[00:00] <ramon> sda7 and sdc7 are 2 different hard drives... one could be a usb drive.
[00:00]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[00:00] <Safe_> ramon: Yeah, both are permanent, one is sata and the other ide, but they keep switching on me.
[00:01] <humamiaz> mon0 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 6
[00:01] <humamiaz> Interface Chipset Driver
[00:01] <humamiaz> wlan0 Unknown rt2800usb - [phy0]
[00:01] <humamiaz> mon0 Unknown rt2800usb - [phy0]
[00:01] <FloodBot1> humamiaz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:01] <humamiaz> help me ...
[00:01] <d1g1ta1> stepnjump: that's my point, you cannot trust one thing.  the cloud is just like any other storage, how would you know if you lost a file on your hard drive?  if the data is important, someone has to mind the store.  and, backup, backup, backup and test the backups.
[00:01] <usr13> Safe_: If it is a USB device, then yes, it may be sdb one time and sdc another, just depends on what has been plugged in before it.
[00:02] <Safe_> usr13: That's the thing, both those drives are permanent drives so they shouldn't switch.
[00:02] <Safe_> I'm suspicious it messes up grub for me, since it wont even boot.
[00:02] <usr13> Safe_: As far as the working hard drive, whether it's sata or ide, it shouldn't be switching.  Let us have a look at your /etc/fstab file.
[00:02] <usr13> Safe_: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[00:03] <usr13> Safe_: (I think you are mistaken.)
[00:03] <ramon> Safe: I would also suspect the BIOS settings, but that's just me.
[00:03] <d1g1ta1> stepnjump: I'm not targeting Ubuntu One with this statement, but I have seen data in the cloud go poof.  gone.  irretreivable.  not deleted by end user nor crackers.  major cloud vendor said too bad..
[00:04] <usr13> Safe_: Send us the resulting URL and we'll have a look.
[00:04] <Safe_> usr13: I'm right now in liveubuntu, checked with gparted and I'm certain they switched places, and since grub is trying to boot sda7, wouldn't that mess it up when they switch since it's now located at sdc7?
[00:04] <Safe_> usr13: Just hang on a minute.
[00:04] <stepnjump> d1g1ta1 I like the cloud because it keeps my computers synchronized BUT... I don't like that if the cloud decides to delete 'some' files out of the blue that I MIGHT not even notice it until years later and by that time, my backups old backups will be destroyed. I can't keep backups for years at a time!
[00:04] <usr13> Safe_: Oh, are you running a LiveCD?
[00:04] <stepnjump> Ah, maybe it's too new a technology. May as well give up on ubuntu one for a little while. Ok thanks for your help. Don't trust it.
[00:04] <usr13> Safe_: Or do you have an actual install on the hard drive?
[00:04] <Safe_> usr13: Yeah, since I can't even access grub.
[00:05] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Grub has no problem with drive numbering changing. Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the mbr, like /dev/sda, *not* a partitition like /dev/sda1.
[00:05] <Safe_> usr13: Both
[00:05] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Oh right, gotcha.
[00:05] <urgodfather> ramon, logitech only has drivers for windows
[00:05] <eyeothemastodon> i am buggered. I can't get my audigy 2 to work on 11.10 32bit. uninstalled pulse, installed gnome-alsamixer
[00:06] <usr13> Safe_: I'm not sure what you mean by "Both".
[00:06] <stepnjump> Ok, maybe someone knows of an app supported on Ubuntu that I could install that would allow me to create tickets for tech suppport and follow up on them?
[00:06] <usr13> Safe_: Are you booting a CD or the Hard Drive?
[00:06] <Jordan_U> !bugs | stepnjump
[00:07] <ramon> urgodfather: Sorry, I can't help you further than this.  It maybe possible to install windows drivers, but in my opinion, it would be tricky since they would have to load before the user logs on.
[00:07] <stepnjump> No it's just for my own use Jordan_U
[00:08] <usr13> Gotta go... ttyl
[00:08] <Safe_> usr13: I have recently installed ubuntu to sdc7 and am right now using a flash drive.
[00:08] <Jordan_U> Safe_: To take away variables while troubleshooting this problem, is it difficult for you to temporarily remove all hard drives but the one currently containing Ubuntu?
[00:09] <SVNDR> what is /usr/bin/dbus-deamon --system ??
[00:09] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Not difficult, just tedious. But I guess I should try it. :)
[00:11] <ramon> I may also be possible to dissable a HHD through the BIOS settings.
[00:11] <ramon> ...depending on your BIOS's features.
[00:11] <Ronnie> somehow an the process created by the upstart job is crashed. i had the option respawn on, but that did not do anything. now, stop <service> command wont work anymore (it hangs with a blank line)
[00:11] <Ronnie> if i do : status <service> i get the error: status: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[00:13] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Please highlight me when you've removed all other drives (I won't be watching the channel).
[00:13] <eyeothemastodon> does anybody know how i can get digital out working in 11.10 on a SB Audigy 2?
[00:13] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Will do. After that, should I do a boot-repair and purge-reinstall grub?
[00:14] <humamiaz> where i can get some help with wireless isues??
[00:14] <Jordan_U> Safe_: No. I'll walk you through making sure that grub is properly installed. I don't personally like boot-repair as I don't know what exactly it does.
[00:17] <stepnjump> Is there an official IRC channel for ubuntu one?
[00:18] <Jordan_U> stepnjump: #ubuntuone
[00:19] <Hilikus> does anyone know if it is possible to somehow interface vala from java?
[00:20] <stepnjump> thanks Jordan_U
[00:20] <Jordan_U> stepnjump: You're welcome.
[00:21] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Now it's just the main one installed.
[00:21] <r4y> I have a RCA th1814wm-a mp3 player which I recently got a replacement for at Walmart because it evenually wouldn't mount like it isn't right now.
[00:21] <Jordan_U> Safe_: OK, still getting the blinking cursor at boot?
[00:22] <Joakal> When setting up a server, how do I check and/or limit access to sudo for program users?
[00:22] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Yes.
[00:22] <r4y> I am wondering what mp3 players you all would recommend for Ubuntu?
[00:23] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Follow this guide, and when you're done please pastebin the full log of all of the commands: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[00:24] <Ubuntu> I have been using my iPod, it seems to work well.
[00:26] <r4y> I am searching online for prices TY
[00:28] <Safe_> Jordan_U: The warn: sector 32 is in use by flexnet is something to disregard?
[00:28] <shomon> hi, I've read this EFF article on full disk encryption - what options are available in ubuntu?
[00:29] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Yes.
[00:29] <urgodfather> ramon, are you still around?
[00:29] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Then I'm done.
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Safe_: OK. Please copy and paste all the commands/output from the terminal and pastebin them.
[00:30] <Safe_> Jordan_U: From when I did the entire guide?
[00:30] <stepnjump> Where do I go to suggest ideas to ubuntu?
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Yes.
[00:30] <Jordan_U> stepnjump: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[00:31] <Safe_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/ap2qJ6hY
[00:31] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Disregard when I stupidly tried /dev/sda7 instead of sda
[00:32] <Joakal> Anyone know how to restrict access to sudo? I don't understand this voodoo.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Safe_: OK, that should do it. If you aren't able to boot successfully now then something very odd is happening.
[00:32] <urgodfather> is it possible to use drivers from opensuse in natty?
[00:32] <budmang> http://pastebin.com/Au1MMNsW - I just cant get anything to come out my intel videocard... the ati/primary works fine..
[00:32] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Then will reboot, remove the flashdrive and try. Will be back regardless of success.
[00:33] <Jordan_U> urgodfather: No. What is your end goal?
[00:34] <urgodfather> jordan_u: trying to get my wireless keyboard/mouse combo to work in natty
[00:35] <urgodfather> jordan_u: apparently, my combo DOES work in suse
[00:36] <Jordan_U> urgodfather: Are they bluetooth devices communicating with your computer's internal bluetooth hardware, or do they have a little dongle which connects via USB?
[00:36] <urgodfather> jordan_u: IR w/ usb dongle
[00:37] <Jordan_U> urgodfather: What happens when you plug the dongle in and try to use the mouse / keyboard?
[00:38] <urgodfather> jordan_u: mouse works if ~ 6 in. from dongle... keyboard is useless. confirmed working in windows.
[00:38] <Jordan_U> urgodfather: And the mouse has a greater working range in Windows / SuSe?
[00:38] <tjiggi_fo> sounds like the dongle is the problem
[00:38] <urgodfather> jordan_u: both work in windows and mouse activity registers up to 10ft away
[00:39] <Jordan_U> urgodfather: Odd, I have no idea. Sorry.
[00:39] <urgodfather> jordan_u: not using suse, just found out on their site that it has been tested and working
[00:40] <Safe_> Jordan_U: No luck, same thing. I'm thinking about deleting everything except the ntfs partition /dev/sda1/ and reinstall
[00:40] <urgodfather> tjiggi_fo: suggestions?
[00:40] <tjiggi_fo> urgodfather, could you pastebin the result of lsusb please
[00:41] <urgodfather> no need to pastebin. hold on ill tell ya what it says
[00:41] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Don't do that, I don't think it will help and this is a very interesting problem. Do you mind burning a CD with Super GRUB2 Disk 1.99 beta1 to try some troubleshooting?
[00:41] <tjiggi_fo> urgodfather, we'll try to work out what chip the dongle is using
[00:41] <Safe_> Jordan_U: I don't have a cd rom on my computer.
[00:42] <urgodfather> ok
[00:42] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Do you see anything other than the blinking cursor if you hold shift during boot?
[00:42] <urgodfather> i did a lsusb the other day and it did say logitech keyboard + mouse
[00:43] <Safe_> Jordan_U: I have to reboot to find out. But I was thinking, under /dev/sda, sda2 doesn't exist, sda3 is extended, and sda7 is my ext4, isn't that a little to cluttered?
[00:43] <Jordan_U> Safe_: That shouldn't cause any problem with grub
[00:44] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Are you still in the LiveCD environment?
[00:44] <tjiggi_fo> urgodfather, we're looking for a chipset identifier that looks something like this - 1d6b:0001 - we're not interested in the vendor
[00:45] <urgodfather> tjiggi_fo: 046d:c505
[00:45] <Safe_> Jordan_U: I'm seeing now that sda1 has a warning (in gparted) about input/output error, is that something to care about?
[00:45] <tjiggi_fo> urgodfather, k, one sec while I search
[00:45] <Safe_> Jordan_U: And yes, it's the only way for me to be here.
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Yes. Can you pastebin the output of "dmesg"?
[00:46] <Safe_> Jordan_U: ... holy
[00:47] <Safe_> Jordan_U: It doesn't even fit in the terminal even though I have unlimited scrollback.
[00:47] <Jordan_U> Safe_: It's all of the kernel messages since boot (that would fit in the ring buffer), so it's going to be quite large.
[00:48] <Safe_> Jordan_U: I will paste whatever fits.
[00:49] <Safe_> Jordan_U:
[00:49] <Safe_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/zdTm7RT2
[00:49] <kszksz> if i open a port in iptables, is this change permanent or until reboot?
[00:49] <Safe_> I might have to scrap this disk. At the very least, reformat the whole thing.
[00:52] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" and "mount"? I'm trying to figure out what this "loop1" referenced in the EXT2-fs errors is.
[00:52] <tjiggi_fo> urgodfather, see this link - different problem but same chipset and changing the USB port solved the prob: http://askubuntu.com/questions/85304/boot-freeze-with-logitech-unifying-receiver
[00:53] <Safe_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/2Sdfpyxg
[00:55] <TA5K> Does anyone know which is the fastest way to compare two directories and copy the differences in one of the folders?
[00:55] <Safe_> Jordan_U: This is a brand new flash drive too so I haven't mucked around with it anything.
[00:56] <tjiggi_fo> urgodfather, and I don't see any talk about others having problems with that chip
[00:57] <Free213423> Hello, I'm on 11.10 -  I installed gnome-desktop-environment and choose. "Gnome classic (no effects)" as my WM when logging in. I cannot edit the panel - do you know where that setting is set?
[00:58] <urgodfather> tjiggi_fo: saw that already. tried before asking for help. do you think libusb or libhid could help?
[00:58] <tjiggi_fo> urgodfather, heh... if they don't you can always remove them ;)
[01:00] <urgodfather> tjiggi_fo: this is true, tried hidpoint with no luck
[01:00] <tjiggi_fo> urgodfather, sorry I can't help any more than that
[01:02] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Should I just try with some other disk I have?
[01:03] <advancedgarde> Hello, I've run into some trouble after attempting to intall xbmc to my ubuntu server (11.10). I'm getting "plymouth command failed" on boot and then nothing else. No login, nothing. The screen flickers a few times, looks like it might be trying to load up a gui. I can still SSH in and the webserver is still running.
[01:03] <madhattrr> Anyone got some Ubuntu One expertise?
[01:03] <raptor34> I AM A WINNER.
[01:03] <advancedgarde> I've tried to uninstall xbmc and purge the system but still no luck.
[01:04] <raptor34> hmm
[01:04] <urgodfather> tjiggi_fo: weird... tried booting without usb keyboard plugged in... worked for 5 secs as ubuntu continued to login then stopped
[01:04] <shomon> how would you suggest doing full disk encryption on ubuntu?
[01:06] <raptor34> i heard ubuntu is pretty depricated
[01:06] <raptor34> any idea why?
[01:06] <sholsapp> shomon: i would use the livecd
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Safe_: First try this "sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm && sudo losetup -r /dev/loop3 /dev/sda && sudo qemu /dev/loop3". It should bring up a qemu window. If all you see in the qemu window is the same blinking underscore then either you're hitting a grub bug that I've never seen before or something has been corrupted by a bad drive. If you see Ubuntu start booting in the Window (but still fail at an initramfs prompt) then the problem is specific to your ...
[01:06] <Jordan_U> ... BIOS.
[01:07] <y-chrmsm-adam> raptor34: try linux Mint, is the latest star out there
[01:07] <raptor34> ah
[01:07] <kszksz> something went wrong while setting shared folders in gadmin-proftpd, and it turned off. i cant turn it on again (i see its window opening but it instantly closes). tried uninstall + install proftpd and gamin-proftpd but it wont work again even from scratch, what to do?
[01:07] <raptor34> let me google it
[01:08] <raptor34> well anyways
[01:08] <raptor34> ubuntu is nice
[01:08] <raptor34> but still needs polishing
[01:08] <advancedgarde> I considered removing then reinstalling plymouth - but it looked like it might just make things worse ...
[01:08] <raptor34> its slow..
[01:08] <y-chrmsm-adam> raptor34: Linux Mint in other ways fixes Gnome3 messed up GUI. They are forking Gnome3 down to a more user friendly direction.
[01:08] <raptor34> i see
[01:08] <Jordan_U> !ot | raptor34 y-chrmsm-adam
[01:08] <raptor34> thanks
[01:09] <y-chrmsm-adam> I am using kubunte LiveUSB ATM, dunno what ur talking about.
[01:09] <abstrakt> how do I find the uuid of a given drive?
[01:09] <tjiggi_fo> urgodfather, look in Admin >> Logfile Viewer >> DMesg and Boot if you can find any hints of a driver conflict or somesuch (gotto go eat now - will be back later)
[01:09] <Jordan_U> abstrakt: sudo blkid
[01:10] <urgodfather> tjiggi_fo: how to on natty?
[01:10] <shomon> sholsapp, what do you mean the livecd? just boot from livecd each time, and encrypt just my data?
[01:10] <y-chrmsm-adam> what's that CLI utility to interact with SATA drives?? I remember being scsi_ something.
[01:10] <raptor34> anyways
[01:10] <raptor34> why do people need to buy ubuntu?
[01:10] <raptor34> i thought ubuntu was free for the people
[01:10] <kszksz> any help?
[01:11] <raptor34> i see websites selling cds of ubuntu...
[01:11] <tjiggi_fo> urgodfather, search in dashboard I suppose
[01:11] <y-chrmsm-adam> raptor34: simple answer, ubuntu is straying from is roots.
[01:11] <abstrakt> Jordan_U, thanks
[01:11] <raptor34> ..
[01:11] <Jordan_U> raptor34: Please keep questions related to Ubuntu support. Offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:11] <technologov_> anybody knows why 'Qyoto' was removed from Ubuntu ? It is a Qt bindings for C#/Mono.
[01:12] <Jordan_U> abstrakt: You're welcome.
[01:12] <advancedgarde> I think this is an issue with the UI. I think it's attempting to start some GUI, that's no longer present ...
[01:12] <y-chrmsm-adam> lol@Mono
[01:12] <perlstein> hey, how do i specify an alternate package download place on the command line for apt-get?
[01:12] <technologov_> (I can't find any official data about this on google and not rom Debian ppl)
[01:12] <y-chrmsm-adam> technologov_: cuz C#/Mono is anti-linux??
[01:13] <Jordan_U> y-chrmsm-adam: This is your last warning about offtopic comments.
[01:13] <technologov_> y-chrmsm-adam, mono itself was not removed.
[01:13] <technologov_> If it is anti-linux, it should be removed *completely*
[01:13] <advancedgarde> How can I check if the server is trying to launch a UI?
[01:14] <technologov_> y-chrmsm-adam, but now we have mono without Qt
[01:16] <Safe_> Jordan_U: I might have both a bad disk and a bad flash drive, since now update-initramfs locks up
[01:17] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Or rather, lzma does.
[01:17] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Did you run the commmands I asked you to run?
[01:17] <Safe_> Jordan_U: I tried but it locks up when setting up initramfs-tools.
[01:18] <Jordan_U> Safe_: Ahh, I didn't realize that was a part of installing qemu-kvm.
[01:18] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Give me a minute, I think it's moving forward.
[01:19] <advancedgarde> So, since I have a server, I shouldn't need plymouth right? so is it safe too uninstall it? it looks as if it's going to upset upstart
[01:19] <_cb> clear
[01:20] <Jordan_U> Safe_: In general, I recommend if you want an Ubuntu install on a USB which you can update, modify, and save files in that you simply run the installer and do a normal install to the USB as you would to an internal drive. There are many problems with "persistant" installs, the main one being that you can't truly upgrade the kernel.
[01:21] <_cb> I have set up a dns server and now want my desktop to use it. Changed my /network/interfaces to use static ip and /etc/resolv.conf to point to my dns but every time I reboot /etc/resolv.conf gets changed to point to isp dns
[01:21] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Okay, didn't know that.
[01:22] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Now where getting somewhere, it boots.
[01:22] <Jordan_U> Safe_: In qemu?
[01:22] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Correct.
[01:22] <_cb> First part of the message got cut. I have set up a dns server and now want my desktop to use it. Changed my /network/interfaces to use static ip and
[01:23] <Safe_> Jordan_U: When I try to boot it says 'error: hd0 out of disk.'
[01:23] <abstrakt> Jordan_U, where do I find the list of what options are contained in "defaults" for a given filesystem? neither wikipedia nor help.ubuntu.com seem to reference this
[01:23] <abstrakt> but I thought I saw this somewhere recently
[01:23] <Jordan_U> Safe_: OK, it will still fail to boot completely since I had you set things up read only for safety. That means that this drive will probably boot fine with any other computer.
[01:23] <Jordan_U> abstrakt: I don't know.
[01:24] <Safe_> Jordan_U: So BIOS problems you say. This specific hdd is IDE, maybe I have something set up wrong.
[01:24] <Jordan_U> Safe_: That out of disk is because the disk is read only (as qemu sees it).
[01:24] <Jordan_U> Safe_: I wouldn't expect the kernel to be able to access it if that were the case.
[01:25] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Are there any typical problems that this indicates?
[01:25] <abstrakt> ok
[01:26] <abstrakt> Jordan_U, do you know this: if I specify defaults can I also specify other options that would go against the defaults? (I think I found the defaults btw https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab)
[01:26] <abstrakt> i.e. since defaults includes suid, could I do defaults,nosuid
[01:27] <Jordan_U> Safe_: None that I know of. *Please* file a bug report about this though. Even if it turns out to be a bug in your BIOS, it's important that the grub team is aware of such broken hardware to be able to work around it or at least advise about it.
[01:27] <Free213423> aaargh. To change settings on my gnome-panel, all I needed to do was ALT+right click.
[01:28] <Safe_> Jordan_U: Right, I'll get on it. Well thanks for your help, you've been tremendously patient. :)
[01:29] <Jordan_U> Safe_: You're welcome :)
[01:34] <advancedgarde> Okay. So the problem started after I installed xbmc. I assumed that apt-get autoremove xbmc and apt-get purge xbmc would have undone the damage, but apparently not.
[01:35] <advancedgarde> I think my server is attempting to launch a gui (after the plymouth error message) but failing and this is the reason why I'm not getting my normal login screen.
[01:35] <advancedgarde> Again, I can access the server via ssh
[01:37] <abstrakt> how do I inspect a mount point to see what fs/driver is being used?
[01:37] <abstrakt> i.e. so I can use that same fs/driver in my /etc/fstab
[01:37] <advancedgarde> But I have no idea where to go from here. How I can check to see if the server is attempting to launch a gui at boot?
[01:40] <advancedgarde> Hello?
[01:40] <mebigfatguy> egads, i installed some software (apparently wrongly) and now i have massive problems. doing ls gave me permission errors, so i logged out and in again, but that failed because i could execute /bin/bash
[01:40] <mebigfatguy> i can come in as root fine
[01:40] <mebigfatguy> er couldn't
[01:41] <mebigfatguy> anything i should try before reinstalling?
[01:41] <Aliv3> hey i try to update and it says the inner daemon has crashes
[01:41] <y-chrmsm-adam> ¿dlǝɥ ǝuoǝɯos uɐɔ 'nʇunqn ɥʇıʍ ɯǝlqoɹd ɐ ǝʌɐɥ I
[01:41] <Aliv3> 1110 desktop 64bit
[01:42] <Aliv3> i think i have set channel to plus one
[01:42] <advancedgarde> Can anyone see my messages?
[01:42] <Aliv3> advancedgarde: yes
[01:42] <mebigfatguy> advancedgarde, yes
[01:42] <advancedgarde> ahh, ty.
[01:42] <madhattrr> need help with Ubuntu One on x64 Oneiric Ocelot
[01:42] <y-chrmsm-adam> advancedgarde: noʎ ǝǝs uɐɔ I sǝʎ
[01:43] <Aliv3> y-chrmsm-adam: tell us your problem and maybe
[01:43] <y-chrmsm-adam> can LiveUSB install NVIDIA drivers? currently it's using nouveau
[01:44] <mebigfatguy> mebigfatguy, well, i can come into shell as root, gdm doesn't load
[01:44] <Aliv3> so ubuntu software center and update manager are broke, what do I do?
[01:45] <Aliv3> someone told me usc has update but i cant update it with update manager
[01:46] <madhattrr> sudo apt-get update
[01:46] <kszksz> should i use x11vnc for remote administration if i have lxde on ubuntu?
[01:46] <Aliv3> uhg fine ill do that Again..
[01:47] <madhattrr> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:47] <Free213423> advancedgarde: Maybe try to install gdm - maybe that package would fix your loging issue?
[01:47] <madhattrr> Ubuntu One will not install to my x64 Oneiric Ocelot
[01:48] <advancedgarde> free213423: but I don't want a gui, I want to run xbmc in stand alone.
[01:49] <Free213423> advancedgarde: I see. You just want your text based login back
[01:49] <advancedgarde> free213423: and sorry, when I sid it's not loading the login screen, I meant the standard CLI login that come with the server as default.
[01:49] <advancedgarde> free213423: Yes.
[01:49] <Free213423> advancedgarde: And (ctrl,alt)+f1 will not work
[01:50] <advancedgarde> free213423: Okay ... yes that worked. Thank you for that - so why isn't it automatically dropping into the CLI login do you think?
[01:51] <advancedgarde> free213423: (can't belive that it was that simple btw <_<)
[01:51] <Free213423> advancedgarde: which xbmc package did you use? As far as I know (and I only tried to use openelec.tv so far and xbmc on ubunutu) - xbmc is a graphic front end and media play. So it needs X windows and most likely some WM
[01:52] <Aliv3> Task cannot be monitored or controlled || The connection to the daemon was lost. Most likely the background daemon crashed.
[01:52] <Aliv3> s/\|\|/\|
[01:52] <Free213423> advancedgarde: So when you installed XBMC it would have a dependency for the X-server and tried to install it (which you can choose  not to  install on the server version)
[01:52] <Aliv3> Details: It seems that the daemon died.
[01:53] <advancedgarde> free213423: I installed xbmc-standalone, which I belive did install x windows
[01:53] <advancedgarde> free213423: sorry, xbmc-live
[01:55] <advancedgarde> free213423: Anyway, thankyou very much for that ctrl+alt+f1 tip - at least I can move forward with this now.
[01:56] <Free213423> advancedgarde: I'm a bit confused at the moment, i"ll get back to you in a few minutes
[02:00] <codyc1515> Is there any particular reason that the apt-get packages are a bit older than the versions that are downloadable?
[02:00] <Free213423> advancedgarde: So you just installed XBMC live not a Ubuntu system?
[02:00] <urlin2u> codyc1515, as in what packages?
[02:00] <Free213423> advancedgarde: If you connected your computer via vga/hdmi or dvi, you might want to try openelec.tv
[02:01] <LiteApple> hello
[02:01] <codyc1515> php
[02:01] <codyc1515> apache
[02:01] <LiteApple> How is Ubuntu compatibility with the iPhone
[02:02] <urlin2u> codyc1515, not sure with those but ubuntu like many OS's os the tweaked versions of many packages.,
[02:02] <urlin2u> is*
[02:02] <codyc1515> ah i see
[02:02] <codyc1515> ok thanks
[02:02] <urlin2u> codyc1515, I use straight downloads of some like a daily FF, bleachbit and others so many run fine.
[02:03] <sotilude> can i make a search faster than by typing sudo find / filename | grep filename?
[02:04] <advancedgarde> free213423: I realise it might be confusing, I am running ubuntu server 11.10. The server is used as a backup for other computers in the house, as a webserver and also as a media center using xbmc. When upgrading to 11.10 I decided to do a clean install. I read that xbmc did not need a window manager to run, and that I could make the system lighter by instead installing xbmc-live.
[02:04] <haylo> no offense but why would you update a server version one ditro number?
[02:05] <haylo> distro*
[02:05] <LiteApple> Ubuntu have somalia language?
[02:06] <haylo> i think it does
[02:06] <advancedgarde> free213423: I think I'll revert to the old system of loading up a full gui and then automatically logging into an xbmc session. but I will have a look at openelec.tv
[02:07] <dr_willis> advancedgarde:  i was toying with openelec the other day. :) worked decently well.
[02:07] <urlin2u> advancedgarde, have you tried the #ubuntu-server channel/
[02:08] <advancedgarde> urlin2u: no, since I thought my problem was a half installed ui to begin with I thought it would be better to come here.
[02:08] <Free213423> dr_willis, advancedgarde it seems like the server is not hooked up to a tv
[02:08] <urlin2u> advancedgarde, cool. :D
[02:08] <advancedgarde> free213423: sorry, my server is hooked up to a TV via hdmi.
[02:11] <chromaticwt> how do I disable ldm?
[02:11] <chromaticwt> the new gdm that ubuntu uses.
[02:11] <xangua> chromaticwt: ubuntu uses lightdm now
[02:11] <chromaticwt> yes that one
[02:12] <chromaticwt> how do I disable it?
[02:12] <advancedgarde> free213423: openelec does look very nice, but since I want my media server to do a little more than just server media (eg websites and the like) I think I will stick with ubuntu.
[02:12] <Cross> Hi
[02:12] <Cross> Hello?
[02:12] <Free213423> advancedgarde: alright, so we are trying to fix a xbmc-live installation, which fails to open X (so you don't see any gui) Wihout X you will not be able to use XBMC on your TV
[02:14] <advancedgarde> free213423: xinit xbmc-standalone is launching xmbc without any problems (other than a lack of sound through the hdmi)
[02:17] <advancedgarde> free213423: when the computer boots, I see the normal loading text (fstab etc), then an error from plymouth, and then no progress. This is where I have to hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get to the cli login.
[02:18] <Chotaz> cunt
[02:19] <Free213423> advancedgarde: I see - mmh - in the old days it would have been something in /etc/init.d
[02:22] <const_antine> Where is a good (human-readable) documentation on how Ubuntu distro is put together?
[02:22] <bencc> does cinamon work with 2d on ubuntu?
[02:22] <bencc> or is it based on 3d?
[02:23] <const_antine> what the steps of boot process are, how logging is set up, what interfaces are available, etc.
[02:23] <const_antine> Maybe this is a very broad question. I'm still new to Linux, so something of a guide would be helpful
[02:33] <Free213423> const_antine, if you find something, let me know
[02:33] <const_antine> heh
[02:33] <const_antine> ok
[02:33] <Free213423> const_antine, but the way it is made, single developers make changes
[02:33] <haylo> i would study linux in general instead of trying to get an ubuntu manual
[02:34] <puff_> the ubuntu manual is downloadable in pdf format I got one
[02:34] <const_antine> really? i thought Ubuntu is developed by Canonical
[02:34] <puff_> !manual
[02:34] <haylo> it is but it is just a minux distro
[02:34] <haylo> linux*
[02:35] <const_antine> is it still open-source?
[02:35] <puff_> umm without the manul it is hard to RTFM!
[02:35] <haylo> yes it is
[02:35] <haylo> get a guide on using the linux command line
[02:36] <puff_> no thats incorrect the best way to learn is by hitting random keys since most unix commands seem to be random
[02:36] <haylo> no they really arent random
[02:36] <Free213423> const_antine, - Best way to learn what a single program does is to read the source code ;)
[02:37] <haylo> but you can type "man" to get manual pages
[02:37] <Free213423> const_antine, - then see what other program was called and read the source code
[02:37] <puff_> if I hold the back key I get a machine gun sound
[02:37] <Free213423> const_antine, - and in 50 years you probably finished reading it all and get started again with ubuntu 50.10
[02:37] <haylo> lol
[02:38] <const_antine> hah :(
[02:38] <puff_> I gotta admit I really like ubuntu in less than 4 hours I can go from a blank disk to having everything including lamp and named and sendmail running
[02:38] <const_antine> the secrets of hackers call my name, keeping me up at night
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> const_antine: its made by a company but yes, the OS is open source, if you read /etc/apt/sources.list   you can see the source repos as well as binary ones listed
[02:39] <haylo> what i finally did to learn linux was: gat .pdf tutorials that i could start wherever i left off and you tube tutorials
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> puff_: make an image of the installed OS partition and you can have it in fewer :)
[02:39] <haylo> the you tube tutorials on linux can really help a beginner alot
[02:40] <haylo> one of the glories of linux is ssh
[02:41] <puff_> I thought it was segfault
[02:41] <Free213423> const_antine, but really, having even a clear description (that is, exactly answering the questions I have - not more, not less ;) of the start up procedure. Of the hardware probing, etc with examples on how to change things or add something, would be perfect
[02:41] <const_antine> haylo i know how to string together svn status to grep to awk in a subshell for svn commit, for example
[02:42] <puff_> theres always stupid shell tricks
[02:42] <haylo> i really liked the tutorial at linuxcommands.org
[02:43] <haylo> but i decided that i like my info stored on my computer as text or .pdf. instead of having to go to a website all the time
[02:43] <const_antine> puff_ kids like tricks
[02:43] <hiexpo> how ya all   install aircrack-ng in ubuntu the repo one don't work
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> !info aircrack-ng
[02:43] <haylo> but i learned the most about linux by reading LFS linus from scratch manual
[02:43] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: enable universe repo
[02:44] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i know how just being goofy > gotta compile svn
[02:44] <const_antine> LFS linus?
