out apt-get instead of yum and I can't do su -
[06:02] <kali1> hello
[06:02] <kali1> everyone
[06:02] <Jon--> Go install yum and alias su, problem solved.
[06:02] <kali1> help me solve my bluetooth issue in ubuntu 11.10
[06:02] <iToast> Well...
[06:02] <maum> how can I update grup? there are duplicated item in grub list
[06:02] <iToast> What's happening with ubuntu on the ARM arch?
[06:02] <pangolin> !ot
[06:02] <iToast> Is it coming? is it not?
[06:02] <Chipzzz> j_dulaney: why not make "yum" an alias for "apt-get"?
[06:02] <iToast> pangolin: Thats on topic...
[06:03] <kali1> i am able to receive files but not able to send or DUN connection with my phone
[06:03] <iToast> Apperently a full ubuntu desktop will be on arm, but when? how? who will sell the tablet?
[06:03] <Jon--> !grub | maum
[06:03] <kali1> connection refused error appears in ubuntu
[06:03] <j_dulaney> Chipzzz:  Thought of that, but I really don't poke around with Ubuntu enough to worry about it
[06:03] <Chipzzz> lol
[06:03]  * j_dulaney uses Fedora primarily.
[06:03] <j_dulaney> I like bleeding edge
[06:03] <Jon--> !ot
[06:04] <Chipzzz> ... and sudo so = sudo -
[06:04] <maum> Jon--: I don't know what version of grub
[06:04] <dopamine5ht>  /msg NickServ help register
[06:04] <Jon--> maum, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:04] <Chipzzz> (sorry sudo su = sudo -)
[06:04] <j_dulaney> Well, peace y'all
[06:04] <maum> Jon--: ubuntu 11.10
[06:04] <Mechdave> balleyne, are there any messages in dmesg?
[06:05] <Jon--> maum, You have grub2. Read that HTTP FAQ for more information and come back with any specific questions you have. You'll use grub-install to re-make your grub config file.
[06:05] <Jon--> I'm going to go read my Kindle and try to get some sleep
[06:05] <Chipzzz> peace
[06:05] <JairunCaloth> Running ubuntu 11.10, how on earth do I restart X from the cli?
[06:05] <balleyne> Mechdave: not sure what to grep for?
[06:06] <SycPuppy> either xwin or startx
[06:06] <Jon--> JairunCaloth, Try sudo service gdm restart from a tty. It may spawn another x session without killing your old one though.
[06:06] <Mechdave> balleyne, fair enough
[06:06] <JairunCaloth> gdm doesn't appear to be installed
[06:06] <pangolin> JairunCaloth: sudo service ldm restart
[06:06] <JairunCaloth> nor xdm
[06:06] <JairunCaloth> ldm ah
[06:06] <JairunCaloth> thanks
[06:06] <pangolin> sure
[06:06] <SVNDR> when using 'unetbootin' what prefrences should i put into 'space used to preserve files across reboots' ? im using a 16GB USB
[06:06] <Jon--> ^^
[06:06] <Jon--> thanks pangolin
[06:06] <iToast> Sorry this is offtopic
[06:06] <iToast> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=Bv2RczliioU
[06:07] <iToast> That machine belongs to nasa. probably runs linux
[06:07] <JairunCaloth> nope, not ldm 0.o
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: if you need the storage, use it. If its just for installing then its not really needed
[06:07] <Jon--> JairunCaloth, Try startx
[06:08] <Mechdave> balleyne, I am not a unity expert... not sure where to find the logs for unity
[06:08] <dr_willis> SVNDR:  if you also use that flash for windows. use less then 16gb :)
[06:08] <balleyne> Mechdave: ok, thanks... just going to restart
[06:08] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: so i can leave it at 0?
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: sure
[06:08] <JairunCaloth> Jon--: X is already running
[06:09] <Jon--> Press ctrl alt f7 or f8
[06:09] <dr_willis> SVNDR:  a few gb may be handy if yu need the thing as a rescye dusk
[06:09] <Jon--> Try both
[06:09] <JairunCaloth> Jon--: no luck
[06:10] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: what would u do? this is the 3rd tme ive tried booting (twice with, Universal USB) this is the 3rd time with unetbootin.. i cant figure out the problem
[06:10] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: well i can think what the problem may be
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: make sure you MD5 test the ISO you use
[06:10] <Jon--> JairunCaloth, service --status-all | grep dm
[06:11] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: MD5 test? lol
[06:11] <dr_willis> !md5
[06:12] <SVNDR> dr_willis: thanks
[06:12] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: its official Ubuntu ISO.. still check it?
[06:12] <bk1> yes, check it
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: doesn't matter, it can still be damaged in transit
[06:12] <dr_willis> check all downloads
[06:12] <dr_willis> twice   ;)
[06:13] <Jon--> He's making a list...
[06:13] <Mechdave> SVNDR, It can go wrong during download... it pays to check MD5's
[06:13] <maum> I am not sure which disk is installed grub.. how can I check it?
[06:13] <dr_willis> check iso. verify burn..
[06:14] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: the weird thing is, as im restarting to boot ubuntu for the first time, my USB mounts and unmounts, over and over again, i get an onscreen outpout saying something like 'removing high speed USB.....' then error msg's
[06:15] <JairunCaloth> 0.o
[06:15] <JairunCaloth> o.0
[06:15] <JairunCaloth> so for those playing along at home it was lightdm
[06:15] <Chipzzz> lol
[06:15] <Jon--> I'm heading to bed, someone please help maum with removing entries from his grub.cfg
[06:15] <Jon--> JairunCaloth, Haha. Shit. :P
[06:15] <dr_willis> thats standard in 11.10 JairunCaloth
[06:16] <JairunCaloth> but I can't seem to properly redirect or pipe the output of the service command
[06:16] <Jon--> dr_willis, Someone told him to use ldm, not his fault
[06:16] <pangolin> Jon--: Please keep the language clean.
[06:16] <SycPuppy> Is unity added over gnome or is it independant of it?
[06:16] <pangolin> SycPuppy: it is a shell  on top of gnome3
[06:16] <Jon--> JairunCaloth, That's a Ubuntuism with their service, must be stderr or something weird
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: tried a different USB port
[06:16] <JairunCaloth> odly, when I redirect to a file, I get the last 5 lines or so
[06:16] <Jon--> What the?
[06:17] <Jon--> Well it calls all the init scripts with status command
[06:17] <Mechdave> JairunCaloth, What redirect operator are you using
[06:17] <iToast> Oh ughm
[06:17] <Jon--> So it's not really like running one binary, might be screwing it up
[06:17] <JairunCaloth> > or >>
[06:17] <Jon--> You're using >> ?
[06:17] <SycPuppy> got a feeling I'm gonna be screwing with this for many days.
[06:17] <iToast> I found out about xorg over ssh, is that possible without having a the gui run on the machine that hosts it?
[06:17] <JairunCaloth> same effect
[06:17] <iToast> So not have a full desktop
[06:17] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: i have 4, ive tried on 2 different ones so fair.. ill try the third this time.. fingers crosses. i dont know why my computer has so much trouble with Ubuntu though lol
[06:17] <JairunCaloth> yes, xserver can run but you don't have to have a display attached
[06:17] <Jon--> Man page: service --status-all runs all init scripts, in alphabetical order, with the status command.
[06:18] <Mechdave> JairunCaloth, When I use redirect in bash I use command &2> file_out.txt
[06:18] <Jon--> Mechdave, I don't think his issue is stderr
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> SVNDR: could try the minimal ISO if al else fails
[06:19] <Mechdave> Jon--, It seems wierd that the > or >> gives last 5 lines
[06:19] <SVNDR> ActionParsnip: thats my next step then
[06:20] <Mechdave> JairunCaloth, I have the tldp redirect page here --> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[06:20] <Mechdave> JairunCaloth, if it is any help
[06:20] <Jon--> JairunCaloth, service --status-all &> out
[06:21] <iToast> Can I cluster ubuntu to windows?
[06:21] <Jon--> It seems to mix stdout and stderr with the replies from status, probably based on service being down or up (wtf?)
[06:21] <JairunCaloth> Jon--: that works
[06:21] <iToast> Use window as my main machine and the ubuntu machines take some load
[06:21] <Jon--> NOW, sleep time. That command will pipe it all. ^_^
[06:21] <Shellcode84> I have a 1080p hdtv,i'm useing evga graphic card
[06:21] <Jon--> JairunCaloth, That pipes all output channels to the file. > and >> use only stdout. &2> is your stderr
[06:21] <Shellcode84> my graphic card could push 2048x1536
[06:21] <Shellcode84> would that damage my tv?
[06:21] <JairunCaloth> yeah
[06:22] <Shellcode84> ?
[06:22] <SVNDR> alright.. here goes trail number 3..
[06:22] <JairunCaloth> I'm aware of the ability to switch what outputs you're redirecting. Just not something I have to use frequently.
[06:23] <chuy_max> hello, I would like to forward X11 through ssh. ssh is configured correctly and listening on port 22. I see port 6010 listening on localhost. Anyone knows how to make it listen in all ips and not restricted to localhost?
[06:23] <Mechdave> JairunCaloth, Jon--, And the 2 is to append
[06:23] <Ben64> chuy_max: all you need to do is "ssh -X <ip>" to start it
[06:24] <chuy_max> Ben64, really?, hum, I thought that port 6010 should listen in all network.
[06:24] <Mechdave> chuy_max, Have a look here --> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ssh.html
[06:24] <chuy_max> Ben64, I've installed X11 servers before and forward X11 to a Windows PC using putty
[06:24] <Ben64> chuy_max: nope, it's over ssh, so it uses port 22
[06:25] <chuy_max> Ben64, for some reason, I installed 11.10 and now X11 is not forwarded. I can start a ssh session but not forward X11
[06:25] <dr_willis> putty and xming are handy for that
[06:25] <Ben64> it could be disabled in the sshd config
[06:26] <Ben64> there should be a setting in /etc/ssh/sshd_config called X11Forwarding
[06:26] <chuy_max> Ben64: X11Forwarding yes
[06:26] <SycPuppy> synaptic isn't installed in 11.10?
[06:26] <Ben64> SycPuppy: it should be
[06:26] <dr_willis> not by default SycPuppy
[06:26] <Ben64> ooh, guess not
[06:27] <Chipzzz> SycPuppy: they call it software center in 11.10
[06:27] <JairunCaloth> SycPuppy: synaptic has been replaced by ubuntu software center
[06:27] <Ben64> maybe since i upgraded it kept it on my system
[06:27] <chuy_max> Ben64, Putty client says when running xclock: Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[06:27] <JairunCaloth> you can install synaptic if you like
[06:27] <Chipzzz> SycPuppy: or you can apt-get it
[06:27] <Ben64> chuy_max: you need to have an x server on the local computer
[06:27] <dr_willis> chuy_max:  you need a x server on windows also
[06:27] <SycPuppy> guess I apt-get it after openbox.
[06:28] <chuy_max> Ben64, hum, well, gdm is installed, ubuntu has the desktop version, so Im guessing X is installed.
[06:28] <dr_willis> chuy_max:  such as  xming
[06:28] <Ben64> chuy_max: you said putty though... so it must be windows
[06:28] <chuy_max> dr_willis, why would I want an X server in windows.
[06:28] <Ben64> so you can forward x...
[06:28] <dr_willis> chuy_max:  on windows.. if you want to see the x apps.. yiu nwed a x server
[06:28] <Mechdave> chuy_max, what Ben64 said :)
[06:28] <chuy_max> :O
[06:29] <dr_willis> need it.. because uts needed....
[06:29] <chuy_max> dr_willis, I thought putty was enough to see x apps.
[06:29] <dr_willis> or just use vnc
[06:29] <chuy_max> maybe I'm missing something.
[06:29] <Mechdave> chuy_max, Have a look here --> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ssh.html
[06:29] <dr_willis> chuy_max:  no...
[06:29] <Ben64> putty is just the ssh client
[06:29] <chuy_max> :O
[06:30] <dr_willis> xming uses putty
[06:30] <chuy_max> I see. Let me read the whole article.
[06:30] <Ben64> too bad x forwarding is terribly slow
[06:31] <dr_willis> but secure.
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: add the option:  -C
[06:31] <Mechdave> chuy_max, tldp.org is a fantastic documentation recourse for linux :)
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> or is is  -c
[06:31] <JairunCaloth> ssh tunnel with vnc might be faster yes?
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> yep,  -C
[06:31] <JairunCaloth> and just as secure
[06:32] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: would that make a noticeable difference though?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> JairunCaloth: I'd use web UIs and bash scripts, you can do most things using sleeker methods
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: some, usually there are better ways to do stuff then X forwarding and VNC
[06:33] <JairunCaloth> ActionParsnip: well yeah, but I guess if you *have* to have X for some reason...
[06:33] <Mechdave> ActionParsnip, What ways would you recommend?
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: depends what you want to achieve..
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> JairunCaloth: i guess
[06:36] <JairunCaloth> TBH the most usable way I've found to use X remotly is NX
[06:36] <SycPuppy> good old gnome... kinda.... good old looking new gnome.....
[06:37] <JairunCaloth> I gave up on it and installed xubuntu-desktop
[06:37] <JairunCaloth> I tried, I really did
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> JairunCaloth: i'd have just installed xfc4 and use gnome apps in xfce, uses less drive space
[06:37] <Mechdave> What about Remote desktop?
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: what are you doing on the remote desktop?
[06:38] <dopamine5ht> Xubuntu great for old machines, and nvidia cards that are acting funny under Mint/Ubuntu+Unity
[06:39] <rf5> hi there. im trying connected to ssh and i updated the ssl but now i tried to access it thro ssh localhost and i got this: OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 9070af, you have 90801f
[06:39] <rf5> how can i fix it ? i tried apt ssh and openssl but they are all updated
[06:39] <SycPuppy> I like openbox but I've been using puppy linux for 3 years.
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> SycPuppy: same but i use it with lxde :)
[06:40] <Mechdave> I used to use X over ssh for use behind my firewall to access my Ubuntu box from XP
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: yes but to achieve what?
[06:40] <Chipzzz> rf "sudo apt-get update"
[06:40] <Chipzzz> rf5: ^^^
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: what apps do you use? why do you connect?
[06:40] <Mechdave> ActionParsnip, To play with... That is all I do with Ubuntu... :)
[06:41] <JairunCaloth> ActionParsnip: I'm too lazy to care, which is why I switched back to ubuntu in the first place.
[06:41] <rf5> and then what Chipzzz?
[06:41] <Chipzzz> rf5: then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[06:41] <Mechdave> I use Ubuntu for accessing my banking as I reckon a keylogger and screen capture is a little harder with Linux
[06:41] <y-chrmsm-adam> kde is awsome
[06:41] <chuy_max> dr_willis, Ben64, Mechdave thanks guys, everything is working great now.
[06:41] <chuy_max> :)
[06:42] <Mechdave> chuy_max, No worries mate :)
[06:42] <JairunCaloth> chuy_max: if you wind perfomace lacking, look into NX and/or FreeNX
[06:42] <Chipzzz> NX rocks!
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: makes sense
[06:42] <rf5> its on the way Chipzzz ill keep in touch
[06:42] <rf5> thanks bro
[06:42] <chuy_max> JairunCaloth, sure. I'll check that. Thx
[06:42] <Chipzzz> :)
[06:43] <Mechdave> ActionParsnip, I found linux when I was programming C,C++ at uni
[06:43] <JairunCaloth> s/wind/find/
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: torrent clients have web UIs so you can remote manage those easily :)
[06:43] <overdub> y-chrmsm-adam: running kde here on Ubuntu 11.10, well into the love affair
[06:43] <Mechdave> ActionParsnip, many have web interfaces now... even my pvr has one :)
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: same, was Suse and redhat but I ran mandrake at home
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: nice :)
[06:44] <y-chrmsm-adam> overdub: with kde here is not a love affair, but hard core sex!!
[06:44] <Mechdave> ActionParsnip, I used RedHat 5.02 when I first used linux... I had a SiS video chipset so X was out
[06:45] <DrkCodeman> my ubuntu disk for 10.04.3 x64 will not see my ntfs partitions correctly on my 2TB Sata Drive to install on my 500 MB partition
[06:45] <DrkCodeman> err 500GB partition
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: Mandrake 7 :)
[06:45] <overdub> redhat 6.1 was my first install in 1999, came in the back of a book
[06:45] <Mechdave> ActionParsnip, We are old skool (I think) lol :)
[06:45] <y-chrmsm-adam> I don't see youtube-dl in universe
[06:46] <y-chrmsm-adam> I see it now
[06:46] <SycPuppy> every time I've tried debian, suse or other large mainstream linux distro's I can never seem to get them working good on my computer. Only ever had luck sabayon and lunar linux.
[06:46] <dopamine5ht> MechDave: Practice good security keep updated, and good passwords. It is possible to do, but not as easily as the single click of being owned under windows, despite my best efforts to covince windows users to stop running as admin.
[06:46] <dopamine5ht> Those who have listened and keeped admin/user accounts have gone longer without issue...
[06:46] <Mechdave> Backwhen internet was prefixed with beeps and static
[06:46] <overdub> y-chrmsm-adam: apt-cache search youtube doesn't find it?
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> Mechdave: there is older, but i like old schol
[06:46] <y-chrmsm-adam> overdub: it did, what didn't was KDE's muon
[06:47] <Mechdave> dopamine5ht, Windows is basically crippled with a non privileged account
[06:47] <DrkCodeman> anyone???
[06:47] <rf5> Chipzzz: hey bro that command upgrades the dist?
[06:48] <Mechdave> DrkCodeman, what does it see?
[06:48] <rf5> or just the dependences?
[06:48] <Chipzzz> rf5: no, just the packages in the current dist
[06:48] <rf5> ah okay
[06:48] <dopamine5ht> Mechdave: pretty much lol. For just the facebookers it is alright, keeps them from shooting themselves in the foot.
[06:48] <DrkCodeman> Mechdave the whole disk it doesn't see the partitions on it
[06:48] <chuy_max> JairunCaloth, oops, gnuplot is being very slow using X11 forwarding. Maybe I investigate about NX
[06:49] <y-chrmsm-adam> is there something like eix in ubuntu?
[06:49] <Mechdave> DrkCodeman, you are using the standard install?
[06:49] <Chipzzz> overdub: the download helper extension for Firefox does youtube & lots more sites
[06:49] <y-chrmsm-adam> apt-cache seems crippled, does'nt have colors nor does it show which packages are installed
[06:49] <iceroot> can you recommend a mailclient (instead of evolution) which is able to get exchange-mails through OWA?
[06:50] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: you want a list of installed packages? or what is your question?
[06:50] <overdub> Chipzzz: someone else told me that recently too, thanks, i'll look into it
[06:50] <DrkCodeman> I have a 2TB hard drive with 2 partitions 1.5TB NTFS storage and 500GB that has Windows 7 that needs replaced with Ubuntu
[06:50] <y-chrmsm-adam> given a particular query include installed info in the results, just like eix
[06:50] <DrkCodeman> Mechdave: yes standard install
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> y-chrmsm-adam: it doesn't show installed packages, only the avaialable ones in the repo
[06:51] <share> when trying to unload the module ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[06:51] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: something like "dpkg -l | grep ^ii" ?
[06:51] <SycPuppy> going to switch over to openbox and see if it works in a few minutes, figure I'd ask and see what ubuntu uses for a shutdown script real quick since I am updating atm.
[06:51] <share> what else is using it
[06:51] <zykotick9> DrkCodeman: 2TB drives are an issue for MBR partitions, i believe they require GPT (or similar named) paritions.  10.04 might cause additional issues...
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> share: you will need to stop pulseaudio then unload it
[06:52] <y-chrmsm-adam> no, something like 'eix ffmpeg' and the results include all the info
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> y-chrmsm-adam: what are you wanting to achieve?
[06:52] <Mechdave> DrkCodeman, As far as I am aware 11.10 uses Gparted. Here is the manual --> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/display-doc.php?name=help-manual
[06:52] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: i dont know what eix is, so i cant help, sorry
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc > Guest6282
[06:53] <share> ActionParsnip: makes sense. tks
[06:53] <franzks> Ok so I have just finished installing Ubuntu on my Acer 4740. Don't I have any drivers to install?
[06:53] <Mechdave> DrkCodeman, There may be a limit to size of disk you can use it on
[06:53] <DrkCodeman> so i can't easily install ubuntu then
[06:53] <y-chrmsm-adam> find out which package is installed with a query just like eix
[06:53] <iceroot> franzks: normally not, comes all with the kernel
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> franzks: what hardware isn't working?
[06:53] <Chipzzz> y-chrmsm-adam: aptitude may do what you want
[06:53] <iceroot> !who | y-chrmsm-adam
[06:53] <rf5> Chipzzz: ok did it. still with the error message
[06:53] <ryanmr> Hi guys. I have a really quick question: does Ubuntu update manager download changes by entire files or through diffs?
[06:53] <Solnse> 2 days ago ubuntu did some updates, now every time I turn on my computer it loads with the screen orientation 180 degrees off (upside down) has this happened to anybody else? is there a config file or something I should look at to fix it?
[06:53] <y-chrmsm-adam> this is insane --> "dpkg -l | grep ^ii"
[06:53] <Ben64> DrkCodeman: i'm using a 2TB drive with no problem
[06:53] <franzks> ActionParsnip: Everything seems to work ok already
[06:54] <iceroot> ryanmr: complete files, no deltas
[06:54] <DrkCodeman> Ben64: but when you went to install the os was it over another??
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> y-chrmsm-adam: so you want the whole list of the currently installed packages, is that right?
[06:54] <y-chrmsm-adam> try gentoo and use eix and you'll know what I am talking about.
[06:54] <Ben64> DrkCodeman: no, was a fresh drive
[06:54] <DrkCodeman> Ben64 or did you have another partition on it
[06:54] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: i will never use gentoo of course
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> franzks: then why would you need drivers if everything is working?
[06:54] <rf5> OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 9070af, you have 90801f
[06:54] <rf5> thats the error message
[06:54] <Chipzzz> rf5: you're trying to ssh from the same machine or are you trying to ssh into a virtual machine or something?
[06:54] <DrkCodeman> yeah then it is fine it sees the entire disk but it doesnt see the partitions on it
[06:54] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: just post exactlyx what you want without a reference to other distros
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> y-chrmsm-adam: my gentoo days are waaay in the past
[06:54] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: just show us an example
[06:55] <Ben64> DrkCodeman: you probably need to format it then or something : /
[06:55] <SycPuppy> will it screw anything up if I remove ubuntuone?
[06:55] <y-chrmsm-adam> apt-cache search ffmpeg gives just this info --> ffmpeg - Multimedia player, server, encoder and transcoder
[06:55] <DrkCodeman> im not formatting 1.5 TB of data lol
[06:55] <rf5> im on it now Chipzzz but i tried to update the openssl manually and i think i screwed with it. im getting this error when i ssh localhost
[06:55] <franzks> ActionParsnip: I don't know, that's what I'm wondering. Because on windows, after install I had a ton of drivers I had to install.
[06:55] <rf5> so basically if i stop sshd ill lost acess cause im 300km away from the server lol
[06:55] <y-chrmsm-adam> doesn't provide any other info, whether it's installed or not.
[06:55] <iceroot> !who | y-chrmsm-adam
[06:55] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: dpkg -l | grep ^ii  is showing if it is installed
[06:56] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: everything in that list is installed
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> franzks: windows doesn't have the drivers for your hardware, ubuntu does :)
[06:56] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: without the grep ^ii you can use "dpkg -l ffmpeg"
[06:56] <y-chrmsm-adam> horrible
[06:56] <zykotick9> y-chrmsm-adam: "apt-cache policy foo" will show is it's installed or not
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> y-chrmsm-adam: that command only searches the repo knowledge for the string you give
[06:56] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: last time, put the nick in front
[06:56] <y-chrmsm-adam> someone port eix over to ubuntu ASAP!!!
[06:56] <Chipzzz> rf5: I wouldn't expect openssl to confuse the ssh client & server versions...
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> y-chrmsm-adam: if you want to see if it is installed or not, use:  apt-cache policy ffmpeg
[06:57] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: and waht is horrible about dpkg -l?
[06:57] <rf5> Chipzzz: i manually runed maybe an outdated version of it?
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> y-chrmsm-adam: will say what version(s) are available and then which is installed (if at all)
[06:57] <rf5> i dont know.. the thing is that it was working before and now its not
[06:57] <franzks> ActionParsnip: That's good to know. Thanks for clearing it up, cheers!
[06:57] <SycPuppy> franzks: If you told it to update and install 3rd party drivers when you installed it is very unlikely that you will need to add any drivers.
[06:57] <aBound> Hey does anybody know how I can enable syntax highlighting for C in Nano?
[06:58] <rf5> how do i re-install openssl?
[06:58] <franzks> SycPuppy: Yeah I ticked that box. So I guess I'm all good.
[06:58] <Chipzzz> rf5: try "sudo apt-get check"
[06:58] <y-chrmsm-adam> mm.. no pretty colors in apt-cache?
[06:58] <DrkCodeman> i don't think it is possible to convert MBR to GPT without data loss is there
[06:58] <iceroot> aBound: http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-to-enable-syntax-highlighting-in.html
[06:59] <Chipzzz> rf5: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install openssl" would reinstall it, but i doubt it will help
[06:59] <aBound> iceroot, I tried that but C syntax isn't enabling itself yet every other syntax seems to work.
[06:59] <iceroot> aBound: maybe try another editor which is designed for something like that
[06:59] <rf5> ya ur right
[06:59] <rf5> still the same
[07:00] <rf5> OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 9070af, you have 90801f
[07:00] <rf5> when i ssh localhost
[07:00] <aBound> iceroot, I would but trying to find me a quick edit editor. :P
[07:00] <Chipzzz> rf5: did apt-get check say anything?
[07:00] <rf5> i sent in ur private
[07:00] <rf5> Reading package lists... Done
[07:00] <iceroot> aBound: gedit (if you dont need the cli)
[07:00] <Ben64> rf5: what did you do to break it?
[07:00] <rf5> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:00] <aBound> Eh, not a big fan of gedit.
[07:00] <rf5> Ben64: manually install another version of openssl
[07:00] <iceroot> aBound: but the REAL editors (vim, emacs) are an overkill for quick editing if you dont know them
[07:01] <Ben64> rf5: manual meaning compile?
[07:01] <rf5> ya
[07:01] <iceroot> aBound: maybe have also a look at "kate"
[07:01] <Ben64> rf5: why? : /
[07:01] <rf5> cause it was bugging
[07:01] <Chipzzz> rf5: ah... it thinks versions are ok... try aptitude... it's pretty good at this kind of thing
[07:01] <rf5> the other one
[07:01] <aBound> iceroot, I know was going to use VIM for my primary editor but nano, ne or this other editor for quick edits.
[07:02] <aBound> Just seems at the time 11.10 is somewhat broken in the sense.
[07:02] <iceroot> aBound: have a look at the command "vimtutor" it will teach you quick editing in vim too
[07:02] <rf5>  wget http://www.openssl.org/source/openssl-0.9.8k.tar.gz && tar -zxf openssl-0.9.8k.tar.gz > /dev/null && cd openssl-0.9.8k && ./config --prefix=/usr > /dev/null &$
[07:02] <y-chrmsm-adam> how do you do the underline?
[07:02] <rf5> thats what i did ben64
[07:02] <Flannel> aBound: Are you opening a c file in nano?
[07:02] <aBound> iceroot, No problem.
[07:02] <y-chrmsm-adam> on irc?
[07:02] <Ben64> rf5: should never do stuff like that on ubuntu
[07:02] <aBound> Flannel, Trying to open a new file in nano such as: socket.c
[07:02] <rf5> im used to debian
[07:02] <rf5> so i though it would be fine
[07:02] <Chipzzz> lol
[07:02] <aBound> Figures it would enable the C syntax from there.
[07:03] <Ben64> rf5: i'd imagine it wouldn't be fine on debian either
[07:03] <aBound> Seeing as socket.sh enables shell syntax.
[07:03] <iceroot> rf5: even on debian never do something like that
[07:03] <Flannel> aBound: Try creating socket.c, and then opening it in nano.  Highlighting should work by default, yeah.
[07:03] <iceroot> rf5: or on any other distro with a package-manager
[07:03] <rf5> what? update ssl ?
[07:03] <Ben64> right
[07:03] <iceroot> rf5: recompiling stuff
[07:03] <aBound> Flannel, Tried it I think if I disable all the highlightings maybe it'll work.
[07:03] <iceroot> !repos | rf5
[07:04] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[07:04] <rf5> ok so what can i do now Iceroot?
[07:04] <aBound> Dang it.
[07:04] <Ben64> it works for some things, for example I compiled my own mplayer2, but openssl is integrated into many things, and can break
[07:04] <iceroot> rf5: what do you want exactly?
[07:04] <Kartagis> sometime I take screenshots and save. however if the destination directory has a file of the same name and I say to replace, I get http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/error.png . how come?
[07:04] <rf5> can i dist upgrade without losing ssh access?
[07:04] <Kartagis> s/sometime/sometimes
[07:05] <Kartagis> rf5: yes
[07:05] <iceroot> rf5: good question
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> rf5: absolutely
[07:05] <iceroot> rf5: depending on the implementation in the deb
[07:05] <Ben64> rf5: i wouldn't say yes 100%
[07:05] <rf5> Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS \n \l
[07:05] <iceroot> rf5: there are postinst scripts which may restart a service
[07:05] <rf5> thats a pretty old ubuntu
[07:05] <rf5> isnt it?
[07:05] <Ben64> very old
[07:05] <rf5> ya
[07:05] <rf5> so ill definitely upgrade it
[07:06] <rf5> will it fix the ssh/ssl thing im having
[07:06] <iceroot> rf5: normally dist-upgrading will not kill the ssh session but i will not say 100%
[07:06] <rf5> issue?
[07:06] <Ben64> should try to undo the compiled version of openssl
[07:06] <iceroot> rf5: but there is a very big ssl bug in ubuntu 6.06
[07:06] <Ben64> and put in some backdoor to get into the system should ssh die
[07:06] <rf5> ya i think that was the bug i was facing
[07:06] <rf5> and then i tried to upgrade it
[07:06] <iceroot> rf5: yes, the famous debian openssl bug
[07:07] <rf5> okay so what you guys suggest me to do?
[07:07] <iceroot> rf5: but with that EOL-Version you have other big security issues too
[07:07] <rf5> if i lose the ssh access ill have to wait till monday to fiix that
[07:07] <Ben64> can you get ip-kvm set up?
[07:07] <aBound> Flannel, Yeah seems it isn't even detecting java syntax blah.
[07:07] <iceroot> rf5: we suggest to upgrade to a supported release
[07:07] <rf5> ya can you guys give me the steps or a website?
[07:07] <Ben64> i'd suggest upgrading to 10.04
[07:07] <iceroot> !eol | rf5 (last link)
[07:08] <rf5> thanks
[07:08] <rf5> ill try that
[07:08] <iceroot> rf5: update to 8.04 and then 10.04
[07:08] <rf5> okay
[07:08] <Flannel> aBound: It doesn't detect the syntax, it detects the filetype.  /etc/nanorc has a whole bunch of includes for the files in /usr/share/nano/ each of those files has a line in it that specifies a regexp for the files of that language
[07:08] <iceroot> rf5: also think about "all ssl-certs" must!! be generated again (imo the package-manager is doing that by default)
[07:09] <rf5> iceroot: that would fix that issue im having with the ssl?
[07:09] <iceroot> rf5: that will fix the debian openssl bug (if you generate new ssl-certs)
[07:09] <rf5> hm
[07:09] <rf5> ya lets give a try
[07:09] <iceroot> rf5: at it will fix some local root exploits and so on, so please upgrade fast to a supported version like 10.04
[07:10] <aBound> Flannel, I know been including file directories in .nanorc but seems something is at fault if it isn't reading the filetype.
[07:10] <iceroot> rf5: and use screen for the update
[07:10] <iceroot> !screen | rf5
[07:10] <rf5> okay
[07:10] <y-chrmsm-adam> Gëntoo
[07:10] <rf5> ill try it out
[07:10] <rf5> thanks!
[07:10] <aBound> No worries I'll try to figure it out.
[07:11] <ionit> hello
[07:11] <aBound> HA! Now it works.
[07:11] <ionit> what works?
[07:12] <ssfdre38> this
[07:12] <ionit> this what?
[07:12] <ionit> what are you referring to by --->"<ssfdre38> this"
[07:13] <ssfdre38> the confusion that you are in is working
[07:13] <iceroot> can you recommend a mailclient (instead of evolution) which is able to get exchange-mails through OWA?
[07:13] <ionit> thunderbird?
[07:13] <ssfdre38> kmail
[07:13] <ionit> microsoft thunderbird
[07:13] <Flannel> aBound: It reads the file extension, not the syntax in the file; but yeah, there could be something wrong.
[07:13] <iceroot> is there a way to disable access for a specific ip for all services WITHOUT iptables?
[07:13] <ionit> or mozilla outlook
[07:13] <iceroot> ionit: no
[07:13] <SycPuppy> sudo apt-get install finch
[07:13] <SycPuppy> bah
[07:14] <ionit> finch is good
[07:14] <ssfdre38> ionit, flip them around its Mozilla Thunderbird
[07:14] <ionit> I know,just sounds nice in that order
[07:14] <iceroot> ionit: thunderbird does not support OWA
[07:14] <ionit> oh
[07:14] <ionit> what is OWA?
[07:14] <ssfdre38> no it doesnt ionit
[07:14] <iceroot> ionit: outlook web access
[07:14] <ionit> OWA = other way around?
[07:15] <ionit> oh
[07:15] <aBound> Flannel, Looks like once I removed the includes in my .nanorc it fixed it. Looks like it's reading it from the nano system-wide file.
[07:15] <ionit> gparted
[07:16] <iceroot> ssfdre38: i will have a look at kmail/kontakt thanks
[07:16] <zjhui> hello , everyone , when  i use the usb to install the the ubuntu , it comes the error:"can't open /dev/sr0 no medium found" , did anyone know how it happen? my computer is IBM T40
[07:16] <ssfdre38> iceroot i use it on my ubuntu for my site e-mail
[07:16] <SycPuppy> Does finch work outside of X? never tried to do that yet.
[07:16] <iceroot> ssfdre38: with OWA?
[07:17] <ionit> zjhui: you mean install from usb drive using live boot?
[07:18] <y-chrmsm-adam> Chuck Norris uses Gentoo
[07:18] <iceroot> ssfdre38: hm i think kmail/kontact will kill my system with kde-stuff, 150 packages to pull
[07:18] <iceroot> y-chrmsm-adam: stop it please
[07:18] <ssfdre38> no it wont
[07:19] <iceroot> ssfdre38: my lubuntu-system with 4 gb /
[07:19] <zjhui> ionit: yes
[07:19] <ssfdre38> how much HDD space do you have?
[07:19] <iceroot> ssfdre38: 4gb /
[07:19] <ssfdre38> the OS is 4gb
[07:19] <iceroot> ssfdre38: its less then 4gb
[07:19] <aBound> iceroot, Flannel, I got it working thanks though.
[07:20] <iceroot> ssfdre38: lubuntu, not ubuntu
[07:20] <aBound> For 2012 trying to learn all kinds of Linux stuff. :P
[07:20] <iceroot> ssfdre38: kmail is pulling mysql-server..... i dont think i want something like that
[07:20] <ionit> lubuntu?
[07:20] <ionit> lemme google it,sounds too interesting
[07:20] <iceroot> ionit: ubuntu with lxde instead of gnome/unity
[07:20] <ionit> oh
[07:20] <iceroot> !lubuntu | ionit
[07:21] <ionit> lxde is good
[07:21] <ionit> lxde <3
[07:21] <ionit> so lubuntu is pretty small compared to ubuntu in disk requirement?
[07:22] <iceroot> ionit: less then 4gb
[07:22] <iceroot> ionit: the same goes for the ram usage, 117mb at the moment
[07:22] <ionit> 4GB?
[07:22] <Ben64> is it pretty?
[07:22] <ionit> my usb is only 3.76GB!!
[07:22] <iceroot> ionit: less
[07:23] <ionit> how much less
[07:23] <ionit> 10MB?
[07:23] <iceroot> ionit: less then 3gb i think
[07:23] <ionit> oh
[07:24] <ionit> no I want to live boot it from USB
[07:24] <iceroot> Ben64: http://www.mermaid-productions.com/miscjunk/linux/lxde_screenshot2_091709.png
[07:24] <Ben64> i'm still trying to decide what to use when 12.04 comes out
[07:24] <Ben64> not a fan of unity
[07:24] <ionit> unity is AWESOME!!!
[07:24] <Ben64> : /
[07:24] <ionit> no joking
[07:24] <ionit> didn't see it
[07:25] <ionit> am in gentoo and haiku atm
[07:25] <aBound> Anybody still use mutt?
[07:25] <ionit> me!
[07:25] <y-chrmsm-adam> aBound: yes, I do use mutt.
[07:25] <ionit> mutt is pain but well alpine is broken so using mutt
[07:26] <makara> hi. someone brought a gnome3 notebook to me. they accidently activated the zoom feature on the desktop. how to turn it off?
[07:26] <aBound> y-chrmsm-adam, Is it still useful to use in terms it hasn't been updated in a while.
[07:27] <y-chrmsm-adam> aBound: uh??? mutt is designed to do what's supposed to do.
[07:28] <y-chrmsm-adam> 'still useful' statements doesn't make sense.
[07:28] <aBound> Mutt hasn't been updated in over two years. :P
[07:28] <aBound> y-chrmsm-adam, Security-wise is it still useful or is it left vulnerable.
[07:29] <y-chrmsm-adam> aBound: join #mutt
[07:30] <aBound> Joined it.
[07:30] <aBound> Now just waiting for a reply.
[07:31] <y-chrmsm-adam> aBound: best thing to do is try a program for yourself then you can decide.
[07:31] <aBound> y-chrmsm-adam, I won't disagree there.
[07:31] <makara> got it. accessibility icon > zoom > off
[07:31] <aBound> I use thunderbird with gmail.
[07:32] <makara> is there a way to disable the accessibility icon in gnome 3?
[07:32] <aBound> Oh well.
[07:33] <y-chrmsm-adam> 02:32 < makara> is there a way to disable the accessibility icon in gnome 3?
[07:34] <rf5> can anyone help me? http://pastebin.com/YSxxc2Mf
[07:35] <Chipzzz> rf5: you could try running aptitude in console mode & see if it will resolve the problems
[07:36] <y-chrmsm-adam> that must've been a mistake
[07:36] <rf5> what should i select Chipzzz
[07:37] <iceroot> rf5: can you paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" and "cat /etc/issue"
[07:38] <rf5> i was following the site you sent to me but they are outdated repos so i had to find it manually
[07:38] <rf5> rock:/etc/apt# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:38] <rf5> ## EOL upgrade sources.list
[07:38] <rf5> # Required
[07:38] <rf5> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[07:38] <rf5> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[07:38] <rf5> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[07:38] <rf5> rock:/etc/apt#
[07:38] <FloodBot1> rf5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:38] <y-chrmsm-adam> lawl
[07:38] <iceroot> !paste | rf5
[07:38] <rf5> uops!
[07:38] <y-chrmsm-adam> retard
[07:38] <bigbrovar> hi guys, I am setting up ubuntu laptops for students in my uni (am the school's sysadmin) I want to use ubuntu 11.10 but am kinda concerned about the battery drain problem. I read that the battery drain issue with the linux kernel has been fixed in the latest stable kernel release (not sure the version number) anyone knows if this fix has been backported to 11.10 or where I can download and test an ubuntu packaged version of a kernel version which solve
[07:38] <bigbrovar> s the battery drain?
[07:39] <rf5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/793506/
[07:39] <Flannel> y-chrmsm-adam: be polite.  Not everyone is an expert at IRC like you are.
[07:39] <Ben64> y-chrmsm-adam: watch the language
[07:39] <rf5> whos the retard y-chrmsm-adam?
[07:39] <iceroot> rf5: y-chrmsm-adam stop it please
[07:39] <Ben64> rf5: you shouldn't use that language as well
[07:39] <Flannel> rf5: Don't bother with him.
[07:39] <y-chrmsm-adam> oh my bad, wrong window
[07:40] <rf5> iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/793506/
[07:40] <iceroot> rf5: ok
[07:41] <Chipzzz> rf5: on the bright side, it doesn't look like aptitude did anything :)
[07:41] <rf5> ya
[07:41] <rf5> idk its weird
[07:41] <rf5> its a very old system
[07:42] <iceroot> rf5: can you paste the output of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc" please
[07:43] <rf5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/793508/
[07:43] <Chipzzz> rf5: you will have physical control over the machine soon?
[07:43] <rf5> monday
[07:43] <Chipzzz> rf5: I would try to avoid doing more than is necessary in the meanwhile
[07:44] <iceroot> rf5: please paste the content of /var/lib/dpkg/info/shared-mime-info.postinst
[07:45] <rf5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/793511/
[07:46] <iceroot> rf5: output of the command "/usr/bin/update-mime-database /usr/share/mime"
[07:46] <iceroot> rf5: i guess that needs sudo-rights
[07:47] <rf5> ya im loged as root
[07:48] <rf5> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:48] <iceroot> rf5: do you have the program "strace" installed?
[07:49] <tensorpudding> it means that the program ran into a segmentation fault, and because your system was configured to allow for core dumps, it created a core dump
[07:49] <tensorpudding> segmentation faults are a form of major bug when the program attempts to access memory outside of its addressable space
[07:49] <tensorpudding> they're tricky to fix
[07:50] <iceroot> rf5: there is a dirty workaround
[07:50] <rf5> ya
[07:50] <rf5> i know haha
[07:50] <iceroot> rf5: is that an important system?
[07:50] <rf5> nah not much
[07:50] <iceroot> rf5: ok, lets do some dirty hacks
[07:51]  * rf5 <3 iceroot
[07:51] <shazbotmcnasty> heh
[07:51] <iceroot> rf5: open /var/lib/dpkg/info/shared-mime-info.postinst and put a # on line9, then run "sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get updae && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[07:51] <Chipzzz> <-- feels he is in the presence of greatness
[07:51] <shazbotmcnasty> updae
[07:52] <idefix> !ghostscript
[07:52] <iceroot> shazbotmcnasty: sudo apt-get update instead of updae of course
[07:52] <shazbotmcnasty> ..sorry, habit of pointing it out
[07:52] <iceroot> shazbotmcnasty: no problem
[07:52] <iceroot> rf5: update instead of updae of course
[07:53] <rf5> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:53] <Chipzzz> isn't it apt-get -f install?
