[00:47] <mustafa> Hello
[00:47] <mustafa> What's the minimum requirement for lubuntu ?
[00:48] <holstein> mustafa: its light... id say try it
[00:49] <holstein> otherwise, you'll probably want puppy
[00:51] <Unit193> mustafa: What do you have?
[00:58] <mustafa> Unit193: it's a friend
[00:58] <mustafa> she has a intel celeron
[00:59] <mustafa> 1.07 GHZ
[00:59] <Unit193> You're installing Linux onto a friend? Might have better convos
[00:59] <mustafa> and 495 mo
[00:59] <mustafa> ram
[00:59] <wxl> NO PUPPY
[01:00] <Unit193> That's better than the one I use it on
[01:00] <mustafa> yes I will install onto my friend
[01:00] <wxl> yeah you'll do find
[01:00] <wxl> hahaha
[01:00] <mustafa> but she said that someone tried before and didn't be successfull
[01:00] <mustafa> and that someone said it's not compatible with linux
[01:01] <wxl> well yeah, usually linux is for computers, not people
[01:01] <wxl> :)
[01:01] <mustafa> but I think this person is noob
[01:01] <mustafa> and there's no reason that her computer is not compatible with linux
[01:02] <Unit193> Some crappy $randomnamebrand aren't as easy
[01:02] <wxl> mustafa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_requirements
[01:03] <wxl> specifically calls out a celeron with a quarter of the ram
[01:03] <wxl> you'll do fine
[01:03] <wxl> put it on her!
[01:03]  * Unit193 500MHz celeron; 512M
[01:05] <wxl> Unit193: ah so you are a bot. an embedded system, no less! ;)
[01:06] <Unit193> That's a full desktop...
[01:06] <wxl> headless server you mean?
[01:13] <mustafa> the iso of lubuntu makes live cd too ?
[01:13] <mustafa> like the iso of ubuntu ?
[01:14] <Unit193> As long as you pickup the desktop one
[01:21] <mustafa> thanks for your helps
[01:21] <mustafa> good night
[09:45] <smile> hi :D
[09:45] <pAt__> Hi (:
[09:46] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha pAt__
[09:46] <smile> MrChrisDruif: hi! :D
[09:51] <MrChrisDruif> pAt__; have got an issue or question?
[09:52] <pAt__> No thanks. I am just hanging around here, loving lubuntu ;)
[09:53] <smile4ever> pAt__: yeah! :D
[09:53] <smile4ever> #lubuntu-offtopic is also nice :)
[09:53] <pAt__> Not to help others ;)
[09:53] <pAt__> But thanks. Didnt know this channel
[09:55] <smile4ever> :)
[10:51] <MrChrisDruif> !alot
[13:23] <ubu> lukasz is here??
[15:59] <AmberJ> I remember using "Ubuntu recovery mode" from GRUB to change passwd for a user account...
[15:59] <AmberJ> I tried it on lubuntu 11.10 but it does not works
[16:06] <AmberJ> wxl, help! ;)
[16:07] <Ahmuck> i think i'm on 10.10.  how do i get to 11.10?
[16:07] <Ahmuck> er, 11.04
[16:07] <AmberJ> Ahmuck, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:08] <Ahmuck> how then do i check for dist
[16:08] <AmberJ> Or, use "Update manager"
[16:08] <AmberJ> I guess it only supports upgrading to 11.04
[16:15] <wxl> Ahmuck: you get 'er fixed?
[16:18] <wxl> Ahmuck: well, try lsb_release -rc
[16:31] <Ahmuck> 10.04
[16:31] <Ahmuck> wxl: nope :(
[16:32] <AmberJ> Ok...got my problem solved
[16:33] <AmberJ>  / was mounted as "read only"
[16:33] <AmberJ> I used "remount" (as read/write) in recovery menu...and then "password user". This did the trick.
[16:35] <wxl> AmberJ: you're doing recovery?
[16:35] <AmberJ> Done already :D
[16:35] <wxl> Ahmuck: if you look at your repos, do you have oneiric repos???
[16:36] <wxl> AmberJ: i struggled with that at first, too. it's not obvious.
[16:36] <wxl> AmberJ: networking's purdy easy tho :D
[16:36] <AmberJ> My mentor needed to change password on his ubuntu install...He forgot it ;)
[16:38] <AmberJ> heh yea...