[02:45] <const_antine> !google
[02:45] <const_antine> !google lfs linus
[02:45] <const_antine> `k
[02:45] <puff_> lol
[02:45] <puff_> here's a good one yes no
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: I see
[02:47] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, i am part of that project thoughtyouknew
[02:48] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, like bt & pentoo and bb    thought you knew i did that
[02:48]  * vreg waves hello.
[02:48] <puff_> heh I wrote Pnux
[02:49] <puff_> thought it would be cool to do my own OS
[02:49] <hiexpo> what distro
[02:49] <puff_> 1.1
[02:49] <vreg> i installed slackware to a usb stick but without a bootloader, can i do this (except for step 10): http://www.pendrivelinux.com/install-grub2-on-usb-from-ubuntu-linux/
[02:49] <hiexpo> of
[02:49] <puff_> 1 crashed
[02:49] <const_antine> haylo sounds amazing, i'll be sure to do LFS in my garage one of these nights
[02:49] <dejavou42> I just got some 100mg nic juice in today
[02:50] <dejavou42> :)
[02:50] <dejavou42> time to play
[02:50] <vreg> i just need to stick a bootloader on there i guess
[02:50] <hiexpo> what os puff
[02:50] <vreg> don't even need it to get into the mbr
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: wasn't aware, sorry, what re bt and bb?
[02:50] <vreg> i'll go into the grub2 prompt from there to boot slackware
[02:50] <dejavou42> oops wrong channel
[02:51] <puff_> I called it Pnux it was based on the linux kernel I just rewrote the whoel thing
[02:51] <maciej_> Hey guys, can someone help me with usb wifi card on ubuntu? in private message.
[02:51] <puff_> removed all the errors
[02:51] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, backtrack & blackbuntu
[02:52] <vreg> could someone verify that the list of steps is correct? except for step 10 of course
[02:52] <puff_> !wifi
[02:52] <maciej_> thanks puff.
[02:53] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, and my fav is aircrack-ng I actually have a book for it of the docs    http://www2.aircrack-ng.org/hiexpo/aircrack-ng_book_v1.pdf
[02:54] <puff_> there was one particular nugget that kept reoccuring involving input that did not check for length stringcmp and strncmpn made it vulnerable to buffer overflows so I fixed all those
[02:54] <urlin2u> vreg, boots your OS . http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-via-grub2-using-linux/
[02:55] <puff_> sort of bulletproof
[02:55] <puff_> ran like a watch
[02:56] <vreg> urlin2u: can i get the ubuntu livecd to install grub2 to the usb stick that has slackware installed?
[02:57] <vreg> urlin2u: grub2 to its own usb stick sounds nice, but it'd be ideal-ish if i could get it on the stick with slackware
[02:57] <puff_> by the way I recommend the clean install rather than the upgrade for oneiric
[02:57] <puff_> have not seen a single glitch since I did
[02:57] <vreg> i'd actually prefer not to write grub2 to mbr
[02:58] <vreg> as long as i can get a grub2 prompt (on the same stick as slackware), that's cool
[02:58] <vreg> i don't mind starting linux up manually
[02:59] <advancedgarde> Free213423: thankyou for your help, It's still not working but I'm going to call it a night for tonight and work on it some more in the morning.
[03:00] <Free213423> advancedgarde, no worries. still midday here lol
[03:00] <advancedgarde> Free213423: 03:00 here in the uk -_-
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> puff_: same here, I always clean install from minimal :)
[03:03] <the_goat> hello... question, if I may: regarding 11.10 and VMware workstation... I've done some googling and it seems there are, or at least were, some problems (esp. with vmware messing with rc.d) and I wonder if anyone has anymore recent knowledge they'd care to share
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> the_goat: I'd ask in #vmware
[03:05] <opticlove> i know this may not be a direct ubuntu question but i want to know which distro i should switch to if i have a netbook
[03:05] <the_goat> ActionParsnip: thank you sir/madam
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> opticlove: could use lubuntu, it uses fewer resources
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> the_goat: I'm a dude ;)
[03:07] <kszksz> im looking for init.d script to launch x11vnc, or some tip how to add it on startup. i've tried some things from google with no effect -.-
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: add it in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0     line, should be ok
[03:07] <urlin2u> vreg, I don't try loading grub unless I know the OS has grub, I use this appt it has room for many IS at one time, not worth the effort otherwise for me if possible.
[03:07] <urlin2u> IS=OS
[03:09] <opticlove> actionparsnip: what version of ubuntu does it run
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> opticlove: there are the same versions as Ubuntu, the metapackage is in the repos and there are ISOs from Lucid up to Precise
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> opticlove: its an official release supported here as of Oneiric
[03:10] <hiexpo> lol
[03:11] <opticlove> actionparsnhip: one more thing, do you know what that program was to make USB installers
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> opticlove: usb-creator or unetbootin
[03:11] <kszksz> ActionParsnip i added x11vnc -forever -usepw, rebooted and it didnt work :P
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: is the service shown in:  ps -ef | gre -i vnc
[03:12] <Kamiccolo> Ubuntu 13.04 - Satanic Seagull
[03:14] <vreg> urlin2u: i'm not sure i understand
[03:15] <urlin2u> vreg, I'm not sure your distro even has grub, trying to get it to boot with it like your doing for me is a waste of time when apps like the multiloader or even unetbootin will load it, not sure about unetbootin thouf=gh.
[03:16] <kszksz> ActionParsnip: after that i got "kszksz    1186  1129  0 04:13 pts/2    00:00:00 grep --color=auto -i vnc"
[03:16] <urlin2u> vreg, I don't know how in your situation as well.
[03:16] <vreg> grub(2) works with almost every linux distro though right?
[03:17] <vreg> and unetbootin is kind of... not the best thing to do long term
[03:18] <urlin2u> vreg, if setup correctly it has files in the os and the mbr not just the mbr, and you have a situation that has nothing to do with ubuntu, it's cd wont load it try ##linux
[03:19] <vreg> urlin2u: incorrect
[03:20] <urlin2u> vreg, excellent you can spell.
[03:22] <urlin2u> vreg, http://www.slackware.com/install/  slackware uses lilo.
[03:22] <vreg> yup it does
[03:23] <urlin2u> vreg, http://www.slackbook.org/html/booting.html this might help, not sure, but you will probably not get much help here, this is ubuntu support, you can keep trying if it suits you.
[03:25] <kszksz> what does "!" before a file mean in rc2.d?
[03:26] <kszksz> and in other rcx.d :P
[03:27] <puff_> heh earth3D in the repos
[03:35] <Porkminer> Can soeone help me with creating a usb boot drive?  I've gone through the setup and just get "Loading Operating System" then "Boot Error" and that's it, no other info.
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> Porkminer: did you MD5 test the ISO you used?
[03:36] <Porkminer> I'm using a Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H
[03:36] <Porkminer> yes
[03:36] <Porkminer> motherboard
[03:36] <Porkminer> MD5 was good.
[03:36] <Porkminer> And the stick boots on my laptop just fine.
[03:36] <Porkminer> Just not the desktop
[03:36] <FloodBot1> Porkminer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> Porkminer: what tool did you use to put the ISO on the USB?
[03:36] <Porkminer> startup disk creator
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> Porkminer: try unetbootin, may make different results
[03:37] <Porkminer> k, thanks
[03:38] <me-1> hi...from where i can download Kubuntu 11.10
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> Porkminer: might want to test the RAM too
[03:38] <ActionParsnip> me-1: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/oneiric/
[03:39] <ActionParsnip> me-1: remember to MD5 if you don't use torrents
[03:39] <grammy> Hi All, how do I adjust the timer that prompts for password? I use a strong password, but would rather type it less often if possible. My house is secure, so securing the computer from the inhabitants is not an issue.
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> grammy: use:  sudo -i
[03:40] <me-1> ActionParsnip,  thank you . i will MD5 . torrent is slowso i use direct install
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> grammy: use: exit     when you are done
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> me-1: really, single source is faster than multi-source. Highly dougbtful unless your ISP throttle torrents
[03:41] <opticlove> does ubuntu 11.10 support i386
[03:41] <kszksz> i added "x11vnc -forever -usepw &" in rc.local, when i run it manually it works, but at boot it does not start, any hints?
[03:41] <me-1> ActionParsnip,  ok i am going for torrent per your advice
[03:41] <tab1293> anyone know of an ipod application that can add songs via command line besides gnupod?
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> tab1293: add songs to what?
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> tab1293: you could use ifuse
[03:42] <tab1293> an ipod
[03:42] <ActionParsnip> tab1293: not sure if the ipod will see the copied files but ifuse makes the ipod appear as a generic USB drive
[03:42] <humamiaz> how i know the best drivers for my wireless adapter and fw
[03:43] <tab1293> well i need them to appear on the ipod
[03:43] <ActionParsnip> tab1293: I don't use apples rubbish so haven't actually tried it. I only know of it
[03:44] <grammy> Action....it prompted me for a password, but it appears to have done nothing, it just returned to the terminal prompt.
[03:45] <me-1> ActionParsnip,  there is alternate CD and desktop Cd which one I need . I need to install kubuntu on hard disk
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> grammy: type your password and hit enter, you will get no feedback
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> me-1: the alternate installs in text mode
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> me-1: they both give a desktop OS, I suggest you gran the desktop CD
[03:45] <ActionParsnip> *grab
[03:45] <me-1> ActionParsnip,  is desktop CD install-able..?
[03:46] <grammy> action:   ok, ty....but what exactly does the command do???
[03:46] <grammy> exit
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> me-1: yes, it installs a desktop OS in a graphical UI
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> grammy: interactive sudo
[03:49] <reapingwo> hey anyone know how to make the gecko-mediaplayer firefox plugin prevent the screen from dimming in full screen?
[03:49] <kszksz> i cant put x11vnc in rc.local to start, because it needs X (hello captain obvious). so there's no way to run it automatically?
[03:49] <danes> hello, is there anything similar to tortoise svn for ubuntu?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> grammy: you will not need to use sudo or type your password again til you type exit. obviously be VERY careful as you can break your system with bad commands
[03:49] <usr13> kszksz: What desktop manager do you use?
[03:50] <kszksz> usr13: lxde
[03:50] <hiexpo> rm rf
[03:50] <hiexpo> lol
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: if you make a .desktop file for it and put it in ~/.config/autostart   it will autorun
[03:51] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: why do you connect to vnc? what do you do on the remote system?
[03:51] <usr13> kszksz: Ok, can't remember on lxde .... just a sec.
[03:52] <kszksz> ActionParsnip: going to try that config/autostart now. i need vnc because that pc is in the basement
[03:52] <kszksz> :D
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: yes, but what activities do you do on it?
[03:53] <kszksz> ActionParsnip: point is that when it is in the basement it has only power connected to it, nothing else. when i want to change something i would need to grab it and connect to monitor keyboard etc etc .. :P
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: but what are you changing. 9 times in 10 there is a sleeker way to do things than VNC
[03:54] <kszksz> ActionParsnip: editing config files for example .rtorrent.rd
[03:54] <kszksz> :P
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: you can do that via ssh
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: using nano
[03:55] <usr13> kszksz:  ~.config/autostart/x11vnc-server    http://paste.ubuntu.com/794525/
[03:55] <usr13> kszksz: I think that will work       ^^^
[03:55] <grammy> action: ty for the info......I was hoping there was a timer associated with it, so that it wouldn't ask for 20 minutes or a half hour. I'm bringing a new system into service, so not having to enter password so often is useful::> again, ty.
[03:55] <kszksz> ActionParsnip ok ill google connect to ubuntu via ssh :P usr13 thx going to try it nao
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: install openssh-server   and you can ssh to port 22 from terminal with:  ssh name@servername
[03:57] <usr13> kszksz: ~config/autostart/x11vnc.desktop   http://paste.ubuntu.com/794526/
[03:57] <usr13> Or this one ?     ^^^^^
[03:57] <usr13> I really don't know which one works.
[03:57] <makara> !offtopic ?
[03:58] <makara> what's the more general discussion  channel?
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: is that all you VNC for?
[03:59] <urlin2u> makara, linux discussion or chat?
[04:00] <kszksz> ActionParsnip installed that openssh, tried and it works. thanks, i just lost 3 hours and u fixed that in 30 sec
[04:00] <kszksz> :D
[04:00] <kszksz> usr13 going to try it nao :P
[04:00] <Kimble> hey. If I run "sudo blkid", my sdcard shows up as "TYPE=ext2"; but if I run "sudo fdisk -l" it shows up as "System=W95 FAT32".  Why is this?
[04:00] <usr13> Kimble: Sure you're looking at the right one?
[04:01] <Kimble> usr13: yep. They're both /dev/sdc1
[04:01] <makara> urlin2u chat
[04:01] <usr13> Kimble: Let us see.  sudo blkid | pastebinit  ;  sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: dont worry, loads of people automatically go for vnc and its REALLY not necessary in a lot of cases
[04:01] <kszksz> thanks a lot
[04:01] <Kimble> usr13: sure. two secs...
[04:02] <usr13> Kimble: Send resulting URLs
[04:02] <makara> ah #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: if the system has an X server you can connect with:  ssh -X user@server    and launch gui apps and they will appear on your client screen, but be proccessed on the server, much like Citrix
[04:02] <urlin2u> makara, #ubuntu-offtopic is more chat like
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: also gives an SFTP server too :)
[04:03] <Kimble> usr13: fdisk command output: http://pastebin.com/AFhEVkVz
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: its why I ask what people do on remote systems as soon as VNC is mentioned too.
[04:04] <LinuxMercedes> I've got pam_mount set up to mount a fuse folder as my home directory automatically on login. However, pam_mount won't detect that the home directory has already been mounted if I log in a second time. Any idea where I should look to fix that?
[04:04] <Kimble> usr13: blkid: http://pastebin.com/YjfyuvC8
[04:05] <Kimble> interestingly, sdb1 shows a mis-match too - ExFAT on one, ext2 on the other.
[04:05] <usr13> Kimble: That's weird.  So which is it really?
[04:05] <Kimble> usr13: well, I ran sudo mkfs.ext2 on both, so they should both be ext2.
[04:06] <Kimble> These devices were originally as described by fdisk - maybe it's reading a cache?
[04:06] <usr13> Kimble: On both?
[04:07] <usr13> Kimble: What do y ou mean on both?
[04:07] <budmang> Hey Guys. I have an external(PCI) ati card(that works and comes up as the primary) and a onboard Intel GMA3100(works in windows xp fine).. ubuntu sees the intel card... but for some reason just never sends video too it..(even with my custom xorg.conf)... is there any way to tell xorg or ubuntu to try the intel as primary?
[04:07] <user01> any thoughts on resolving video playback (quicktime mov) issue: Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  Please file a bug at http://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=GStreamer.
[04:07] <Kimble> oh, i see. I ran mkfs.ext2 on sdb1 and sdc1 within the past hour. They were originally ExFAT and FAT32.
[04:07] <usr13> Kimble: I suppose what you mean is that it was previously fat32 and you just reformatted it to ext2  Right?
[04:08] <Kimble> usr13 : spot on.
[04:09] <c_smith> question: is it possible to customize the Ubuntu windows borders easily?
[04:09] <usr13> Kimble: Ok, well it is really ext2 but fdisk is just showing the drive designation as fat32.  You can fix that though.  Just do sudo fdisk /dev/sdc and change the first partition ID to Linux
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: do you mean the top bar or each window, with close, minimise & maximise?
[04:10] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, yes
[04:10] <usr13> Kimble: It's no big deal though, you don't have to change it, but you can if you want to.     t   to change it.
[04:10] <Kimble> usr13: ah, I see.  I'll change it I think, just for my sanity :)
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: do you use Unity session or something else?
[04:11] <c_smith> Unity, but am trying to switch to Gnome Shell.
[04:11] <usr13> Kimble:   t    1    83
[04:11] <kszksz> usr13: that .desktop worked automatically, but only after i logged in :p
[04:11] <usr13> Kimble: l    to list codes.
[04:11] <usr13> kszksz: Ok good....
[04:12] <c_smith> so, I guess my question is aimed at gnome-shell
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: yes, it runs as your user and such. You could configure autologin...
[04:12] <kszksz> idd, thanks :P
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: ahh now we can use that, you should have said.
[04:12] <c_smith> heh, I know. lapse of logic for me.
[04:13] <c_smith> is it possible to customize that in gnome shell?
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/five-pretty-awesome-gnome-shell-themes/   is an ok start (I don't use Gnome shell but know some links)
[04:13] <Kimble> usr13: sorry, i didn't understand your last two messages. It looks to me as though they came through incomplete?
[04:13] <c_smith> cool
[04:13] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, thank you very much
[04:14] <usr13> Kimble: Was just giving you the commands for fdisk    p  will print partition table.   l  will list codes    t  to change partition ID   83  is code for Linux
[04:14] <c_smith> also, does gnome shell work better with multiple monitors than Unity seems to?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: np :)
[04:15] <c_smith> the positioning of the better monitor puts the launcher on it and that's what I intend to use for videos and don't need it for apps
[04:15] <Kimble> usr13: hmm, my fdisk doesn't list -t as an option.
[04:15] <usr13> Kimble: So if you do sudo fdisk /dev/sdc   p to print existing table  t  to change it, when asked which one, type 1  when asked for code type 83  or l for list of options and then p again to look at it, w  to write the new partition table.
[04:15] <usr13> Kimble: m  for list of commands
[04:16] <usr13> Kimble: t   change a partition's system id
[04:16] <Kimble> usr13: ah, I see, it's an interactive command too. didn't know that. got it now. Thanks :)
[04:16] <pinal7441> hii
[04:17] <usr13> Kimble: Partition IDs are not all that important tho....
[04:18] <usr13> .... but nice to have it accurate
[04:20] <Kimble> usr13: I managed to change it using cfdisk.  Many thanks for the assistance. Karma ++ :)  Happy New Year to you!
[04:22] <oneliner> has anyone got updates on the realtek bug for wired ethernet?
[04:22] <oneliner> besides the backport makeshift that is?
[04:27] <humamiaz> Cannot open: No such file or directory
[04:27] <opticlove> i can't connect to the network after using maccchanger, any ideas?
[04:28] <acidfrost> opticlove, ifconfig whateverdeviceyouused up
[04:28] <humamiaz> cant install something hv this msg why
[04:28] <acidfrost> *sudo ifconfig eth0 up (replace eth0 with the interface you used)
[04:29] <Auk> Is there a file manager where I can simply go to this dialog box... Like "Save As" or "Open"... And within that dialog box, I can right click on files/directories and do things with it, such as RENAME/Delete/Etc      Like WIndows?
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Auk: nautilus does all that stuff
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> Auk: just right click a file, it's all there
[04:30] <Auk> ActionParsnip: But it has to be in a dialog box for where it asks you "Where to save file to".
[04:30] <Auk> Or Open, dialog boxes similar to that.
[04:31] <urlin2u> Auk, if you hit save it will bring up the save to.
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> Auk: right click a file in a file manager then be able to click 'save file to..'  do you mean 'copy to..' and 'move to..'?
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> Auk: what would the dialogue boxes that open contain?
[04:33] <Auk> urlin2u: Yea but it has to look like this: http://www.domorethanmanage.com/articles/2009/01/22/The_Save_As_window_appears.JPG        <---------- Right click on  "Shared Documents" and Rename it. In that window.
[04:33] <Auk> Well, not exactly like that, but just to support the feature.
[04:33] <Auk> Mines only "highlights/selects" it.
[04:34] <urlin2u> Auk, ar you trying to upload to the net
[04:35] <SyrinxPriest> Would anyone be able to direct me to the best place to make a user interface suggestion for Unity?  Would I file a bug on Launchpad for something like that?
[04:35] <Auk> urlin2u: No. I just want to right click inside that dialog window and still be able to rename file/folders.
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> Auk: http://www.snapbackup.org/graphics/ubuntu-save-jar.png   what's your point? All apps that hive file -> save as   will show a dialogue like that...
[04:35] <corvus_> Got a question regarding NVidia drivers in Xubuntu.
[04:36] <Auk> ActionParsnip: Rightclick on "snapbackup.jar".
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Auk: ahhhh so when you click save as in an application and files are listed, to be able to rename the files in THAT windo
[04:36] <Auk> That's the feature I'm looking for.
[04:36] <Auk> Exactly.
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> Auk: just worded clearer, the file browser is a little different to the save as window
[04:36] <corvus_> My video card is an old MX400. I'm using an older Dell 17" CRT monitor. When I go the NVidia configuration tab, I get this:
[04:36] <corvus_> Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page:
[04:36] <corvus_> Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0.
[04:37] <corvus_> Any ideas?
[04:37] <Auk> I wish it supports that. Then I can like happy dance and replace nautilus/pcmanFM.
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> Auk: you could suggest it on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com   you can always fire up a real file browser and renam files and they will update in the save as dialogue
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> corvus_: I believe you will be using the open source nouveau driver
[04:38] <corvus_> AP, why is that?
[04:39] <corvus_> My card is apparently supported under the proprietary driver.
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> corvus_: support by nvidia, let me check
[04:39] <corvus_> Ok, thanks.
[04:39] <Auk> It doesn't haev to be in just save-as.       Open/ and any other dialog box that displays paths/folders/files.
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> corvus_: try installing nvidia-96 package after removing the driver you installed, or did you install nvidia-96?
[04:40] <corvus_> 96 is installed already, yes.
[04:40] <Auk> ActionParsnip: A real file browser? o_O
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> Auk: yes, open nautilus or pcmanfm and change the file(s)
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Auk: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/21686/
[04:42] <mgeorge> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVXKKaWJTls
[04:42] <corvus_> System works fine, otherwise. I can change resolution in display settings...but my choices are rather limited.
[04:42] <mgeorge> totally freakin priceless
[04:43] <mgeorge> i laughed my ass off when i saw that one
[04:43] <FloodBot1> mgeorge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> mgeorge: how is that ubuntu related?
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> mgeorge: or support related?
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> mgeorge: please, next time, don't paste garbage like that in here. This is a support channel
[04:46] <oneliner> has anyone had any luck with the ethernet realtek wired driver bug? besides using the backport?
[04:46] <Kimble> Hi. What option do I append to an entry in fstab to make a usb drive rw to all users?
[04:48] <zruty> When will there be a new LTS version?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> Kimble: add the option:  user,guid=1000,rw
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> zruty: this april
[04:48] <zruty> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> zruty: think about the version numbers of past LTS releases ;)
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> zruty: 8.04, 10.04 ....
[04:48] <zruty> ActionParsnip: I ionly started with LTS 18 months ago or so
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> zruty: I see, well now you see the pattern. I assume you know how the version numbers are formed too
[04:49] <zruty> Yes, that I know... Thanks!
[04:49] <Kimble> ActionParsnip: thanks. just rebooted the machine now...
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> Kimble: usually udev makes it ok for all
[04:51] <Kimble> brb
[04:51] <Auk> Thanks ActionParsnip. Gee, it's been years, looks like it'll never be implemented.
[04:51] <c_smith> heh, wonder who here was using Linux on the Windows Refund Day? I certainly wasn't,
[04:53] <c_smith> oops, wrong channel..... >.<
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> Auk: stranger things have happened at sea
[04:53] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, thanks again for the tip.
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: np :)
[04:54] <Kimble> ActionParsnip: hmm, my mount procedure had issues on reboot. which log can I look in for more info?  dmesg and syslog don't show it.
[04:55] <ActionParsnip> Kimble: could always use:  sudo mount /mount/point    it is in fstab so will be recognised
[04:58] <vikki> hey guys i am stuck
[04:58] <vikki> i got a new laptop for christmas and put ubuntu on it
[04:58] <vikki> it worked great for a few days then i went away to a cabin for the new year
[04:59] <charliehorse55> HELP! my ubuntu installation won't boot... I didn't even change anything on my Ubuntu install
[04:59] <vikki> there was no wireless there so i turned off wireless by pressing Fn+F3
[04:59] <vikki> and now i am back home and i dont know how to turn it back on
[04:59] <txomon> hi, is here anyone that really knows about vino? the VNC server included with gnome?
[04:59] <charliehorse55> it fails at grub, with a blinking cursor
[05:00] <y-chrmsm-adam> is there ext1??
[05:00] <y-chrmsm-adam> I want to use ext1
[05:00] <txomon> charliehorse55, does grub display?
[05:01] <charliehorse55> txomon: yes, I can even edit the boot options, just when it tries to boot it hangs at the blinking cursor
[05:01] <vikki_> hey guys i am stuck
[05:01] <vikki_> i got a new laptop for christmas and put ubuntu on it
[05:01] <txomon> charliehorse55, use recovery boot
[05:01] <txomon> charliehorse55, normally the 2nd option
[05:02] <txomon> charliehorse55, recovery mode*
[05:02] <vikki_> I plugged in an old USB wireless adaptor but it now says "wireless is disabled by hardware switch" under both wireless interfaces
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> y-chrmsm-adam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_file_system
[05:02] <charliehorse55> txomon: it doesnt work, same error
[05:02] <vikki_> where's the hardware switch?
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> vikki_: try running:  sudo rfkill unblock all
[05:03] <txomon> charliehorse55, but, what do you do in recovery mode?
[05:03] <chachan> vikki_: check your laptop sides
[05:03] <vikki_> ActionParsnip: I will do that straight right now.  it is in a different room
[05:03] <vikki_> I disabled wireless for a week while I was away using Fn+F3
[05:03] <vikki_> but Fn+F3 won't turn it back on.  neither will rebooting.
[05:04] <charliehorse55> txomon: when I select recovery mode it also just fails at a blinking cursor
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> y-chrmsm-adam: why such an old file system, ext2 is pretty decent
[05:04] <txomon> charliehorse55, directly?
[05:05] <txomon> any output?
[05:05] <charliehorse55> txomon: I see the boot list screen, I select the Recovery mode of my kernel, then it hangs at a blinking cursor. I haven't even changed anything on the Linux install... :(
[05:06] <txomon> charliehorse55, sure you changed something
[05:06] <chachan> vikki_: figure out a way (physically) to activate it again
[05:06] <txomon> charliehorse55, have you moved partitions, etc?
[05:06] <atruno> what alterrnatives are there to cheese for video recording.  my video device lights up but i don't see my reflection and i don't wan't to waste a video.  something easy to use with a gui ?
[05:06] <charliehorse55> txomon: I literally didn't have linux booted, and didnt modify the drives they are installed on
[05:06] <atruno> using 11.10 ubuntu
[05:07] <txomon> charliehorse55, do you have dual boot installed?
[05:07] <txomon> windows
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> atruno: using cheese for video recording doesnt waste video
[05:07] <charliehorse55> txomon: I did change some EFI settings, but I've already tried loading optimized defaults and it didn't do anything.
[05:07] <charliehorse55> txomon: triple boot, windows 7 and osx
[05:07] <atruno> ActionParsnip, i can't see my face when i select video
[05:07] <charliehorse55> txomon: but all on seperate drvies, I have 5 HDs in my computer
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> atruno: then the hardware isn't recognised presently
[05:08] <atruno> thank you ActionParsnip
[05:08] <atruno> i've actually had video's turn up two days later after reboots
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> atruno: run:  lsusb   use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[05:08] <atruno> thanks
[05:08] <txomon> charliehorse55, EFI can be related, and it makes sense, as kernel might not be prepared for that, or even, the configuration
[05:09] <txomon> or not compilled to support that
[05:09] <charliehorse55> txomon: but I already tried loading optimized defaults, and tried loading a known good config. I've also installed more RAM since the last linux boot, but again I've tried taking it back out and no change
[05:10] <txomon> there is something that has been changed and is not getting back...
[05:10] <txomon> charliehorse55, have you partitioned /home and / separately=
[05:10] <txomon> ?
[05:11] <charliehorse55> txomon: yes, I have / on an SSD, while /home is on a 1TB platter disk style drive
[05:11] <xgt001> hello i am in Ubuntu LTS, i am unable to connect to adsl bridge of my broadband :(
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> charliehorse55: I hope you put /var on the platter based drive
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> xgt001: do you get an IP var dhcp?
[05:12] <txomon> charliehorse55, I suggest you to reinstall ubuntu, so that it can fix the kernel configuration. You can also try by reinstalling grub, and hoping it does fix it
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> *via
[05:12] <charliehorse55> here is a good question - what does the flashing cursor at grub screen mean?
[05:12] <txomon> ActionParsnip, why /var ?
[05:12] <txomon> charliehorse55, can be two things, if no output displayed
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> txomon: its temporary guff, it changes a fair bit so putting it on a devcie without limited write cycles is good
[05:13] <txomon> kernel not loaded correctly
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> txomon: also moving browser cache to platter based storage (or even tempfs) can prolong life (tempfs will make the browser faster)
[05:13] <txomon> or grub not doing things correctly
[05:14] <jtannenbaum> ok so someone else has an icecast server running and I just want to connect to it and play music (I have the password let's assume)
[05:14] <jtannenbaum> what software would I need for that
[05:14] <txomon> ActionParsnip, just to be sure, platter -> normal magnetic disk?
[05:14] <anonymous229> hey
[05:14] <jtannenbaum> I don't want to set up a server (, Google), I want to connect to an existing one
[05:15] <xgt001> ActionParsnip: no, its fetched automatically i guess all i have is service name, username and pass
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> txomon: yes, conventional drives use disk platters
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> xgt001: so it's adsl over ethernet
[05:15] <txomon> charliehorse55, I usually have a script done with all the packages I get installed etc so that for those cases, i can get working just right after installing
[05:15] <xgt001> ActionParsnip: yes, it is , i tried nm-applet, but doesnt work
[05:16] <txomon> charliehorse55, if you have time, try to reinstall grub
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> xgt001: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[05:16] <txomon> charliehorse55, if you don't, install ubuntu once more
[05:16] <txomon> charliehorse55, btw, have you tried to use another kernel?