[07:53] <ssfdre38> rf5, are you using sudo
[07:53] <iceroot> Chipzzz: should be the same
[07:53] <iceroot> rf5: run that as root/sudo
[07:54] <shazbotmcnasty> lol
[07:54] <Ben64> i think he is running as root
[07:54] <ssfdre38> check and see if you have any other programs under root
[07:54] <Chipzzz> yes
[07:54] <rf5> ya as root iceroot
[07:54] <rf5> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:54] <iceroot> rf5: is another process running?
[07:54] <iceroot> rf5: ps aux | grep dpkg
[07:55] <rf5> hum
[07:55] <Chipzzz> aptitude, maybe?
[07:55] <rf5> ya
[07:55] <rf5> def aptitude
[07:55] <rf5> sec
[07:55] <FloodBot1> rf5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:55] <ssfdre38> that will cause it to happen so you need to close that out and you will be fine rf5
[07:55] <haidt> what's mean GD+freetype
[07:55] <haidt> plz
[07:55] <rf5> ya i did it
[07:55] <rf5> another error
[07:55] <rf5> sec
[07:56] <rf5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/793519/
[07:56] <ssfdre38> haidt, is it asking you need it or are you asking about it?
[07:56] <haidt> yes
[07:57] <ssfdre38> yes to what cause its 2 questions ask at once
[07:57] <haidt> i have customer
[07:57] <haidt> require gd+freetype
[07:57] <iceroot> rf5: content of /var/lib/dpkg/info/synaptic.postinst
[07:57] <haidt> but customer is japanes
[07:58] <haidt> gd(freeType有効), apc, soap, pdo, suhosin, soap, mcriypt, iconv, ctype, dom, pecl, json, その他必要なものの設定をお願いします。
[07:58] <iceroot> rf5: you are already root and calling sudo?
[07:59] <ssfdre38> haidt, its saying you need to install GD and Freetype on your server so use sudo apt-get install php5-gd
[07:59] <haidt> yes
[07:59] <haidt> use root
[08:00] <puff_> sudo su works
[08:00] <iceroot> puff_: sudo su is wrong
[08:00] <ssfdre38> puff_, use sudo -s
[08:01] <iceroot> puff_: it does not work
[08:01] <iceroot> puff_: and lets use this channel
[08:01] <rf5> iceroot im root
[08:01]  * haidt slaps ssfdre38 around a bit with a large trout
[08:01] <iceroot> rf5: if you have a root shell please dont use sudo
[08:01] <iceroot> rf5: and the best is not to use a root-shell but sudo
[08:01] <haidt> ssssfdre38 yes, i'm trying
[08:01] <rf5> ya i didnt sudo
[08:02] <rf5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/793523/
[08:02] <iceroot> rf5: the paste says you used sudo
[08:02] <rf5> did i?
[08:02] <rf5> i just copy paste
[08:02] <rf5> oh ya
[08:02] <rf5> sorry i copy paste ur line
[08:02] <rf5> didnt notice
[08:02] <iceroot> rf5: output of "scrollkeeper-update -q"
[08:03] <rf5> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[08:03] <puff_> nytol I gotta get some sleep
[08:03] <iceroot> rf5: your systems seems i a very good state :)
[08:03] <Chipzzz> nite puff_
[08:04] <iceroot> rf5: put a # on line 6
[08:04] <rf5> LOL
[08:04] <iceroot> rf5: then rerun the install -f line from me
[08:04] <rf5> ka
[08:05] <Chipzzz> (less the sudo)
[08:05] <rf5> ya
[08:05] <rf5> haha
[08:05] <rf5> well
[08:05] <rf5> still with the error
[08:05] <iceroot> rf5: also the output of "uptime" and "uname -a" would be interesting
[08:05] <FloodBot1> rf5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:05] <iceroot> !enter | rf5
[08:05] <iceroot> !who | rf5
[08:05] <Ben64> comma > enter
[08:06] <iceroot> rf5: and lets post usefull details instead of "still that error"
[08:06] <rf5> doesnt metter. ill fix it monday. thanks for the help
[08:06] <rf5> im feeling im being annoying
[08:06] <iceroot> rf5: but can you provide the output of "uptime" and "uname -a" just interesting me
[08:07] <Chipzzz> sorry rf5, was hoping for better results for you :(
[08:07] <rf5> ya its all good you guys did ur bests
[08:07] <rf5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/793526/
[08:08] <Ben64> custom kernel?
[08:08] <iceroot> rf5: what? 2.6.32 on 6.06?
[08:08] <iceroot> rf5: and then a custom one?
[08:08] <rf5> ya
[08:08] <rf5> well this is a friends system
[08:08] <iceroot> rf5: any other selfmade modifications?
[08:08] <rf5> he asked me to help him fixing
[08:08] <iceroot> rf5: like libc and so on?
[08:08] <rf5> i dont know much about it.
[08:08] <Ben64> looks like a frankenstein system
[08:08] <Chipzzz> lol
[08:08] <rf5> haha ya looks weird.
[08:09] <iceroot> rf5: first would be to boot the normal 6.06 kernel
[08:09] <iceroot> rf5: 2.6.32 on that system will kill a lot
[08:09] <Ben64> still was 2.6 on dapper though, right?
[08:09] <iceroot> rf5: and when it is a custom kernel just more
[08:09] <rf5> ya i was gonna do that on monday.
[08:09] <iceroot> !info linux-image dapper
[08:09] <Ben64> ooh
[08:09] <Ben64> !info linux-image hardy
[08:09] <Chipzzz> it was the gnome libs that kept crashing for unconfigured deps
[08:09] <iceroot> Ben64: 2.6 yes
[08:10] <rf5> no ur right, its a dapper
[08:10] <Ben64> Linux ben64 2.6.32-37-generic #81-Ubuntu SMP Fri Dec 2 20:32:42 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:10] <Ben64> ubottu is wrong :|
[08:10] <biginttosh> suggest antivirus for ubuntu
[08:10] <iceroot> Ben64: he is not wrong just a bad format
[08:10] <iceroot> Ben64: 2.6.24,30,32
[08:11] <rf5> well i dont wanna be annoying so im giving up and ill fix it monday
[08:11] <Ben64> iceroot: ohh
[08:11] <iceroot> biginttosh: for samba shares? or linux itself?
[08:11] <iceroot> rf5: just reboot the system with the default kernel
[08:11] <Chipzzz> it was an interesting exercise, rf5, thank you
[08:11] <biginttosh> linux itself
[08:11] <iceroot> rf5: everything else cant be supported here
[08:11] <iceroot> biginttosh: no need
[08:11] <iceroot> !virus | biginttosh
[08:11] <Ben64> ssh might die upon reboot though
[08:12] <rf5> ya anyway i really appreciate ur patiance and help
[08:12] <rf5> thanks guys!
[08:12] <iceroot> Ben64: everything else already died on that system
[08:12] <biginttosh> thanks
[08:12] <iceroot> rf5: another important thing
[08:12] <biginttosh> iceroot, what about trojans and malware code
[08:12] <iceroot> rf5: output of "dpkg --print-architecture"
[08:12] <ab_> hello
[08:13] <iceroot> biginttosh: not a problem on GNU/Linux
[08:13] <iceroot> biginttosh: nothing to worry about
[08:13] <Ben64> biginttosh: all you have to do is not run strange commands that you don't know what they do, and don't log in as root for normal activities
[08:13] <rf5> 64 bits iceroot
[08:13] <iceroot> rf5: ok
[08:13] <iceroot> rf5: so the command gave x64 (it can be different from the kernel)
[08:14] <Zyclops> hi guys .. my server stopped booting.. and every time i try to do anything I get the error "error while loading shared libraries libpam.so.0 wrong elf" .. i've booted it up by using a ubuntu usb disk .. so i can get root access
[08:14] <rf5> amd64
[08:14] <Zyclops> but i've got no idea how to about diagnosing the issue. any ideas?
[08:14] <iceroot> rf5: ok
[08:14] <Chipzzz> Zyclops: what's the issur?
[08:14] <Chipzzz> (issue)
[08:14] <biginttosh> iceroot, nice
[08:14] <iceroot> rf5: my suggestion is a backup and a reboot with the default kernel
[08:15] <Zyclops> Chipzze: can't login, can't do anything, can't ssh
[08:15] <rf5> ya i was going to do that and then upgrade ubuntu
[08:15] <iceroot> Zyclops: because pam is doing the auth
[08:15] <Zyclops> Chipzze: the login prompt appears, but after i try to type my username in and press enter it gets that issue
[08:16] <OneSquared> Hello, i installed apache, mysql and php from source. And in my file index.php where i wrote <?php echo "Hello World"; ?>. The problem is that don't parse the tag php :/ Do you know why ?
[08:16] <Kartagis> sometimes I take screenshots and save. however if the destination directory has a file of the same name and I say to replace, I get http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/error.png . how come?
[08:16] <iceroot> OneSquared: why from source?
[08:16] <Zyclops> iceroot: ok.. any idea on what i can do to fix it?
[08:16] <iceroot> Zyclops: chroot into the system and have a deeper look at the package-state
[08:16] <Zyclops> i've googled and most of th epeople having this issue
[08:17] <Chipzzz> Zyclops: if you get in as root and change your password you should be able to log in with it with ssh afterwords
[08:17] <biginttosh> iceroot, what log file should i monitor for all activities
[08:17] <Zyclops> are with specific issues
[08:17] <iceroot> biginttosh: there is no single logfile for everything
[08:17] <iceroot> biginttosh: what info you exactly need?
[08:17] <biginttosh> iceroot, how about syslog ?
[08:17] <Zyclops> interesting.. libpam.so.0 => notfound
[08:17] <OneSquared> iceroot, to learn
[08:17] <iceroot> !find libpam.so.0
[08:17] <biginttosh> iceroot, well i want to monitor activities occuring on system
[08:18] <OneSquared> iceroot, I want to learn unix administration
[08:18] <iceroot> biginttosh: /var/log/syslog is a good start
[08:18] <biginttosh> iceroot, like opening files/handles/auths/etc
[08:18] <iceroot> OneSquared: ok
[08:18] <iceroot> biginttosh: /var/log/auth and /var/log/syslog are your friends
[08:19] <iceroot> OneSquared: the "problem" is you have to tell apache to parse php-files which is done in the apacheconfig
[08:19] <Chipzzz> Zyclops: oh! did you see what iceroot did for you?
[08:19] <biginttosh> iceroot, i cannot find /var/log/messages what happened to it
[08:19] <iceroot> Zyclops: you know how to chroot?
[08:19] <iceroot> biginttosh: no need for that
[08:20] <iceroot> biginttosh: just syslog and auth
[08:20] <OneSquared> iceroot, Yes but how ?
[08:20] <iceroot> OneSquared: edit the apache2.conf or httpd.conf (cant remember the file)
[08:20] <iceroot> OneSquared: in /etc/apache2/
[08:20] <Zyclops> find libpam.s0.0 − no such file or dir
[08:21] <iceroot> Zyclops: that command was not for you
[08:21] <iceroot> Zyclops: i just looked in what package the file is
[08:21] <iceroot> Zyclops: so you know how to chroot?
[08:21] <Zyclops> chipzz: erm.. yep?
[08:21] <Zyclops> iceroot: nah but i'm googling.. should do soon
[08:21] <OneSquared> iceroot, Ok thanks.
[08:21] <iceroot> Zyclops: no need for google
[08:21] <iceroot> Zyclops: first boot a live-cd (with the same architecture as your installed system)
[08:22] <Zyclops> ok done.. using ubuntu live-cd (well usb disk)
[08:22] <iceroot> OneSquared: or maybe it as /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini cant remeber, also see #httpd
[08:23] <iceroot> Zyclops: now you need to mount your harddisc-partition which contains /
[08:23] <fishcooker> happy new year
[08:23] <iceroot> Zyclops: mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/ (replace sdaX with the name of the partition)
[08:23] <Zyclops> ok done
[08:23] <OneSquared> iceroot, OK
[08:24] <fishcooker> is there anyone have globus installed on your ubuntubox from repository?
[08:24] <iceroot> !anyone | fishcooker
[08:24] <iceroot> Zyclops: ok, now enter the directory where you mounted the drive
[08:24] <Chipzzz> happy new year fishcooker
[08:25] <iceroot> Zyclops: you now see in that folder something called etc var usr and so on?
[08:25] <Zyclops> yep
[08:25] <iceroot> Zyclops: just type "chroot ."
[08:25] <Zyclops> i'done
[08:26] <Zyclops> pwd returns "."
[08:26] <iceroot> Zyclops: great, now you are in your installed system
[08:26] <Zyclops> sorry /
[08:26] <iceroot> Zyclops: please provide the output of "dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc" and "cat /etc/issue"
[08:27] <iceroot> !paste  | Zyclops
[08:27] <Zyclops> ok.. i'll have to see if i can ssh into the box
[08:27] <Zyclops> otherwise i won't be able to get the files off it
[08:27] <iceroot> Zyclops: is there any output from the grep command?
[08:28] <iceroot> Zyclops: package-names
[08:29] <Zyclops> ah no
[08:29] <Zyclops> no output
[08:29] <Zyclops> well no packages
[08:29] <tafelpoot> is this the right place for asking questions about ppa?
[08:29] <Zyclops> it just displays description, version.. and then +++-[08:29] <iceroot> Zyclops: ok thats good
[08:30] <tafelpoot> I want to test my packages. Compile them before uploading them to the ppa servers
[08:30] <Zyclops> Ubuntu 10.04 LTS \n \1  <— is /etc/issue
[08:30] <tafelpoot> So I don't have to wait a few hours before I know if a compile worked...
[08:30] <extlinux> Hi, is this the right channel if I need help with starting ubuntu from another partition with extlinux? :D
[08:30] <iceroot> Zyclops: i386?
[08:30] <Zyclops> doens't say that, but yeah this is a server box
[08:31] <iceroot> tafelpoot: go into the package-root-dir and run "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot"
[08:31] <iceroot> Zyclops: ls -l /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpam.so.0
[08:31] <iceroot> tafelpoot: that will build the deb-file for you
[08:31] <tafelpoot> okay nice
[08:32] <iceroot> tafelpoot: but there are still cases where the build can fail and my command will run successfully
[08:32] <tafelpoot> iceroot: it's a start
[08:32] <iceroot> tafelpoot: mostly when you set incorrect build-depends which are already installed on your system
[08:33] <iceroot> tafelpoot: but its an easy way to build packages
[08:33] <Zyclops> iceroot: no directories /lib/i386*    there is a directory called i686 but only has EWG under it
[08:33] <tafelpoot> iceroot: do you have a good pointer on how to build combined packages? I want to combine gearman and libdrizzle
[08:33] <iceroot> Zyclops: dpkg --print-architecture
[08:33] <Zyclops> iceroot: amd64
[08:33] <iceroot> tafelpoot: combined?
[08:33] <extlinux> If I "convert" the grub commands to extlinux (which is on a different partition), ubuntu stops with an error that the root could not be mounted and that I should place a correct root statement, I tried with UUID, label and /dev/sdxX but none work.
[08:34] <iceroot> Zyclops: ok then its not /lib/i386
[08:34] <tafelpoot> iceroot: probably it is called differently...
[08:34] <Zyclops> iceroot: haha yeah
[08:34] <iceroot> Zyclops: please have a look there if there is something with amd64 or x64
[08:34] <extlinux> boot partition is ext2, ubuntu partitions are ext3 and ext4
[08:34] <iceroot> Zyclops: in /lib
[08:34] <tafelpoot> iceroot: I'll google some more to see what I can find...
[08:34] <Zyclops> ld-linux-x86-64.so.2
[08:34] <iceroot> tafelpoot: you mean where a source-package is providing more then one binary package?
[08:35] <tafelpoot> iceroot: yeah that!
[08:35] <iceroot> Zyclops: there should be something like "lib/xxx-linux-gnu"
[08:35] <mucus> so i'm trying to setup a ubuntu vm.  I'm at the install setup right now.  When I enter a name for the computer it says "This name already exists on the network." what's up with that and what can I do about it?
[08:35] <iceroot> tafelpoot: what info you nedd about that?
[08:36] <tafelpoot> iceroot: where to start :s
[08:36] <Chipzzz> mucus: unless there really is another machine by that name, keep going
[08:36] <iceroot> tafelpoot: hm good question
[08:36] <mucus> no matter what i enter i get that response, even if i enter a random string of characters
[08:36] <tafelpoot> iceroot: hehe
[08:36] <extlinux> Can anyone help me?
[08:36] <extlinux> or guide me where to look?
[08:36] <Zyclops> iceroot: no directory with that name
[08:36] <mucus> and i can't just go forward w/o naming the machine
[08:37] <iceroot> Zyclops: dpkg -L libpam0g | grep libpam.so
[08:37] <Zyclops> also the ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 is a file, not a directory
[08:37] <Chipzzz> mucus: name it what you were planning to and ignore the message... it'll be ok
[08:37] <mucus> oh really?
[08:37] <fishcooker> hello globus
[08:37] <mucus> interesting
[08:37] <iceroot> tafelpoot: i would suggest the debian-wikis about building debfiles
[08:37] <iceroot> tafelpoot: i think i also have my infos from there
[08:37] <mucus> oh, derp.  i needed to enter a password
[08:37] <mucus> thanks Chipzzz
[08:38] <iceroot> tafelpoot: also you can have a look at existing packages
[08:38] <tafelpoot> iceroot: thanks
[08:38] <iceroot> tafelpoot: apt-get source lubuntu-meta
[08:38] <iceroot> tafelpoot: have a look there at debian/control
[08:38] <Zyclops>   /lib/libpam.so.0 /lib/libpam.so.0.82.2
[08:38] <Chipzzz> mucus: no problem... happened to me recently & hasn't caused a problem when I ignored the message
[08:38] <Kartagis> sometimes I take screenshots and save. however if the destination directory has a file of the same name and I say to replace, I get http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/error.png . how come?
[08:38] <iceroot> tafelpoot: the option is imo called "provide"
[08:39] <extlinux> anyone?
[08:39] <tafelpoot> iceroot: so one source 'provides' more than one package...
[08:39] <no_gravity> Hello! I tried for a couple of days now, but I cannot live without a taskbar. Are there any ways to get a taskbar back in Ubuntu 11?
[08:39] <iceroot> Zyclops: dpkg -L ia32-libs | grep libpam.so
[08:39] <iceroot> tafelpoot: correct
[08:39] <iceroot> tafelpoot: and the package "lubuntu-meta" is doing that
[08:40] <iceroot> tafelpoot: so you have an example to look at
[08:40] <mucus> wouldn't the taskbar be part of the desktop environment?
[08:40] <tafelpoot> iceroot: nice!
[08:40] <Zyclops> ia32-libs is not installed
[08:41] <iceroot> !info ia32-libs
[08:41] <iceroot> !info ia32-libs lucid
[08:41] <iceroot> Zyclops: hm i dont have an amd64 system for testing
[08:42] <Zyclops> yeah.. no idea why this servers an amd box.. every single of computer we have is intel
[08:42] <iceroot> Zyclops: can you do this "sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && sudo apt-file search libpam.so
[08:42] <iceroot> Zyclops: amd64 does not mean amd cpu
[08:42] <iceroot> Zyclops: amd64 is just the name for 64bit
[08:42] <Zyclops> i can do that command without the sudo
[08:42] <Zyclops> sudo won't run.. comes up with the pam error
[08:43] <iceroot> !find libpam.so.0 lucid
[08:43] <mucus> i'm installing a disto called "pinguy os" it's supposed to come packed with tons of packages.... anyone here use it?
[08:44] <iceroot> !info ia32-libs lucid
[08:44] <extlinux> anyone who can help? noone ever installed ubuntu in multiboot environment with extlinux?
[08:44] <iceroot> strange
[08:44] <iceroot> Zyclops: i will do some seaching
[08:44] <Chipzzz> backports, maybe
[08:45] <Zyclops1> stupid VPN
[08:45] <Zyclops1> downloading updates.. couldnt' run it as sudo as i got the pam error
[08:45] <iceroot> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/amd64/ia32-libs/download
[08:46] <iceroot> !info ia32-libs lucid-security
[08:46] <iceroot> Zyclops: do you have a root-account on that machine?
[08:47]  * no_gravity tries to install gnome-panel and hopes he gets the taskbar back...
[08:47] <Zyclops1> iceroot: yeah i do.. but couldn't login to it with the pam issue
[08:48] <lalaland1125> This is going to sound like a stupid question, but if my computer off while something is scheduled with cron, will it happen when the computer is switched on again?
[08:48] <tafelpoot> lalaland1125: no it will not...
[08:48] <iceroot> Zyclops1: ok, lets try this
[08:48] <hot2trot> for some reason, I leave my computer on (connected to a TV) and then after I leave and come back, I can't get the TV to show the computer... I can ssh into and it is on, just can't see it's display on the TV... any ideas?
[08:49] <Zyclops1> iceroot: ok apt-file search comes back with a bunch of packages
[08:49] <Chipzzz> ia32-libs for lucid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ia32-libs
[08:50] <iceroot> Zyclops1: how you installed apt-file?
[08:50] <atvr> hot2trot, have you tried to shut off and back on the tv
[08:50] <iceroot> Zyclops1: i thought you dont have root-access
[08:50] <Zyclops1> on the machine i don't.. but using the ubuntu live usb disk
[08:50] <Zyclops1> i think i do
[08:51] <almoxarife> hot2trot: you suspended the video, look at power savings settings
[08:51] <iceroot> Zyclops1: ok
[08:51] <Zyclops1> sorry if i'm making things confusing.. i usually just do programming :)
[08:51] <iceroot> Zyclops1: have a look at " /var/log/syslog or /var/log/auth where pam is searching for its libpam.so.0
[08:52] <hot2trot> atvr: I have tried unplugging and replugging, turning the tv on and off
[08:53] <hot2trot> almoxarife: I went to power savings and turned off all sleep and screensaver stuff, but I don't use gnome, I use ratpoison... I suppose I should test that it doesn't work in gnome as well
[08:53] <atvr> hot2trot, almoxarife is right follow is advice :)
[08:53] <Aleco> Anyone talking in here?
[08:53] <iceroot> Zyclops1: workarounf (have to sleep) download this http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/ia32-libs/ia32-libs_2.7ubuntu26.1_amd64.deb  extract it (also possible on the live usb) and place the libpam.so.0 to the place your system is looking for it, reboot the system and it should work
[08:53] <hot2trot> Aleco: no
[08:54] <Zyclops1> iceroot: neither of those logs have any reference
[08:54] <Zyclops1> ok :)
[08:54] <Zyclops1> iceroot: thankyou sooooooo much for helping
[08:54] <iceroot> Zyclops1: my system (32bit) is using /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpam.so.0
[08:54] <iceroot> Zyclops1: i dont know what path amd64 is using
[08:54] <Zyclops1> right ok
[08:54] <Zyclops1> thanks.. we'll hack around and try and figure it out
[08:54] <Chipzzz> shouldn't sudo apt-get install -f openssh fix it?
[08:55] <iceroot> maybe someone with an amd64 system can run this "dpkg -L ia32-libs | grep libpam.so"
[08:55] <iceroot> Chipzzz: pam is broken
[08:55] <iceroot> Chipzzz: so no root,sudo or other authentification
[08:55] <aeplus> can't boot in single user mode?
[08:55] <iceroot> Zyclops1: ah maybe this is working too "sudo chroot ." instead of "chroot ."
[08:56] <Chipzzz> he's already root, isn't he? ... so just apt-get -f install openssh?
[08:56] <iceroot> Zyclops1: so maybe you are chrooted as root then and can easily use apt-get
[08:56] <iceroot> Chipzzz: why openssh?
[08:56] <iceroot> Chipzzz: pam is the problem
[08:56] <Chipzzz> it depends on pan, doesn't it?
[08:56] <Chipzzz> (pam)
[08:56] <aeplus> hah
[08:57] <Zyclops1> it's odd that it just breaks
[08:57] <no_gravity> Hello again! Now I installed gnome-panel, logged in again and choosed "gnome-classic (without effects)". The bottom panel is back. But I cannot add things. A right click doesnt bring up anything. Anybody who knows how to fix this?
[08:57] <aeplus> not sure how ssh explains inability to use sudo
[08:57] <Zyclops1> it's not like we've pulled any updates or anything recently
[08:57] <iceroot> Zyclops1: can you do the sudo chroot . hack?
[08:57] <Zyclops1> sudo won't work
[08:57] <Zyclops1> but i think i already have root acesss to everything
[08:57] <iceroot> Zyclops1: whoami
[08:57] <Zyclops1> sudo sayds the error while loading shared libraries: liibpam
[08:58] <Zyclops1> root
[08:58] <Zyclops1> << whoami
[08:58] <iceroot> Zyclops1: great
[08:58] <iceroot> Zyclops1: apt-get install ia32-libs
[08:58] <almoxarife> ssh does not effect sudo, if it did I would be screwd
[08:58] <iceroot> almoxarife: ssh and sudo are using pam
[08:58] <Chipzzz> lol
[08:58] <Zyclops1> downloading
[08:58] <iceroot> and everything else on unix/linux is using pam
[08:59] <Chipzzz> almoxarife: but the missing lib is a dependency of ssh, so apt-get -f should fix it
[08:59] <iceroot> Zyclops1: after that please reboot in your normal system and see if it worked
[08:59] <Zyclops1> downloading now 2 mins left
[08:59] <iceroot> Zyclops1: to reboot first type "exit"
[09:00] <iceroot> Zyclops1: to leave the chroot else you are rebooting the installed system which will not work
[09:00] <Zyclops1> right
[09:00] <Zyclops1> oh hmm
[09:00] <almoxarife> Chipzzz: I would not use ssh and sudo to fix ssh, I am not sure what would happen there
[09:00] <Chipzzz> lol... that's a point
[09:01] <someonelese> i'm writing on my conkyrc.. i have a todo.txt file of which i want to display line 1-5 in one file, line 6-10 in the next etc...but i can't figure out how to do it. some help please :(
[09:01] <Chipzzz> it's easy enough to see if it installs the missing lib, though
[09:01] <Zyclops1> so why would critical system stuff just break by itself?
[09:01] <iceroot> Zyclops1: i should by a pc with amd64 :) i only have i386 and so i never can do some amd64 testing
[09:02] <Chipzzz> good question, Zyclops1
[09:02] <fishcooker> ubuntu unattended install?
[09:02] <iceroot> Zyclops1: thats a question you should ask /var/log/apt/term.log
[09:02] <Zyclops1> Chipzzz: this is development server which mainly just sits around does nothing.. except accept git pushes and runs our software management stuff
[09:03] <Zyclops1> cool. i'll check it out
[09:03] <iceroot> Zyclops1: ut i dont know if ia32-libs is the main package for amd64
[09:03] <Chipzzz> Zyclops1: Oh, all sorts of strange things happen on dev servers
[09:03] <iceroot> Zyclops1: but because there is an amd64 deb i guess so
[09:04] <almoxarife> opens source=stuff breaks, closed source=stuff breaks and the nice person tell you to re-install
[09:04] <Zyclops1> Chipzzz: ah right.. i suppose ti probably has lots of programming packages installed
[09:04] <Chipzzz> Zyclops1: if anyone's writing c code or assembly, there's no telling what might happen to the server
[09:04] <Zyclops1> I think our servers are a lot simpler because they are all VMs so we don't actually have access to the real underlying software.. + i understand all the services that run on them (nginx, ruby, postgres etc)
[09:05] <Zyclops1> chipzz: nah just web stuff.. node.js, ruby, postgres, mysql
[09:05] <someonelese> ok rephrase.. if i do cat foo.txt .. how can i use grep (or cut/awk..?) to display only line 1 - 5 (or 6 - 10 etc)
[09:05] <Zyclops1> hmmm /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libssslo.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong agic bytes at the start
[09:05] <Chipzzz> Zyclops1: Oh, that's a bit harder to explain, then
[09:05] <Zyclops1> << can i ignore that?
[09:06] <Eren> I've updated the packages in 10.10, this includes linux-image as well. Now, I don't have a sound
[09:06] <iceroot> Zyclops1: hm
[09:06] <Eren> anyone experencing this problem?
[09:06] <Chipzzz> I don't know, but it doesn't sound like you can
[09:07] <Zyclops1> rebooting
[09:07] <Zyclops1> :(
[09:07] <Zyclops1> no luck
[09:07] <almoxarife> Zyclops1: a 64bit in a 32 bit?
[09:07] <almoxarife> Zyclops1: a 64bit in a 32 bit system?
[09:07] <iceroot> !find /usr/lib/libssslo.so
[09:08] <iceroot> almoxarife: amd64 system
[09:08] <Zyclops1>    /bin/login: error while loading shared lirbaries libpam.so.0 wrong ELF class ELFCLASS32
[09:08] <Zyclops1> is what i get after typing in username and pressing enter
[09:08] <Zyclops1> rebooting to USB
[09:08] <iceroot> Zyclops1: dpkg --print-architecture == amd64?
[09:08] <Zyclops1> iceroot: yeah thats right
[09:08] <Chipzzz> Zyclops1: didn't sound like an error that could be ignored
[09:09] <almoxarife> Zyclops1:    /bin/login: error while loading shared lirbaries libpam.so.0 wrong ELF class ELFCLASS32 <-- system expected the 64bit file, found the 32bit
[09:09] <Zyclops1> Chipzzz: haha guess not
[09:09] <iceroot> almoxarife: we install ia32-libs from the amd64 package to have libpam.so.0
[09:09] <Chipzzz> at least there's a libpam.so.0 now, though, even if it is the wrong ELF class
[09:09] <iceroot> almoxarife: because that file was missing
[09:10] <iceroot> !find libpam.so.0
[09:10] <iceroot> !find libpam.so.0 lucid
[09:10] <almoxarife> iceroot: don't know about that, I am just saying the error indicates the system expected a 64bit file
[09:10] <iceroot> Zyclops1: apt-get remove ia32-libs && apt-get install libpam0g
[09:11] <Zyclops1> ok one sec.. getting root back
[09:11] <iceroot> Zyclops1: ok, resuse the chroot we did earlier
[09:11] <Zyclops1> cool
[09:11] <Zyclops1> i'm in recovery mode
[09:12] <Zyclops1> do i need to chroot it still?
[09:12] <iceroot> Zyclops1: no if you have a rootshell
[09:12] <almoxarife> Zyclops1: what happens if you type 'login'?
[09:12] <Zyclops1> ok i have rootshell
[09:12] <Zyclops1> almoxarife: same error as ebfore
[09:12] <Zyclops1> wrong ELF class; ELFCLASS32
[09:13] <Zyclops1> removing package
[09:14] <Zyclops1> ok login works
[09:14] <dirtycookie> hello people i need some help with my cups server
[09:14] <Chipzzz> Zyclops1: :)
[09:14] <dirtycookie> can someone help
[09:14] <Zyclops1> but.. after login it says "Segmentation" fault
[09:14] <Chipzzz> Zyclops1: :(
[09:15] <iceroot> Zyclops1: from pam?
[09:15] <Zyclops1> iceroot: it doen'st give any information about where the fault is from
[09:15] <Zyclops1> ohhh
[09:15] <Zyclops1> just got one to work
[09:15] <Zyclops1> one of the users i can login as
[09:15] <Chipzzz> is that an ssh login or terminal?
[09:15] <Zyclops1> and sudo is working too now :D
[09:16] <Chipzzz> :))
[09:16] <iceroot> Zyclops1: ok so the libpam.so.0 error should be fixed
[09:16] <Zyclops1> just termional.. just starteed ssh up
[09:16] <Zyclops1> service running
[09:16] <someonelese> ok rephrase.. if i do cat foo.txt .. how can i display (in a simple non-awk way) lines 1-5 , 6-10 ,11-15 etc ..i tried |head -5 / tail -5 etc but that doesn't really get me where i'm going
[09:16] <Solnse> is there a default setting somehwere for screen orientation? for some reason when I load ubuntu, my screen is upside down until I go to settings and make it "normal" orientation instead of 180 degrees.... no idea why it's stuck on 180 every time.
[09:16] <iceroot> Zyclops1: you should to some reading in /var/log/apt/term.log
[09:16] <Zyclops1> haha nice.. ssh is on
[09:17] <Chipzzz> :)
[09:17] <geirha> someonelese: sed -n 1,5p foo.txt
[09:17] <Zyclops1> yaaaaay!
[09:17] <Zyclops1> that was epic :D
[09:17] <Zyclops1> hehe
[09:17] <Zyclops1> thanks guys
[09:17] <someonelese> geirha thanks a lot
[09:17] <Zyclops1> iceroot: thanks again
[09:18] <iceroot> Zyclops1: you are welcome
[09:18] <Chipzzz> Zyclops1: I'm guessing you still have some 32 bit software that should be 64 (hence the segfault)
[09:18] <Zyclops1> and we're back in business
[09:18] <Chipzzz> ... but congrats on being up & running
[09:18] <Solnse> is there a default setting somehwere for screen orientation? for some reason when I load ubuntu, my screen is upside down until I go to settings and make it "normal" orientation instead of 180 degrees.... no idea why it's stuck on 180 every time. It just starting doing it 2 days ago after allowing ubuntu to download some updates.
[09:18] <almoxarife> Solnse: you never changed the setting to 180?
[09:18] <Solnse> nope.
[09:18] <almoxarife> Solnse: are you the only user of that mach?
[09:18] <Solnse> almoxarife: it just started happening after I allowed it to update
[09:19] <Solnse> almoxarife: yes, only me
[09:19] <almoxarife> Solnse: so you are upside down on the log screen?
[09:19] <almoxarife> Solnse: so you are upside down on the log /in/screen?
[09:19] <bal> i  try to upadte my ubuntu but there is an erro  "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kde4libs/libkrosscore4_4.7.3-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb Could not connect to netserver:4080 (67.215.65.132), connection timed out [IP: 91.189.88.40 80]"  how can i get updated
[09:20] <Solnse> almoxarife: no... login is fine.... and yes, after I log in, it's upside down... if I reset the orientation to normal, it goes normal, but if I log off and back in, it's upside down again...
[09:21] <almoxarife> Solver: when you correct it logged in, where are you doing it?
[09:21] <Solnse> almoxarife: settings>displays
[09:21] <geirha> Solnse: It should've saved that setting on logout, so possibly it fails at saving settings for whatever reason.
[09:21] <bal> is there any way to update?
[09:22] <Solnse> so what config file should I change manually?
[09:22] <geirha> Solnse: Is it upside down when you log in with the guest account?
[09:22] <almoxarife> Solnse: you got a odd video driver or a driver with its own configuration app?
[09:23] <Solnse> I don't think it's odd... integrated intel HD Graphics 3000
[09:24] <Flynsarmy> if i use acpi_call to turn off my nvidia gpu in an nvidia optimus machine, do i need to re-call it every boot or is it permanent?
[09:24] <bal> updates fails  how to resolve?
[09:24] <Chipzzz> bal: try it again... the server is up
[09:24] <Solnse> it's a new zenbook I've had about a month, but it worked perfectly until a couple days ago.... and I remember there being some updates at that time I didn't pay attention to
[09:24] <almoxarife> Solnse: but does it have a setting app? and did you make changes to it?
[09:25] <bal> last 5 day's i am trying it is not working
[09:25] <rhanthony> anyone here have experience with kvm and network bridging?
[09:25] <Solnse> almoxarife: I didn't manually change anything... I don't think it has a config app... but like I said, some kind of update might be related to this happening.
[09:25] <bal> i downloaded the packege  without pakage manager but it is also not working
[09:25] <rhanthony> I have a host with 2 vm's that I need working in like... 6 hours, and I can't for the life of me get them talking...
[09:26] <bal> and am new to ubuntu
[09:26] <Solnse> almoxarife: is there a config file that stores that default screen orientation i can look at?
[09:27] <almoxarife> Solnse: on mine there is, nvidia has it, so does yours? it's a system app, something in the systems menu
 how can i update offline?
[09:28] <dirtycookie> has anyone setup cups
[09:28] <rhanthony> Is there anyone here that is experienced with KVM/qemu network bridging?
[09:28] <Chipzzz> bal: I was just thinking that... you can download it with a browser or wget and install it manually
[09:29] <almoxarife> bal: update what? specific
[09:29] <Chipzzz> almoxarife: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kde4libs/libkrosscore4_4.7.3-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[09:29] <bal> i dowloaded  it is in my dowload folder . but fails to update
[09:30] <Chipzzz> bal: are you using a desktop or are you sshing into the machine?
[09:30] <almoxarife> Chipzzz: set my browser into a d/l, the link, what's the point?
  i try to install new ubuntu in my pc and started to update the 50 pacakges still penting
[09:31] <qiyong> how do i restart x? i changed the xorg conf file. need a restart.
[09:31] <qiyong> sudo reload kdm?
[09:31] <Chipzzz> almoxarife: the link was the answer to your question of what bal wanted to update
[09:31] <Solnse> Almoxarife: I only have settings>displays I don't see anything installed that could change any graphics settings
[09:32] <almoxarife> bal: ok, so where is the issue??? what is broke or what is not correct? what do you want to achieve?
[09:33] <almoxarife> Solnse: no idea
[09:33] <Chipzzz> bal: 50 packages still missing or just the one?
[09:33] <almoxarife> bal: is the machine with the issue the one you are using right now?
[09:33] <Solnse> almoxarife: there's no default config file that would include orientation?
[09:33] <bal> 50
[09:33] <almoxarife> Solnse: no idea
[09:34] <Solnse> almoxarife: ok thanks anyway
[09:34] <Chipzzz> bal: sounds like you have networking problems
[09:34] <almoxarife> bal: is the machine with the issue the one you are using right now?
[09:34] <bal> it is one of the pacckege
[09:34] <Vivek> I am facing issues with Enlisting a system at install time with the Ubuntu Orchestra Server.
[09:34] <Vivek> The step it fails is select and install software.
[09:35] <rhanthony> Is anyone here at all familiar with network bridging (KVM guest to host, br0) ??
[09:35] <bal> may be my firewall of my netwrok server block this i can't find out
[09:35] <bal> ya
[09:35] <almoxarife> bal: is the machine with the issue the one you are using right now?
[09:35] <bal> i am chats with the same
[09:35] <bal> in ubuntu only
[09:35] <Vivek> rhanthony: What is the issue you are facing with network bridging ?
[09:35] <geirha> rhanthony: Have you tried asking #kvm ?
 only block in some packeger
[09:36] <bal> packeges
[09:36] <almoxarife> bal: is the machine with the issue the one you are using right now?
[09:36] <bal> yes
[09:36] <Vivek> rhanthony: I am familiar with the network modes of kvm, ask away.
[09:36] <almoxarife> bal: open a terminal
[09:36] <bal> no porblem in network
[09:37] <almoxarife> bal: open a terminal
[09:37] <Anomie21> Hi, can someone help please? I'm running 11.10 but most of my applications have vanished. Even stock programs like 'System Monitor' which was available from typing that in alt+f2
[09:37] <Chipzzz> bal: follow almoxarife's instructions
[09:38] <stepnjump> GN
[09:38] <bal> ok  opened
[09:38] <bal> thank you <Chipzzz> i will do  like that
[09:38] <almoxarife> bal: type                      sudo apt-get update
[09:38] <Chipzzz> :)
[09:38] <Ben64> Hey, my laptop is stuck at 100% (out of 200%) cpu usage, but nothing is showing up on htop, top, or ps, what should I do?
[09:39] <bal> ok
[09:39] <almoxarife> bal: no errors?
[09:39] <almoxarife> bal: no errors?
[09:39] <bal> up to now no
[09:39] <vega-> Ben64: what application shows it is at 100 % ?
[09:39] <Ben64> vega-: nothing
[09:40] <almoxarife> bal: type sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:40] <vega-> Ben64: so.... how do you know it's running at 100% ? :)
[09:40] <cryptopsy> does webkit have to be build with gstreamer support for me to be able to broadcast via webcam?
[09:40] <Ben64> vega-: cpu usage is at 100%
 it is not finished
[09:40] <vega-> Ben64: yes yes... but where do you read that it actually is?
[09:40] <Chipzzz> almoxarife: i don't think he's connecting to that repo
[09:41] <almoxarife> Chipzzz: he had to, he got past 'update'
[09:41] <Ben64> vega-: my cpu graph in the panel, and htop shows both cores are at 50% each, but no processes using the cpu
[09:41] <Anomie21> Hi, can someone help please? I'm running 11.10 but most of my applications have vanished. Even stock programs like 'System Monitor' which was available from typing that in alt+f2
[09:41] <Chipzzz> almoxarife: i don't think update finished yet
Get:47 http://archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-backports/universe Translation-en [5,524 B] Get:48 http://archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-security/main Translation-en [34.5 kB] Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-security/multiverse Translation-en        Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-security/restricted Translation-en        Get:49 http://archive.ubuntu.com oneiric-security/universe Translation-en [16.0 kB] Fetched 980 kB in 1
[09:41] <bal> thre is some failes
 i tryed next cmd sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:43] <almoxarife> bal: what is the prompt right now (Y,n) ??
[09:43] <bal> i given y as yes
[09:44] <Mr_Queue> morning
[09:44] <vega-> Ben64: i once had something like that.. turned out the machine was overheating
 Y
[09:45] <bal> wating for upgrad to finsh
[09:45] <Chipzzz> bal: has it given any errors yet?
[09:45] <aaschez> I used - recordmydesktop test.ogv - command to try recordmydesktop application. It started Capturing with no errors. But I don't see test.ogv in the current directory its running from. How can I stop the capture?
[09:46] <Andyland> maybe you guys could help me with some unix stuff ;) So I'm trying to make a Windows 7 installer partition from an ISO file using the terminal. However my external HDD is also my time machine backup so I have 2 partitions on it. In diskutil I have /dev/disk0 (primary) and /dev/disk1 (external). Now my question is when I'm executing the dd command how do I specify that I want sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.iso of=/dev/disk1(PARTITION3)
[09:46] <Andyland> because I don't want my entire disk to be wiped out.
[09:46] <Andyland> * I'm running OS X Lion by the way
[09:46] <xrfang> hi, how can I remove a package from my private repository (made using reprepro)?
69 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed.
[09:47] <bal> then it is upgrading
[09:47] <Chipzzz> bal: excellent!
