[00:00]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[00:14] <kbroulik> kudos to the packaging guys that KDE 4.8 RC2 was available in the repos on the release day :) thumbs up
[01:08] <Guest44446> ?
[01:25] <graft> yo, how do i axe totem in firefox and replace it with something that works?
[01:38] <graft> never mind, turns out it's gecko mediaplayer i want, kind of. sigh.
[03:40] <viKtor_> hey guys i find oxygen little ugly as the default, but i can't find kde themes as for gnome, any help?
[04:06] <Tech-1> try kde look ?
[05:16] <mr-rich> Ok, Libreoffice's tooltips were black on black, so I changed the settings in kde's settings. this fixed it for LO, but it changed ALL tooltips in ALL apps. Can someone go in to settings and tell me what the default colors for tool tips are?
[05:22] <blake> mr-rich, could you point me to the proper KDE changes to get rid of the black boxes?  Thanks!
[05:23] <mr-rich> blake: I can, but I'm trying to undo that change now ... it needs to be fixed in LO ...
[05:24] <blake> Hmm, OK but maybe there is a kde setting which is a fair compromise.
[05:25] <mr-rich> blake: it is in system settings -> Application Appearence -> Colors -> Colors tab ...
[05:25] <mr-rich> do me a favor ...
[05:25] <mr-rich> before you change anything ...
[05:26] <mr-rich> tell me the color codes for the original settings ...
[05:26] <mr-rich> please
[05:28] <mr-rich> blake: did you find the settings?
[05:29] <blake> just got back to it.   give me a sec.
[05:29] <blake> Ok here goes:
[05:29] <blake> window background:  grey
[05:30] <blake> Window text:  black
[05:30] <blake> Button background: grey
[05:30] <mr-rich> blake: for tool tips ...
[05:30] <blake> Button text: black
[05:30] <mr-rich> down the list ...
[05:30] <blake> Oh thanks (lots to type:
[05:31] <mr-rich> I need the color codes ... a 6 hex digit code ...
[05:31] <blake> tooltip text:  231/253/255
[05:31] <mr-rich> cool ...
[05:31] <mr-rich> and the background?
[05:31] <blake> tooltip background  24/21/19
[05:32] <mr-rich> blake: you get a gold star on your Geek Card ... :)
[05:32] <mr-rich> thank you
[05:33] <blake> ;)
[05:33] <mr-rich> and those are red/green/blue ... correct?
[05:33] <blake> yes
[05:34] <mr-rich> is there anything in hue/sat/value settings?
[05:36] <mr-rich> blake: is there anything in hue/sat/value settings?
[05:36] <blake> HSV is just an alternative way to set colors.  you only need to set one.
[05:37] <mr-rich> k .. got it ...
[06:09] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[07:31] <DerezzedGoat> Hi, does anybody know why when booting from USB, a regular Desktop-iso won't work for my mini9, but the alternate-install does... Knoppix does, but Linux-Mint does not.   I think it has something to do with half mini pciexpress ssd
[07:44] <noaXess> mooorning ;()
[07:44] <noaXess> :)
[07:44] <noaXess> first week of 2012.. so... we can still: HAPPY NEW YEAR kubuntu fans, freaks, gurus, community ;)
[07:45] <noaXess> ad stil a problem in ktimetracker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/794618/
[07:45] <noaXess> any hint?
[07:52] <mohaa> 2009.05.20 [17:22]<mohaa> I have issues with kubuntu 9.04   Mamarok
[07:52] <mohaa> 2009.05.20 [17:22]<Mamarok> mohaa: what issues?
[07:53] <mohaa> hello, world (-:
[07:53] <mohaa> Mamarok_san i'm still having the same issue i had 2 years ago
[07:53] <noaXess> mohaa: what problem?
[07:54] <mohaa> wireless
[07:54] <mohaa> it works on liveCD
[07:54] <mohaa> but once i installed kubuntu, the hardware is listed in networkmanager but is "unvailable"
[07:55] <mohaa> (kubuntu 10.11)
[07:55] <noaXess> why not using 11.10?
[07:55] <noaXess> latest?
[07:55] <mohaa> my bad
[07:55] <noaXess> what about trying installing wicd?
[07:55] <mohaa> (kubuntu 11.10)
[07:55] <noaXess> connect wire, sudo apt-get install wicd and try wlan again
[07:55] <noaXess> i prefer wicd
[07:56] <mohaa> noaXess  installing wicd without network ?
[07:56] <noaXess> mohaa: no lan connection?
[07:56] <mohaa> i use wicd actually on my other machines but here...
[07:57] <mohaa> no lan connection, no
[07:57] <noaXess> grr.. bad
[07:57] <noaXess> hm..
[07:57] <noaXess> mohaa: have you tried configuring network manually?
[07:57] <mohaa> btw what is that "enable wireless" button i can't clik on ?
[07:57] <noaXess> mohaa: what does ifconfig say?
[07:58] <mohaa> ifconfig ups the hardware
[07:58] <mohaa> but it still "unvailable" in NM
[07:58] <mohaa> :-/
[07:58] <noaXess> mohaa: you know iwconfig tools?
[07:59] <mohaa> yes
[07:59] <osinclair> mohaa_: from konsole run "sudo rfkill list"
[07:59] <mohaa> scanning is ok with iwlist
[07:59] <noaXess> have you trie manually connect wifi with iwconfig tools
[07:59] <mohaa> but nothing really shows in NM
[07:59] <mohaa> it's freaky !
[08:00] <osinclair> mohaa_: I get this regularly.. try my tips.
 have you trie manually connect wifi with iwconfig tools     <<<  unlikely. I'd use some other distro for this
[08:00] <noaXess> mohaa: try osinclair command
[08:00] <osinclair> then look for "blocked" and do "sudo rfkill enable 0/1" or whatever is blocked
[08:01] <osinclair> sorry should be "sudo rfkill unblock"
[08:02] <mohaa> thanks i try that
[08:10] <kroonrs> hi - my skype does not seem to be picking up my voice on my netbook's built in mic. my pulseaudio volume meter seems to pick up my voice, and skype is set to use pulseaudio. what app that supports PA can I use to try do a sound recording? [lucid]
[08:13] <lethu> kroonrs, you can unmute your input channel and pay attention if you hear any echoes
[08:13] <kroonrs> lethu: my input channel is not muted
[08:13] <lethu> kroonrs, otherwise applications for recording PA sound are pretty rare
[08:13] <kroonrs> lethu: and no echoes
[08:14] <mohaa> wtf ???????
[08:14] <mohaa> it's blocked/unblocked on whim
[08:14] <mohaa> every damn 5 seconds
[08:14] <lethu> kroonrs, I know an app you can test your mic with tho
[08:14] <kroonrs> lethu: yeah?
[08:14] <lethu> kroonrs, teamspeak
[08:15] <kroonrs> lethu: i expect that will have the same problems as skype?
[08:15] <lethu> kroonrs, nope
[08:15] <kroonrs> lethu: should i install the client or the server?
[08:16] <kroonrs> lethu: presumably the client, but do i need the server as well?
