=== zyga_ is now known as zyga === zz_bigbash is now known as bigbash === bigbash is now known as zz_bigbash === dwg_ is now known as dwg === jhelwig is now known as jhelwig_ === jhelwig_ is now known as jhelwig [09:49] are we facing some kernel-panics on boot about io.c incorrect and upstart cant start on 12.04 after latest dist-upgrade? (cant do launchpad-searching atm) [10:02] iceroot: there have been some reports on UF: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1904842 [10:16] htorque: thank you, thats the issue i am facing, i willl create an bug on this [11:55] todays precise installer is crashing? [11:55] is that a known issue? [13:39] brendand, bug 912563 maybe ? [13:39] Launchpad bug 912563 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) (and 1 other project) "ubiquity crashed with AttributeError in _decode_value(): 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'decode' (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912563 [13:39] jibel - don't think so. anyway i tried again and it didn't happen [13:39] * brendand shrugs [14:15] jibel: redsocks just made it into Debian. Since DebianImportFreeze is next week, we should not need to request a sync, right? [14:15] jibel: and good morning [14:16] good morning hggdh [14:16] hggdh, I'm really not mastering sync rules. sorry === bladernr_afk is now known as bladernr_ [14:28] jibel: no prob, will check === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:22] bot asked me to pick a package for bug 912787. Bug involve system crash hang. Dunno whether the item at fault is 3d display driver related, drm related, or kernel related. [17:22] Launchpad bug 912787 in ubuntu "minecraft causes system hang/crash on 2500k (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912787 [17:22] ideas for how to decide? [17:25] If the bug is in minecraft/caused by minecraft, why wouldn't it be a minecraft bug? [17:25] philobyte: hum. It seems it is driven by some sort of minecraft's behaviour, but trashing the system is unusual [17:27] philobyte: suggestion: repeat the issue, then, (1) run htop, and kill SEGV minecraft (2) open a bug via the apport crash dialog, and make 912787 a dup of it [17:28] but charlie-tca is correct, a first approach is to assign it to minecraft [17:59] hggdh: OK done, new bug 912787 [17:59] Launchpad bug 912787 in ubuntu "minecraft causes system hang/crash on 2500k (dup-of: 912863)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912787 [17:59] Launchpad bug 912863 in ubuntu "Xorg freeze - minecraft full screen (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912863 [18:14] philobyte: how did you collect the data for this bug? [18:14] if it was frozen... when? [18:28] hggdh: rebooted, and it prompted to enter a bug report. however one element crashed (apport.something something to do with graphics- intel [18:29] hggdh: since rebooted, did apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; then reproduced in a few minutes. now it just hangs, cannot do ps and no response to ping. [18:30] philobyte: which component prompted for a crash report? [18:30] hggdh: xorg [18:30] hggdh: I think... not really sure.. [18:30] so why did the bug get assigned to Ubuntu instead of xorg? [18:31] you overrode it? [18:31] hggdh: because I ¨knew better¨ yup. [18:31] right. Unfortunately, I would guess you did not, not really ;-) [18:32] look at /var/crash, and see what apport reports you have there [18:34] hggdh: un-huh... four reports from xserver-xorg-video-intel from January 2nd..one from a few minutes ago from chromium browser, another from jan 2 about update-manager [18:34] darn! nothing really applicable [18:34] also. /var/crash/.lock is there, dated 13h07 (currently 13h34.) [18:35] philobyte: we will need to repeat -- we have to get the data *before* you reboot, and -- consequently -- before the system freezes [18:35] so run apport-bug now? [18:36] no, there is nothing wrong on your system right now [18:36] ok... the suspense is killing me... what are you suggesting I do? [18:37] I can log in remotely with minecraft running, before it hangs? [18:37] bdmurray: please set its importance to medium and also triage it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/900921 [18:37] Launchpad bug 900921 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "can't create new conversations from the contact list (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] [18:38] philobyte: yes, this should help. We need to identify which component is getting lost (I am guessing, right now, either the kernel or Xorg) [18:40] bil21al: medium although its wishlist upstream? [18:42] bdmurray: ohh sorry sorry sorry yes yes its wishlist in upstream it would be opinion in downstream [18:42] actually there is another bug in front of me [18:43] so [18:43] and wishlist would be importance [18:44] I'm not sure opinion is the best status as then it won't show up in default searches