[05:16] <charliehorse55> txomon: my mods to ubuntu would mean I would spend too much time re-installing them
[05:17] <txomon> hopefully its a kernel fallback
[05:18] <charliehorse55> txomon: perhaps an update got half-wary installed leaving a grub config pointing to a non-existant kernel file.. i shall try this
[05:18] <txomon> ActionParsnip, do you know something about vino (the vnc server included with gnome) and its dependencies ?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> txomon: zero, I don't use vnc. I find it vulgar
[05:19] <charliehorse55> txomon: no luck.... none of my kernels work. Also, I turned off quiet and splash and now I just see "Booting a command list"
[05:19] <txomon> ActionParsnip, the idea is that it is included with gnome
[05:20] <txomon> charliehorse55, try asking in #kernel
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> txomon: using vlc is realy OTT in most case. There are web UIs and suchlike which are sleeker and more secure
[05:20] <txomon> they will know more on how to put more debugging symbols
[05:21] <txomon> ActionParsnip, they idea is to get it by ssh tunnel
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> txomon: there is usually a way to just not use it.
[05:21] <txomon> I want to teach my gf to use commands that will work in any ubuntu system, without sudo, but of course, with an account
[05:22] <charliehorse55> txomon: booting a command list is a part of grub, the kernel still hasn't loaded at that point i just looked it up
[05:22] <dimas_> does anyone know how can i take the most of my RAM which is only 1G and i keep having aplication to crash...i been reading some but i dont really know where to start
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> txomon: if you want to educate in a sandboxed OS, use a virtualbox :)
[05:22] <Kimble> ActionParsnip: Sorry I disappeared, had to solve an internet issue.
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: have you tested RAM health using memtest in grub?
[05:23] <txomon> charliehorse55, so try #grub
[05:23] <dimas_> ActionParsnip, no, would you tell me what is that?
[05:23] <txomon> ActionParsnip, ok, and about installation? I am trying to get my system installed in a very minimal way
[05:24] <txomon> I installed gnome-core gnome-shell, and vino is not starting correctly
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: hold shift at boot, select memtest. Red is bad. Run it a little while then hit ESC to exit and reboot to desktop
[05:24] <txomon> though it is a dependency of gnome-core
[05:24] <txomon> ActionParsnip, apt-cache rdepends vino
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> txomon: minimal install exists, it installs bootloader, kernel and driver modules and app install commands like apt-get and so on, no x no apps no x server
[05:25] <txomon> ActionParsnip, I did so, I installed also gdm and lightdm, configured an automatic login, so that it started a gnome-session
[05:25] <txomon> I also started a gnome-session by ssh
[05:25] <dimas_> ActionParsnip, but what is the purpuse of that?...i just see in the sistem monitos that there is lots of stuff in speeping mode using the ram
[05:26] <txomon> but there is no way to get vino started
[05:26] <dimas_> monitor sleeping*
[05:26] <txomon> crashes all the time
[05:26] <Kimble> Could someone remind me the option to append in fstab to make a mounted fs r/w for all users?
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: you are getting crashes, if your ram is unhealthy then it will explain the crashes as the apps run in ram
[05:27] <dimas_> ActionParsnip, is a new ram card
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: it can be DOA
[05:28] <dimas_> ActionParsnip, the main problem is when i use blender
[05:28] <dimas_> that is when i crash
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: if you make a new user and use the app, does it crash too?
[05:30] <dimas_> ActionParsnip, how much ram does ubuntu platform needs to run?...just cant understand it
[05:30] <dimas_> is so much from unity runnin in the background sleeping
[05:32] <txomon> ActionParsnip, when is it xdg supposed to run?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: recommended is 512mb afaik
[05:33] <dimas_> ActionParsnip, is that what it need for the platform itself?
[05:33] <abbadd0n1> where do newbies go???
[05:34] <Resistance> abbadd0n1:  for help, here is a good place.
[05:34] <txomon> !start
[05:34] <Resistance> abbadd0n1:  perhaps #ubuntu-beginners too, but this channel is a good place to start
[05:35] <abbadd0n1> okay
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: that as well as a few apps, should run well
[05:36] <frank__> hi
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: I've ran a full ubuntu with the usual desktop apps with no problem on 1Gb
[05:36] <dimas_> ActionParsnip, thanks, let me read a little more about blender then and see if there is something i should know
[05:37] <Chipzzz> isn't blender quite memory-intensive?
[05:38] <dimas_> Chipzzz, it says that require at least 512 of ram
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> dimas_: ram is cheap, you could double up for the price of a few packs of smokes
[05:38] <dimas_> lol
[05:39] <Chipzzz> might not be such a bad idea
[05:40] <dimas_> ActionParsnip, i guess that is what i should do
[05:40] <dimas_> thanks guys
[05:40] <Chipzzz> :)
[05:42] <kevinyoung> hi all how to get a ssh code  for free
[05:42] <kevinyoung> ?
[05:42] <kevinyoung> plz
[05:43] <venkatmangudi> ??? ssh code?
[05:43] <kevinyoung> yep
[05:43] <Chipzzz> i don't know what you mean by it either
[05:43] <venkatmangudi> not really sure I understand you
[05:43] <venkatmangudi> what are you trying to do?
[05:43] <venkatmangudi> you mean ssl?
[05:43] <kevinyoung> ssh
[05:44] <Chipzzz> ssh takes a regular login
[05:44] <kevinyoung> Chipzzz: oh
[05:44] <venkatmangudi> kevinyoung: am not able to understand your problem
[05:45] <Chipzzz> same user name/password you use to log into the desktop
[05:45] <chreekat> Is there an "ubuntu" way to map R_Alt to Mod2, or shold I do it manually with xmodmap?
[05:45] <kevinyoung> venkatmangudi: thanks too
[05:45] <chreekat> Nothing looks promising in the keyboard layout panel
[05:46] <Untitled_only> sup room?
[05:46] <Chipzzz> sup?
[05:46] <robbbie> sup?
[05:47] <Untitled_only> the sky i guess, how has traffic been 2day?
[05:48] <Untitled_only> been busy with classes haven't had the time to logon...-_-
[05:48] <Auk> kevinyoung: DO you want to use "SSH"?
[05:49] <Chipzzz> *shrugs* I've been logged in a while but just started paying attention so don't really know
[05:49] <Untitled_only> kool
[05:49] <Chipzzz> Auk: i think he's got it
[05:49] <Untitled_only> well were here to help.
[05:50] <Chipzzz> :)
[05:58] <frank__> hi, cant find my partition dev\sda3 through the home menu in 11.1....any suggestions?
[06:00] <frank__> if anyone could help it would be appreciated....been tearing hair out for a few hours now
[06:00] <frank__> ve2ebp?
[06:00] <robbbie> frank__: huh? what are you trying to do
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> frank__: try:  sudo blkid; sudo fdisk -l; mount      may show you what is going on
[06:01] <Chipzzz> frank__: its /dev/sda3
[06:01] <Chipzzz> (forward slashes in linux)
[06:02] <frank__> i've just installed and have created a 33gb partition for the basics and a 177gb partition for my music/video files. the partition shows up in gparted and disk editor as /sda3 but i can't find it to copy my files to...? sorry if that's too vague, just installed a few hrs ago!thx
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: its just 'slash' the other way is a switch
[06:03] <frank__> \
[06:03] <wajeemba> hello, I'm wondering what the difference between ubuntu-server and regular ubuntu is. Does it have a smaller memory footprint? I'm planning on hosting a minecraft server, so feel free to throw other builds out as options too.
[06:04] <Chipzzz> ActionParsnip: "escape", actually, but I notice he used dev\sda3 instead of /dev/sda3, so I thought he might be a recent Windows convert
[06:04] <dr_willis> !mount | frank__
[06:05] <frank__> is already mounted but i cant find it through home or filesystem....?
[06:05] <frank__> well gparted saya its mounted
[06:05] <dr_willis> frank__:  whats its mountpoint
[06:05] <Chipzzz> frank__: gparted should tell you here it's mounted
[06:05] <frank__> usr
[06:05] <Chipzzz> (where)
[06:06] <venkatmangudi> frank__: mounting is like putting a CD into the drive.... it makes it usable for you
[06:06] <dr_willis> its not /usr   im betting...
[06:06] <venkatmangudi> so when a drive is added, you have to mount it
[06:06] <dr_willis> where does mount say uts mounted to...
[06:07] <dr_willis>  /media/somthing  is commonly used
[06:07] <nomike> hi
[06:07] <venkatmangudi> frank__: what is the output of the command df -k
[06:07] <frank__> is /usr, can send u a disk utility screenshot if ya like :)
[06:07] <nomike> Is it possible to somehow have Ubuntu 11.10 without Unity but with the old Gnome2 desktop?
[06:08] <frank__> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[06:08] <frank__> /dev/sda1             33737488  22005352  10018320  69% /
[06:08] <frank__> udev                    953720         4    953716   1% /dev
[06:08] <frank__> tmpfs                   384292       872    383420   1% /run
[06:08] <frank__> none                      5120         0      5120   0% /run/lock
[06:08] <FloodBot1> frank__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:08] <frank__> none                    960728       128    960600   1% /run/shm
[06:08] <dr_willis> you do not mount data partions to the system dir  /usr/
[06:08] <Kimble> Hi. I'm still having an issue trying to mount USB drives with r/w access to all users. I'm using FSTAB.  Whenever I add "gid=xx" (where xx has been either 500 or 1000), I get a fatal error and the device won't mount. Suggestions?
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: \ is also called a 'slosh' according to wikipedia. interesting stuff
[06:08] <dr_willis> a t least nit on purpose...
[06:08] <venkatmangudi> gparted should also tell you if /sda3 is mounted
[06:09] <frank__> gparted says /sda is mounted to usr
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> frank__: sure it doesn't have a number on the end?
[06:09] <Chipzzz> ActionParsnip: that's interesting... I was unaware... it is interesting stuff, though
[06:10] <frank__> no number...can copy and paste again if u like :)
[06:11] <Chipzzz> frank__: I gather you're running from a live disk?
[06:11] <Chipzzz> (live CD)
[06:12] <frank__> nope, it's installed, just ubuntu (it isn't a dual boot, he's got the whole hd to himself)
[06:13] <acidfrost> I just found out why ircii-pana isn't in the repos anymore so much for Ubuntu's free choice policies, removed it because of a security vulnerability.
[06:13] <nomike> And I don't want this "classic" mode which is Gnome 3 but tries to fake the old desktop.
[06:13] <acidfrost> nomike, yeah your not the only one who likes gnome 2 over 3
[06:13] <acidfrost> :P
[06:13] <netkiller> http://netkiller.github.com/
[06:13] <charliehorse55> toxomon: reinstalled grub, works now :D still no idea what broke it
[06:13] <pnorman> Hmm. According to what I've read, my sata card is supported with the mvsas kernel module driver. How would I check if this is enabled, and if needed, how would I enable it?
[06:14] <acidfrost> anyhow if i want to shoot myself in the foot let me i  will always prefer ircii-pana over any other alternatives
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: it hasn't been updated since 2003 from what I'm finding. It's a dead project
[06:15] <Kimble> Can anyone suggest the option needed to make FSTAB mount a USB drive as read/write for all users?
[06:15] <acidfrost> ActionParsnip, still no reason to remove it from the repos
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: they do, its not maintained any more, its dead
[06:15] <frank__> if i'm not being clear feel free to ask more...
[06:15] <dr_willis> Kimble: what filesystem
[06:15] <Kimble> ext2
[06:15] <guest-kStKKV> help please
[06:16] <nomike> acidfrost: Well it's not me (I like unity on my small screen netbook as it conserves space) but i'm sysadmin of 3 workstation and our users are complaining about the lost gnome 2 desktop...
[06:16] <dr_willis> Kimble: you dont overide the fs permissions . yiu use chiwn or chmod in your case
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: the bugs found can not be fixed and as old libs are unused, the app simply will not work. Your tout of "being removed due to vulnerabilities" is not true
[06:17] <Kimble> dr_willis: i'm afraid i'm not sure what that means. Sorry :)
[06:17] <acidfrost> ActionParsnip, oh really now ? hmm kinda funny how it still works just fine on if obtained from the arch repos
[06:17] <dr_willis> !permissions | Kimble
[06:17] <guest-kStKKV> i change my password from terminal shift + 123456 and it shows update succesfully but when i start ubuntu and put the password it shows incorrect, help please
[06:17] <chromaticwt> how do I disable lightdm?
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: arch isn't supoprted here, neither is mixing debs from other distributions
[06:18] <Kimble> dr_willis: no, i know what permissions are and how to modify them. I'm just not sure what you're advising me to do.
[06:18] <dr_willis> Kimble:  use chmod and chown. or groups as needed
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: if you like it so much, you could start maintaining it :)
[06:19] <acidfrost> ActionParsnip, what i'm stating is that you said it doesn't work anymore which isn't true and i never said i got used the package from arch to use it i was merely pointing out that it was still usuable
[06:19] <dr_willis> Kimble:  yiu dont just overide permissions with a mount option
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> chromaticwt: you can add the boot option:  text    and you will boot to text mode only, you staill have the option to startx and so forth
[06:19] <acidfrost> *insert /
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: it eventually won't, the libs will change and you will need to do a lot of work to get it working
[06:20] <Chipzzz> frank__: dunno, I don't see a 177 Gb partition or a 33 Gb one
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: its not maintained upstream by the devs, so it is removed, same with gnome desktop moving to gnome3, gnome2 is no longer developed by the gnome team so Ubuntu has moved too
[06:20] <frank__> so how would i normally view this partition starting from the home folder??
[06:20] <Kimble> dr_willis: ah, you mean i just manually change the permissions on the root of the mounted device. gotcha. Thanks.
[06:20] <acidfrost> ActionParsnip, yeah another reason i'll never ever upgrade past 10.10 again
[06:21] <guest-kStKKV> ActionParsnip,  when i login with my username and password it says incorrect password, help please
[06:21] <dr_willis> frank__:  /path/to/whever
[06:21] <StepNjump_> well this is weird... gksudo gedit filename no longer works! gedit aloone works, gksudo alone works but not both together! The only change was made to my system is that I changed my hostname a few hours ago... mmmmm
[06:21] <Protheus> #join ubuntu-br
[06:21] <acidfrost> StepNjump_, it should work normally
[06:21] <Chipzzz> frank__: you'd have to mount it first but you'd have to know the mount point (/dev/sdx, where x=a-z)
[06:21] <acidfrost> if you need root priveleges just sudo gedit
[06:21] <dr_willis> !hostname | StepNjump_
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: maverick will eventually be EOL, so no updates. Why not use XFCE with your normal Gnome apps and you can use the latest release :)
[06:22] <Protheus> #join
[06:22] <Chipzzz> frank__: sorry... you'd have to know the device
[06:22] <acidfrost> ActionParsnip, because XFCE  can't replace gnome 2
[06:22] <acidfrost> ActionParsnip, i don't really care about updates
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> guest-kStKKV: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root then run:  passwd   foo (change foo for your username) set your pasword then run: reboot
[06:22] <pnorman> Don't do sudo gedit, it can screw up a fair aount
[06:23] <pnorman> !gksudo
[06:23] <StepNjump_> Yep, my guess was probably the right one... here is what I get now _dr_willis sudo gedit irc.conf
[06:23] <StepNjump_> sudo: unable to resolve host CENNAT-2
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: you will if a huge security hole gets found in a version of one of the apps / packages you use
[06:23] <acidfrost> pnorman, what was that ?
[06:23] <pnorman> s/aount/amount
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: it will work, you'll just have no updates. XFCE looks and smells like Gnome2
[06:23] <Kimble> dr_willis: thanks for the assist. all sorted now. Night all :)
[06:24] <guest-kStKKV> ActionParsnip,  thanx
[06:24] <acidfrost> ActionParsnip, hah i don't care about security holes either ill just reinstall everytime someone roots my box simple enough fix
[06:25] <dr_willis> one of the lamest things ive heard lately....
[06:25] <dr_willis> back to support....
[06:25] <Chipzzz> rofl
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: your call dude, you also on't be supported in this channel if you have EOL release and you'll simply be told to upgrade
[06:26] <StepNjump_> yep _dr_willis, was probably that.. I will try to reboot. hosts was not changed. thanks
[06:26] <acidfrost> ActionParsnip, well here lately i've not needed any support i've rather been giving it out
[06:26]  * acidfrost == kiten
[06:27] <frank__> ljl@ubuntu/bot/floodbot
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> acidfrost: sweet, all set then :)
[06:28] <Kimble> dr_willis: hi. I must have misunderstood your solution. On rebooting the machine, the drives I changed ownerships on revert back to root ownership. How can I make them automatically assume ugo+rwx perms?
[06:29] <dr_willis> Kimble:  you change the files permissions.
[06:29] <Kimble> dr_willis: you're going to have to be more explicit.
[06:30] <DJango_Novice> hi thr
[06:30] <dr_willis> change each files permission... chmod -R.....
[06:30] <Kimble> dr_willis: I think you're talking about manually changing the permissions once the drives are mounted, am I right?
[06:30] <DJango_Novice> im new to ubuntu and try to delete folder and subfolders...
[06:31] <dr_willis> Kimble:  yes. you cant change them when unmounted..
[06:31] <DJango_Novice> any idea??
[06:31] <Kimble> dr_willis: I'm afraid that doesn't really meet my needs.  I want the drives to automatically assume the correct permissions on reboot.
[06:32] <dr_willis> Kimble:  restate the issue to the channel. i may  me mussing your needs
[06:32] <Kimble> Ok.
[06:32] <GG_> pls help me how can install yahoo messanger in ubuntu?
[06:32] <Kimble> I have two usb flash drives attached to my server. On reboot, these drives are mounted at /media/drive1 and drive2.
[06:33] <Kimble> they have root group and owner, and rwxrxrx permissions.  I want them to be capable of being written to by any user, not just root.
[06:34] <GG_> how can install yahoo messanger in ubuntu?
[06:34] <DJango_Novice> is it really hard to delete folders and subfolders with one command in ubuntu ???
[06:34] <dr_willis> !im | GG_
[06:34] <Kimble> DJango_Novice: are you using the command line
[06:34] <Kimble> ?
[06:34] <Chipzzz> GG_: it might run under wine but you're better off with empathy
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> GG_: Pidgin can connect to Yahoo
[06:35] <DJango_Novice> @kimble:  yes
[06:36] <Kimble> DJango_Novice: then the command you want is rm -rf .
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> DJango_Novice: rm -r foldername
[06:36] <DJango_Novice> kimble: i tried with sudo but didn work
[06:36] <DJango_Novice> let me try this command again
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> DJango_Novice: or   rmdir -p fodlername
[06:38] <DJango_Novice> it worked thaks guys
[06:38] <Chipzzz> Kimble: did you try to chmod /media/drive1 and /media/drive2 to 777 ?
[06:39] <toytoy> guys, any of you familiar with rockwell-csp2?
[06:39] <StepNjump_> dr_willis: yep! It was EXACTLY that indeed! thank you a million!
[06:39] <Kimble> Chipzzz: I chmod'd them within the last hour to rwxrwxrwx, and changed owner/group to my current user, but on reboot all of this was discarded.
[06:40] <Chipzzz> Kimble: if you chmod -r them, do the files & folders they contain remember the permissions?
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> !away > witquicked[away]
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Chipzzz: if they are linux filesystems, yes
[06:42] <witquicked[away]> dude... I set away, and then set my nick.
[06:42] <Kimble> Chipzzz: hang on, I'll test it for you.
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> witquicked[away]: just away, no need for the nick change :)
[06:43] <Chipzzz> ActionParsnip: so the workaround is easy enough... only root can change the root directories of the USB sticks, but everything else becomes accessible to users that way
[06:44] <share> how do I check if multithreading and post processing is active?
[06:44] <witquicked[away]> so all those folks that are <nick>[AFK] would get barked at if they're in here? Good to know....
[06:45] <thisguy> is anyone else unable to boot ubuntu server from usb?
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> witquicked: its channel policy, not my rule
[06:45] <witquicked> understood
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> thisguy: did you MD5 test the ISO you transferred?
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> witquicked: thanks :D
[06:45] <thisguy> let me check
[06:45] <Kimble> Chipzzz: Is this because I'm using ext2?  This just seems inordinately difficult.  From what you're saying, I have to create a 777 folder within any automatically mounted usb drive for it to be writable by anyone but root?
[06:46] <witquicked> ActionParsnip: np
[06:48] <Chipzzz> Kimble: I don't know why your USB sticks are mounting that way but it certainly does seem unwieldy to have to work around it that way
[06:48] <thisguy> the hash matches, the disk boots but asks me for cd?
[06:49] <StepNjump_> Kimble: Root reads everything
[06:50] <Kimble> StepNjump_: lol, I get the impression you haven't read the whole of my issue. hehe :)
[06:50] <Chipzzz> :)
[06:50] <StepNjump_> You are right Kimble
[06:50] <StepNjump_> Just got on
[06:50] <pnorman> Where could I look for a list of ubuntu (or debian) compatible PCIe SAS/SATA cards? I'd like something that's actually supported
[06:52] <StepNjump_> pnorman: http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> thisguy: I've seen this before, what app did you use to put the ISO on the USB?
[06:52] <StepNjump_> hi ActionParsnip !
[06:52] <thisguy> Universal USB Installer
[06:54] <pnorman> StepNjump_: That's a list of lists, none which seem particularly helpful for drives
[06:54] <Kimble> StepNjump_: maybe you could cast your eyes over this issue: I'm running Ub11.10 server, no GUI. I have two USB sticks attached to the server. They are formatted ext2. I want them to mount automatically with 777 perms.  Do you know how to do that?
[06:54] <Kimble> I'm using fstab.
[06:55] <StepNjump_> I messed up a little bit. I stopped Ubuntu One to synchronize the Documents dir. However, on my other computer, I have Documents also. Now that I will tell Ubuntu One to synchronize everything will it crush all the other destination or will it look for differences within all subdirs? I'm a little bit worried to restart the sync
[06:57] <cloudgeek> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --syn --dport 22 -m connlimit -- connlimit  - above 2 -j REJECT
[06:57] <cloudgeek> iptables v1.4.10: You must specify "--connlimit-above"
[06:57] <cloudgeek> Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information.
[06:57] <StepNjump_> mmmmm I'm not a long user of ubuntu, almost green but I don't THINK.. I could be wrong.. that there is such command that will change your chmod permissions when it automounts... ActionParsnip could answer you better than me
[06:57] <StepNjump_> mmmmm I'm not a long user of ubuntu, almost green but I don't THINK.. I could be wrong.. that there is such command that will change your chmod permissions when it automounts... ActionParsnip could answer you better than me Kimble sorry
[06:57] <Kimble> StepNjump_: no probs, your opinion is appreciated nonetheless. Thanks :)
[06:58] <Kimble> ActionParsnip: i don't suppose you can shed any light here?
[06:59] <StepNjump_> Kimble of course you could write a script for it... but then it's out of my ballpark
[06:59] <Kimble> StepNjump_: Hmm, I think , rather than do that, I would just choose an fs that supports setting the uid/gid and perms on mount. lol.
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Kimble: there are samples online is all I can suggest, or if you use linux file systems like Ext2 it will be simpler :)
[07:01] <Kimble> ActionParsnip: lol, I _am_ using Ext2...
[07:01] <StepNjump_> Kimble: I found this http://greenfly.org/tips/usb_drive.html
[07:01] <StepNjump_> I told you he would be your guy Kimble
[07:02] <Kimble> StepNjump_: that's useful. he uses FAT, and I think I may have to too.  I think Ext2 is the issue here.
[07:04] <StepNjump_> oh! you are loosing me.. Beginner's luck I guess
[07:05] <Kimble> In the meantime I'll use Chipzzz suggestion and create a 777 folder for people to use.  It'll do in the meantime.
[07:05] <StepNjump_> I messed up a little bit. I stopped Ubuntu One to synchronize the Documents dir. However, on my other computer, I have Documents also. Now that I will tell Ubuntu One to synchronize everything will it crush all the other destination or will it look for differences within all subdirs? I'm a little bit worried to start a new sync. Could this create a planet-X running into earth kind of effect?
[07:06] <Kimble> Thanks to all of you for your advice and suggestions :) Ciao!
[07:07] <Chipzzz> gl
[07:08] <Free213423> Cya gues
[07:09] <Zyclops> hey dudes.. ok all our macbooks just use the FileVault encryption that encrypts the entire harddrive.. but the rest of the computers just run ubuntu.  What should we be using on them?  What are the recovery options?
[07:09] <Zyclops> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome << is what i've been reading.. but i don't know why you wouldn't just encrypt the whole disk
[07:09] <noisyboi> Impressed with xubuntu :)
[07:10] <l1fetime> greetings
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> noisyboi: it's sweet :)
[07:11] <l1fetime> i've got a karmic server that needs security updates but nothing upgraded beyond what it's pinned to but it's not finding the karmic repos
[07:11] <l1fetime> any documentation on what to change the sources to?
[07:11]  * pnorman is tempted to return this marvell-based supermicro card for a LSI-based one
[07:12] <SycPuppy> Whats a really good detailed terminal with a lot of functions?  Wanting to try to get just a terminal sitting on top of X.
[07:12] <SycPuppy> figure that kinda setup will force me to get better with the cli.
[07:15] <gbear14275> Hey guys... not sure how to get this bug report filed.  I keep getting this error when my system backs up: http://pastebin.com/htBy7V3v
[07:15] <amigo> 12.04 jumping nautilus http://ompldr.org/vYzNlbg russian locale required to reproduce
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> amigo: ask in #ubuntu+1    for precise support, until release day
[07:16] <noisyboi> or try xubuntu :D
[07:18] <noisyboi> I LOVE XUBUNTU!!!!!!
[07:19] <noisyboi> i have tried just about all distros and not satisfied till XUBUNT
[07:21] <cloudgeek> yeah this worked !! for number of limiting connection on ssh you can use this if fin valuable some geeks help me here
[07:21] <cloudgeek> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --syn --dport 22 -m connlimit --connlimit-above 2 -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset
[07:22] <Guest35254> hi, could you please tell me how to install a original Oracle version of Java JDK ? thank you.
[07:23] <hechu> hi, could you please tell me how to install a original Oracle version of Java JDK ? thank you.
[07:23] <hechu> since the 11.10, it seems there is no Sun JDK in the software repository.
[07:25] <SycPuppy> I just install ubuntu and add openbox, lxde, xfce and what not. For some reason I've never figured out when ever I'd do kubuntu xubuntu or anything that wasn't ubuntu I'd run into problems. Can't even get debian to work. i get it installed and then I get nonstop errors and since they are built off of the same base with just different desktops (sept debian) I've always been stumped. Except this ubuntu when it's loading say it can't switch ti cr
[07:26] <SycPuppy> to crt-6*
[07:26] <OliveGreen> Hi all.
[07:26] <SycPuppy> ello
[07:26] <OliveGreen> Is there away I can logout of my session from the command line?
[07:27] <dannel> killall -9 gnome-session is one heavy-handed way
[07:27] <coolstar-ipod> OliveGreen: sudo killall Xorg
[07:28] <l1fetime> are karmic sources available anymore....or what's the deal with that?
[07:28] <coolstar-ipod> SycPuppy: what do you do with all those DE's?
[07:29] <pangolin> l1fetime: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[07:29] <SycPuppy> coolstar-ipod:  Mostly i just tweak them a little here and there. If I'm going to be doing encoding or compiling I switch to openbox to free up more resources.
[07:31] <coolstar-ipod> SycPuppy: If I run out of hdd space from installing stuff on Linux I run into problems(like any OS would)
[07:31] <l1fetime> pangolin: those just the images or there a package repo for updating apt sources for existing installs?
[07:32] <pangolin> l1fetime: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[07:32] <aBound> Hey is it a good thing to try to upgrade the standard kernel in Ubuntu 11.10 to 3.1 instead of the current kernel?
[07:32] <gbear14275> Anyone else been seeing this with deja-dup?
[07:33] <Edico> hi
[07:33] <gbear14275> http://pastebin.com/htBy7V3v
[07:33] <Edico> where can I see what packages ubuntu 10.04 has?
[07:33] <Edico> or any other version
[07:34] <speedxcore>  /join #ubuntu-se
[07:35] <SycPuppy> coolstar-ipod:  well my tower has  a 160 gig sata and a 80 gig IDE that I install allot of distro's to to try outfrom time to time. easy to do since my main distro puppy linux is installed onto a class 10 8 gig sdhc card.
[07:37] <fff> hi
[07:37] <SycPuppy> ello
[07:40] <hilarie_> bleh, is anyone here smarter then gpg pgp? http://paste.ubuntu.com/794615/ worked, but still W: GPG error: http://repos.openvpn.net lucid InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8E6DA8B4E158C569
[07:41] <vikki_> " ActionParsnip> vikki_: try running:  sudo rfkill unblock all" : that fixed it, thanks.
[07:42] <subdesign> ls
[07:42] <subdesign> oh not here
[07:45] <SycPuppy> there a reader software thats like calibre but doesn't have to document every aspect of my ebook collection or try to save everything to triplicate? Love it for converting but it sure is resource hungry for just reading a book.
[07:45] <kirill> Hi
[07:47] <Chipzzz> Edico: apt-cache search
[07:49] <Chipzzz> SycPuppy: you could try to convert the file to a pdf or something that evince can read
[07:50] <dikdik> how do I find my private ip address in ubuntu? (192.168...)
[07:50] <robbbie> dikdik: ip -4 a
[07:50] <gardenfox> so i was wondering what would be better install ubuntu and windows on a split partition or install ubuntu as host and run windows in a virtual machine?
[07:50] <robbbie> dikdik: or ifconfig
[07:50] <dikdik> ifconfig just gives me my public ip
[07:50] <share> I want to update ALSA. Should I use https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ppa ?
[07:50] <SycPuppy> that would be a really slow way to use windows.
[07:51] <robbbie> gardenfox: i really like running windows in virtualbox, seamless mode. i don't play games or anything though.
[07:51] <share> !alsa
[07:51] <dikdik> ip -4 a also just shows my public ip
[07:51] <robbbie> dikdik: then you don't have a private ip
[07:51] <dikdik> i thought all networkable devices had one
[07:51] <gardenfox> robbbie: yeah im wanting to use windows for games
[07:51] <robbbie> dikdik: nope
[07:52] <SycPuppy> They have a arm and intel room but no amd ~_~
[07:52] <robbbie> gardenfox: you'll need to run windows natively
[07:53] <hechu> hi, could you please tell me how to install a original Oracle version of Java JDK ? since the 11.10, it seems there is no Sun JDK in the software repository. thank you.
[07:53] <dikdik> robbbie: can I set one?
[07:54] <robbbie> dikdik: sure, you can configure it in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:54] <gardenfox> robbbie: ok guess i'll do it split partition
[07:54] <dikdik> k ill look into that
[07:54] <dikdik> thanks
[07:55] <robbbie> dikdik: the point of having an ip address is to communicate with other machines on the network, just setting some internal ip 192.168.x.x won't accomplish much for you. what are you trying to do exactly?