[09:47] <bal> thank you
[09:48] <samba35> when ever i am running apt-get i am getting error with java package which was fail ,how do i clear cache
[09:48] <almoxarife> samba35: what error?
[09:49] <samba35> : Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[09:49] <rhanthony> Is anyone here experienced with network bridging (br0 for eth1 for VM use) ??
[09:49] <almoxarife> samba35: you got a new/old ppa for apps crippling the base install
[09:49] <samba35> ok
[09:50] <Chipzzz> bal: is it finished yet?
[09:50] <samba35> so i should remove that line from sourcelist
[09:51] <almoxarife> samba35: removing the line won't remove the offending pckg/s
 Nop
[09:51] <samba35> ic then what suppose to be done to fix problem
[09:52] <almoxarife> samba35: first remove what ever the ppa added, actually, un-install all of what ever the ppa added, then remove the line, and restore what you removed
[09:52] <samba35> ok
[09:53] <bal> 94% [Connecting to netserver (67.215.65.132)] it is stuked here
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[09:54] <Chipzzz> bal: it's ok, it will time out and  move on
[09:54] <[twisti]> hi
[09:54] <[twisti]> when i log in, i get
[09:54] <[twisti]> 5 packages can be updated.
[09:54] <[twisti]> 5 updates are security updates.
[09:54] <[twisti]> but when i do sudo apt-get update upgrade, i get
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[09:54] <[twisti]> The following packages have been kept back:
[09:54] <[twisti]>   linux-headers-server linux-image-server
[09:54] <[twisti]> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[09:55] <[twisti]> whats up with that ? how do i update those packages ?
[09:55] <Chipzzz> bal: it is difficult but waiting is best
[09:55] <[twisti]> using ubuntu lts 10.4
[09:55] <bal> ok
[09:56] <Andyland> What would you guys say is the best solution for running Ubuntu in a VM. Virtualbox, VmWare, Parallels? I'm going to have a shared vm file across Lion and Windows 7 and want to share my Ubuntu develop environment :)
[09:56] <Ben64> vmware
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[09:56] <almoxarife> bal: sure the ip is 67.215.65.132??
[09:57] <Boobear> Hi
[09:57] <almoxarife> Andyland: virtualbox worked fine for me
[09:57] <Chipzzz> bal: it depends on the error... what kind of connection to the net do you use?
[09:57] <Chipzzz> (cable, dsl, wireless,...)?
[09:58] <qiyong> how do i restart x? i changed the xorg conf file. need a restart.
[09:58] <bal> sheard lease line of 2mbps
[09:58] <rhanthony> I really need help figuring out why a VM won't see a network over a bridge (br0)... is there anyone here that might be able to take a look and help me find what's going wrong here?
[09:58] <txomon> hi, I have a few questions, 1st, which are the packages for running a little ubuntu desktop without anything else than the desktop? I mean obviously over a minimal system install. I want gnome but not with all those things it has
[09:58] <[twisti]> wtf, how can nobody know how to update packages under ubuntu in an ubuntu channel ?
[09:58] <[twisti]> thats ridiculous
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[09:58] <bal> as i am in  insitution
[09:58] <Chipzzz> bal: quite fast, I'm surprised you're having this problem
[09:58] <txomon> [deXter], sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:58] <txomon> uops
[09:58] <ManDay> How do I get multitouch support in X.org?
[09:58] <txomon> [twisti], sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:59] <Andyland> almoxarife: A great former OSE/GPL app
[09:59] <bal> think the server proxiy may be blocks some were?
[09:59] <Chipzzz> bal: Ah... maybe the server is heavily loaded and causing these problems
[09:59] <bal> or some packages
[09:59] <[twisti]> i see
[09:59] <[twisti]> thanks
[09:59] <rhanthony> twisti: the warning about pending updates happens when i log into my machine as well, I noticed some time ago, it got written as part of a static motd file... pretty much, I just run apt-get and update when I log in, and I ignore the warning now.  No one's been able to tell me why that happens either.  Sorry.
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[10:00] <almoxarife> bal: using a proxy?
[10:00] <bal> no
[10:00] <[twisti]> rhanthony: read txomon's answer, that worked for me
[10:00] <Andyland> almoxarife: written in node :)
[10:00] <Chipzzz> bal: I doubt that but it may be possible... I think it is more likely that it has more to do with the load on the server
[10:00] <bal> gate way server
[10:00] <almoxarife> bal: terminal finished?
[10:00] <txomon> rhanthony,  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:00] <rhanthony> doesn't work for me though, as I still get prompted when I log in that I have 3 pending updates, even though I dont.
[10:00] <bal> no still stuked
[10:00] <Chipzzz> bal: excellent... is it a school?
[10:00] <Anomie21> Hi, can someone help please? I'm running 11.10 but most of my applications have vanished. Even stock programs like 'System Monitor' which was available from typing that in alt+f2
[10:00] <dyd> guys, how can i save on a text file the list of files of a folder?
[10:01] <Mr_Queue> dyd: with redirection
[10:01] <bal> no charitable institiution
[10:01] <rhanthony> but thats not a problem I'm worried about right now.   I seriously need help with a network bridging issue... I'm dyin over here on this...
[10:01] <rhanthony> I can't figure out why a VM won't talk out to the network through a bridge setup on the host.
[10:01] <Mr_Queue> dyd: ls -al /path/to/the/dir/ >> list.of.dir.txt
[10:01] <Chipzzz> bal: very nice... charities are very rewarding places to work :)
[10:01] <idefix> Do what you believe in and believe in what you do. All else is a waste of energy and time. Nisargadatta
http://www.santhigiriashram.org/
[10:02] <txomon> Anomie21, can your system hold that version of ubuntu?
[10:02] <dyd> Mr_Queue, thanks
[10:02] <Anomie21> txomon: It was working fine a few weeks ago
[10:02] <rhanthony> it was working FINE a few hours ago... and then I had to renumber IP's for 2 VM's and the Host (just changing 1 digit), and it should still work, but it doesn't...
[10:02] <bal> ya
[10:02] <Vivek> Who is working in shanti giri ashram ?
[10:02] <Mr_Queue> dyd: no problem...
[10:03] <rhanthony> Is no one here experienced with network bridging, or kvm/qemu ??
[10:03] <Mr_Queue> >> 2 of them is a good habit to form..
[10:03] <txomon> Anomie21, make in a shell "top" command, and see if something is eating too much processing
[10:03] <Vivek> It is a Marthoma Ashram right ?
[10:03] <dyd> Mr_Queue, can i just record in the file the file names, no other info needed
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[10:03] <Mr_Queue> dyd: sure
[10:03] <bal> pls check the link
[10:03] <dyd> Mr_Queue, with extension or not, is the same
[10:03] <Mr_Queue> dyd: ls /path/to/the/dir/ >> list.of.dir.txt
[10:03] <Chipzzz> bal: thank you for the link. It looks like a very spiritual place & I will read up on it in detail when I have more time.
[10:03] <Mr_Queue> actually..
[10:03] <Anomie21> txomon: don't know what you mean. I can't even access terminal anymore
[10:03] <Mr_Queue> ls -C -1
[10:04] <txomon> dyd, "find /path/to/file >> list.of.files.recursive.txt"
 wellcome  chippsss
[10:04] <Vivek> bal: ok.
[10:04] <bal>  <Chipzzz> we need to comback to our problm
[10:04] <Mr_Queue> dyd: how do you need them?
[10:04] <txomon> Anomie21, C-A-F1
[10:04] <Anomie21> txomon: When I try and access via alt+f2 it just brings up three gears when I search for 'terminal'
[10:04] <bal> it is still stuked
[10:05] <Chipzzz> bal: it is still stuck in the same place?
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[10:05] <bal> can i re start  the same cmd
[10:05] <almoxarife> bal: sure the ip is 67.215.65.132??
[10:05] <dyd> Mr_Queue, a bare list, maybe ordered by name
[10:05] <almoxarife> bal: not yet
[10:05] <txomon> dyd, did you try find /path/ ?
[10:05] <dyd> Mr_Queue, txomon, the ls command still shows all info (size and stuffs), the find command works but won't make them ordered
[10:05] <Mr_Queue> dyd: you can do it nearly anyway you need.
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[10:06] <Mr_Queue> dyd: so..
[10:06] <Chipzzz> bal: hmmm... I would like to avoid that but it can be done
[10:06] <txomon> dyd, have them piped to a sort command
[10:06] <almoxarife> bal: type this in terminal      sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[10:06] <dyd> txomon: dunno how
[10:06] <txomon> you can also specify recursivity
[10:06] <txomon> in the find commando
[10:06] <txomon> command*
[10:06] <txomon> check man find
[10:06] <Mr_Queue> dyd: find /path/to/dir/ | sort >> output.txt
[10:06] <FloodBot1> txomon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:07] <almoxarife> Chipzzz: do a whois on that ip
[10:07] <dyd> txomon, i don't need it now
[10:07] <Mr_Queue> dyd: lots of ways to play with text.
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[10:07] <Chipzzz> almoxarife: he's connected to a 2mb network with 100 terminals on it... I think the downloads are just timing out
[10:07] <Anomie21> txomon: And how to I exit this screen? Just had to button bash to get out of there
[10:07] <txomon> bal, use sudo
[10:08] <Mr_Queue> bal: need sudo
[10:08] <Madkiss> hi there
[10:08] <dyd> Mr_Queue, txomon, ok i did it! thank you
[10:08] <Mr_Queue> Anomie21: ctrl+alt and then d
[10:08] <Madkiss> trying to start libvirt-bin, I see this: Failed to create mDNS client: Daemon isn't running
[10:08] <bal> ok
[10:08] <Mr_Queue> dyd: np
[10:08] <Chipzzz> almoxarife: sorry I didn't explain that right... it's a server with 100 terminals connected to a 2mb link to the service provider
[10:09] <bal> thank you <Mr_Queue><txomon>
[10:09] <txomon> Anomie21, C-A-F1 first shell, C-A-F[1-6] normal ones, C-A-F7 is the graphic one
[10:09] <txomon> Mr_Queue, he is not in screen
[10:09] <almoxarife> bal: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit                  <-- copy paste to terminal and run it
[10:09] <Mr_Queue> bal: dyd no problem.. Free shells to play on if you pm me.
[10:09] <bal> bsnl Inida
[10:09] <Anomie21> txomon: Everyone except for Ctrl-Alt-F7 works
[10:09] <Madkiss> ah. Looks like In need to install avahi-daemon.
[10:09] <almoxarife> Mr_Queue: you spaming?
[10:10] <Mr_Queue> almoxarife: Nope, fixing screen issues. You?
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[10:10] <Mr_Queue> txomon: I read how to exit screen.
[10:10] <txomon> Anomie21, as you said, it is frozen!, dont hope it will be responding that fast
[10:10] <txomon> Mr_Queue, he meant from single-mode shell screen
[10:10] <Mr_Queue> txomon: ah.
[10:10] <txomon> xD
[10:10] <almoxarife> Free shells to play on if you pm me??? spam?
[10:11] <txomon> Anomie21, did you run top ?
[10:11] <almoxarife> bal: got a link as a response?
[10:11] <Mr_Queue> almoxarife: he was having a time listing dir's into a redirect.. Can you think of a better place to figure that out?
[10:11] <gogeta> almoxarife: SPAM!!
[10:11] <idefix> !lawl
[10:12] <almoxarife> bal: got a link as a response?
[10:12] <txomon> Mr_Queue, do you know which are the very basic paquets to run a gnome desktop?
[10:12] <Anomie21> txomon: yep, nothing unusual
[10:12] <txomon> Mr_Queue, i don't want to use the ubuntu-desktop one
[10:13] <Chipzzz> almoxarife: i see what you mean
[10:13] <txomon> Anomie21, are you using any new sort of interface, gnome-shell 4 example?
[10:13] <almoxarife> Chipzzz: does that make sense?
[10:13] <rf5> hello! im trying to access the ssh localhost but im getting this error message:  ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[10:13] <Mr_Queue> txomon: couple ways to do that.
[10:13] <gogeta> txomon: point and click lol
[10:13] <almoxarife> bal: got a link as a response?
[10:14] <Anomie21> txomon: I tried to follow a guide to move the unity sidebar but couldnt get it to work, the pc worked fine for weeks after that though
[10:14] <Chipzzz> almoxarife: yes... it's opendns
[10:15] <almoxarife> Chipzzz: and the source of the packages?
[10:16] <dominikg_1> hi, i want to install chromium-browser from ppa:chromium-daily/beta (i added it via add-apt-repository and did apt-get update) i had chromium-broswer installed from universe already so i did an apt-get remove chromium browser and then tried to apt-get install it.. but i got version 14 again instead of version 16 (w
[10:16] <txomon> gogeta, are you spamming?
[10:16] <txomon> Anomie21, check the files you modified, and try to leave them as they were
[10:16] <Chipzzz> almoxaritfe: is that the source or the dns connection?
[10:17] <txomon> Mr_Queue, just want to know the packets
[10:17] <dominikg_1> did i miss something? same problem for firefox 9 and the mozillateam ppa
[10:18] <Mr_Queue> txomon: gnome-shell will pull in the basics.
[10:18] <bal> sorry power failer
[10:18] <Anomie21> txomon: Is there no other way around this? I modified them weeks ago, I have no idea which files I modified
[10:18] <almoxarife> dominikg_1: what is the lastest version on the ppa?
[10:18] <txomon> Mr_Queue, ok, so I have the problem with the nvidia drivers... any idea on how to install the restricted ones?
[10:18] <txomon> from cl of course
[10:19] <txomon> Anomie21, did you do that as the user you actually are?
[10:19] <dominikg_1> 16.0.912.63~r113337-0ubuntu1~ucd~beta1~natty  according to https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta ( i have ubuntu 11.04)
[10:19] <Mr_Queue> txomon: nvidia isn't basic gnome.
[10:19] <Anomie21> txomon: I dont it as root through the terminal IIRC
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[10:19] <_Fury> Hello, did anyone use nvidia 3d vision with a quadro card and ubuntu? Can i use the emitter in my screen or do i need a dedicated one?
[10:19] <txomon> Anomie21, look into history
[10:19] <bal> the system gone to shutdown due to powe r failer
[10:19] <Mr_Queue> txomon: you need two packages then... gnome-shell and ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:20] <txomon> Mr_Queue, will try with it
[10:20] <Anomie21> txomon: It's fine I will just reinstall, faster.
[10:20] <txomon> Anomie21, dont forget to split
[10:20] <almoxarife> dominikg_1: open a terminal
[10:20] <txomon> into different partitions, one for /home and another for /
[10:20] <txomon> Anomie21, is that problem only with your user?
[10:21] <almoxarife> dominikg_1: redo steps, something is not right
[10:21] <txomon> Mr_Queue, and gdm ?
[10:21] <Anomie21> txomon: just tried the guest user and same problem
[10:22] <lala> hi everyone!
[10:22] <Mr_Queue> txomon: it's a package too.
[10:22] <txomon> Anomie21, go #gnome for support if you dont want to reinstall
[10:22] <Chipzzz> bal:  try "sudo apt-get -d upgrade"
[10:22] <txomon> Mr_Queue, but is it included in gnome-shell ?
[10:23] <Mr_Queue> txomon: let us know.
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[10:23] <dominikg_1> almoxarife: do you want me to pastebin the console output? i already tried it 2 times and it didn't work
[10:23] <lighta> hey guys I have a route probleme can someone help me with that ? I don't understand how they come back...
[10:24] <almoxarife> dominikg_1: sure
[10:24] <dyd> guys anyone has experience with unetbootin?
[10:24] <txomon> Mr_Queue, apt-cache depends gnome-shell | grep gdm doesnt show there, so suppose it doesnt
[10:24] <Chipzzz> bal: ok... do that first
[10:24] <dyd> when i try to burn an iso on my usb it just does it in 2 seconds, but it's obvious that it's not copying the iso (4gb) to the usb
[10:25] <dyd> using unetbootin
[10:25] <rf5> hello! im trying to access the ssh localhost but im getting this error message:  ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
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[10:25] <Mr_Queue> txomon: then add the package gdm to your list.
[10:25] <lighta> rf5, are you tryin to connect via root ? does the pass/username fine ?
[10:26] <Mr_Queue> txomon: it's a real package, gnome-shell is the very basics of gnome.
[10:26] <rf5> yes .. its not even asking me for the password, its denying the access
[10:26] <venkatmangudi> Anyone on Xubuntu? Have a very strange problem. The last couple of days, I have a dark (black( band on my screen
[10:26] <venkatmangudi> it's like someone has pasted a black tape on my screen. some notifications get displayed there, otherwise, nothing.
[10:26] <Chipzzz> bal: that's what I thought. try "sudo sudo apt-get -d upgrade"
[10:26] <xhack> rf5 does ssh ::1 give you the same thing?
[10:26] <txomon> Mr_Queue, it is really gnome 3
[10:26] <bal> now it is reading
[10:27] <txomon> not the very basics thus
[10:27] <rf5> no xhack
[10:27] <rf5> it stabilish
[10:27] <venkatmangudi> anyone?
[10:27] <txomon> venkatmangudi, join #xubuntu
now it is working
[10:28] <Chipzzz> bal: i think you should run "sudo apt-get -d upgrade" as many times as is necessary to download all the packages...
[10:28] <Mr_Queue> txomon: txomon http://pastebin.com/WF8NK0Fe
[10:28] <rf5> it worked when i did that xhack
[10:28] <Chipzzz> bal: and then when you have them all, run "sudo apt-get upgrade" without the -d and it will install them
[10:28] <xhack> yeah i figured it would
[10:28] <xhack> ::1 is the ipv6 loopback
[10:29] <dominikg_1> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/793607/
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[10:29] <bal> it now stuked the same
[10:29] <Mr_Queue> txomon: then you need gnome-core
[10:29] <txomon> Mr_Queue, yep, but it is the gnome3 (no problem about it for me)
[10:29] <leshaste> how can I see which version of ubuntu has okular 0.13.x ?
[10:29] <dominikg_1> damn, looks like almoxarive disconnected, can anyone else help me?
[10:30] <Chipzzz> bal: do you have a system administrator managing the server?
[10:30] <venkatmangudi> never mind... fixed it
[10:30] <venkatmangudi> was an extra cairo dock
[10:30] <txomon> leshaste, ?
[10:30] <dominikg_1> (i want to install chromium-browser beta via ppa in ubuntu 11.04)
[10:31] <txomon> dominikg_1, add the ppa
[10:31] <venkatmangudi> so cairo dock is gone for a toss now
[10:31] <leshaste> txomon, I would like to know which version of ubuntu has  okular 0.13.x
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[10:31] <txomon> leshaste, but inverse search?
[10:31] <Chipzzz> bal: "Y"
[10:32] <dominikg_1> txomom, i did add-apt-repository <ppa> (see pastebin above for its output)
[10:32] <bal>  i give y
[10:32] <dyd> how can i make a bootable usb from an iso in ubuntu? unetbootin not working
[10:32] <bal> but it sttuke the same palce  last time
[10:32] <txomon> dominikg_1, sudo apt-get update
[10:32] <leshaste> txomon, that won't help
[10:32] <txomon> you have to update the package list
[10:32] <txomon> leshaste, what do you need with okular?
[10:33] <bal> can i get the last cmd which is started to work  my system gone to shutdown
[10:33] <Chipzzz> bal: is there a system administrator who manages the server?
[10:33] <leshaste> I need version 0.13.x
[10:33] <dominikg_1> i also did that (again see pastebin, i also added apt-cache show chromium-browser there)
[10:33] <bal> ya '
[10:33] <bal>  he is not here today
[10:33] <txomon> leshaste, so download it from okular.kde.org
[10:33] <bal> and not aware of linux to
[10:34] <biginttosh> iceroot, does ubuntu tracks usage details
[10:34] <txomon> dominikg_1, that is not the one you are looking for I think
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[10:34] <bal> nwo it is stoped with erro
[10:34] <biginttosh> iceroot, like deletion/creation of files etc remotely synced to ubuntu server >
[10:35] <Chipzzz> bal: the problem looks like it has less to do with linux than with the server configuration... i would ask him to take a look at what happens when you try to update
[10:35] <dominikg_1> yes, it's not the one i'm looking for.. i want the chromium-browser package from the ppa, the one thats shown in my pastebin is version 14 and comes from universe i guess....
[10:36] <bal> ok thank  you when he com i may try
[10:36] <Chipzzz> bal: in the meanwhile, you can try to download what you need by entering "sudo apt-get -d upgrade" until you have all the necessary packages...
[10:37] <rf5> Hello. Im trying to ssh localhost but im getting this error: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host. I suspect is something in the sshd_config which is in here http://paste.ubuntu.com/793613/. Can anyone helpme?
 thank you
[10:37] <Chipzzz> bal: and if you can eventually get them all then enter "sudo apt-get upgrade" without the -d and it will install your downloaded packages...
[10:37] <txomon> dominikg_1, https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta
[10:37] <rf5> Chipzzz: my man!
[10:38] <Chipzzz> bal: the danger in doing this is than some of your packages may be corrupted by having been interrupted during download
[10:38] <Chipzzz> rf5: how ya' doin'?
[10:38] <rf5> geting crazy.. got another problem now.
[10:38] <Chipzzz> rf5: that's what life is... one problem after another ;)
[10:39] <rf5> ya !
[10:39] <rf5> Hello. Im trying to ssh localhost but im getting this error: ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host. I suspect is something in the sshd_config which is in here http://paste.ubuntu.com/793613/. Can anyone helpme?
[10:39] <rf5> thats my issue this time.
 ya ,  i am trying to install one webserver in this system to work  like wamp in windows  lamp or xamp
[10:40] <txomon> dominikg_1, if you look at your output, you have 2 packages there
[10:40] <bal> but whe i chathre i did get  lamp or xamp so they told me to updat
[10:40] <bal> now i stuke here :)
[10:40] <bal> :(
[10:42] <txomon> dominikg_1, leshaste , im going afk for a while
 any way thank you for helpig me up to now
[10:42] <Chipzzz> bal: hang in there... i'll be right with you
[10:42] <txomon> bal, will come here later in 25 mins or so, if you are still here will help you
[10:44] <dominikg_2> sorry, my connection was lost (webchat), i did not get any messages after my last chat line.
 ya , but  i think it  may be the problem for server firewall which not alow the specific packege . i told to admin and he only rich here next day's
[10:45] <txomon> Mr_Queue, worked: gdm gnome-shell ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:45] <almoxarife> bal: what package?
[10:46] <bal> any wa thank you <chipzz> <txomon> <almoxarife > and whole community of ubuntu
[10:46] <Chipzzz> rf5: what makes you think it isn't an authentication problem?
[10:46] <plm> Hi all
[10:46] <plm> people, what is diference between chromium and chrome?
[10:46] <rf5> i dont know, just a guess, something related to pam
[10:46] <almoxarife> bal: what package?
[10:46] <plm> I have ubuntu 10.4 I in apt I find just chromium..
[10:46] <crizzy> chromium is full open source build
[10:46] <crizzy> chrome has some google extras
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[10:47] <plm> crizzy: is good like as chrome?
[10:47] <crizzy> plm: yes, it's the same browser
[10:47] <plm> crizzy: good :-)
[10:47] <crizzy> plm: except it doesn't send usage statistics to google, include built-in flash or pdf reader
[10:47] <theadmin> plm: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
[10:47] <bal> it may content word music so it is locked by fire wall
[10:47] <crizzy> not sure about pdf reader though. maybe it has open source replacement for foxit already
[10:47] <bal> can i skip this packege?
[10:47] <crizzy> but those are more or less the only differences
[10:47] <plm> theadmin: ohhh thanks
[10:47] <plm> crizzy: right
[10:48] <Chipzzz> rf5: do you have a way of getting into the machine now?
[10:48] <rf5> ya i am on it
[10:48] <llutz> rf5: "sudo sshd -t"   any output?
[10:48] <rf5> logged
[10:49] <Chipzzz> rf5: so the terminal doesn't give you segfaults any more?
[10:49] <rf5> no
[10:49] <rf5> i manage to update it
[10:49] <Chipzzz> :)
[10:49] <rf5> called a friend that helped me
[10:49] <Chipzzz> :))
[10:50] <Mr_Queue> txomon: Nice.
[10:50] <rf5> Jan  5 22:18:01 apollo CRON[12086]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user root by (uid=0)
[10:50] <llutz> rf5: thats from cron "pam_unix(cron:session)"
[10:51] <Chipzzz> :))
[10:51] <rf5> Jan  5 22:18:04 apollo sshd[12110]: error: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: Address already in use.
[10:51] <rf5> what about this
[10:51] <llutz> rf5: sudo lsof -i :22
[10:51] <michalchik> Hello
[10:52] <michalchik> I now have a duel boot machine
[10:52] <rf5> what should it say in it llutz?
[10:53] <llutz> rf5: whats the output?
[10:53] <Chipzzz> bal: you can skip any you like... just keep downloading until you have all the packages you want before trying to install them
[10:53] <michalchik> Does anyone know why I can't see the files like mp3's that I saved under windows?
[10:53] <plm> how I change in ubuntu system to open web pages by default in chromium and not in firefox? for example when I click in that link that theadmin sent me, firefox open it.. and I already has chromium opened
[10:53] <michalchik> Even though I can se the directory structure?
[10:53] <Kartagis> can I get help please? instead, I'm being ignored
[10:53] <Kartagis> sometimes I take screenshots and save. however if the destination directory has a file of the same name and I say to replace, I get http://people.sabanciuniv.edu/mtozses/error.png . how come?
[10:54] <theadmin> plm: Hm, search for "Preferred applications" or "Default applications" or something like that, use that tool
[10:54] <mapreri> Hi everyone :) I need a command that allow me to know the audio server in use. someone can help me?
[10:54] <llutz> !pm | rf5
[10:54] <llutz> rf5: sudo service ssh restart
[10:55] <llutz> rf5:any ouput from  "sudo sshd -t"?
[10:55] <atvr> plm, tchek for setting in chromium and there is a button that says make chromium the default browser
[10:55] <Mechdave> rf5, usually you bind ssh to a 192.168 address
[10:55] <rf5> im root
[10:55] <rf5> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
 <chipzzz >see you all  thank you
[10:55] <llutz> rf5:any ouput from  "/usr/sbinsshd -t"?
[10:55] <purus> how to install openoffice ubuntu 11.04 any one help
[10:55] <llutz> rf5:any ouput from  "/usr/sbin/sshd -t"?
[10:56] <rf5> nothing
[10:56] <Mechdave> rf5, Have a look at this --> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch-sec-services.en.html
[10:56] <llutz> Mechdave: usually sshd binds to ALL ifaces/IPs
[10:56] <theadmin> purus: Why? We have LibreOffice which has all the same stuff as OpenOffice and moar
[10:56] <Chipzzz> take care, bal, it was nice to meet you
[10:56] <michalchik> Good night all.
[10:56] <atvr> plm, open chromium>in the top right click on the tool icon>preferences>then press the make this browser default
[10:57] <purus> ok ,but i wanted install open office help me
[10:57] <rf5> its weird..
[10:57] <theadmin> purus: You don't need that... But oh well, just get it from their site and install it. Remove LibreOffice first though (they share the same filenames so both can't be installed at the same time)
[10:58] <Mechdave> llutz, yeah? I have always bound it to the one interface with a non standard port... call me paranoid :)
[10:58] <matematiq> Прив
[10:58] <llutz> Mechdave: do whatever you like
[10:58] <matematiq> Hello
[10:58] <theadmin> !ru | matematiq
[10:58] <rf5> llutz:  what should i do?
[10:58] <purus> k thanks
[10:58] <matematiq> #ubuntu-ru
[10:59] <matematiq> ?
[10:59] <purus> how to install power iso ubuntu 11.04
[10:59] <mapreri> no one can help me? I need a command that allow me to know the audio server in use.
[10:59] <rf5> its really annoyin
[11:00] <theadmin> purus: LOLWUT. Sorry, you do NOT install Windows software in Linux.
[11:00] <rf5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/793636/ thats on my auth.log
[11:01] <matematiq> Help me
[11:01] <theadmin> matematiq: Just ask your question
[11:01] <llutz> rf5: "ls -l /var/run/sshd.pid"  "ls -ld /var/run/sshd"
[11:01] <matematiq> #ubuntu
[11:01] <rf5> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6 2012-01-05 22:18 /var/run/sshd.pid
[11:01] <purus> how to cd burning ubuntu 11.04
[11:01] <theadmin> purus: Ubuntu comes with Brasero. Use that.
[11:01] <rf5> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 40 2011-10-25 13:19 /var/run/sshd
[11:02] <matematiq> #ubuntu-ru
[11:02] <theadmin> matematiq: You want: /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:02] <llutz> rf5: seem to be right, anything in /etc/host.allow (host.deny)?
[11:03] <llutz> hosts*
[11:03] <mapreri> how to know the audio server in use?
[11:03] <Chipzzz> rf5: is there anything in the logs when you try to ssh in?
[11:04] <rf5> thats it..
[11:04] <rf5> http://paste.ubuntu.com/793636/ thats on my auth.log
[11:04] <llutz> rf5: nothing ssh-related
[11:05] <Northsys> Hi, how can I create an account only for a service ? I mean...users won't be able to login to that account but will be used to send mails from it
[11:05] <Northsys> Like creating the account noreply
[11:05] <Chipzzz> rf5: you know you have 3 cron jobs that run once /minute?
[11:05] <rf5> ya
[11:05] <Chipzzz> sheesh!
[11:06] <rf5> man
[11:06] <rf5> im gonna sleep
[11:06] <rf5> this is driving me crazy
[11:06] <Chipzzz> yeah, me too...
[11:07] <Chipzzz> best wishes & i hope you get that solved, but I'm exhausted & off to bed
[11:07] <purus> how to  nrg file burn ubuntu11.04
[11:07] <txomon> bal, im here now
[11:07] <Chipzzz> txomon: bal's gone
[11:07] <zabomber> hi. any idea why ajaxterm isn't working in ubuntu 11.10?
[11:08] <zabomber> it broke after my upgrade
[11:08] <txomon> fuu
[11:08] <theadmin> Northsys: Create an account with "adduser --system username"
[11:08] <Northsys> thanks.
[11:08] <ServerSage> purus: Take a look at nrg2iso.
[11:08] <txomon> Mr_Queue, gnome-terminal must be included by hand too... Should we make a list?
[11:09] <theadmin> Northsys: Might want to also lock the password after creating the account (with "usermod -L username") depending on whether you need to be able to access it with a password or not
[11:09] <vi390> hi , i want to run a ubuntu unity with a dell touchscreen (identifying as LG Display LGD-MultiTouch) , any idea how i can get it to work? it reacts somehow when i use the evdev calibrator. I read somewhere that the drivers should be in unity. But actually they where talking about HAL, and afaik HAL is no longer existing. Well would appreciate any idea someone has about this subject
[11:09] <Northsys> btw, is there any log for "mail" command? I just don't get any mail and I want to see if there's any error.
[11:10] <Northsys> oh
[11:10] <Northsys> I will add that option too theadmin, thank you very much.
[11:11] <Mr_Queue> txomon: No, because you're just building gnome-desktop by hand.
[11:11] <Mr_Queue> txomon: Either you need to do some more reading, or just install the main metapackage which grabs it all for you.
[11:11] <txomon> Mr_Queue, hummm but gnome desktop would give me the very basics?
[11:11] <Mr_Queue> No
[11:11] <theadmin> Why would anyone need to build a DE by hand?
[11:11] <DJango_Novice> hi there
[11:11] <txomon> ok, so... Gnome? with no libreoffice, nor mozilla?
[11:12] <Mr_Queue> theadmin: Lots of reasons.
[11:12] <theadmin> Mr_Queue: What's the current one?
[11:12] <Mr_Queue> Current what?
[11:12] <DJango_Novice> im new to ubuntu and need to install build fastcgi server
[11:12] <txomon> theadmin, gnome-shell?
[11:12] <DJango_Novice> can any one help please??
[11:12] <theadmin> txomon: What exactly are you trying to acheive?
[11:13] <ServerSage> I'd like to hear one or two of these "lots of reasons" to build a DE by hand.
[11:13] <ServerSage> And if I hear speed I may vomit.
[11:13] <Mr_Queue> ServerSage: Nope
[11:13] <txomon> theadmin, a gnome-shell with the minimals to work, with no thunderbird, nor mozilla (I use chromium), etc.
[11:13] <Ben64> you can have gnome without firefox ...
[11:14] <theadmin> txomon: Err, okay, sudo tasksel remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install gnome-shell chromium blah blah blah
[11:14] <txomon> ServerSage, not installing unneeded stuff
[11:14] <tprime>  Hello channel. I'm trying to set up a bridged network (0) in addition to a nat-ed one(1) for a freebsd guest under ubunut 11.10/kvm, and am probably missing something really stupid. The bridge itself is working, the guest does receive a DHCP address from the network DHCP server, and it can ping it's intranet subnet (which seem to go via (0)) and the internet (via (1)), but neither the host, nor outside machines can access the guest on the DCHP
[11:14] <tprime>  ass
 igned ip. Ping from host to guest just hangs. I have disabled netfilter for bridges on the host, the guest does not have a firewall, I've toyed with promiscuous mode and (simple) routes to no avail. Any ideas?
[11:14] <dr_willis> de=wm+fm ;)
[11:14] <FloodBot1> tprime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:14] <Mr_Queue> ServerSage: Because some don't need tomboy, or any of the other suite pulled in with the gnome-desktop meta package..
[11:14] <Ben64> then just install gnome without using the meta package?
[11:14] <ServerSage> Then just install gnome.
[11:14] <txomon> theadmin, did a command line install
[11:14] <theadmin> txomon: Well just install Xorg and gnome-shell then
[11:14] <Ben64> if you do "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" then yeah, it will install a lot
[11:15] <txomon> then gnome-shell gdm ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:15] <theadmin> txomon: It won't pull Firefox, LibreOffice etc, that's in "ubuntu-desktop"
[11:15] <theadmin> txomon: gdm no longer is in use, use "lightdm" instead
[11:15] <Mr_Queue> ServerSage: If you know how to run something other than 'current' Ubuntu you probably don't want any meta packages around because when you break one of the depends and your package manager of choice decides to clean up the brokens, you're up the creek..
[11:16] <makara> libre office standard toolbar won't go away? Even when I alt-tab back to a document it pops up again
[11:16] <txomon> theadmin, the problem is that I with gnome-shell , for example gnome-terminal is not installed
[11:16] <Mr_Queue> But if you don't know any better and it would seem like a lot don't.. Just stick with the bag lunch provided free of cost and call it a day.
[11:16] <Northsys> I just used the next :  mail -s "Hello world" my@email.com /root/testmail
[11:16] <Northsys> test mail contains a text
[11:16] <makara> Django_Novice: not a good channel for this sort of thing
[11:16] <Northsys> I skiped the text enter step with ctrl d
[11:17] <Northsys> but I still don't getting any mail
[11:17] <theadmin> txomon: Ok, hm, I think there's a package called "gnome"
[11:17] <theadmin> !info gnome
[11:17] <Ben64> txomon: sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal
[11:17] <theadmin> txomon: That. sudo apt-get install gnome
[11:17] <DJango_Novice> makara: where shall i go for the support thn
[11:17] <ServerSage> Mr_Queue: I think my point is more that if you don't know how to install gnome along with whatever else you *need*, then you should probably stick with meta packages.
[11:17] <Northsys> and I'm sure I can send because I have a cpanel installed and it's sending mails
[11:17] <Mr_Queue> ServerSage: Works for me..
[11:17] <DJango_Novice> since i jus want to install flup and dont really know how to dod that
[11:17] <txomon> Ben64, I know, the idea was to have the basics in one command, instead of discovering needs while I am working
[11:17] <theadmin> txomon: Does not pull Ubuntu stuff, but does pull standard GNOME things like terminal nautilus gksu etc
[11:17] <txomon> ahhm oki
[11:18] <k6b> O.o
[11:18] <Mr_Queue> yer
[11:18] <xhack> O.o
[11:18] <k6b> o.O
[11:18] <theadmin> Stop that.
[11:19] <k6b> O.O
[11:19] <xhack> o.O
[11:19] <txomon> theadmin, but it puts evince, epiphany, evolution
[11:19] <bazhang> k6b, ubuntu support question?
[11:19] <k6b> nah
[11:19] <Mr_Queue> bazhang: doubt it..
[11:19] <ServerSage> k6b: Just like to be annoying?
[11:19] <theadmin> txomon: Um yeah... gnome stuff... lol Ubuntu has one hell of messy dependencies >.<
[11:19] <k6b> am I?
[11:19] <bazhang> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please k6b
[11:19] <txomon> it does
[11:19] <Mr_Queue> k6b: You shut your mouth when you're talking to me.
[11:20] <k6b> lulz
[11:20] <jussi> Mr_Queue: no need for that
[11:20] <ServerSage> k6b: Don't look at me in that tone of voice.
[11:20] <bazhang> Mr_Queue, thats uncalled for
[11:20] <makara> DJango_Novice: find a lighttp channel, or django
[11:20] <theadmin> txomon: lol here I do "pacman -S gnome" and get the standard gnome setup without all the mess, the rest is in "gnome-extra", I have no idea why Ubuntu won't do something like that
[11:20] <k6b> friendly bunch here!
[11:20] <ServerSage> Hehe
[11:20] <Mr_Queue> Just a lot of parents that's all..
[11:20] <bazhang> k6b, lets move this to the chat channel please
[11:20] <jussi> k6b: friendly enough when you keep ontopic. as mentioned, probably better to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:20] <xhack> i have a support question. where's the meta-package to apt-get replace ubuntu with slackware?
[11:21] <txomon> theadmin, when I do apt-get install gnome, it wants to download 205 MB and 424 packets
[11:21] <k6b> lol
[11:21] <bazhang> xhack, there is none.
[11:21] <theadmin> txomon: That is a ton
[11:21] <ServerSage> xhack: THanks for the laugh.  ;)
[11:21] <k6b> apt-get uninstal all-the-things
[11:21] <theadmin> txomon: Hmm let me search
[11:21] <xhack> lolz
[11:21] <Northsys> uninstall*
[11:21] <Mr_Queue> pound it...
[11:21] <TA5K> How can I disable my dedicated NVidia card? I tried ironhide, but it seams to have no effect
[11:21] <k6b> thx Northsys
[11:22] <almoxarife> TA5K: take it out?
[11:22] <theadmin> txomon: Found it! sudo apt-get install gnome-core
[11:22] <Northsys> Any idea about why my mail (sent with mail -s ...) is not reaching on my mailbox ?
[11:23] <Northsys> I don't get any errors
[11:23] <Northsys> Using the command.
[11:23] <txomon> Mr_Queue, we found the solution gnome-core as you said
[11:23] <k6b> Northsys: what does maillog say?
[11:23] <ServerSage> Northsys: What does the log say?
[11:23] <k6b> I WIN!
[11:23] <TA5K> almoxarife: and build it in again, if I need 3D power, lol *g
[11:23] <ServerSage> Doh!
[11:24] <is_null> hi all, i cannot see libreoffice windows, and they don't appear in the dock ... i can see the process: /bin/sh /usr/bin/libreoffice --calc /home/jpic/Downloads/Collection.ods
[11:24] <Northsys> nothing. I see only cpanel's mails
[11:24] <is_null> but there is no way i can see the window !
[11:24] <Northsys> I will try to send again
[11:24] <TA5K> It's just using too much battery power
[11:24] <k6b> hrm Northsys it should be hitting the mail logs
[11:24] <k6b> cpanel though, that means exim
[11:24] <Northsys> nothing
[11:25] <almoxarife> TA5K: ok, how about at the bios? i know i can pick between onboard or card?
[11:25] <Mr_Queue> k6b: to answer your question....
[11:25] <Mr_Queue> list=$(dpkg --get-selections); for i in $list; do dpkg --purge $list; done
[11:25] <Northsys> I added a text at the end of /var/log/maillog
[11:25] <k6b> Mr_Queue: very nice
[11:25] <Northsys> then sent my mail
[11:25] <TA5K> almoxarife: lspci shows me both
[11:25] <Northsys> I checked the log again and the last line is my text
[11:25] <ServerSage> Mr_Queue: Some unknowing person will run that in 3..2..1...
[11:25] <xhack> im running that rught now Mr_Queue
[11:25] <k6b> lol
[11:25] <ServerSage> That was about as on-cue as it gets.
[11:26] <k6b> "connection to ubuntushells.com closed: Broken pipe"
[11:26] <k6b> aww
[11:26] <k6b> man
[11:26] <Mr_Queue> maybe should have echoed a count down..
[11:26] <k6b> srsly
[11:26] <FloodBot1> k6b: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:26] <Mr_Queue> k6b: I didn't kick you
[11:26] <almoxarife> TA5K: it wont after it is disallowed to in bios
[11:26] <k6b> it was a joke brah
[11:26] <k6b> :D
[11:26] <TA5K> almoxarife: unfortunately, I have a Sony VAIo
[11:26] <k6b> Northsys: what are you using to send mail?
[11:27] <k6b> Northsys: what command
[11:27] <k6b> heh
[11:27] <Northsys> mail -s "Hello world" my@email.com
[11:27] <xhack> heh that loop doesnt seem to work on Arch, Slackware, or CentOS Mr_Queue
[11:27] <Northsys> Enter > Wrote something
[11:27] <Northsys> Ctrl + D twice
[11:27] <TA5K> almoxarife: you know what that means for BIOS settings :(
[11:27] <Mr_Queue> The typo is know to those in the know, who know.
[11:27] <almoxarife> TA5K: nope
[11:27] <k6b> I've never done the ctrl+d thing Northsys
[11:27] <_Fury> Hi, is it possible for nvidia 3d vision under unbuntu to use an emitter, that is integrated in the screen?
[11:27] <xhack> lulz
[11:28] <Northsys> Then how to stop writing ?
[11:28] <k6b> Northsys: just hit enter and have a line with a single "."
[11:28] <Northsys> ok
[11:28] <k6b> that ends the message
[11:28] <Northsys> let me try.
[11:28] <k6b> kk
[11:28] <xhack> musta been difficult to get the email addy my@email.com Northsys
[11:28] <icat> hey .. why does ubuntu 11.10 not have the /etc/adobe/mms.cfg ? is the file somewhere else?
[11:28] <k6b> lol
[11:28] <k6b> it's a good one
[11:28] <Northsys> Done
[11:28] <xhack> yeah srsly
[11:29] <k6b> worked
[11:29] <k6b> ?