[16:40] <Ahmuck> k, the upgrade doesn't do this automagically
[16:40] <wxl> Ahmuck: typically it's not an issue. i don't know what the deal is with what you got there.
[16:41] <wxl> Ahmuck: honestly, it usually asks you if you want the next version. that's the default behavior. unless you've changed it. you can always run a software update check, assuming you have it set up to check for new versions.
[16:41] <Ahmuck> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/oneric/partner/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[16:41] <Ahmuck> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[16:42] <wxl> try replacing canonical with ubuntu, Ahmuck, just for grins
[16:42] <Ahmuck> ah, lts only selected
[16:43] <Ahmuck> so it's not looking for upgrade if it's not a LTS release
[16:44] <wxl> THAT will be a problem
[16:45] <wxl> ok, talk amongst yourselves. i gotta get to work :D
[16:45] <Ahmuck> k, that's complete, however no upgrade
[16:45] <Ahmuck> thx wxl
[16:48] <AmberJ> Ahmuck, so, got it resolved?
[16:49] <AmberJ> did you uncheck "lts only"?
[16:49] <AmberJ> And, did you do "sudo apt-get update" after it?
[16:50] <Ahmuck> download the iso
[16:51] <Ahmuck> ing
[16:52] <AmberJ> heh
[16:53] <AmberJ> hey smile
[16:53] <smile> hi AmberJ :)
[16:53] <AmberJ> Care to tell how to record videos using download helper?
[16:54] <smile> I don't know it :( but I think video downloadhelper site has info about it :)
[16:54] <smile> AmberJ: i'm not using it daily, so (the record feature) :)
[16:54] <AmberJ> It has info for a:
[16:54] <AmberJ> 1. Paid
[16:54] <AmberJ> 2. Windows
[16:55] <AmberJ> program...how dare you recommend windows, smile? ;)
[16:56] <smile> AmberJ: i don't :o
[16:56] <smile> AmberJ: Since version 4.9, Video DownloadHelper has introduced an additional video capture method through direct grabbing on the screen. This feature relies on CamStudio when running on the Windows platform and on RecordMyDesktop when on Linux, Video DownloadHelper providing a one-click capture start capability, without the need to manually specify the region of the screen to be captured.
[16:58] <AmberJ> oopsie ;)
[16:59] <AmberJ> I thought you meant this: http://www.downloadhelper.net/applian-replay-media-catcher.php
[16:59] <smile> AmberJ: try to install recordmydesktop :) & find the button in video downloadhelper
[16:59] <AmberJ> Thanks smile :)
[16:59] <smile> AmberJ: be sure to check preferences window of video downloadhelper. There is info about it. :)
[17:05] <smile> you're welcome
[17:21] <Ahmuck> is there a way to add an ISO to the software sources?
[17:28] <Ahmuck> so, do i need to step up?  10.10 then 11.04?
[17:47] <smile> Ahmuck: yeah. But i suggest you take a clean install :)
[18:55] <wxl> back. what did i miss?
[18:55] <venik212> where do I set the preferences for my audio system in Lubuntu?  THe volume control, which in Unity allows access to them, does not do it in Lubuntu
[18:56] <wxl> venik212: alsamixer in terminal
[18:56] <wxl> (although just a volume control should exist in lxpanel)
[19:01] <venik212> it does exist in the panel, but it only controls the volume.  Under Unity, the volume control indicator also allows access to the sound card properties: which mic to use, etc.
[19:01] <wxl> venik212: no such thing in lxde (yet; want to build one?)
[19:02] <venik212> I am confused-- I thought that under Lubuntu I could use any Ubuntu application.  Alsamixer does not seem to see my rear microphone
[19:02] <venik212> and for some reason, Google Voice mail wants to use only the rear mic
[19:03] <wxl> venik212: try arecord -l
[19:03] <wxl> should list all the capture devices you have
[19:03] <venik212> in terminal?
[19:04] <wxl> venik212: you CAN use any ubuntu app. however, the panel apps require a different panel. at which point you end up steering yourself back towards ubuntu/becoming less lightweight.
[19:04] <wxl> venik212: only way to do it and get reasonable output, eys
[19:09] <venik212> wxl-- I know which devices I have (I have a front and a rear mic), but I must have a way of CHOOSING the rear mic.