[07:56] <dikdik> ftp to my xbox
[07:56] <subdesign> hi, i want to store the current date in an .sh file, but no success. I tried DATE=`date +%Y%m%d`
[07:56] <subdesign> with $DATE i get empty string
[07:57] <robbbie> dikdik: how is your network setup? most home networks consist of cable/dsl modem -> router/device (which has an external ip from the modem, also assigns the internal ip's usually via dhcp) -> internal network
[07:57] <Chipzzz> robbie: you can see your local IP with "netstat -n -tcp"
[07:58] <dikdik> robbbie: im just using a crossover cable to connect to the xbox
[07:58] <robbbie> dikdik: ahh different story
[07:58] <robbbie> dikdik: does your machine have 2 nics?
[07:58] <dikdik> nics?
[07:59] <dikdik> im a little embarrassed that i can't answer that question :)
[07:59] <robbbie> network interface cards. heh not real sure how that is going to work, its been a long time since i've played with crossover cables
[07:59] <dikdik> no
[07:59] <dikdik> just one
[07:59] <robbbie> dikdik: so it doesn't really matter what your ip address is
[07:59] <dikdik> but i have to give my xbox dns information so it can find my laptop
[07:59] <robbbie> dikdik: if you have the crossover cable plugged into your pc, then into the xbox, you're not going to be on the internet... unless i'm missing something.
[08:00] <dikdik> i know
[08:00] <dikdik> im disconnecting from the internet for a minute to copy some files to the xbox
[08:00] <dikdik> im just trying to set everything up
[08:00] <dikdik> i did this a loooong time ago
[08:01] <robbbie> dikdik: i'd find a specific howto or something that can guide you through it. there has to be one..
[08:01] <dikdik> not on ubuntu though
[08:01] <subdesign> any idea?
[08:01] <dikdik> there are, mostly windows
[08:01] <dikdik> ill find it
[08:01] <dikdik> thanks for your help though :)
[08:01] <robbbie> dikdik: show me a windows one and i can tell you what to do with ubuntu :P
[08:02] <robbbie> subdesign: works for me ..
[08:02] <dikdik> k. one sec
[08:03] <SycPuppy> I feel special there, added all the extensions to gparted but forgot to install it.
[08:03] <subdesign> robbbie, i pass to mysqldump , to a filename dbbackup-$DATE.sql and theres an empty string
[08:03] <gbear14275> anyone know where I can get some help with deja-dup?
[08:04] <robbbie> subdesign: pastebin
[08:04] <subdesign> ok
[08:05] <dikdik> robbbie: this shows the basic gist of it http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/213943
[08:07] <robbbie> dikdik: no router? :{
[08:07] <robbbie> err :P
[08:07] <akpk> How can I play .DAT file ??
[08:08] <ssta> depends whaqt it is.  try: file filename.dat
[08:08] <subdesign> robbbie, http://pastie.org/3136141
[08:08] <dikdik> no
[08:08] <dikdik> robbbie: no
[08:09] <akpk> ssta : ??
[08:09] <robbbie> dikdik: http://pastebin.com/LB1Gv46r backup your /etc/network/interfaces somewhere, replace the eth0 portion with that, then service network-interface restart
[08:09] <dikdik> i use a router to connect to my cable modem, but that's in another part of the house where there's no television which i need to set the xbox's settings
[08:09] <dikdik> thanks!
[08:09] <ssta> akpk: .dat is a generic extension, it could be anything.  The "file" command looks at the contents of the file and tries to work out what sort of file it is
[08:09] <dikdik> ill give that a shot
[08:10] <robbbie> then try pinging the xbox, not sure what 'flashfxp' or w/e program is
[08:10] <dikdik> some ftp client, i have another one
[08:11] <subdesign> best on window :>
[08:11] <subdesign> *windows
[08:11] <ssta> we really ought to get ris of extensions...put mimetypes in the filesystem instead
[08:11] <robbbie> subdesign: are all the proper line breaks there?
[08:11] <robbbie> in the paste
[08:11] <subdesign> you mean enters?
[08:11] <share> !kernel
[08:11] <robbbie> subdesign: yessir
[08:11] <subdesign> huh good question
[08:12] <subdesign> is it matter?
[08:12] <robbbie> subdesign: yes
[08:12] <nigg3r> hi
[08:12] <subdesign> ok revisiting my script
[08:12] <robbbie> sup nigg3r
[08:12] <nigg3r> installing ubuntu in virtualbox
[08:12] <robbbie> nigg3r:werd
[08:12] <akpk> ssta : iam trying to play a video file.dat
[08:13] <somsip> akpk: rename it as .mpg
[08:13] <Chipzzz> akpk: right click on it and open it with movie player or vlc or something
[08:13] <ssta> akpk: any of the video players will probably do it
[08:13] <ssta> problem is there are hundreds of video formats
[08:14] <share> How can I downgrade from 2.6.35-31-generic to 2.6.35-30-generic
[08:14] <bkerensa> .
[08:14] <somsip> akpk: is it off a VCD?
[08:14] <akpk> Chipzzz,somsip,ssta : Thank you.
[08:14] <Chipzzz> ssta: the players usually know from the file header what codecs to use
[08:14] <akpk> It is playin with vlc
[08:14] <ssta> Chipzzz: yeah, generally
[08:14] <Chipzzz> akpk: you're welcomd
[08:14] <akpk> somsip : actually it is a vcd
[08:14] <ssta> unless it's some difficult to play format like rm
[08:15] <somsip> akpk: used to be .mpg files years ago, but you've got it working now which is all that matters
[08:15] <Chipzzz> somsip: you may have to mount it and play it like a CD
[08:15] <somsip> Chipzzz: >> akpk
[08:15] <subdesign> robbbie, working
[08:15] <Chipzzz> somsip: sorry
[08:15] <subdesign> only hit enters no modification done in code
[08:15] <subdesign> thx
[08:16] <robbbie> subdesign: looked like just one i saw
[08:19] <bkerensa> !rules | nigg3r
[08:20] <nigg3r> bkerensa: ?
[08:21] <Chipzzz> *shrugs*
[08:21] <robbbie> would nigg4 be an acceptable nick?
[08:21] <share> Do I need to reinstall Nvidia drivers after rolling back Kernel?
[08:22] <Guest26437> any 1 knows any open mail relay server ??????
[08:22] <robbbie> Guest26437: postfix ?
[08:22] <newbie_> why are people in here discriminating against nick use?
[08:22] <Flannel> newbie_: Because this channel aims to be family friendly.
[08:23] <Chipzzz> I was just watching "Thurman" earlier... although I wasn't offended by the original nick, maybe "newbie_" is best...
[08:23] <Chipzzz> ;)
[08:23] <newbie_> I am new to Ubuntu. I am coming from Gentoo Linux and Mac OS X.
[08:24] <Chipzzz> sup
[08:25] <Guest26437> postfix ??? i don't know that ... plz explain ...
[08:25] <pnorman> Guest26437: What do you mean by mail relay server?
[08:25] <ssta> Guest26437: why would you want one?  They can all be configured to be open relays
[08:25] <Guest26437> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_mail_relay
[08:26] <bkerensa> Guest26437: More info on Postfix can be found here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[08:27] <stepnjump> I cannot connect to my samba share I think. I get the error: Unable to mount location - Failed to retrieve share list from server, I ran findsmb and this is what I got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/794636/
[08:27] <pnorman> Guest26437: postfix is a common mail server. but if you set it up as an open relay, expect it to be blacklisted
[08:28] <subdesign> why gzip makes a 47 byte file from 250k sql file?
[08:28] <tensorpudding> 47 bytes?
[08:29] <tensorpudding> that sounds a bit...small
[08:29] <subdesign> 47 bytes yes
[08:29] <tensorpudding> way too small to be an actual gzip file
[08:29] <somsip> subdesign: does it gunzip correctly?
[08:29] <tensorpudding> you can do rather amazing compression, but that's ridiculous
[08:30] <subdesign> somsip didn't try..
[08:30] <Chipzzz> tensorpudding: did you cat it to see what was in it?
[08:30] <subdesign> may I need some swtich?
[08:30] <subdesign> switch
[08:30] <somsip> subdesign: because if your question is 'how does it do that' maybe it's a buit outside the scope of the channel. If it's borked, maybe someone knows something
[08:30] <Guest26437> ok ... so how to configure postfix as open relay mail server ... may b the right question ..
[08:30] <tensorpudding> gzip doesn't require a switch to gzip
[08:30] <tensorpudding> err, to compress a single file
[08:31] <pnorman> subdesign: I would guess that some wrong option was passed on the command line. What command did you use to make the file?
[08:31] <subdesign> pnorman: gzip $HOME/db_backups/database-`date +\%Y\%m\%d`.sql
[08:32] <akpk> I can't tweet from my Gwibber...
[08:32] <tensorpudding> are you sure that that file actually exists
[08:32] <akpk> But I can read all tweets.
[08:32] <pnorman> subdesign: does ls -l  $HOME/db_backups/database-`date +\%Y\%m\%d`.sql indicate that the file exists?
[08:34] <subdesign> pnorman, it exists
[08:35] <subdesign> pnorman: mysqldump generates before the gzip line
[08:35] <newbie_> c.unt_rag
[08:36] <subdesign> better using  tar ?
[08:36] <prince_jammys> !ops | c-unt , troll.
[08:36] <Chipzzz> subdesign: did you open the gz file to see what was in it?
[08:36] <c-unt> prince_jammys: Problem?
[08:36] <prince_jammys> yep.
[08:37] <k6b> lol
[08:37] <c-unt> prince_jammys: Please go to hell you twat.
[08:37] <subdesign> Chipzzz, 0 byte file .. :/
[08:38] <Chipzzz> subdesign: obviously something wrong with the path
[08:38] <ssta> subdesign: I'd try each line in the script one at a time and see if any of them fail
[08:38] <ssta> worktime
[08:38] <tensorpudding> !language | c-unt
[08:39] <prince_jammys> s/he's doing this in multiple channels.
[08:39] <pnorman> As well as messages
[08:41] <ssta> silly boy
[08:42] <Chipzzz> subdesign: maybe something like this would work better: gzip "$HOME/db_backups/database-date %Y %m %d.sql"
[08:42] <anonymous229> hello , maybe someone know good vpn or some way to hide ip (not only in the browser) ubuntu 11.04
[08:42] <somsip> subdesign: or even piping mysqldump through gzip...
[08:42] <londonwanker> any niggers?
[08:44] <Humbedooh> !language | londonwanker
[08:44] <duuuuuu> salut
[08:44] <subdesign> somsip: yes now i try with tar if not success then piping
[08:45] <pnorman> subdesign: If you don't need to keep the uncompressed .sql around, I'd go right for piping.
[08:45] <subdesign> hehe now 147 byte with tar
[08:45] <subdesign> ok
[08:45] <subdesign> *bytes
[08:46] <pnorman> subdesign: my guess is something is off with the escaping somewhere
[08:46] <duuuuuu> I search the canal french for the language programation html ? what typing for connect this canal ?
[08:46] <prince_jammys> duuuuuu: ask at #html. '' /join #html ''
[08:47] <duuuuuu> ok thank you
[08:47] <vartan> good morning
[08:48] <Chipzzz> <--waves
[08:49] <vartan> can i bother some one with a question, i cant see to use "service networking restart"
[08:49] <Humbedooh> does it keep saying stop/waiting?
[08:49] <vartan> yeah...
[08:49] <Humbedooh> and did you just do an upgrade? :>
[08:50] <vartan> nope, fresh install ubuntu server 11.10
[08:50] <stepnjump> Im trying to install a php application on my desktop. What do I need to know in order to run it?
[08:50] <londonwanker> Psi-Jack: Please stop PM'ing me without permission.
[08:50] <Humbedooh> mkay well check dmesg or some such to see if there's an error in networking config
[08:50] <Psi-Jack> londonwanker: Excuse me?
[08:51] <prince_jammys> /ignore him until the ops wake up; I pinged them.
[08:51] <londonwanker> prince_jammys: Please kill yourself.
[08:51] <Psi-Jack> Ahh, I see. He's that troll that goes around freenode.
[08:51] <iceroot> stepnjump: install an php application? can you provide more infos what application?
[08:51] <londonwanker> Psi-Jack: "Goes around freenode", huh?
[08:52] <londonwanker> Actually, I'm afraid ... you're mistaken.
[08:53] <Chipzzz> please type "/join #channeling-the-voices-in-my-head"
[08:53] <stepnjump> iceroot, im sstill looking for one. You see Im trying to install a trouble ticket (helpdesk) app but all of those that I find are php based ready for production for people working from home. I could use a very simple program that runs in konsole but I cant find that anywhere...
[08:53] <Justin> usage of pm is merely a option publicly available, londonwanker: if you have a problem I'd suggest disabling pm's on your client
[08:54] <iceroot> stepnjump: you need a webserver and php5
[08:54] <iceroot> stepnjump: to run php locally on your machine
[08:54] <iceroot> stepnjump: or just a webbrowser to access the php-application on another machine
[08:54] <prince_jammys> except in the rare case that it's a console app in php.
[08:55] <iceroot> stepnjump: is it a php-application for the shell?
[08:55] <iceroot> stepnjump: then you just need php5-cli
[08:55] <iceroot> !info php5-cli
[08:55] <Guest26437> plz tell me ... how to configure postfix as open relay mail server
[08:55] <stepnjump> iceroot: seems complex to run a server here at home
[08:55] <iceroot> Guest26437: dont!! configure postfix like that
[08:56] <iceroot> Guest26437: #postfix
[08:56] <Guest26437> why ?
[08:56] <iceroot> Guest26437: because everyone is able to send spam over that machine
[08:56] <pnorman> Other mail servers will block it, and it will be used for spam.
[08:56] <stepnjump> thanks iceroot... I appreciate that.
[08:56] <k6b> Guest26437: what's your server's hostname again?
[08:56] <iceroot> stepnjump: i dont know your application, if it is cli only you can use php5-cli else you need a webserver and php5
[08:57] <stepnjump> I think I will have to learn to program in pearl myself because I would rather use my apps under konsole than in X
[08:57] <iceroot> k6b: great question so we can set that adress on the blocklist of our servers
[08:57] <Guest26437> k6b i don't have yet
[08:57] <iceroot> stepnjump: perl?
[08:57] <k6b> iceroot: exactly....
[08:57] <k6b> srsly, Guest26437, don't do that bad idea
[08:57] <iceroot> Guest26437: just dont do that
[08:58] <stepnjump> Well, you know... I like konsole applications.. for instance, Im running weechat here right now and I like it better than X applications. Easier on the eyes and quicker
[08:58] <stepnjump> iceroot yes or C++.. Used to program a little
[08:58] <Guest26437> can u give me the reference , how it works ..?
[08:58] <stepnjump> iceroot: Ill just end up writing my own apps
[08:58] <iceroot> Guest26437: #postfix
[08:58] <share> !alsamixer
[08:59] <stepnjump> Am I one of the rare ones that still enjoys the command line?
[08:59] <iceroot> stepnjump: start with python
[08:59] <Humbedooh> !alsa
[08:59] <pnorman> stepnjump: I use irssi
[08:59] <stepnjump> iceroot: oh yes? Ok... Whyis that
[08:59] <iceroot> stepnjump: and if you can NEVER use perl, also see ##programming, # python, ##c++
[08:59] <stepnjump> iceroot: NEVER use perl?
[08:59] <k6b> stepnjump: I work in the command line everyday, 90% of my job
[09:00] <stepnjump> thanks for the channels iceroot
[09:00] <stepnjump> k6b I like it better. Even the applications running without an X is best!
[09:00] <stepnjump> less distractions
[09:00] <Chipzzz> iceroot: what's wrong with perl?
[09:00] <stepnjump> iceroot: are you suggesting I dont learn Perl?
[09:01] <stepnjump> Why is Python better iceroot
[09:01]  * prince_jammys giggles.
[09:01] <iceroot> Chipzzz: the syntax
[09:01] <Humbedooh> nitpicking, pfft
[09:01] <Humbedooh> spaghetti programming ftw!
[09:01] <prince_jammys> and ... whatever you do, NEVER write it with emacs ;)
[09:01] <Humbedooh> nano!
[09:01] <k6b> vim ftw
[09:01] <iceroot> stepnjump: i would say that the common language on GNU/Linux is bash,python and c
[09:01] <k6b> HAHA nano, silly silly
[09:02] <Chipzzz> you don't have to look very far to find a whole lot of very effective perl code
[09:02] <iceroot> stepnjump: perl of course too but its to hard (to read)
[09:02] <iceroot> Chipzzz: yes of course
[09:02] <Humbedooh> I find Perl easier to read than Python :>
[09:02] <Humbedooh> I guess it's a matter of taste
[09:02] <iceroot> Humbedooh: orthe amount of beer
[09:03] <Chipzzz> I'm much more comfortable in Python, but I also have great respect for perl
[09:03]  * Humbedooh is one of those oddballs that use Lua instead..
[09:03] <prince_jammys> meet 'em half way: write it in ruby.
[09:03] <vartan> Humbedooh: now my networking is up but the service still reports "stop/waiting"
[09:03] <Chipzzz> lol
[09:03] <prince_jammys> (with vim, on gnome)
[09:03] <Humbedooh> vartan, but can you connect to stuff?
[09:04] <vartan> yeah i get i a ping
[09:04] <Humbedooh> well then...leave it be? :>
[09:05] <vartan> i was just wondering why was it telling me that "service networking stop" -> "stop: unknown instance"
[09:05] <Humbedooh> I find that using /etc/init.d/networking is sometimes more productive
[09:05] <stepnjump> iceroot ok and Python is farter to understand?
[09:05] <Chipzzz> vartan: are you sudoing those commands?
[09:05] <_HoochMan_> anyone have experience with the plymouth boot screen manager?
[09:05] <iceroot> stepnjump: we should move that to ##programming
[09:06] <stepnjump> ok iceroot
[09:06] <iceroot> stepnjump: but imo python is much easier to understand then perl
[09:06] <vartan> Chipzzz: yep
[09:06] <Chipzzz> vartan: "unknown instance" of what, I wonder...
[09:06] <stepnjump> ok thanks for the hint iceroot
[09:07] <vartan> Chipzzz: thats the message "stop: unknown instance"
[09:08] <_HoochMan_> How do you get the latest ubuntu splash screen changed?
[09:08] <Chipzzz> vartan: yes, but I wonder what it isn't finding an instance of... you said the networking was running, didn't you?
[09:09] <vartan> Chipzzz: yeah
[09:09] <Chipzzz> curious...
[09:09] <vartan> Chipzzz: it seems as if it tries to say that "stop" is not a valid parameter of "service networking stop"
[09:10] <vartan> Chipzzz: same thing is i do "stop networking"
[09:10] <abckid> i hv download broadcom tg3 driver and run: make ; make install; success. what's next cmd to turn on wired internet
[09:10] <iceroot> !broadcom | abckid
[09:10] <iceroot> hm
[09:10] <Chipzzz> vartan: there's no error message from "stop networking"?
[09:11] <vartan> Chipzzz: i ment that the error message was the same "stop: unknown instance"
[09:11] <abckid> i m on kindle pls type me the cmd
[09:12] <Chipzzz> vartan: sorry, I misunderstood. Same with "/etc/init.d/networking stop", I assume?
[09:12] <_HoochMan_> No one knows how to change ubuntu's boot screen I guess?
[09:12] <prince_jammys> vartan: what ubuntu release?
[09:13] <vartan> Chipzzz: that where the punchline comes in, "etc/init.d/networking stop" works OK
[09:13] <vartan> 11.10
[09:13] <Humbedooh> as I said :p
[09:13] <Humbedooh> "I find that using /etc/init.d/networking is sometimes more productive"
[09:13] <Chipzzz> vartan: lol
[09:13] <prince_jammys> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/440179
[09:14] <Chipzzz> thanks, prince :)
[09:14] <szal> prince_jammys: that's an old bug that shouldn't apply any more as *buntu has been using upstart for years
[09:15] <meco> What's the app where I can change the audio balance?
[09:15] <vartan> Humbedooh: i know, and i cant agree with you more, it would be nice if it didnt keep telling to use the upstart script (that does not work btw)
[09:16] <Chipzzz> lol
[09:16] <_HoochMan_> Nothing like talking to ones self.... hmmm wondering if my text is making it to the room
[09:17] <mang0> _HoochMan_: Yup :P
[09:17] <_HoochMan_> oh thanks
[09:17] <Chipzzz> _HoochMan_: My guess is nobody knows
[09:17] <_HoochMan_> ok thanks....
[09:18] <_HoochMan_> I'll keep digging the online docs then...
[09:18] <peng_> How to disable brightness control in unity? I'm using ubuntu 11.10 with Thinkpad T520
[09:20] <afidegnum> hello good mornig all, we just changed a new DSL router and I can't use filezilla to connect to the remote server, what should I do? I am currently using the latest version of ubuntut
[09:21] <vartan> Chipzzz, Humbedooh: i just tired this in 10.04 i have here and its the same, the "service networking" and the upstart script dont respond to stop...
[09:21] <szal> afidegnum: check firewall settings in the router
[09:21] <szal> afidegnum: and/or port forwarding
[09:21] <afidegnum> I have disabled the firewall
[09:22] <Chipzzz> vartan: and again, the /etc/init.d... does?
[09:22] <vartan> Chipzzz: yep
[09:23] <vartan> szal: is the remote server on your network or "Really remote? :)
[09:23] <afidegnum> what else should I do? the port forwarding menu does not exist but i think its rather the filter menu
[09:23] <Chipzzz> vartan: lol...
[09:23] <Starminn> Any ideas as to why this: http://imagebin.org/192072 would happen to some dialog screens?
[09:24] <subdesign> pnorman: with piping I can zip sql and send by email, but the zip content 'll be a 0 byte file..
[09:24] <subdesign> pnorman: 100% this dynamic date string causes the problem
[09:24] <vartan> afidegnum: can you ping the ftp server IP?
[09:25] <Chipzzz> Starminn: do you have any network drives that may not be ready?
[09:25] <szal> vartan: ?
[09:25] <vartan> sorry it was ment at afidegnum o_O
[09:25] <afidegnum> vartan: the ftp server domain is working
[09:25] <vartan> afidegnum; i will take it as you get a replay, yes?
[09:26] <_HoochMan_> afidegnum: try checking DHCP in the router, is your new router communicating on the internet, are the networked computers able to see the router?
[09:26] <afidegnum> yes, I had a reply
[09:27] <afidegnum> yes, it's a network of more than 15 computers, the are all browsing successfully, the router comes with an inbuilt wireless which is also working
[09:27] <vartan> afidegnum: normally the easiest way to diagnose this is to set the computer you are connecting "from" as the DMZ, that should remove any port restrictions (normally) and then try
[09:27] <afidegnum> euh, pls explain that
[09:28] <vartan> afidegnum: on almost all routers you can define one or more computer as DMZ, basically exposed, aka no firewall rules will be "allow all" inbound and outbound traffic
[09:29] <Starminn> Chipzzz, Umm... What do you mean?
[09:29] <DoctorD> is there a way i can connect to my wireless router trough terminal ? to have the possibility to change file name or create new ones? something like creating a new .html / .php file, or copy/paste one from my localhost
[09:29] <vartan> *me reads his own words and sees he is not making much sense this morning
[09:31] <Chipzzz> Starminn: The dialog you show is looking for files and if a drive is not ready or unavailable it may prevent the entire directory structure from displaying
[09:31] <DoctorD> afidegnum: DMZ stands for Demilitarized Zone. DMZ allows computers behind the router firewall to be accessible to Internet traffic. Typically, your DMZ would contain Web servers, FTP servers and others.
[09:31] <Starminn> Chipzzz, The same color scheme is present in gedit. It's not the emptiness I'm so worried about (although all I'm doing is saving a file, and it's only like that with that one program (Simple Scan).
[09:31] <afidegnum> HEEEEY, Militaries are coming here too lol
[09:32] <DoctorD> afidegnum: The DMZ (Demilitarized Zone) option lets you set a single computer on your network outside of the router. If you have a computer that cannot run Internet applications successfully from behind the router, then you can place the computer into the DMZ for unrestricted Internet access.
[09:32] <afidegnum> here is the interface of my modem, http://imagebin.org/192073
[09:32] <Wally> Modems!! 56k D:
[09:32] <vartan> DoctorD: http://blog.tplus1.com/index.php/2008/06/13/how-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network-from-the-ubuntu-command-line/
[09:32] <vartan> DoctorD:should point you in the right direction
[09:33] <DoctorD> afidegnum: what do you want to do ? cause i was not here since you started to ask questions
[09:33] <no-name-> anybody have any experience with the HD 6310 and ubuntu?
[09:33] <DoctorD> @vartan - thanks !
[09:33] <g06|in> is there a way to run déjà dup in a terminal without X?
[09:33]  * Wally throws a fish at DoctorD
[09:33] <afidegnum> well, this is a new added modem, and I can't have any application connected except the web browser connecing to the internet
[09:33] <afidegnum> Filezilla is not working
[09:33] <Wally> uhh wrong channel
[09:34] <vartan> lol
[09:34] <DoctorD> @afidegnum: hm...
[09:34] <DoctorD> @afidegnum: you can use DMZ to see if it's because of the router you cannot access the internet
[09:35] <afidegnum> DoctorD: the router can access the internet, only additional applications are not working
[09:35] <afidegnum> as I just discovered, utorent, and filezilla
[09:35] <afidegnum> I am nore interresteed in filezilla
[09:35] <DoctorD> @afidegnum: Ok..you must make port forwarding
[09:36] <afidegnum> ok, how do I do that?
[09:36] <DoctorD> @afidegnum: you must have an option there somewhere where you put your PC's IP and PORT (fillezilla stands for 21, so your IP is, let's say 192.168.1.100, and your port 21)
[09:37] <DoctorD> i think in port mapping, can you give me a screenshot of it ?
[09:37] <almoxarife> i am getting black screen on virt-box (xp) of the current xbmc.exe, , common?
[09:38]  * Cinober is now auto-away after 15m idle
[09:38] <DoctorD> @afidegnum: a screenshot of the port mapping page it will be nice..as i don't know what's there because i didn't have this kind of router before
[09:38] <afidegnum> ok, I am starting with filter, http://imagebin.org/192075
[09:39] <DoctorD> @afidegnum - uhm..isn't what i was expecting...
[09:39] <DoctorD> at DIrection, what options do you have ?
[09:39] <afidegnum> an interface of port mapping http://imagebin.org/192077
[09:41] <DoctorD> @afidegnum: don't you have a link called virtual server or port forwarding ?
[09:41] <afidegnum> no
[09:41] <afidegnum> this is a completely differnt server
[09:42] <afidegnum> euh different interfeace
[09:42] <afidegnum> interface
[09:42] <DoctorD> hm..let me think about a little bit, ok ?
[09:42] <DoctorD> ok
[09:42] <DoctorD> go to basic - > NAT
[09:42] <Chipzzz> afidegnum: set it for enet0 port 21 at source address 192.168.1.0 and active
[09:43] <afidegnum> Chipzzz: where is htat ?
[09:43] <DoctorD> i want a screenshot from there if you can. @ of course, maybe Chipzzz can help
[09:43] <Chipzzz> afidegnum: on the filter screen you put up on imagebin
[09:43] <DoctorD> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Huawei/EchoLife-HG520s/Utorrent.htm
[09:43] <afidegnum> yes,
[09:44] <DoctorD> http://forums.pcwintech.com/index.php?topic=1349.0
[09:44] <afidegnum> hold this is the NAT interface
[09:44] <afidegnum> vhttp://imagebin.org/192079
[09:44] <DoctorD> http://boards.portforward.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=244
[09:44] <DoctorD> http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Huawei/EchoLife-HG520s/eMule.htm
[09:44] <DoctorD> so you must go to Basic - NAT -> and there you'll have , i think, DMZ and Virtual Server
[09:44] <DoctorD> hope em i right
[09:45] <Shakyj> any workaround for this bug yet? http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=346 on ubuntu
[09:45] <stepnjump> Michael, iceroot... could you please kindly let me know what I shoud do next? I tar -xzvf the tar.gz file into it's dir and then I ran the python command.. Am I supposed to make install now? http://roundup.sourceforge.net/ Thanks!
[09:45] <afidegnum> ok
[09:46] <DoctorD> afidegnum: so..?
[09:46] <afidegnum> yes, checking it up
[09:46] <DoctorD> alright, waiting ;)
[09:46] <ibodi> i have manually installed broadcom tg3 drivers and make install successfully. however i donot know how to configure the network, can you tell me the cmd . seems 1-2 lines only. i forgot. some guy showed me yesterday.
[09:48] <iceroot> stepnjump: i am out, dont have a real system here to have a look at that, sorry
[09:49] <obakfahad> Can i use ubuntu from usb drive and save session?
[09:49] <iceroot> obakfahad: yes
[09:49] <iceroot> !usb | obakfahad
[09:50] <kanupatar> hi all
[09:50] <stepnjump> iceroot, yes i just noticed it still uses web capabilities! grrrrrr
[09:50] <kanupatar> how can I find my dostro version if I dont have the /etc/isssue file ?
[09:50] <kanupatar> i mean from shell
[09:50] <Pino> ciao a tutti
[09:50] <llutz> kanupatar: lsb_release -sc
[09:51] <obakfahad> thanks all ...i will check.
[09:51] <kanupatar> llutz: thanks, but how can I get the dtro ? like ubuntu/redhat/suse
[09:52] <llutz> kanupatar: lsb_release -a
[09:52] <iceroot> kanupatar: /etc/issue not /etc/isssue
[09:52] <kanupatar> iceroot: yes, i mispelled it
[09:52] <kanupatar> iceroot: sorry
[09:52] <llutz> kanupatar: if you don't have /etc/issue, it's at least nothing debian-related :)
[09:52] <kanupatar> llutz: no lsb_release command found
[09:52] <llutz> kanupatar: uname -a
[09:53] <iceroot> kanupatar: hm i only now unix-systems which dont have /etc/issue  is uname -a showing linux?
[09:53] <stepnjump> guys, I'm trying to run this sofware here. I think it's web based but I am not quite sure. I did perform the steps shown on website: http://roundup.sourceforge.net/
[09:53] <kanupatar> iceroot: yes, kernel 2.6.18
[09:53] <llutz> kanupatar: uname -a   whats the FULL output?
[09:53] <kanupatar> llutz: wait
[09:53] <bazhang> !info roundup | stepnjump
[09:54] <bazhang> stepnjump, install from repos
[09:54] <kanupatar> iceroot: llutz : my ultimate aim is to take screen shot of my shell
[09:55] <bal> how to remove  corupted package
[09:55] <llutz> kanupatar: copy paste > pastebin
[09:55] <stepnjump> oh really! bazhang ... all this !!! oh boy!
[09:55] <stepnjump> thanks a lot
[09:55] <llutz> !paste | kanupatar
[09:55] <kanupatar> iceroot: llutz so no scrot or format command avilable
[09:55] <bal> E: The package libcupscgi1 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:55] <stepnjump> another question.. earlier I had to do sudo -i but now I cannot drop the elevated priviledges. I tried sudo -k ..
[09:55] <stepnjump> still up there
[09:55] <kanupatar> llutz: iceroot : Linux (none) 2.6.18-7.8 #4 SMP Mon Dec 19 18:01:03 SAST 2011 7335b0-smp unknown
[09:55] <bal> how to remove or reinstall this ?
