[00:38] <micahg> awesome :)
[00:39] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do you know why the langpacks are built on non-i386 archs?
[00:39] <micahg> rather, is there a reason for that
[00:40] <BarkingFish> Morning guys - Just wondering if you can help fairly quickly, I got an update earlier to thunderbird mail, and it's now not working at the current version.  I click to open, the icon sits for a few moments, but thunderbird does not open, no gui, nada
[00:42] <micahg> BarkingFish: what release?
[00:42] <micahg> BarkingFish: you probably have an incompatible addon
[00:43] <BarkingFish> Installed: 9.0+build2-0ubuntu0.11.10.1
[00:43] <BarkingFish> and I have no addons whatsoever
[00:44] <micahg> hmm...
[00:44] <micahg> I'm running the same build with addons
[00:44] <micahg> BarkingFish: try starting in safe mode, thunderbird -safe-mode I believe
[00:44] <BarkingFish> what are you on, ubuntu or kubuntu, and which version?
[00:44] <micahg> ubuntu
[00:44] <BarkingFish> ah
[00:44] <BarkingFish> I'm on Kubuntu, 11.10
[00:45] <micahg> BarkingFish: can you run 'strace -f -eopen thunderbird 2>&1 | tee ~/thunderbird.strace' and see if you get anything interesting
[00:46] <BarkingFish> ok, give me a moment, anything pops up and i'll pastebinit for you
[00:47] <BarkingFish> holy cow
[00:47] <BarkingFish> I got so much it blew my konsole scrollback :0
[00:47] <micahg> well, you should get output (stored in that file) the question is is there any interesting output
[00:48] <micahg> CTRL-C to stop if the gui doesn't pop up
[00:48] <BarkingFish> i didn't get a chance to check it all, it went past so fast and probably half of it is missing :)
[00:48] <BarkingFish> the GUI did come up though
[00:48] <micahg> cool :)
[00:48] <micahg> weird though
[00:49] <micahg> ISTR someone else having a similar issue, that it would only run in gdb
[00:49] <micahg> but that was firefox
[00:49] <micahg> BarkingFish: can you check the addons manager, Tools -> Addons to see if anything interesting is in there
[00:50] <BarkingFish> i'm running strace etc into a text file, so I can pastebin it up - pastebinit won't read directly from strace :(
[00:50] <BarkingFish> sure
[00:50] <micahg> BarkingFish: you already did that, tee writes to the file given as well as STDOUT
[00:51] <BarkingFish> oh crud
[00:51] <BarkingFish> so I now have a text file writing a text file into a text file :P The paradox of the century :)
[00:51] <micahg> heh
[00:51] <BarkingFish> micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/794439/
[00:52] <BarkingFish> that was one hell of a file :)
[00:55] <micahg> BarkingFish: email might have been better :)
[00:55] <micahg> yeah, it comes out fast
[00:56] <micahg> BarkingFish: so, I'd suggest disabling the unity and messaging menu integration in the addons and see if that helps
[00:56] <BarkingFish> micahg: I figured email would have been faster too, but until I get the email client stable and I'm certain it's gonna work, I wasn't gonna send anything out
[00:56] <micahg> BarkingFish: oh, right :)
[00:56] <BarkingFish> i didn't realise i had any addons. It's great that things get put in without your knowledge :P
[00:57] <BarkingFish> I certainly didn't add them
[00:57] <micahg> BarkingFish: those seem to be the only real failures in terms of not being able to open
[00:58] <BarkingFish> all disabled, how do I remove them, since I didn't install them, and I don't really want my email client bloated with [censored] I didn't ask for :)
[00:58] <micahg> BarkingFish: yeah, globalmenu is a recommends, messaging menu is just shipped in the thunderbird binary for some reason
[00:58] <BarkingFish> i'd prefer them all out of the system if I can get rid of them
[00:58] <micahg> BarkingFish: thunderbird-globalmenu you can uninstall with muon
[00:59] <BarkingFish> i use apper, but whatever :)
[00:59] <micahg> the other one, you can't really remove ATM, you can ask chrisccoulson when he gets back if he'd consider putting that in its own binary
[00:59] <BarkingFish> it would be nice
[00:59] <micahg> BarkingFish: sure, I just figured Muon since it's the Kubuntu default
[01:00] <BarkingFish> it's our default?
[01:00] <micahg> I thought Muon was the default package manager for Kubuntu
[01:00]  * BarkingFish shakes his head. 
[01:01]  * micahg could be wrong
[01:01] <BarkingFish> It used to be kpackagekit, which died when packagekit wouldn't build for 11.10, and it was changed to apper I thought, by dantti from kde
[01:04] <BarkingFish> apparently, micahg - it IS muon
[01:04] <BarkingFish> and that disappoints me no end, because muon is a royal pain in the backside :)
[22:10] <FernandoMiguel> evening