[08:16] <lethu> kroonrs, I was in the same situation as you, and after a long research on the web for a solution, I decided to settle down with a Sip client (qutecom) and forget about skype
[08:16] <lethu> kroonrs, the client
[08:16] <lethu> kroonrs, you don't need the server no
[08:17] <lethu> kroonrs, besides, skype has been bought by Microsoft, so you can expect no further support for the linux version
[08:18] <mohaa> if this crap is "user friendly"  why doesn't wireless work as on the liveCD
[08:18] <mohaa> ??
[08:18] <mohaa> this is a shame
[08:18] <mohaa> hardware is blocked just like that, wtf ??
[08:19] <kroonrs> lethu: ok, it seems as if teamspeak's recording also doesn't pick up the mic
[08:22] <lethu> kroonrs, have you tried checking if your input (mic) is muted under alsamixer?
[08:23] <mohaa> how do i enable wireless from network manager ?
[08:23] <mohaa> the button is there, but i can not click to enable wireless
[08:24] <lethu> mohaa, are you on a desktop pc or laptop?
[08:24] <mohaa> laptop
[08:25] <lethu> mohaa, do you know your wireless adapter's brand?
[08:25] <mohaa> intel3945
[08:25] <mohaa> classic
[08:26] <mohaa> and another usb chip  (works with rtl8187 under linux)
[08:26] <lethu> mohaa, go into the applications menu then system, then additional drivers
[08:27] <lethu> mohaa, and check if there are any wireless drivers installable there
[08:29] <mohaa> lethu the drivers are up
[08:29] <lethu> mohaa, wireless still doesn't work?
[08:30] <mohaa> but the hardware is not configured well :-/
[08:31] <nlsthzn> Silly question, just installed Kubuntu 11.10 and when using Quassel it defaults to using the Message Indicator... but how do I get it not to close but minimize to tray without enabling the system tray and ending up with two different quassel icons?
[08:32] <mohaa> http://imagebin.org/192067  osinclair, your tips did not change the situation
[08:33] <kroonrs> lethu: it's not muted, it's on max, and both mic boosts are on maximum
[08:36] <kroonrs> lethu: the pulseaudio volume meter (recording) behaves kind of strangely - when there's just ambient noise, it regularly spikes, and then decays, spike, decay, etc.  doesn't decay to near zero before spikes, either
[08:38] <lethu> kroonrs, something must not be set correctly, I am out of ideas as to what that should be
[08:38] <lethu> kroonrs, maybe try changing the priority of the sound devices if there are more than one
[08:39] <kroonrs> lethu: just the internal card - have usb earphones - tried plugging them in and the machine just hard-powered-down
[08:39] <lethu> kroonrs, I have an additional HDMI sound device, I had to change the order (make it the last to use) in order to get things to work
[08:40] <lethu> kroonrs, have you checked the logs?
[08:41] <lethu> kroonrs, after the system crash there is usually a part of the log which can give you hints on what's gone wrong
[08:41] <lethu> kroonrs, the logs are usually found in /var/log/
[08:42] <kroonrs> lethu: still trying to boot, but it wasn't a linux thing, since it happened when I plugged them in at the grub menu as well
[08:42] <lethu> also, try the "dmesg" command in console and watch for any line saying something about the audio
[08:42] <lethu> kroonrs, I see, then it's probably a hardware issue
[08:42] <osinclair> mohaa_: then I am lost, that has always helped me. Can you post outcome of "sudo rfkill list"?
[08:43] <lethu> kroonrs, had that happen to me as well with a netbook
[08:43] <kroonrs> lethu: happens to me on my laptop with my external hdd on my one usb port as well
[08:43] <lethu> kroonrs, must be hardware then
[08:44] <lethu> kroonrs, perhaps something wrong with the port or the bios
[08:44] <lethu> kroonrs, you may try updating the bios
[08:44] <kroonrs> lethu: nothing in logs about the crash
[08:45] <mohaa> osinclair i rebooted and the usb chip works works
[08:45] <kroonrs> it's a dual-boot, guess I'll try the mic on windows qk, since the machine's crashed anyhow
[08:45] <lethu> kroonrs, check dmesg's output after boot
[08:45] <osinclair> mohaa_: sounds like good news to me?
[08:47] <mohaa> osinclair it's 1/2 of the times
[08:47] <mohaa> this can be a problem
[08:48] <mohaa> because my gf doesn't have such patience
[08:48] <mohaa> she may crash the laptop XD
[08:52] <rici> hi
[08:52] <rici> somebody has knowledge in dbus?
[08:52] <Peace-> qdbus
[08:52] <Peace-> !somebody
[08:53] <osinclair> mohaa_: why 9.04 and not more recent?
[08:53] <Peace-> 9.04 no more support
[08:54] <osinclair> mohaa_: 9.10 the best I had I think, kids still use it
[08:54] <mohaa> osinclair  9.04  it was the same issue i'm having now on 11.10  ;)
[08:54] <osinclair> OK now I get it
[08:54] <mohaa> yep
[08:54] <mohaa> the paste was from my last log in here
[08:54] <mohaa> in 2009   XD
[08:54] <rici> my problem is the kde-system always stops responding for ~15 sec.
[08:54] <mohaa> different version, same trouble
[08:54] <osinclair> my w/l goes "rfkill" if I use h/w switch and forget to switch back on b/f reboot
[08:55] <rici> after i stop dbus the system is working but i get a few new problems then.
[08:55] <osinclair> drivers, bad h/w, who knows
[08:55] <osinclair> mohaa_: have learnt to live with it but never reboot w w/l off
[08:55] <Peace-> rici: NO WAIT ... kde version , kubuntu version
[08:55] <Peace-> rici: you get a freeze of kde ?
[08:56] <rici> kbuntu 11.10
[08:56] <Peace-> rici: you can enable the text login via CRLT ALT F1 ?
[08:56] <rici> yes, after 15 sec kde is working fine until the next stop.
[08:57] <Peace-> mmm
[08:57] <Peace-> looks like a video issue
[08:57] <Peace-> rici: nvidia?
[08:57] <Torch> if it's related to dbus, it's probalbly plasma is waiting for something to happen and eventually times out
[08:57] <rici> yes
[08:57] <Peace-> rici: ok... driver open or what?
[08:58] <rici> no, the system install the driver from nvidia side.
[08:58] <Peace-> rici: you need to test the open driver
[08:58] <Peace-> rici:  you should use a fresh installation to understand what is doing this mess
[08:59] <Peace-> rici: try disabiling the desktop effect
[08:59] <rici> i used a new created user but doesn't help.
[08:59] <Peace-> alt shift f12
[08:59] <rici> installation is from kubuntu 6.x to 11.10 with all v ersions between.
[08:59] <Peace-> rici: well you should NOT install video ddriver without a repo
[09:00] <Peace-> rici: there is jokey-kde for proprietay driver
[09:00] <rici> ok i try nv driver!
[09:01] <Torch> Peace-: i don't quite understand yet how we know the issue is related to the video driver?
[09:01] <Peace-> Torch: ctrl alt f1 GET the login via text mode
[09:01] <rici> i don't know, if istop dbus the kdesops are disapearing.
[09:01] <rici> but i get a few other errors then.