[11:29]  * Northsys kisses k6b
[11:29] <Northsys> ;;)
[11:29] <k6b> heh
[11:29] <k6b> np
[11:29] <Northsys> Thank you very much.
[11:29] <theadmin> xhack: Yet easier on Arch: pacman -Rcsn $(pacman -Q)
[11:29] <theadmin> xhack: :P
[11:29] <ServerSage> It's getting a little too lovey-dovey in here.
[11:29] <Northsys> If I want to send a file, I need to write whatever I want then make a new line with a dot ?
[11:29] <k6b> ha
[11:29] <almoxarife> _Fury: http://www.zib.de/durmaz/3dVision.html
[11:30] <k6b> I'm not sure how to attach files to mailx Northsys
[11:30] <k6b> I only use it to test stuff
[11:30] <ServerSage> Northsys: Probably better ways to send files.
[11:30] <xhack> mailx bunchofoptions < file
[11:30] <k6b> nice xhack
[11:30] <Northsys> mail and mailx == same ?!
[11:30] <xhack> k6b is not allowed to redirect commands ever though
[11:30] <k6b> mailx -send-this-mail-now-with-my-file < file
[11:30] <jussi> please, can we keep strictly to ubuntu support - arch linux discussion are offtopic in here.   (and dangerous commands also)
[11:31] <k6b> haha
[11:31] <_Fury> almoxarife thanks. I already read this article. They the i need a dedicated emitter. Is there really no possiblity to do it without?
[11:31] <k6b> good one jussi
[11:31] <theadmin> Sorry jussi, heh, I guess we got distracted
[11:31] <jussi> k6b: you can also learn to be a little less heavy on the enter key ;)
[11:31] <k6b> Northsys: mailx is the name of the program that uses the mail command
[11:31] <xhack> dude youre a ubuntu user. you better have a sense of humor or its gonna be a long painful ride for ya
[11:31] <k6b> jussi: I like to see my name in the channel
[11:32] <TA5K> almoxarife: it's more than worse. Because they don't have any advanced BIOS settings enabled
[11:32] <almoxarife> !op | kb6
[11:32] <k6b> wut
[11:32] <xhack> wuh
[11:33] <k6b> what does that mean?
[11:33] <almoxarife> !ot | k6b
[11:33] <Ben64> probably because you're offtopic
[11:33] <Northsys> It works fine with "mail -s "subject" mail@address.domain < /file/path
[11:33] <Northsys> Thank you very much all.
[11:33] <k6b> oh...just trying to help :\
[11:34] <_Fury> I got an Asus 3d stereo screen. Is there no way to use its IR emitter for nvidia 3d vision under ubuntu?
[11:34] <Omega> I'm having some trouble with a fresh install of 11.10, my usb mouse works but sometimes it doesn't allow me to click, I think it's a focus problem, because earlier it also gave me a "cannot grab mouse" errpr
[11:35] <xhack> well k6b i think the general tone is be helpful but for the love of all things shuttleworth dont say anything mildly humorous or remotely interesting in here
[11:35] <almoxarife> TA5K: i have not looked for a way to have both avail but use one over the other, there must be a way to do it from the system end
[11:35] <k6b> that would appear to be so xhack
[11:36] <subdesign> hi, how to automount dvd devices in 11.10 ?
[11:37] <k6b> eject?
[11:38] <skilz> subdesign: pmount
[11:38] <k6b> oh mount, haha sorry
[11:38] <kokyu> how can I see what package contents belongs to a certain package, like "coreutils"?
[11:38] <TA5K> almoxarife: There should be one, but apparently it's not easy to find a solution. But maybe it's better to directly contact the ironhide devs
[11:38] <subdesign> skilz, thx checking
[11:39] <xhack> dpkg -L coreutils
[11:39] <xhack> to list the files in a package
[11:40] <kokyu> xhack: thanks :)
[11:40] <azerhgh> 123
[11:40] <k6b> 456
[11:40] <azerhgh> slt a ts
[11:41] <subdesign> skilz, i get "/dev/sg1 is not a block device"
[11:41] <iceroot> kokyu: to see what a package has use dpkg -S, to see to what package a file belongs use "dpkg -S filename"
[11:41] <azerhgh> french here ???
[11:41] <ServerSage> subdesign: What did you just try to do?
[11:42] <subdesign> sudo pmount /dev/sg1 /media/cdrom
[11:42] <bazhang> azerhgh, in #ubuntu-fr
[11:42] <ServerSage> subdesign: Is /dev/sg1 your dvd drive?
[11:42] <subdesign> yes.. and sg3 the blu-ray
[11:43] <azerhgh> ubuntu.fr , how can i do ??
[11:43] <bazhang> azerhgh, /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:43] <azerhgh> i need help
[11:44] <jmae> alguien habla español por aqui es mi primera prueba
[11:44] <bazhang> !es | jmae
[11:44] <ServerSage> subdesign: Are you able to mount it using the normal mount command?
[11:44] <Joene> Hi :)
[11:45] <Joene> Anyone there?
[11:45] <ServerSage> Joene: If you have a question, just ask.
[11:45] <kokyu> Joene: physically?
[11:45] <subdesign> ServerSage, i tried mount , pmount
[11:45] <Joene> How can format a write protected flash disk in linux?
[11:45] <subdesign> ServerSage, result .. same
[11:45] <Joene> How can I format a write protected flash disk in linux?
[11:46] <iceroot> Joene: not possible
[11:46] <Joene> Why?
[11:46] <iceroot> Joene: as it says itself "write protected"
[11:46] <Joene> how can i remove it?
[11:46] <ServerSage> subdesign: Do you have an /etc/fstab entry for your DVD drive?
[11:46] <kokyu> Joene: "write protected" in what sense? device-side or just permissions on the OS-side?
[11:46] <skilz> Joene: gparted
[11:46] <iceroot> Joene: i know flash drives which have a hardware-dip to enable/disbale writing
[11:46] <iceroot> Joene: like the floppies from old days
[11:47] <skilz> Joene: Make sure the drive is unmounted before you try to format it.
[11:47] <Joene> i think its device side :'( i tried anything in windows but nothing works :(
[11:47] <Joene> gparted didn't also work :(
[11:47] <iceroot> Joene: then have a look at the device or the manual
[11:47] <iceroot> Joene: you cant format it if it is write-protected
[11:47] <dr_willis> could be a bad flash drive also
[11:48] <subdesign> ServerSage, no as i checked, should insert into this file?
[11:48] <Joene> I dont have the manual, my father send it from afghanistan, im prom philippines
[11:48] <Joene> Everytime i try to format it, it fails :(
[11:48] <Auriga> Joene, Could try something lower level than an OS.
[11:48] <buzzmandt> Google search the flash drivea for a manual
[11:49] <ServerSage> Joene: I'd venture a guess that it's probably a bad drive.  If you don't see an obvious physical switch for going between ro and rw it probably doesn't have one.
[11:49] <Joene> How can i know the manufacturer? my device looks like a dog tag, it might came from a millitary man
[11:49] <buzzmandt> No writing on it?
[11:49] <Joene> it doesnt have switch either :(
[11:49] <ServerSage> Joene: If it doesn't have markings, try plugging it in and running lsusb
[11:50] <Joene> no writing "(
[11:50] <Joene> what is lsusb?
[11:50] <Auriga> No writing, so it's generic... Not a good sign...
[11:50] <paulus68> First of all I want to wish you guys all the best for 2012
[11:50] <Joene> No writing, no format.. it screws me up :(
[11:51] <paulus68> what is the best way to create a virtual machine on a server
[11:51] <ServerSage> Joene: lsusb is a command line prog you can run to get a list of currently plugged in USB devices.
[11:51] <Auriga> It's 2012 already...
[11:51] <Auriga> ?#
[11:51] <Joene> ok i'll try
[11:51] <ServerSage> paulus68: What are you using?  VMware?  Virtualbox?  Xen?
[11:52] <paulus68> Auriga: I know but it's the first time I pass by since New year
[11:52] <Joene> Got it, what should i do next?
[11:52] <ServerSage> Joene: Got what?
[11:52] <Auriga> paulus68, I was making note that I hadn't noticed a near year rolling around... Again....
[11:52] <Joene> lsusb gave me the list, its Elan microelectronics
[11:52] <paulus68> ServerSage: I use ubuntu server and I want to create a virtual machine on there
[11:53] <ServerSage> Joene: Then do some research.  Go to your favorite search engine and start digging.
[11:53] <Joene> Ok, I'll see thanks for the help :))
[11:53] <ServerSage> paulus68: Ok…If you want free I recommend VirtualBox.
[11:54] <almoxarife> paulus68:  virtualbox(headless)
[11:54] <paulus68> ServerSage: can this be done from the command line since I don't have a graphical interface on the server
[11:55] <almoxarife> paulus68: virtualbox(headless) <-- command line
[11:55] <iceroot> paulus68: vbox can be run from the cli, yes
[11:55] <ServerSage> paulus68: almoxarife just gave you the answer to that.  VirtualBox headless.  Google it, there are a gagillion forums posts about it.
[11:55] <paulus68> ServerSage: ok thanks guys
[11:55] <iceroot> !google | ServerSage
[11:56] <klauzooo> Hello can someone tell me what i dont have if movies from player a little blue ?
[11:56] <klauzooo> this is codec problem I guess ?
[11:56] <ServerSage> iceroot: I'm not sure typing "virtualbox headless" into google requires google-fu.
[11:57] <ServerSage> klauzooo: Do you mean the movies have a blue tint when they play?
[11:57] <klauzooo> ServerSage: yep
[11:57] <iceroot> ServerSage: but this channel is not for "put foobar on google"
[11:57] <iceroot> ServerSage: please respect that
[11:57] <almoxarife> ServerSage: concur
[11:58] <ServerSage> klauzooo: I would guess it's probably video drivers.  But that is a WAG.
[11:58] <almoxarife> iceroot: where where you when the script kiddes were disrespecting ???
[11:58] <klauzooo> ServerSage: But not in all movies ?
[11:58] <klauzooo> i have that problem
[11:59] <ServerSage> klauzooo: I had a similar problem, though I don't remember if it was only certain codecs.  Switching from nv to the closed nvidia driver solved it for me.
[12:00] <ServerSage> iceroot: It's also not the virtual box channel.  Just saying.  :)  But yes, I'll do my very best to never say the word google ever again in here.
[12:01] <klauzooo> ServerSage: Thanks
[12:01] <iceroot> ServerSage: its not that google is always bad, but in my opinion if someone does not have a clue just saying google it is not good and does not show how great this channel is normally
[12:02] <ServerSage> iceroot: I don't disagree with that, but I also don't think #ubuntu is the place to walk somebody through configuring a headless VM in virtualbox.  Though I suppose walking him through installing virtualbox would have been useful.
[12:03] <almoxarife> ServerSage: i believe the ethos is that people dont get the idea your only help is finding it yourself, i know #linux does it to the inferior, but the nick did say he wanted it on command line, if you are going about command line virtualbox you can stand to do a bit of google
[12:03] <iceroot> ServerSage: the ubuntu-part (installation is correct here, yes. the rest goes to #vbox)
[12:03] <IDL_> i want to search text in all of my files in ubuntu from root .what suitable command i should use .Note:-i only want to know the file names containing the specific text
[12:03] <ServerSage> IDL_: grep
[12:04] <almoxarife> IDL_: within or as part of the file name?
[12:04] <assurbanipal> guys hi,i m running ubuntu 10.11 and in gnome-shell 3.2 when i search for an app it causes 100% cpu usage. can anyone help?
[12:04] <ServerSage> IDL_: I think the -l option will only print the file names.
[12:05] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: search for it how?
[12:05] <Auriga> Is it possible to find theme files, & move them across to another OS?
[12:05] <iceroot> Auriga: what is "another os"?
[12:05] <ServerSage> IDL_: Aaah, if you want to know files with names containing some text you can use the find command
[12:05] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, going to top right corner and start typing or click on applications menu
[12:05] <xhack> assurbanipal, yes. use apt-cache
[12:06] <Auriga> iceroot, Ubuntu in this case, from LinuxMint.
[12:06] <Auriga> iceroot, Just trying to find the WildMint theme...
[12:06] <iceroot> Auriga: depending on the software both are using
[12:06] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: that only lasts for a few secs right? the high cpu
[12:06] <Auriga> iceroot, Both are gnome, but I don't know where the files are.
[12:06] <iceroot> Auriga: if they both use the same gnome-version there should normally not be a problem
[12:06] <Auriga> iceroot, do you know where the files are?
[12:07] <iceroot> Auriga: sorry i am not a gnome-user
[12:07] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, no i have to kill x and login with gnome and kill gnome-shell process
[12:07] <iceroot> !themes | Auriga (maybe this has a hint)
[12:07] <iceroot> Auriga: the last link maybe
[12:07] <SoapGoat> How do i change language for a user that is currently restricted to do so because of sabayon restrictions? The user is pretty much restricted to do anything else than using writing programs and a browser. I got access to the admin user tough.
[12:07] <SoapGoat> root user i mean
[12:08] <_jason> SoapGoat: modify his ~/.dmrc
[12:08] <txomon|home> assurbanipal, are you using the ppa?
[12:08] <_jason> SoapGoat: wait, can't he change the language in lightdm when he logs in?  Sabayon should not be relevant there
[12:08] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: something is not right, obviously, ppa's added in the last week?
[12:08] <Auriga> Thanks...
[12:08] <SoapGoat> _jason: tbh i didn't check give me 2 secs
[12:09] <assurbanipal> i am aloso getting errors with my ppa;s... can someone help me fix it ?u think it's from there?
--in find command i am getting following error..grep: ./proc/sysrq-trigger: Input/output error find: `grep' terminated by signal 9   , and i dont know what does it mean
[12:09] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: yeah, its from there
[12:10] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, how can i shpw you my repo list so u check it mate?
[12:10] <wolf23> help me please, after i do upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 my pc is freezing too much,whats the solution..
[12:11] <ServerSage> IDL_: What is your ultimate goal?  If you want to use find on / you'll need to exclude some things.   Such as /dev, /proc, /sys, etc...
[12:11] <cablop> what is the better form to put a logical volume (lvm) on fstab /dev/mapper/VGName-LVName or /dev/VGName/LVName ???
[12:11] <SoapGoat> _jason: Yeah i actually could do that.. :P I usually go for the "Hardest" sollutions first before i check out the easiest ways to fix it thanks for the help anyways :P
[12:11] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: showing me ppa's wont matter, see if Y-ppa-manager is a available install?
[12:11] <txomon|home> assurbanipal, Are you installing gnome-shell from ppa?
 i just want to fint text PATRON_ADDRESS in all files from root
[12:12] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, lost u there,what u mean?
[12:12] <cablop> what is the better form to put a logical volume (lvm) on fstab /dev/mapper/VGName-LVName or /dev/VGName/LVName ???
[12:12] <ServerSage> IDL_: And you can't narrow it down to a few dirs?  I mean, chances are that you won't files those files in /var or /usr, right?
[12:13] <xhack> cablop either way is the same
[12:13] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: you need the purge-ppa util, it is much simpler when used in the Y-ppa-manager app, otherwise its all terminal
[12:14] <xhack> my pref is /dev/vgname/lvname but technically its no different
 actually i even don't know in which directory it lies :(
 that's why want to search in all files ,i mean all-over
[12:14] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: btw, there is no 100% that your system will be the virgin it was once, ppa's do this to a system,
[12:14] <sasson> Hey guys
[12:15] <cablop> xhack: i prefer the 2nd, looks cleaner, thanks
[12:15] <sasson> any idea how can I connect my TTL output to USART input?
[12:15] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, i am using synaptic, i disabled ricotz ppa
[12:16] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, i disabled ricotz, should i try reinstalling gnome-shell?
[12:16] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: that wont fix your system,
[12:16] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, what am i supposed to do then?
[12:16] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: purge gnome, re-install gnome
[12:16] <zabomber> i want to reverse proxy to http://localhost/worksite but this website actually redirects to http://localhost/login ??? how do i get reverseproxy to work?
[12:16] <assurbanipal> whole gnome?not just shell?
[12:17] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: you will have unity as the back end
[12:17] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: gnome-shell
[12:17] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, i already purged it with no luck
[12:17] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, after reinstalling it the same happens again
[12:17] <Chotaz`W> Hum, anyone can suggest me a good PSX/PS1 emulator that runs on ubuntu/debian based systems?
[12:18] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: you are back to needing to use a ppa-purge
[12:18] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, dont; know how to do taht
[12:18] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: i am telling you to add a ppa to fix the damage done by ppa's, sounds obsurd but that is where you are at
[12:19] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, can u guide me through it?i
[12:19] <ServerSage> IDL_: Give it a list of dirs then.  So you would do something like "find /etc /home /var /usr…" instead of just /.  Just don't include /dev, /proc, or /sys
[12:19] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: google Y ppa manager, tell me if it gives you the ppa for it?
[12:21] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, so i add this  https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/y-ppa-manager through synaptic?
[12:21] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: yes
[12:21] <assurbanipal> aok, and then?
[12:22] <assurbanipal> 2810761150
[12:22] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: recheck in synaptic all the ppa's you unchecked
[12:24] <ServerSage> Wow, nothing like a server making a god awful loud squeal in an otherwise silent room at 4:25am to get the blood flowing.
[12:24] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: use my nick if speaking to me
[12:24] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, ok, i added it and rechecked the disabled ones, what's next now?
[12:25] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: quit synaptic
[12:25] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, should i update or install smthng?
[12:25] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: open y-ppa-manager and look for 'purge'
 but what if i want to search from root all over without mentioning any directory name
[12:26] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: did you install yppamanager?
[12:27] <xcoy> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:27] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, trying to find the package...
[12:28] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: in synaptic,  y-ppa-manager
[12:29] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, installing...
[12:29] <ServerSage> IDL_: I have not tested this, just off the top of my head you can try:  find `ls -d /* |grep -v 'dev\|proc\|sys'` -name "*PATRON_ADDRESS*"
[12:30] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: you understand that this is not 100%? , the damage is done, and for all i know depending on what you purge you may do more damage?, agreed?
--- After running command from root   find /root . -type f -exec grep -il "PATRON_ADDRESS" {} \; , its giving me error thats is grep: ./proc/sysrq-trigger: Input/output error find: `grep' terminated by signal 9 , i can't understand where i am using /dev or something like that ? please help
[12:30] <ServerSage> IDL_: See my previous comment.  Give that find I supplied a try.
[12:31] <IDL_> done with it
[12:31] <IDL_> nothing happens
[12:31] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, what kind of more damage?i have a major issue on this machine:is alaptop with brocken optical drive, not capable of booting from usb,so reinstalling is not an option...
[12:31] <IDL_> :(
[12:32] <xukun> is removing pulseaudio the only way to get passthrough sound working?
nothing found :(
[12:32] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: the options right now are to undo what was done, and there is warranty on that
[12:33] <ServerSage> IDL_: Odd, I just tried it on my system and it works.  Change the PATRON_ADDRESS to something like fstab and see if it finds anything.
[12:33] <trippeh> xukun: 11.10 is the first release where pulseaudio supports passthrough, but I'm not sure if all the apps support that part of the pulseaudio interface yet.
[12:33] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: the options right now are to undo what was done, and there is/no/ warranty on that
[12:33] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, if i go back to only the original ppa's and remove gnome-shell and reinstall it,wont that work?
[12:33] <ServerSage> IDL_: Cut/paste the command you are trying to run.
[12:33] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: you still have 'unity' intact right?
[12:34] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, i think yes, i do
[12:34] <IDL_> ok
[12:34] <xukun> ServerSage, it's mainly an application called xbmc. I think xbmc does not support pulseaudio but I'm not sure
[12:34] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, i also have enlightment installed
[12:34] <ServerSage> xukun: You may have replied to the wrong person.  :)
[12:34] <txomon|home> theadmin, hey, gnome-core didnt install a archive manager...
[12:34] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: cant say, and i am tired of disclaming the obvious, so its a decision you get to make
[12:35] <Night-hacks> is it possible to kill firefox tab process (child) without killing the parent process ?
[12:35] <xukun> ServerSage, yeh sorry m8
 this was your's  find `ls -d /* |grep -v 'dev\|proc\|sys'` -name "*PATRON_ADDRESS*"  didnt found anything
find /root . -type f -exec grep -il "PATRON_ADDRESS" {} \; this was mine
[12:35] <xukun> trippeh, it is mainly an application called xbmc. I think xbmc does not support pulseaudio but I'm not sure
[12:35] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: the rest is following the prompts from y-ppa-manager purge process
[12:36] <Dynamit> I don't have any problem with xbmc xukun
[12:36] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, which ppa am i supposed to purge?
[12:36] <Night-hacks> any idea ?
[12:36] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: cant tell you, i would chose the obvious, the one with the most impact on gnome-shell
[12:37] <ServerSage> IDL_: Not sure what to tell you, that command works on my system.  :(
[12:37] <ServerSage> IDL_: How long does it take to run?
[12:37] <xukun> Dynamit, really?
[12:37] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, ricotz?if i knew which ppa to purge i wouldn;t ask...
[12:37] <Dynamit> yes
- just a second
[12:38] <ServerSage> IDL_: No way it's doing anything then.
[12:38] <ServerSage> IDL_: Try just running find `ls -d /* |grep -v 'dev\|proc\|sys'`
[12:39] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: sure, why not
[12:40] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, and after that reinstall gnome-shell?
[12:41] <almoxarife> assurbanipal: shouldnt need to, this basically will do that, if you need an install afterwards, just install 'gnome-shell' it will find anything missing to make it complete
[12:42] <assurbanipal> almoxarife, ok tnx
 can you atleast correct my command  find /root . -type f -exec grep -il "PATRON_ADDRESS" {} \;
[12:44] <root_> hey
[12:44] <root_> can any one
[12:44] <root_> tell me how to add users in bt5
[12:44] <root_> tell me how to add users in bt5
[12:44] <txomon> root_, sudo add-user <username> =
[12:44] <txomon> ?
[12:45] <root_> comon man its bt5 kde
[12:45] <txomon|home> and what about that?
[12:45] <root_> that was not working man
[12:45] <ServerSage> IDL_: I told you how to fix it.   When you say find / it will go through every dir in /.  Directories like proc will cause the error you had.  So you need to exclude them.  The find I gave you does that.  You can also give it a list instead.  So find /var /etc /usr /home etc… .
[12:45] <txomon|home> root_, useradd maybe?
[12:46] <root_> hmm
[12:46] <tafelpoot> root_: adduser <username>
[12:46] <root_> well i ll see it later
[12:46] <root_> any bt expert here
[12:46] <txomon|home> root_, try #backtrack
[12:46] <tafelpoot> root_: did you try adduser ?
[12:46] <bazhang> !backtrack | root_
[12:46] <root_> yup
[12:46] <ServerSage> IDL_: But, that find/grep you have will only return files that have text IN the file that contains PATRON_ADDRESS, it will NOT look at file names.
[12:47] <bazhang> root_, /join #backtrack-linux , it's not supported here
[12:47] <root_> i tried it bt it was not asking for the password for that user
[12:47] <txomon|home> root_, so it is working, then you have to change the password...
[12:47] <txomon|home> read man
[12:47] <tafelpoot> root_: then you do, as root passwd<username>
[12:48] <almoxarife> txomon|home: take it #bt
[12:48] <txomon|home> true
[12:51] <samba35> how do i add  repositories for 12.04  ,i have only cdrom in sorce list
[12:51] <iceroot> samba35: you are using 12.04?
[12:51] <samba35> yes as a guest on 10.04
[12:52] <samba35> to understand only
[12:52] <iceroot> samba35: #ubuntu+1
[12:52] <samba35> ok
[12:53] <theadmin> txomon|home: Install file-roller. It's not a core gnome componnent indeed
[12:55] <txomon> theadmin, I finally installed software-center, it deals with .debs quite good
[12:55] <txomon> and has not too many requirements
[12:55] <theadmin> txomon: Huh... I prefer apt on the commandline... Well honestly in Ubuntu I normally use smart (package: smartpm)
[12:56] <theadmin> txomon: It has both CLI and GUI, and deals with local installs well. You can even give it something like, let's see... "smart install http://example.org/something.deb" and it will eat it :D
[12:56] <txomon> theadmin, I also do, but for keeping the track of .deb is better
[12:56] <txomon> hummm oki
[12:57] <theadmin> txomon: But I wouldn't suggest it unless you know how to configure it for APT -- because by default it's not
[12:57] <txomon> I will take a look in that, and if I like, I will read man
[12:58] <theadmin> txomon: Here's the command you use for that: sudo smart config --set sync-apt-sources=yes
[12:59] <theadmin> txomon: After that, "sudo smart update" and you're good to go
[12:59] <txomon> oki, thank you!, as I said, I would only use it for .deb, as apt-get with apt-cache is perfect for me
[13:00] <iceroot> theadmin: where is "smart" comming from?
[13:00] <theadmin> iceroot: A third-party project, present in Ubuntu repos. Works on DEB&RPM distros and slackware, lol
[13:00] <theadmin> iceroot: An attempt at a universal package manager, basically
[13:00] <iceroot> theadmin: and what is the advantage instead of using apt/dpkg?
[13:01] <theadmin> iceroot: I dunno, feels friendlier. Just saying. You should use what you prefer.
[13:01] <theadmin> txomon: Same to you. To install .deb via CLI you can use gdebi (package: gdebi-core)
[13:01] <theadmin> txomon: No point to pull an entire new package manager for that
[13:02] <garden92> i just uncompressed the teamspeak run file and it gave me this TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64 file. how do i install this?
[13:02] <iceroot> txomon: to install a local deb on cli please use "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[13:02] <txomon> theadmin, the idea was it took track of the .deb, as software manager does
[13:02] <theadmin> txomon: gdebi does the same
[13:02] <txomon> iceroot, but it doesn't take any track of it
[13:02] <iceroot> txomon: track?
[13:02] <theadmin> txomon: I mean, gdebi installs .debs via APT, not just puts them into dpkg database.
[13:02] <theadmin> idk
[13:03] <theadmin> Whatever lol, I'm not too into APT after all
[13:03] <txomon> xD im only into apt-get
[13:03] <iceroot> txomon: it doesnt matter if you use dpkg, software-center, apt-get and aptitude all are tracked in the dpkg database
[13:03] <iceroot> txomon: but in all cases its best to install debs from the ubuntu-repos instead of using local downloaded deb-files
[13:04] <mackminer> Hi, Would I be fortunate enough to find a linuxcoin expert here or ubuntu/debian?
[13:04] <patrask> am i right in assuming that main-updates is an officially supported repo?
[13:05] <iceroot> patrask: yes
[13:05] <patrask> cool, thanks
[13:05] <theadmin> mackminer: Please ask your real question rather than "does anyone know <softwarename>"
[13:05] <iceroot> patrask: and it should be enabled by default
[13:05] <imi> hi
[13:05] <imi> in oneiric
[13:05] <theadmin> !enter | imi
[13:05] <imi> sorry
[13:05] <txm> Afternoon.  Is there a tool to convert a ext partition to XFS? Thanks,
[13:06] <mackminer> Guys, I have an issue where my ubuntu machine keeps switching itself off! Can you someone point me to where I can check logs for the possible reason?
[13:06] <txomon> iceroot, its for skype, dropbox etc. Which are not in ubuntu archives
[13:06] <iceroot> txomon: skype is in the repos
[13:07] <iceroot> txomon: it should be the partner-repo
[13:07] <txomon> humm will try
[13:07] <txm> mackminer: try dmesg - depending what the problem is, you may not see anything useful
[13:07] <iceroot> txomon: dropbox is also in the repos (nautilis-dropbox)
[13:07] <vega-> mackminer: power save.. ?
[13:08] <coder2> Hello. Please help me with "no sound" problem. I have installed ATi fglrx driver and all sound now works only via HDMI output. And I still need the analog output
[13:08] <iceroot> !skype | txomon
[13:08] <imi> so I have an oneiric server. now I issue ssh server '-R*:2222:127.0.0.1:2222' then I launch the listening port on my client, and when I try to nmap the serverport it says: closed (if I want to nc, it terminates immediately). fuser -n tcp 2222 says there's no process associated to this port, but cannot issue nc -l 0.0.0.0 2222, address already in use. I enabled ssh port forwarding and restarted the server, but this is still present
[13:09] <txomon> !Ekiga
[13:09] <mackminer> txm: vega- It's one of four servers and I think the issue may be related to power draw. Was hoping I could find a reason in the logs. How would I search for such a thing txm within dmesg?
[13:09] <iceroot> imi: -L instead of -R
[13:09] <txomon> iceroot, all my friends use Skype so sry about ekiga ;D
[13:09] <imi> iceroot: it's a REMOTE port forward not a local one
[13:09] <iceroot> imi: ssh user@host -L localhost:9999:remote-server:9998
[13:09] <imi> so -R is correct
[13:09] <imi> so -R is correct
[13:09] <iceroot> imi: ah ok, sorry
[13:10] <imi> same command works fine with a debian server
[13:12] <vega-> mackminer: don't know, what about looking into some management software of the servers etc. don't they usually have something like this? might just be nothing is logged at os level..
[13:13] <mackminer> vega-: I wonder would anyone know if it's possible to get software to tell you the power draw as opposed to using a wattmeter on the plug?
[13:13] <mackminer> mackminer: I have high quality PSU's but they are near max
[13:14] <biginttosh> hi
[13:14] <biginttosh> how to automount swap partition on startup
[13:14] <biginttosh> /etc/fstab contains a uuid reference to an other device which is not currently attached
[13:14] <coder2> thanks anyway. :-( bye
[13:15] <iceroot> biginttosh: change the uuid in /etc/fstab to the correct one
[13:15] <Benkinooby> sometimes okular takes more than 10 seconds to render a pdf slide. once it is rendered returning to that same slide after being on an other slide behaves normal. anyone nitced the same behaviour?
[13:15] <biginttosh> iceroot, where to look for uuid
[13:15] <iceroot> biginttosh: sudo blkid
[13:15] <biginttosh> iceroot, thanks
[13:20] <teemo_> hi, where does skype minimize to?
[13:20] <theadmin> Benkinooby: Well after it finishes rendering for the first time it is already stored in the memory, so when you return to it all it does is just call back the already rendered image
[13:20] <theadmin> Benkinooby: So I suppose it's normal
[13:21] <stahlie> what's the command to see how much free space on disk?
[13:21] <Guest54748> stahlie: df -h
[13:21] <Dynamit> free
[13:21] <Dynamit> for ram
[13:21] <biginttosh> iceroot, do i need to comment out this line in /etc/fstab        /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[13:22] <iceroot> biginttosh: you have an encrypted swap?
[13:22] <biginttosh> iceroot, nop but it was there before
[13:22] <iceroot> biginttosh: then remove/uncomment that line
[13:22] <teemo> everytime i open skype, it says there is another instance running
[13:23] <Benkinooby> theadmin, that's my guess too... but the rendering is awfully slow... :( funny thing is, that "smaller" pdf viewer like xpdf take even more time to render what is quite wired
[13:23] <iceroot> biginttosh: UUID=foobar /dev/sdXY none swap sw 0 0
[13:23] <iceroot> biginttosh: should be the correct line
[13:23] <theadmin> Benkinooby: Yeah actually Okular is the fastest thing I found myself, which is annoying because it's a KDE app
[13:23] <stahlie> wow!! ubuntu used up 280GB quickly
[13:23] <Benkinooby> theadmin, +1
[13:24] <biginttosh> teemo, ps  aux | grep skype kill other instances and relaunch although i am not sure aobut it
[13:24] <FransUrbo> I have a problem with Precise install...
[13:24] <Pici> FransUrbo: Precise support is only offered in #ubuntu+1 at this time.
[13:24] <theadmin> !ubuntu+1 | FransUrbo
[13:24] <FransUrbo> Ok, thanx.
[13:24] <biginttosh> iceroot, remove the line or uncomment the line ?
[13:25] <iceroot> biginttosh: doesnt matter
[13:25] <biginttosh> iceroot, ok thanks
[13:25] <Chotaz`W> Are there any good PSX emulator for ubuntu?
[13:26] <theadmin> Chotaz`W: ePSXe
[13:28] <teemo> ok so i killed all instances of skype, now if i close it from the x button, not minimize, where does it go to
[13:28] <biginttosh> teemo, i think its a glitch
[13:29] <biginttosh> teemo, it will disappear but running in background
[13:29] <teemo> so it doesn't show the skype circle up top somewhere? I have to minimize? im so used to hitting the close button
[13:29] <teemo> what a big glitch
[13:29] <Chotaz`W> theadmin: via Wine or linux binaries?
[13:29] <biginttosh> teemo, pin it to launchbar
[13:29] <biginttosh> teemo, thats what i do
[13:30] <theadmin> Chotaz`W: The Linux ones
[13:30] <teemo> good idea, thanks biginttosh
[13:30] <Chotaz`W> theadmin: awesome thanks :)
[13:30] <teemo> actually that didnt solve the problem
[13:31] <teemo> if i kill close on skype im in trouble, i always have to remember to hit minimize
[13:31] <biginttosh> teemo, yup :) try finding some way i will be glad to hear it
[13:32] <cloudgeek> any body know any a bash utility than can provide combination of Byobu+Terminator  ??
[13:33] <biginttosh> teemo, not sure but perhaps window decorator or window manager is not handling skype close button call
[13:33] <iceroot> cloudgeek: Byoby/screen
[13:34] <iceroot> cloudgeek: you can use splitted-windows on screen/byoby too
[13:34] <cloudgeek> iceroot: how ??
[13:35] <iceroot> cloudgeek:        C-a S       (split)       Split the current region horizontally into two new ones.  See also only, remove, focus.
[13:35] <iceroot> cloudgeek: man screen
[13:35] <cloudgeek> iceroot:thanks
[13:35] <imi> so I have an oneiric server. now I issue ssh server '-R*:2222:127.0.0.1:2222' then I launch the listening port on my client, and when I try to nmap the serverport it says: closed (if I want to nc, it terminates immediately). fuser -n tcp 2222 says there's no process associated to this port, but cannot issue nc -l 0.0.0.0 2222, address already in use. I enabled ssh port forwarding and restarted the server, but this is still present. same command wor
[13:35] <imi> ks fine with a debian server
[13:37] <biginttosh> teemo, on windows skype doesn't quit unless quit option is being chosen
[13:37] <teemo> biginttosh: seems to be a ubuntu bug: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66579/where-are-my-tray-icons-in-the-unity-2d-panel
[13:38] <biginttosh> teemo, must be since unity has loads of other as well
[13:43] <bluphoton> hell all. has anyone here flashed a phone with ubuntu ?
[13:44] <donica> hi
[13:44] <donica> I'm trying to install vmware server on ubuntu server 10.4. I downloaded from vmware version VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.tar.gz and I followed the explanations of the site http://www.howtoforge.com/vmware-server-2.0.2-xo
[13:44] <donica> until here everything ok
[13:44] <FloodBot1> donica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:44] <donica> but when I execute the following command gives me these errors
[13:45] <donica> FloodBotl - ok sorry
[13:49] <yuler> Is there a list of command lines and their descriptions for Ubuntu like there is for Anti-X OS (Debian and Mepisimo)?  http://www.mepisimo.com/antix/Released/installed-M11-full.txt
[13:51] <theadmin> yuler: List of commands? "ls $(echo $PATH|sed 's/\:/ /')", descriptions? Read the manpage for each of those
[13:51] <donica> hi
[13:51] <donica> I'm trying to install vmware server on ubuntu server 10.4. I downloaded from vmware version VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.tar.gz and I followed the explanations of the site http://www.howtoforge.com/vmware-server-2.0.2-xo
[13:51] <donica> until here everything ok
[13:51] <FloodBot1> donica: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:51] <donica> but when I execute the following command gives me these errors
[13:52] <donica> FloodBotl - I did not understand what should I do
[13:52] <blitz> floodbot is a little sensitive
[13:52] <blitz> paste the errors using his paste link there
[13:52] <blitz> then we'll check them out
[13:52] <teemo> biginttosh: here is a solution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857319
[13:52] <[Necris]Akasha> hi
[13:53] <[Necris]Akasha> how can i install varnish3 on ubuntu natty amd64?
[13:53] <biginttosh> teemo, nice
[13:54] <Pici> [Necris]Akasha: The 'varnish' package should supply all that you need.
[13:54] <donica> someone can help me
[13:56] <blitz> donica,  paste your command and errors here http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:57] <nixmaniack> anyone knows how can I disable this autosuspend permanently for usb mouse?
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> nixmaniack  start from the beginning
[13:59] <nixmaniack> MonkeyDust, i didn't get you
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> !details| nixmaniack
[14:01] <almoxarife> http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=57388 <-- nixmaniack, is that what you are talking about?, and yes, it can be
[14:01] <nixmaniack> MonkeyDust, I have Ubuntu 11.10 64bit, I have USB mouse connected to my laptop, and it autosuspends after 2ms of idle time. How can I disable this? i followed the guide at 'http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/power-management.txt'. but it's not persistent :( Someone overwrites the autosuspend time
[14:02] <nixmaniack> almoxarife, that's user profile!
[14:02] <almoxarife> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8407731&postcount=4 <-- nixmaniack, my bad, thats the one
[14:02] <[Necris]Akasha> Pici: the 'varnish' package install varnish 2
[14:03] <[Necris]Akasha> i need varnish 3
[14:03] <nixmaniack> almoxarife, i'll check that
[14:04] <almoxarife> nixmaniack: why do you want to auto........ your mouse?
[14:04] <yuler> theadmin: thanks, but I'm looking for a brief summary of each cmd per the link
[14:04] <nixmaniack> almoxarife, i want to disable autosuspend
[14:05] <nixmaniack> almoxarife, but there's no /etc/laptop-mode/ :( i'm trying locate laptop-mode just a min
[14:05] <lalo> hi
[14:06] <nixmaniack> almoxarife, the only link is '/usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/laptop-mode' which enables/disables laptop-mode, no setting for autosuspend on/off
[14:08] <nixmaniack> almoxarife, can you take a look at this? --> /etc/pm/power.d/usb_autosuspend
[14:09] <[Necris]Akasha> how can i install varnish 3 on ubuntu natty amd64?
[14:09] <Shwaiil> hi
[14:10] <almoxarife> nixmaniack: not found on mine
[14:10] <loganrunirc> I changed my UID however, now I can't access the home directory because of the encrypted filesystem. how do I fix this?
[14:10] <Shwaiil> Q: I want to buy a new computer, the problem's that ubuntu listed certified computers are really old, or for new models are not available in my current location. I'm wondering if there's a test I can do by my own, or if there's a non official list of compatible computers to install ubuntu without issues ? Thanks for looking!
[14:11] <loganrunirc> seems like a bug with Ubuntu
[14:11] <nixmaniack> almoxarife, oh! then i must have installed some app which seems to do power management
[14:11] <compdoc> Shwaiil, I have it installed on several computers running current AMD and Intel cpus and chipsets. I use them as servers and they run 24/7 without issues
[14:12] <buzzmandt> Shwaiil. Mostly just intel graphics is best and that it doesnt have a broadcomm wireless. Those are my search parameters
[14:12] <Shwaiil> compdoc, tks for looking! So, I can buy any computer and just install ubuntu
[14:12] <Shwaiil> buzzmandt:  tks for looking. get one with intel graphics and no broadcomm wireless
[14:12] <Shwaiil> ok
[14:13] <compdoc> Shwaiil, the only issues you might run into, is that some network cards are not supported as well as others. Same might be true of sound cards
[14:13] <[Necris]Akasha> hi
[14:13] <[Necris]Akasha> how can i install varnish 3 on ubuntu natty amd64?
[14:13] <Shwaiil> compdoc: ok I see , tks :)
[14:14] <buzzmandt> Broadcomm wireless chips are a thorn in linux still
[14:14] <compdoc> Shwaiil, so you just need to read the specs and research the various parts like nics and sound, to see if there are problems
[14:14] <Shwaiil> compdoc: I'll do that =) Just googling, there's no website where I can just put that info to check results on right ?
[14:15] <almoxarife> [Necris]Akasha: tried installing it?
[14:15] <[Necris]Akasha> almoxarife: yes, it installs varnish 2
[14:15] <[Necris]Akasha> i need 3
[14:16] <almoxarife> [Necris]Akasha: where is varnish 3 available?
[14:16] <[Necris]Akasha> almoxarife: um, everywhere
[14:16] <[Necris]Akasha> even in centos
[14:16] <almoxarife> [Necris]Akasha: so download the deb and install it
[14:16] <[Necris]Akasha> almoxarife: where?
[14:17] <almoxarife> [Necris]Akasha: you said its everywhere
[14:17] <[Necris]Akasha> not in deb
[14:17] <[Necris]Akasha> damn, its months old already
[14:17] <[Necris]Akasha> if not years
[14:17] <llutz_> [Necris]Akasha: find a ppa or build yourself
[14:21] <}[o0]{> apt-get qjackctl seems to install jackd1 when I have jackd2 installed and causes some weird issues...like jackd processes not dying when their frontend applications are killed.
[14:21] <}[o0]{> this is very annoying.
[14:22] <}[o0]{> did someone screwup the repository?
[14:22] <Chotaz`W> theadmin: from your experience, hows the pad support on ePSXe?
[14:22] <theadmin> Chotaz`W: I don't own any gamepads... Love my keyboard <3
[14:22] <theadmin> Chotaz`W: But from what I know, it's present and acceptable
[14:22] <_jason> }[o0]{: qjackctl depends simply on "jackd"
[14:23] <Chotaz`W> theadmin: thanks, i got the 1.6 binaries, will try them later on, still have to dump the bios on my PSX, but that'll take some time
[14:23] <}[o0]{> then why does the machine in the other room run qjackctl with jackd2?
[14:23] <theadmin> Chotaz`W: You can just google for some other BIOS available around... somewhere. But yeah, a real one would be best
[14:24] <_jason> }[o0]{: I don't understand how that's relevant
[14:24] <}[o0]{> how can that be correct to have some applications using jackd2 and some using jackd1? who is compiling what with what and why is this permitted?
[14:25] <_jason> }[o0]{: I don't use this application but, as I said, all I see in the depends for qjackctl is "jackd"; it doesn't explicitly require jackd1 afaict
[14:25] <}[o0]{> jackd has to be either jackd1 or jackd2. there can and should be no "third" which is listed.
[14:25] <bf4648> is there a way to install IE 9 in Ubuntu?