[09:56] <nightshade209> stepnjump try exit
[09:56] <oCean> stepnjump: sudo -i started an interactive root shell, just type exit (or ctrl-d) to quit that
[09:56] <llutz> kanupatar: well, says nothing to me, sry
[09:56] <almoxarife> bal: what are you using to install and remove?
[09:56] <kanupatar> llutz: how can I take screenshot of my shell :(
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[09:57] <kanupatar> llutz: iceroot : no scrot command
[09:57] <kanupatar> llutz: so planned to install that, so stuck in distro  namne
[09:58] <stepnjump> oh yes that is true.. I remember now thanks oCean
[09:58] <bal> i tryed sudo apt-get install -f too
[09:58] <ibodi> anyone help me with broadcom tg3 driver on 10.10 please stuck in the middle.
[09:58] <stepnjump> thanks for your help too bazhang
[09:58] <Starminn> This keeps happening: http://imagebin.org/192082 suggestions? (Ubuntu 11.10 w/ Unity, logout didn't fix it)
[09:58] <JonRob> hey, if i'm dualbooting with windows, what's the best way to share files across the partitions?
[09:59] <JonRob> if i copy, things will get out of sync, but if i use a symlink, the partition isn't automounted and banshee etc. won't be able to read the files
[09:59] <almoxarife> bal: but its installed already right?
[09:59] <JonRob> unless i mount
[09:59] <Ben64> JonRob: use a partition for storage both OSs can read/write
[09:59] <nightshade209> JonRob: automount the partition at boot
[09:59] <b0nec0llect0r> is there an alternative for mplayer-plugin or mozilla-mplayer on amd64?
[09:59] <JonRob> Ben64: but, is there anyway to make it automount without editing /etc/fstab
[10:00] <Ben64> editing fstab isn't very difficult
[10:00] <bal> then what is the erro . in my tool bar there is a red -  icone is there
[10:00] <almoxarife> b0nec0llect0r: vlc plugin
[10:00] <JonRob> Ben64, maybe not, but it's not quite what i want to do in this situation.
[10:00] <bal> telling some dependcy error
[10:01] <b0nec0llect0r> almoxarife: I vhave it installed but it doesn seem to work though..
[10:01] <almoxarife> b0nec0llect0r: what browser?
[10:01] <kanupatar> iceroot: llutz any more inputs sorry
[10:01] <b0nec0llect0r> almoxarife: firefox
[10:01] <JonRob> thanks for the tips, anyway
[10:02] <bal> i need to install synaptic  ?
[10:02] <Starminn> This keeps happening: http://imagebin.org/192082 Ubuntu 11.10 w/ Unity, logout didn't fix it) -- Any suggestions?
[10:02] <Ben64> fstab is how to make things automount
[10:02] <almoxarife> b0nec0llect0r: if firefox is like chromium you have to disable the mplayer/totem to get vlc to work in the plugins
[10:02] <nightshade209> Starminn: did you modify the theme?
[10:02] <Ben64> Starminn: what am i looking at?
[10:02] <almoxarife> b0nec0llect0r: disable the plugins, not the apps
[10:02] <Starminn> Ben64, Nautilus "Home" folder
[10:03] <Starminn> nightshade209, Nope, just started doing it.
[10:03] <Ben64> Starminn: yes... but whats wrong about it
[10:03] <Starminn> Ben64, The colors are all wrong. I'm using the stock Ambiance theme.
[10:03] <b0nec0llect0r> almoxarife: tnx, at least something new to try :-)
[10:03] <nightshade209> Starminn: try switching the theme back to the default ambiance
[10:03] <bal> this is what i tryed "sudo apt-get install synaptic Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: The package libcupscgi1 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:03] <nightshade209> Starminn: oh ok
[10:03] <Starminn> nightshade209, It *is* the default ambiance, though.
[10:03] <kanupatar> how can I find my linux distro as I dont have lsb_release or etc/issue file in my distro..this is my kernel Linux (none) 2.6.18-7.8 #4 SMP Mon Dec 19 18:01:03 SAST 2011 7335b0-smp unknown
[10:03] <Starminn> nightshade209, *nods*
[10:03] <Ben64> Starminn: switch back to it anyway?
[10:03] <almoxarife> bal: can you type this in terminal           sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[10:04] <nightshade209>  kanupatar: what happened to uname -a?
[10:04] <oCean> kanupatar: it's definitely not ubuntu, so unfortunately we cannot help you, maybe try the ##linux channel
[10:05] <bal> sudo apt-get install pastebinit [sudo] password for web:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: The package libcupscgi1 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:05] <almoxarife> Linux (none) ? the none'nia distro
[10:05] <Starminn> Ben64, nightshade209, http://imagebin.org/192084
[10:06] <Ben64> Starminn: have you tried switching it to something else, then back to ambiance?
[10:06] <nightshade209> Starminn: what are other themes looking like?
[10:06] <almoxarife> bal: did you do as i asked?
[10:06] <nightshade209> try radiance or something?
 it is the errro it shows "sudo apt-get install pastebinit [sudo] password for web:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: The package libcupscgi1 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
yes
[10:07] <bal>  <almoxarife>the result is i posted here
sudo apt-get install pastebinit [sudo] password for web:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: The package libcupscgi1 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[10:07] <almoxarife> bal: thats enough
[10:07] <Starminn> nightshade209, Ben64, Radiance: http://imagebin.org/192086
[10:08] <kanupatar> nightshade209: oCean iceroot llutz : i have the verson file and i got my distro details : this is my linux Broadcom/97335b0-smp_be-nor-nand Version 1.3.4 --  Mon Dec 19 18:00:54 SAST 2011
then what i have do for installing synapitc? or where i can get synapitc pakege manger in ubuntu 11.4
[10:09] <bal> sorry 11.10
[10:09] <Ben64> Starminn: try installing gnome-tweak-tool and playing with the theming in there
[10:09] <bal> i did't see it in system settings?
[10:09] <almoxarife> bal: 11.10? #ubuntu+1
[10:09] <Ben64> almoxarife: 11.10 is here
[10:09] <almoxarife> no
[10:09] <Ben64> 12.04 is #ubuntu+1
[10:09] <bazhang> almoxarife, sure it is
[10:09] <Starminn> Ben64, Umm.... That's what half the screenshot was of..
[10:09] <almoxarife> bal: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:10] <Ben64> Starminn: so it is...
[10:10] <bal> sorry 10.10
[10:10] <kanupatar> s1gny: I have to get the screen shot of my shell
[10:10] <almoxarife> bal: sudo apt-get install synaptic
 same error "web@web-admin:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: The package libcupscgi1 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[10:12] <bal> "E: The package libcupscgi1 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[10:12] <almoxarife> is apt-get 'purge' a combo of remove and purge confs or do both need to be keyed?
[10:13] <almoxarife> bal: type gksu synaptic
[10:13] <nightshade209> bal: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libcupscgi1
[10:13] <nightshade209> try installing manually?
[10:14] <nightshade209> bal: u havent unchecked anything under Software Sources, have you?
[10:15] <almoxarife> nightshade209: the package exists in repos according to this http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libcupscgi1
[10:15] <bal> is this for me?  "<almoxarife> is apt-get 'purge' a combo of remove and purge confs or do both need to be keyed?"
[10:16] <almoxarife> bal: no
[10:16] <nightshade209> almoxarife: yes, but since his system can't seem to find it
[10:16] <bal> update manager tells an erro"Software index is broken It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first."
[10:17] <Starminn> Ben64, nightshade209, I ran software updates and it fixed it. What broke it was an update from 2 hours ago
[10:17] <nightshade209> bal: try sudo dpkg -a --configure
[10:17] <almoxarife> bal: copy paste this to terminal          sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[10:17] <Knorre> is it normal for apt-get distr-upgrade to take long?
[10:17] <nightshade209> Starminn: oh ok, glad to know
[10:17] <nightshade209> Knorre: yes, very long
[10:17] <Knorre> i see
[10:18] <Knorre> any estimate on how long exactly?
[10:18] <nightshade209> Knorre: depends on your net speed and what you are upgrading to
[10:18] <Knorre> well all packages downloaded pretty fast, it's the installation process that takes long
[10:18] <nightshade209> Knorre: but i would take a nice long lunch break or something
[10:18] <almoxarife> bal: share the link
[10:18] <nightshade209> Knorre: then about 30 min
[10:18] <nightshade209> Knorre: or max 45
[10:19] <Knorre> oh i guess i'll just clean some stuff up here :)
[10:19] <nightshade209> Knorre:  :)
[10:20] <Knorre> is there any way to get mIRC on ubuntu?
[10:20] <almoxarife> bal: the link?
[10:20] <almoxarife> Knorre: yea, if wine runs it
[10:21] <Knorre> i'll look into that
[10:21] <Knorre> i'm an avid user of its script interface and xchat and konversation don't have that, from what i've seen
[10:22] <afidegnum> hllo, how do I find the default gateway on my PC?
[10:22] <afidegnum> using ubuntu ...
[10:23] <oCean> afidegnum: in terminal, type  ip route
[10:23] <afidegnum> and what does metric stands for
[10:23] <afidegnum> ?
[10:24] <kristian_> hi
[10:24] <almoxarife> afidegnum: in the network applet if you are connected
[10:25] <vivekimsit> what is the easiest way to run my script at particular time every hour..
[10:25] <oCean> !cron | vivekimsit
[10:25] <nightshade209> vivekimsit: configure it in cron
[10:25] <subdesign> thank you all I solved the backup emailing problem.
[10:25] <almoxarife> vivekimsit: or gnome-scheduler, not as sexy as that terminal stuff though
[10:26] <Name141> When is the estimated month for the next ubuntu release? April ?
[10:26] <nightshade209> Name141: yes
[10:26] <vivekimsit> ubottu:ok! I have some problem in cron! the changes are not reflected manually..
[10:26] <SockPants> i'm trying to use grep to search text files for the string: $user['id']
[10:26] <SockPants> so i used grep -R '$user['\''id'\'']' .
[10:27] <Name141> nightshade209: Will it be a LTS or regular?
[10:27] <SockPants> but that doesn't work
[10:27] <SockPants> how can i do this?
[10:27] <almoxarife> how do i detach quassel chat windows?
[10:27] <nightshade209> Name141: i think its an LTS
[10:27] <nightshade209> Name141: checking
[10:28] <xiangzi> how can i package a image file with mkyaffs2image?
[10:28] <nightshade209> Name141: one sec
[10:28] <Azjo> Name141: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[10:28] <nightshade209> Name141: yup, LTS
[10:29] <nightshade209>  SockPants: did you mistype the " and '
[10:29] <nightshade209>  SockPants: ?
[10:29] <nightshade209>  SockPants: check your post
[10:29] <almoxarife> does 'grep' have a gui?
[10:30] <Nickinator> nope,
[10:30] <Nickinator> Grep's a simple enough to use command,
[10:30] <Nickinator> and you can pipe it to a text file that I guess you could use in a GUI
[10:31] <Nickinator> Why are you looking for one, is grep too complex or are you looking for something else?
[10:32] <SockPants> nightshade209: when do i need to use " and '?
[10:32] <bal> my system hanged  so need restart
[10:32] <nightshade209> SockPants: you used grep -R '$user['\''id'\'']'
[10:32] <nightshade209> SockPants: the opening and closing ones are not matched
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[10:33] <nightshade209> bal: yes?
[10:33] <almoxarife> !info grepui
[10:34] <tiels0> hi guys, i was tried to install oss-v4 on my ubuntu 10.10, and gstreamer-properties don't launching :(
[10:34] <iPeter> need help to start guy from terminal in ubuntu server
[10:35] <bal> what i have to do when you gave me some cmd "sudo -dpkg -a -configure " i din't get becouse of system stucked.
[10:35] <iceroot> iPeter: sudo service gdm start
[10:35] <iceroot> iPeter: or lightdm (depending on your ubuntu-version)
[10:35] <nightshade209> bal: try it now
[10:35] <bal> i think what i typed is error pls give me correct one?
[10:35] <SockPants> nightshade209: i'm not sure what you mean, i only used single quotes
[10:36] <iceroot> bal: its called "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[10:36] <nightshade209> bal: sudo -dpkg -a --configure
[10:36] <iceroot> nightshade209: not -dpkg
[10:36] <nightshade209> SockPants: oh ok, my bad
[10:36] <Knorre> nightshade209: the upgrading finished, but i still get problems trying to install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[10:36] <Knorre> "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:36] <Knorre>  gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme"
[10:36] <nightshade209> iceroot: bal: sorry
[10:36] <iceroot> nightshade209: np
[10:37] <nightshade209> Knorre: does it give the dependency package?
[10:37] <Knorre> nightshade209: http://pastebin.com/C9fSgi8c
[10:37] <Knorre> this is the full output, although not from my console.
[10:38] <almoxarife> Knorre: from a ppa?
[10:38] <nightshade209> Knorre: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-common gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[10:38] <bal> y?
[10:38] <Knorre> yes almoxarife i think so
[10:38] <almoxarife> Knorre: that was the cause
[10:39] <nightshade209> Knorre: the ppa might have gotten deselected during the upgrade, check under Software Sources
[10:40] <gringoire> Hey there, quick question - what is the default root pass for the user 'ubuntu'?
[10:40] <Knorre> nightshade209: i re-added the ppas after upgrading
[10:40] <oCean> gringoire: there is none
[10:40] <gringoire> I installed it persistant on a usb,
[10:40] <Knorre> also, your command gave me a different output - let me pastebin it
[10:40] <gringoire> oCean: thanks, let me try
[10:40] <oCean> gringoire: no, the account is not enabled
[10:40] <oCean> !sudo | gringoire
[10:40] <gringoire> oCean: It works, thanks!
[10:40] <gringoire> Hm?
[10:41] <gringoire> I'm talking about the persistant install on usb, I'm logged as 'ubuntu' by default
[10:41] <Knorre> nightshade209: http://pastebin.com/wSVP2vzB
[10:41] <gringoire> Empty password works
[10:41] <iPeter> need help to start guy from terminal in ubuntu server
[10:42] <iPeter> what is the command start doesn't work
[10:43] <[6502]> hello... I'm using gnome and I've this annoying bug: when a program is started from a keyboard shortcut most often (but not always) the windows comes up on top, but without keyboard focus. For example I type ctrl-alt-c to start chrome and when I'm typing in the url right after indeed I'm modifying the text of the text editor behind it. Is there any way to force the focus to get to the program I just launched?
[10:43] <nightshade209> Knorre: umm, sorry, can't think of anything right now
[10:43] <Knorre> np, i'll look further
[10:44] <Knorre> thanks
[10:44] <almoxarife> Knorre: see the conflict between the base system and the ppa? uninstall the conflict app, uncheck the ppa, install the app
[10:45] <almoxarife> Knorre: there may be more conflicts down the road though, cant tell
[10:46] <iceroot> iPeter: i already gave you the command
[10:47] <almoxarife> Knorre: by the way, the gui 'synaptic is an excellent way to see where the conflicts are going to arise, but then its not as sexy as terminal, makes it much easier to disable ppas in a pinch too
[10:48] <afidegnum> hello, I have created a DMZ to my PC, but noting seems working
[10:48] <afidegnum> DoctorD: are you there pls?
[10:49] <almoxarife> afidegnum: what was the dmz suppose to allow to happen that did not?
[10:49] <afidegnum> well, with a new dsl router installed, filezilla is not working
[10:49] <DoctorD> afidegnum: yes
[10:50] <afidegnum> ok, I have added my IP address to DMZ
[10:50] <DoctorD> dmz, alright, you are sure that you pointed correctly ?
[10:50] <afidegnum> and it didn't change anything
[10:50] <afidegnum> yes
[10:50] <DoctorD> give it a restart and then see if it works
[10:50] <DoctorD> restart to the router of course
[10:52] <cakery> best window manager?
[10:52] <MonkeyDust> !best| cakery
[10:53] <matt23> how can i boot verbose instead of with splash at startup? ps, rightn ow it only boots a plain black screen
[10:53] <cakery> what's a usable window manager?
[10:54] <almoxarife> cakery: depends on what you want it for, ease or configuration
[10:54] <cakery> ease
[10:54] <almoxarife> cakery: or bling
[10:55] <Pino> maurizio???
[10:55] <almoxarife> cakery: the default unity on ubuntu is easy
[10:56] <Knorre> almoxarife: different error now, how about this? http://pastebin.com/sc9R1k1u
[10:56] <gringoire> Also, another question - I'm getting "Unable to enumerate usb device on port 2", and I'm almost sure it's my webcam. Ideas on how to make it go away?
[10:56] <gringoire> It fills all tty's, making them unusable, I can't see anything
[10:57] <pascal_> Hi, someone know if Firestarter and dhcp3 no longer work together. i run ubuntu 11.04 server with 2 network interfaces eth0 and eth1
[10:58] <almoxarife> Knorre: same error, what you have there is a cascade effect from the ppa's apps, was this from an upgrade?
[10:58] <Knorre> almoxarife: can be, i just upgraded
[10:58] <Knorre> should i reboot?
[10:58] <almoxarife> Knorre: no!
[10:59] <almoxarife> Knorre: did you install synaptic?
[10:59] <Knorre> why not?
[10:59] <Knorre> no
[10:59] <Knorre> i dont think so
[10:59] <almoxarife> Knorre: because you may return to no screen?
[11:00] <ffk27_> !best
[11:00] <Knorre> okay i feel the need to put this disclaimer out - i started using linux this week, so i don't know anything
[11:00] <Knorre> i don't know what you mean by "no screen"
[11:01] <nightshade209> Knorre: your system might not be very usable if you reboot
[11:01] <Knorre> i see
[11:01] <Knorre> so what can i do to prevent that?
[11:01] <nightshade209> Knorre: don't reboot until you resolve the issue
[11:01] <almoxarife> Knorre: would you install synaptic
[11:01] <Knorre> apt-get install synaptic?
[11:01] <almoxarife> Knorre: sure
[11:01] <ffk27_> Knorre: whats your question?
[11:02] <Knorre> ffk27_: http://pastebin.com/sc9R1k1u
[11:02] <Knorre> isntallign synaptic
[11:02] <ffk27_> knorre: you cant use dpkg now anymore?
[11:03] <Knorre> ..what's dpkg
[11:03] <Knorre> almoxarife: done installing synaptic, what now?
[11:03] <ffk27_> apt-get
[11:03] <almoxarife> Knorre: here is what has to happen, the ppa has to be purged, to purge it unless you want to get all terminal on it you will need Y-ppa-manager
[11:04] <Shakyj> Hey, I am running ubuntu 11.10 with unity and I don't seem to be able to drag and drop :/
[11:04] <nightshade209> almoxarife: how about disabling the PPA and doing and apt-get autoremove?
[11:05] <cakery> almoxarife, thanks :) where can I learn how to use it :(
[11:05] <MonkeyDust> Shakyj  from where to where?
[11:05] <almoxarife> Knorre: got it?
[11:05] <karthick87> Error in puppet client, how to resolve it? err: Could not run Puppet configuration client: Could not retrieve local facts: bad URI(is not URI?): http://169.254.169.254/2008-02-01/meta-data/<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>HTTP access denied</TITLE></HEAD><BODY><img src/
[11:06] <almoxarife> cakery: :)
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> cakery  you learn it, by using it, like you did for Windows
[11:06] <Shakyj> MonkeyDust, one folder to another or to the desktop
[11:06] <afidegnum> DoctorD: still no show,
[11:06] <Shakyj> MonkeyDust, last one I tried was to drag one file into a folder
[11:06] <afidegnum> despites many configuration attempts, I still cannot get a good result,
[11:06] <DoctorD> afidegnum: ok, did you tried to use virtual server ? to point to your ip address the ports you need ?
[11:07] <Knorre> almoxarife: unable to locate Y-ppa-manager
[11:07] <sveinse> Hi. I'm trying to apt-get into a staging directory. I've used the apt config option RootDir to prefix into the staging. Then I do apt-get update which downloads the indexes to the staging dir, however it fails at the end as it tries to access /var/lib/dpkg/lock without the staging dir prefix. Bug?
[11:07] <afidegnum> ok, let me try that one too and see....
[11:07] <almoxarife> Knorre: need the ppa for it
[11:07] <Knorre> which one is it
[11:07] <DoctorD> disable DMZ and use virtual server. ip: port for each software and see if it works. also, give it a reboot
[11:08] <DoctorD> after you finish.
[11:08] <Knorre> got the ppa, almoxarife
[11:08] <Knorre> :)
[11:08] <almoxarife> Knorre: using synaptic?
[11:08] <nightshade209> sveinse: how about chrooting into it?
[11:08] <pascal_> Hi, someone know if the Firestarter setup guide with dhcp no longer work or if its just here it wont work. I run ubuntu 11.04 server with 2 network interfaces eth0 and eth1
[11:09] <sveinse> nightshade209: I want to avoid root. Perhaps fakeroot chroot apt-get works...
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> Shakyj  just tried, opened two windows, no prob dragging, couldnt say why you cant
[11:10] <Knorre> almoxarife: i'm installing y-ppa-manager now through the terminal
[11:10] <Shakyj> MonkeyDust, Thanks, strange one then. Going to have to test it more when I have some time. I'll stick to the term for now then :)
[11:10] <nightshade209> sveinse: sorry, no experience with a fakeroot :(
[11:11] <sveinse> nightshade209: Hmm. If using chroot, you need to install all tools and libs, like apt-get into the chroot...
[11:11] <nightshade209> sveinse: oh ok..
[11:11] <germanxn> hi
[11:11] <germanxn> i need help
[11:11] <almoxarife> Knorre: you can bring up y-ppa-mamager thru terminal, this is the '0% warranty statement' part , the purge has to happen, and it may fix all your issues, or not, and i cant say otherwise, its an option, please decide
[11:12] <germanxn> my display shows input not supported
[11:12] <matt23> how to get a verbose boot instead of the splash?
[11:12] <Knorre> almoxarife: let's do it - i'm running it all in a VM anyway!
[11:12] <germanxn> this started trying to set resolution at 800x600
[11:13] <almoxarife> Knorre: in the manager you want to purge the ppa that most effects gnome-shell, the one you see listed causing the errors
[11:14] <germanxn> how could i set startup resolution?
[11:14] <almoxarife> Knorre: webupd8~oneiric
[11:14] <ffk27_> rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ to remove a ppa
[11:14] <germanxn> root user log ok
[11:15] <Knorre> almoxarife: how do i bring up the manager?
[11:15] <almoxarife> Knorre: in terminal          y-ppa-manager
[11:15] <Knorre> i launched it through ubuntu's interface.. i feel so stupid :(
[11:16] <almoxarife> Knorre: leave the defaults set
[11:16] <almoxarife> Knorre: i am no purist, i like gui
[11:16] <Knorre> almoxarife: thank god.. my colleague would burn me if he knew, haha.
[11:17] <buzzmandt> Do not fear the terminal
[11:17] <Knorre> i remove a ppa with y, yes?
[11:17] <almoxarife> Knorre: no!
[11:17] <Knorre> then what?
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> <3 terminal
[11:17] <almoxarife> Knorre: not remove, 'purge'
[11:18] <Knorre> ooh
[11:18] <Knorre> hey almoxarife, i see 2 versions of that webupd8 thing
[11:18] <almoxarife> Knorre: if this was about removing we be done long ago
[11:18] <almoxarife> Knorre: one of them is the y-ppa-manager
[11:19] <Knorre> no no i mean the ppa i'm going to purge
[11:19] <Knorre> there's 2 versions
[11:19] <Knorre> one by gnome team
[11:19] <Knorre> one by webupd8 team
[11:19] <almoxarife> Knorre: the web8 is the problem one
[11:20] <Knorre> almoxarife: purging
[11:20] <almoxarife> Knorre: but there should be two ppa from web8, the last one was the ppa-manager
[11:21] <almoxarife> Knorre: after the purge a re-boot might be in order
[11:21] <Knorre> i'll do that now almoxarife, let's hope i still have a machine afterwards haha
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> Knorre  also consider using ubuntu-tweak, to remove ppa's http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[11:21] <j03> is this the help chan?
[11:21] <buzzmandt> Yes
[11:22] <Knorre> MonkeyDust: thanks for the tip, but y-ppa-manager works fine imo :)
[11:22] <germanxn> where is user dependant X11 resolution saved?
[11:23] <j03> Thanks and giga-props to you all. I purchased Fluendo through the software center ealrier on 11.10 and I just switched to 10.04 and when I search for it it wont show up. Do I need to add a certain software source?
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> j03  it is
[11:23] <j03> Fluendo DVD
[11:24] <Ibis> Is it a little bit bothersome to install Wine on Linux? In my experience, some natural Linux behaviors seems to change.
[11:24] <nightshade209> Ibis: really? like what?
[11:24] <Culiforge> Hi all, so I passed an update and now after wrestling to start the correct kernel with grub (I think that's part of the problem) I am unable to access any admin functions.. (sudo.. apt.. sources.. etc)
[11:25] <Ibis> nightshade209: Like "Open with".
[11:25] <throstur> I just make modules while trying to install a newer kernel on my machine, but now the screen is black!
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> Ibis  yes, i don't use wine, but some people see changes in their Firefox after wine is intalled
[11:25] <j03> Also, do I need to do anything special to re-install it as far as the license goes?
[11:25] <almoxarife> Ibis: the install is easy enough, removal as easy
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> Ibis  (just an example)
[11:25] <buzzmandt> Ibis. I recomend playonlinux. www.playonlinux.com. download the latest deb and install it. It is better than the one n the repos
[11:25] <nightshade209>  Ibis: that's just the associations...  you learn to ignore it..
[11:25] <Ibis> It's kinda weird. Tolerable, but
[11:25] <nightshade209>  Ibis: ya, true..
[11:26] <germanxn> is something wrong with my questions? :-(
[11:26] <Knorre> almoxarife: my machine is still alive :D ill try installing user-theme agian
[11:26] <nightshade209> germanxn: no, it's not... it's just that no one might know the answers
[11:27] <j03> I looked and didn't see any particular software source that wasn't already selected in 10.04
[11:27] <almoxarife> Knorre: anyone can add crap to a ppa it seems
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> Knorre  almoxarife that's why i don't use ppa's :)
[11:27] <nightshade209> MonkeyDust: ya, but there's some really good stuff that's not in the repos
[11:28] <Knorre> almoxarife: still the same error... i should just purge everything lol
[11:28] <nightshade209> MonkeyDust: like ubuntu tweak for one
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> nightshade209  got me there :)
[11:28] <domedagen> Anyone in here knows the answer to this thread? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/cant-boot-from-same-the-device-that-ubuntu-is-installed-on-922276/
[11:28] <nightshade209> MonkeyDust: i wouldn't install it too, but the repos are updated too slowly, esp for browsers and stuff
[11:28] <almoxarife> Knorre: pastebin it
[11:28] <nightshade209> MonkeyDust: i HAVE to use the latest version :P
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> nightshade209  i used a daily build for Firefox, once, and it ruined my system, now ubuntu-tweak is the only ppa I trust
[11:29] <Knorre> almoxarife: you are not going to believe this
[11:29] <Knorre> i actually installed 3 versions
[11:30] <Knorre> of the same PPA
[11:30] <afidegnum> DoctorD: I did everything, still not working, Connection timed outError:	Could not connect to server
[11:30]  * Knorre cries silently in a corner
[11:30] <nightshade209> MonkeyDust: afraid i still havent learnt the lesson... tho i just download firefox manually
[11:30] <j03> domedagen you might need to install grub on the SSD or even boot into Super-Grub Disk and then do "Update-grub" maybe?
[11:30] <almoxarife> Knorre: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[11:31] <Ibis> buzzmandt: Lol, too late, I installed Wine first, but now I'm installing PlayonLinux.
[11:31] <Knorre> almoxarife: it's still http://pastebin.com/sc9R1k1u
[11:31] <Knorre> :)
[11:31] <Ibis> Thanks guys.           Playonlinux looks cleaner.
[11:31] <almoxarife> Knorre: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[11:32] <j03> can anyone help me. I just need to know what software source to add so I can reinstall Fluendo DVD, plz :)
[11:32] <Ibis> germanxn: Ask a better question.
[11:32] <domedagen> j03: What do you mean install GRUB?
[11:32] <Ibis> Or it could be that no one has the answer to it at this moment.
[11:32] <almoxarife> Knorre: paste and run         sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> !info fluendo | j03
[11:33] <almoxarife> Knorre: then share the link
[11:33] <j03> can I add it?
[11:33] <j03> somehow
[11:33] <germanxn> for some reason, "input not supported" appears when i use 800x600 resolution
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> j03  if it is not in the repos, it is not supported on the channel
[11:33] <Meltinpot> hi men!
[11:34] <j03> oh, sorry
[11:34] <buzzmandt> Ibis. Thats fine i usually do wone first.  Playonlinux is getting really good lately though.
[11:34] <almoxarife> germanxn: your monitor cant use that resolution, that is the error anyway
[11:35] <buzzmandt> Wine i mean lol
[11:35] <germanxn> getting around that, my user end up with 800x600, so my display shows "input no supported"
[11:35] <j03> domedagen I mean maybe installing GRUB on the SSD instead of the HDD
[11:35] <germanxn> i know my monitor support that resolution
[11:35] <germanxn> i used it many times
[11:35] <nightshade209> germanxn: it might support on the desktop, but when booting up, the system usually uses a lower resolution
[11:36] <germanxn> the problem is in the desktop
[11:36] <germanxn> it boot up with 1280x1024
[11:36] <j03> just one more question. If I'm back in 11.10 and I need to re-install Fluendo through the software center where I got it is it just a matter of logging in and then it will be avaialble?
[11:36] <germanxn> (login screen)
[11:36] <nightshade209> germanxn: :| oh
[11:37] <linux> hello!
[11:37] <txomon> hi!, when computer autologins, is it supposed to run all that appears in /etc/xdg/autostart ?
[11:37] <almoxarife> germanxn: share your xorg.0.log
[11:37] <linux> hello!
[11:37] <txomon> hi li
[11:37] <txomon> linux*
[11:37] <linux> is here any body?
[11:38] <nightshade209> linux: ya, quite a few people, in fact
[11:38] <buzzmandt> Lnux lots
[11:38] <linux> i'm chinese
[11:38] <linux> is here a chinese ?
[11:38] <oCean> !cn | linux
[11:38] <j03> I mean I purchased it through software center in 11.10 so when I switch to a new 11.10 install do I just go to software center and login or something and then install again?
[11:38] <buzzmandt> Little buttons on my droid grrr
[11:38] <navis> hi all
[11:38] <linux> hi all
[11:39] <navis> I have a problem to enable wifi on an hp g7 laptop
[11:39] <buzzmandt> Navis. What is the wifi card?
[11:39] <nightshade209> j03: ya, u'll need to use the same login
[11:39] <navis> I think that the problem is in the hardware wifi switch, which is on the F12 function key
[11:40] <linux> heheheheh
[11:40] <linux> do you konw what is "heheheheh"?