[09:01] <Torch> Peace-: yes. what does that mean?
[09:02] <Torch> rici: sure. KDE needs dbus to work. if you stop it. everything more or less breaks.
[09:02] <Peace-> Torch: X is freezed , plasma is freezed ? the driver doens't work ?
[09:02] <Torch> Peace-: dbus requests hang.
[09:02] <Peace-> Torch: i don't think so
[09:02] <Torch> Peace-: that pretty much must look like "all has frozen" to a user
[09:02] <Torch> Peace-: so why does it help to stop dbus then?
[09:02] <Peace-> Torch: i have never said to stop dbus
[09:03] <Peace-> ...
[09:03] <Peace-> Torch: are you her to troll or what?
[09:03] <Torch> [09:55:14] <rici> after i stop dbus the system is working but i get a few new problems then.
[09:04] <Peace-> Torch: for me is the proprietary driver... that dont' work with plasma
[09:04] <Peace-> Torch: so...
[09:04] <Peace-> doesn't
[09:04] <Torch> Peace-: the nvidia driver works fine
[09:04] <Peace-> Torch: for you.
[09:04] <rici> ok guys, i get a call and must leave for 2 hours. will be back and report my try's with the nv driver later. THANKS!
[09:04] <szal> Peace-: in that case we would need to know what driver and card exactly we're talking about
[09:05] <Peace-> szal: i prefer to test the standard driver...
[09:05] <rici> ok, show it later.
[09:05] <Peace-> ...
[09:05] <Peace-> i support here since 4 year
[09:05]  * szal doesn't have any problem w/ the current driver and doesn't see either why the driver from nvidia.com should be any different in this respect than that from the repo
[09:05] <Peace-> i have no time to waste to explain my point of view
[09:06] <Torch> Peace-: relax, dude... this is nothing personal.
[09:06] <Peace-> szal: user is the biggest virus for linux
[09:06] <Peace-> and for example
[09:07] <Peace-> http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/06/29/konsole-window-resize-freeze-kde-kubuntu-nvidia/
[09:07] <Torch> Peace-: that's an old topic
[09:07] <Torch> Peace-: used to happen with 11.04
[09:07] <szal> Peace-: that was w/ the 270 driver in Natty
[09:07] <Peace-> because your machine wiorks....
[09:07] <Torch> Peace-: it does.
[09:07] <Peace-> doesnt mean it works everywhere
[09:07] <szal> Peace-: and was fixed w/ the 275 driver
[09:07] <Torch> Peace-: i had that bug, fixed it, moved on.
[09:08] <Peace-> doesnt mean it works everywhere
[09:08] <szal> doesn't mean you're more right than everyone else either
[09:08] <Peace-> ok then everyone came here to say different stuff so the user is confused
[09:08] <Peace-> ...
[09:09] <Peace-> i guess i will leave the channel
[09:09] <Torch> Peace-: that would probably be a serious loss for this channel. please don't do that.
[09:09] <Peace-> none is neccessary
[09:10] <Peace-> everyone is usefull
[09:11] <szal> [10:05:48] <Peace-> i have no time to waste to explain my point of view <- the 5 minutes you've now wasted w/ pointless bickering you could've done that by now
[09:11] <oyster> Hi. Whenever i try to save/open a file, my kubuntu(oneiric, KDE 4.7.3) starts spinning my HDD and dialog prompt is opened in a second or two. Things look like my kubuntu tries to suspend disk wneh it's possible. What could be the problem?
[09:11] <mohaa> thx noaXess osinclair  o/
[09:11] <noaXess> mohaa: you got it?
[09:11] <oyster> HDD is rather new, about a few months old.
[09:11] <Peace-> szal: ok bye guys
[09:11] <osinclair> mohaa_: you on top of it now?
[09:12] <szal> osinclair: power management, I suppose
[09:13] <mohaa> noaXess  i will probably do another gentoo install
[09:13] <mohaa> she'll get used to it eventually
[09:13] <mohaa> i don't really get along with networkManager  and those rfkill surprise parties
[09:14] <osinclair> szal_: not sure about that, my hp reports 2 w/l interface when only 1 exist..
[09:14] <Peace-> mohaa: this is really weird
[09:14] <mohaa> osinclair  it works but not enough. i hate the idea of having to deal with overengineered bugs
[09:14] <osinclair> szal_: worked fine on my Dell(s)
[09:14] <Peace-> mohaa: you can use wicd.-kde if you want
[09:15] <healer> Hi. Whenever i try to save/open a file, my kubuntu(oneiric, KDE 4.7.3) starts spinning my HDD and dialog prompt is opened in a second or two. Things look like my kubuntu tries to suspend disk wneh it's possible. What could be the problem?
[09:15] <osinclair> peace_: wicd does not solve ALL problems..
[09:15] <Peace-> mohaa: for the hdd are you sure you dint' touch the stuff ?
[09:15] <Peace-> mohaa: i mean the configs fiels
[09:15] <Peace-> mohaa: b default there is an opption disabled for the hd ...
[09:15] <mohaa> Peace- i'll give it a try later today. I'm kinda saturated now
[09:15] <mohaa> >_<
[09:15] <szal> osinclair: nick completion fail, I meant to tell that to oyster (healer)
[09:15] <Peace-> osinclair: you can try.
[09:16] <Peace-> osinclair: or trying is forbidden?
[09:16] <osinclair> Peace_: agree, but if it is weird h/w lock then nwmanager will likely not help. Note I like wicd..
[09:16] <mohaa> Peace-   what are highlights for on me ??
[09:17] <healer> szal: sry, changed nick to identify with NickServ. Power management is OK, that happens even in "performance" mode.
[09:17] <Peace-> mohaa: ys
[09:17] <mohaa> ??
[09:17] <mohaa> ys ?
[09:17] <Peace-> yes
[09:17] <Peace-> omg
[09:22] <drox> I have  aproblem with amarok, the 5 minuts continuos crash and i don't do nothing i don't understand
[09:23] <drox> it before function any problem, why now does crash continuos it?
[09:24] <Torch> drox: did you update to 2.5?
[09:24] <Peace-> drox: upgraded?
[09:24] <drox> somebody upgrase to do
[09:25] <Peace-> if you added the ppa  there is not support
[09:25] <Peace-> officially
[09:25] <drox> Peace-: no only ppa mediubuntu
[09:25] <Peace-> drox: run amarok on konsole
[09:26] <drox> !paste
[09:26] <drox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/794670/
[09:27] <azazl> which app can i use for formatting a SD Card under kubuntu 11.10?
[09:27] <Peace-> azazl: partitionmanager
[09:28] <azazl> Peace-: thanks!
[09:29] <drox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/794674/ questo amarok --debug
[09:32] <Peace-> drox: your database is wrong
[09:32] <Peace-> drox: you need to reset amarok
[09:32] <drox> what do i do?
[09:32] <Peace-> you might want to try moving your amarok configs and forcing it to create new ones. i think the data base is stored in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok im just not sure what file exactly , but to be safe you should move that folder and ~/.kde/share/config/amarok (settings folder) it might just correct itself when you restart it.