[19:09] <wxl> venik212: what i'm asking you to do essentially is to see whether or not alsa (which alsamixer uses) sees the rear mic
[19:10] <venik212> Alsa listed 3 devices, did not call them mics
[19:10] <wxl> copy/paste
[19:12] <venik212> udi@udi-desktop-64:~$ arecord -l **** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices **** card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC1200 Analog [ALC1200 Analog]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC1200 Digital [ALC1200 Digital]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 2: ALC1200 Analog [ALC1200 Analog]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[19:12] <wxl> so none of those are your rear mic?
[19:13] <venik212> I cannot really tell, but given that it says 1/1, I doubt it
[19:14] <wxl> well if none of those are your rear mic then the basic core audio system is not picking up on it which comes as no surprise why you're having problems
[19:14] <venik212> I know how to set it under Unity. so what I need is the name of the application that does it under Unity.  Synapic lists two sound indicators, one with gtk+-- maybe that is the one I need...
[19:14] <AmberJ> venik212, Does front and rear mic mean two separate tangible mics?
[19:14] <venik212> wxl-- I used this very hardware under Unity yesterday
[19:15] <venik212> I think so, since when the front mic is used no sound is recorded
[19:15] <venik212> they are the front and back of the mouthpiece
[19:16] <AmberJ> well, alsamixer should show rear mic then. I have only 1 mic, still it shows rear mic for me...
[19:16] <venik212> I may have to log in in Unity to make that phone call...
[19:16] <AmberJ> oh k
[19:16] <venik212> that is what I use it for-- long distance free calls
[19:16] <AmberJ> try: "sudo apt-get install alsamixergui"
[19:19] <AmberJ> I guess you probably have a low screen resolution and   alsamixer's ncurses-kinda interface refuses to show up rear mic settings on far right side of window...
[19:19] <AmberJ> So, alsamixergui might help
[19:19] <AmberJ> though pressing right arrow key in alsamixer should take you to far right
[19:20] <venik212> screen res is 1920X???
[19:20] <AmberJ> just try starting alsamixer once again and press right key many times....
[19:22] <smile> AmberJ: i hate alsa :|
[19:22] <smile> that's why I use pulseaudio :p
[19:23] <AmberJ> well, alsa (with default configs) has always worked well with my sound card.
[19:23] <wxl> silly smile you DO use alsa
[19:23] <AmberJ> I don't even know difference between alsa and pulseaudio :D
[19:24] <wxl> every *buntu variant passes alsa through a plugin to pulse audio
[19:24] <wxl> read and weep https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[19:24] <smile> wxl: :(
[19:24] <smile> wxl: i want real PulseAudio!! :D
[19:25] <wxl> tell that to the apps you have that require alsa
[19:25] <smile> :)
[19:25] <smile> wxl: kind of compatibility mode? :p
[19:31] <venik212> I FINALLY found something called simply MIXER, which recognized all the things I needed.  ALl is well
[19:32] <venik212> too bad they hide it so well
[19:38] <smile> venik212: i hate sound ;)
[21:48] <doritoDan> Hi.
[21:48] <doritoDan> Installing Lubuntu for the first time. :-)
[21:48] <doritoDan> The installer is sort of glitched.
[21:49] <doritoDan> The cursor is mirrored and the button icons are badly positioned. :S
[21:58] <wxl> doritoDan: uh, which lubuntu you installing via with methodology on what machine?
[21:58] <doritoDan> wxl: The latest desktop one using an iso on a VMware virtual machine.
[21:58] <wxl> latest = 12.04 or 11.10?
[21:59] <doritoDan> 11.10. I did not see a 12.04 on the page.
[21:59] <wxl> well it's in the dailies. it's not official yet, but that doesn't mean you wouldn't want to go with some bleeding edge alpha stuff. not necessarily recommending it.
[21:59] <doritoDan> I never use alphas or betas. :=)
[21:59] <doritoDan> :)*
[21:59] <wxl> anywho, this is the second issue i have heard that revolved around VMware
[22:00] <wxl> i wonder if vmware itself isn't problematic
[22:00] <wxl> or.. are you doing this on windows?
[22:00] <wxl> 64 or x86?
[22:00] <doritoDan> 64.
[22:00] <wxl> vmware in windows?
[22:00] <doritoDan> OSX.
[22:00] <holstein> lol... i consider all non-lts's beta ;)
[22:00] <Unit193> I know VirtualBox works
[22:00] <doritoDan> Hehe.
[22:00] <wxl> oh hush holstein
[22:00] <wxl> yeah i know virtualbox works too
[22:01] <doritoDan> VMware could possibly cause the mirrored mouse cursor, but I have a hard time seeing how it would contribute to the image positioning inside the button elements.