[11:40] <navis> supposedly enabled with Fn-F12
[11:40] <oCean> linux: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[11:40] <j03> Great! Thanks! :)
[11:40] <linux> yes
[11:40] <germanxn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/794758/
[11:40] <navis> but this produces output on my terminal instead of enabling the wifi
[11:40] <nightshade209> j03: :)
[11:40] <buzzmandt> Navis. Whats the card?
[11:41] <linux> but my  english is so bad
[11:41] <navis> atheros
[11:41] <oCean> linux: /join #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[11:41] <j03> I just purchased a System76.com lappy and can't wait for the unbox!!!
[11:41] <linux> i want study english
[11:41] <navis> buzzmandt: atheros, managet through ath9k
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> linux  wrong channel
[11:41] <oCean> linux: this channel is for support, not general chat
[11:41] <linux> do you know where i should go
[11:41] <navis> buzzmandt: hem, managed
[11:41] <j03> Up to 32GBs of RAM on a laptop!
[11:41] <j03> ok I'm done :)
[11:42] <linux> hao to change channel
[11:42] <j03> lol
[11:42] <oCean> linux: try /join ##English
[11:42] <buzzmandt> Not sure. It should just work.
[11:43] <linux> oh think you!
[11:43] <j03> So awesome! http://www.system76.com/laptops/model/bonobo
[11:44] <j03> :)
[11:44] <almoxarife> germanxn: nvidia user settings configured?
[11:44] <afidegnum> DoctorD: is there a way to browse via different IP address or via VPN?
[11:44] <navis> yep, lshw recognises it, but disabled
[11:44] <oCean> j03: please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[11:44] <afidegnum> I I am still trying to trace the issue
[11:44] <j03> ok, :)
[11:44] <j03> Thanks peeps!
[11:45] <navis> and rfkill shows it as hardware disabled, so I can't enable it in software
[11:45] <almoxarife> afidegnum: you behind a firewall you dont control? try tor-browser
[11:45] <navis> for some reason the Fn-F12 combination seems to be intercepted by ubuntu
[11:45] <buzzmandt> Navis what does lspci show it as?
[11:45] <afidegnum> no, using ftp
[11:46] <afidegnum> my browser is perfectly working
[11:46] <afidegnum> only the ftp is not working
[11:47] <almoxarife> afidegnum: not working how?
[11:47] <navis> buzzmandt: AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev ff)
[11:47] <afidegnum> almoxarife: hmm iit's a painful day
[11:47] <afidegnum> this is a network of 15 computers with wireless connectivity as well
[11:47] <afidegnum> this morning,  a new moded was added,
[11:48] <afidegnum> from there, I can't use filezilla
[11:48] <almoxarife> afidegnum: filezilla as a client?
[11:48] <afidegnum> I tried all possible means, from DMZ to fort forwarding
[11:48] <dvorak_> Hi there! Can someone tell me please how do I display on the console the value returned by a function? Specifically, "test -n $a" ?
[11:48] <afidegnum> and no luch
[11:48] <almoxarife> afidegnum: filezilla as a client?
[11:48] <navis> buzzmandt: ids 168c:0032
[11:48] <germanxn> i think it is. i started "nvidia  X server settings", detect displays and save to x configuration file
[11:48] <afidegnum> yes, I am using filezilla client
[11:49] <almoxarife> afidegnum: to acess what host? inside or outside your net?
[11:49] <buzzmandt> Navis have a look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1682285
[11:49] <germanxn> when i login with root user on gnome it start with 1280x1024
[11:49] <afidegnum> almoxarife: I am trying to access an FTP server wher I am developing a website
[11:49] <throstur> how do i update kernel?
[11:49] <afidegnum> a host outside our network
[11:49] <almoxarife> afidegnum: can you ping that host?
[11:50] <iceroot> throstur: update or upgrade?
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> throstur  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Upgrade?action=show&redirect=UpgradeKernel
[11:50] <afidegnum> when pinged, the host is working
[11:50] <iceroot> germanxn: dont!! use gnome as root
[11:51] <afidegnum>  Connection timed outError:	Could not connect to server
[11:51] <germanxn> but when i login with my regular user it shows "input not supported"
[11:51] <afidegnum> taht is the error I am getting from filezilla
[11:51] <afidegnum> I tried other servers as well,
[11:51] <throstur> thanks
[11:51] <almoxarife> afidegnum: is the host a web adress or ip?
[11:51] <afidegnum> the same result appears
[11:51] <iceroot> afidegnum: is ftp/sftp running on the other site?
[11:51] <throstur> compiling it myself is stupid
[11:51] <germanxn> its this or nothing.. :-(
[11:51] <germanxn> i tryed to repair it my self
[11:51] <germanxn> but i cant
[11:52] <iceroot> throstur: why do you need a kernel-upgrade?
[11:52] <afidegnum> yes, I have been using it not to day
[11:52] <almoxarife> iceroot: thats a good question :)
[11:52] <afidegnum> just this morning, everyghing is messing up
[11:52] <pascal_> Hi, someone know if the Firestarter setup guide with dhcp no longer work or if its just here it wont work. I run ubuntu 11.04 server with 2 network interfaces eth0 and eth1
[11:52] <akpk> I have issue with Bluetooth in my Ubuntu 11.10 (Bluetooth 3.0)
[11:52] <throstur> my driver is incompatible with this version
[11:52] <akpk> Please Help!
[11:52] <throstur> I have very new hardware
[11:52] <iceroot> !details | akpk
[11:52] <almoxarife> afidegnum: what is the firewall set to as far as 'allowed out' permissions?
[11:53] <iceroot> !backports | throstur
[11:53] <akpk>  I have issue with Bluetooth in my Ubuntu 11.10 (Bluetooth 3.0) Please Help !!
[11:53] <iceroot> almoxarife: again, please post usefull details
[11:53] <iceroot> almoxarife: wrong nick
[11:53] <iceroot> akpk: please post usefull details
[11:54] <nightshade209> akpk: describe the problem
[11:54] <akpk> icerrot : I can't enable Bluetooth
[11:54] <iceroot> akpk: why?
[11:54] <almoxarife> iceroot: it was a statement, no it was meant for you, and yes, it was a useless comment, you wont see one from me again
[11:54] <iceroot> akpk: you dont know how? the device is not detected?
[11:54] <throstur> ubottu: I don't think ubuntu would make a build specifically for what I'm doing
[11:54] <iceroot> almoxarife: no i just put the wrong nick in front of my text
[11:55] <iceroot> throstur: depending on the problem
[11:55] <germanxn> no one where the user resolution comes from??
[11:55] <iceroot> throstur: if it will affect others to, there is a chance
[11:55] <germanxn> no one knows where the user resolution comes from??
[11:55] <iceroot> germanxn: dont!! use gnome as root
[11:55] <iceroot> germanxn: no need to debug that
[11:55] <akpk> I can right click on bluetooth ch devices.con (near time ans sound) but i cant se
[11:56] <akpk> iceroot : How can I check the issue ??
[11:56] <germanxn> if dont use gnome as root then i have to turn off the computer
[11:56] <germanxn> i cant log with regular user!
[11:56] <nightshade209> germanxn: this helps? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution
[11:56] <iceroot> !who | germanxn
[11:56] <throstur> well if you must know I'm doing penetration testing on my network and my laptop needs the b43 driver - however my chipset is not compatible with backtrack's kernel and the one in ubuntu is outdated
[11:56] <iceroot> germanxn: is another user able to login?
[11:56] <almoxarife> germanxn: it comes from the settings of that nvidia card configuration app, look in 'system preferences'??
 : My bluetooth is not detected/
[11:57] <iceroot> throstur: which ubuntu-version?
[11:57] <throstur> the latest one that comes with wubi
[11:57] <iceroot> throstur: that means 11.10?
[11:57] <throstur> yes
[11:57] <peto_> hello
[11:57] <iceroot> !info linux-iamge
[11:57] <Knorre> almoxarife: can i message you?
[11:58] <iceroot> !info linux-image
[11:58] <almoxarife> Knorre: wait one
[11:58] <iceroot> throstur: so you want 3.1 or 3.2 i guess
[11:58] <throstur> yes
[11:58] <iceroot> throstur: please put the name in front of a text
[11:58] <throstur> iceroot: ok
[11:58] <iceroot> throstur: 3.2 is build in 12.04
[11:58] <iceroot> throstur: but i dont think there is a driver for bc43 included
[11:58] <germanxn> ubottu: ok, sorry
[11:58] <almoxarife> Knorre: i just started using this client, i dont know how to allow pvt, try
[11:58] <akpk> iceroot : is therte anything wrong with bluetooth 3.0 and ubuntu 11.10 ???
[11:59] <iceroot> !broadcom | germanxn
[11:59] <iceroot> akpk: not that i know
[11:59] <iceroot> throstur: normally you dont need 3.2 for that
[11:59] <iceroot> throstur: bc43 devices has nonfree-firmware and cant be included into the kernel (see message from ubottu how to fix that)
[11:59] <throstur> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices I'm using BCM43225
[12:00] <broglin> I am having trouble getting my netbook to connect reliably to a wifi network (Samsung N150P/ubuntu 11.10). How do I troubleshoot that?
[12:00] <iceroot> throstur: the firmware is the problem, not the driver
[12:00] <broglin> I'm using xfce
 :  is therte anything wrong with bluetooth 3.0 and ubuntu 11.10 ???
[12:00] <throstur> iceroot: right, so I need to update the kernel and download new firmware, is that correct?
[12:01] <throstur> ie get the newer ubuntu
[12:01] <peto_> i7 Sandy Bridge processor consumes more than twice the power in Ubuntu than in Windows 7 --> 41 W vs. 20 W. Why?
[12:01] <iceroot> throstur: no need for a newer kernel
[12:01] <nightshade209> akpk: sorry, no idea... i don't use bluetooth on it...
[12:01] <iceroot> throstur: and normally ubuntu will over the specific firmware-download
[12:01] <broglin> the card is a BCM4313
[12:01] <akpk> :-)
[12:01] <iceroot> peto_: because your mainboard-manufactor is not using standards
[12:02] <iceroot> peto_: so the kernel-hackers deactivated some features which are not standard
[12:02] <akpk> Anyone know why my bluetooth 3.o (onboard) is not working with Ubuntu 11.10 ??
[12:02] <iceroot> peto_: imo fixed in linux3.2
[12:02] <throstur> broglin: if you're talking to me, I have 4357 not 4313
[12:02] <peto_> iceroot, the computer is a DELL
[12:02] <iceroot> peto_: and?
[12:02] <broglin> throstur: no, I have trouble with my card, and it's a 4313 :-(
[12:02] <broglin> but nobody has replied yet... :'(
[12:02] <throstur> oh okay, it's probably not supported
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> !bcm| broglin
[12:02] <throstur> http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices
[12:02] <throstur> broglin: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices
[12:03] <peto_> iceroot, the fact is I don't like Windows 7 as much as Ubuntu, but if Ubuntu consumes twice the power then I prefer to use Windows 7
[12:03] <throstur> iceroot: the b43 list of supported devices states that kernel 3.1+ is necessary but ubuntu 11.10 uses a slightly older kernel - how come I don't need to get a new kernel?
[12:04] <craigbass1976> I installed openbravo a couple days ago from the repos.  Is there a way I can go look and see what was installed when openbravo was?  Some packages I already had, but I want to see what I didn't already have.
[12:04] <throstur> peto_: I have noticed that my 7-9 hour battery lasts about 3 hours with ubuntu, it's a damn shame
[12:04] <kanupatar> hi guys, this is my out put of ps -ax..can u help me to find any GUI related(X server or similar) process from it ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/794780/
[12:05] <broglin> throstur: thanks. but I'm actually using the brcmsmac driver, not b43
[12:05] <peto_> throstur, that is what happen to me, perhaps because Ubuntu does not manage Turbo Boost, or perhaps because Ubuntu doesn't use the integrate graphics card
[12:06] <broglin> also, the wifi card can see the access points, but the problem is that networking either doesn't work (no internet, telnet to open ports on remote servers just hang) or works very intermittently
[12:06] <broglin> and frequently disconnects
[12:06] <iceroot> throstur: ah 3.1, ok
[12:06] <throstur> peto_: maybe it's because when I run windows I usually just have chrome and one IDE open but when I run ubuntu I have a lot of stuff happening
[12:06] <iceroot> throstur: have a look at the backports if 3.1 or 3.2 is there
[12:06] <throstur> !backports
[12:07] <afidegnum> hello, I have been trying hard, and no success, any answer so far?
[12:07] <broglin> can anyone help? I don't even know if this is a hardware/driver issue or if network manager is doing something funky
[12:08] <peto_> throstur, that's not my case... The 20 W vs 42 W happens in the more common state of my computer, that is, when it is under a low state of activity
[12:08] <kanupatar> hi guys, this is my out put of ps -ax..can u help me to find any GUI related(X server or similar) process from it ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/794780/
[12:09] <dannel> kanupatar, no
[12:09] <afidegnum> almoxarife: the firewall was disabled by default
[12:10] <throstur> when will ubuntu 12.10 be released?
[12:10] <nightshade209> throstur: this october
[12:10] <dannel> throstur, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases
[12:10] <fidel> throstur: the versioning should tell it already ;)
[12:10] <fidel> year 12 - month 10
[12:10] <fidel> means: somewhere in 2012.10.xx
[12:10] <peto_> let's hope
[12:11] <dannel> so ubuntu never delays a release?
[12:11] <dannel> now it all makes sense!
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> throstur  oct 18 2012
[12:11] <dannel> canonical, even
[12:11] <throstur> my bad, it's 12.04
[12:12] <fidel> 2012.04.xx then ;)
[12:12] <throstur> is it normal for the update manager to hand on "Waiting for apt-get to exit" ?
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> apr 26 2012
[12:12] <almoxarife> afidegnum: thats odd then, because out to where you have been in the past is where you cant go now, can you verify the firewall is allowing out?
[12:12] <fidel> throstur: yes thats some kind of auto-lock
[12:12] <fidel> you cant run multiple apt-processes at once
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> throstur  yes, you cannot run two update managers
[12:12] <throstur> but I'm not running any others
[12:12] <dannel> the update manager is just a façade to apt-get
[12:13] <fidel> throstur: most likely you are - use grep to check it ;)
[12:13] <throstur> I'll just restart
[12:13] <fidel> lol
[12:13] <dannel> -.-
[12:13] <fidel> that doesnt help learning/understanding that part but ok
[12:14] <dannel> why learn to use the power button, just buy a new computer !:P
[12:14] <DaDink> @throstur, you are talking like a Windows user, now. ;-)
[12:14] <throstur> was compining a kernel earlier so if apt-get is still running then it's probably still doing stuff I don't like
[12:14] <fidel> DaDink: and you like a fanboy from the other side ;)
[12:14] <throstur> DaDink: well, I primarily am, we don't use linux in our university
[12:16] <akpk> Bluetooth is not working in my Ubuntu 11.10
[12:16] <throstur> DaDink: if it's any consolation, I use a dvorak for typing
[12:16] <dannel> that's a shame :-\
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> throstur  off-topic: http://xdatap1.wordpress.com/2010/03/17/university-of-siena-continue-migrating-to-ubuntu/
[12:18] <throstur> MonkeyDust: that's pretty neat
[12:19] <dannel> one linux machine in every classroom by 2009!
[12:20] <dannel> and wow, that room looks really cosy.. i'd be tempted to curl up and sleep on the rug
[12:24] <gulzar> anybody can guess which kwin theme is this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Workspace-Strap+Effect?content=143857&PHPSESSID=caa977854bc8894e12f927e1e5c6e875 ?
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> gulzar  wrong channel
[12:26] <anohigisavay> aya
[12:26] <anohigisavay> i guess. not familiar with kde
[12:28] <gulzar> MonkeyDust: Ok
[12:31] <dyd__> i have my xp machine connected to the wifi, i've shared that connection, my ubuntu laptop is connected via ethernet directly to the win machiine (inverted cable) and i've set ip adresses correctly (i can ping each other) and on ubuntu machine gateway is win's ip and dns also. It's not working, what am i doing wrong?
[12:34] <loganRun> I am trying to install the latest daily build for chromium. I added the repositories and did apt-get update, but I can't seem to install the latest daily build. is there a way to list all versions of a program or something. I think apt-get install is just using some other repository with an older version
[12:35] <fidel> loganRun: apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME might help
[12:35] <godos> i have an overscan problem to my tv out
[12:35] <godos> hdmi
[12:36] <godos> how can i fix it???
[12:36] <godos> ati 5450
[12:36] <godos> i have a clone monitor with my tv
[12:36] <godos> same resolution but my tv is cutting the picture from the sides
[12:37] <loganRun> fidel: that seems to just show the wrong archive
[12:37] <iceroot> loganRun: apt-cache policy packagename
[12:38] <iceroot> loganRun: then your daily-build has another name, use "apt-cache search foobar" to find out the correct name
[12:38] <godos> anybody help me?
[12:38] <godos> :)
[12:39] <godos> i have the same problem on all distros
[12:39] <godos> i have tried
[12:40] <throstur2> !backports
[12:41] <godos> anybody?
[12:41] <throstur2> !packaging
[12:41] <throstur2> !backport
[12:42] <godos> anybody?????????????
[12:42] <fidel> loganRun: yes that command is supposed to show you which versions apt knowns based on your sources
[12:43] <godos> how can i fix overscan problem? hdmi out to panasonic 42'' tv
[12:43] <fidel> havent you asked for a list output?
[12:43] <godos> ok bye ubuntu
[12:43] <godos> :P
[12:45] <loganRun> got it, I add to do add-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily, not sure how that is different than adding the respsitories to the file manually
[12:46] <Olafur> good day, is this where i can get some help with ubuntu?
[12:46] <fidel> Olafur: yes
[12:47] <Olafur> ok, I am having problem with the sound, I just dont seem to be able to get any sound from my speakers
[12:47] <Incarus6> Hello, I've tried to enhance my boot splash a little and I thought I had tomake these settings in Pkymouth, but nothing changed and now I'm confused with Plymouth, usplash and grub2. Am I wrong? (using 11.10)
[12:48] <nightshade209> Olafur: can you give your hardware descriptions and ubuntu version?
[12:48] <loganRun> not sure what add-apt-repository does differently than editing /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:48] <throstur2> !kernel
[12:48] <nightshade209> loganRun: maybe importing the GPG key or something?
[12:48] <fidel> loganRun: maybe adding ppa-keys
[12:48] <loganRun> that could be
[12:49] <Olafur> nightshade209: Hardware is nVidia, and ubuntu 11.10
[12:49] <Culiforge> 10.04, I keep getting update errors returned. synaptic trying to install (or fix) sane-utils and pcmciautils
[12:49] <throstur2> how can I install a newer kernel without a full compile?
[12:49] <nightshade209> Olafur: ok, i don't have any experience with nVidia, but someone else might..
[12:49] <nightshade209> Olafur: hang around for a bit
[12:50] <Olafur> nightshade209: Im mot in a hurry :)
[12:50] <nightshade209> Olafur: :)
[12:51] <Culiforge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/794825/
[12:51] <Olafur> nightshade209: I used this command in terminal "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic" and it seems like it cant lock on something
[12:52] <bosyi> hi all. have anybody connect external monitor (1920+1080)  to netbook with intel gma 3150?
[12:52] <throstur2> how can I install a newer kernel without a full compile?
[12:52] <hilarie_> bleh, who knows stuff about time.. root@hilarie:~# ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com///// 6 Jan 19:50:06 ntpdate[29831]: step-systime: Operation not permitted
[12:53] <Mechdave> Olafur, make sure there are no updates or software installer  running
[12:53] <nightshade209> Olafur: i can't find anything called linux-restricted-modules-* on my system
[12:53] <mediajunkie> G'Day Gentlemen and Ladies.
[12:53] <mediajunkie> anybody had google address book not showing contacts in evolution with Onerric 11.10?
[12:54] <mediajunkie> It worked for some time and then they were gone.
[12:54] <robin0800> nightshade209, its extras not module
[12:54] <mediajunkie> This switch to 11.10 has been crazy, nothing but trouble
[12:55] <nightshade209> robin0800: sorry, sorry, getting sleepy i guess :(
[12:55] <Rookie407> hello all... im new to ubuntu and linux for that matter any good tips and pointers i should know about?
[12:55] <Olafur> Mechdave: no updates running or installs, just my web browser
[12:55] <Olafur> nightshade209: Well, I found a site on the web which recommended this action
[12:55] <fidel> Rookie407: regarding?
[12:55] <Rookie407> haha anything that would help me not feel like such a noob =P
[12:56] <Mechdave> Olafur, not even background?
[12:56] <DJones> !manual | Rookie407 This is a good starting point,
[12:56] <nightshade209> Rookie407: the best advice would be to use it
[12:57] <fidel> Rookie407: difficult to answer- personaly i would setup a linux-vm to play with it
[12:57] <iceroot> Rookie407: i guess one very important point is the way how software is installed in ubuntu
[12:57] <iceroot> !repos | Rookie407
[12:57] <iceroot> Rookie407: the first link from ubottu should be read
[12:58] <Rookie407> iceroot, that would be really good to know as it seems its much diff then windows
[12:58] <iceroot> Rookie407: it does
[12:58] <iceroot> Rookie407: but i a good way
[12:58] <Olafur> Mechdave: not so i know, I am not installing anything now and I already have updated the computer
[12:58] <fidel> Rookie407: it is - but worth getting used to it
[12:58] <fidel> but yeah the learning curve might look hard at the beginning
[12:58] <fidel> as with everything new & complex as an operating system ;)
[12:59] <Rookie407> deff i've been a windows user for well pretty much all my life since win 3.0 im ready to learn something new =)
[12:59] <iceroot> Rookie407: also very important to know is that ubuntu is not just a linux distribution, its a very big community with good forums, wikis, this chat and very nice and friendly people.
[12:59] <pksadiq> dragonslay: C-c C-b is the switch for erc
[13:00] <Incarus6> For anyone who is still interested in the solution: got it working now using http://paolobernardi.wordpress.com/2011/10/15/fix-plymouth-on-ubuntu-after-installing-nvidia-or-ati-proprietary-drivers-for-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric/
[13:00] <iceroot> Rookie407: if you have any questions about ubuntu feel free to ask here and dont be afraid to ask even "noob" questions
[13:00] <klaas> could it be that fdisk is screwing up partition tables on 2tb discs? using ubuntu lts
[13:00] <Rookie407> haha never afraid to ask the "noob" questions everyones a noob at one point =P
[13:00] <usr13> Rookie407: You're definately in the righjt place.  Linux and oss is a big world of learning experiences, and the learning curve is very steep.
[13:00] <iceroot> Rookie407: of cours
[13:01] <iceroot> usr13: but its not learning because you have to learn a lot but because you CAN learn a lot
[13:01] <fidel> Rookie407: in case you tend to test much & heavily - i would still consider a virtual playground (as in using a virtuel machine) as it might help learning without beeing afraid of wrecking your current os ;)
[13:02] <craigbass1976> Rookie407, wow, you must be as old as me.  3.0 ?
[13:02] <fidel> but i am a vm lover ;)
[13:02] <throstur2> iceroot: i was updated everything and asked the update manager for backports, but I'm still using the same kernel... do I have to compile it?
[13:02] <Culiforge> Rookie407: there's also #ubuntu-beginners. kinda quiet atm but nice peoples there as well
[13:02] <iceroot> throstur2: no need to compile the kernel
[13:02] <iceroot> !ppa | throstur2
[13:02] <usr13> iceroot: When  a MS user first gets into any Linux distro, he or her embarks on a pretty rich learning experience ... you have to admit.
[13:02] <Rookie407> so lets start with installing. lets say for the sake of android development how do i go about installing the java and android-sdk tools things like that?
[13:03] <usr13> *he or she  sorry....
[13:03] <iceroot> usr13: the same if you came from gnu/linux to windows
[13:03] <nightshade209> craigbass1976: Rookie407: you people are making me feel like a kid! :| win 3.0 is ANCIENT for me...
[13:03] <iceroot> usr13: so the learning is not because of ubuntu is hard
[13:03] <Incarus6> throstur2, which version are you planning to use?
[13:03] <iceroot> usr13: but because its different
[13:03] <Olafur> nightshade209: Any thoughts what is the problem?
[13:03] <Rookie407> craigbass1976, idk about old im only 25 but we was a poor fam when i was younger so when the world was on win 95 we were just geting 3.1
[13:03] <craigbass1976> nightshade209, dude, that was high falootin' back in the day.  I bet you never played Atari either....
[13:03] <usr13> iceroot: True
[13:04] <mediajunkie> Rookie407: I've worked with win... since its conception. ... all the way up to Vista., That took 1 day to get disgusted and made me switch to Linux in general for my desktop (Ubuntu is by far the most interesting community of all) I have never looked back since. but you will have to cut one day fully instead of going back and forth. Only then you will force yourself to learn the details of Linux in general to the point where you underst
[13:04] <mediajunkie> and its dynamics. It is worth doing.
[13:04] <craigbass1976> Rookie407, I installed it at the house (the android sdk) but it was a while ago.  I don't remember it being too much of a ruckus, but I've been at this a while now.
[13:04] <nightshade209> Olafur: not really, can't get lock seems to indicate more than one apt-get process... can't tell you beyond that
[13:05] <usr13> mediajunkie is correct, you have to use it to learn it.
[13:05] <nightshade209> craigbass1976: i have never even SEEN an Atari except in photos
[13:05] <iceroot> Rookie407: as you see, everyone is trying to help you and give suggestins, that is the spirit of ubuntu you will not find in any other linux-distro or on windows .)
[13:05] <Rookie407> =)
[13:05] <Olafur> nightshade209: oh well, thanks any way, ill keep google-ing the problem
[13:05] <biginttosh> iceroot, indeed
[13:05] <Rookie407> you deff dont find it on windows
[13:05] <nightshade209> Olafur: ok...
[13:05] <Culiforge> nightshade209: gosh, I feel kinda ancient then... I cut on dos 3.0
[13:06] <craigbass1976> Rookie407, which version of Ubuntu have you got?  Like I said, I've been with Linux a while now, but it took a while for me to get used to GNOME 3.  I've not used Unity yet (ran into GNOME3 in Fedora) but hear that it's similar.
[13:06] <craigbass1976> nightshade209, install stella.  Get a couple usb joysticks and play Combat.
[13:06] <Rookie407> Culiforge, i used dos along side win 3.0, 3.1 so dont feel too old =P
[13:06] <nightshade209> Culiforge: *shudder* DOS is just a nightmare i remember from school, when i was forced to learn it as part of my syllabus
[13:07] <usr13> iceroot: I wouldn't say that.  Our IRC channel is biggest for sure, but other distro's users are helpful too, just that their IRC channel is not as big.
[13:07] <nightshade209> craigbass1976: huh, what? i have no idea what either of those are
[13:07] <Rookie407> craigbass1976, im using the newest 11.10
[13:07] <iceroot> usr13: like the rtfm-debian .)
[13:07] <Culiforge> hehe, I remember taking a summer course in 6th grade to "learn" Basic... very anticlimactic for a 10 year old...
[13:08] <craigbass1976> Rookie407, you're golden then.  Any ubuntu boxes I run are still Lucid, so when I put Fedora with new gnome on my laptop, it was a bit of a shock.
[13:08] <Rookie407> craigbass1976, a friend was telling me to use gnome cuz its similar to windows but i didnt know how or where to get it lol
[13:08] <mediajunkie> And even then , every new update will have its problems. Currently I've bought a new laptop and the new hardware is not supported in Lucid (10.04), well at least not out of the box. So I thought it is maybe a good Idea to give onerric a roll. (11.10) And pretty much all the hardware is supported out of the box. Except de Video drivers for the dual cards from ATI (AMD)  Now having said that I found this version pretty buggy, and having a
[13:08] <mediajunkie>  lot of broken packages with it. I really have trouble getting everything to work on this new version. and it has costed me several days figuring out stuff, and I'm not there yet, but then again, If I would do a switch in windows from one version to another and at the same time on new hardware, the same thing would happen.
[13:08] <Rookie407> really the most important part of all this i wanna learn is the command lines i wanna wreck the terminals world XD
[13:09] <iceroot> Rookie407: bash hacking is always a good idea
[13:09] <usr13> iceroot: Well, yea, there is arogance on some of the other channels from time to time.  And here on #ubuntu, they set a very good example.  There are too many that answer with rtfm or google it instead of giving specific answers, but they are the minority.
[13:09] <iceroot> usr13: but of course other communities are also great
[13:10] <nightshade209> Rookie407: don't be afraid to experiment then... once you install the basic system, backup the whole thing and go crazy on it... u'll learn much more that way
[13:10] <fidel> Rookie407: then get used to 'apt' first and maybe 'ps' & 'grep' & 'find' and the usage of the |
[13:10] <iceroot> Rookie407: yes, try to install some software on the command-line using "apt-get"
[13:10] <Rookie407> haha fidel you lost me at apt =P
[13:10] <iceroot> Rookie407: see how the things with the repos works (apt-get is using the repos) and ubottu have you a link about repos first
[13:10] <fidel> Rookie407: most commands have a manual you can access inside a terminal
[13:11] <Rookie407> iceroot, i tryed installing javajdk im pretty sure i got it installed but without other programs that require java jdk idk if it even right
[13:11] <fidel> the command to access that manual is 'man' - so if you want to get basic info directly inside a terminal session about i.e. the command 'apt' enter 'man apt'
[13:11] <throstur2> what is the command to see how many processors I have
[13:11] <Rookie407> or how to set the environ variables for that matter
[13:11] <throstur2> aka cores
[13:11] <iceroot> throstur2: cat /proc/cpuinfo or "top" and press 1 there
[13:12] <usr13> iceroot: I remember when I first started using xfce and joined #xfce for some pointers, I got some very good info in short order.  And have had similar experiences with other projects and irc channels and forums.  I've seen plenty of rude users, and I must admit that even though this is by far the largest community, they are the most polite and helpful, I'll give you that.
[13:12] <craigbass1976> Rookie407, easy killer...  You'll get there. It's nothing like DOS, because it's actually useful.  I odn't know that GNOME is like Windows.  XFCE and LXDE are more like XP as I remember
[13:12] <mediajunkie> back to my question for someone that might know>   have Evolution working fine on oneiric.... Using gmail accounts, ... and address book. All was there and working for few days. but now it seems that my Gmail address book is empty (in evo) not on google
[13:13] <Rookie407> craigbass1976, lmfao at " It's nothing like DOS, because it's actually useful."
[13:13] <nightshade209> mediajunkie: is there an option to manually re-sync it or something? sorry, but i never used evolution for any amount of time...
[13:13] <mediajunkie> >> and another strange thing is that evolution --force-shutdown seems not to work anymore on oneirric
[13:14] <nightshade209> mediajunkie: i know this doesn't answer your question, but what about thunderbird?