[09:34] <drox> my english is bad, but i think to understand
[09:35] <azazl> if i execute dolphin i can see the sd card however in kde partition manager doesn't apear it
[09:35] <Peace-> drox: vieni in #ubuntu-it-chat
[09:37] <Peace-> azazl: mm remove the sd
[09:37] <Peace-> azazl: and plug in again
[09:37] <azazl> ok.
[09:38] <azazl> :P
[09:38] <Peace-> on partitioon manager refresh the list
[09:38] <azazl> i did it
[09:39] <Peace-> by pressing f5
[09:39] <azazl> ok.
[09:41] <azazl> Peace-: the issue persists
[09:41] <azazl> i will try with disk utility
[09:42] <Peace-> azazl: mmm i guess you did something of worng on that sd card
[09:42] <Peace-> azazl: you need to fix it via konsole
[09:43] <azazl> Peace-: disk utility can see my sd card on /dev/mmcblk0!
[09:44] <azazl> but i only can format it in FAT fs, i have a question
[09:44] <Peace-> azazl: type this ls /dev/sd THEN PRESS TABB
[09:44] <Peace-> paste the ooutput
[09:45] <azazl> ls: no se puede acceder a /dev/sd: No existe el archivo o el directorio
[09:45] <azazl>  
[09:45] <Peace-> no
[09:45] <Peace-> no
[09:45] <Peace-> then press tab NOT ENTER
[09:46] <azazl> :P
[09:46] <azazl> ok. ls /dev/sda
[09:46] <azazl> this is my hdd
[09:46] <Peace-> the other ?
[09:46] <Peace-> there is not sdb?
[09:46] <azazl> no
[09:46] <azazl> only sda
[09:47] <azazl> but manuel@manuel-Satellite-A200:~$ ls /dev/mmcblk0
[09:47] <azazl> /dev/mmcblk0
[09:47] <Peace-> so you have a panel
[09:47] <Peace-> *toshiba
[09:48] <jtheuer> Hi, any idea what I can do if akonadiconsole shows that "Mail Dispatcher Agent" is "unable to start"? Any way to find more useful logs? Or is it a known issue?
[09:48] <szal> list drives and partitions w/ 'sudo fdisk -l'; if a USB medium is attached, it should also list that
[09:48] <azazl> a panel? sorry i'm spanish panel confuses me
[09:48] <Peace-> toshiba
[09:48] <Peace-> not panel
[09:48] <azazl> yes my laptop is a toshiba
[09:48] <azazl> laptop=notebook
[09:49] <Peace-> azazl: do as has said szal
[09:49] <azazl> returns of fdisk -l:
[09:50] <azazl> Dispositivo Inicio    Comienzo      Fin      Bloques  Id  Sistema
[09:50] <azazl> /dev/mmcblk0p1            8192     7741439     3866624    b  W95 FAT32
[09:50] <azazl> that is the sd that i want format in fat32 file system
[09:50] <Peace-> ok now you have the location of your sd card
[09:51] <azazl> correct
[09:51] <azazl> that's correct!
[09:51] <azazl> sorry i traduce to english in literal mode from spanish
[09:52] <b0nec0llect0r> hello
[09:52] <azazl> if i've located my sd device how i can format it in fat32?
[09:52] <Peace-> azazl: sudo  mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1
[09:53] <b0nec0llect0r> is there an alternative for mplayer-plugin or mozilla-mplayer on amd64?
[09:53] <azazl> unable to open mmcblk0pl!
[09:53] <azazl> do i need to mount it first?
[09:55] <Peace-> mm
[09:55] <azazl> well, i mounted it but doesn't format the sd. (how dummie i am!)
[09:56] <jester-> hi
[09:56] <Peace-> azazl: i don't remember well this suff and i have some issue here ... btw try removing  1 i mean  sudo  mkfs.vfat /dev/mmcblk0p
[09:57] <Peace-> azazl: unmount first
[09:57] <azazl> Dispositivo Inicio    Comienzo      ok
[09:57] <azazl> ok
[09:58] <Peace-> azazl: worked?
[09:58] <azazl> sorry sorry
[09:58] <azazl> there is an another device called:
[09:58] <Peace-> ...
[09:58] <Peace-> azazl: there is a spanish channel btw
[09:58] <Peace-> !spanish
[09:58] <azazl> there is nobody there
[09:59] <Peace-> ah...
[09:59] <Peace-> -.-
[09:59] <azazl> only kubot
[10:00] <Peace-> azazl: i am going to cook pasta
[10:01] <azazl> ok. no problem. Buen provecho!!
[10:01] <azazl> thanks for your lost time!
[10:04] <azazl> :)))
[10:04] <azazl> the sd card was written protected!!!
[10:08] <azazl> Peace-: i've the sd card written protected. :P but now it is formatted, thanks
[10:14] <mohaa> update manager blocked at 57% for last 40
[10:25] <Peace-> mohaa: so.... stop it then go in the konsole .... type sudo apt.get dist-upgrade  => it will say error type dpkg stuff
[10:25] <Peace-> mohaa: copy and paste sudo dpkg stuff
[10:26] <mohaa> it does not "quit"   :o
[10:26] <mohaa> evil gui !!!
[10:27] <Peace-> mohaa: ctlr alt esc and click on the gui
[10:30] <mohaa> dpkg ---configure -a
[10:30] <Peace->  with sudo before
[10:30] <mohaa> at the moment, there has been some kernel update
[10:30] <Peace-> do not reboot.
[10:30] <mohaa> Peace-:  i work under "sudo -i"
[10:30] <Peace-> ok
[10:30] <mohaa> for not having to sudo each and everytime
[10:31] <Peace-> yes yes
[10:31] <mohaa> now, it's "generating initramfs"  (?)   let's see  XD
[10:31] <Peace-> the beste way to upgrade is always with sudo apt-get stuff
[10:31] <mohaa> i've never been through such trouble under linux
[10:31] <Peace-> everytime
[10:32] <Peace-> because muoin apper ... just sucks
[10:32] <mohaa> yes, but ubuntu has sooo many freaking gui everywhere
[10:32] <mohaa> that it really not efficient AT ALL
[10:33] <eristikophiles> hm
[10:33] <eristikophiles> i didn't have any issues using the muon updater myself
[10:33] <eristikophiles> but *shrug*
[10:33] <Peace-> crash not searching trouble
[10:33] <eristikophiles> you can always close the gui altogether while updating if your system seems to have issues
[10:33] <mohaa> like that networkmanager stuff, the horror !
[10:33] <Peace-> wtf it's not good
[10:33] <Peace-> eristikophiles: i do via terminalthat is good
[10:34] <Peace-> works for sure and if you have trouble doens't freeze
[10:34] <eristikophiles> yeah, if you want to, it's probably stabler
[10:34] <eristikophiles> i've updated my system while running all my usual programs.. it didn't have issues :)
[10:34] <Peace-> mohaa: networkmanager here works fine ...
[10:34] <Peace-> mohaa: there is always wicd-kde
[10:34] <Peace-> and there is some fix btw for network manager
[10:34] <eristikophiles> yeah i much prefer wicd for wireless at least
[10:34] <Peace-> some config fiels is messed ... basically
[10:37] <mohaa> i now install wicd
[10:37] <mohaa> if network works at reboot
[10:38] <Peace-> wicd-kde
[10:38] <Peace-> is called
[10:40] <mohaa> .
