| czajkowski | aloha | 05:45 |
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| duanedesign | 'lo all | 14:22 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: ping me when you have a few minutes | 15:16 |
| jcastro | mhall119: yep, one sec | 15:35 |
| jcastro | james_w: app dev guy coming your way in #ubuntu-app-devel | 15:36 |
| james_w | thanks | 15:36 |
| jcastro | I have no dpm today but this guy has a lens in review | 15:36 |
| jcastro | and wants to stick more things in USC | 15:36 |
| jcastro | he's pretty awesome, pretty sure you guys will want to get his feedback on the whole process | 15:37 |
| jcastro | james_w: stefannopallazo | 15:37 |
| jcastro | mhall119: I have time, que tal? | 15:37 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: wanted to talk to you about the email I forwarded last night from Stefano | 15:37 |
| jcastro | which stefano? | 15:38 |
| jcastro | dpl stefano? | 15:38 |
| mhall119 | yeah | 15:38 |
| jcastro | O_O, can you resend? I don't appear to have gotten it | 15:38 |
| jcastro | wanna G+ then or what? | 15:39 |
| mhall119 | yeh, already invited you to a hangouot | 15:39 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: zack or zach? | 16:38 |
| mhall119 | nvm,I found it | 16:39 |
| mhall119 | man, I'm about to quick thunderbird and go back to evolution | 16:45 |
| duanedesign | hello mhall119, weloce to tjr faamily | 17:15 |
| mhall119 | duanedesign: tjr? | 17:28 |
| * mhall119 assumes 'welcome to the family', as in, "back to evolution" | 17:28 | |
| doctormon | mhall119: back to reality! | 17:34 |
| mhall119 | heh | 17:34 |
| mhall119 | thunderbird is great when it's not unresponsive and consuming 50% of my cpu time | 17:34 |
| mhall119 | which is becoming increasingly frequent | 17:34 |
| doctormon | mhall119: Almost everything makes my computer unresponsive now, gnome-terminal, firefox, rythembox, flash. it's weird as if the kernel is programmed to give priority to useless crap. | 17:35 |
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| balloons | did anyone see this in kernel 3.2? http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.2#head-fbc26b4522e4e990a9ea1aebd4a73a68e8ee5e07 | 17:49 |
| snap-l | balloons: No, but that's nice | 17:50 |
| snap-l | Should make using slow USB thumbdrives a lot nicer as well | 17:50 |
| balloons | they are saying it gives a nice desktop responsiveness boost under those conditions.. let's hope so :-) | 17:51 |
| jcastro | mhall119: invite to run the unity G+ page sent | 18:13 |
| jcastro | mhall119: you'll need to ping njpatel for access to the twitter account | 18:14 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: thanks | 18:19 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: can you invite me by my @gmail.com instead? I don't have a separate G+ for my @canonical account | 18:21 |
| jcastro | ok | 18:23 |
| * jcastro thrusts, new charm! | 18:33 | |
| snap-l | please to be undoing that mental image from my mind. | 18:41 |
| doctormon | pictures or it didn't happen | 18:44 |
| mhall119 | doctormon: anybody who knows jcastro doesn't have any doubts :) | 18:45 |
| doctormon | mhall119: Do we know jcastro? do we? ;-) | 18:46 |
| mhall119 | good point | 18:46 |
| mhall119 | I've seen him without a redwings shirt, I think that counts as an intimate moment | 18:46 |
| snap-l | I think he has Red Wings footie PJs | 18:49 |
| mhall119 | lol | 18:50 |
| nigelb | popey: I'll still say "popey decides to shut down more mailing lists" :D | 19:43 |
| akgraner | haha | 19:44 |
| popey | a:p | 19:45 |
| popey | -a | 19:45 |
| mhall119 | what's popey doing now? | 19:47 |
| popey | #blamepleia2 | 19:48 |
| nigelb | lol | 19:48 |
| mhall119 | lol | 19:49 |
| pleia2 | truly it's #blameYokoZar | 19:49 |
| popey | pffft | 19:50 |
| popey | details | 19:50 |