so it will be harder for people to find [18:44] which then invites more duplicates [18:45] bdmurray: let's leave it as medium, then? [18:46] hggdh: ok submitted two more, once just after starting minecraft, other one, is now in hang state, but remote session still works, not rebooting for now (using laptop for this session) [18:47] hmm than set triage in status and imp wishlist [18:47] hggdh: medium is an importance and opinion is a status. ;-) [18:48] bil21al: done, thanks! [18:48] bdmurray:thanks to u [18:48] bdmurray: duh. [18:49] bdmurray: it should then be wontfix, since upstream will not fix it (they are relying on the haze transition) [18:49] Hi guys. Could you please confirm I should have assigned this to unity rather than compiz? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/912885 Thank you. [18:49] Launchpad bug 912885 in unity (Ubuntu) "Newly opened eog window does not gain focus. (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [18:50] It's a really frustrating bug, and I'm wondering if my compiz/unity config is broken and I can clean it up somehow, or it's a real bug. [18:50] Cheers [18:52] hggdg: anything you want me to do while I have the system half-hung (minecraft is hung, but my remote session is ok?) [18:54] philobyte: if you can issue commands remotely, check dmesg for a kernel OOPS/bug: dmesg|less [18:54] philobyte: and see if you can pinpoint an OOPS [18:54] or anything "weird" [18:55] hggh: cpu backtraces, one after the other? [18:58] philobyte: for example [18:58] if you see them, then we have a linux (this is the kernel) bug [19:05] hggdh: OK added it to bug 912863 [19:05] Launchpad bug 912863 in ubuntu "Xorg freeze - minecraft full screen (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912863 [19:06] philobyte: not good enough ;-) [19:07] hggdh: also, this time, the sound hangs ... not enough... what is needed? [19:07] philobyte: run 'apport-collect 912863' from the remote session. I already re-tasked the bug to the kernel [19:12] philobyte: there is a slew of different data we need for kernel bugs [19:16] hggdh: I dunno, the apport-bug thing stuck me into a curses-based browser to authenticate... succeeded, but just had a logged in screen... the report didn't make it into the report... [19:26] hggdh: OK second time, got through it ok. bug updated [19:27] bug 912863 updated [19:27] Launchpad bug 912863 in linux (Ubuntu) "Xorg freeze - minecraft full screen (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912863 [19:28] hggdh: anything else useful to collect? [19:30] philobyte: a description of what you were doing (already there), and what you did to grab the data [19:31] philobyte: if you cannot access the system locally but are still able to do so remotely, this is a good bit of info [19:37] hggdh: ok added two comments about that. [20:21] philobyte: there is a request to try it with the new kernel (3.2.0-8) [21:15] hggdh: The kernel upgrade actually fixed it. My kernel was still at 3.0.0 because whenever I did apt-get upgrade, the kernel was being kept-back. forced it forward, and the new kernel is ok, or at least it will take more effort to provoke the issue. [21:15] hgghd: thank you! [21:25] philobyte: cool! Please add this comment in the bug, and mark it invalid (at least for now) [21:25] philobyte: you generally want a dist-upgrade instead of an upgrade to get those newer packages like kernels [21:43] or to use update-manager (or use synaptic, and be very careful on what you upgrade)-- dist-upgrade *can* break your system [22:14] philobyte: ^^ yes, see what hggdh said [23:17] bdmurray: You know in the logout/shutdown/sys settings indicator it has a field called "Software is up to date" well I noticed in 12.04 if you do a sudo apt-get update and their are new updates it doesnt immediatly update that field to "Updates Available" [23:17] bkerensa: do you know about how long it takes? [23:19] bdmurray: I'm not sure I just noticed but I have update-manager open and it shows I have updates available but the indicator thing is not reflecting updates available and its been 10 mins now [23:19] if I knew what that indicator package was I could report a bug [23:20] bkerensa: I'm guessing its indicator-session [23:21] I used 'ps aux | grep indicator' [23:21] bdmurray: I also noticed that I cannot take screenshots when I have indicator-session toggled :( [23:22] bkerensa: gnome-screenshot --delay=seconds [23:28] bdmurray: I have filed bug #912971 [23:28] Launchpad bug 912971 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "indicator-session inaccurately reports "Software Up to Date" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/912971 [23:29] bkerensa: cool, thanks === bladernr_ is now known as bladernr_afk [23:32] bdmurray: Eventually I hope to apply for control.. I had applied months ago but got denied so I kind of have avoided applying again :) [23:32] I think its actually been a year now