[10:40] <mohaa> holy fucking crap
[10:40] <mohaa> it displays  "unvailable" again
[10:41] <mohaa> and i can't click on "enable wireless"
[10:41] <mohaa> who the f**** created this mess ???
[10:41] <Peace-> mohaa: there is a solution...
[10:41] <mohaa> scanning from konsole shows networks
[10:41] <mohaa> but networkcrapmanager nothing !
[10:42] <mohaa> the solution to quit kubuntu
[10:42] <Peace-> cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[10:42] <Peace-> mohaa: stay calm
[10:42] <Peace-> itp's a stupid bug
[10:42] <mohaa> i am calm
[10:42] <Peace-> mohaa: cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[10:42] <mohaa> it's a bug i'm seeing since 2009
[10:43] <Peace-> oh came on
[10:43] <Peace-> mohaa: cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[10:44] <Peace-> mohaa: if you get managed=false change to true
[10:44] <Peace-> kdesudo kate /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[10:44] <Peace-> and edit and save and restart
[10:44] <Peace-> or login logout
[10:45] <Peace-> i am not sure if it is enough but... reboot
[10:45] <mohaa> it was set to true already
[10:45] <Peace-> ah
[10:45] <mohaa> i reboot with blank file
[10:45] <mohaa> :>
[10:45] <Peace-> mohaa: no
[10:45] <Peace-> mohaa:  sudo mv /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.moved
[10:46] <Peace-> sudo service network-manager stop
[10:46] <Peace-> sudo mv /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.moved
[10:46] <Peace-> sudo service network-manager start
[10:46] <Peace-> remopve the widget and put it again in your panel
[10:47] <mohaa> with blank file, it works just fine
[10:47] <mohaa> believe it or not
[10:47] <Peace-> ok hten..
[10:47] <Peace-> i am going to eat
[10:47] <Peace-> bye
[10:47] <mohaa> now is my chance to get wicd
[11:15] <JeroenDeDauw> My moms laptop, running Kubuntu 11.10, will for some reason not connect to the interwebs anymore. ping 8.8.8.8 gives "network is unreachable". Ethernet cable definitely works though.
[11:36] <user_> hi. it takes too long for the chromium browser to run. sometimes it just doesnt run
[11:38] <Peace-> JeroenDeDauw:
[11:40] <rici> ok i'm back. i try to use the nv driver but there is no more nv driver!
[11:40] <rici> my chipset is: nVidia Corporation G98 [GeForce 9300M GS] (rev a1)
[11:41] <rici> so i search around and found the nouveau driver, so i try to use this but i get no screen.
[11:41] <Peace-> rici: mmm tried with a livecd ?
[11:42] <rici> no.
[11:42] <rici> it was ok in the kbuntu versions 9.x, after the update to 10.x the problem starts.
[11:43] <Peace-> rici: have ou installed fresh? or just upgraded?
[11:43] <rici> i search for a debug tool to see where the dbus system hangs
[11:43] <rici> just upgrade!
[11:43] <Peace-> ok
[11:43] <rici> since 2009
[11:43] <Peace-> have you seen the xlog?
[11:43] <rici> yes
[11:43] <Peace-> paste it
[11:44] <rici> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[11:44] <rici> [   372.571]
[11:44] <rici> X.Org X Server 1.10.4
[11:44] <rici> Release Date: 2011-08-19
[11:44] <FloodBotK1> rici: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:44] <rici> [   372.571] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[11:45] <Peace-> !paset
[11:45] <Peace-> !paste
[11:53] <rici> http://paste.ubuntu.com/794764/
[11:55] <Peace-> rici: ok but this is the log for noveau
[11:55] <rici> what you want? nvidia? is curently running.?
[11:56] <Peace-> rici: so now ... you have the freeze?
[11:56] <rici> any few minutes
[11:57] <rici> this is with nvidia driver
[11:57] <rici> http://paste.ubuntu.com/794775/
[11:59] <Peace-> rici: i have seen a lots of reports for your card
[12:00] <Peace-> rici: it seems a problem with nvidia
[12:00] <Peace-> i mean the freeze
[12:00] <Peace-> rici: when it freezes look at top
[12:00] <rici> but mozilla don't stop when i use it!
[12:00] <Peace-> and see the cpu usage
[12:00] <Peace-> rici: LOL
[12:00] <rici> real!
[12:01] <Peace-> rici: you mean everything is blocked but firefox no?
[12:01] <rici> yes!
[12:01] <Peace-> o wtf
[12:01] <Peace-> this is really kde then
[12:01] <rici> firefox works well, only konqueror, dolphin, gwenview stops fpr 15 secounds<!
[12:02] <Peace-> then they work again?
[12:02] <Peace-> or not
[12:02] <Peace-> you need to kill dbus?
[12:02] <rici> yes! kmail, knode also!
[12:02] <Peace-> wtf
[12:02] <rici> no i stop the dbus and the stopings disapear!
[12:03] <Peace-> rici:  i guess you kde installation is not gone well on your upgrade
[12:03] <Peace-> your
[12:03] <rici> what can i do?
[12:03] <Peace-> 11.10 right?
[12:04] <rici> yes
[12:04] <Peace-> rici: read this .... there is a huge string for 11.10 http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/11/08/reinstall-kde/ it's the last one
[12:04] <rici> some days ago i found the same problem in the net and the answer was it looks like a dbus problem,
[12:05] <rici> so i try to stop it and it works!
[12:05] <rici> but can't find the post yet! :-(
[12:06] <Peace-> rici: i am sure that a fresh installation will fix the situation , i guess the upgrade is gone bad
[12:06] <Peace-> rici: btw try to reinstall kde usign my link
[12:06] <Peace-> rici: then if it doesn't work i suggest toi reinstall kubuntu , that's my opinion you will save time...
[12:06] <Peace-> rici: of course you can try to fix the system without reinstallin but...
[12:07] <Peace-> if you have a home separated...
[12:07] <rici> i'm in thailand at the moment and the line is not sooo good. :-(
[12:07] <Peace-> rici: wait maybe i can do something for you
[12:09] <Peace-> rici:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall dbus dbus-x11 libdbus-1-3 libdbus-glib-1-2 libdbusmenu-glib4 libdbusmenu-gtk3-4 libdbusmenu-gtk4 libdbusmenu-qt2 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libnih-dbus1 libqt4-dbus libsmokeqtdbus4-3 python-dbus python-qt4-dbus qdbus
[12:09] <Peace-> rici: try this
[12:09] <Peace-> but i am not sure it will fix
[12:10] <Peace-> rici: btw i have 12.04 maybe numbers can be different
[12:10] <rici> ok, i try this first and otherwise i try the link!
[12:10] <Peace-> but you at least you have the name of packages
[12:10] <Peace-> rici: btw in these cases i have seen... people fix reinstalling a fresh new kubuntu :(
[12:11] <Peace-> rici: if you could download the cd... or the iso... it will take 20 minutes to install in a good computer
[12:11] <rici> i click you link and konqueror starts and hang for few seconds but i see in terminal a dbus call for nspluginviewer.