[14:25] <tobier> bf4648: possibly using WINE
[14:26] <almoxarife> new rule, if your nick requires a typing degree, you probably wont be getting alot of responses
[14:26] <}[o0]{> my nick requires shift+] and tab. quit being a troll.
[14:26] <tobier> bf4648: but I'm not sure if the binaries for IE9 is freely available somewhere. it is probably only distributed by Windows Updatex
[14:26] <tobier> s/Updatex/Updates
[14:26] <llutz_> }[o0]{: every thought about users with non-us kbd-layout?
[14:27] <llutz_> ever*
[14:27] <}[o0]{> no. you ever think about users with US keyboard layouts?
[14:27] <}[o0]{> quit being a troll.
[14:28] <_jason> }[o0]{: honestly, your nick isn't as friendly as a simpler one consisting entirely of letters.  I'm guilty of it myself with my current nick.  You can keep it, but it *will* dissuade some from helping you simply because it's a pain to type (relative to other nicks)
[14:28] <}[o0]{> why does a nick have to be friendly? and thanks for you permission to keep it.
[14:29] <_jason> }[o0]{: typing-wise...
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> }[o0]{  it's easier for all if you chose an easier nick
[14:29] <}[o0]{> you mean you will stop complaining if I choose another nick.
[14:29] <_jason> }[o0]{: nope, I think whether or not you change, we can move on.
[14:29] <}[o0]{> basically it will be easier for me.
[14:29] <charles_> hi
[14:30] <almoxarife> shift+lksjdflkjeojflsk: if you left i would feel really bad, yeah
[14:31] <}[o0]{> quit trolling.
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> }[o0]{  please choose another nick
[14:31] <}[o0]{> no.
[14:31] <_jason> let him be with his nick... just don't address him if you don't like it
[14:31] <almoxarife> shift+lkjlkjslkjlsdfjlsl: and why would there be a 'third'???? ppa's do it all the time,
[14:32] <tobier> Chotaz`W: not that you were talking with me, but I used to have a crappy no-brand gamepad for ePSXe and it worked fine :)
[14:32] <JuJuBee> Can ubuntu authenticate with active directory and get documents from windows file server?
[14:33] <Chotaz`W> tobier: despite targeting someone, i was talking to the channel :) thanks i have an adapter for my xbox360 controller and I guess i might try it out ^^
[14:33] <}[o0]{> because there are only two major revisions of jack and there should be a clear policy on which version of jackd will be used defaultly rather than create configuration issues with updates.
[14:33] <almoxarife> JuJuBee: yes to the second part
[14:33] <}[o0]{> now I cannot update the other machine lest it stop working and behave as this one is now.
[14:34] <llutz_> }[o0]{: file  bugreport
[14:34] <}[o0]{> i am.
[14:34] <tobier> Chotaz`W: haven't tried my xbox controller, but it probably works
[14:34] <almoxarife> shift+lksdljsdkjlskdjl: rules are for trolls, no clear policy!
[14:34] <_jason> }[o0]{: seems to me like if you have jackd2, it should not pull in jackd1
[14:34] <_jason> almoxarife: stop please
[14:34] <}[o0]{> yet it does.
[14:34] <}[o0]{> anyway. take it to the glorious leaders.
[14:34] <teemo> im trying to run an older version of unetbootin (494), on ubuntu 11.10, everytime i try to run it i get: error while loading shared libraries: libXrandr.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:35] <llutz_> }[o0]{: apt-cache depends qjackctl    shows no jack1-dependencies here (10.10)
[14:35] <mouse> I've got a usb controller and I would like to modify it's button layout globally.  How do I go about this?
[14:35] <_jason> llutz_: also installing "jackd" simply pulls in jackd2, no jackd1 but I guess he's left now
[14:35] <llutz_> what a loss
[14:35] <Kurdistan> hi ffmeg update have been released. does ubuntu stand for the update or will it be any for 11.10?
[14:36] <teemo> i installed lxrandr from package manager, but im still getting the error, do i need to restart after installing a package?
[14:37] <JuJuBee> almoxarife: do you have any good resources I can read?  I have some old DELL's in my school and am looking at making a computer lab using lubuntu.  We currently have a windows (Active Directory) network and it would be nice to share the documents and authentication
[14:40] <bf4648> Does anyone know how I can get firefox to play mp4s?
[14:40] <almoxarife> JuJuBee: for the second part of your question, to access a file server(ftpd) one needs a ftp client, there are too many to mention(filezilla)
[14:40] <atvr> almoxarife, hey man, i want to make a partition off 150gb on my primary (only) hdd, can i do that with KDE partition manager, and if so does that will break my os
[14:41] <aljosa> i can't connect to ftp server, tried using gnome and kde apps. any idea what can cause this on system level? transmit app on mac osx works w/o problems so it's not server issue
[14:41] <cloudgeek> i have problem    NoMethodError in   Admin/dashboard#index      Showing /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/activeadmin-0.3.4/app/views/active_admin/dashboard/index.html.arb where line #1 raised:   undefined method `tasks' for #<AdminUser:0x7f5afb131868>   Extracted source (around line #1): 1: render view_factory.dashboard_page
[14:41] <cloudgeek> how to fix this error
[14:41] <cloudgeek> !!
[14:42] <almoxarife> atvr: if you have that much 'free' space, yes, if its not free then you have to use tools i am not up on
[14:43] <atvr> almoxarife, my hdd is 600gb so i thinks i have enough free space
[14:43] <atvr> almoxarife, in kde partition manager do i have to unmount the drive before resize it ??
[14:44] <almoxarife> atvr: not sure, i would guess 'yes'
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> atvr  basically, you cannot modify mounted partitions
[14:47] <teemo> how do i stop the unity sidebar from auto-hiding?
[14:48] <atvr> MonkeyDust, yeah i realized that, the device is in use so i cant,, but is there a way to do it without a livecd ?
[14:48] <armor-64> hi i wnat to ask if i will have a problem with 2 gpu in crossfire mode under ubuntu!and if it's possible to not install the video drivers...
[14:49] <almoxarife> atvr: usb
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> teemo  install ccsm, there, choose desktop, unity plugin
[14:50] <atvr> almoxarife, does the alternative live cd would do the job ?
[14:50] <teemo> MonkeyDust: how do i install ccsm?
[14:51] <tobier> atvr: you can get a GPARTED live usb image on their website
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> teemo  it's in the repos
[14:51] <carlos-> ola
[14:51] <carlos-> gostaria de uma ajuda
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> !pt| carlos-
[14:52] <almoxarife> how do i make quassel beep on my nick? and detach the channel windows?
[14:53] <armor-64> ok
[14:53] <armor-64> questin here
[14:53] <armor-64> hi i wnat to ask if i will have a problem with 2 gpu in crossfire mode under ubuntu!and if it's possible to not install the video drivers...
[14:53] <llutz_> almoxarife: #quassel
[14:54] <KrisDouglas> armor-64, I would recommend having the drivers installed if at all possible, it's very simple to do and usually works fine with most ATI cards as long as you're using the Binary driver.
[14:54] <teemo> MonkeyDust: from package manager or software center, and is that simple ccsm?
[14:55] <KrisDouglas> armor-64, cannot guarantee how well the ATI cards in crossfire will work.
[14:55] <xangua> !ccsm | teemo
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> teemo  you can use the software installer, CCSM is the config panel for Compiz
[14:55] <armor-64> krisdouglas:binary driver????you mean the pre installed driver of first use?
[14:55] <om26er> !test
[14:56] <shruggar> can I re-install ubuntu on top of an existing installation without losing, eg, my home directory?
[14:56] <armor-64> shruggar: yes you can
[14:57] <llutz_> shruggar: if you have /home on extra partition, yes
[14:57] <xangua> shruggar: only if you have home on it's own partition
[14:57] <snimavat> does ubuntu support optimus now ?
[14:57] <Jordan_U> snimavat: Not well.
[14:57] <shruggar> so, "no"
[14:58] <snimavat> i left ubuntu around one year back because of this, checking back now
[14:58] <snimavat> whats the alternative ?
[14:58] <c0n> How can I run speakers and earphones at the same time on Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:58] <almoxarife> llutz_: funny, i dont see so much of that for the 'cli/terminal/apache' geeky questions, how come?
[14:58] <teemo> MonkeyDust: thx i got it
[14:58] <llutz_> shruggar: tar --one-file-system -cpf /somewhere/myhome.tar $HOME
[14:58] <Jordan_U> shruggar: They are incorrect. Ubuntu's installer can allow you to install preserving your home directory even if it's not on a separate partition.
[14:58] <snimavat> I have nvidia gt525m, i want ubuntu, if i can get it working without much pain
[14:59] <Kurdistan> any one with idea of to get mic working with nvidia hdmi?
[14:59] <Kurdistan> does not work with sound recorder
[14:59] <snimavat> whats the alternative to optimus ?
[14:59] <xangua> Jordan_U: since when¿ didn't knew
[15:00] <Kurdistan> snimavat, search for hybrid card linux.
[15:00] <Kurdistan> you will find out
[15:00] <snimavat> BTW: does any one knw if ubuntu is working on getting optimus work ?
[15:00] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: the mic is hdmi'ed how?
[15:00] <teemo> i set it to never hide the launcher and it still gets hiddne
[15:00] <gribouille> why doesn't `source <TAB>` list all the files that can be sourced with bash?
[15:00] <KrisDouglas> armor-64, the binary driver is the one from the ATI website
[15:00] <Jordan_U> xangua: It's been possible using the manual partitioning menus of the installer since 10.04 IIRC, and I believe it's offered as a more automated option with 11.10.
[15:00] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, http://ubuntu-se.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=55634
[15:01] <Kurdistan> you can  look
[15:01] <Kurdistan> snimavat, there are ppa that can give you that.
[15:01] <armor-64> krisDouglas:ok thanks i check that when they will deliver me the second vga.
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> snimavat  what is optimus?
[15:01] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: lucky me i can translate swedish
[15:01] <KrisDouglas> OK :)
[15:01] <Kurdistan> read more here: http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/
[15:02] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, it would be nice if you can help me help him.
[15:02] <snimavat> MonkeyDust: its a graphics card technology
[15:03] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: i have hdmi/nvidia, how is the mic associated with the video?
[15:03] <biginttosh> teemo, thanks for skype help it works now
[15:03] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: i have hdmi/nvidia, how is the mic associated with the video?/graphics
[15:04] <blitz> there is usually a sound driver associated with the hdmi out
[15:04] <biginttosh> teemo, but the main problem still exists, that is whenever skype icon is clicked it initiates a new instance of application without checking whether one already exists or not
[15:04] <KrisDouglas> almoxarife, usually if you have nvidia onboard you have an nvidia soundcard which is associated with the HDMI
[15:04] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, I think it external mic.
[15:05] <KrisDouglas> almoxarife, or at least a compatible soundcard. Usually the mic port on your machine is for the microphone though, just ensure you don't have hdmi selected under recording devices
[15:05] <almoxarife> KrisDouglas: yeap, sound out, has hdmi started feeding back to the comp?
[15:05] <biginttosh> teemo, and this bug must be from skype code.
[15:06] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, http://ubuntu-se.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=55634&start=40 here he writes information
[15:06] <blitz> thats in another language
[15:07] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, http://ubuntu-se.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=55634&start=20 also here you have command line output
[15:07] <biginttosh> teemo, perhaps skype is designed to handle multiple instances and logins
[15:07] <xangua> biginttosh: there is a pugin to integrate skype to the messsage indicator so you don't have to run from the skype icon in the launcher/dash
[15:08] <biginttosh> brb, thanks xangua
[15:08] <biginttosh> exit
[15:08] <tietokone> moro.oletko paikalla
[15:09] <gribouille> why doesn't `source <TAB>` list all the files that can be sourced with bash?
[15:09] <llutz_> gribouille: does here, do you have bash-completion installed?
[15:09] <gribouille> llutz_, of course
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> gribouille  press tab twice
[15:10] <blitz> it just lists files in the current directory
[15:10] <gribouille> llutz_, does it list the files in $PATH ot the files in the current directory?
[15:10] <llutz_> gribouille: current dir
[15:11] <gribouille> llutz_, that's not enough. when you source a file, bash looks in $PATH
[15:11] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: unless you cracked the hdmi code, hdmi is a one trip, comp>monitor
[15:11] <llutz_> gribouille: why should it?
[15:11] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, how do you mean?
[15:13] <gribouille> llutz_, what do you mean?
[15:13] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, you mean that he should try disable his hdmi?
[15:13] <llutz_> gribouille: files in $PATH are scripts/binaries, why should bash search THERE for files to source?
[15:13] <gribouille> llutz_, that's what is specified in the manual page for bash
[15:14] <_jason> llutz_, gribouille: « help source » does say it search $PATH.  On my install, tab does not list things in $PATH when completing after "source".  Works ok in zsh though ;)
[15:14] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: easy example, take a ps3(hdmi) connect it to a computer, nothing there!, no output to the pc from the ps3, just because there is a mic plug attached to a nvidia/hdmi card does not mean the hdmi cable is sending the mic output back to the pc via hdmi
[15:15] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, I do not have hdmi so :) I am not well known how it works.
[15:15] <Kurdistan> do you mean he should disconnect second monitor/tv and then try?
[15:15] <gribouille> _jason, is there a reason why it doesn't work for bash?
[15:15] <gribouille> is it possible to specify long options in the #! line of a bash script?
[15:16] <_jason> gribouille: I don't know if it just hasn't been written or if it's a setting or if something is just broken
[15:16] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: no, that mic is like any other mic, the system has to see it, and then it needs to be the default to be used for what ever it is that he is doing
[15:18] <Night-hacks> does anyone knows what's dive-log ?
[15:18] <BussDriver> any theming experts?  I desperately want to change the color of my inactive window title backgrounds.. they're black and the text is a very dark gray... I'd prefer them to be a very light gray so the text and window are both easier to see.. but I don't know where to change this!  Help please :)
[15:20] <Kurdistan> k
[15:20] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, sorry my internet connection was gone.
[15:20] <Kurdistan> did you write anything new?
[15:20] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: i dont think so
[15:21] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: no, that mic is like any other mic, the system has to see it, and then it needs to be the default to be used for what ever it is that he is doing
[15:21] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, it sees the mic.
[15:21] <Kurdistan> it worked for him before
[15:21] <Kurdistan> but then suddently it did not
[15:22] <ThisIsJon> hello
[15:22] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: working or not, dont fixate on hdmi to fix a mic issue, hdmi is a one way trip, > out to a monitor
[15:23] <Kurdistan> almoxarife, so you do not think it is hdmi related?
[15:23] <ThisIsJon> off-topic, but does anyone know which channel can i go to to ask about stuff on hacking?
[15:24] <ThisIsJon> i'm solving a puzzle (: and im stuck at the last step which is to decrypt a small rar file which is like 12byte in size
[15:24] <almoxarife> Kurdistan: a mic issue, no, a mic issue is just that, mic trouble shoot
[15:24] <llutz_> !alis | ThisIsJon
[15:24] <ThisIsJon> llutz_: thanks (:
[15:25] <tidux> how do I get Unity to remember my Bluetooth settings?
[15:25] <tidux> in KDE 4.7 or GNOME Shell, if I disable bluetooth, bluetoothd remembers that and disables bluetooth as soon as the daemon starts
[15:25] <tidux> Unity just blithely starts it every time
[15:25] <marcin> siema
[15:25] <trijntje> Hi all, I'm getting Xserver crashes on oneiric when the system is under heavy load, xorg.log can be found herehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/793843/. Can someone have a look and point me in the right direction, I have no experience with X server problems
[15:26] <dragonslay> `
[15:26] <marcin> pisze tu ktos po polsku ?
[15:26] <llutz_> !pl
[15:26] <tidux> trijntje: it looks like the X binary itself is segfaulting
[15:28] <motzmo> nubs
[15:28] <trijntje> tidux: so should I just report a bux agains X, nothing else to do?
[15:29] <dragonslay> pksadiq: shortcut to open pm window
[15:29] <pksadiq> C-c b, I think, not sure
[15:29] <tidux> trijntje: yeah
[15:30] <dragonslay> b
[15:31] <trijntje> tidux: ok, thanks
[15:34] <mistawac> Hello...anyone active?
[15:34] <mistawac> Hello...anyone active?
[15:35] <compdoc> who wants to know?
[15:35] <mistawac> A little birdy...
[15:35] <compdoc> then, nope
[15:35] <sheepz> hello,  Cannot find codec for audio format 0x726D6173.
[15:35] <mistawac> A little ferret?
[15:35] <compdoc> have an issue?
[15:35] <sheepz> any ideas what package I might need?
[15:36] <sheepz> (10.04 LTS)
[15:36] <mistawac> I do, I'm getting a fatal error when I try to use ma sendmail command..
[15:36] <mistawac> Can't figure out wtf went FUBAR
[15:36] <compdoc> hmm, Im no expert with that. I like nullmailer because its so simple
[15:37] <mistawac> I've heard that about six times...how simple is simple?
[15:37] <compdoc> I use it only for sending messages to me, like when there's updates available
[15:37] <mistawac> I just need to be able to email through a smarthost.
[15:37] <Masahiro> how do i run a sh script in a new gnome-terminal window ? i can't figure it out
[15:37] <mistawac> That's all I really need it for.
[15:37] <mistawac> ./script_name
[15:37] <mistawac> ./script_name.sh
[15:37] <llutz_> mistawac: msmtp/ssmtp/nullmailer
[15:37] <compdoc> mistawac, what mail package you using?
[15:37] <mistawac> postfix
[15:38] <compdoc> mistawa, thats a hard one to configure, but Ive done it. maybe we could compare conf files
[15:38] <mistawac> I've been told this...is nullmailer REALLY that much easier?
[15:38] <llutz_> mistawac: sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix (answer the questions, select site with smarthost)
[15:38] <Masahiro> in a new window mistawac
[15:39] <compdoc> I think I made one change to one line in nullmailer, and it worked
[15:39] <mistawac> With a smarthost?
[15:39] <mistawac> Also, sorry if any of my questions seem vague or basic.  I have little to no experience with setting up email
[15:39] <compdoc> I use a local email server. Local meaning on my lan
[15:39] <mistawac> crap
[15:40] <mistawac> well I'll give it a try
[15:40] <mistawac> also
[15:40] <mistawac> anyone use citadel?
[15:40] <nvz> I am trying to PXE boot from this ubuntu natty machine, and I installed and configured tftpd-hpa and isc-dhcp-server but running tftpd as a service or from commandline seems to fail to make the server listen
[15:40] <nvz> I do not see anything listening with netstat, and I dont get any tftp from the PXE booting machine
[15:41] <compdoc> mistawac, do you have mail utils installed? so you have the 'mail' command?
[15:42] <mistawac> This is probably going to upset you, but I honestly have no idea.  Let me check right quick...
[15:42] <nvz> I dont even see any info running in.tftpd -4 -vsL --address 0.0.0.0:69 /srv/tftpd
[15:42] <mistawac> huh, I did not
[15:42] <mistawac> lemme install those
[15:43] <nvz> no syslog, nothing.. I have no clue what its doing but its not serving tftp on port 69
[15:43] <compdoc> mistawac, just type mail in a term window
[15:43] <mistawac> did so
[15:43] <compdoc> k
[15:43] <mistawac> told me to install that shit
[15:43] <mistawac> I've set up just about anything else in Linux, but never email.
[15:43] <mistawac> This has been breaking my back all week.
[15:44] <mistawac> Okay...
[15:44] <mistawac> Got mailutils installed and nullmailer installed and pointed at my smarthost..
[15:44] <mistawac> Where are the config files for nullmailer?  /etc?
[15:46] <iceroot> mistawac: dpkg -L nullmailer   may help
[15:47] <mistawac> I think I done did that already, there was only one prompt to configure anything and that was my smarthost.
[15:47] <mistawac> oh damn
[15:47] <mistawac> nevermind
[15:47] <mistawac> thanks
[15:47] <mistawac> listed all that shit
[15:47] <FloodBot1> mistawac: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:47] <mistawac> ..stupid bot
[15:47] <Pici> mistawac: Please mind your language here as well.
[15:47] <compdoc> yes, use dpkg to configure
[15:47] <tidux> I found a bug in 11.10
[15:47] <tidux> where do I report it?
[15:48] <compdoc> but it should run the configure screens at install
[15:48] <Pici> tidux: http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[15:48] <tidux> k
[15:48] <DoctorD> it's a security bug @tidux
[15:48] <DoctorD> ?
[15:48] <tidux> for whatever reason, Unity/LightDM refuses to come back from suspend properly on a Dell Latitude E6410
[15:49] <DoctorD> do you think Ubuntu will it be support by Raspberry Pi ?
[15:49] <tidux> like the cursor comes back, and sometimes whatever was being displayed when the screen shut off
[15:49] <tidux> DoctorD: no, Ubuntu dropped support for ARMv6
[15:49] <tidux> Debian runs on the RasPi, though
[15:49] <mistawac> I can't get this thing to mail....tried sending a test mail with mail -s "Hey" me@email.com < message_body.txt
[15:49] <brad[]> Hi folks. I'm looking at linux-image-server and wanting to find a changelog of all revisions, not just the current one and the one that shipped with the distro release. Is there such a creature?
[15:49] <tidux> mistawac: I don't know if it has an MTA by default
[15:50] <DoctorD> well..maybe they would make something for this mini computer..i hope something like a LightVersion of Ubuntu
[15:50] <tidux> did you try installing Exim or Sendmail?
[15:50] <tidux> DoctorD: no, the packages are compiled for too recent a revision of ARM
[15:50] <mistawac> If I try to install either it wants to remove nullmailer
[15:50] <tidux> it'd be like trying to run code compiled for a Pentium III on a 486
[15:50] <Pici> brad[]: Have you tried looking at the package's entry on http://packages.ubuntu.com ?
[15:51] <DoctorD> @tidux - are you from Romania ?
[15:51] <tidux> no
[15:51] <tidux> USA
[15:51] <DoctorD> uhm..great ^_^
[15:51] <tidux> why'd you think I was from Romania?
[15:51] <DoctorD> you're username sound's familliar
[15:51] <DoctorD> :D
[15:51] <tidux> oh
[15:51] <tidux> well I have my nick registered on Freenode
[15:51] <DoctorD> :)
[15:51] <tidux> so if you hang out on #haiku you've probably seen me
[15:52] <tidux> or maybe #debian
[15:52] <DoctorD> :)
[15:52] <llutz_> mistawac: better to get nullmailer working, its config consists only of 1 line
[15:52] <DoctorD> oh..if i register my name, i will be the only who can use it ? with a password ?
[15:52] <tidux> wow, and I thought ssmtp was easy
[15:52] <mistawac> I'm tryin' right now, I'm just clueless in the field of email.
[15:53] <tidux> DoctorD: yeah, you authenticate after connecting to Freenode by /msg NickServ identify $PASSWORD
[15:53] <tidux> if you use irssi you can set that up to happen automatically
[15:53] <DoctorD> tidux: alright. thanks
[15:53] <llutz_> mistawac: sudo dpkg-reconfigure nullmailer
[15:53] <tidux> np
[15:53] <mistawac> I done that already.
[15:53] <llutz_> mistawac: obviously you did it wrong
[15:53] <mistawac> There are two boxes...
[15:53] <bobweaver> hello there I have a bunch of computers on my network I would like to be able to connect to them the same way that I do in natuilius under connectto network can I do this from the command line ?
[15:54] <tidux> bobweaver: NFS or Samba?
[15:54] <mistawac> Mailname of my system - that going to be my hostname?
[15:54] <bobweaver> not sure tidux
[15:54] <ikonia> bobweaver: you can connect them in a ton of ways, what would you like to be able to do
[15:54] <mistawac> {SystemName}.Domain.com
[15:54] <bobweaver> ikonia:  I weould like to be able to browse thje files run sed and awk against them
[15:55] <ikonia> bobweaver: ok - so there are a few wasys for this
[15:55] <llutz_> mistawac: /etc/nullmailer/remotes should contain something like: yoursmarthost.example.com smtp --user=youruser --pass=yourpass
[15:55] <bobweaver> ikonia:  thanks
[15:55] <mistawac> My smarthost has no auth
[15:55] <mistawac> it accepts anonymous logins
[15:55] <ikonia> bobweaver: the first one is just to connect to each machine you want with ssh, and run the commands you want, the second is to mount each machines on the others file systems eg: so /mnt/machine1, /mnt/machine2 on each machine
[15:55] <bobweaver> ikonia:  that is sweet
[15:56] <ikonia> but that's normally overkill, most people would just ssh to the machines they want and run the commands.
[15:56] <llutz_> mistawac: spammers welcome
[15:56] <tidux> bobweaver: sshfs is pretty sweet
[15:56] <mistawac> I didn't set it up...
[15:56] <bobweaver> ssh -p 22 name@domain
[15:56] <mistawac> I was hired into this hell.
[15:56] <bobweaver> like that ?
[15:56] <ikonia> bobweaver: just "ssh hostname"
[15:56] <tidux> as long as the remote system's running sshd, you can mount directories on the remote system to your local file system
[15:56] <bobweaver> ikonia:  sweet
[15:56] <ikonia> bobweaver: don't need -p
[15:57] <tidux> like sshfs user@host:/path/to/remote/directory /path/to/local/mountpoint
[15:57] <bobweaver> ikonia:  you are right 22 is the default po\rt right ?:
[15:57] <tidux> and then just cd to the local mountpoint
[15:57] <bobweaver> woops
[15:57] <ikonia> bobweaver: correct
[15:57] <bobweaver> "default port "
[15:57] <bobweaver> thanks ikonia
[15:57] <gandhijee_> hey, i am trying to cross compile something on my ubntu 64 bit machine for x86-32
[15:58] <gandhijee_> and everytime it tries to link it fails because it built 64bit objects, and ideas?
[15:58] <ikonia> gandhijee_: have you made a 32bit toolchain
[15:58] <bobweaver> ikonia:  thanks here is some music :>) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bVDQ4rVrM4
[15:58] <gandhijee_> ikonia, well the 64bit compile should be able to do it with -m32 flag
[15:58] <ikonia> bobweaver: you know the rules, so please don't flaunt them
[15:58] <ikonia> bobweaver: please don't post silly offtopic things in this channel
[15:59] <bobweaver> ikonia:  no prob thanks
[15:59] <ikonia> gandhijee_: not if you don't have the 32bit libraries in place and the linker is set to read them
[16:00] <gandhijee_> ikonia, ubuntu provides those utils - the ia32 libs ect
[16:01] <ikonia> is the linker set to use them though before you actually issues the "make" or "gcc -m32" command
[16:02] <Delfyn> i'm trying to edit a page in the community wiki. I login without problems, but when i click on the "show editing options" at the bottom right, the only link that is displayed is "Logout". Is this just for me or is this a general problem? In case it is relevant: I've tried this on the OpenVPN page, the Grub2 page and trying to create a new page. Can anybody confirm the same behaviour or confirm that they see other links in the editing options section please
[16:02] <linuxearth> hey guys
[16:02] <linuxearth> i installed ubuntu
[16:03] <linuxearth> how can i learn linux?
[16:03] <_jason> linuxearth: use your ubuntu :)
[16:03] <linuxearth> ok
[16:03] <ikonia> linuxearth: https://help.ubuntu.com - try some of the basics and progress
[16:03] <mistawac> http://www.google.com
[16:03] <linuxearth> i mean for commands what i do?
[16:03] <llutz_> !manual | linuxearth
[16:03] <jajang> it's a good advice
[16:03] <linuxearth> oh
[16:03] <linuxearth> ok
[16:03] <linuxearth> ty
[16:04] <mistawac> I'm going to punt this server out my window..
[16:04] <mistawac> I can't get this thing to email through my smarthost and I don't know why.
[16:05] <llutz_> mistawac: checked logs?
[16:05] <mistawac> they aren't revealing much
[16:05] <tidux> mistawac: port blocking, I bet
[16:05] <mistawac> I have my firewall turned off.
[16:05] <tidux> most residential connections block 25
[16:05] <tidux> at the ISP end
[16:05] <mistawac> at least on the linux machinet
[16:05] <mistawac> this isn't residential
[16:05] <tidux> oh
[16:05] <tidux> well crap, then I have no idea
[16:06] <mistawac> It's sitting in a datacenter where our windows mailserver has no problems mailing.
[16:06] <mistawac> Yeah, I'm lost...
[16:06] <mistawac> Last entry in mail.log:
[16:07] <mistawac> nullmailer[6525]: Starting delivery: protocol: smtp host: 165.212.65.113 file: 132
[16:07] <mistawac> Then it mails nothing to me.
[16:07] <llutz_> mistawac: have you tested smtp manually per telnet?
[16:07] <Humbedooh> silly question: how do I kill a process that won't die even if I send sigkill?
[16:07] <mistawac> I haven't...is that telnet localhost -p 25?
[16:07] <tidux> mistawac: http://sprunge.us/EWFB?sh
[16:07] <llutz_> mistawac: telnet yoursmarthost 25
[16:07] <tidux> little shell script for using a pastebin equivalent
[16:08] <Delfyn> humbedooh when you do 'ps fax' and search for your process, what state is the process in? Is it 'D'?
[16:08] <mistawac> tidux: what is that?
[16:08] <tidux> little shell script for using a pastebin equivalent
[16:08] <tidux> just put it in ~/bin and type "sprunge foo"
[16:08] <Humbedooh> no, it's still R
[16:08] <subdesign> hi, how to reuse a generated (current time added) filename in the same crontab command?
[16:08] <tidux> or "foo | bar | baz | sprunge"
[16:09] <lobo_> hola
[16:09] <Delfyn> you're sure you're the owner and you tried 'kill -9 <pid>'   ?
[16:09] <lobo_> alguien conectado?
[16:09] <Humbedooh> I'm root and yes, I've tried both 9 and 15
[16:09] <mistawac> telnetting to my smarthost aint workin
[16:09] <mistawac> so there's an issue
[16:09] <llutz_> mistawac: telnet yoursmarthost 587
[16:09] <Delfyn> and you're sure its not dying ... its not that its just restarting again? :-)
[16:10] <mistawac> wait
[16:10] <mistawac> if I sudo it then I connect
[16:10] <Humbedooh> it's retaining the pid, so :p
[16:10] <Delfyn> ok ... hmm
[16:10] <Humbedooh> ah, finally they died themselves
[16:10] <llutz_> mistawac: that makes no sense
[16:10] <mistawac> well...no, it doesn't
[16:10] <mistawac> but I didn't design this
[16:10] <Humbedooh> thanks for the info though :)
[16:10] <llutz_> mistawac: lsb_release -sc
[16:10] <mistawac> okay
[16:11] <mistawac> stop the damn press
[16:11] <mistawac> I just started getting my emails ( the first of three I sent to test )
[16:11] <mistawac> 25 minutes later
[16:11] <Shvelo> Hello
[16:11] <Humbedooh> got damnit, they're back >_>
[16:11] <Shvelo> i want to install Ubuntu on my Asus Eee PC, with wubi
[16:12] <tidux> do it
[16:12] <Shvelo> is it a good idea?
[16:12] <tidux> not as good as a full native install, but yes :P
[16:12] <Chotaz`W> Shvelo: why not a clean install?
[16:12] <tidux> What's it running now, Win7 starter? XP?
[16:12] <Shvelo> i cant install native because i don't have a large flash
[16:12] <who_me> Shvelo, what do you do on the Eee PC usually ?
[16:12] <Shvelo> internet, skype
[16:13] <tidux> yeah, Skype for Linux is crap
[16:13] <tidux> since Microsoft bought it at least
[16:13] <Chotaz`W> tidux: yep.
[16:13] <Shvelo> it was crap
[16:13] <who_me> internet as in, instant messaging, facebook-ing , browsing ?
[16:14] <Shvelo> yea
[16:14] <Humbedooh> meh, gotta reboot the computer I guess, that damn Apache just won't die >_>
[16:14] <DoctorD> do you think home hosting is a good solution?
[16:14] <tidux> for what?
[16:15] <mistawac> Hey guys, question and this may not be answerable, but here goes...
[16:15] <Shvelo> can i install ubuntu from 2GB flash drive?
[16:15] <DoctorD> let's say..for some website with no big traffic
[16:15] <tidux> Shvelo: well you can install it from a 700MB CD-R so I hope so
[16:15] <DoctorD> websites*
[16:15] <Shvelo> no it's not
[16:15] <Shvelo> ok
[16:15] <tidux> no, most home connections block Port 80
[16:15] <mistawac> The long delay in reception of emails...would that be related to my server or the smarthost it's sending through?
[16:15] <who_me> Shvelo, yep, you can and it should be quite fast :)
[16:15] <DoctorD> well, my home connection is ok :). do you want to test it ? just to know if it works ?
[16:15] <tidux> mistawac: probably the smarthost
[16:15] <DoctorD> http://rop.sytes.net/
[16:15] <mistawac> ...that's no good.
[16:15] <llutz_> mistawac: check mailheaders
[16:15] <Shvelo> but if i ruin it (a big chance of doing it), i can't restore windows
[16:16] <Humbedooh> gah, even shutdown -r now doesn't work on this shitty machine >:(
[16:16] <DoctorD> tidux: works ?
[16:16] <mistawac> This is for notification of failed services through our network.  Can't have a 20-30 minute delay on that.
[16:16] <DoctorD> oh, forgot about changing some things.
[16:16] <DoctorD> wait a sec guys
[16:16] <who_me> Shvelo, what OS do you have on that Eee atm ?
[16:16] <Shvelo> it came with Windows 7 Home Premuim
[16:17] <who_me> Shvelo, got an external drive ? use Windows' backup utility to image your current setup to it, then install away :)
[16:18] <saml> hey
[16:18] <saml> whats command
[16:18] <saml> for printer finder?
[16:18] <Shvelo> i don't have an external drive
[16:18] <Shvelo> can i boot windows recovery from usb?
[16:18] <DoctorD> ok. now i think it might work: http://rop.sytes.net/
[16:18] <xyz111> Hi I needed some help with bind9 on ubuntu - is this the right place to ask?
[16:18] <DoctorD> xyz111: yes, ask here, someone will help you
[16:18] <llutz_> mistawac: check mailheaders and logs to get your answer
[16:19] <who_me> Shvelo, ouch! This is also a bad time to buy drives, they're stupidly expensive :/
[16:19] <mistawac> llutz_ : how do I check headers and what am I looking for in both?
[16:19] <makara> hey. could some kind soul with an updated 11.10 zip up their /usr/share/X11/xkb/ folder and send it to me please?
[16:19] <DoctorD> so..it is working ?
[16:20] <llutz_> mistawac: you should know how to read your mails (check for Received: lines)  and compare the times
[16:20] <who_me> DoctorD, I can;t connect to it
[16:20] <xyz111> DoctorD: thanks. I'm trying to configure my own name server, however when I follow the instructions at (http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/11/07/how-to-setup-a-dns-server-in-ubuntu/) and restart, I simply get a fail for the restart but no explanation as to what caused the fail! Could someone tell me where the log files, if any, for bind are located?! Thanks
[16:20] <Shvelo> well , i can create a separate partitiion for backup
[16:21] <DoctorD> who_me: maybe has not been updated yet.
[16:21] <mistawac> llutz_: thought you meant something more complicated...looks like it was received on time, maybe it was the delay between gmail and my work email host
[16:21] <Pumpkin-> xyz111: check /var/log/daemon.log
[16:21] <Shvelo> i just couldn't get windows recovery to boot from usb
[16:21] <DoctorD> xyz111: did you tryied a restart of the ubuntu ?
[16:21] <saml> what package has gnome-print-manager?
[16:22] <who_me> DoctorD, works now :) Who's Ionica ? :P
[16:22] <DoctorD> no one, it's just a simple webpage
[16:22] <xyz111> Pumpkin-: thanks - gives me what I need!
[16:22] <llutz_> mistawac: which you could check if you read the mail. every hop should have its own "received:" block
[16:22] <DoctorD> :)
[16:23] <llutz_> mistawac: but sorry if this is too easy for you
[16:23] <mistawac> llutz_: I'm a bit inexperienced with email, gimme a break here.  I'm trying not to be obnoxious and I want this done as much as you don't want to hear stupid questions.
[16:24] <who_me> Shvelo, have you tried running Ubuntu from the flash disk ? I mean without installing it ?
[16:25] <who_me> DoctorD, what kind of site do you want to host ?
[16:25] <DoctorD> who_me: well, not a big one of course, something smaller, for my projects..maybe a blog or something similar
[16:26] <who_me> DoctorD, got a dedicated machine for it or running in a VM ?
[16:26] <DoctorD> i was interested in developing a teeworld server..but i'm still thinking if it will be used by someone
[16:26] <Shvelo> no
[16:26] <DoctorD> no, i have a laptop that i don't use it for big things
[16:27] <Shvelo> i'm now trying to make an iso of windows recovery
[16:27] <makara> DoctorD: if you want to be useful setup a seedbox
[16:27] <DoctorD> makara: heh..for what ? no warez or anything similar
[16:27] <who_me> DoctorD, for ubuntu ofc
[16:27] <makara> ofc
[16:28] <DoctorD> who_me: hm..a good idea..not bad..i will see :)
[16:28] <wmp> hello, is possible to install in 11.10 kernel 3.2 from package? If yes, wher i can found package?
[16:28] <dr_willis> Shvelo:  MS has recovery/restore ISO's you can download.  for windows 7.
[16:28] <Shvelo> i can make one
[16:29] <who_me> makara, I might just be doing that too, got an old  ep31-ds3l mobo with a core2duo e7400 cpu and I think 4GB of ram... it;s going to take care of routing but I think I'll be able to squeeze some seeding on there :)
[16:30] <who_me> got a case for it to, just waiting for a bargain-bin factory refurb HDD to arrive\
[16:30] <DoctorD> what do you about D-Link DIR-600 wireless router ?
[16:30] <DoctorD> think *
[16:31] <wmp> #ubuntu-kernel
[16:31] <DoctorD> i have it since today and untill now works fine.
[16:31] <who_me> DoctorD, I was just about to smash my trendnet 632BP to pieces, awful piece of rubbish that it is... I believe the DIR-600 is related :)
[16:31] <DoctorD> yes, it's kinda new
[16:31] <DoctorD> but my hardware version is B5, so it doesn't support Open WRT or DD-WRT
[16:32] <DoctorD> hope it will be something custom for this
[16:32] <Dynamit> D-link juuuck the D-link's i hade threw the time have everyone after about 1year get overheated every dam 4H and after a while every 2H
[16:32] <DoctorD> so..if you buy one, make sure it is B2
[16:32] <DoctorD> the HW: B2
[16:32] <DoctorD> dynamit: overheated :))? what D-Link ?
[16:33] <DoctorD> mine has no problems right now and it's up for about 10 hours
[16:33] <Dynamit> Yes overheated D-Link 3 different D-Link router's
[16:33] <Dynamit> wait 1-2 years with 24/7 load and you will see
[16:33] <DoctorD> alright. we will see. :)
[16:33] <DoctorD> what do you think about CISCO routers ?
[16:34] <faux_sho> I think they're off-topic, personally.
[16:34] <Dynamit> my average network load is about 2-3MiB/s per min
[16:34] <Dynamit> CISCO i haven't try
[16:34] <DoctorD> :)
[16:34] <slinkp> under unity on 11.10, using laptop + external monitor, the laptop screen dims in the middle of use but the external stays bright; can't find a way to un-dim it without logging out/in; dimming is turned off in preferences. Anybody else seen this?
[16:34] <Dynamit> i use Linksys now
[16:35] <DoctorD> faux_sho: i think we can talk anything since it's around linux area
[16:35] <Pici> !ot
[16:35] <dopamine5ht> cisco pain in the ass ..setup ubuntu server box to do it more customizable, but little more complexed
[16:35] <Dynamit> openwrt is based on Linux
[16:36] <Dynamit> and can use Ubuntu as a base
[16:37] <DoctorD> a game similar to Xboing II from ubuntu software center ?
[16:38] <brad[]> Argh. Someone replied but it's already out of my scrollback. :<
[16:39] <Dynamit> check in ubuntu log then brad[]
[16:39] <slinkp> Hm. I'm not finding any other screen-dimming settings in advanced settings nor compizconfig settings manager.
[16:40] <DoctorD> Does someone know a game similar to XBoing II
[16:41] <RingZer01> Can ubuntu facilitate an internet based network drive mount?  I am mounting via ftp.
[16:42] <quiescens> probably
[16:42] <RingZer01> the problem I am having is users cannot write to the network mount
[16:43] <mistawac> Hey guys
[16:43] <mistawac> got it working
[16:43] <mistawac> so thanks a ton for the help, really
[16:43] <RingZer01> Host (Win7) :: Guest (ubuntu) :: User netdrive :: user home /home/netdrive/ :: I did mount --bind /share-win7-mount/ /home/netdrive/
[16:43] <RingZer01> the share is mounted via cifs
[16:43] <RingZer01> and for some reason, only root can write it
[16:44] <makara> I messed keyboard layouts folder. No way back I don think. Know the instructions to reinstall X11 from tty1?
[16:44] <dopamine5ht> oh you probably have to check the uid its mounted under hummm..
[16:44] <RingZer01> do I need to modify my fstab to mount rw for all users somehow?
[16:44] <robbbie> no quicktime plugin for chrome?
[16:44] <dopamine5ht> uhh... one uid per mount, best bet use an automounter, ugg.
[16:45] <RingZer01> my mount looks like: //192.168.1.9/ci$       /ci     cifs    rw,username=r0,password=Xyz  0       0
[16:47] <dopamine5ht> RingZero: need something like uid=client_user,gid=users  in there
[16:48] <quiescens> i don't even know how we got from the question about ftp to cifs
[16:48] <bespals> хай брозеры
[16:48] <bespals> наличие рашн есть?
[16:48] <dopamine5ht> RingZer01: otherwise like you said... root..
[16:48] <bespals> хэй давайте кидать зиги \о
[16:48]  * slinkp resists trolling against unity urge 
[16:51] <dopamine5ht> ftpfs mounts are kinda in userland and crude and nasty. Not recommended for production use you could try many userland stuff like apt-get install curlftpfs
[16:51] <bespals> Hey guys , I'm confused. On my desktop with 2.8 Ghz(Celeron) i have a lags if i turn on mplayer on ubuntu. On slackware mplayer not laged, but i have problem with  Cyrilic subs. What you can should?