| popey | the most important thing is that it's not #blamepopey | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | needs to be p-name to flow properly I suppose | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | :) | 19:50 |
| popey | +1 | 19:50 |
| popey | feel free to change your name | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | nah, I'd hate to lose the fun of jcastro calling me "playa" | 19:51 |
| popey | hahah | 19:51 |
| popey | hmm, I am imagining that now | 19:52 |
| popey | I will now stop | 19:52 |
| * popey makes mental notes to also call you play-aaaa | 19:52 | |
| pleia2 | hah | 19:52 |
| mhall119 | #blamepnigelb | 19:58 |
| popey | it's a silent p huh? | 19:59 |
| mhall119 | yeah, yeah, that's it | 19:59 |
| nigelb | ha | 19:59 |
| mhall119 | like pneumatic | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | nigelb: find anyone to do a basic Unity talk for User Days yet? :D | 20:00 |
| * pleia2 will nag every 12 hours | 20:00 | |
| mhall119 | pnag | 20:02 |
| mhall119 | pleia2: do you have anyone particular in mind? | 20:03 |
| popey | basic unity as in navigation? | 20:03 |
| pleia2 | mhall119: nope | 20:03 |
| pleia2 | popey: nagivation, what is a lense, tips and tricks, someone able to answer basic questions about it | 20:04 |
| popey | when is the user day? | 20:04 |
| nigelb | pleia2: I just got home after a 14-hour drive :) | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | someone is already doing one exclusively on lenses | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | popey: Saturday the 14th | 20:04 |
| popey | of | 20:04 |
| Pendulum | nigelb: excuses, excuses | 20:05 |
| nigelb | why not get our new external dev relations guy do the talk? | 20:05 |
| nigelb | Pendulum: haha, I love you too :P | 20:05 |
| popey | oh, next saturday | 20:05 |
| * Pendulum hugs nigelb | 20:05 | |
| popey | drat, was going to offer but I'll be on a train | 20:05 |
| popey | budapest -> vienna | 20:05 |
| * nigelb hugs Pendulum | 20:05 | |
| nigelb | popey: *JEALOUS* | 20:05 |
| nigelb | Of cour | 20:05 |
| nigelb | Of course, I had breakfast and dinner on the beach for a week...but still.. | 20:06 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: dholbach isn't new | 20:08 |
| nigelb | ha, nice try. | 20:09 |
| doctormon | mhall119: You're external dev relations now? | 20:31 |
| mhall119 | no, daniel still is | 20:35 |
| mhall119 | I'm upstream liason | 20:35 |
| doctormon | mhall119: How far upstream does one have to be to get to be external? | 20:36 |
| mhall119 | until you read the outside | 20:36 |
| mhall119 | reach | 20:37 |
| doctormon | Yeah the matrix, no I mean where is the line? | 20:37 |
| doctormon | do you hav eot be external to debian, external to open source or just external to ubuntu main? | 20:38 |
| mhall119 | outside of Canonical | 20:40 |
| mhall119 | specifcally I'll be working on promoting Unity development, so if an intelligent young hacker has a desire to write an awesome Launchpad lens... | 20:41 |
| doctormon | mhall119: So.. if I understand you correctly... an upstream dev will almost always be an external dev, except for where Canonical is the upstream as in unity and ubiquity? | 20:50 |
| jcastro | pleia2: I am disappointed that the new mailing list purge was not named "Project Popey" | 20:51 |
| pleia2 | haha | 20:51 |
| mhall119 | doctormon: yeah, I'm kind of on both sides, work with Ubuntu's upstreams (debian, gnome, mozilla, etc), and also work with developers for whom Ubuntu technology like Unity is their upstream | 20:53 |
| doctormon | mhall119: M Double API Hall ;-) So if I were debian, I can talk to you about Ubuntish things. and If I were a crazy lens developer, I could talk to you about unity? | 20:54 |
| mhall119 | *if* you were a crazy lens developer? | 20:55 |
| doctormon | mhall119: I'm not published yet, I'm a crazy 'secretive' lens developer at the moment. | 20:56 |
| mhall119 | secrets? heathen! | 20:57 |