[13:14] <mediajunkie> no it won't even allow me to delete the address book entry . I can make a new one but also that is empty at the moment. .   What I have tried is killing the password entry in the key-ring, and start it again. but no help there.
[13:15] <godos> anybody help me with overscan tvout problems?
[13:15] <mediajunkie> Well I like thunderbird, but i'm on evolution now since 2008 and have tons of emails in it. and do need a full PIM. After being a MS nut with outlook , Evo seemed the only real replacement at the time.
[13:16] <fidel> mediajunkie: tb might offer a similar setup using lightning
[13:16] <nightshade209> mediajunkie: ok... maybe there's something that allows you to import from evolution to thunderbird?
[13:16] <fidel> mediajunkie: evolutios cal & adressbook integration was never stable for me to be honest
[13:16] <usr13>  /msg Rookie407 Here is one guy's opinion about customizing Ubuntu.  Skip the install instructions and about half way down, he gives his opinion on some ubuntu tweeks that you might find useful / informative.
[13:16] <maciej_> hi guys, i need help. im new to linux and i dont know how to have diffrents icons in diffrent pulpits, is it possible?
[13:16] <usr13> ooops.... I skipped a space.  Oh well.
[13:16] <fidel> mediajunkie: are you using pop - or why is having all mails 'in evolution' an issue in terms of a possible app-switch to something else?
[13:19] <mediajunkie> fidel: well I mix Pop and Imap accounts
[13:20] <mediajunkie> Also there is the connection to a Exhange ... and that is were TB will be no good for me.
[13:21] <mediajunkie> (don't say.. I know, I hate exchange too
[13:21] <mediajunkie> but that is not my choice.
[13:23] <fidel> ;)
[13:24] <mediajunkie> Another Q? : I've installed Blender out of the PPA to get version 2.61.. there is a dependancy  for glibc 2.7.    anyway to install that on oneiric?
[13:24] <iceroot> mediajunkie: hm
[13:24] <iceroot> mediajunkie: changing glibc is normally breaking a lot of stuff
[13:25] <iceroot> !info glibc
[13:25] <pksadiq> !find glibc
[13:25] <iceroot> pksadiq: thx
[13:25] <mediajunkie> I've seen that too , but blender won't start. so I need to find a way
[13:26] <pksadiq> iceroot: np ;)
[13:26] <mediajunkie> but I notice in general that a lot of packages don't work in 11.10
[13:27] <iceroot> mediajunkie: the ppa is for 11.10?
[13:27] <geppo> !list
[13:27] <mediajunkie> iceroot yes
[13:27] <KS> i want to search text PATRON_NAME in all files but it is also searching small caps word i.e patron_name ,and i dont want to search small caps word ,i am using find for that  ex:- find /home  -type f -exec grep -il "patron_name" {} \; > /openils/PATRON_NAME1.txt
[13:27] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: have you enabled openGL? I think blender won't live without it
[13:27] <iceroot> mediajunkie: and you are using 11.10?
[13:28] <mediajunkie> iceroot yes, 11.10
[13:28] <kalevikosunen> kokeilu
[13:28] <iceroot> KS: dont use -i
[13:28] <mediajunkie> pksadig: that might be a problem as I seem not to be able to install catalic drivers (amd)
[13:28] <iceroot> KS: -i is ignoring case-sensitiv so it will match foo and FOO
 thank you :)
[13:29] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: also please note that !TAB is your friend :)
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> KS  regular expressions?
[13:30] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: the third party drivers say that they are active and installed but they are not if you try to start catalic it won't and fuzz that the drivers are not installed
[13:30] <iceroot> KS: and grep -r patron_name /home  is not what you are looking for?
[13:30] <mediajunkie> ..... pksadiq  ... what is !TAB
[13:30] <pksadiq> !TAB | mediajunkie
[13:31] <siryo> HELLO
[13:31] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: open terminal and type blender <Enter>, you may get an Idea of what is happening
[13:31] <siryo> !LIST
[13:31] <mediajunkie> ubottu: ahh nice
[13:31] <siryo> OK
[13:32] <mediajunkie> how dumb, about TAB, never thought about it . duhhhh tooo much coffeeeee I guess after 2 all-nighters. .LOL
[13:32] <iceroot> mediajunkie: that is also working on the shell. very usefull feature
[13:32] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: okay hold on trying now
[13:32] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: hm, ubottu is not as intelligent is fsbot,rudybot or dpkg ;)
[13:32] <raven> cinelerra+ffmpeg - possible to give edls to ffmpeg to encode it externally?
[13:33] <nixnine> can I partition a hard drive that has linux installed on it already?
[13:34] <schnuffle> nixnine: if the whole space is already partitioned you need to resize a partition first to make some space
[13:34] <mediajunkie> iceroot:  yes in shell I knew and use it all the time as I convert all my mts videos to mp4 in command line with ffmpeg and without tab key you are lost in hell ... lol
[13:35] <nixnine> resize?
[13:35] <nixnine> do I use gparted?
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> only a few million ciao-!list italians to go
[13:36] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
[13:36] <mediajunkie>   Major opcode of failed request:  155 (GLX)
[13:36] <schnuffle> nixnine: yes you can do it with gparted, keep in mind that it's always possible to loose you data, sdo make a backup before
[13:36] <mediajunkie>   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
[13:36] <mediajunkie>   Serial number of failed request:  32
[13:36] <mediajunkie>   Current serial number in output stream:  32
[13:36] <mediajunkie> Segmentation fault
[13:36] <FloodBot1> mediajunkie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:36] <iceroot> mediajunkie: ok :=
[13:37] <CalumJEadie> Hey All, I was wondering if anyone else has had problems with the color scheme used in gedit embedded terminal? See http://imagebin.org/192102.
[13:37] <CalumJEadie> I'm not able to use byobu on linux mint 12 or ubuntu 11.10 due to foreground and background color being the same. Would be great if someones got a fix for this>?
[13:38] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: so blender seem to have issue with the GLX not working then huh.
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> CalumJEadie  i use byobu, you can change the colors by pressing F9
[13:39] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: is compiz activated on your computer?
[13:39] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: ah will have to look , let me see and try
[13:40] <CalumJEadie> MonkeyDust: Thanks for the advice, I haven't been able to change the colour succesfully though to avoid the problem. I'm also getting the same problem with the ls command.
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> CalumJEadie  what's the issue with ls?
[13:41] <CalumJEadie> MonkeyDust executable files are being shown as black rectangles, so foreground and background color the same
[13:42] <CalumJEadie> MonkeyDust see http://imagebin.org/192102
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> CalumJEadie  click Edit > profile preferences to change the color scheme
[13:42] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: compiz is on the system but how do I know it is active?
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> CalumJEadie  byobu opens a terminak, i see no terminal on that printscreen
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> terminal*
[13:43] <slakcphone> anyone using gkrellm?
[13:43] <slakcphone> I set the preferences and all that but lose thr changes after exiting
[13:44] <CalumJEadie> MonkeyDust so that's the embedded terminal in byobu, byobu is running but the problem is the background and foreground color of the status is the same
[13:44] <slakcphone> Maybe there is a config file i can put a directive in?
[13:44] <CalumJEadie> MonkeyDust using standard settings in linux mint 12
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> CalumJEadie  i'm not familiar with embedded terminal, it must be different,then
[13:45] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: in 10.04 it was available at right click  on desktop , not sure of later versions
[13:45] <_cb> how can i permanently set up my dns servers on my machine? resolv.conf gets re-written upon boot up
[13:45] <CalumJEadie> MonkeyDust thanks for the edit preferences suggestion, gedit seems to be using it's own colour scheme as changing terminal color scheme doesn't change the embedded one
[13:45] <schnuffle> _cb: do you use networkmanager?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> _cb  disable any netwotk managerµ
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> schnuffle  was faster :)
[13:45] <schnuffle> :)
[13:46] <_cb> schnuffle am using ubuntu 11.10 the only 'network managment' I found was the useless network app on the settings
[13:46] <slakcphone> hey sorry,
[13:46] <Stepnjump> It looks like since a few hours, my desktop will write to /root/desktop as it's default desktop instead of /home/user/Desktop destination. Even when I cd ~/, I actually cd to /root/....
[13:47] <slakcphone> Use /etc/network/interfaces
[13:47] <schnuffle> _cb:  check http://askubuntu.com/questions/31023/how-to-configure-eth0-manually
[13:47] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: man, this unity thing, is a pain you know. I feel that they have wasted alot of resource time for eye candy rather than fixing bugs and upgrading functionality on apps. (it looks nice but .. ... computing is soo much more than eye candy)
[13:47] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: try alt+f2 and type compiz --replace to activate compiz,
[13:47] <user314> 1
[13:48] <Stepnjump> looks like everything is back to normal.. sorry
[13:48] <Stepnjump> disregard
[13:48] <schnuffle> _cb: if you use dhcp to get a network config, this will overwrite the DNS settings as well
[13:48] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: you can change your user interface to ubuntu classic at the login screen
[13:49] <eltigre> hey, I have some trouble with my network configuration (I think).... certain ressources on certain sites are not loaded, rendering the sites useless (blank page even though chrome and firefox say the main document is loaded correctly)
[13:49] <_cb> schnuffle I have already changed  interfaces to set a static ip. Problem is the dns servers are set in resolv.conf and that file is overwritten on boot up
[13:49] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: yes I know ,but I do want to stick and try so I'm on top of the new trends you know
[13:49] <meerkats> for those who play with 1st person shooters like nexuiz, is there a way to scroll the mouse out of the game window without exiting the game?
[13:49] <schnuffle> _cb: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces?
[13:49] <ffk27_> meerkats: which game?
[13:49] <eltigre> any idea why ubuntu can't visit some sites whereas no windows user in my network has these problems?
[13:50] <eltigre> Does Ubuntu censor the web?
[13:50] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: the latest doesn't means the best, I don't upgrade from 10.04 because I hate unity, and my next upgrade will be to debian, and not to ubuntu :),
[13:50] <meerkats> ffk27_, nexuiz, assaultcube
[13:50] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: I love 10.4 and have it on all other machines
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> eltigre  there are some websites that refuse non-windows computers, as there are that refuse windows computers
[13:50] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: so tried enabling compiz? do you have the wobly windows and such thing now?
[13:50] <schnuffle> _cb:  to uninstall it: sudo apt-get purge network-manager network-manager-gnome
[13:51] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: but this one won't work with 10.4 ... brand new hardware ...
[13:51] <eltigre> MonkeyDust, I am pretty sure that is not the case... for example I can reach one site with ff and not chrome
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> eltigre  it must be the war of the browsers, then
[13:51] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: also there is a package named compizconfig-settings-manager that allows you to configure compiz, also you can enable/disable openGL. and a lot more
[13:52] <_cb> schnuffle wow, un-installing network manager seems a bit drastic. Imagine network manager does more than just rewrite resolv.conf
[13:52] <eltigre> MonkeyDust, no not really...
[13:52] <skilz> How can I change my startup plymouth?
[13:52] <eltigre> this is clearly a problem with ubuntu...
[13:52] <skilz> I want to install a different theme
[13:53] <pksadiq> !plymouth | skilz
[13:53] <eltigre> I'd be more interested in ways to debug this instead of hearing conspiracy theories about websites or browsers...
[13:54] <schnuffle> _cb: it doesn't but if that sounds to radical, you can configure your network to work manually in the network manager as well. There'S even an option to only get the address
[13:54] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: yes open gl is active, and yes I see that now with the compiz. ... but as I said , I don't really care for eye candy lol. it just has to work, that was why I went to linux in the first place and .... this unity thing is going a complete different direction. it breaks stuff and tries to fix things that didn't need fixing and such. ... a step backwards in compatibility
[13:55] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: did you also try opening blender in classic mode?
[13:55] <eltigre> I am really frustrated not being able to use sites that have worked for years...
[13:55] <_cb> schnuffle where is network manager in unity? system settings-->network does not seem to do much
[13:55] <eltigre> just because some ubuntu software update nukes my network configuration
[13:55] <mediajunkie> pksadiq:  still want to give it an honest try, before shit-canningit ,
[13:55] <mediajunkie> pksadiq:  how do I do that ?
[13:56] <schnuffle> _cb: doesn't have you an applet in the panel? It'S called nm-applet
[13:56] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: do what?
[13:56] <eltigre> and nobody really can help me... or wants to help me ....
[13:56] <mediajunkie> pksadiq: classic mode
[13:57] <pksadiq> mediajunkie: just login to ubuntu classic and try opening blender, that's what I mean
[13:57] <mediajunkie> pksadiq:  okay
[13:57] <Pici> eltigre: Can you provide examples of what sites won't load?
[13:58] <schnuffle> _cb: I can't check cause For the moment I'm running Mint 12
[13:58] <eltigre> Pici,  tagesschau.de
[13:58] <schnuffle> _cb: But I had strange behaviour due to having the network configured through /etc/interfaces and in nm
[13:58] <Naphidia> hey guys im doing an install from ubuntu minimal, and when i bootup, i get bios screen, then screen goes black. however i am able to ssh into the box so i know its running...
[13:59] <Naphidia> whats the issue?
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> tagesschau.de opens correctly in Chromium browser
[13:59] <Naphidia> or what might be the issue
[13:59] <Naphidia> im reinstalling right now..
[13:59] <eltigre> MonkeyDust, yeah I know
[13:59] <darkstar> Naphidia, are you on a laptop with 2 gpus?
[13:59] <eltigre> for everyone that works...
[13:59] <eltigre> except me....
[13:59] <schnuffle> _cb: if you use nm /etc/network/inferfaces should be empty except for the loopbacl device
[13:59] <k3Rn> anyone here does "nested" virtuzalisation with kvm on intel cpu?
[14:00] <Naphidia> no, its a desktop with a ATI HD vid card, and im using hdmi
[14:00] <Naphidia> its a 4x series
[14:00] <Naphidia> i can pastebin lspci output shortly, im almost done installing again
[14:03] <_cb> schnuffle maybe I need to run system settings-->network as sudo but how do I do that?
[14:03] <almoxarife> Naphidia: from a user terminal, not root, sudo apt get install fglrx and reboot
[14:04] <schnuffle> _cb: normally the system asks for the rights if you need to have them for changing a setting
[14:04] <Naphidia> will that mess up anything when i go to install the driver from ATI almoxarfe?
[14:05] <almoxarife> Naphidia: that is the ati driver
[14:05] <_cb> schnuffle I am just trying to figure out how to run the network manager in unity. This unity takes some getting used too
[14:05] <schnuffle> _cb: what happens if you open a terminal an start nm_applet?
[14:05] <Naphidia> ive had issues with teh default ati driver, sound doesn't want to work when im using sdl
[14:06] <pksadiq> one crazy question : What equation does the volume control uses to calculate the volume in dB ( from the percent volume)?
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> E=MC2
[14:06] <almoxarife> Naphidia: sound and video are two different issues, hdmi is video only
[14:07] <pksadiq> MonkeyDust: :) great, but its proved to be wrong, since scientists found particles faster than light
[14:07] <ivixor> almoxarife: hdmi is video and sound
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> pksadiq  nuclear power and gps are proof that E=MC2 is correct, now back ontopic ;)
[14:08] <almoxarife> Naphidia: the sound is not affected by the video drivers, and yes, hdmi is sound out as ivixor said
[14:09] <mediajunkie> thanks for all feedback guys, I have to get some food on the table first. but pksadiq, I will try and see what classic mode does. but I think I should battle first the ATI driver thing for those apps I think.
[14:12] <almoxarife> ivixor: hdmi is a cable that makes a one way trip up till someone cracks it
[14:14] <Naphidia> installing... i hope this works
[14:15] <vikey> 不懂怎么用 多关照。
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> !cn| vikey
[14:17]  * Naphidia crosses fingers as she reboots
[14:19] <Narcotic> hihih
[14:19] <vikey> 啊哈哈
[14:20] <Naphidia> hmm i got a blinking curser this time
[14:20] <Naphidia> do i still need to install the package from ATI '
[14:20] <Naphidia> ?
[14:21] <Narcotic> hum i need to merge my ubuntu system i only got 19 gig when i intsall
[14:21] <mauro_> llist
[14:21] <mauro_> !list
[14:25] <mauro_> irc://irc.futureshell.it/ComingSoon
[14:26] <paulw__> good morning everyone. where would be a good place to ask about multipath iscsi on linux?
[14:28] <Narcotic> hum i need to merge my ubuntu system i only got 19 gig when i intsall
[14:28] <Narcotic> pl some one
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> Narcotic  merge with what?
[14:30] <Narcotic> monkeydust i only got 19 gig for ubuntu but now i wanne merge it to 1000 gig
[14:30] <Narcotic> 1 terra
[14:31] <iceroot> Narcotic: you want to resize the partition? or install on a new hdd?
[14:32] <Narcotic> no i just wane tresize it becouse steam say u don,t got enough space ???
[14:32] <Narcotic> flaws sry
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> Narcotic  copy to a 1TB disk, you mean?
[14:34] <iceroot> Narcotic: i would suggest to make a backup of the important files, then boot a live-system and use gparted to resize the partition
[14:34] <Narcotic> monkeydust i got win 8 and 7 and ubuntu on one disk i install obuntu and win 8 and 7 on one disk i putr 19 gig for ububtu now i wanne get 100 gig on it but how do i do that
[14:35] <iceroot> Narcotic: i told you already how to do it
[14:35] <ffk27_> Narcotic: use a ubuntu live cd with gparted
[14:35] <bazhang> Narcotic, did you see iceroot 's suggestion or not
[14:36] <Narcotic> yes sry
[14:36] <Narcotic> thx http://www.bol.com/nl/order/basket.html?_requestid=101313
[14:37] <bazhang> Narcotic, why paste that here
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> Narcotic  kindly join #ubuntu-nl
[14:37] <Narcotic> i gonne try what ice say okay
[14:48] <DamienCassou> hi
[14:48] <ffk27_> hi
[14:49] <DamienCassou> I've just installed oneiric and I'm looking for a timer-applet and system-monitor-applet compatible with unity
[14:49] <kalevikosunen> hi
[14:49] <DamienCassou> +clipboard manager
[14:49] <DamienCassou> it seems the ones I used are not compatible anymore
[14:50] <DamienCassou> there are alternatives and I would like your opinion
[14:51] <xangua> DamienCassou: glippy is a clipboard manager and has indicator support, other indicators: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators
[14:52] <DamienCassou> xangua: I'm having a look. Any experience?
[14:58] <jasonlfunk> I have ubuntu server installed and am trying to figure out how to configure my ethernet device so that when I plug in a cable it will get an ip address via DHCP. Currently, if I boot without a cable plugged in and then plug it in after it is up, it will not grab an IP address.
[14:58] <bazhang> jasonlfunk, sudo dhclient eth0  returns what
[14:59] <jasonlfunk> That will get me an IP address, but I want it to do it automatically.
[15:00] <llutz> jasonlfunk: allow-hotplug ethX    in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:01] <koppe> Want to reinstall Linux.  Bought an external drive.  Want move my old /home to this, preferebly with Linux users/groups and permission.  Is there a good way to get a *compressed* Unix-type FS on it?  Or should I forsake UnixFS and use NTFS w/compression?  (Is NTFS-compression supported?)
[15:01] <Androguy> why does it need to be compressed?
[15:02] <jasonlfunk> llutz: Use "allow-hotplug eth0" instead of "auto eth0"?
[15:02] <Androguy> koppe: I suppose you could just dd the drive.
[15:03] <quiescens> to be fair, under a lot of the most common workloads, things are faster on a compressed filesystem than regular
[15:03] <llutz> jasonlfunk: not instead, add it
[15:03] <Androguy> koppe: and then resize the partition in gparted after.
[15:03] <koppe> Because I got lots of text-files (email backups and ebooks among other things) that it would be a great shame to let use more space than neccessery.
[15:03] <arooni-mobile> hi folks.  my volume keys don't work on ubuntu 11.10.  running lenovo t420 laptop.
[15:04] <jasonlfunk> llutz: okay, I'll give that a shot.
[15:05] <koppe> Androguy: Guess I could, but I'm sort of hoping to continue to use the drive for more /home back-ups later, so I don't think dd would work (like to start fresh now and then)
[15:05] <RaTTuS> koppe - I'd not bother TBH - you wont see any real imporvment
[15:07] <arooni-mobile> hi folks.  1) my volume keys don't work on ubuntu 11.10.  running lenovo t420 laptop.     2) can i remap keys on the keyboard to do other things?  for instance, i got a replacement keyboard for my laptop  (latin america version) but want to remap one of the keys to be a shift key
[15:09] <thundercles_> yes
[15:09] <thundercles_> in the control center
[15:10] <thundercles_> you should be able to set any global hotkey settings, single keys or macros
[15:10] <thundercles_> I usaully set ctrl+alt+end to bring up the task manager thingie
[15:10] <jasonlfunk> llutz: that doesn't seem to help. I see the "eth0: link up" in my messages file, but I don't see it tried to get an IP address.
[15:11] <thundercles_> open up a terminal window jasonlfunk
[15:11] <thundercles_> and type sudo ifconfig
[15:11] <llutz> jasonlfunk: did you disable networkmanager?
[15:12] <thundercles_> see what pops up, what is your question exactly though I missed it
[15:12] <llutz> thundercles_: ifconfig needs no sudo
[15:12] <jasonlfunk> llutz: It's possible, I don't see the process running.
[15:12] <thundercles_> it does if you try and do anything other then view
[15:12] <thundercles_> so I just usaully type it in reguardless
[15:13] <pensfan> anyone having problems with ubuntu just shutting down every once in a while?
[15:13] <pensfan> it does it quite gracefully
[15:13] <thundercles_> also try running dhclient in the terminal
[15:13] <llutz> jasonlfunk: allow-hotplug eth0, auto eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp             those 3 lines should be in your interfaces
[15:13] <pensfan> but why
[15:13] <thundercles_> that fixes DHCP stuff a lot
[15:13] <llutz> thundercles_: bad habit :)
[15:13] <quiescens> bad things happen when people get too used to just using sudo because it might help
[15:13] <jasonlfunk> thundercles_: Thanks. My problem is getting the interface to automatically fetch an IP address when a cable is plugged in. I don't have a problem getting one manually.
[15:14] <thundercles_> yeah ubuntu has given me a lot of bad habits :(
[15:14] <Naphidia> install ubuntu minimal, learn less bad habits
[15:14] <Naphidia> lawl
[15:14] <quiescens> have had to deal with people that have files in their home directory owned by root and so on
[15:14] <jasonlfunk> llutz: It doesn't look like I have network-manager installed.
[15:14] <quiescens> always fun
[15:14] <thundercles_> lmao, well I'd just go back to fedora or debian if I wanted to do that lol
[15:15] <jasonlfunk> llutz: I may have uninstalled it because I thought it was a Gnome thing.
[15:15] <llutz> jasonlfunk: well, then it should work ™ this way
[15:15] <jasonlfunk> llutz: is network-manager required for this to work?
[15:15] <llutz> jasonlfunk: no  need for that crap
[15:16] <jasonlfunk> llutz: does "allow-hotplug" need to come before the auto line?
[15:16] <jasonlfunk> llutz: I suppose I could just try. :)
[15:16] <llutz> jasonlfunk: i always have it on top of the file... no idea if that matters
[15:17] <Anomie21> Anyone have experience using a SNES emulator in Ubuntu? I have XP installed on a partition; just wondering if it's worth trying to get it to work in Ubuntu or just go onto XP?
[15:17] <w30> quiescens, Yeah, I have had that bite me, someone said use gksu instead of sudo for graphical apps to stop that.
[15:17] <thundercles_> yeah I am pretty sure there is zsnes or something for linux
[15:18] <thundercles_> wine should be able to run an snes emulator with no problem whatsoever if there is only windows ones for some reaosn
[15:18] <Anomie21> thundercles_: Yeah I'm aware there are emulators just wondering if anyone knew how buggy, etc they were
[15:18] <thundercles_> you'd just have to keep the roms in the windows directory tree tho
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> !info zsnes
[15:19] <thundercles_> well try out some of them, if you like the windows one better try running it in wine
[15:19] <Naphidia> zsnes has issues with some configs on linux
[15:19] <Naphidia> namely the sound..
[15:19] <Naphidia> lol
[15:20] <thundercles_> it takes really really weird specialty softwares to not work in wine excellently anymore
[15:20] <thundercles_> like turbotax
[15:20] <Anomie21> Got my USB SNES controllers through the post this morning. Friday night snes party! I will try WINE, thx
[15:20] <Naphidia> i wish steam would run in wine
[15:20] <thundercles_> thats the only one besides vendor phone flashing software I've had to run windows for lately
[15:20] <Naphidia> it does but doesn;t handle it well
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> Anomie21  http://maketecheasier.com/play-classic-console-games-in-linux/2009/11/13?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MakeTechEasier+%28Make+Tech+Easier%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
[15:21] <th^2> hello. is there a bitcoin client for ubuntu?
[15:21] <Slagwag> how do I view the version of ubuntu i have running at a command line
[15:21] <Anomie21> MonkeyDust: ta
[15:22] <thundercles_> shoot I forgot that one
[15:22] <oCean> Slagwag: lsb_release -a
[15:22] <xangua> there is Desura  Naphidia
[15:22] <who_me> Naphidia, Steam does run on wine
[15:22] <xangua> a 'steam lite' Naphidia
[15:22] <thundercles_> yeah I ran steam on wine fine before, I just don't game very much
[15:23] <Slagwag> ocean - thanks
[15:23] <oneliner> uname -a
[15:23] <oneliner> that one?
[15:23] <Slagwag> ocean oneiric isthe codename similar to pervious ones like lenny, etch, hardy right?
[15:23] <RaTTuS> th^2 - http://ubuntuguide.net/install-bitcoin-in-ubuntu-10-0410-1011-04-from-ppa
[15:23] <Naphidia> if steam ever ran natively on linux i would ditch windows forever
[15:24] <oCean> Slagwag: lenny, etch are debian names. Ubuntu's names are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[15:24] <who_me> Naphidia,  but you do not need to use raw wine. You can use PlayOnLinux - free or Crossover Games which gives a 7 days un-hindered trial mode then you need to pay if you want to keep using it
[15:24] <KingPin> steam doesnt even allow us to use their chat apart from their shitty client... I doubt they would ever goto linux
[15:24] <Naphidia> yeah but im jobless, otherwise it would be nice to pay for something like that
[15:25] <Naphidia> my rent currently costs more than my current income, temp jobs is all ive been able to find lately
[15:25] <who_me> Naphidia, steam is just a content delivery platform, you need games to be actually developed to run on linux
[15:25] <matt23> naphidia http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/its-official-steam-coming-linux
[15:25] <Naphidia> yea
[15:25] <thundercles_> Naphidia, I hear ya. I feel like a shmuck lately not being able to donate to any project I use either :(
[15:26] <Slagwag> ocean - thanks!
[15:26] <KingPin> who_me,  there already are games on steam from indie devs that run on linux.
[15:26] <Naphidia> says coming months... that was 2010
[15:26] <KingPin> there would be more if steam catered to linux
[15:26] <Naphidia> ive yet to see it
[15:26] <Sideev> How can I gather the information of my system temperature? I just want to know whether over-heating is happening or not?
[15:26] <thundercles_> well steam caters to running game servers on linux :p
[15:26] <KingPin> that is true
[15:26] <KingPin> I run almost 3 dozen instances
[15:27] <Naphidia> https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Steam_under_Linux
[15:27] <KingPin> I would be running like 3 if I had to run on windows
[15:27] <Naphidia> hmm found it but it looks like it uses wine
[15:27] <thundercles_> wine isn't too shabby anymore, it's really come along
[15:27] <jasonlfunk> llutz: do you know any way to debug why this isn't working?
[15:28] <thundercles_> when they had that goal of running the windows 7 directX because windows wouldn't make it compatable with XP things advanced a bit
[15:28] <llutz> jasonlfunk: not off hand, sry
[15:28] <jasonlfunk> llutz: np, thanks.
[15:28] <thundercles_> nothing like MS abusing their customers to drive a few more over to linux :)
[15:29] <DMJC> how do I disable all the gui crap at boot?
[15:29] <llutz> !nox | DMJC
[15:29] <thundercles_> oh they changed it to shift?
[15:30] <szal> llutz: that's not the answer to the question, I guess
[15:30] <thundercles_> thanks a lot ubottu I was very surprised when esc stopped working and I wasn't able to modify grub stuff anymore
[15:30] <thundercles_> never got around to figuring it out tho,
[15:30] <DMJC> hmm that didn't work
[15:31] <DMJC> screen still went black
[15:31] <DamienCassou> when pressing SUPER+W I get a visualization of all the windows (great). However, the active window is not distinguishable from the other ones which makes the whole shortcut less useful. Is there a way to add some kind of highlighting?
[15:31] <RaTTuS> DMJC blank != GUI
[15:32] <Sideev> How can I gather the information of my system temperature? I just want to know whether over-heating is happening or not?
[15:32] <DMJC> Rattus: I realise this, my framebuffers are not working correctly
[15:32] <DMJC> I need to disable all the weird graphics crap and get a vesa framebuffer forced all the way in until boot finishes
[15:32] <RaTTuS> aha right
[15:33] <who_me> then you prolly need to blacklist some video drivers ?
[15:33] <DMJC> yeah
[15:33] <DMJC> I have 0 access to the system right now
[15:33] <DMJC> all I have is grub2
[15:33] <indrora> I'm working on getting Awesome, Thunar, nm-applet and a few other things working nicely together. Can anyone tell me how the hell to make PolicyKit like me via SLiM
[15:33] <RaTTuS> boot fro musb?
[15:34] <jasonlfunk> llutz: I wonder if my hotplug isn't working at all.
[15:34] <oCean> Sideev: install package lm-sensors
[15:36] <Narcotic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppMejf920Z8
[15:36] <indrora> Does anyone know how to make SLiM/awesome/xinitrc's work properly with nm-applet, thunar and friends?
[15:36] <oCean> Narcotic: why are you posting that?
[15:37] <Slagwag> im trying to install opsview on ubuntu and it had me add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list called - deb http://downloads.opsera.com/opsview-community/latest/apt <OS> main
[15:37] <Slagwag> but im not sure what to do now
[15:37] <Slagwag> to install it
[15:37] <AuPurchal> how do i install hamachi?
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> what's himachi?
[15:37] <Slagwag> its from logmein
[15:37] <indrora> Does anyone know how to make SLiM/awesome/xinitrc's work properly with nm-applet, thunar and friends?
[15:38] <Slagwag> to create a fake vpned network
[15:38] <Sideev> oCean: http://bit.ly/ws7DUW is it the one?
[15:38] <kutenai2> I just installed version 11.10 on a computer. The video card did not work - when it booted we got scrambled video then blank screen. Removed the card and used the onboard VGA and this works..
[15:38] <indrora> kutenai2: nvidia?
[15:38] <Joene> Guys i need some help.