[16:51] <makara> bespals: use VLC
[16:54] <spaes> Just installed Ubuntu 11.10/Oneiric. When I try to add a network printer the only option available is PDF. is there a package I am missing? I want to use IPP (internet printing protocol)
[16:55] <jtrucks> what's the safest/best way to change my MTU on the fly and where to I set that in the config files?
[16:55] <RingZer01> dopamine5ht: thank you for your hlep.
[16:56] <RingZer01> dopamine5ht: curlftpfs looks good for linux, i need w*ndows clients to us eit tho
[16:57] <RingZer01> dopamine5ht: it appears as though adding users to the opts will work
[16:57] <iceroot> jtrucks: imo you can only have one mta installed, dpkg will do the rest (but i am not 100% sure)
[16:58] <jtrucks> jtrucks: MTU. network setting. not MTA
[16:58] <iceroot> jtrucks: ah, mtu not mta
[16:58] <jtrucks> :)
[16:58] <jtrucks> my mail works great
[16:58] <iceroot> jtrucks: ifconfig directly
[16:59] <jtrucks> so I dug that out, but what file is it set in?
[16:59] <Pici> jtrucks: /etc/network/interfaces
[16:59] <jtrucks> I'm more familiar with RHEL based distros for that.
[16:59] <jtrucks> okay thanks, Pici
[16:59] <spaes> nevermind, just realized that it was an issue with gnome-shell (which opens up gnome-printers instead of system-config-printer)
[16:59] <who_me> another win for Gnome 3 :P
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[17:01] <bespals> hardware update is not exist
[17:02] <bespals> 445 socket have not processor 2 quad)
[17:02] <ghost_> hi does anyone know hak5
[17:03] <who_me> ghost_, you talking about that rather bad youtube show ?
[17:03] <ghost_> jeah
[17:03] <ghost_> yeah
[17:03] <Pici> !offtopic
[17:03] <ghost_> it's bad
[17:07] <robbbie> sometimes unity puts an additional taskbar at the top of my chrome windows, basically chrome already has the taskbar with tabs, close/min/max icons so i'd rather remove the unity one. strange sometimes its not there however
[17:08] <realsifo777> Helo
[17:08] <realsifo777> Helo
[17:09] <benbloom> yes realsifo777
[17:09] <realsifo777> Hi
[17:09] <hroi> hi
[17:09] <robbbie> anyone know how to get rid of the extra unity title bar ?
[17:09] <hroi> I have some large bzip2 files
[17:10] <benbloom> do you need support with something realsifo777?
[17:10] <hroi> I dont want to decompress them in-place , which is default behaviour of bunzip2
[17:10] <realsifo777> Is amd radeon driver aviable?
[17:10] <hroi> I want to bunzip2 to another directory
[17:10] <hroi> I looked at the bzip2 manpages, and I dont see this option
[17:10] <BussDriver> realsifo777: what do you mean?  there's a built-in open source radeon driver
[17:11] <realsifo777> The new propiertary one
[17:11] <captainfixerpc14> hroi, keep it simple - put the files into the folder you want them in - and extract there
[17:11] <realsifo777> Need for gnome3
[17:12] <llutz_> hroi: if bunzip really has no such option, "cd /where/to/extract" "bunzip -d path/to/file.bz"
[17:13] <hroi> captainfixerpc14: thanks, Ok,   btw... do you know when a large file actually materializes in a target folder when using mv*?
[17:13] <hroi> mv?
[17:13] <benbloom> !fglrx | realsifo777
[17:13] <hroi> captainfixerpc14: I hope it doesnt materialize slowly
[17:13] <realsifo777> Anyone?
[17:14] <realsifo777> Are nvidia gpi better for gnome 3?
[17:15] <realsifo777> Radeon still error in gnome3
[17:15] <realsifo777> Gpu
[17:15] <BussDriver> realsifo777: the built-in open source radeon driver is great in 11.10
[17:15] <BussDriver> realsifo777: I can run three monitors from my laptop with compiz running flawlessly
[17:16] <BussDriver> realsifo777: all without any /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[17:16] <benbloom> no idea. i use kde realsifo777.
[17:16] <realsifo777> Yup but need catalyst
[17:16] <BussDriver> realsifo777: No, you don't
[17:16] <Pici> realsifo777: Perhaps if you provided what exact errors you were getting the folks here could help you better.
[17:17] <benbloom> but also i find that the builtin driver in 11.10  is better than the nvidia proprietary one
[17:17] <bespals> Ubuntu. minimal system requirements: 2 quad processor. End.
[17:17] <bigblowhard> is everyone still having trouble with FGLRX for ATI graphics in 11.10?
[17:18] <BussDriver> bigblowhard: yes
[17:18] <rp_> virtual box is OK?
[17:18] <bigblowhard> ok
[17:18] <Resistance> bespals:  actually Ubuntu can run on far less than that.  I recommend you read up on the system requirements.
[17:18] <bigblowhard> just making sure it's not just me
[17:18] <realsifo777> The menu is blurry
[17:18] <BussDriver> bigblowhard: I have strange artifacts in my title bars
[17:18] <bigblowhard> BussDriver, what does that mean?
[17:18] <bigblowhard> I wish I had a nug of chronic right now.
[17:19] <realsifo777> Kde run fins
[17:19] <BussDriver> bigblowhard: when I use fglrx, my window title bars are artifact-laden.  some fonts don't render properly either and are completely garbage
 )))) In official sys. req. of win7 says that we can install on 512 RAM and 2.0 proc. We can, but how it will be works?
[17:19] <Resistance> bespals:  that's win7.  not ubuntu.
[17:20] <Resistance> bespals:  win7, yes, dual core is strongly recommended.  Ubuntu can run on far less
[17:20] <realsifo777> Yup gnoms 3 is error
[17:20] <Resistance> bespals:  also... if we're delving into win7 discussion...
[17:20] <Resistance> !offtopic | bespals
[17:20] <bigblowhard> ah yes. I switched back to gnome in 11.10 and I get funny little idiosyncrasies (sp?) on the title bar too, and my icons are a little weird
[17:21] <realsifo777> Nvidia fine
[17:21] <bespals> ok)))
[17:22] <peryson> There is anything I can do to disable all animations on 11.10? My ATI Radeon card X1200 isn't supported and it's a bit sluggish in 2D mode.
[17:23] <realsifo777> This bugs is in gnome 3
[17:23] <bespals> amd+ATI radeon on PC's is less then intel+nvidia?
[17:24] <peryson> whatever, my card never had drivers for ubuntu, but on 10.04 I was better. Faster than 11.10
[17:24] <abramo> hey
[17:24] <realsifo777> No. Only the driver
[17:24] <abramo> beh_
[17:25] <abramo> what
[17:26] <peryson> why 11.10 is so sluggish?
[17:26] <peryson> even in 2D, it's a bit sluggish while surfing with Firefox and streaming videos online.
[17:27] <KrisDouglas> peryson, what card do you have?
[17:28] <realsifo777> Gnome2 the best
[17:28] <peryson> ATI Radeon X1200 I think.
[17:28] <peryson> realsifo777, I agree.
[17:30] <greg__> gfhg
[17:30] <greg__> hello i ve installed MakeHuman on Ubuntu 11.10 and it dont start
[17:31] <peryson> As I see noone knows about it.
[17:31] <greg__> hello i ve installed MakeHuman on Ubuntu 11.10 and it dont started$
[17:31] <greg__> hello i ve installed MakeHuman on Ubuntu 11.10 and it dont starte
[17:32] <ikonia> greg__: please stop repeating that question, it's close to spam
[17:32] <KrisDouglas> peryson, yes indeed, your card is classed as "legacy" now. It's most likely unity over-stressing it, not exactly the lightest frontend yet.
[17:32] <ikonia> greg__: if someone knows the answer and wants to help they will respond
[17:32] <greg__> im sorry <ikonia>
[17:33] <peryson> KrisDouglas, I hope that on LTS version things will go just fine as before.
[17:33] <peryson> Thanks KrisDouglas also for your time.
[17:33] <bespals> 4 mouth
[17:33] <bespals> so more
[17:34] <IngoPan> http://amzn.to/coupon2012   10€ Amazon Gutschein: h3b4c0
[17:34] <greg__> I have researched the internet and found nothing
[17:34] <ikonia> IngoPan: why are you pasting that ?
[17:34] <llutz_> spam
[17:34] <BussDriver> greg__: you just made me lol quite hard.. well done.
[17:36] <greg__> that is make human : http://www.makehuman.org/
[17:40] <cordoval> anyone knows how to get the logs from empathy of a chat?
[17:41] <cordoval> but for a text file
[17:41] <cordoval> in a text format
[17:42] <^NiNjA-PeNgUiN^> server paladin.tas.au.knightnet.net
[17:42] <^NiNjA-PeNgUiN^> ooops
[17:42] <Osmodivs_> Hello. I was trying to setup my PC sensors with sudo sensors-detect, all went well after it told me this: Monitoring programs won't work until the needed modules are loaded. You may want to run 'service module-init-tools start' to load them. Well, I did that "service module-init-tools start" And gave me the same message, ok, I tried this : "start module-init-tools" And gave me the same message, How do I activate this sens
[17:42] <Osmodivs_> ors?
[17:43] <Osmodivs_> Sorry: thi is the error message: service module-init-tools start
[17:43] <Osmodivs_> start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.75" (uid=1000 pid=9549 comm="start module-init-tools ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init"))
[17:45] <Jimmothy> Good evening. Do any of you have any experience with DSDT file errors?
[17:45] <y-chrmsm-adam> how to use Mint's better Gnome3 fork on ubuntu?
[17:45] <y-chrmsm-adam> I need to save face with this install.
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> y-chrmsm-adam  what do you want to do?
[17:48] <matt23> use mate?
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> y-chrmsm-adam  if you want to install Mint packages in Ubuntu, you need the Mint software sources
[17:48] <matt23> you can try Cinnamon too, but it's super new and pretty unstable i think
[17:48] <jen_> where can I get the latest version of photoshop?
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> jen_  photoshop is proprietary
[17:49] <jen_> what?
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> jen_  wrong channel
[17:49] <cak054> jen_ photoshop is for mac or windows only
[17:49] <jen_> I know
[17:49] <jen_> I have windows VB
[17:50] <GriGi> Hi, i got little problem :/. I installed wine and now my fonts on Firefox are weird -,-. I mean, they're different and i did not like them. I removed wine but weird fonts stayed. Maybe i should remove some packages that wine installed?
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> jen_  better ask in ##windows
[17:51] <GriGi> when wine was installing i saw that there was some package(s) with "font" or "type", how can i get rid of that fonts? That's really annoying for me :(.
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> GriGi  try deleting the firefox config files
[17:52] <jen_> and why does my virtualbox keep taking my XP file out so I cant start it up?
[17:52] <GriGi> MonkeyDust: where i can find that configs?
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> GriGi  ls -la
[17:52] <GriGi> I*, sry for my english, Im non english.
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> jen_  I have XP in vbox, too, what's the issue exactly?
[17:53] <overclucker> jen_: there is also a #vbox channel
[17:53] <jen_> MonkeyDust, Im not sure, I go to start it up and it says it cant use the medium
[17:54] <jen_> the vbox channel is never paying attention
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> jen_  "can't use" is a bit vague, what is the error message?
[17:55] <GriGi> MonkeyDust, okay, Im in /.mozilla/firefox/ and i got "Crash", "Reports" folders and "profiles.ini", "emv4plli.default" files
[17:55] <Practical> in the man when I read up on printf I noticed at the botton is listed see also printf(3). Though when I type man printf(3) the response is: syntax error near unexpected token `('   So how to view man for printf(3)?
[17:55] <jen_> Failed to open a session for the virtual machine Windows XP.
[17:55] <jen_> Could not open the medium '/media/9282e97e-2061-4cc0-9e0a-eb5247753d4a/VirtualMachine/NewHardDisk1.vmdk'.
[17:55] <jen_> VD: error VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND opening image file '/media/9282e97e-2061-4cc0-9e0a-eb5247753d4a/VirtualMachine/NewHardDisk1.vmdk' (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND).
[17:55] <jen_> oh sorry should have used pastebin >.<
[17:55] <Gnea> Practical: man 3 printf
[17:56] <Practical> Gnea, thank you
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> jen_  file not found, so it does not seem to exist or is not in the path where vbox looks for it
[17:56] <cloudgeek> hey
[17:56] <DoctorD> I do not know if it's possible: Can i create my own domain name? i mean, something like: testing.drw (.drw - to be my domain name)
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> GriGi  try deleting the firefox folder, but backup your bookmarks, first
[17:57] <jen_> so I do what now?
[17:57] <jen_> MonkeyDust,
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> jen_  delete XP from the list and re-create it, i hope you're not losing imortant data
[17:58] <llutz_> DoctorD: for local use, sure. not for internet usage, there you have to use one of the official tlds
[18:00] <DoctorD> @llutz_ - why can't be used on the internet ?
[18:00] <Resistance> DoctorD:  you need a legitimate TLD, .org, .net, etc.
[18:00] <llutz_> DoctorD: because only official tld where routed through the net
[18:00] <juk> Should i use .m3u or .m3u8 when I make music playlists? Which one is better?
[18:01] <Resistance> DoctorD:  as llutz_ says, only TLDs that are valid are routed through the net.  (.org, .net, .com, .us, .tk, etc.)
[18:01] <DoctorD> hm....damn it. so it's no way i can make it possible
[18:02] <dubnukem> juk: I've never heard about m3u8 to bee honest, only m3u or pls
[18:02] <Resistance> DoctorD:  not with .drw, because its not a TLD
[18:02] <llutz_> DoctorD: register a domain.tld  at the registrar of your choice, pay him, be happy
[18:02] <Resistance> DoctorD:  you could of course buy a domain through a registrar with some other domain extension, i.e. .com .net .org .info, etc.
[18:02] <Resistance> then it'd work
[18:03] <DoctorD> i understand,
[18:03] <DoctorD> i was very interested in how to make one..because if they can make one....and the internet represents all connections form all computers
[18:03] <DoctorD> i was thinking it's possible
[18:03] <MonkeyDust> DoctorD  you can create your own domain, if you have your own DHCP-server
[18:03] <juk> dubnukem: okay. m3u8 uses UFC-8 and m3u uses latin-1 i think
[18:03] <schnuffle> DoctorD: Be aware that the different TLDs have prices
[18:04] <juk> *UTF-8 i mean
[18:04] <schnuffle> different prices
[18:04] <jxshxx> Anyone availible to help w/ a problem involving "target filesystem doesn t have sbin init"?
[18:04] <llutz_> DoctorD: write a nice letter to IANA, request a new tld "drw" :)
[18:05] <DoctorD> o yeah..and the reply will be something like : "what?"
[18:05] <schnuffle> jxshxx: what are you doing?
[18:05] <g0th> hi
[18:05] <dubnukem> Soon you can buy your own tld, right? For a few hundred thousand
[18:05] <g0th> when I do aptitude remove adobe-flashplugin, it tries to remove libc6, wth is going on?
[18:05] <g0th> how do I remove the adobe-flashplugin?
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> g0th  sudo apt-get purge
[18:06] <jxshxx> schnuffle: Lucid won't boot.  I found some info that suggests I could fix the prob via Live CD, but the Live CD doesn't get past the purple screen.
[18:07] <jxshxx> schnuffle: Here's a little more background - http://pastebin.com/J3XHemJe
[18:07] <g0th> MonkeyDust: hmm, why doesnt it work with aptitude?
[18:07] <g0th> is aptitude no longer supported in ubuntu?!?
[18:07] <g0th> because this would mean that I change the distro back to debian
[18:07] <MonkeyDust> g0th  can't say, but if aptitude doesnt do the job, try apt-get
[18:08] <g0th> ok
[18:08] <Pici> g0th: It is supported, it just isn't installed by default.  As a result, the default configuration for aptitude may not do what you want it to do (installing reccomends/suggests/etc)
[18:09] <schnuffle> jxshxx: okay so apparently your update was only partial. You can boot from some CD/USB chroot into your system and finish the update process
[18:09] <g0th> I think it is a serious bug with aptitude
[18:09] <g0th> that needs to be fixed urgently
[18:09] <g0th> for the next release
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> i never use aptitude
[18:09] <picasso> hi. im having problems with sudo. i'd like to allow a user (or group) to simulate any user on the system, without password
[18:09] <llutz_> g0th: what version of aptitude, what ubuntu-version?
[18:09] <g0th> ofc I use aptitude
[18:09] <g0th> it is the best package manager around imo
[18:09] <picasso> but for some reason sudo -u <non-root user> -s gives me an error
[18:09] <picasso> evn though sudo -s is fine
[18:09] <g0th> aptitude 0.6.4 compiled at Aug  8 2011 20:57:01
[18:09] <GriGi> MonkeyDust, that didn't worked :/. I don't know why, but on other PC i got the same fonts (serif) and everything looks okay, but after installin wine on this PC it's like different font
[18:10] <GriGi> the same fonts in firefox preferences*
[18:10] <picasso> Sorry, user vagrant is not allowed to execute '/bin/bash' as postgres on lucid32.
[18:10] <schnuffle> picasso: what did you change in /etc/sudoers?
[18:10] <llutz_> g0th: lsb_release -sc
[18:10] <picasso> %admin ALL=NOPASSWD:ALL
[18:10] <g0th> oneiric
[18:11] <picasso> schnuffle: i believe this is a customized installation already for Vagrant, so i'm not sure exactly what they changed, but i'd like to further adjust so that i can run commands from 'vagrant' account, as a different user (postgres)
[18:11] <g0th> I think it is a bug related to 64bit
[18:11] <g0th> e.g. all packages are shown twice
[18:11] <jxshxx> schnuffle: Sounds wonderful.  Can you help me w/ detail or point to a good tutorial for a 1st timer?
[18:11] <g0th> and I think this whole adobe-flashplugin stuff is also related to the same bug
[18:12] <g0th> is oneiric still the current version?
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> yes
[18:13] <schnuffle> jxshxx: First ouy need to get a live system running. Apparently the CD you have fails? Can you boot into a console?
[18:13] <g0th> so hopefully it will be fixed for the next release
[18:14] <renato_> hey there
[18:14] <rabbit> Hi all.  How do I put certain processes not associated to my terminal to sleep? Say I have several tar processes running, and I want to put one to sleep for some time.
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> rabbit  ctrl-z puts processes onhold, they can be recovered by using fg
[18:16] <rabbit> MonkeyDust: It is not associated with the terminal, it was either: disowned or started by cron.
[18:16] <renato_> i don't really like how ubuntu 11.10 looks :/
[18:16] <renato_> I miss the old ubuntu
[18:16] <arvut> are there any known problems with gnome3 on a 11.10 64-bit system? I lost the desktop session menu where you choose between unity 2D, 3D, gnome classic, gnome 3 and some failsafe x session (I think?)?
[18:18] <rabbit> MonkeyDust: kill -STOP $PID; kill -CONT $PID.
[18:18] <justin__> Does anyone have an idea why the system is telling me it can't find a particular file, when it has a clear path to the file and permission to get there?
[18:18] <mistawac> Is your capacitor fluxing?
[18:18] <ikonia> justin__: what is "the system" what's telling you ?
[18:18] <jxshxx> schnuffle: Before I ask what that means ... I typed in "help" after (initramfs), and I see "chroot" in the list of commands.  Is this a way to get where I need to be?
[18:19] <justin__> ikonia: When trying to compile a project, I get the message "[taskdef] Could not load definitions from resource flexTasks.tasks. It could not be found."
[18:21] <schnuffle> jxshxx: what means after initramfs? Can you boot your system?
[18:22] <renato_> Can anyone give me a help on ubuntu please? I have some doubts. please pm me :/
[18:22] <schnuffle> picasso: have you tried to set a blank after NOPASSWD: %admin ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL and the user you test with is in the admin group?
[18:23] <schnuffle> anyone! | renato
[18:23] <schnuffle> !anyone | renato
[18:23] <budmang> Hey guys I have a ati rage 128 pro(http://pastebin.com/GXujjjfy) I get video but its 800x600 and unknown monitor...
[18:23] <jxshxx> schnuffle: Please see lines 31-33 of the pastebin link http://pastebin.com/J3XHemJe  - That's where I end up when the system fails to boot
[18:24] <picasso> schnuffle: tried that, no luck. yes, verified the user is in admin group
[18:24] <renato_> Does anyone can tell me if is that possible to make the side bar on ubuntu 11.10 always on top? :D
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> renato_  install CCSM, there, find Unity desktop plugin
[18:25] <schnuffle> jxshxx: what is strange is that it wants to mount dev to /root/dev which of course will fail
[18:25] <renato_> sudo apt-get install ccsm will work?
[18:26] <MonkeyDust> !ccsm
[18:26] <nonewem> hey
[18:27] <jxshxx> schnuffle: I typed it "chroot" and gave me - Usage: chroot NEWROOT [COMMAND...], Run COMMAND with root directory set to NEWROOT
[18:27] <picasso> sudo allows me password-less root access, but not access as any other user. trying to diagnose so i can directly simulate another user on the system. anyone have an idea what could cause that?
[18:28] <robbbie> picasso: su - user
[18:28] <jxshxx> schnuffle: just put the Live CD in another computer and confirmed that is works
[18:28] <schnuffle> jxshxx: That will not work as long as you haven't mounted everything to the correct place
[18:28] <picasso> i'd like to run commands directly in a script being run as user1
[18:29] <renato_> MonkeuDust done, thank you :D
[18:29] <picasso> robbbie: can i actually specify a command that way? i did try that
[18:29] <schnuffle> jxshxx: so the CD works but not on the PC having the problems?
[18:29] <picasso> vagrant@lucid32:~$ sudo su - postgres id # /usr/bin/id: /usr/bin/id: cannot execute binary file
[18:29] <jxshxx> schnuffle: Correct.  Should we talk about booting into console?
[18:30] <jbwiv> anyone here have unity working on three+ monitors with nvidia cards?
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> jbwiv  just ask your question, pls
[18:31] <schnuffle> jxshxx: Yes, when the CD boots press F6 and enter the boot paramter to contain: noquiet nosplash init=/bin/bash
[18:32] <jbwiv> MonkeyDust, that is indeed my question. I'm not sure it's possible with the current versions of unity
[18:32] <lui-der-furz> tor how to for ubuntu 11.10?
[18:32] <llutz_> !tor | lui-der-furz
[18:32] <mwolf9> does anyone know of a Compiz plugin that replicates the application switcher in Gnome shell when you hit the hot corner?
[18:33] <curran> I have a live USB and sometimes like to save data to my usb too.  is there a way to create a symlink on the live partition, to another folder on another parition.  So I don't have to put my files in the live environment filesystem (e.g. small partition).  So it would be redirected to another parition, that windows does not see, usually only see's the active parition (native filesystem type) on USB's.
[18:33] <lui-der-furz> thanks
[18:34] <jxshxx> schnuffle: F6 got me into Language
[18:34] <schnuffle> Hm, anybody knows the keys to change the boot paramter?
[18:35] <gerhard> in grub?
[18:36] <VIPER-II> hiya there..
[18:36] <schnuffle> gerhard: yes, just found it, it's ESC or shift
[18:36] <schnuffle> jxshxx: So if you have grub1 its Escape or Shift in Grub2 it's Escape and Shift
[18:37] <y-chrmsm-adam> how to use Mint's better Gnome3 fork on ubuntu?
[18:37] <VIPER-II> I'm logged into my Ubuntu machine through command line. How do i tell it to copy a file over to or from a smb-shared disk? Located on a network machine?
[18:37] <y-chrmsm-adam> I GOTS TO HAVE IT!!!
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> y-chrmsm-adam  caps, ps
[18:37] <gerhard> mount the smb share, or not?
[18:37] <y-chrmsm-adam> or else ppl will think ubuntu/gnome3 is a POS
[18:38] <VIPER-II> gerhard: the sahre is actualy on another computer. i need to access that.
[18:38] <y-chrmsm-adam> gots to do it for linux's sake.
[18:38] <ikonia> y-chrmsm-adam: mint is not using gnome 3 currently, the default is gnome 2
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> y-chrmsm-adam  add Mint to your sources list and download whatever package you need
[18:38] <jxshxx> schnuffle: Esc gives me options of Try w/out install, check disc for defects, test mem, boot from first hard disk
[18:38] <schnuffle> y-chrmsm-adam: http://www.howtoforge.com/install-gnome-3-with-mint-gnome-shell-extensions-or-mate-on-ubuntu-11.10-oneiric-ocelot
[18:38] <gerhard> viper-ii: then just mount it
[18:39] <VIPER-II> cp /home/downloads/starwars.avi smb:192.168.1.5/Hdd1/movies/
[18:39] <VIPER-II> ?
[18:40] <y-chrmsm-adam> schnuffle: kuschel thanks!!
[18:40] <pleasehelp> can anyone help me with wireless problem on ubuntu 10.04
[18:40] <janisozaur> I'm currently in busybox mode after having failed to properly compild
[18:40] <janisozaur> I'm currently in busybox mode after having failed to properly compiled kernel. How do i enumerate uuid-s for drives?
[18:40] <pleasehelp> ?
[18:40] <gerhard> viper-ii: try mount -t smbfs
[18:41] <gerhard> viper-ii: mount -t smbfs //servername/sharename /mountdirectory -o username=mywindowsusername,password=mywindowspassword
[18:41] <VIPER-II> oh
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !ask| pleasehelp
[18:42] <ft_mn> ./ns identify 123456789
[18:43] <pleasehelp> My laptop Acer with built in wireless card Broadcom Corporation cannot  connect to wireless networks using ubuntu 10.04.  Wireless still works with Windows 7.  And ethernet works on ubuntu and W7..
[18:43] <Pici> ft_mn: thats the same password I have on my luggage!  Now please change it.
[18:43] <ft_mn> Pici: :D
[18:43] <pleasehelp> I am trying to follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html EXCEPT i dont know how to check if my device is on
[18:43] <bouncybounce> pleasehelp's URL: Wireless troubleshooting
[18:44] <ft_mn> Pici: Whats the command?
[18:44] <Pici> ft_mn: this should get you sorted: /msg nickserv help set password
[18:44] <ft_mn> Pici: thanx buddy!
[18:45] <jxshxx> schnuffle: Is that where I need to be?  I'm unclear as to my next step.
[18:45] <dyd> i don't know exactly where to express my joy about it but... i made it!! i made mac work on pc... took about 2 weeks of fatigue and failed attempts, i was about to leave it when i turned on the computer to remove the installation dvd and take it home (after the last installation crash), but while putting it in the case i've seen the OS boot... LOL
[18:45] <jen_> I still cant get into my virtualbox because it says the medium is missing
[18:46] <jen_> but its not missing
[18:46] <benbloom> does anyone know if there's a way to make aufs wait until nfs mounts complete before mounting via fstab? in fstab docs _netdev switch is for nfs only. can I somehow add it to the aufs line?
[18:47] <guest__> hello
[18:47] <pleasehelp> please someone helpÉ
[18:47] <pleasehelp> ?
[18:47] <guest__> help
[18:47] <guest__> zes
[18:47] <guest__> im help
[18:47] <guest__> pinguz
[18:47] <guest__> pinguy
[18:48] <benbloom> !ask | pleasehelp
[18:48] <pleasehelp> benbloom I already typed my questioin
[18:48] <pleasehelp> My laptop Acer with built in wireless card Broadcom Corporation cannot  connect to wireless networks using ubuntu 10.04.  Wireless still works with Windows 7.  And ethernet works on ubuntu and W7..
[18:48] <pleasehelp> I am trying to follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html EXCEPT i dont know how to check if my device is on
[18:48] <bouncybounce> pleasehelp's URL: Wireless troubleshooting
[18:48] <benbloom> sry pleasehelp i'll look
[18:49] <pleasehelp> thank youuu!!!
[18:49] <curran> wrong ikonia, it uses matte and gnome3 by default
[18:50] <mistawac> Hey all, got a quick firewall question.  What ports need to be open for email?  I have 25 open, but email won't send unless the whole firewall is down
[18:50] <benbloom> k so are you on a laptop pleasehelp
[18:50] <curran> just remove ur firewall completely, no big deal.
[18:50] <pleasehelp> right now im on a pc and my laptop is infront of me
[18:50] <mistawac> Curran: I would, but my boss wants a firewall on the thing.
[18:50] <sholsapp> mistawac: probably want your pop/imap ports opened too
[18:50] <benbloom> and which device are you trying to get on wifi pleasehelp
[18:51] <mistawac> sholsapp: what ports are those?
[18:51] <ErrorsOfMan> hey guys, im looking for an irc client that will support multiple windows or panes. you guys know of any?
[18:51] <mistawac> mIRC
[18:51] <lemur> hi, how can i copy a file directly to a USB (i.e. dont wait until unmounted to flush)
[18:51] <hrolf> I opened the System Testing app in Ubuntu 11.10
[18:51] <pleasehelp> benbloom its my acer laptop it doesnt connect to wireless also what is the command to ignore joins and quits?
[18:51] <hrolf> and now it's loading
[18:51] <hrolf> how do I kill it?
[18:51] <d1g1ta1> How do you install programs such as  openssl on an external USB drive when running ./config --prefix=/media/usb/usr/bin instead installs on the internal drive?
[18:51] <hrolf> I mean what is its process name?
[18:52] <sholsapp> mistawac:     POP3 - port 110, IMAP - port 143, SMTP - port 25
[18:52] <blitz> hrolf, you can search with ps -ef
[18:52] <stevr1it> hello wiht ubuntu 11.10 i have libreoffice and java icedtea, libreoffice now and then crashed, and it is java fault, can i substitute java iceadtea with any other java?
[18:52] <ErrorsOfMan> i dont think it works on windows
[18:52] <benbloom> i believe that's client dependent which irc client are you using pleasehelp?
[18:52] <mistawac> sholsapp: thanks :) giving that a try
[18:52] <jen_> anyone know?
[18:52] <benbloom> can you pastebin iwconfig pleasehelp
[18:53] <blitz> it's not usually a command pleasehelp, gotta go into settings
[18:53] <blitz> of your irc client
[18:53] <deuterium> hey guys, i want to install ubuntu 11.10 on my ssd. thing is: space is tight. can i tell ubuntu when it setups the partitions to create e.g. a 1 gb swap partition only instead of a 4 gb swap partition? i have 4 gb ram.
[18:53] <blitz> deuterium, yes
[18:53] <pleasehelp> blitz what settings ? should i reboot on W7 ?
[18:54] <blitz> are you using mirc?
[18:54] <pleasehelp> benbloom  what do you mean pastebin iwconfig
[18:54] <deuterium> blitz: how? i couldn't create a smaller swap partition even when i chose manual partitioning during setup
[18:54] <Resistance> !pastebin | pleasehelp
[18:54] <bouncybounce> ubottu's URL: Ubuntu Pastebin
[18:54] <bouncybounce> ubottu's URL: Imagebin - A place to slap up your images.
[18:54] <blitz> there should be an advanced button to click
[18:54] <pleasehelp> thanks Resistance
[18:55] <pangolin> bouncybounce: Please turn that off
[18:56] <pangolin> http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[18:56] <bouncybounce> pangolin's URL: Imagebin - A place to slap up your images.
[18:56] <benbloom> theres a great little app called pastebinit pleasehelp. if you type "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" it will install
[18:56] <patholio> evening all
[18:57] <benbloom> pleasehelp, then you type the command followed by the pipe symbol and pastebinit and it will give you a url with the output i want. ex: "iwconfig | pastebinit"
[18:57] <benbloom> then pleasehelp, you copy the address that's returned into chat and i can look at it
[18:59] <pleasehelp> benbloom ok im on to it give me a sec ! thank u !
[18:59] <chilicuil> does exist any way to liberate memory on demand like in android, in Ubuntu?
[18:59] <Resistance> chilicuil:  define "liberate memory"
[19:00] <Resistance> chilicuil:  you dont ususally need  to "liberate memory"
[19:00] <chilicuil> Resistance: kill apps
[19:00] <Resistance> chilicuil:  there's always the kill command, but i strongly discourage the use of it except for misbehaving processes
[19:00] <blitz> deuterium, you probably shouldn't go less than your ram with swap size
[19:00] <xyz111> Hi, I'm trying to set up a name server using bind9 and ubuntu, on my home machine - I was wondering is it enough to port forward port 53 to 53 from my router to name server in order to function as a nameserver?
[19:00] <chilicuil> Resistance: it's just that I love that feature in android, since it's linux, I was just wondering
[19:00] <blitz> chilicuil, do sudo apt-get install htop
[19:01] <blitz> then you can monitor your processes
[19:01] <maheanuu> OK; I now that I have lost thousands of photos and all my personal financial data and my laptop doesn't boot what can I do?????
[19:01] <patholio> maheanuu, dont panic
[19:01] <chilicuil> blitz: ok, I was looking for an automatted way to do it, but that's fine, I guess there's no easy way
[19:01] <blitz> maheanuu, did the drive fail completely? if you can put it in another computer and access even if it was a boot drive then you might be able to access it and copy them over
[19:02] <patholio> maheanuu have you tried booting your laptop with a live cd?
[19:02] <koffeehauser> Test
[19:02] <blitz> test
[19:03] <benbloom> chilicuil, thats what swapping is all about. but instead of killing processes (and potentially losing data) it swaps the process out of memory into the HD
[19:03] <deuterium> blitz: i thought that shouldn't be an issue nowadays anymore. i remember times, when swap had to be double the ram size. but with 4 gb or ram and the current kernel, 1 gb should be ok if one really needs to save every gb of ssd space.
[19:03] <chilicuil> benbloom: ohhh, I had no idea, /me goes to wikipedia to find more about it
[19:04] <blitz> deuterium,  maybe you could install a smaller distro instead
[19:04] <GriGi> MonkeyDust, everything works fine, now. I deleted /usr/share/fonts/msttcorefonts, that was Windows fonts from wine i think
[19:04] <deuterium> blitz: hm.. i really want to install ubuntu. it's my fav distro.
[19:04] <benbloom> pleasehelp, did you get pastebinit up and running?
[19:04] <GriGi> MonkeyDust, anyway, thanks for help :).
[19:04] <maheanuu> patholio: I reinstalled 10.10 last nite qnd it rebooted fine; then it did an upgrade and wiped out everything; now I a, getting a grub resume and know nothing plus I q, on q french machine and the keys are shit
[19:05] <txomon> Hi, how is remote desktop supposed to work? I mean, sharing desktop etc.
[19:05] <blitz> I meant a stripped down version of ubuntu
[19:05] <txomon> I cant login!
[19:06] <benbloom> txomon, are you using vnc from one linux machine to another?
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> txomon  linux/windows, or linux/linux
[19:06] <maheanuu> I start to boot and it hangs
[19:07] <benbloom> lol MonkeyDust much more efficient way to say that
[19:07] <blitz> can you boot from a live cd maheanuu?
[19:07] <maheanuu> blitz, no nothing
[19:08] <blitz> you'll probably have to remove the drive and put it into another computer and see if you can access the files on it
[19:08] <picasso> oh lol. i can just do: sudo sudo -u postgres id
[19:09] <maheanuu> blitz: I have the CDrom as bootqble in bios qnd the hd disqbled qnd I am getting a grub resume error
[19:09] <budmang> I have a Rage 128 Pro Ultra TR. lshw shows display-unclaimed... lsmod | grep r128 shows it loaded... the system monitors panel says you have another video driver in control use their cataystl control panel(which doesnt load)..
[19:09] <maheanuu> blitz:  whqt is grubresume?
[19:09] <budmang> Ive gone through a few forums and still going through.
[19:10] <blitz> sounds like it's trying to resume from hibernation? not exactly sure
[19:10] <deuterium> blitz: ok, i'll try again. first, i try to free up some more gb of ssd space, maybe that suffices. thanks.
[19:10] <maheanuu> This effin Farani Kbd
[19:11] <oscar> hello guys
[19:12] <blitz> deuterium, np, you can pretty much do anything from the command line if it doesn't seem possible in the gui setup
[19:12] <deuterium> blitz: good to know that this is still possible :)
[19:12] <maheanuu> OK; I will try to find something in bios to get out of the hibernation crap
[19:12] <tielhalter_> hi guys
[19:12] <maheanuu> back later
[19:12] <tielhalter_> can anyone help me with fglrx and opengl?
[19:13] <oscar> can any one help me with  back light problem ?
[19:14] <WalterN> dont ask to ask, just ask
[19:14] <WalterN> rule #2 of IRC :)
[19:14] <DVS01> whats #1?
[19:14] <WalterN> dont PO the ops
[19:14] <WalterN> ...or something
[19:14] <DVS01> hhe
[19:14] <DVS01> hehe
[19:15] <benbloom> !ask | oscar
[19:15] <WalterN> ah, neat
[19:16] <WalterN> !ask | tielhalter_
[19:16] <blitz> !ask | ubottu
[19:16] <blitz> it outsmarted me
[19:16] <WalterN> hah
[19:16] <WalterN> !windows
[19:16] <oCean> blitz: don't mess with the bot
[19:16] <tielhalter_> i'm trying to play UT2004 and other OpenGL-based games on linux, and there are very slow. I'm have AMD A6 Quad and AMD Radeon 6520 and AMD Radeon 6670
[19:16] <oCean> blitz: use /msg ubottu !bot  to use it in private
[19:17] <chuck1> I want to connect to #java but I definitely doesn't understand how to register, i'm noob for irc
[19:17] <hydester> i just installed kubuntu-desktop from ubuntu and my default file associations are still gnome-ish, like evince for PDF files.  besides right-clicking in dolphin and changing the default app via properties, is there a command to set the system to kde defaults?
[19:17] <oscar> ok then i have a back light problem it flickers as if it blacks the screen
[19:17] <oCean> chuck1: /join #freenode channel for help with that
[19:17] <benbloom> also WalterN for tielhalter_there's !fglrx
[19:17] <WalterN> shiny bot
[19:18] <curran> Is there anywhere to get extra folder emblems for gnome?
[19:18] <tielhalter_> thx benbloom
[19:18] <|Anthony|> what is the situation with a dual-headed setup under unity?
[19:18] <milamber> !register | chuck1
[19:18] <tielhalter_> !fglrx
[19:19] <benbloom> i can't actually help you with it tielhalter_. but try using that and then come back and i'm sure someone can help you
[19:19] <WalterN> tielhalter_: it seems the 6000 series is rather buggy with the AMD drivers still... I cant really play eve online.. some issues with it
[19:19] <Sopro> Dell XPS whith Nvidia and Intel? How the work?
[19:20] <oscar> any one?
[19:20] <Thunderkiss65> I play rome total war with wine with radeon hd4200 and the units go black when i zoom in. Didnt happen with other nvidia
[19:21] <txomon> benbloom, MonkeyDust , linux|linux vnc (intended)
[19:21] <oscar> screw this
[19:21] <tielhalter_> i'm sad, UT2004 on my P4 with GeForce 6600 works better than my notebook.. =(
[19:21] <benbloom> and what vnc server are you using MonkeyDust?
[19:21] <tyler_d> tielhalter_: define that
[19:21] <txomon> benbloom, its me
[19:22] <txomon> benbloom, the default with gnome
[19:22] <|Anthony|> so unity is a plugin for compiz, right?
[19:22] <benbloom> sorry txomon
[19:22] <curran> is there a way to create an alias for a folder?  instead of a symlink, so if i have a folder "LINUX" i can also type "cd linux" and go there?
[19:22] <WalterN> tielhalter_: are you using the AMD drivers?
[19:22] <WalterN> or the open source ones
[19:22] <tielhalter_> yep, fglrx
[19:23] <txomon> benbloom, its vino (or that says the docs)
[19:23] <WalterN> tielhalter_: yes what?
[19:23] <txomon> but I am unable to know why it isn't booting
[19:23] <benbloom> txomon, I don't use gnome or vino, but have found that x11vnc is a nice CLI alternative to any of the gui based vnc servers
[19:23] <tielhalter_> yes, i am use AMD fglrx driver ><
[19:23] <Thunderkiss65> curran, try it ansd see
[19:23] <txomon> benbloom, the problem is the server side
[19:24] <curran> try what and see?
[19:24] <benbloom> right x11vnc is a server txomon
[19:24] <curran> nobody posted anything, I don't want a symlink on my desktop, so that's why I asked if there is a way to alias.
[19:24] <WalterN> tielhalter_: ok, the latest one? or the one that you get from the restricted drivers thingy?
[19:24] <Thunderkiss65> the alias in your .bashrc
[19:24] <benbloom> txomon, It's easy to use, well documented, and command line activated so you can log in and start it up via ssh
[19:25] <txomon> benbloom, but vino one is supposed to be working
[19:25] <txomon> if not, why is it ported with ubuntu?
[19:25] <tielhalter_> WalterN: latest, from official website.
[19:25] <WalterN> ok
[19:25] <nzee> jpeg decoder not found. what to do?
[19:26] <benbloom> fair point txomon. i've had that question about many packages that are inferior yet built into ubuntu
[19:26] <WalterN> tielhalter_: if they are installed properly then yeah, what I said before...
[19:26] <nzee> i m on virtualenv. m getting error 'jpeg decoder not found'
[19:26] <WalterN> tielhalter_: drivers are too buggy still
[19:27] <|Anthony|> so unity is a plugin for compiz, right?
[19:27] <WalterN> tielhalter_: play minecraft instead :)
[19:27] <benbloom> so txomon, if you want to use vino-server, I can try to help. what's the problem?
[19:27] <tielhalter_> WalterN: i want world of warcraft :(
[19:27] <txomon> benbloom, It starts with xdg
[19:29] <tielhalter_> WalterN: do you know any resources about fglrx or about configuring xorg for work with ATI cards?
[19:29] <benbloom> i'm not sure what you mean txomon
[19:30] <ubluntu> !ati | tielhalter_
[19:30] <txomon> benbloom, googling I've found that it uses an active session
[19:30] <txomon> but my idea is to use it like a rdesktop
[19:30] <tielhalter_> !ati
[19:31] <WalterN> tielhalter_: the thing to do is check the logs to see if the driver is loading properly, and/or check the command glxgears and see if its laggy when you open it up full screen
[19:31] <bs_> how to change the gnome interface to english
[19:32] <brightspark> Hi, I'm getting an error relating to graphical support when I attempt to configure the Liquid War beta for compilation- does anyone here have expertise in this area?
[19:32] <polygon-pusher1> I have an app that I downloaded the bin for, my question is what is the proper folder that you typically install common programs in. I also realize that you make a link and put it in the bin/usr/bin folder but where does that  program go?
