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iceroot | are we facing some kernel-panics on boot about io.c incorrect and upstart cant start on 12.04 after latest dist-upgrade? (cant do launchpad-searching atm) | 09:49 |
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htorque | iceroot: there have been some reports on UF: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904842 | 10:02 |
iceroot | htorque: thank you, thats the issue i am facing, i willl create an bug on this | 10:16 |
brendand | todays precise installer is crashing? | 11:55 |
brendand | is that a known issue? | 11:55 |
jibel | brendand, bug 912563 maybe ? | 13:39 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 912563 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "ubiquity crashed with AttributeError in _decode_value(): 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'decode' (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912563 | 13:39 |
brendand | jibel - don't think so. anyway i tried again and it didn't happen | 13:39 |
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hggdh | jibel: redsocks just made it into Debian. Since DebianImportFreeze is next week, we should not need to request a sync, right? | 14:15 |
hggdh | jibel: and good morning | 14:15 |
jibel | good morning hggdh | 14:16 |
jibel | hggdh, I'm really not mastering sync rules. sorry | 14:16 |
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hggdh | jibel: no prob, will check | 14:28 |
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philobyte | bot asked me to pick a package for bug 912787. Bug involve system crash hang. Dunno whether the item at fault is 3d display driver related, drm related, or kernel related. | 17:22 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 912787 in ubuntu "minecraft causes system hang/crash on 2500k (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912787 | 17:22 |
philobyte | ideas for how to decide? | 17:22 |
charlie-tca | If the bug is in minecraft/caused by minecraft, why wouldn't it be a minecraft bug? | 17:25 |
hggdh | philobyte: hum. It seems it is driven by some sort of minecraft's behaviour, but trashing the system is unusual | 17:25 |
hggdh | philobyte: suggestion: repeat the issue, then, (1) run htop, and kill SEGV minecraft (2) open a bug via the apport crash dialog, and make 912787 a dup of it | 17:27 |
hggdh | but charlie-tca is correct, a first approach is to assign it to minecraft | 17:28 |
philobyte | hggdh: OK done, new bug 912787 | 17:59 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 912787 in ubuntu "minecraft causes system hang/crash on 2500k (dup-of: 912863)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912787 | 17:59 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 912863 in ubuntu "Xorg freeze - minecraft full screen (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912863 | 17:59 |
hggdh | philobyte: how did you collect the data for this bug? | 18:14 |
hggdh | if it was frozen... when? | 18:14 |
philobyte | hggdh: rebooted, and it prompted to enter a bug report. however one element crashed (apport.something something to do with graphics- intel | 18:28 |
philobyte | hggdh: since rebooted, did apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; then reproduced in a few minutes. now it just hangs, cannot do ps and no response to ping. | 18:29 |
hggdh | philobyte: which component prompted for a crash report? | 18:30 |
philobyte | hggdh: xorg | 18:30 |
philobyte | hggdh: I think... not really sure.. | 18:30 |
hggdh | so why did the bug get assigned to Ubuntu instead of xorg? | 18:30 |
hggdh | you overrode it? | 18:31 |
philobyte | hggdh: because I ¨knew better¨ yup. | 18:31 |
hggdh | right. Unfortunately, I would guess you did not, not really ;-) | 18:31 |
hggdh | look at /var/crash, and see what apport reports you have there | 18:32 |
philobyte | hggdh: un-huh... four reports from xserver-xorg-video-intel from January 2nd..one from a few minutes ago from chromium browser, another from jan 2 about update-manager | 18:34 |
hggdh | darn! nothing really applicable | 18:34 |
philobyte | also. /var/crash/.lock is there, dated 13h07 (currently 13h34.) | 18:34 |
hggdh | philobyte: we will need to repeat -- we have to get the data *before* you reboot, and -- consequently -- before the system freezes | 18:35 |
philobyte | so run apport-bug now? | 18:35 |
hggdh | no, there is nothing wrong on your system right now | 18:36 |
philobyte | ok... the suspense is killing me... what are you suggesting I do? | 18:36 |
philobyte | I can log in remotely with minecraft running, before it hangs? | 18:37 |
bil21al | bdmurray: please set its importance to medium and also triage it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/900921 | 18:37 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 900921 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "can't create new conversations from the contact list (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:37 |
hggdh | philobyte: yes, this should help. We need to identify which component is getting lost (I am guessing, right now, either the kernel or Xorg) | 18:38 |
bdmurray | bil21al: medium although its wishlist upstream? | 18:40 |
bil21al | bdmurray: ohh sorry sorry sorry yes yes its wishlist in upstream it would be opinion in downstream | 18:42 |
bil21al | actually there is another bug in front of me | 18:42 |
bil21al | so | 18:43 |
bil21al | and wishlist would be importance | 18:43 |
bdmurray | I'm not sure opinion is the best status as then it won't show up in default searches so it will be harder for people to find | 18:44 |
bdmurray | which then invites more duplicates | 18:44 |