[12:11] <Peace-> it's not a nice way to fix something on linux
[12:11] <rici> http://paste.ubuntu.com/794781/
[12:11] <Peace-> but...
[12:11] <Peace-> at least you save time
[12:12] <rici> the problem is the download, i have a fast computer but the line is thirt world! :-(
[12:14] <Peace-> rici: i have no other options on my mind
[12:14] <Peace-> rici: you could ask on
[12:14] <Peace-> #kde
[12:14] <rici> ok thank you! i have already reinstallt the dbus and restart now.
[12:14] <rici> goodbye!
[12:14] <Peace-> rici: but says thing well , firefox works instead ... kde applicatins ffreeze for 15 sec and i kill dbut they works again
[12:15] <rici> i don't kill dbus, i only stop it with the normal way!
[12:16] <rici> but then kmail can't remeber passwords and so more.... :-(
[12:16] <white-eagle|afk> hey together
[12:16] <rici> ok, i restart now.
[12:19] <dav_> hi
[12:20] <dav_> apps disappear when minimized. Can you help me, please?
[12:20] <Peace-> dav_: maximize it xD
[12:20] <jtheuer> what should they do instead ;-)
[12:21] <dav_> i can max them just with alt-tab
[12:21] <dav_> i need them on panel...
[12:21] <Peace-> right click on the desktop
[12:21] <jtheuer> add the window list to your panel
[12:22] <Peace-> dav_:  right click on the desktop  => add panel => default panel
[12:23] <dav_> ok with windows list but i want classic tab on panel...
[12:23] <Peace-> i can't understand you
[12:25] <dav_> peace, when i do minimize app, it disappears.
[12:25] <dav_>  i wanna see apps on panel not in windows list or other
[12:26] <dav_> with default panel... nothing
[12:27] <Peace-> dav_: this is the default panel and i get the apps minimized down on the task manager http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/06/plasma-desktophk1577.png
[12:28] <dav_> worked until yesterday, i don't know whats happened
[12:29] <dav_> Can I restore system tray?
[12:29] <Peace-> dav_: you need just to delete the panel
[12:29] <Peace-> dav_: and add again the panel
[12:32] <dav_> peace, thank you very much. I have deleted the panel and added new one gain, now it works. thanks again
[13:24] <soee> is it possible to adjust speed of switching items in krunner list when using keyboeard arrows ?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:05] <chiiiiiz_> hello
[14:06] <chiiiiiz_> I q; noz on q live session trying to install on a Dell XPS in dual boot
[14:06] <chiiiiiz_> I am now on a live session trying to install on a Dell XPS in dual boot
[14:06] <soee> BluesKaj,
[14:06] <BluesKaj> hi
[14:07] <chiiiiiz_> sorry, bad keyboard setting
[14:07] <soee> hi my question i posted earlier: soee> is it possible to adjust speed of switching items in krunner list when using keyboeard arrows ?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> soee:  no idea
[14:08] <chiiiiiz_> but it does not want to install, the install process aborts when choosing my partition / and /home
[14:09] <BluesKaj> chiiiiiz_:  did you format the partitions?
[14:09] <chiiiiiz_> not before... I wanted to ask the program to do it
[14:10] <chiiiiiz_> partition made by windows
[14:10] <chiiiiiz_> shall I format them before?
[14:10] <Torch> chiiiiiz_: what does "it does not want to install" mean? what's the error message?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> yes, so when you chose to format/finish making the partitions , it aborts , chiiiiiz_?
[14:11] <chiiiiiz_> no error message. simply closes the window and I am back to my desktop
[14:13] <chiiiiiz_> Before it formats. I choose the /, specify the filesystemm ask to format the partition
[14:13] <BluesKaj> when formatting you must choose an ext file system, like ext4
[14:14] <chiiiiiz_> then  same for /home... and at that moment it fails. But it is before it does the formatting,,,
[14:15] <chiiiiiz_> at that point, I have only told him what to do
[14:15] <chiiiiiz_> it fails before it asks me to confirm the changes I requested
[14:16] <chiiiiiz_> is there a log when installing?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> that's a new error that I haven't encountered before
[14:21] <chiiiiiz_> I have formatted the 2 partitions in ext4, I give it another try
[14:23] <chiiiiiz_> it failed again
[14:28] <chiiiiiz_>  Is there a 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[14:29] <chiiiiiz_> it does not appear on the download page of ubuntu france
[14:29] <Tm_T> chiiiiiz_: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[14:30] <chiiiiiz_> ubuntu. since kubuntu does not want to install, I want to see if ubuntu encounters the same issue
[14:30] <Tm_T> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download and choose 64-bit
[14:31] <soee> hmm im tring to open mkv file in vlc but i only get green screen all the time, any idea why ?
[14:34] <almoxarife> soee: what is inside the mkv?
[14:34] <BluesKaj> soee:  got ffmpeg ?
[14:35] <soee> almoxarife, some anime movie
[14:35] <almoxarife> soee: yes, but what codec?
[14:35] <soee> thumbs in dolphin are created good
[14:36] <soee> almoxarife, H264 MPEG-4 AVC ?
[14:36] <almoxarife> soee: look at it this way, mkv is a container, vlc handles that fine, but the codec has to be also supported by vlc
[14:37] <soee> BluesKaj, yeah ffmpeg is here
[14:37] <almoxarife> soee: i would think that would play, is it a link on the web?
[14:37] <soee> ?
[14:39] <almoxarife> soee: i was wanting to see if i could play it, my system is vanilla vlc
[14:42] <almoxarife> soee: then again it could be the super secret sauce anime not for general consumption, good luck
[14:43]  * almoxarife thinks american english gets lots in translation
[14:43] <almoxarife> :)
[14:43] <soee> almoxarife, hah its Guilty Crown - just wnated to see is it worth anything :) one moment upgraing vlc
[14:43] <almoxarife> lost too
[14:45] <administrator> d
[14:45] <JabberwockyA19> when I type "dirname $0" konsole it returns "/bin"  where gnome-terminal returns "."
[14:46] <JabberwockyA19> any idea why there is a difference between these two terminals?
[14:46] <almoxarife> soee: look at xbmc too
[14:47] <soee> what is it ?
[14:52] <almoxarife> JabberwockyA19: i got /bin in both
[14:53] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | soee
[14:53] <mohaa> chiiiiiz_  tu peux utiliser le site principal. tu auras le choix de la version
[14:54] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  xbmc is a good app if you're willing to let it take over all your media :)
[14:55] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: it does make managing everything on a drive much simpler
[14:55] <mohaa> chiiiiiz_: http://ubuntu.univ-nantes.fr/ubuntu-cd/11.10/
[14:56] <BluesKaj> too many menus and submenus for my liking , almoxarife
[14:56] <chiiiiiz_> mohaa: Ben non justement. Sur la page telechargement du ubuntu-fr, il ne proposent pas le 64 bits
[14:56] <mohaa> chiiiiiz_  tu peux utiliser le site principal. tu auras le choix de la version
[14:56] <mohaa> LE SITE PRINCIPAL
[14:56] <mohaa> pas le site français
[14:56] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: too many? tame it!