[19:33] <WalterN> polygon-pusher1: lib/usr/bin? what is "I downloaded the bin for"?
[19:33] <blitz> whats the best open source game I can get from apt-get
[19:33] <boudoulkool> HI
[19:34] <txomon> blitz, tell us which is the best game ever
[19:34] <elemin> in this channel speak only english lang.?)
[19:34] <aeon-ltd> blitz: best is subjective, also this is offtopic go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:34] <txomon> elemin, yep why?
[19:34] <benbloom> I'm sorry to be dense txomon, but i need you to tell me what the expected behavior is and what you're getting instead
[19:34] <BarkingFish> elemin: - yes, we only use english here.  What language do you need?
[19:34] <brightspark> polygon-pusher1, non-standard software can live in /opt, or if it is for your user only, in ~/bin
[19:34] <txomon> expected behavior: to be able to connect to the computer via vnc by just switching it on
[19:35] <blitz> is this channel only for trouble shooting?
[19:35] <tielhalter_> WalterN: I don't see any image in glxgears window, but in console i'm have ~3200fps oO there is first time, when i don't see gears.
[19:35] <txomon> getting instead: It switchs on, and it doesn't start the server
[19:35] <txomon> blitz, yep
[19:35] <meerkats> are all logitech mouses linux compatible?
[19:36] <ubluntu> meerkats: think so if its usb compliant
[19:36] <tielhalter_> WalterN: in fullscreen ~1400fps
[19:36] <Jonii_> Is there any way to turn onboard virtual keyboard off?
[19:36] <WalterN> tielhalter_: hmm... dont see anything in the window when you run glxgears.... sounds like something in the driver is not working properly
[19:36] <txomon> benbloom, I replied you
[19:36] <Jonii_> Does uninstalling it help or something?
[19:36] <txomon> sry for not marking it
[19:36] <txomon> Jonii_, ?
[19:36] <txomon> help in what?
[19:36] <WalterN> tielhalter_: look at the logs and see what the error is then :)
[19:37] <Jonii_> txomon: shutting down onboard virtual keyboard
[19:37] <benbloom> what do you mean by active sessions vs rdesktop though?
[19:37] <elemin> hm... Russian room on this irq"server apsent:) ?
[19:37] <txomon> Jonii_, what does it help into?
[19:37] <Pici> !ru | elemin
[19:38] <elemin> oh thanks -)
[19:38] <Jonii_> txomon: huh? I just want to get rid of it
[19:38] <Jonii_> Make it go away, stop annoying me
[19:38] <Jonii_> But its hidden somewhere, and it just randomly appears
[19:38] <txomon> benbloom, I want to use vino without anyone logged in
[19:38] <ariesam> Regalan 50 computadoras en una escuela en Bolivia con Ubuntu. Bien por los niños.
[19:38] <benbloom> got it
[19:39] <txomon> Jonii_, using gnome-shell?
[19:39] <idonolol> !theme
[19:39] <bs_> how to change gnome interface to english
[19:39] <Jonii_> And when I try to log in, i can't even get rid of it
[19:39] <idonolol> !themes
[19:39] <idonolol> !theme
[19:39] <Jonii_> txomon: ubuntu 11.10, that is, unity
[19:39] <idonolol> where can i get themes for ubuntu?
[19:39] <DoctorD> what game similar to XBoing II do you know ?
[19:39] <txomon> idonolol, ... you just answered yourself
[19:39] <DoctorD> themes ?
[19:39] <DoctorD> google
[19:39] <benbloom> in x11vnc '-usepw -display :0 -auth guess' options allow this.
[19:40] <DoctorD> g-nome look
[19:40] <DoctorD> a lot of places :)
[19:40] <txomon> benbloom, but it requires to have it in init.d ? Because I need it to be in the startup, and vino isnt
[19:40] <blitz> is there a way to give a window focus by hovering the mouse without using Ubuntu's universal access hover click thing?
[19:41] <idonolol> txomon what do you mean? i googled where can i get themes for ubuntu but i was wondering if there was a trusted site or something u guys know about
[19:41] <txomon> !theme | idonolol
[19:41] <WalterN> blitz: compiz can be configured as such if you want
[19:41] <idonolol> oooooooooooh i didnt see it >.< im sorry
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[19:41] <txomon> haha
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[19:41] <benbloom> txomon, I use ssh to log into my remote server and start the vnc server from there for security reasons. I don't like the idea of leaving the vnc server open all the time
[19:42] <txomon> thats why I told you you had answered yourself
[19:42] <tielhalter_> WalterN: i didn't find any errors in glxgears output, /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/dmesg. Is there any other log files?
[19:42] <txomon> benbloom, the idea was to do a mixed login, ssh tunnel and VNC localhost
[19:43] <WalterN> tielhalter_: just xorg.0.log... and that would probably mean that the driver is buggy
[19:43] <benbloom> right. so why u need it to autostart then txomon? just create a bash alias
[19:43] <mistawac> Anyone familiar with how UFW displays it's information from iptables?
[19:43] <y-chrmsm-adam> sound be bugging the eff out!!
[19:43] <txomon> benbloom, gnome-session needed
[19:43] <y-chrmsm-adam> is it normal for sound on youtube to gone haywire??
[19:44] <greg__> glxgear is just in the terminal write: "glxgears"
[19:44] <greg__> what gone haywire
[19:44] <zatan> Hi, where is keep unity root password ?
[19:44] <ariesam> Giving away more than 50 computers to a school with Ubuntu, in Bolivia. Than good for children.
[19:44] <dr_willis> zatan:  there is no 'root' user password by default.
[19:44] <tielhalter_> WalterN: okay, thanks!
[19:45] <zatan> dr_willis, I mean where is keep my user password ? as in the seahorse I cant see anything
[19:45] <ssta> zatan: your user password is never stored anywhere
[19:45] <ssta> or at least shouldn't be
[19:46] <benbloom> txomon, im sure there's similar settings in vino-server to my "x11vnc -usepw -display :0 -auth guess" settings, but TBH i don't know why you want to use vino so badly. it is not as well documented as x11vnc (or else you wouldn't need help)
[19:46] <zatan> ssta,  ok thanks
[19:46] <txomon> benbloom, its in all systems xD
[19:48] <bs_> ubuntu 11.10 freeze some times i mean i can't do anything but moving the mouse how to solve this
[19:49] <polygon-pusher1> how do I set a default app to be used for a file type?
[19:50] <benbloom> yeah but it's obviously not what you want txomon, and its gnome-dependent which is a big fail when you're working with remote machines. you want a command line based utility that will serve your computer's X11 display remotely.
[19:50] <debsan> polygon-pusher1, it depends which is your system ?
[19:50] <polygon-pusher1> 11
[19:50] <idonolol> how do i know which KDE version do i have?
[19:50] <FreezingCold> Weird question, I'm trying to get my computer to forward everything going to 192.168.1.1:9102 to localhost:25743, how can I do that with iptables?
[19:51] <txomon> benbloom, the idea was to teach a friend to use it xD
[19:51] <polygon-pusher1> gnome
[19:51] <txomon> idonolol, go #kubuntu
[19:51] <idonolol> wait txomon does ubuntu 10.04 have KDE?
[19:52] <FreezingCold> idonolol: click help on something kde and look at the version
[19:52] <txomon> idonolol, ubuntu-> gnome kubuntu-> kde lubuntu->lxde xubuntu->xfce etc.
[19:52] <FreezingCold> txomon: Where't Unity?
[19:52] <idonolol> txomon i dont get im just trying to look for themes and they are asking me what KDE i have
[19:52] <benbloom> lol FreezingCold
[19:52] <txomon> FreezingCold, ubuntu
[19:52] <idonolol> i have no idea what is taht
[19:53] <txomon> idonolol, you are in the wrong place
[19:53] <chuck1310> I've a problem when I use Ubuntu, my pc shut down automatically after a few moment
[19:53] <idonolol> txomon touchee.. thank you sir
[19:53] <chuck1310> often when I process some action, like started a application
[19:54] <txomon> idonolol, I meant searching themes of course
[19:54] <chuck1310> and I'm not this problem with Windows
[19:54] <txomon> idonolol, you were looking for kde themes, you must search gnome themes
[19:54] <chuck1310> I tried to reinstall or to change of linux distribution but i'ts the same
[19:54] <pyksy_> Hi, I have an Atom N330 based Asus eeebox EB1012 which I just upgraded from Maveric to Oneiric. My problem is that the kernel 3.0.0-14 keeps crashing with 100% probability, even without proprietary NVidia gfx drivers.
[19:54] <pyksy_> Kernel 2.6.38-13 works rock solid. Is the 3.0.0-14 kernel problem a known issue?
[19:54] <idonolol> oooooo now i get it thanks txomon
[19:54] <chuck1310> I've a Dell laptop Inspirion 15
[19:55] <txomon> chuck1310, is it connected to current?
[19:55] <pyksy_> I tried googling but it my google-fu is weak..
[19:55] <txomon> pyksy_, ask #kernel
[19:56] <FreezingCold> .j
[19:56] <pyksy_> txomon: ok, will do. thanks!
[19:56] <benbloom> ok txomon. I can't help you with vino as i don't run gnome anymore. but it sounds like you need an "-auth guess" option in your vino preferences
[19:57] <txomon> benbloom, dont think so, that seems to be "enable anyone to come and see"
[19:57] <txomon> benbloom, I just need to boot it
[19:58] <benbloom> and you can't do that via ssh/command line? then that is a limitation of vino
[19:59] <txomon> yeah,... I guess
[19:59] <AzoteLogiko> hello. I cannot connect to my router using wifi and wpa. The password is ok, but the systems tells that it's wrong. I use Ubuntu 11.10
[19:59] <AzoteLogiko> any ideas, please?
[20:01] <txomon> AzoteLogiko, did you use windows with that same laptop?
[20:01] <mylnx> BLUETOOTH Help needed..Please!!!!!
[20:01] <mylnx> I get the following error message when I attempt to add a bluetooth device.
[20:01] <mylnx> “THIS FEATURE CANNOT BE ENABLED BECAUSE THE REQUIRED PACKAGES ARE NOT INSTALLED ON YOUR SYSTEM”.
[20:01] <mylnx> Thank you for you help in advance...:-)
[20:01] <FloodBot1> mylnx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:01] <y-chrmsm-adam> HALP!!!
[20:01] <y-chrmsm-adam> sound is mad noisy!!
[20:01] <y-chrmsm-adam> dunno what the hell is going on!!
[20:01] <AzoteLogiko> txomon, I cand use it to test
[20:01] <AzoteLogiko> should I do it?
[20:01] <txomon> AzoteLogiko, could be due to router restriction
[20:02] <txomon> I mean, maybe you have mac filtering in the router
[20:02] <AzoteLogiko> I dont think so, ... anyway I'm goint to try with W7 and see what happens. thank you
[20:02] <txomon> AzoteLogiko, if you dont think so,.
[20:03] <y-chrmsm-adam> any ideas about my sound problemo??
[20:03] <txomon> then you can try by changing the routers auth
[20:03] <txomon> or looking into routers auth config
[20:03] <AzoteLogiko> good idea txomon, I'll give a try
[20:04] <benbloom> txomon, what happens if you try to load vino-server via TTY?
[20:04] <mylnx> What packages do I need to install in order to enable BLUETOOTH?
[20:05] <avarisclari> hallo people, i have a quick question about the translation teams if someone can answer it
[20:05] <owenll> !ask| avarisclari
[20:06] <avarisclari> the language i want to help translate into has no team, but its on launchpad, but i can't find locale for it, so am i still able to start a team
[20:06] <Pici> avarisclari: #ubuntu-translators might be a better place to ask, but its really not as active as here.
[20:06] <avarisclari> i thought i'd ask here first, just in case
[20:06] <rabbit> Hi all.  I am having problems getting lm_sensors to work on a newer dell poweredge.  I must not have the proper mod loaded.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[20:07] <txomon> benbloom, cant open display..
[20:08] <benbloom> yeah txomon. it's the wrong tool then. u need a CLI based vnc server
[20:08] <y-chrmsm-adam> sound's gone completely now :(
[20:08] <rypervenche> txomon: x11vnc
[20:08] <avarisclari> i do have a quick technical question, is there a way to check error logs from earlier in the day?
[20:09] <avarisclari> something went wrong with my video driver i had to force reinstall
[20:09] <txomon> benbloom, but for what is then vino supposed to exist!
[20:09] <KingFisher> Hi there
[20:09] <blitz> hi
[20:10] <KingFisher> A day ago someone started pinging me nonstop causing me to have implement a firewall...
[20:10] <benbloom> mostly for when a user is on his computer and needs help from someone remotely. then they can start it up and give you access
[20:10] <KingFisher> when someone pings me on Ubuntu how I can find out the IP address that is pinging me?
[20:11] <avarisclari> i think theres a network extension on /who
[20:11] <txomon> KingFisher, try by looking at the firewall log
[20:11] <cjz> hi LTS 10.04, running on EC2, does anyone know how to get postfix to log enough to see what its actually giving the pipe daemon?
[20:11] <KingFisher> txomon, the firewall is the one in my router settings
[20:12] <KingFisher> Routers keep logs of those kind of things right?
[20:12] <avarisclari> usually ya
[20:12] <avarisclari> depends though, if you have full administrative on, and how cheap of a router
[20:13] <avarisclari> and im not talking price, but manufacture
[20:13] <txomon> avarisclari, xD
[20:13] <RingZer01> I need some permissions/ftpd help.  I can su - myuser; mkdir x; (makes dir just fine) -- ftp myuser@localhost mkdir x; Permission Denied --- using vsftpd
[20:13] <avarisclari> well sometimes you spend upwards of several hundred dollars for something that the 40 dollar alternative is better
[20:13] <oCean> KingFisher: if they are actually pinging the interface on your ubuntu machine, you can see source address with  sudo tcpdump -i eth0 icmp   (where eth0 is your interface of course)
[20:14] <bullgard6> '~$ ps aux | grep gajim;  /usr/bin/python -OO gajim.py'.  I cannot see Gajim's program window. How can I make visible Gajim's program window? [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1]
[20:14] <KingFisher> oCean, what do you mean by interface?
[20:14] <oCean> KingFisher: network device, could be eth0, wlan0 etc
[20:14] <avarisclari> gajim as in bit.trip.runner?
[20:15] <Pici> avarisclari: its an xmpp client.
[20:15] <avarisclari> sorry i was thinking gaijin lol
[20:16] <avarisclari> i'm gonna stick around though, if i can help yay, but i can still learn
[20:16] <KingFisher> oCean, Do all pings belong to the ICMP protocol?
[20:16] <avarisclari> how long are error logs stored for?
[20:17] <avarisclari> i know some distros overwrite each reboot
[20:17] <bullgard6> depends on the particular log.
[20:17] <avarisclari> in this case my video card, i had to force uninstall
[20:17] <avarisclari> and reinstall
[20:17] <oCean> KingFisher: yes, a ping is one host sending an icmp request, waiting for the other host to send icmp reply
[20:18] <loganirc> I am trying to add an application to the quick launch buttons. I used Dash Home to find the app then dragged it into the bar on the side. it left a space for the app but the icon did not show up. how do I fix this?
[20:18] <KingFisher> Thanks oCean
[20:18] <RingZer01> it appears my vsftpd.conf needed write_enable=YES
[20:18] <loganirc> if I click on the blank space it left it does launch the application
[20:18] <loganirc> tried it a couple times
[20:19] <oCean> KingFisher: welcome
[20:19] <bullgard6> avarisclari: My oldest Xorg log dates back from Nov. 17.
[20:20] <Oer> loganirc, don't drag it there, open the app, when running, right-click on the icon, select keep on launcher.
[20:20] <attlux>  /join #algerie
[20:20] <benbloom> txomon, i suggest you read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10468727 however, there are serious security concerns mentioned in post #49 & #50 i still say that installing x11vnc is easy and safe and will have the desired effect
[20:20] <bullgard6> attlux: remove the leading space.
[20:20] <loganirc> Oer, o.k. I'll try that
[20:21] <txomon> benbloom, oki thank you for continuing with that
[20:21] <Rosha> hey guys ! i think my package manager confused ! i have kubuntu and when i install kdepim i have 1.4 GB package to install... packages that they aren't dependecy of kdepim ! like python and etc...
[20:22] <loganirc> Oer: it doesn't appear on the launcher
[20:22] <loganirc> Oer:weird, maybe I should try logging out or something
[20:22] <Ben64> Rosha: "This metapackage includes a collection of Personal Information Management (PIM) applications provided with the official release of KDE."
[20:23] <txomon> benbloom, at the end #50 is the solution... but for that, i use vnc... will ask in ubuntu list to see that
[20:24] <Rosha> Ben64: well i have latest version of KDE ! but some dependencies is not for kde and kdepim !
[20:25] <Chotaz`> !n Bones
[20:25] <txomon> benbloom, I just thought an stupid workaround... Autologin feature
[20:25] <benbloom> well yeah!
[20:25] <txomon> xD
[20:25] <Ben64> rosha: it is a large collection of packages, and each one has dependencies
[20:26] <broski> lol
[20:27] <txomon> broski, ?
[20:28] <TheLastPoet> hey all I am getting this error dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/updatea/0139 near line 0: newline in field name '#padding'
[20:29] <TheLastPoet> that was after running sudo dpkg --configure -a to fix an package installer error I am getting
[20:29] <TheLastPoet> Any solutions?
[20:30] <curran> is there a way to create a folder symlink type of scenario on a live usb filesystem > another folder on a separate partition?  Windows will only recognize the active partition; if a usb has multiple partitions, so I would like to be able to save files and not clog up my live env
[20:30] <txomon> curran, no
[20:31] <curran> come on.
[20:31] <txomon> curran, is not posible
[20:31] <ssta> TheLastPoet: did you run out of diskspace?
[20:31] <txomon> lot of people thought about it
[20:31] <avarisclari> anyone know how to read an xorg log for times?
[20:32] <txomon> the best workaround, is to mount a ntfs partition as home
[20:32] <curran> u could with each windows working in the filesystem, but the second partition would need to be writable by windows and it's only for that machine each time, so useless
[20:32] <txomon> curran,
[20:33] <txomon> ?
[20:33] <RadiumOxide> I'm trying to boot an OS from USB but I have multiple internal drivers so it appears I have to specify which one (via root=/dev/sdd1) but then what do I do to boot from it?
[20:33] <ssta> avarisclari: the timestamp is the number of seconds since system start (I think)
[20:35] <rysiu> elo
[20:35] <abhinavmehta> In man-pages, there is a "SEE ALSO" section, where we use to find some more pointers with some integer associated with. Now my question is…how to jump on those see-also sections..
[20:35] <rysiu> siema jest ktos ?
[20:36] <wavedigit> Hi, lets say I want to continuously monitor battery by doing 'watch -n1 cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state', but I want to (put it in the background), and trigger an event when it goes to something else than 'charging', would I have to program a daemon or can I use something else?
[20:36] <avarisclari> well the thing is i had to restart due to a crash and then i had to force my video driver to uninstall/reinstall
[20:36] <Pici> !pl | rysiu
[20:36] <avarisclari> so i don't know how to read this at all lol
[20:36] <abhinavmehta> is there is some way, I can directly invoke those SEE-ALSO from command line..?
[20:36] <avarisclari> sorry about any delays in my updates though, i'm trying to find it on google too
[20:37] <rysiu> #ubuntu-pl
[20:37] <rysiu> hey
[20:37] <rysiu> yhi
[20:38] <txomon> abhinavmehta, nop
[20:38] <loganirc> how do I create a launcher for an app
[20:39] <txomon> see .desktop syntax
[20:39] <loganirc> tried right clicking on the launcher bar, but that doesn't seem to bring up any options
[20:39] <avarisclari> aha! i found where my driver died, now to figure out what time that was.....
[20:39] <thyrant> I am thinking about updating my ubuntu server 9.10 .. how much trouble might I be in if I do so?
[20:40] <avarisclari> anyone know what time 40527.629 would be on xorg
[20:40] <txomon> avarisclari, maybe #kernel?
[20:40] <txomon> 40 secs
[20:40] <avarisclari> thanks
[20:41] <loganirc> does anyone have any idea how I create a luancher icon for a binary file that does not have one
[20:42] <ssta> avarisclari: something like 11 hours kernel time since the last restart (but there are multiple kernel timers, not sure which one it's using exactly)
[20:42] <avarisclari> okay thank you
[20:43] <ssta> maybe I'm wrong...pretty sure it's seconds on some kernel timer though
[20:43] <avarisclari> sorry to have bothered you guys with my troubles, i just want to find what caused it and put it up on launchpad
[20:43] <ssta> no worries, it's an interesting question
[20:43] <avarisclari> so if it is a major issue it can get fixed
[20:43] <txomon> ssta, its in ms always I think
[20:44] <Kimble> Hi. running "sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000" on my laptop with Gb ethernet installed returns only "SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument". Ub 11.10. Any advice?
[20:44] <avarisclari> and it wouldn't surprise my on 11 hours, my laptop was on from 11 pm till about 2 pm
[20:44] <Kimble> Tried also with "mtu 7200" with the same result.
[20:44] <avarisclari> somewhere around there
[20:44] <almoxarife> loganirc: find a jpg/png that fits your needs, the launcher can point at a local file
[20:45] <Kimble> I added the line "mtu 9000" to the eth0 section of /etc/network/interfaces, but on reboot the MTU for eth0 is still 1500.
[20:46] <ssta> txomon: hmm, google seems to think seconds since last boot, but maybe I'm misunderstanding something.  It's an awkward way to timestamp something anyway imo
[20:46] <almoxarife> Kimble: network manager not working?
[20:46] <Deathfinder> !
[20:46] <bullgard6> '~$ ps aux | grep gajim;  /usr/bin/python -OO gajim.py'.  I cannot see Gajim's program window. How can I make visible Gajim's program window? [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1]
[20:46] <Kimble> almoxarife: oh, should have said I'm doing this all over SSH. my laptop runs the server edition of Ub. No GUI.
[20:48] <almoxarife> Kimble: got you,
[20:48] <jwac> hey...using nullmailer here, how do I clear out the mailq?
[20:48] <bs_> how to run subtitle for movie ?
[20:48] <Boom_Farmer> Does anyone here have experience with the 'Jupiter' laptop power management tools? http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/jupiter-applet-finally-available-for.html
[20:49] <Bublik2002> i have a dell e6410 laptop and for some reason strange things happen when i try to resume from suspend... i see theres a bug out for this... is there a way to fix it?
[20:49] <ssta> Kimble: are you getting IP via DHCP?  MTU setting is taken from DHCP server in that case I think
[20:50] <Kimble> ssta: aha, yes, this is being assigned by my router. That must be it.
[20:50] <almoxarife> Bublik2002: i would not say 'blame dell' if i didnt own one and see the same and worse associated with suspend
[20:50] <Bublik2002> i didnt get what you meant by that comment
[20:50] <oCean> jwac: has been a while, but I think it is nullmailer-send command?
[20:51] <avarisclari> hmm... i purged the crashed driver for my reinstall, but would the log still exist
[20:51] <jwac> oCean: the problem is I mistakingly tried to send an email to a non-local account so it's sitting in there constantly retrying and always failing
[20:52] <Kimble> ssta: i've never set up a static address for a port in "interfaces" before. If i just specify the address for the port, will network, gateway and netmask be provided automagically?
[20:52] <oCean> jwac: oh, in that case I would just delete the messages from var/spool/nullmailer/queue
[20:52] <h00k> Kimble: no, you'll need to specify those as well
[20:52] <Boom_Farmer> Does installing laptop-mode-tools automatically activate laptop mode, or do I have to manually activate laptop mode?
[20:52] <[Linuxfan]> Under SEH Team
[20:52] <Kimble> h00k: Ah. I'll confess I don't know how to determine those.  Where would I find them?
[20:53] <reapingwo> hey I'm having trouble shutting down without a hard reset, how do I begin finding the culprit?
[20:53] <robbbie> reapingwo: check the logs
[20:53] <ssta> Kimble: no, you have to provide them
[20:54] <reapingwo> yeah I figured but I was wondering if there was a search term that I could search for
[20:54] <h00k> Kimble: Uuum, I haven't been following the help thread on your issue, I don't know exactly what you're doing. The gateway address will be whatever address your router is, and the subnet/netmask will depend on what class network you're using
[20:54] <reapingwo> grep shutdown /var/log/syslog or something?
[20:55] <Kimble> h00k: gateway = router address. Cool :) Got it. And the network address?
[20:55] <robbbie> reapingwo: tail -f /var/log/syslog and then try your shutdown
[20:55] <h00k> Kimble: if it's a home router, It would probably be gateway: 192.168.0.1, netmask = 255.255.255.0
[20:55] <h00k> Kimble: what's the address of the router?
[20:55] <Kimble> h00k: the netmask I found already
[20:55] <Kimble> Um, 10.0.1.1
[20:56] <ssta> Kimble: http://pastebin.com/23b4xy3S is mine, you can use it to get the syntax
[20:56] <reapingwo> what does tail do?
[20:56] <ssta> and 10.0.1.1 is NOT your netmask
[20:56] <ssta> (almost certainly)
[20:56] <ssta> reapingwo: show the last lines from a file
[20:56] <h00k> Kimble: so...probably 255.0.0.0 for a netmask, maybe?
[20:56] <reapingwo> oh ok. it just returned some of my network manager actions
[20:57] <Kimble> ssta: lol, that was my router's ip, in response to h00k's question.
[20:57] <ssta> Kimble: ah, sorry, I misunderstood (you'd be amazed though, I've seen people set netmasks like that by mistake)
[20:57] <Kimble> h00k: it's ok. According to ssta's pastebin of his interfaces file, "network" doesn't appear to be a required variable.
[20:57] <robbbie> reapingwo: tail prints the "tail" of a file, but tail -f outputs data written to the file to stdout
[20:58] <Kimble> ssta: Even the experts make mistakes, right ;)
[20:58] <h00k> Kimble: netmask, probably something like 255.0.0.0, but I don't know.  If you can get to your router, you can find it's netmask somewhere in it's config
[20:59] <Kimble> h00k: yeah, I found it. 255.255.255.0. Thank you :)  Rebooting the laptop now.
[20:59] <reapingwo> oh I see thanks.  I'll write the tail command in my notes.  seems useful.  Meanwhile in my logs I found some force deaths.  is that part of the shutdown procedure?
[20:59] <h00k> Kimble: it doesn't really matter, as long as subnets match across your network :) Good luck
[21:00] <imgrey> good evening #ubuntu
[21:00] <imgrey> what is your latest branch ?
[21:00] <imgrey> lucid ?
[21:00] <ssta> generally network can be inferred from netmask...you only need to set it if it's unusual
[21:00] <reapingwo> stdout means I read it from the terminal, yes?
[21:00] <reapingwo> am I back?
[21:00] <reapingwo> dang wireless :P
[21:00] <Chotaz`> Weird question: Is it possible to use my Xbox360 Wireless Controll + Play N Charge cable to use the controller on ubuntu?
[21:01] <reapingwo> Chotaz`, nope.  I tried to use it with skyrim.  The play n charge wont work.  you need a real wired controller
[21:01] <Chotaz`> reapingwo: skyrim on ubuntu?
[21:01] <ssfdre38> how can i get port 6667 allowed on iptables
[21:01] <reapingwo> nope on win7, but the play n charge cable does not send any info, just a charge
[21:01] <ssta> Kimble:if you do ifconfig -a on the DHCP acquired address, you can get netmask from there, and gateway from route -n
[21:02] <Chotaz`> reapingwo: ok, thanks :)
[21:02] <reapingwo> I would like to try skyrim on ubuntu but I got lots a stuff to get out of the way first
[21:02] <tfitts> this message isn't really specific to ubuntu but I thought maybe someone here would know.  If you have multiple (in some cases overlapping) wireless access points that you want to roam between, is it better to have them with the same name or different?  Would the channels they are on matter more than the name?
[21:03] <avarisclari> anyone know how to tell for a hard shutdown in kern.log
[21:04] <Boom_Farmer> tfitts: The uni where I am has several tens of wifi APs, all with the same name. They're all on different channels.
[21:04] <ssta> ssfdre38: allowed in or out?
[21:04] <avarisclari> the SSID of wireless is what matteres (and encyrption)
[21:04] <ssfdre38> ssta, both
[21:04] <ssfdre38> i just tried iptables -A OUTPUT -s tcp --dport 6667 -j ACCEPT
[21:04] <avarisclari> If you can connect its fine, if not then its not letting you due to configuration
[21:05] <tfitts> Boom_Farmer, are you more likely to hit a dead spot or can you tell if they overlap?
[21:05] <ssta> ssfdre38: looks about right to me
[21:05] <Boom_Farmer> tfitts: There are a couple of dead spots where there aren't any APs nearby.
[21:05] <ssfdre38> ssta, its says --dport is not a vaild command for iptables
[21:05] <ssta> ssfdre38: ah, -p tcp
[21:06] <ssta> -s is source address, -p is protocol
[21:06] <jwac> can someone do me a favor (if you got nullmailer) and see what permissions the /var/spool/nullmailer/queue folder is supposed to have
[21:06] <robbbie> ssfdre38: -d6667
[21:06] <Boom_Farmer> tfitts: There aren't really any blind spots near antennas - the channels don't interfere much, though that is probably the result of many channels and a carefully laid out 3-dimensional grid of overlapping APs.
[21:06] <robbbie> ssfdre38: er no scratch that :P
[21:06] <bs_> dos compiz work for gnome on ubuntu 11.10
[21:07] <ssta> robbbie: umm, -d is destination address, not port :)
[21:07] <robbbie> ssta: yeah i am retard
[21:07] <tfitts> ok, I'm just trying to figure out wifi here.  I've got 3 access points and sometimes being right underneath one it seems like it is dead
[21:08] <jwac> tfitts: check the channels
[21:08] <jwac> tfittsL they're probably overlapping
[21:08] <cjz> can anyone help with my postfix debugging?
[21:08] <cjz> is there a better channel?
[21:08] <h00k> cjz: maybe #ubuntu-server could help
[21:09] <Seveas> cjz, what's the problem?
[21:09] <ubahtek> is there a built in way to share a drive with windows computers on a local network?
[21:09] <Seveas> I've done a fair bit of work with postfix
[21:09] <tfitts> jwac: they're on channels 4,6, and 11
[21:09] <Seveas> ubahtek, yeah, search for 'shared folders' in the launcher
[21:10] <jwac> tfitts: that's why
[21:10] <jwac> tfitts: 11 is okay, but 4 and 6 are too close
[21:10] <Kimble> ssta: thanks, just so your las message. Turns out my changes to the interfaces file broke my LAN connection, so I just performed an emergency replacement with the default file. I'll post my borked interfaces file on pastebin for advice, if that's ok?
[21:10] <tfitts> so like 1, 6, 11?
[21:10] <jwac> tfitts: instead of 4, use channel 1
[21:10] <ssta> Kimble: sure
[21:10] <ubahtek> it pulled up "personal file sharing" and the dialog says " this feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system"
[21:11] <jwac> tfitts: make sure there are no other nearby wireless devices transmitting on channel 1 or 2 though
[21:11] <ssta> Kimble: also paste output of ifconfig -a and route -an (when you're on the working link)
[21:11] <ubahtek> this is a fresh default install
[21:11] <Seveas> ubahtek, hmm, for me it offers to install those. If it doesn't, install samba from the software center
[21:11] <hitpaki> sziasztok!
[21:12] <jwac> tfitts: I'm not 100% sure that'll fix your problem, but it's a good place to start.
[21:12] <reapingwo> Jan  5 14:33:58 rolandpc AptDaemon.Worker: INFO: Upgrade system with safe mode: 1
[21:12] <almoxarife> tfitts: i find around me where there are alot of wifi signals that (8) is the least used
[21:12] <reapingwo> I found a 6 minute pause in the log where I rerbooted following that line
[21:12] <jwac> I scan about once a week to see what channel is least used.
[21:13] <tfitts> jwac: scan using what?
[21:13] <almoxarife> tfitts: kismet
[21:13] <chrislsp> I'm looking for a PSU Fan speed control tool.I want to make it quiter.Any ideas for an ubuntu freeware?
[21:13] <jwac> tfitts: tomato...ddwrt
[21:13] <Kimble> ssta: ok, here's the borked interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/qmnhvRG4
[21:13] <jwac> tfitts: custom router firmware
[21:13] <tfitts> jwac: yeah, I run ddwrt
[21:13] <jwac> tfitts: well, aftermarket customizable...not custom
[21:13] <almoxarife> tfitts: kismet <-- open source and avail on repos
[21:14] <hitpaki> van itt valaki?
[21:14] <jwac> tfitt: ddwrt should have a scanner tool to show the least used channel or, at the very least, what everone is using
[21:14] <Seveas> Kimble, mtu 9000 might not work
[21:14] <Seveas> try removing that
[21:14] <Kimble> Seveas: I couldn't find the max value for my chipset
[21:14] <Kimble> Seveas: but it is a Gb ethernet NIC.
[21:15] <Seveas> Kimble, it's not just your chipset that needs to support it, the other end also needs to
[21:15] <Seveas> (other end being the switch/device you're connecting to)
[21:15] <ubahtek> I installed samba from the software center, rebooted, and still get the same message
[21:15] <Kimble> Seveas: oh, there's no issue there. My Airport Base Station and connected Macs, and the unmanaged switch, are all Gb.
[21:15] <Seveas> that says nothing about the supported mtu
[21:16] <Kimble> Seveas: true, all I can say is that my Macs all run with Jumbo frames, going through the switch and the router, and no issues so far.
[21:16] <almoxarife> ubahtek: what are you trying to do with samba?
[21:16] <ubahtek> I just want to share a drive on a local network
[21:16] <ssta> Kimble: does the router allow you to statically assign .8?  Mine won't allow me to assign anything in the dhcp range statically
[21:17] <Seveas> Kimble, ok, then it is probably your chipset indeed, I was just being thorough :)
[21:17] <Kimble> Seveas: appreciated :)
[21:17] <ubahtek> the "personal file sharing" dialog from the launcher says the feature cannot be enabled
[21:17] <Kimble> ssta: sure, my router's fine with that.
[21:18] <Kimble> ssta: here's the ifconfig -a (redacted): http://pastebin.com/3vfn3gCG
[21:18] <Seveas> ubahtek, I don't think it's the "personal file sharing" you want, that looks like the bluetooth app. You want "shared folders"
[21:18] <almoxarife> !who | ubahtek
[21:19] <ubahtek> Seveas: "shared folders" doesn't pull up in my launcher
[21:19] <Seveas> ubahtek, hmm, I'll try to dig up the package name
[21:19] <Kimble> ssta: and finally, the result of route -n: http://pastebin.com/KmEzWh3t
[21:20] <Kimble> Seveas: you wouldn't happen to know an iterative way of determining my chipset's max mtu?
[21:20] <jwac> So is there a reason my nullmailer decided to stop sending emails?  They're just sitting in my queue...
[21:20] <ssta> Kimble: That should be correct then.  I guess first step is to drop MTU to 1500 in the static config and see if that works (if so then it's the MTU it's not liking).  If not, then try settign the static to something outside the dhcp range to see if it helps
[21:20] <Seveas> ubahtek, it's part of gnome-system-tools, it's called shares-admin
[21:21] <Kimble> ssta: good advice. On it now.
[21:21] <kanupatar> how can I do print screen from shell prompt?
[21:21] <kanupatar> any commands available?
[21:21] <ubuntu> where am i
[21:21] <Seveas> Kimble, I haven't played an awful lot with jumbo frames. Most of my mtu adventures are around broken networks requiring a lower mtu without properly supporting path mtu detection
[21:22] <Kimble> Seveas: ok :)
[21:22] <Seveas> kanupatar, import -format png screenshot.png
[21:22] <Seveas> kanupatar, 'import' is part of imagemagick
[21:22] <kanupatar> Seveas: is that available in linux? i mean that command?
[21:23] <Seveas> kanupatar, yes, if you install the imagemagick package
[21:23] <lala_> Hello
[21:23] <Seveas> kanupatar, there's also 'scrot'
[21:23] <kanupatar> Seveas: is there any default software?
[21:23] <almoxarife> Kimble: are you getting errors associated with mtu?
[21:23] <kanupatar> Seveas: what is the command?
[21:23] <Seveas> kanupatar, nothing command line installed by default I think
[21:23] <ubuntu> how do i get a channel list
[21:23] <Seveas> /list
[21:24] <ubuntu> this is isnt like mIRC
[21:24] <ubuntu> thanks
[21:24] <kanupatar> Seveas: so import -format png screenshot.png will work by default ?
[21:24] <Kimble> almoxarife: well, I'm in the process of trying to increase my NICs MTU to accommodate jumbo frames, but having issues.
[21:24] <oCean> !alis > ubuntu
[21:24] <Seveas> kanupatar, no, you need to install the imagemagick package
[21:24] <kanupatar> Seveas: ok
[21:24] <kanupatar> Seveas: let me try
[21:24] <guntbert> Seveas: using /list  will hurt him
[21:24] <Seveas> kanupatar, but scrot is probably easier to use
[21:25] <zxiest> Let's say I want to put a couple terminal commands in a file in order to be able to execute them without having to type both of them. How can I "execute" this file?
[21:25] <almoxarife> Kimble: you have exceeded my meager leanins in mtu :) , good luck
[21:25] <kanupatar> Seveas: how can I use it?
[21:25] <jucedogi> anyone know how to prevent screen distortion when upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10?
[21:25] <Seveas> kanupatar, install the scrot package. Run the command 'scrot'
[21:25] <Kimble> ssta: aha, the static addressing works with an MTU of 1500. Guess it didn't like 9000 then?
[21:25] <ubahtek> Seveas: I'm still a little lost, I just installed gnome-system-tools with apt-get and "shared folders" is still nowhere to be found
[21:25] <kanupatar> Seveas: great , then whre it will be stored?
[21:26] <Kimble> almoxarife: lol, I'm no expert either - just trying to improve my network by Googling for advice! :)
[21:26] <Seveas> kanupatar, not sure, read the manpage :)
[21:26] <ssta> Kimble: well, binary search to find the highest it likes then? :)
[21:26] <almoxarife> Kimble: here is what i learned about mtu, keep it at 1500 unless otherwise
[21:26] <Seveas> (I've never used scrot, 'import' only once or twice. I use shutter for screenshots, but that's a gui)
[21:27] <kanupatar> Seveas: ok, can u expalin the first command ?
[21:27] <Kimble> ssta: what's a "binary search"?
[21:27] <Kimble> ssta: you mean, trial and error?
[21:27] <Seveas> kanupatar, why don't you just try it and read the manpage. Much easier to learn that way
[21:27] <almoxarife> ubahtek: where are you looking for 'sharing'?
[21:27] <Seveas> Kimble, organized trial and error, minimizing the amount of tries
[21:27] <kanupatar> Seveas: ok, thanks
[21:27] <zxiest> How can I execute a file that contains terminal commands?
[21:27] <Kimble> Seveas: gotcha.
[21:27] <ssta> Kimble: try halfway between what you know works and what you know doesn't (say 5000), if that works then halfway between 5000 and 9000, if it doesn't then halfway between 1500 and 5000...
[21:28] <ubahtek> in the launcher
[21:28] <Seveas> zxiest, bash file.name.here
[21:28] <ubahtek> almoxarife: in the launcher
[21:28] <almoxarife> ubahtek: what launcher?\name it
[21:28] <ssta> Kimble: any particular reason you want a large MTU?
[21:28] <Seveas> almoxarife, the unity launcher
[21:28] <zxiest> Seveas cool.. let's see :-)
[21:29] <Seveas> ubahtek, you may need to log out and log back in for ubuntu to find it.
[21:29] <Seveas> or even restart
[21:29] <Kimble> ssta: well, purely because all my network devices and cabling support Gb ethernet.  It seemed a simple way to improve network speeds between the server and the rest of the network.
[21:29] <almoxarife> ubahtek: if you open nautilus and right click on a folder in your home folder you should see 'sharing'
[21:29] <ubahtek> almoxarife: rebooting
[21:30] <almoxarife> ubahtek: if you want to, it has been there since your last boot
[21:30] <Seveas> Kimble, increasing the mtu isn't really going to improve speed for many things.
[21:30] <ssta> Kimble: it rarely makes any real difference...network isn't usually a bottlenexk anyway
[21:30] <Laurenceb_> im trying to run cadsoft eagle - pcb editor
[21:30] <zxiest> Seveas perfect! :-)
[21:30] <Laurenceb_> but if i try to run it by double clicking, or the launcher menu, it fails
[21:30] <ssta> Kimble: generally a network will run faster than the disk reading/writing data
[21:30] <guntbert> Kimble: you don't want to use with your MTU usually
[21:31] <Kimble> Seveas: That's true. But I use my network for a lot of media sharing (movies especially), so i thought it might improve performance and reduce load on the server.
[21:31] <Laurenceb_> i can only run the binary from the command line
[21:31] <Seveas> ssta, depends. If you have ssd's or fusionio, your network might be slower :)
[21:31] <bs_> how to mount iso file
[21:31] <Seveas> Kimble, it definitely won't reduce load. And if your data is on rotating rust, a high mtu won't help
[21:31] <micetzhu> install mount-manager
[21:31] <zxiest> Seveas I have 2 commands in 1 file. would the second line wait for the first line to complete when I do bash filename.ext ?
[21:31] <guntbert> !iso | bs_
[21:32] <ubahtek> almoxarife: that seems to work, is there a way to do an entire drive?
[21:32] <Seveas> zxiest, usually yes, unless you end line one with an &
[21:32] <Kimble> Seveas: won't it reduce the number of packets my server has to frame to send large amounts of data?
[21:32] <Seveas> & at the end means "launch in the background"
[21:32] <zxiest> Seveas cool! Thanks :-) Much appreciated :-)
[21:32] <zxiest> Seveas and comments would start with a # ?
[21:33] <Seveas> Kimble, for the speeds needed for media sharing, I've found this barely (if at all) noticeable. YMMV
[21:33] <almoxarife> ubahtek: that requires root, you might be better off with sftp if you want to offer up the whole thing
[21:33] <Seveas> zxiest, correct
[21:33] <Seveas> !abs
[21:33] <Seveas> !abs | zxiest, read this too for much more info
[21:33] <ubahtek> almoxarife: I just want the windows machines on the network to be able to browse it like normal
[21:33] <zxiest> Seveas thank you very much! :-)!
[21:33] <Kimble> brb. mtu 7200 borked the eth0 port again...