| doctormon | Actually I'm already running a dbus api so I think instead of running two processes, I'll try tie up that one. | 20:57 |
| mhall119 | doctormon: we will hopefully have a lense template for quickly in the near future, based off singlet | 20:58 |
| doctormon | pleia2: Had a good talk with wendar about ubuntu-design, are you still in to talk about it? | 20:58 |
| pleia2 | doctormon: yep (and thanks for your email the other day) | 20:59 |
| doctormon | mhall119: Do I need a service file at all if my dbus is running from my indicator? | 20:59 |
| mhall119 | if it's already running? I don't think so | 21:00 |
| doctormon | awesome beans, it's just an interface with a def in that case. | 21:00 |
| mhall119 | I'm not sure if you can have a lens use the same dbus name/path as something else though | 21:01 |
| doctormon | No need, multiple names are certainly possible. Although I wonder if you can define two [lens] entries in the def. | 21:03 |
| mhall119 | a lens is just a GObject instance, so I don't see why you can't define as many as you like | 21:04 |
| doctormon | mhall119: In the same def file I mean. | 21:05 |
| mhall119 | the same .lens you mean? | 21:05 |
| mhall119 | doctormon: that sounds like a question for #ayatana | 21:06 |
| doctormon | understood, probably want to do projects and bugs searching if not more. multiple .lens files would be needed I guess. | 21:06 |
| mhall119 | only one lens, you can do multiple scopes | 21:07 |
| mhall119 | may not even need separate scopes | 21:08 |
| doctormon | mhall119: You're not using dbus directly in singlet? It looks like Gio/Dee or something somewhere. | 21:09 |
| mhall119 | doctormon: singlet just hides it | 21:09 |
| mhall119 | it's just under the surface | 21:09 |
| doctormon | I'll be honest, I can't find it. | 21:09 |
| mhall119 | singlet.lens.base | 21:10 |
| mhall119 | singlet/lens/base.pu | 21:10 |
| mhall119 | py | 21:10 |
| mhall119 | it's in there | 21:10 |
| mhall119 | if you need to use GIO, Dee or DBus, you'll need to import them in your code file | 21:10 |
| mhall119 | singlet doesn't expose it directly | 21:10 |
| doctormon | mhall119: See, there insn't a mention of DBus in base.py, perhaps it's coming from the Unity include? | 21:11 |
| mhall119 | yeah, Unity.Lens and Unity.Scope both take DBus paths | 21:12 |
| doctormon | Is there not a way this can be done manually? | 21:12 |
| doctormon | Or does one have to use Unity objects like this? | 21:13 |
| mhall119 | you mean manually talk to DBus, skipping the GObject parts? | 21:14 |
| mhall119 | I have no idea | 21:14 |
| mhall119 | I want to avoid that, personally | 21:14 |
| doctormon | Not that, in all the ways I've ever done DBus, your code looks like it doesn't do DBus at all. Which leads me to think that I'm misunderstanding this thing. | 21:14 |
| mhall119 | give me a clean, domain specific, python API | 21:14 |
| mhall119 | doctormon: I think the libunity does the DBus stuff, PyGObject lets us call the libunity objects from Python | 21:15 |
| doctormon | Ah, so it goes MyLens( Singlet( libunity( DBus --> out ))) | 21:16 |
| mhall119 | with GObject between Singlet and libunity | 21:17 |
| doctormon | I could say the same between normal python dbus and a program. It's just one of those default things. | 21:17 |
| doctormon | libunity is C based I take it | 21:18 |
| mhall119 | or C++ | 21:18 |
| mhall119 | something I'm not very good at anyway, which is all that really matters | 21:18 |
| doctormon | mhall119: If I use libunity, it might kill all my existing dbus interfaces (because it's not python and is wrapping dbus) and yet I still need to be running a central account for launchpad services. | 21:20 |
| mhall119 | I'm not following... | 21:20 |
| doctormon | I think I might just make it double api'd i.e. GroundControl <-DBus-> GCLens <-DBus-> Unity. | 21:22 |
| mhall119 | that should work fine | 21:23 |
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