[14:57] <mohaa> sinon, tu peux prendre sur le mirroir de l'université de nantes
[14:57] <mohaa> chiiiiiz_:
[14:57] <chiiiiiz_> ok...
[14:57] <BluesKaj> gentlemen, anglais seulement , svp!
[14:57] <mohaa> BluesKaj  apologies  ;)
[14:58] <almoxarife> spv
[14:58] <almoxarife> how can i detach chat windows from quassel?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> mohaa,  np , just a friendly reminder
[14:59] <mohaa> noticing the difference between an irish mirror and a japanese one o_O
[14:59] <BluesKaj> ok brb, the fonts here aren't setting
[15:00] <almoxarife> quassel?
[15:02] <mohaa> irc client
[15:03] <almoxarife> yes
[15:22] <soee> almoxarife, BluesKaj with smplayer this file works fine
[15:22] <soee> doesnt work with vlc, dragonplayer, bangarang
[15:25] <BluesKaj> I don't have a problem with mkv files in vlc , soee ..so it's difficult for me to figure what problem might be. Smplayer doesn't work so well here , oddly enough .
[15:25] <Peace-> soee: ffprobe files
[15:26] <soee> brb
[15:30] <Anubis> hi ! how can i get rid of the blueish margin of the selected window?
[15:33] <szal> System Settings -> Workspace Appearance -> Window Decorations -> Configure Decoration... -> Shadows -> uncheck Active Window Glow
[15:35] <Anubis> szal: thank you. i just figured out how
[15:40] <BluesKaj> I'm begining to despise samba ... thank the linux gods for ssh ! :)
[15:40] <JabberwockyA19> almoxarife: thanks for trying on your side. I've found a solution by using the following: dirname "${BASH_SOURCE[0]}"
[15:40] <soee> :)
[15:41] <soee> Peace-, ffprobe ?
[15:42] <soee> ok googled already
[15:44] <soee> Riddell, when can we expect rc2 in 11.10 beta ppa ?
[15:44] <Riddell> soee: it's compiling now in ninjas
[15:44] <soee> Riddell, oh great, thank you
[15:44] <Riddell> which it should have done last night but upstream has been confusing with adding new tars that overlap with existing ones
[16:57] <soee> Riddell, how does the biulding packages process works?
[17:07] <Riddell> soee: we coordinate in #kubuntu-devel and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging, do them locally then in a PPA then in the real archive
[17:08] <soee> Riddell, thank you
[17:10] <MrK> hi
[17:10] <MrK> alguien_
[17:10] <MrK> necesito ayuda!!!!
[17:12] <yoyo> !es
[17:15] <Guest76737> hi
[17:18] <MrK> Thanks
[17:38] <_jam_> I just installed ff9 as prompted, now when I click on links in other applications, I get a reponse that firefox is running but not responding (but it is in fact working just fine)
[17:38] <_jam_> I am running two different firefox processes (with two different profiles)
[17:39] <rts> hi all, i have a question about 1gbit nics + kubuntu -- which are the best to use for the desktop? i have an asus board here with a rtl based nic onboard but it loses frames thus dropping performance to an awkward 10mb/sec and less...
[17:51] <Torch> rts: i usually recommend intel e1000 based NICs
[17:53] <rts> Torch: thanks for the hint -- i will try to get some more info on that card
[17:57]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[18:02] <rts> Torch: intel e1000 sounds good, even support jumbo frames, will give that a try, thanks
[18:10] <trippy> can i ask a question or is nobody here..
[18:10] <Torch> trippy: ask away (never ask to ask on an irc channel ;-))
[18:13] <trippy> cool..
[18:14] <trippy> my monitor flickers every so often.. then goes black.. i can ctrl+alt+f1 and get to a tty but thats about it..
[18:14] <trippy> how do i fix my gui so it doesnt flicker out anymore..
[18:16] <trippy> i have two partitions and the other runs gnome perfectly.. any ideas???
[18:17] <Torch> trippy: graphics card and driver?
[18:17] <trippy> ill see..
[18:19] <trippy> is there something i can type in the terminal to speed my search up..
[18:20] <trippy> nm.. found it
[18:21] <trippy> its just saying generic background device..
[18:21] <trippy> so i guess its not using the right drivers at all...
[18:22] <trippy> torch: Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integr
[18:28] <Torch> trippy: so intel it is, apparently.
[18:29] <Torch> trippy: i am no expert here, but intel's open source (and afaik there are no others) drivers have a reputation of being unstable.
[18:29] <Torch> trippy: but that's just some general hearsay i repeat here ;-)
[18:32] <Torch> trippy: i'm aware of this not being very helpful to you, sorry.
[18:32] <ubuntu> hi there
[18:34] <ubuntu> how to recuse my system which has been lost grub entry after another o installation?
[18:35] <ubuntu> i am on Live CD., i could find my ubuntu file system., how to bring my system back??
[18:36] <BluesKaj> ubuntu,  did you install windows ?
[18:36] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: Nope ::)
[18:36] <ubuntu> ANother Linux
[18:37] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: ping
[18:37] <BluesKaj> so the other linux installed a boot loader
[18:37] <BluesKaj> ?
[18:38] <ubuntu> yeah
[18:38] <ubuntu> itz opensuse
[18:39] <who_me> opensuse is "special" like that :/
[18:39] <ubuntu> how to recuse it? :( i have installed a tons of apps in it
[18:40] <ubuntu> who_me: can't i then?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> ubuntu,  , have you tried to update grub ?
[18:40] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: how to dat? :P
[18:41] <ubuntu> i am not a techie actually
[18:41] <BluesKaj> open a terminal , sudo update-grub
[18:41] <who_me> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:42] <who_me> it applies to other cases of bootloader getting overwritten
[18:42] <BluesKaj> don't have to be a techie to do some simple commands in the terminal
[18:42] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: ok guys
[18:42] <ubuntu> :)
[18:43] <ubuntu> who_me: i couldn't follow that
[18:43] <ubuntu> i have already googled that
[18:44] <BluesKaj> ubuntu,  did you , sudo update-grub ?
[18:45] <who_me> there is also this bit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:45] <ubuntu> sudo update-grub
[18:45] <BluesKaj> you can probly do the equivalent command in suse to include ubuntu in grub menu , have you checked that out ?
[18:45] <ubuntu> *sorry there is an error
[18:46] <ubuntu> usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[18:46] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: No ,Do you think that  will be a best fix
[18:46] <ubuntu> ?
[18:46] <ubuntu> if so let me check it
[18:47] <ubuntu> bye
[18:47] <ubuntu> guys
[18:47] <ubuntu> thanks BluesKaj,who_me
[18:54] <trippy> torch: thats my display driver all i could find.. thank you tho.. what if i sign into my ubuntu and find the correct drivers... than what..
[18:54] <viKtor__> hey guys i found an issue
[18:55] <viKtor__> when i place my cursor next to the right side of the screen, it seems like if the cursor could go ahead, instead, in the left side it doesn't
[18:59] <trippy> torch: if i found the correct driver from my gnome partition how would i go about installing it..