[21:33] <Seveas> zxiest, despite the name containing 'advanced', it's good for new users too :)
[21:35] <Kimble> Actually, here's a thing: when my ub11.10 server can't find the network, it wastes up to 2 minutes waiting before continuing the boot process. How can I change that?
[21:35] <ssta> depends what exactly is hanging waiting for network
[21:35] <almoxarife> ubahtek: you could start nautilus as root, 'gksu nautilus' and repeat the steps, i am not sure thats a good idea though, its up to you
[21:35] <Seveas> Kimble, 'can't find the network' sounds like you're doing dhcp and get timeouts. Use static ip addresses :)
[21:36] <Kimble> The issue is only happening because I'm messing with the interfaces file. Otherwise, it's fine.
[21:36] <Kimble> It says, "trying for a further 60 seconds before proceeding with boot". Can I reduce or remove that figure?
[21:37] <Seveas> are you using dhcp?
[21:37] <just187> where does ubuntu store the apt cache ?
[21:37] <guntbert> ubahtek: running nautilus as root is certainly a bad idea ™
[21:37] <Seveas> (as in: you said you restored the default file, which does that)
[21:38] <aeon-ltd> just187: /var/ somewhere iirc
[21:38] <almoxarife> just187: /etc/apt/cache , i think
[21:38] <aeon-ltd> i stand corrected
[21:38] <Seveas> both wrong :)
[21:38] <Seveas> just187, /var/cache/apt/packages
[21:39]  * aeon-ltd hangs head in shame
[21:39] <Seveas> but it doens't keep them there very long
[21:39] <almoxarife> Seveas: si, i stand corrected
[21:39] <Kimble> Seveas: dhcp actually works fine, it's when I use the static address with a new MTU that the boot-up stalls.
[21:39] <ssta> just187: /var/lib/apt/lists IIRC
[21:39] <ssta> or the cached packages?  that's /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:39] <Seveas> just187, /var/cache/apt/archives even ;)
[21:39] <Kimble> But never mind. This MTU adventure has run its course. I'll leave it alone - if it ain't broke, right? :)
[21:39] <Seveas> heh, ssta just a bit quicker :)
[21:40] <Seveas> Kimble, always good advice
[21:41] <guntbert> almoxarife: if you find something like a cache under /etc then someone did something really bad to your system :)
[21:41] <Kimble> So, does anyone know of a simple SNMP monitor package? I have to monitor the amount of data passing through my router's WAN (internet) port between 4pm and 9pm.
[21:41] <Seveas> guntbert, they may be settings for a cache ;)
[21:41] <Seveas> Kimble, mrtg, cacti, zabbix
[21:41] <meerkats> i play openarena, apparently I cannot use any other app while in the game, I have to exit and use the app i need, are there any shortcuts for this situations?
[21:41] <Kimble> ssta & Seveas : thanks for the help with the MTU, btw. much appreciated.
[21:41] <anmar`> Kimble: did you try "apt-cache search snmp" and see what comes up?
[21:41] <almoxarife> guntbert: i will keep that in mind, thnks
[21:41] <guntbert> Seveas: of course, was my wording ambiguous?
[21:42] <Seveas> Kimble, though, despite the fact that the "S" in "SNMP" means "Simple", there's not much that's simple about it :P
[21:42] <ssta> Kimble: no worries, good luck with it
[21:42] <Kimble> anmar`: no, but that probably wouldn't help me simply because I wouldn't know which packages were accessible on my level of skill and knowledge. Thanks tho :)
[21:42] <ssta> nagios isn't all that bad once you get used to it
[21:42] <ssta> it abstracts most of the tricky stuff away
[21:42] <anmar`> Kimble: sorry dude.. I wish I could help.
[21:42] <JasonGriffee> How to I check to see which video driver is in use?
[21:42] <Kimble> anmar`: no worries :)
[21:43] <Seveas> I love nagios. It keeps me awake at night :)
[21:43] <Seveas> but it doesn't do measuring or graphing, so Kimble can't use it
[21:43] <ssta> I have an android app I wrote that does the same
[21:43] <domedagen> I'm having some trouble installing Ubuntu on an SSD. It is already installed and running(typing from it now) but the boot loader is acting weird. I used to have Ubuntu on my HDD and boot from it but now Ubuntu is installed and HDD formated.
[21:43] <ssta> there are plugins for that I think
[21:43] <Kimble> nagios? that's an SNMP package? oh, and Seveas: you're write about the irony of the S in SNMP :P
[21:43] <meerkats> is it dangerous to edit /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config to read "alloed_users=anybody" instead of "allowed_users=console"
[21:43] <Kimble> ^right^ not write. bloody hell.
[21:44] <ssta> Kimble: no, it's a monitoring tool...one of the things it can monitor (and report on) is snmp data
[21:44] <domedagen> However when I set BIOS to boot from SSD it fails and when I set it to boot from HDD GRUB is loaded and I can pick the the latest version on the SSD
[21:45] <almoxarife> is snort the adult version of nagios?
[21:45] <domedagen> Any ideas why I can't boot from SSD?
[21:45] <Kimble> ssta: ok, I'll check that out. ta.
[21:45] <jxshxx> I'm having trouble solving "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" on Lucid.  I have a Live CD that works on other computers, but no on the one with the problem.  Any suggestions?
[21:45] <ssta> almoxarife: snort is an intrusion detection system
[21:45] <ChristianAdamski> Hi, I activated the Canonical Partner repository, but cannot find the package "skype" - help
[21:45] <almoxarife> ssta: noooooooooooooooooooo
[21:45] <ssta> it's not?
[21:45] <domedagen> ChristianAdamski: Did you wait for it to install de new repository?
[21:46] <ChristianAdamski> domedagen: I did a apt-get update afterwards
[21:46] <almoxarife> ssta: its an educational tool for personal use when i used it, you right
[21:46] <karl-augustt> hi every body , i have a problem on my linux distro, segmentation fault at booting
[21:46] <karl-augustt> is there someone who have an idea?
[21:46] <h00k> karl-augustt: I'd do a memtest right away
[21:47] <almoxarife> karl-augustt: dont be afraid, what distro?
[21:47] <ssta> almoxarife: I feel like I'm missing a joke somewhere :)
[21:47] <karl-augustt> almoxarife, ubuntu
[21:48] <Kimble> Ok, I'm off. Thanks to all for their helpful advice and assistance :)
[21:48] <aBound> Hey does someone know how I can enable the numeric keypad on my laptop?
[21:48] <domedagen> ChristianAdamski: Do you insist on using the terminal? Why don't you use the Software Center?
[21:49] <almoxarife> karl-augustt: pastebin the kern.log
[21:49] <ChristianAdamski> domedagen: I am using synaptic, no skype in partners for me, only adobe stuff and "centriy express"
[21:50] <rypervenche> !info skype
[21:50] <worm> \join ubuntu-br
[21:51] <domedagen> ChristianAdamski: what if you " apt-cache search skype "?
[21:51] <karl-augustt> almoxarife, I can not boot my ubuntu, even in generic mode, it told me that /dev/sda6 has not been correctly unmounted, what do you think about?
[21:51] <ChristianAdamski> 2x pidgin-skype and 1x earcandy
[21:52] <domedagen> ChristianAdamski: Below earcandy Skype appears for me
[21:52] <rypervenche> ChristianAdamski: Not sure if the skype in the repos is up-to-date, you may want to get it from http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/
[21:52] <domedagen> I installed using Software Center though
[21:52] <almoxarife> ChristianAdamski: pidgin skype needs the skype package, but i was going to use skype it would be thru pidgin,
[21:52] <rypervenche> Someone using the most recent version of Ubuntu type "skype -version" in the terminal
[21:53] <txomon> rypervenche, why dont you use apt-cache?
[21:53] <h00k> rypervenche: Skype 2.2.0.35 here.
[21:53] <rypervenche> txomon: Because I use Debian. :)
[21:53] <almoxarife> perhaps the skype web page has the package just waiting for someone to d/l
[21:53] <hateb> anyway to turn off unity sidebar ?
[21:54] <txomon> rypervenche, and what?
[21:54] <hateb> or at least customize it
[21:54] <rypervenche> txomon: So I couldn't check Ubuntu's version of Skype.
[21:54] <rypervenche> ChristianAdamski: Yeah, the repo's version is fine then.
[21:54] <guntbert> !nounity | hateb
[21:54] <almoxarife> karl-augustt: i dont know what to think
[21:54] <avarisclari> is there a ubuntu events team
[21:55] <hateb> ok, thanks
[21:55] <ChristianAdamski> okay... will try again with software center
[21:56] <domedagen> ChristianAdamski: What do you see in Software Sources?
[21:56] <karl-augustt> ok , no problem , I  hope one another.
[21:56] <carl__> lu
[21:56] <almoxarife> why would skype be in software center but not avail thru synaptic? that does not seem proper if true
[21:56] <ChristianAdamski> Oh, I think I found the problem. Skype is enforcing i386? I deactivated that
[21:56] <guntbert> karl-augustt: is /dev/sda6 a NTFS partition?
[21:57] <avarisclari> ... what the?
[21:57] <avarisclari> that was weird, went to join another channel and it didn't do anything
[21:57] <skagedal_> I get big yellow rectangles stuck on my screen. They go away when switching workspace. Anyone know what that is and how to solve it?
[21:58] <karl-augustt> guntbert: I think that an ext2
[21:58] <ChristianAdamski> Hmm, that is odd. In the canonical partner repository, there are amd64 packages for all releases, except oneiric
[21:58] <almoxarife> skagedal_: stick-ums?
[21:58] <ChristianAdamski> see: http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/s/skype/ no amd64 for oneiric
[21:59] <domedagen> ChristianAdamski: :(
[21:59] <JasonGriffee> I am trying to install fglrx, fglrxinfo outputs this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/794283/
[21:59] <domedagen> ChristianAdamski: You could try installing from their website
[21:59] <Seveas> ChristianAdamski, the 'amd64' packages are actually 32 bit packages. In oneiric you can actually install 32bit packages natively so that hack is no longer needed
[21:59] <almoxarife> ChristianAdamski: be brave, the I386 libs only add about 100meg of libs, its ok
[21:59] <JasonGriffee> what should i do to get it to work
[22:01] <guntbert> karl-augustt: please check, I can see no reason why that would prevent the system to boot
[22:01] <reapingwo> anyone ever see anything like this?
[22:01] <reapingwo> Jan  4 08:16:55 rolandpc avahi-daemon[848]: Received response from host 192.168.1.1 with invalid source port 32768 on interface 'wlan1.0'
[22:03] <skagedal_> almoxarife: not sure what you mean? anyway, here's a screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/bigyellowrectangle.png/
[22:03] <karl-augustt> guntbert: it informs me that my /dev/sda6 file system contents some errors!
[22:04] <Seveas> skagedal_, oh, that's a unity bug I've seen before. Doesn't go away until you restart unity (e.g. by logging out and back in). It's fixed in 12.04
[22:04] <Seveas> unity in 11.10 is still a bit too crashy and buggy
[22:04] <reapingwo> I seem to remember fixing it by switching desktops... or something like that?
[22:04] <Seveas> on 12.04 alpha it works better (though 12.04 alpha is not declared stable yet of course)
[22:04] <reapingwo> try dragging a folder to the top and make it maximize
[22:05] <guntbert> karl-augustt: ok, try the recovery system
[22:05] <almoxarife> JasonGriffee: what card do you have?
[22:05] <reapingwo> I fixed it with something like that
[22:05] <skagedal_> Seveas: all right, thanks!
[22:05] <JasonGriffee> ati radeon 9550
[22:05] <skagedal_> reapingwo: yes, I can make it go away by switching workspaces... but it soon appears again
[22:05] <karl-augustt> guntbert, I can not boot my ubuntu, even in generic mode, it told me that /dev/sda6 has not been correctly unmounted, what do you think about?
[22:05] <reapingwo> ohh... I have seen it once but cannot reproduce it
[22:06] <karl-augustt> guntbert, I can not boot my ubuntu, even in recovery mode, it told me that /dev/sda6 has not been correctly unmounted, what do you think about?
[22:06] <isra> ola
[22:06] <isra> hello
[22:06] <isra> ola
[22:06] <skagedal_> Was looking in the IRC guidelines. This is somewhat of an inconsistency: header says "Don't repeat your question every few minutes", text says: "If you don't get answers immediately, please wait a few minutes before asking again." ...
[22:06] <isra> a
[22:06] <isra> a
[22:06] <isra> aa
[22:06] <isra> a
[22:06] <isra> a
[22:06] <isra> a
[22:06] <FloodBot1> isra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <guntbert> karl-augustt: strange, the you will have to use a live CD for repair
[22:07] <almoxarife> JasonGriffee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver <-- look at this first
[22:07] <isra> a
[22:07] <isra> hola
[22:07] <isra> hola
[22:07] <FloodBot1> isra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:07] <karl-augustt> guntbert , how? explain me more, but I inform that i Have an 10.10 iso image
[22:07] <isra> puta
[22:08] <karl-augustt> but I have the proble m on my 11.10
[22:08] <ubahtek> I just made a folder on the root of the drive to share, then just dumped everything in there, thanks everyone
[22:08] <budmang> anyone happen to have a Rage 128 Pro Ultra TR working with ubuntu?
[22:08] <guntbert> karl-augustt: the version is ok, but you need a CD
[22:09] <karl-augustt> guntbert: a live cd 10.10 is it adapted? or necessary a 11.10 live cd ?
[22:10] <guntbert> karl-augustt: no, 10.10 is fine for this
[22:11] <karl-augustt> ok , just tell me i f possible ,w hat I Can do, me ,I have no ideas!!!!!!!!!!
[22:11] <phix> heh
[22:12] <phix> Hey gang! What's new?
[22:13] <guntbert> karl-augustt: best you boot the live CD, and come here again for further questions
[22:13] <hateb> Are ubuntu guys planning to make unity sidebar more customizable in the future ?
[22:13] <guntbert> phix:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:13] <karl-augustt> already for booting, tell what to do in next step,
[22:14] <phix> guntbert: No I am offering my services, are yuo having any Ubuntu issues lately that you want to talk about?
[22:14] <guntbert> hateb: that not a support question, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:14] <Seveas> guntbert, oh c'mon, it's a normal question about ubuntu
[22:14] <guntbert> phix: I'm fine, thx
[22:15] <Seveas> hateb, I don't think they are. The area for customizations is lenses for the launcher
[22:15] <phix> guntbert: ok well if you do let me know :) I am here for you
[22:15] <almoxarife> karl-augustt: use the live-cd irc chat to return here
[22:15] <guntbert> Seveas: how should we answer that?
[22:15] <Seveas> guntbert, I just did :)
[22:16] <guntbert> Seveas: point taken :)
[22:17] <karl-augustt> have to install irc chat on in demo?
[22:17] <karl-augustt> have to install irc chat on in live?
[22:17] <Seveas> karl-augustt, yes, but that's easy. You can also use http://wbchat.freenode.net
[22:18] <karl-augustt> i can do that , few minutes to give to me!
[22:18] <almoxarife> Seveas: to install he needs a harddrive on the machine right?
[22:18] <Marcius81> someone speak portuguese?
[22:18] <Seveas> almoxarife, no, if you install packages on the live cd they are installed onto the ramdisk you're running from
[22:18] <Seveas> !pt | Marcius81
[22:19] <almoxarife> Seveas: didnt know
[22:19] <bullgard6> '~$ ps aux | grep gajim;  /usr/bin/python -OO gajim.py'.  I cannot see Gajim's program window. How can I make visible Gajim's program window? [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1]
[22:20] <juniorsa> Hi, I am using ubuntu 10.04, and am trying to setup a slave dns server using bind9, I removed a zone file to see if it would be re-transferred, and it won't transfer to my slave machine, I get named[8808]: client 69.196.22.5#55034: received notify for zone 'rebeiro.ca' but the rebeiro.ca.db never get's created, any suggestions?
[22:21] <almoxarife> juniorsa: #bind9
[22:21] <juniorsa> almoxarife: no one is in #bind9 but I already asked in #bind no one answered, I'm stuck sorry
[22:21] <suppl> Hello, could anyone help me with troubleshooting acpi please?
[22:22] <almoxarife> juniorsa: did you forget #linux? or they as useless as ever?
[22:22] <Seveas> juniorsa, could you pastebin the slave's named.conf and included files (specifically the zone entry for that zone)?
[22:22] <bullgard6> suppl: ACPI is a very voluminous matter. You better state your specific problem.
[22:22] <bodnast> uh
[22:23] <juniorsa> almoxarife: I figured since I was running ubuntu this would be the best place to ry
[22:24] <Seveas> juniorsa, not a bad idea, as there sometimes are people here who know a thing or two about bind :)
[22:24] <juniorsa> Seveas: just hopeful :)
[22:24] <suppl> Well, i've got 2 gpus on my laptop. I used to boot with i915.modeset=0. Most of the things were unrecognized, like video and display (couldnt go more then 800x600).
[22:24] <suppl> bullgard6
[22:24] <Seveas> juniorsa, so please provide the info I asked for (hint: I know a thing or two about bind)
[22:25] <almoxarife> juniorsa: its not a bad idea, its the only place you can get an answer to any ill associated with linux, as long as you say 'i am on ubuntu' , thats what i do
[22:25] <bullgard6> suppl:
[22:25] <suppl> I just tried with acpi=off, video works awesome but the temperature problem is messy.
[22:25] <suppl> ie high
[22:25] <bullgard6> why is this an ACPI problem and no graphics problem?
[22:26] <juniorsa> what's everyone's favorite pastbin?
[22:26] <bullgard6> suppl:  Ah, I see.
[22:27] <Seveas> juniorsa, gist.github.com
[22:27] <Seveas> or paste.pocoo.org
[22:27] <suppl> bullgard6, i was using acpi_call... im just fed up with it all :)
[22:30] <almoxarife> how do i detach channel windows in quassel? i looked, i dont see it
[22:30] <juniorsa> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/794321/ - hope this helps, the named.conf just references other domains that were working before
[22:31] <bullgard6> suppl: You have a rare bug in so far as ACPI and graphics rarely interfere. I would start by analyzing dmesg. If you cannot find a hint in dmesg, you could try to find a hint in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old.
[22:32] <almoxarife> in terminal, how do i detach channel windows in quassel? i looked, i dont see it
[22:33] <Seveas> juniorsa, that's not a correct config for a slave nameserver, it doesn't define any domains
[22:33] <juniorsa> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/794325/ is the entry in my named.secondary
[22:34] <Seveas> ah :)
[22:34] <juniorsa> I just put 1 domain which is the one I am troubleshooting, it is long
[22:34] <suppl> bullgard6, thank you. i'll try to dig something up... i think it might be some pci irq thing, but since im using ubuntu for a few months... thanks again.
[22:34] <Seveas> juniorsa, did you restart named after removing the file? If not, bind is simply using it's cached version from memory.
[22:35] <juniorsa> Seveas: yes I did, on the master and slave
[22:35] <Seveas> hmm, that should generally cause it to do an AXFR...
[22:35] <juniorsa> I saw something about apparmor, there is already an entry there for /var/cache/bind my new domains are in /var/cache/bind/dido
[22:35] <juniorsa> Seveas: yes that's what I thought
[22:35] <Seveas> does it mention nothing about that in the logfile?
[22:36] <bullgard6> suppl:  Yes, a PCI IRQ bug could be the culprit.  I once had such a bug. But this reflected in dmesg.
[22:36] <juniorsa> I grepped for AXFR in the /var/log/daemon.log file and nothing
[22:36] <Seveas> oh apparmor... yeah, that'll scew with you. Disable it while you debug bind so it doesn't get in the way. When that works, reenable it and debug apparmor :)
[22:36] <Seveas> (I'm using bind mostly on redhat, so can't help you really with the apparmor bits)
[22:38] <ruleroftheintern> Can anyone direct me to an open browser or cross-platform LAMP IDE?  That is, I have to develop from a remote terminal and have the files but can't ssh into my ubuntu box
[22:38] <suppl> bullgard6, i did find some switching by ironlake card, "sharing irq 5 with 0000:01:00.0" and then, radeon at 0000:01:00.0 shared irq 5
[22:38] <juniorsa> Seveas: I did stop the apparmor and it still doesn't transfer
[22:39] <Seveas> juniorsa, and nothing appears in the log on either end about attempts to transfer?
[22:39] <Seveas> juniorsa, try incrementing the serialnumber of the zone and rndc reload on the master. That should result in notifications and retransfers. Both should be visible in logs on both ends.
[22:40] <ruleroftheintern> Can someone direct me to a quality PHP/CSS/Javascript/Mysql IDE?
[22:41] <Seveas> ruleroftheintern, vim :)
[22:41] <ruleroftheintern> Seveas, i really don't want to learn vim :)
[22:41] <chuck1> ruleroftheintern: w3school
[22:41] <robbbie> ruleroftheintern: vimtutor
[22:41] <Seveas> ruleroftheintern, bluefish then
[22:41] <robbbie> ruleroftheintern: run through vimtutor in your console and an hour later you will be a vim master
[22:42] <juniorsa> Seveas: no I incremented the serial and restarted bind on both sides and still nothing happened
[22:42] <stepnjump> Hi, yesterday I was working on some files. I can't find them today. I forget their names even! What is this GUI app there that shows on a timeline all the files one had been working on please?
[22:42] <ruleroftheintern> Seveas, will that allow me to run mysql queries?
[22:42] <Seveas> don't restart, do rndc reload and track the notifications
[22:42] <ruleroftheintern> robbbie, thanks for the heads up
[22:42] <Seveas> ruleroftheintern, no. IDE's aren't query browsers or mysql shells...
[22:42] <juniorsa> Seveas: on master
[22:42] <chuck1> vim is simply a text editor, I don't see the rapport with the php/html/css
[22:42] <bullgard6> suppl:  I do not know if this is a strong hint to a bug. In my case there was a repeated try to establish a sharing of the same IRQ so that an intermittent soperating state arose.
[22:43] <robbbie> chuck1: vim is a *programmers* text editor
[22:43] <ruleroftheintern> Seveas, so i'll have to do everything via php like normal, then
[22:43] <bullgard6> -s
[22:43] <suppl> bullgard6, can i post that bit for you, on pastebin or something?
[22:43] <chuck1> robbbie: there are ide to that, stop making the geek of 80's
[22:43] <reapingwo> which additional drivers should I use for 3d acceleration?  I have two options (version current) [Recommended] OR (post-release updates) (version current-updates)
[22:44] <bullgard6> suppl:  Yes. Go ahead.
[22:44] <suppl> Ok, give me a second.
[22:44] <somsip> ruleroftheintern: maybe worth looking at Netbeans if you're okay with large-footprint software
[22:44] <solars> hey, is there something that allows me pushing content to my tv via dlna much like my phone does? I only know mediatomb which is only a server..
[22:46] <juniorsa> seveas: is there anyway to turn up logging to find out why AXFR is not even being attempted?
[22:46] <ruleroftheintern> somsip, will do.  Just looking for a better environment than a text editor , cheers all
[22:48] <shukty> hi I m trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 using A live cd but it can't see windows7 partition it says that all my hd /dev/sda0 is unallocated any idea ?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> shukty: That usually means that you have an invalid partition table. Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[22:50] <ai9371> hello
[22:50] <ai9371> i need to set up my computer
[22:50] <ai9371> i mean i need to set up wrtgl with speed booster
[22:50] <ai9371> wireless g
[22:51] <ai9371> on desktop
[22:51] <ai9371> I guess I have to use ndiswrapper ?
[22:52]  * mygirlllllll my last video http://adf.ly/4XCtS
[22:53] <Slagwag> is it normal for a long delay to import a gpg key
[22:54] <shukty> jordan: /dev/sda contains GPT signatures, and  ... error unable to open
[22:54] <reapingwo> host migration?
[22:54] <reapingwo> netsplit?
[22:54] <Cirehpsa> wut
[22:54] <ai9371> hello
[22:55] <Jordan_U> shukty: That first error is the one causing problems. fixparts is a utility which can fix this.
[22:55] <ai9371> how do i set up the Linksys WMP54GS on ubuntu?
[22:55] <Jordan_U> shukty: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/
[22:55] <philtann> 81
[22:56] <Seveas> 82
[22:58] <ai9371> you would think that ubuntu would recognize the most common card ther is
[22:58] <ai9371> linksys
[22:59] <ai9371> camon now
[22:59] <ai9371> ok what should i do since my wireless card is not detected>
[22:59] <ai9371> do I have to use ndiswrapper?
[23:00] <steve84> hi im running ubuntu 11.10 on my lg r380 laptop and for some reason my mouse stopped working today is there a way to fix this?
[23:00] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello. Installing Ubuntu server, is there a way to manually set the IP settings *during installation* without having to install in expert mode?
[23:00] <aeon-ltd> steve84: tried restarting? basic stuff etc
[23:01] <steve84> aeon-ltd: i resarted but the problem came back again
[23:01] <ai9371> Rigormortis why dont you just freking set them after
[23:01] <ai9371> I mean changing i[ is pretty freking generic
[23:01] <aeon-ltd> steve84: what changed?
[23:02] <y-chrmsm-adam> hei
[23:02] <y-chrmsm-adam> I don't get it
[23:02] <steve84> aeon-ltd: the mouse still doesnt work after i restart
[23:02] <aeon-ltd> steve84: did you install/remove anything?
[23:02] <y-chrmsm-adam> when I boot LiveUSB the thing is mounted read only, so where does install packages?
[23:03] <steve84> aeon-ltd: i did an update via synaptic
[23:03] <y-chrmsm-adam> is there a way to make a persistence LiveUSB?
[23:03] <Safe_> Grub seems to be failing me (having multiple disks with multiple partitions on each), how can I troubleshoot it?
[23:03] <AciD__> hey
[23:03] <Safe_> It just sits there blinking forever.
[23:03] <humamiaz> i need help with my tplink usb adapter..anybody???
[23:03] <_platypus_> steve84 I go through that when I unplug my mouse while using that evil Microsoft stuff. If I unplug my mouse, I can't get it to work again under Ubuntu.
[23:03] <y-chrmsm-adam> anyone knows about this?
[23:04] <steve84> _platypus_: my problem is with the built in mouse not a usb mouse
[23:04] <Rigorm0rtis> ai9371, because eucalyptus installed as part of ubuntu enterprise cloud statically records the DHCP IP address it gets during installation and when I have to change it afterwords I had to deregister and then re-register my clusters and nodes and it's annoying. I'd like to avoid expert mode because it makes writing the documentation a pain in the ass.
[23:04] <y-chrmsm-adam> how to make a LiveUSB that's designed for flash storage as opposed to CD?
[23:05] <_platypus_> steve84 you mean a touchpad mouse?
[23:05] <steve84> _platypus_: yea
[23:05] <AciD__> I'm on 11.10 and I downloaded the last kernel on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2-precise/. When trying to use Virtualbox, dkms keeps telling me it can't build the module against this version. Is there a way to do use virtualbox with any kernel from that ppa ?
[23:05] <Safe_> y-chrmsm-adam: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[23:05] <Safe_> y-chrmsm-adam: It's right there with a handy little guide.
[23:05] <y-chrmsm-adam> this shyat on USB flash is highly retarded, pissing me off already --> /dev/loop0 on /rofs type squashfs (ro,noatime) /dev/sdc on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro,noatime)
[23:05] <pangolin> !language | y-chrmsm-adam
[23:06] <y-chrmsm-adam> I am human, not a silly bot, hence I express my frustrations.
[23:06] <_platypus_> steve84 Mine has to do with what I'm using while in the MS OS. If I disable my mouse (either of them), they literally will not work or be recognized by Ubuntu at all.
[23:07] <pangolin> y-chrmsm-adam: We are all humans and we all follow the !guidelines
[23:07] <pangolin> !guidelines
[23:07] <y-chrmsm-adam> humans get frustrated once in a blue moon
[23:08] <pangolin> y-chrmsm-adam: ok, there is no blue moon predicted for the next 1000 years.
[23:08] <y-chrmsm-adam> pangolin: did you refer to this?? --> Burn your CD or create a bootable USB stick
[23:08] <Cirehpsa> Don't mean to be a boher but I'm trying to get ubuntu to support 32bit executables and google told me to "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" but that didn't work and other results are just beating around the bush... :XXXXXXXX
[23:09] <owenll> y-chrmsm-adam: UNetBootin is pretty straightforward to create persistent usb installation
[23:09] <Safe_> y-chrmsm-adam: I guess you mean me, and yes, is that not what you want?
[23:10] <y-chrmsm-adam> Safe_: to create this structure for a LiveUSB /dev/loop0 on /rofs type squashfs (ro,noatime) /dev/sdc on /cdrom type iso9660 (ro,noatime) is patently retarded, don't u agree??
[23:10] <almoxarife> Cirehpsa: trying to install what?
[23:11] <Cirehpsa> 32bit dependancies?
[23:11] <Cirehpsa> not exactly sure
[23:11] <Safe_> y-chrmsm-adam: To be fair, I just followed the guide and it worked perfectly for me, using this as we speak on a computer without even a hard-drive.
[23:11] <almoxarife> Cirehpsa: you are trying to install what that needs those dependencies?
[23:11] <y-chrmsm-adam> great, so now I need to go out, get yet ANOTHER usb flash to create a sane LiveUSB from a flawed LiveUSB??  <-- 1rst World Problemo
[23:11] <Cirehpsa> oh some game engine
[23:12] <Safe_> y-chrmsm-adam: Why not use the same flash drive?
[23:12] <y-chrmsm-adam> Safe_: so what does mount show to you??
[23:12] <Cirehpsa> almoxarife "it looks like your main problem is that you don't have support for 32-bit executables. If you install that, it should work."
[23:12] <y-chrmsm-adam> my flash drive is 8GB, 700MB for the retarded odd ISO LiveUSB format and 7.3GB wasted.
[23:12] <almoxarife> Cirehpsa: got you, some engine
[23:13] <Cirehpsa> :P
[23:13] <y-chrmsm-adam> I need a solution
[23:13] <Cirehpsa> re'npy
[23:13] <Cirehpsa> ren'py
[23:13] <almoxarife> Cirehpsa: that was a response to what post?
[23:13] <Cirehpsa> that's the engine
[23:14] <y-chrmsm-adam> hey I need a soluiton
[23:14] <almoxarife> Cirehpsa: alrighty, then lets stick to that response, you need 32 bit support for those ............. blah.... blah
[23:15] <Cirehpsa> yeah
[23:16] <redrocket> using sudo update-alternatives --config python .  choose 2.6, system accepts it, go to terminal type 'python'  displays 2.7. what gives?
[23:17] <ramon> What I'd like to know is if there's a way to bring back the classic Ubuntu UI to to 11.10.
[23:17] <Cirehpsa> almoxarife: I tried this http://www.markusbe.com/2009/09/about-running-32-bit-programs-on-64-bit-ubuntu-and-shared-libraries/ but the very first line gave me nothing
[23:17] <Jordan_U> !notunity | ramon
[23:18] <ramon> Thanks.
[23:18] <reapingwo> why does the ubuntu software center sometimes offer outdated versions of programs?
[23:19] <MonkeyDust> reapingwo  sudo apt-get update helps
[23:20] <Jordan_U> reapingwo: What is the output of "which python"?
[23:20] <reapingwo> in particular, playonlinux.  ubuntu software center only has 3.8.  current is 4.0.14
[23:20] <Jordan_U> reapingwo: Sorry, that was meant for redrocket
[23:20] <reapingwo> jordan, np, I figured :)
[23:20] <redrocket> I'm sorry what do you mean?
[23:21] <humamiaz> mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 6  any help?
[23:21] <redrocket> like when I type python in terminal?
[23:21] <redrocket> ahh nvm sorry  :)
[23:21] <redrocket> /usr/local/bin/python
[23:22] <Jordan_U> redrocket: That's your own compiled version.
[23:23] <redrocket> so I need to symlink python to?
[23:23] <redrocket> or is that wrong?
[23:23] <teemo> hi, im trying to create a bootable windows 7 usb on ubuntu, i have the iso file, but i can use unetbootin, since it no longer supprts ntfs formatted usbs, and i cant run an older version of it which did 494, my question is, how else on ubuntu can i create a bootable usb from an iso?
[23:24] <Oer> teemo, to create a win7 usb, use the tools on the ms website.
[23:24] <teemo> im running ubuntu 11.10
[23:24] <kfizz> I'm setting up a box to be a MySQL server and NAS for my office and I'm trying to decide between Ubuntu and Windows as the OS. Most of the clients accessing the NAS will be Windows comps. Would it be faster to use a Windows OS with the NTFS as opposed to a Linux box with ext4 and samba?
[23:25] <teemo> i meant ubuntu tools, since i dont have windows system on hand
[23:26] <kaddi>  i have a problem with my narwhale.. when I plug in the headphones the speakers don't get turned off... The sound is transmitted through my normal speakers and the headphone at the same time. I need to go to alsamixer and turn off the sound for the speakers manually
[23:26] <kaddi> every time I use the sound control, the speakers get turned up to full sound again
[23:26] <Jordan_U> redrocket: The problem is that update-alternatives changes the link in /usr/bin/python, but /usr/local/bin/ is before /usr/bin/ in your $PATH. I'm not sure what the best way to solve this problem is in your case, but it might make things clearer if you explained why you want a specific version of python for when running "python", and why you have your own compiled version of python at all.
[23:27] <Jordan_U> teemo: Even though you're using Ubuntu to make the USB, this is really a question for ##windows.
[23:27] <redrocket> bbasically I borked up installing 2.7 which is what I need to use for a specific program. I didn't do an altinstall of it.  so everything works basically..
[23:28] <redrocket> but I need to 2.6 as I dont want to install all of the modules again for 2.7
[23:28] <Jordan_U> redrocket: What program?
[23:29] <redrocket> can I pm you jordan?
[23:29] <root_> hello my name is core im from brasil I love linux
[23:29] <Jordan_U> redrocket: I would prefer to keep the conversation in-channel, but if you can't follow because of the busyness of #ubuntu you may pm me.
[23:30] <root_> kernel 3.0
[23:30] <root_> show
[23:30] <budmang> anyone in that can help with a dual monitor setup? I just goy my OLD PCI rage card working.. ubuntu sees the 2nd card(intel onboard)... but I just cant seem to get it to work..
[23:30] <budmang>  http://pastebin.com/hWFKnpMX xorg.conf     and   varlog http://pastebin.com/zL1s2JZx
[23:30] <redrocket> thats okay.  I'm using a ga-bot that was coded in 2.7. However, I have pyopencl and a bunch of other stuff installed in 2.6.
[23:31] <redrocket> when I try to install modules in 2.7 it gives me errors,
[23:31] <redrocket> so I tried to link back to 2.6 where all the modules are installed and it gives me errors
[23:31] <redrocket> I'm in over my head a bit here  .:)
[23:32] <redrocket> the erros saying modules dont exist, but it's looking in 2.7 for them
[23:32] <redrocket> tried to shebang the file, not working, even though 2.6 is installed and the modules are there
[23:32] <stepnjump> I had a file yesterday on my both computers (synchronized with ubuntu one) and today I found out that the file is deleted on both computers. My question is twofold. 1- Is Ubuntu one safe to use? 2- How can I look at the audit trail to find out up until when the file was in my computer. Any app like that on ubuntu either at the terminal or in X. Thanks for your help in this.
[23:34] <redrocket> jordan, as an example,  importing pyopencl as cl errors out saying module doesn't exist
[23:35] <Oer> stepnjump, check ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log
[23:35] <stepnjump> thanks a lot Oer
[23:35] <Cirehpsa> how do I go about installing multilib in ubuntu?
[23:36] <ibodi> is it possible to have 11.10 left top-to-bottom menu bar dash always on? or new windows opened default left position not hide the bar
[23:36] <Cirehpsa> actually wait
[23:36] <ibodi> actually i feel better about the design of unity nowadays.
[23:37] <Jordan_U> redrocket: Can you link to this ga-bot? What does it do? There might be alternatives which would not cause these issues, and it sounds like the ideal thing for you to do is remove your compiled version of python, along with any other work-arounds you've tried, and go back to Ubuntu provided packages.
[23:38] <redrocket> Jordan_U that's kind of what I was thinking as for the compiled packages. ty for your help. I'm going to work on that a bit.
[23:38] <Jordan_U> redrocket: You're welcome.
[23:38] <Oer> ibodi you can set it in my-unity > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/myunity-is-a-small-simple-unity-tweaking-tool/
[23:39] <stepnjump> Oer, what is this X app there that comes with ubuntu that allows you to see all the .odt or text files or whatever that a user has worked on in the past week. I forget what it was called.... any idea?
[23:39] <Safe_> I know this is a bit messy, but grub is giving me a hard time, hence the mess. But it wont boot at all, just sits at root blinking.
[23:39] <Safe_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/794381/
[23:39] <Safe_> agh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/794381/ - bootinfo
[23:39] <Oer> stepnjump, zeitgeist ?
[23:40] <stepnjump> that's it! thanks oer
[23:40] <Oer> yw
[23:40] <urgodfather> can someone please help me figure out why my wireless keyboard/mouse combo isnt working properly?
[23:40] <urgodfather> omg zeitgeist was awesome
[23:41] <ibodi> oer thanks reading ...
[23:41] <Safe_> Somehow I think grub messes up the /sd# and it chooses the wrong one and just sits there instead.
[23:41] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Do you get this blinking cursor at boot even when the Pen Drive is not plugged in?
[23:42] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Yes.
[23:42] <teemo> Jordan_U: How would windows users, have knowledge of ubuntu tools/methods? Even thought I am trying to create a windows bootable usb, im trying to do it  on ubuntu. So if i were trying to create a bootable mac usb, would it be a question for #mac?
[23:44] <ibodi> what does this page indicates: https://friendly.ubuntu.com/11.10/Acer/Aspire%205750G/I:D7z5Cp:E4:I8g:Ui:BEfp:vc:BHe:Uj:BEfp:k:B5G:Ovk:BF7/devices/
[23:44] <ramon> Teemo, have you asked at the #Windows yet?
[23:44] <Oer> teemo, windows7 needs its own creator
[23:44] <Jordan_U> teemo: This is irc.freenode.net, most of the users (including those in ##windows) are familiar with GNU/Linux. Ubuntu has no tools specifically for creating bootable Windows USBs, nor does it have any tools for creating bootable OSX USBs. Therefore anything you do is going to require a lot of manual work involving much more knowlage of Windows (or OSX) than of GNU/Linux.
[23:45] <d1g1ta1> why isn't my static ip working when I set ifconfig 10.0.0.4 netmask 255.0.0.0 up and route add default gw 10.0.0.1?
[23:45] <ibodi> will 24Jan 11.10.4 build works for acer aspire 5750g ? i currently can not install 11.10 into my acer
[23:45] <d1g1ta1> I can ping ip addresses on the internet but dns isn't working
[23:45] <urgodfather> would anyone be willing to help me figure out why my wireless keyboard/mouse combo isnt working properly?
[23:45] <robbbie> urgodfather: interference ?
[23:46] <d1g1ta1> urgodfather:  batteries?
[23:46] <spacebug-> d1g1ta1: you need to set dns server in /etc/resolv.conf
[23:46] <kaddi> anyone can help me with a sound issue for my headphones?
[23:46] <urgodfather> negative
[23:46] <urgodfather> mouse works if less than 1 ft from ir device keyboard is useless
[23:47] <urgodfather> tested in winblows, works fine
[23:47] <freko28> hi all
[23:47] <Monroe> HI!
[23:48] <stepnjump> Oer, I might look like a total idiot but ... How can I invoke zeitgeist.. I know I have it on my system but can't figure out on how to invoke it
[23:49] <stepnjump> Never mind.. found it... sorry
[23:49] <Oer> stepnjump, all you have to do is open 10 webpages, 10 documents and 10 photo's, and you should see this in history
[23:50] <urgodfather> can i just d/l the win drivers and wrap in ndiswrapper? or, is that just for nics?
[23:50] <d1g1ta1> spacebug-: thanks.  what if I wanted to do this in /etc/sysconfig/network/config ?
[23:51] <ramon> ndiswrapper is for network (ethernet)
[23:51] <freko28> I've installed openVPN on my ubuntu server and I actualy use it on my personal computer (ubuntu 10.04) with openVPN client. Can I lauch 2 firefox session in the same time on the client, one with eth0 and the second with tun0?
[23:51] <spacebug-> d1g1ta1: don't know. I have not such file/dir
[23:52] <Oer> urgodfather, did you try an other port for the usb-transmitter? or try reconnect with the button(s) on the keyboard + transmitter
[23:53] <urgodfather> Oer, yep
[23:53] <stepnjump> I am swamped with thigs to do and my computers are acting weird today.. I keep loosing my external mouse on my netbook! weird
[23:53] <d1g1ta1> spacebug-: can I just copy the ifcfg.lo to ifcgf.eth0 ?
[23:54] <stepnjump> oer, this is weird, I can see the activity journal on my desktop in accessories but cannot find this on my netbook, yet when I try to install zeitgeist on my notebook, it says it's already installed!
[23:54] <Safe_> What is the difference between placing Grub into 'sdc' and 'sdc7'?
[23:55] <stepnjump> Can anyone tell me if ubuntu one is safe for files or will it loose files every so often!?
[23:55] <ramon> Safe: sdc is the Hard drive, sdc7 is a partition in your hard drive.
[23:55] <urgodfather> ramon, thanks... is there an alternative to it for other win drivers?
[23:56] <d1g1ta1> stepnjump: never, ever, put important files you cannot afford to lose in just one place
[23:56] <ramon> urgodfather: I don't recommend installing win drivers on Ubuntu.  Have you checked the vendor website for Linux drivers?
[23:57] <bs> how to ping ip from ubuntu?
[23:57] <urgodfather> ramon: its a logitech... they don't have any, and you would assume that it would work fine but... negative ghost rider
[23:57] <spacebug-> d1g1ta1: again I have no such files. I'm using NetworkManager to handle my connections
[23:57] <Safe_> ramon: I got that, but grub wont even boot up so I'm wondering which of them I should try to put them in instead of MBR or in everyone
[23:58] <ramon> bs: ping <ipaddress>
[23:58] <stepnjump> d1g1ta1: well I know but how do I know when Ubuntu one decides to loose a file in the ether? How will I know unless I remember EVEN if I have a backup or 100 of them? I need to be able to trust something at one point
[23:59] <Safe_> I think the sd# keep switching on me, at first ubuntu was on sda7 and now it's sdc7