[22:01] <wxl> it's fairly trivial to install on os x. i might recommend giving that a shot.
[22:01] <doritoDan> I think that has to do with me using a localized translation for the installer, and the words beeing so long that the margin between image and text disappears.
[22:01] <doritoDan> effectively making it look weird
[22:01] <wxl> i have an imac running vbox on a 64 and lubuntu has no problem.
[22:02] <wxl> that's possible.
[22:02]  * wxl looks to see who's on the translation team
[22:03] <wxl> what translation?
[22:04] <wxl> stupid subteams page i can't ever find
[22:04]  * wxl grumbles
[22:08] <wxl> yeah i'm kind of at a loss doritoDan without some help from the translation team. i would suggest giving it a shot in virtualbox
[22:08] <wxl> an alternative would be using the alternate installer
[22:09] <Unit193> Or try the LiveCD
[23:00] <doritoDan_> wxl: Swedish.
[23:00] <doritoDan_> Also, I don't have virtualbox.
[23:00] <doritoDan_> But uh
[23:00] <doritoDan_> the installer works.
[23:00] <doritoDan_> I'm just saying, it looks weird.
[23:03] <wxl> doritoDan_: virtualbox is easy to get. it's free. :D
[23:03] <wxl> doritoDan_: it would be interesting to see if the desktop is weird or just the installer
[23:03] <wxl> doritoDan_: so i'd check a livecd
[23:03] <wxl> doritoDan_: if the live cd is ok use the alternate installer and it will be no problem
[23:03] <doritoDan_> How would a livecd differ? It's the same installer. :I
[23:04] <wxl> not for the installer part
[23:04] <doritoDan_> In fact, is there even an installer at all on the livecd?
[23:04] <wxl> to check the cd out silly
[23:04] <wxl> to see if the desktop itself looks messed up
[23:04] <doritoDan_> I never complained about the desktop.
[23:04] <doritoDan_> Just the installer. :)
[23:04] <wxl> anywho either way it sounds like you have a bug of some kind so i'd probably file one
[23:04] <wxl> but first i'd probably eliminate the vmware part of it
[23:04] <wxl> so head over to #vmware and see if they know what the heck you're talking about
[23:05] <wxl> sorry i thought you needed HELP with the installer
[23:06] <wxl> complaining about things is best handled in the form of bug reports
[23:07] <doritoDan_> I'm neither complaining nor asking for help. I merely commented on it to see if it was a design error.
[23:07] <doritoDan_> :)
[23:07] <wxl> again, bug report
[23:10] <doritoDan_> Nah, I don't like bug report systems. They're too cumbersome.
[23:10] <doritoDan_> And badly designed.
[23:10] <doritoDan_> Hmm.. cool. So this is lubuntu. Is there a way to make it automatically bring up the last used user account when starting up the login screen?
[23:11] <doritoDan_> because just now it asked me to type in both my username and password
[23:12] <Unit193> it's called LXDM, that's the idea
[23:16] <doritoDan_> Unit193: What is the idea?
[23:16] <Unit193> LXDM does that, it's normal, nothing different there. You can set autologin if you wanted
[23:18] <doritoDan_> I don't want autologin - i just want it to automatically pick my username
[23:18] <Unit193> Fine, either try LightDM, GDM, KDM, or some other DM that does that :P
[23:25] <doritoDan_> Unit193: Aren't those more resource intensive?
[23:26] <Unit193> Yes, maybe less so for Lightdm
[23:27] <doritoDan_> Isn't there a way to achieve what I want on LXDM?
[23:29] <Unit193> It does with 0.3.0, but you'd have to find a greeter that has it
[23:29] <pingcasts> doritoDan_: you can try slim but the project is dead as far as I know
[23:30] <Unit193> AFAIK, slim needs you to type username
[23:31] <pingcasts> you can configure it to auto login but I think if you leave out the password it'll just do the username
[23:31] <doritoDan_> I got an error when I tried to update my files using the update manager
[23:31] <doritoDan_> "The daemon died."
[23:32] <pingcasts> you could also try lxdm
[23:33] <pingcasts> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LXDM
[23:33] <Unit193> Lubuntu currently uses that by default....
[23:43] <doritoDan_> So does lubuntu run ubuntu apps?
[23:44] <]spectre[> sure doritoDan_
[23:45] <doritoDan_> Cool.