[19:49] <BluesKaj> !attitude
[19:51] <soee> :)
[19:53] <BluesKaj> soee,  visit #kde , you'll see why
[19:54] <soee> BluesKaj, yeah i see there conversation :D
[19:54] <BluesKaj> ridiculous
[20:07] <Peace-> BluesKaj: xD
[20:11] <who_me> that dude surely knows how to troll
[20:12] <BluesKaj> spouting off , i think he's practising for the debating team , arguing about split hairs
[20:13] <who_me> reminds my of my gf when I "forget" about her :))
[20:13] <who_me> argumentative lil' $%^&
[20:15] <BluesKaj> actually the 2 deserve each other :)
[20:18] <who_me> I wonder if /ignore <nut_job> will spare me seeing his nonsense in the channel. Yeah, I've been away from IRC for a long time :)
[20:18] <Peace-> xD
[20:25] <keithzg> This is so strange, GIMP only visually updates to what I've done for most things (like adding text boxes, etc) upon saving. If I change the size of a font? Gotta save the file to see the changes, wtf?
[20:25] <Peace-> keithzg: #gimp ?
[20:33] <keithzg> Only happens in KDE.
[20:33] <keithzg> Works fine in Openbox, etc.
[20:34] <Peace-> keithzg: mm i dunno but disabled desktop effect ?
[20:34] <Peace-> maybe it doens't matter but...
[20:34] <keithzg> Tried it, didn't seem to change anything.
[20:35] <keithzg> That's always the first thing I try ;)
[20:35] <keithzg> (I'm running an NVIDIA blog driver TwinView setup...the initial jump to KDE4 was a nightmare, haha)
[20:38] <keithzg> It had finally gotten so that I could use KDE4 exclusively in my day-to-day use, then I upgraded to oneiric, silly me
[20:39] <randomatix> what's a good way to set the PATH for krunner?  the default is missing ~/bin
[20:42] <keithzg> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=82665
[20:43] <keithzg> Seems like it obeys $PATH just fine, so I'd probably say that's the best way (seeing as its the standard way in general)
[20:49] <randomatix> keithzg: Yes, it does seem to respect the PATH it inherits during start-up, which is different than what's in my .bashrc.
[20:50] <randomatix> that PATH is /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games  # not useful
[20:50] <nuse> i can't seem to keep my screen from turning off in kubuntu, i've turnt the screen saver off and set all the power profiles to not sleep or hibernate
[20:50] <nuse> i don't understand why it keeps having, also i have to hit the power button to wake the laptop back up
[20:52] <randomatix> nuse: could it be something in the monitor or machine settings?
[20:52] <nuse> i checked monitor settings, nothing there
[20:52] <randomatix> did you try booting another OS, perhaps a live CD?
[20:53] <nuse> is that directed to me randomatix?
[20:53] <randomatix> nuse: yes
[20:53] <nuse> nope
[20:53] <nuse> why would i? i also have gnome3 on my laptop and it doesn't turn off
[20:54] <nuse> kubuntu was doing that before i put gnome on my laptop though, so its not some gnome settings interfering with my kde desktop
[20:54] <keithzg> And you checked the power profiles?
[20:54] <nuse> yep
[20:55] <nuse> i have dim display setup but Suspend session and screen engery saving turned off on every profile
[20:56] <nuse> and yet it still seems to happen
[20:56] <keithzg> What happens if you disable even dimming?
[20:56] <nuse> its annoying because it disconnects my internet when it does it
[20:56] <nuse> good call, haven't tryed that yet, i was just thinking about that as i typed my earlier statement
[20:57] <nuse> guess we will find about in 10 minutes or so
[21:31] <drox> good night i have this problem, i close window plasma desktop which to do open it
[21:33] <genii-around> drox: Might want to try kstart plasma-desktop
[21:34] <drox> because I do not need to be understood only
[21:35] <drox> interested enough to drag the folder on the desktop and does it all
[22:07] <MaxHR> Hello, any recommendations for best speech recognition to control desktop, browse, and especially for dictation for emails and word processing?
[22:18] <giantpune> hi.  im using kubuntu 11.10.  today it started suddenly crashing and returning me to the login screen.  is there anywhere to look for a log of what could be causing this?
[22:19] <szal> giantpune: for starters, /var/log/kdm.log and /var/log/Xorg.0.log(.old)
[22:22] <giantpune> thanks szal.  i havea couple backtraces in that log. :(
[22:27] <MaxHR> Hello, every time I try to install any packages that don't have the little blue kubunut icon next to them, Muon complains that the following packages aren't verified... is there any way to fix this?
[22:27] <giantpune> and google seems to have thousands of the same backtrace as im getting.  looks like one of those bugs that wont ever get fixed
[22:29] <Torch> giantpune: pastebin what you have so we can have a look
[22:29] <giantpune> this is my log.  http://pastie.org/private/y1cew9coudt15ggo4lpg
[22:30] <giantpune> i put the first line from the backtrace in google and found some bug reports that describe the same issue im getting
[22:36] <MaxHR> Muon often hangs after I ask it to install something, pointer just spins, muon is greyed out, doesn't download... anybody know a fix?
[22:38] <MaxHR> It seems to only happen when I try to install packages that don't have the blue gear icon, and after I say go ahead when it gives the warning, it just sits there
[22:38] <Torch> MaxHR: not a solution... but in my experience, graphical package managers just aren't worth the trouble. they never really work 100% of the time and are often clusmy to use.
[22:38] <Torch> MaxHR: so my suggestion would be to get used to using the command line for package management.
[22:39] <Torch> MaxHR: might seem awkward at first, but it does indeed always work as expected.
[22:41] <Riddell> kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.7.97
[22:42] <MaxHR> Torch: thanks, hopefully it won't come to that, maybe I will try a different gui pm, Muon seems a little young and rough compared to others
[22:43] <giantpune> synaptic works pretty well
[22:43] <BarkingFish> MaxHR: I'd suggest apper to you - i found muon to be a bit on the rought side too, went back to apper, which resembles Kpackagekit, which is what I started on last year
[22:46] <MaxHR> thx for the suggestions... do any of those allow parallel downloading of packages?
[22:46] <szal> aptitude ftw
[22:46] <Torch> apt-get and dpkg ftw ;-)
[22:46] <szal> and I was introduced to gdebi by some howto the other day..  also has a CLI mode that seems to be pretty much what the likes of yum and zypper are
[22:47] <Torch> szal: i never got into yum and zypper and always felt they were poor replacements for apt-get
[22:47] <Torch> szal: but i'm just an old fart, so what do i know ;-)
[22:54] <MaxHR> I will try them all and report back :) ... except the cli ones :p
[23:18] <bento> sou do brasil
[23:47] <szal> !br | Belial
[23:47] <szal> dang, he left
[23:47] <szal> sry Belial
[23:50] <Tech-1> hi szal
[23:55] <aperson> hiya all.  I just got some new hardware (i5, new nvidia card, etc) and when I migrated my kubuntu install it won't boot normally.  I can go to recovery mode and hit resume, and all is fine.  Any ideas?