hggdh | bdmurray: let's leave it as medium, then? | 18:45 |
philobyte | hggdh: ok submitted two more, once just after starting minecraft, other one, is now in hang state, but remote session still works, not rebooting for now (using laptop for this session) | 18:46 |
bil21al | hmm than set triage in status and imp wishlist | 18:47 |
bdmurray | hggdh: medium is an importance and opinion is a status. ;-) | 18:47 |
bdmurray | bil21al: done, thanks! | 18:48 |
bil21al | bdmurray:thanks to u | 18:48 |
hggdh | bdmurray: duh. | 18:48 |
hggdh | bdmurray: it should then be wontfix, since upstream will not fix it (they are relying on the haze transition) | 18:49 |
karni | Hi guys. Could you please confirm I should have assigned this to unity rather than compiz? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/912885 Thank you. | 18:49 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 912885 in unity (Ubuntu) "Newly opened eog window does not gain focus. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 18:49 |
karni | It's a really frustrating bug, and I'm wondering if my compiz/unity config is broken and I can clean it up somehow, or it's a real bug. | 18:50 |
karni | Cheers | 18:50 |
philobyte | hggdg: anything you want me to do while I have the system half-hung (minecraft is hung, but my remote session is ok?) | 18:52 |
hggdh | philobyte: if you can issue commands remotely, check dmesg for a kernel OOPS/bug: dmesg|less | 18:54 |
hggdh | philobyte: and see if you can pinpoint an OOPS | 18:54 |
hggdh | or anything "weird" | 18:54 |
philobyte | hggh: cpu backtraces, one after the other? | 18:55 |
hggdh | philobyte: for example | 18:58 |
hggdh | if you see them, then we have a linux (this is the kernel) bug | 18:58 |
philobyte | hggdh: OK added it to bug 912863 | 19:05 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 912863 in ubuntu "Xorg freeze - minecraft full screen (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912863 | 19:05 |
hggdh | philobyte: not good enough ;-) | 19:06 |
philobyte | hggdh: also, this time, the sound hangs ... not enough... what is needed? | 19:07 |
hggdh | philobyte: run 'apport-collect 912863' from the remote session. I already re-tasked the bug to the kernel | 19:07 |
hggdh | philobyte: there is a slew of different data we need for kernel bugs | 19:12 |
philobyte | hggdh: I dunno, the apport-bug thing stuck me into a curses-based browser to authenticate... succeeded, but just had a logged in screen... the report didn't make it into the report... | 19:16 |
philobyte | hggdh: OK second time, got through it ok. bug updated | 19:26 |
philobyte | bug 912863 updated | 19:27 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 912863 in linux (Ubuntu) "Xorg freeze - minecraft full screen (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912863 | 19:27 |
philobyte | hggdh: anything else useful to collect? | 19:28 |
hggdh | philobyte: a description of what you were doing (already there), and what you did to grab the data | 19:30 |
hggdh | philobyte: if you cannot access the system locally but are still able to do so remotely, this is a good bit of info | 19:31 |
philobyte | hggdh: ok added two comments about that. | 19:37 |
hggdh | philobyte: there is a request to try it with the new kernel (3.2.0-8) | 20:21 |
philobyte | hggdh: The kernel upgrade actually fixed it. My kernel was still at 3.0.0 because whenever I did apt-get upgrade, the kernel was being kept-back. forced it forward, and the new kernel is ok, or at least it will take more effort to provoke the issue. | 21:15 |
philobyte | hgghd: thank you! | 21:15 |
hggdh | philobyte: cool! Please add this comment in the bug, and mark it invalid (at least for now) | 21:25 |
micahg | philobyte: you generally want a dist-upgrade instead of an upgrade to get those newer packages like kernels | 21:25 |
hggdh | or to use update-manager (or use synaptic, and be very careful on what you upgrade)-- dist-upgrade *can* break your system | 21:43 |
micahg | philobyte: ^^ yes, see what hggdh said | 22:14 |
bkerensa | bdmurray: You know in the logout/shutdown/sys settings indicator it has a field called "Software is up to date" well I noticed in 12.04 if you do a sudo apt-get update and their are new updates it doesnt immediatly update that field to "Updates Available" | 23:17 |
bdmurray | bkerensa: do you know about how long it takes? | 23:17 |
bkerensa | bdmurray: I'm not sure I just noticed but I have update-manager open and it shows I have updates available but the indicator thing is not reflecting updates available and its been 10 mins now | 23:19 |
bkerensa | if I knew what that indicator package was I could report a bug | 23:19 |
bdmurray | bkerensa: I'm guessing its indicator-session | 23:20 |
bdmurray | I used 'ps aux | grep indicator' | 23:21 |
bkerensa | bdmurray: I also noticed that I cannot take screenshots when I have indicator-session toggled :( | 23:21 |
bdmurray | bkerensa: gnome-screenshot --delay=seconds | 23:22 |
bkerensa | bdmurray: I have filed bug #912971 | 23:28 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 912971 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "indicator-session inaccurately reports "Software Up to Date" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912971 | 23:28 |
bdmurray | bkerensa: cool, thanks | 23:29 |
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bkerensa | bdmurray: Eventually I hope to apply for control.. I had applied months ago but got denied so I kind of have avoided applying again :) | 23:32 |
bkerensa | I think its actually been a year now | 23:32 |
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