[00:38] awesome :) [00:39] chrisccoulson: do you know why the langpacks are built on non-i386 archs? [00:39] rather, is there a reason for that [00:40] Morning guys - Just wondering if you can help fairly quickly, I got an update earlier to thunderbird mail, and it's now not working at the current version. I click to open, the icon sits for a few moments, but thunderbird does not open, no gui, nada [00:42] BarkingFish: what release? [00:42] BarkingFish: you probably have an incompatible addon [00:43] Installed: 9.0+build2-0ubuntu0.11.10.1 [00:43] and I have no addons whatsoever [00:44] hmm... [00:44] I'm running the same build with addons [00:44] BarkingFish: try starting in safe mode, thunderbird -safe-mode I believe [00:44] what are you on, ubuntu or kubuntu, and which version? [00:44] ubuntu [00:44] ah [00:44] I'm on Kubuntu, 11.10 [00:45] BarkingFish: can you run 'strace -f -eopen thunderbird 2>&1 | tee ~/thunderbird.strace' and see if you get anything interesting [00:46] ok, give me a moment, anything pops up and i'll pastebinit for you [00:47] holy cow [00:47] I got so much it blew my konsole scrollback :0 [00:47] well, you should get output (stored in that file) the question is is there any interesting output [00:48] CTRL-C to stop if the gui doesn't pop up [00:48] i didn't get a chance to check it all, it went past so fast and probably half of it is missing :) [00:48] the GUI did come up though [00:48] cool :) [00:48] weird though [00:49] ISTR someone else having a similar issue, that it would only run in gdb [00:49] but that was firefox [00:49] BarkingFish: can you check the addons manager, Tools -> Addons to see if anything interesting is in there [00:50] i'm running strace etc into a text file, so I can pastebin it up - pastebinit won't read directly from strace :( [00:50] sure === go8765 is now known as go8765-off [00:50] BarkingFish: you already did that, tee writes to the file given as well as STDOUT [00:51] oh crud [00:51] so I now have a text file writing a text file into a text file :P The paradox of the century :) [00:51] heh [00:51] micahg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/794439/ [00:52] that was one hell of a file :) [00:55] BarkingFish: email might have been better :) [00:55] yeah, it comes out fast [00:56] BarkingFish: so, I'd suggest disabling the unity and messaging menu integration in the addons and see if that helps [00:56] micahg: I figured email would have been faster too, but until I get the email client stable and I'm certain it's gonna work, I wasn't gonna send anything out [00:56] BarkingFish: oh, right :) [00:56] i didn't realise i had any addons. It's great that things get put in without your knowledge :P [00:57] I certainly didn't add them [00:57] BarkingFish: those seem to be the only real failures in terms of not being able to open [00:58] all disabled, how do I remove them, since I didn't install them, and I don't really want my email client bloated with [censored] I didn't ask for :) [00:58] BarkingFish: yeah, globalmenu is a recommends, messaging menu is just shipped in the thunderbird binary for some reason [00:58] i'd prefer them all out of the system if I can get rid of them [00:58] BarkingFish: thunderbird-globalmenu you can uninstall with muon [00:59] i use apper, but whatever :) [00:59] the other one, you can't really remove ATM, you can ask chrisccoulson when he gets back if he'd consider putting that in its own binary [00:59] it would be nice [00:59] BarkingFish: sure, I just figured Muon since it's the Kubuntu default [01:00] it's our default? [01:00] I thought Muon was the default package manager for Kubuntu [01:00] * BarkingFish shakes his head. [01:01] * micahg could be wrong [01:01] It used to be kpackagekit, which died when packagekit wouldn't build for 11.10, and it was changed to apper I thought, by dantti from kde [01:04] apparently, micahg - it IS muon [01:04] and that disappoints me no end, because muon is a royal pain in the backside :) === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === gavin__ is now known as gavin [22:10] evening === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away