[15:38] <kutenai2> I downloaded the driver from Nvideo for Linux (64 bit), and tried to install it.
[15:38] <kutenai2> It said I need to shut downy he X server..
[15:38] <oCean> Sideev: that is lm-sensors output indeed
[15:38] <indrora> kutenai2: try installing them from the repos.
[15:38] <kutenai2> I tried various way to do this.. sudu init 1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop…
[15:38] <indrora> kutenai2: works better.
[15:39] <kutenai2> no dice.
[15:39] <indrora> kutenai2: also, blacklist 'nouveau' manually if you have to
[15:39] <kutenai2> okay.. I'll have to do that the.
[15:39] <kutenai2> blacklist nouveau?
[15:39] <indrora> kutenai2: Some nouveau-"supported" cards turn up trash
[15:40] <indrora> kutenai2: random striping, trashed text, cursors etc?
[15:40] <go8765> ia any matter if i write  gnome-terminal --command /home/go8765432/.jdownloader/downloads/azureus/azureus or  gnome-terminal --command cd ~/.jdownloader/downloads/azureus && ./azureus ?
[15:40] <indrora> thats nouveau doing its shit.
[15:41] <xangua> go8765: azureus and jdownloader are in repository
[15:41] <Stepnjump> Anyone would know a good app that would allow me to ALL the duplicates recursively inside a dir and it's subdirs but contrary to FSlint, I am looking for something that will either automatically remove the duplicates or will bring me through a wizard that will ask me which files I want to delete and which ones I want to keep (keep newest, keep oldest, whatever). Something similar to foldermatch. Anything that works similar to this in Ubuntu ??? I have bee
[15:41] <Stepnjump> n searching all night!
[15:41] <xangua> !language | indrora
[15:41] <go8765> xangua, not fresh version of vuze :)
[15:41] <mons_> anarchy.tamu.edu
[15:41] <Joene> Is there any other programs in linux where i can force format my usb flash drive? its write protected ;(
[15:42] <estrela> UHu
[15:42] <DamienCassou> Joene: try gparted
[15:42] <Joene> Gparted didn't work :( it only gives me error :(
[15:42] <siddardhab> How do i add a fb account after i add a twitter account in gwibber.Can't see the option anywhere..
[15:43] <Joene> Is there any other programs in linux where i can force format my usb flash drive? its write protected ;(
[15:43] <Sideev> oCean: Sorry to bug you again. But how to get the output on?
[15:43] <oCean> Sideev: have you installed? Run  sudo apt-get install lm-sensors   Then run the command  sensors
[15:43] <kutenai2> Some blocked random video, then blank screen.
[15:44] <Pici> !floodbot | ET_
[15:44] <kutenai2> The card is an NVidia Geforce 9500
[15:44] <kutenai2> the onboard VGA works fine though, but only a single monitor
[15:44] <siddardhab> somebody.....
[15:44] <siddardhab> How do i add a fb account after i add a twitter account in gwibber.Can't see the option anywhere..
[15:44] <nightshade209> siddardhab: Edit> Accounts
[15:44] <Sideev> oCean: temp1 : 62 C Temp2 : 58 C
[15:44] <nightshade209> siddardhab: or try Ctrl+Shift+A
[15:45] <siddardhab> I did but i do not seea option to add a account
[15:45] <kutenai2> Okay.. I understand that I need to blacklist nouveau for the card. I'll look that up.
[15:46] <nightshade209> siddardhab: there is a window on the left with a (+) and a (-) sign below it - click on the (+)
[15:47] <oCean> Sideev: I don't know the details, but you need/can configure your chips in /etc/sensors3.conf
[15:47] <oneliner> kutenai2: you could simply disable it in grub boot command; while booting after biasd screen press shift to get the grub menu, select your linux boot entry and press e to edit it, find the line that says quiet splash and put nouveau.modeset=0 at the end , then hit control x to but with that edit
[15:47] <siddardhab> nightshade209 ooh,I saw it.My bad.
[15:48] <siddardhab> @nightshade209 thanks
[15:48] <kutenai2> Thanks.. I'll try that
[15:48] <kutenai2> oneliner: thanks..
[15:48] <sam___> Hi i've changed the motherboard on my ubuntu server installation and now i cannot see the network cards.. how can i cause ubuntu to re-detect network adaptors?
[15:48] <Sideev> oCean: Is sensors only commands present?
[15:48] <oneliner> if that works you can then edit that line permanently in the grub default configuration file
[15:48] <nightshade209> siddardhab: sure
[15:49] <go8765> xangua, so is any difference in result ?
[15:51] <oCean> Sideev: there's also the sensors-detect command (needs sudo) there is some information available, like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[15:51] <meco> How can I set audio to mono?
[15:52] <Sideev> oCean: Ubuntu has so far been pathetic at managing power. Thanks a lot for the help. Appreciated. :-)
[15:53] <sam___> will discover do the trick?
[15:53] <oCean> Sideev: Welcome! There is some addl information at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement
[15:54] <Sideev> oCean: Lemme go through them as well. :-)
[15:54] <go8765> ia any difference if i write  gnome-terminal --command /home/go8765432/.jdownloader/downloads/azureus/azureus or  gnome-terminal --command cd ~/.jdownloader/downloads/azureus && ./azureus ?
[15:55] <_jason> go8765: yes, there is a difference
[15:55] <almoxarife> sam___: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1772245
[15:56] <go8765> _jason, and what is difference ?
[15:57] <_jason> go8765: current working directory will not be the same.  Also your second command will not do what you expect I imagine
[15:58] <go8765> _jason, the last azureus in firs command - is bin file. so is any difference in commands?
[15:58] <_jason> go8765: yes, the difference is the one I said
[15:59] <ksx4system> any chanops here? I'd love to talk to one of them.
[15:59] <go8765> _jason, why you think that working dirrectories are not the same?
[15:59] <oCean> ksx4system: /join #ubuntu-ops
[16:00] <ksx4system> oCean: thanks
[16:00] <_jason> go8765: because in one you change it and in the other you don't
[16:01] <go8765> _jason, sorry:) I forgot cd in the begining of first command :) It i type it are any difference in command?
[16:01] <go8765> *it=if
[16:02] <nightshade209> _jason: "Also your second command will not do what you expect I imagine" not sure what you mean here - it will run azureus, won't it?
[16:02] <AmberJ> I remember using "Ubuntu recovery mode" from GRUB to change passwd for a user account...
[16:02] <AmberJ> I just tried it but it won't work...
[16:02] <AmberJ> Was this feature disabled?
[16:03] <_jason> nightshade209: I haven't tried but I think it will be read as (gnome-terminal --command cd whatever) && (./azureus)
[16:03] <nightshade209> _jason: hmmm, ya, true..
[16:07] <pensfan> how do i get my audio to mute when i unplug my earphones?
[16:07] <go8765> _jason, It I type cd in the begining of first command - is  are any difference in commands?
[16:08] <nightshade209> go8765: ya, as _jason said, it will interpret the commands as (gnome-terminal --command cd whatever) && (./azureus)
[16:08] <_jason> go8765: yes, arg0 will be different :)
[16:08] <sburjan_> Hello. Does anyone know a fix for the Dell XPS 15 L502x nVidia issue ?
[16:09] <pensfan> is there a way to get separate audio controls for speakers and headphones?
[16:09] <AmberJ> Anyone? Why does changing passwords from "ubuntu recovery mode" in GRUB does not works?
[16:09] <CaBa> hi
[16:09] <_jason> AmberJ: how did you change it?
[16:09] <CaBa> is there any repository maintaining current firefox releases for ubuntu LTS?
[16:09] <pensfan> AmberJ, because the drive is mounted read only
[16:10] <xangua> !fx6 | CaBa
[16:10] <pensfan> AmberJ, also you may have to chroot
[16:10] <xangua> the repository has fx 9.0,1 ;)
[16:10] <AmberJ> iirc I did "passwd user", pensfan, _ja
[16:10] <AmberJ> *_jason
[16:10] <Groan> I just upgraded to oneiric and it turned ipv6 on and ipv4 off. how do i enable ipv4?
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> what's iirc?
[16:10] <pensfan> AmberJ, pastie output from mount
[16:10] <bindi> MonkeyDust: if i remember correctly
[16:11] <_jason> AmberJ: to be clear, pastebin the output from mount while in recovery mode
[16:11] <AmberJ> pensfan, well, I don't remember but I did it long time back...may be it was not ubuntu
[16:11] <pensfan> AmberJ, pastie output from mount
[16:11] <AmberJ> I'll need to reboot from it...brb
[16:12] <CaBa> xangua: hm? both lucid and lucid-updates show 3.6 as current package version at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=firefox&searchon=names&section=all
[16:12] <go8765> _jason, and now?  gnome-terminal --command /home/go8765432/.jdownloader/downloads/azureus/azureus or  gnome-terminal --command "cd ~/.jdownloader/downloads/azureus && ./azureus "?
[16:12] <xangua> CaBa: use the PPA
[16:13] <CaBa> xangua: well if you say it is somewhere in the official repo as a security update i'd prefer that
[16:13] <_jason> go8765: still different.  Can I ask why you want to know?  What do you want to accomplish?  Note that while there are differences, they may or may not be significant
[16:13] <xangua> CaBa: it's in the ppa the bot mention
[16:13] <CaBa> ah, 11.04 it says, not 10.04
[16:13] <CaBa> i misread that
[16:13] <CaBa> damn
[16:14] <netsurf3> hi all, been getting some freezes using disk encryption and splash for lucid any ideas what causes it?
[16:14] <xangua> the ppa is for 10.04 and 10.10 CaBa
[16:14] <pensfan> is there a way to get separate audio controls for speakers and headphones?
[16:15] <CaBa> xangua: yes i know. i was hoping i wouldn't need the PPA
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> pensfan  in a terminal, type alsamixer
[16:15] <netsurf3> enter the password and the machine stops there but sending a reboot signal ie ctl alt delete will shut it down. It seems like it gets stuck waiting for something
[16:15] <Sideev> Hi, is it just me or anyone else also feels that ubuntu is pathetic at power management?
[16:15] <xangua> CaBa: you can also download it from firefox.com
[16:16] <pensfan> MonkeyDust, then?
[16:16] <netsurf3> Sideev, I do believe there was an article on phoronix about the newer versions of ubuntu being worse for PM
[16:16] <doritoDan> I'm looking for a lightweight Linux distro that I can use to run Dosbox. I'm pretty much not going to be doing anything else on this system, so I'm wondering if Ubuntu would be a good choice for this task, or if I should go with another distro?
[16:16] <xangua> Sideev: if you mean kernel 2.3.35 and up, it's general
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> pensfan  start there, it shows all the audio controls
[16:16] <CaBa> xangua: thats even worse than the ppa ;)
[16:16] <CaBa> i'll go for the ppa... more paperwork, but still acceptable :P
[16:16] <pensfan> MonkeyDust, i've already been through all the alsa controls
[16:16] <xangua> doritoDan: lubuntu is the lighter flavor of ubuntu ;)
[16:17] <doritoDan> Okay.
[16:17] <doritoDan> I literally only need a system on which I can autoboot dosbox
[16:17] <doritoDan> Will lubuntu do the trick, or is there something even better I can use?
[16:18] <netsurf3> DoritoDan you could heavily strip down ubuntu or another linux flavour to give more performance to dosbox
[16:18] <doritoDan> I'm not an experienced Linux user, so I don't think I could do that.
[16:18] <hateb> window menu bar is on the task bar in unity ? that's bizarre
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> hateb  it's called globalmenu
[16:19] <hateb> can I disable it ?
[16:19] <netsurf3> doritoDan, if you find that you aren't getting enough power from lubuntu try installing twm and running that instead (its an alternative window manager)
[16:20] <netsurf3> its the lightest thing i have used so far and back in the day it got me a good few more frames in ut2004 :)
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> hateb  http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/how-to-disable-global-menu-in-ubuntu-11-10-tip
[16:20] <jutnux> Howdy all.
[16:21] <Sideev> netsurf3: So are you done with ubuntu ? looking for another flavor?
[16:21] <AmberJ> pensfan, _jason yes...you guys were right. It was mounted read only. There was an additional option in receovery mode menu "remount" (as read/write). I used it and that allowed me to change the password. Thanks a lot :)
[16:22] <Sideev> xangua: So how do you people manage it? I find it too difficult to be true!
[16:22] <sergey_> русские есть?
[16:22] <pensfan> AmberJ, it's okay .. i'm a genius with a little bit of psychic :)
[16:22] <Davespice> hello all
[16:22] <jasonleds> Free PSN Store Codes   http://www.points2shop.com/?ref=uin1328881016
[16:22] <sergey_> так русские есть?
[16:23] <netsurf3> Sideev, i use a desktop mainly and powermanagement isnt too much of a bother. A general rule of thumb for me is i stick to ubuntu LTS releases
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> !ru | sergey_
[16:23] <xangua> Sideev: I read it will be fixed in next ubuntu release
[16:23] <netsurf3> i used to be a fedora person but got burned badly after fedora 9 and decided i wanted something that was fairly soild while not being straight debian
[16:24] <Sideev> netsurf3: But for my HP tablet LTS releases aren't any good either. :-|
[16:24] <Whitor> I used to be a slackware person then I decided I didn't feel like look a boat load of work every time I wanted to update the system or install an application. also beryl was pretty
[16:24] <netsurf3> Sideev, as in the power is still rubbish you mean?
[16:25] <Whitor> *feel like doing a boat load*
[16:25] <Whitor> woops wrong channel sorry
[16:26] <Sideev> netsurf3: Yes that what I meant!
[16:28] <dimitris> hi I need to find adriver for my webcam, i am runniing latest ubuntu , what can i try? what command to see what driver i am looking into
[16:29] <hateb> MonkeyDust: thank you
[16:29] <netsurf3> Sideev, considering that xangua has said that it is ment to be fixed in later releases you could find out if there is a patch for this on the kernel side and retrofit it to the distro of your choice? its alot of faf but you learn alot and it's got a good chance of making things better? only other thing i can think of is see if someone else has solved the problem and done that hard work?
[16:30] <doritoDan> netsurf3: Alright, thanks.
[16:30] <dimitris> please any command to find out what my driver or device is
[16:30] <dimitris> for webcam
[16:30] <urlin2u> dimitris, are you sure you even need a driver?
[16:30] <netsurf3> dimitris, start with providing a pastebin link of sudo lsusb
[16:31] <netsurf3> also if it is a usb webcam unplug it from the pc and then plug it back in and do a dmesg
[16:31] <netsurf3> you will see some info about how linux detects the device
[16:32] <dimitris> i am not even sure, what can i try oh
[16:32] <dimitris> susb
[16:32] <dimitris> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[16:32] <dimitris> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:32] <dimitris> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:32] <dimitris> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:32] <FloodBot1> dimitris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:32] <dimitris> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:33] <netsurf3> dimitris i did say use a pastebin :(
[16:33] <urlin2u> !pastebin | dimitris
[16:33] <dimitris> o h yes
[16:33] <dimitris> I am new
[16:33] <dimitris> sorry
[16:33] <dimitris> ok so what then now?
[16:33] <netsurf3> dimitris follow the link provided by the bot to put a paste
[16:34] <urlin2u> dimitris, I think you need cheese installed at the least.
[16:34] <netsurf3> urlin2u, good point
[16:34] <induz> I have ubuntu running on my desktop, if i change its RAM, do i have to re-install the OS??
[16:35] <nightshade209> induz: no, you don't
[16:35] <urlin2u> induz, shouldn't
[16:35] <induz> also can i add a HD as a slave
[16:35] <netsurf3> dimitris, sudo apt-get install cheese
[16:36] <induz> I read that ubuntu is Hardwares specific??
[16:36] <netsurf3> give that ago above anything else right now
[16:36] <Slagwag> probably a simple issue
[16:36] <go8765> _jason, In man vuze I found instruction how to run it. but I cant put it one command. so I asked is any difference in this two commands. because, another command work for me
[16:36] <Slagwag> uploaded a website to /var/www but added it to a subfolder by mistake
[16:36] <Slagwag> is there a way to move all files/folders from /var/www/subfolder to -> /var/www/
[16:37] <hateb> When I wanna change my admin password to new one it says that it is to similar to old one, so what it is ? I want it anyway, but I can't ><
[16:37] <ikonia> hateb: just change it to 123456 then change it straight away to your new one
[16:38] <urlin2u> hateb, tyoe passwd in the terminal and change it.
[16:38] <urlin2u> typee
[16:38] <prower> hello everyone :> i've installed the nvidia drivers manually (290.10), but when i reboot it's trying to load the driver used by jockey instead (280.13) and causes an api mismatch...is there any way that i could stop the old module being loaded altogether?
[16:38] <Slagwag> ah maybe its - mv -i --reply=no SOURCE/* DEST
[16:38] <dimitris> I installed the cheese, but the camera doesn't work.
[16:39] <dimitris> The picture freezes.
[16:39] <netsurf3> but you get an image?
[16:39] <dimitris> A fuzzy image.
[16:39] <netsurf3> if you go into the preferences is there more than one option for the webcam?
[16:40] <netsurf3> sometimes linux is weird and accesses the cam through two devices. The wrong one gives you those problems
[16:40] <dimitris> Let me check...  since I am very new, please tell me where to find the preferences.
[16:41] <hateb> password is to osimple, kill me someone :)
[16:42] <hateb> maybe I wanna have simple password
[16:43] <go8765> hateb, ubuntu better know what password you  need :)
[16:43] <Sideev> netsurf3: I don't have much of information on that. can you provide me little more information on where can I find the patches & all?
[16:43] <hateb> maybe it does but I still should be able to use weak password if I want to
[16:43] <hateb> and since when 6 char password is so simple
[16:44] <dimitris> Where do we find the preferences for the cheese?
[16:44] <urlin2u> hateb, in case you don't know freewill is a illusion.
[16:44] <manuel_> hello guys, i have an ubuntu derivated distro, how may i force the spanish locale trough the terminal?
[16:45] <Resistance> manuel_:  "ubuntu derived" distro?
[16:45] <Resistance> manuel_:  do you mean mint?
[16:45] <hateb> you wanna start filozofical discussion here, really :)?
[16:45] <hateb> ok, thx for help guys
[16:45] <xangua> manuel_: ask in your distro channel/forum/stack exchange
[16:45] <manuel_> Resistance: yes xd
[16:45] <Resistance> !mint | manuel_
[16:46] <dimitris> Please help us newbies find the preferences for Cheese.
[16:46] <manuel_> xangua: the commands will be the same!
[16:46] <Resistance> manuel_:  ask in that location, or go onto mint forums, or stackexchange
[16:46] <netsurf3> dimitris, hmm just had a look through and found the patch you'd probably need. I sincerly doubt it would work nicely with anything though as you need the 3.2 kernel (which i currently know nothing about) the regression was ment to be introduced in 2.6.37 so if you can find a kernel lower than that the issue should not be present
[16:46] <urlin2u> hateb, its not philosophy think about it.
[16:47] <alexhanh> hi, ideas why i'm getting sub-process returned an error code? http://www.pastie.org/private/sjt97jmkbkefvv3qkwcka
[16:47] <manuel_> Resistance: OMG, i think that policy is unfair, taking in account that they are almost the same and that i am seeking for command line help
[16:48] <prower> anyone have any idea as to how i could disable the nvidia dkms module from being loaded on boot? without removing dkms altogether that is :<
[16:48] <m_fulder> hello
[16:48] <dimitris> So, can we find out if we have the 3.2 kernel without breaking our heads?
[16:48] <aendruk> How can I access the files beneath a mountpoint? I tried using 'mkdir /newpath; mount --bind /mountpoint /newpath', but /newpath still contains the files from the filesystem mounted at /mountpoint, not the files stored on the disk within the folder /mountpoint.
[16:48] <xangua> dimitris: uname -a
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> dimitris  uname -r
[16:48] <Resistance> manuel_:  if you have an issue with the policies, its generally not my decision.  Mint isnt a supported derivative of ubuntu, hence why we have the factoid
[16:48] <netsurf3> dimitris, what distro are you running inc the codename?
[16:48] <m_fulder> I wonder, if I have some folders containing shortcuts to other folders/files. Can I somehow create a zip archive of thoes but still have the shortcuts-structure?
[16:49] <m_fulder> i.e. so the zip will contain shortcuts instead of the files the shortcuts are pointing to?
[16:49] <dimitris> I have the 3.0.0-14-generic
[16:51] <dimitris> So, does that mean we can use the patch?
[16:52] <dany75> ciao
[16:52] <dany75> !list
[16:52] <alexhanh> alexhanh: for some reason I had removed /tmp -- creating it solved the problem
[16:54] <Resistance> manuel_:  here's the lists of othe supported derivatives.  only those derivatives are supported in the Ubuntu IRC channels: http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[16:55] <netsurf3> dimitris, just looking into this for you
[16:56] <vinny> ubuntu One is buggy
[16:56] <leequarella> I have a program that I installed via `sudo make install` (the program is wkhtmltopdf) but it is failing to execute and I think it may be a permission problem.  are apps in the /bin dir globally accessable?
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> vinny  thank you for informing us
[16:58] <m_fulder> anyone? can I create a zip contingin shortcuts?
[16:59] <Olafur> good after noon, I was wondering if someone knew how i can get some sound on ubuntu 11.10  for some reason nothing hears out of the speakers
[16:59] <rcmaehl> Okay I have a pc in which the grub appears to be deleted as the pc just blinks and never gets past BIOS because the HDD doesn't seem bootable. How do I reinstall grub from a inside liveusb?
[16:59] <vinny> MonkeyDust  you want to know why?
[16:59] <xrdodrx> leequarella, they should be, but it's possible it isn't readable by you. what's the output of ls -l /bin ?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> vinny  i don't use it
[17:00] <xrdodrx> !bug | vinny
[17:00] <teage> If i compile a program like say, qt version 4.7 and install to home folder, is that some how different than the default install using sudo apt-get?? It installed just fine but another program that depends on it will not compile and is complaining that I need ffmpeg when I know its already installed.
[17:01] <roberto> j
[17:01] <xrdodrx> teage, it's much different. Did you install with sudo make install, sudo checkinstall or did you install without root and changed your --prefix?
[17:01] <nightshade209> rcmaehl: try this: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7 (usual disclaimers apply - be careful etc etc)
[17:02] <rcmaehl> nightshade209: I didn't install windows though
[17:02] <rcmaehl> all I did was remove bootchat and rebooted
[17:02] <nightshade209> rcmaehl: yes, but the procedure for recovering grub2 might still work
[17:03] <teage> xrdodrx, cant even get to the install part. wont get past config and my prefix is this........../configure --prefix=/usr/local/tupi --with-qtdir=/home/teage/qt/qt
[17:03] <netsurf3> dimitris, okay possible easy fix
[17:03] <xrdodrx> rcmaehl, install grub via "grub-install /dev/sda", where /dev/sda is your boot disk
[17:03] <netsurf3> dimitris, you said your machine is a tablet
[17:03] <rcmaehl> xrdodrx: I have a seperate boot partition
[17:04] <netsurf3> does it have a keyboard?
[17:04] <rcmaehl> and nightshade209's link should work
[17:04] <rcmaehl> i think  :\
[17:04] <xrdodrx> rcmaehl, it accepts partitions as arguments as well
[17:04] <nightshade209> rcmaehl: i had screwed up my grub2 sometime, it usually works...
[17:04] <rcmaehl> ubuntu 11.10 uses grub2 right?
[17:04] <induz>  I have 512MB of two bar memory...I tried to change them with 512 DDR2 RAM...is it possible...r they the same??
[17:04] <nightshade209> rcmaehl: there's one in the ubuntu documentation somewhere, can't seem to find that tho
[17:05] <rcmaehl> not grub?
[17:05] <nightshade209> rcmaehl: yup, grub2
[17:05] <induz> is pc2 type RAM is similar to DDR memori sticks
[17:05] <hateb> anyone else have a problem with f.lux on ubuntu ?
[17:05] <xrdodrx> induz, No.
[17:06] <Pici> induz: no, and ##hardware please
[17:06] <QuantumQuanta> What directory should I stick my self-created scripts into so that they are on the $PATH and can be run without hassle?
[17:06] <xrdodrx> QuantumQuanta, whatever folder you want, then add that folder to your path
[17:06] <QuantumQuanta> xrdodrx: There's not a standard way of doing it?
[17:06] <Pici> QuantumQuanta: Often ~/bin/ is often used.
[17:07] <induz> ok
[17:07] <xrdodrx> QuantumQuanta, PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.scripts is what I use
[17:07] <xrdodrx> put that in your .bashrc
[17:07] <QuantumQuanta> xrdodrx: thanks, that was my next questino
[17:07] <induz> i have 1 GB RAM on this desktop... is it ok to rumUbuntu 10
[17:08] <nightshade209> induz: yes
[17:08] <xrdodrx> induz, you might want to use 10.04 LTS as 10.10 is EOL
[17:09] <xrdodrx> oh, nevermind
[17:09] <xrdodrx> It's not EOL yet, sorry
[17:09] <nightshade209> induz: xrdodrx: i am running 11.10 on 1GB RAM, works fine
[17:10] <K-4U> Soo. i´ve got an issue here with a bash script. It works on one pc, but doesn´t on the other
[17:11] <K-4U> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/530960/ <-- who can help me?
[17:13] <netsurf3> dimitris, okay we have several options you can try: 1) when you next start the computer up select the option from grub and press E to edit the boot option. Go to the end of the line where it says "splash quite" after this bit add  "pcie_aspm=force" it is important you dont add or delete anything else to these lines. press ctrl-x and see if that makes things work better.
[17:14] <netsurf3> 2) there is a repo you can add that potentially fixes the problem automagically
[17:14] <netsurf3> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1874306&page=4
[17:14] <netsurf3> https://launchpad.net/~ptn107/+archive/ppa <- the ppa with the kernel already patched
[17:15] <zivester> i have a 128gb SSD, is 20gb big enough for /, while having /home for the rest ?
[17:15] <xrdodrx> zivester, I use 10GB
[17:16] <K-4U> Letmetry again... Is there somebody here who can look at this output en tell me what is happening? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/530960/
[17:16] <Pici> zivester: Yes, that should be fine.
[17:17] <robbbie> K-4U: what are you wondering?
[17:17] <K-4U> robbbie: What what do you mean?
[17:17] <zivester> do I use an MBR or GUID for the Scheme?  I'm formatting manually because I'm migrating
[17:18] <Awumpa> Hi. When I am trying to install ubuntu I get to this screen (http://i.imgur.com/rofXk.jpg) but when I try to start I have no input on the monitor. I get a boot sound, but no input. Anyone know what's wrong?
[17:18] <robbbie> K-4U: i am looking at your paste..
[17:18] <h00k> Awumpa: what version of Ubuntu is that?
[17:18] <K-4U> robbbie: Well, why does it work on one pc, but not on the other, while it is the exact same file?
[17:18] <Awumpa> 11.10
[17:18] <h00k> Awumpa: what graphics card do you have?
[17:18] <Awumpa> 6150SE
[17:19] <dimitris> netsurf3 thank you very much for the big help untill now ! I will try it later and i will come some time in again. Thank you again !
[17:20] <h00k> Awumpa: try by verifying the USB, first, then maybe someone familiar with that issue can help, alternatively, I'll throw you a factoid about nvidia
[17:20] <h00k> !nvidia | Awumpa
[17:21] <robbbie> K-4U: paste stat /etc/openvpn/up.sh from both
[17:21] <Olafur> so i dont repost, did someone see what i wrote? had connection problems,,, have problem with my sound
[17:21] <h00k> Olafur: you can repost, otherwise it's really hard to keep track of what people said in the past
[17:21] <Awumpa> Fairly new, but how would I get to the terminal if Ubuntu won't launch properly?
[17:22] <krinetic> fuck you guys
[17:22] <K-4U> robbbie: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/530963/ <-- must say that i have just updated the file, because somehow the working pc has the files in /usr/sbin, and the not working has them in /sbin
[17:23] <h00k> Awumpa: you should be able to test integrity from that boot menu
[17:23] <go8765> Olafur, yea. Its bettaer to repost
[17:23] <go8765> *better
[17:23] <Awumpa> When I go into advanced options there are no other options
[17:24] <robbbie> K-4U: rm stat.sh on the one that isn't working and recreate it. first see the output of file up.sh for each as well
[17:24] <robbbie> K-4U: i mean up.sh
[17:24] <Olafur> hello,, am i connected here?
[17:25] <xrdodrx> Olafur, yes
[17:25] <robbbie> K-4U: file type should be 'regular' file, as you can see there is some weird stuff going on with stat. `up.sh' should be the file, also its 4 bytes bigger.. maybe some null bytes? dunno
[17:25] <xrdodrx> .31
[17:26] <K-4U> robbbie: ¨Normaal bestand¨ means ¨regular file¨. Sorry, thought i had the setup in english.. It´s dutch ;)
[17:27] <robbbie> K-4U: oh :)
[17:27] <ForNickAteHer> Clicked the 'part all' button by mistake but noticed highlighted windows...did someone mention me here before I left?
[17:27] <Remy> Hey guys. :)
[17:27] <K-4U> robbbie: Okay.. weird, it works now... :\
[17:28] <xrdodrx> ForNickAteHer, your nick hasn't been mentioned in this room for the last 12 hours
[17:28] <Olafur> ok, finally got connected to xchat
[17:28] <Olafur> I have problem with my sound, there isnt any. there doesnt seem to be a missing plug in or driver
[17:28] <docmur> How do you compile against the included mongo c driver for ubuntu, it's in the apt-get repository
[17:28] <K-4U> robbbie: Or, at least, it doesn´t give me any weird errors now :\
[17:28] <ForNickAteHer> xrdodrx thanks
[17:28] <K-4U> robbbie: Okay! And my openvpn server started! :D Thanks! :)
[17:28] <Olafur> I am running on ubuntu 11.10, mother board is gigabyte and graphics card is nVidia
[17:29] <opalepatrick> Recently installed ubuntu 11.10, just getting around to sorting out sound out problem. I noticed with ekiga and tried sound recorder. No sound. So where do I go to start sorting it?
[17:29] <acidfrost> docmur, apt-get source nameofpackage
[17:29] <Olafur> all are recent
[17:29] <docmur> I have it installed
[17:29] <docmur> I just need to know how to compile against it
[17:29] <opalepatrick> I can hear fine (using headphones)
[17:29] <Olafur> graph card and mother board
[17:29] <docmur> I've always used the source directly
[17:30] <acidfrost> docmur, compile against something means relatively little to me you'd have to elaborate
[17:31] <docmur> compile against as in use gcc to compile against a library, hence compile against
[17:32] <acidfrost> docmur, -L/path/to/lib
[17:32] <Remy> Will Xubuntu 11.10 recognize my Intel's drivers on an ASUS netbook (Eee PC 1001PXD)?  I can't get my system to detect my drivers (if netbooks even have any drivers worth installing).  Also, how can I force Xubuntu to give me Read AND Write permissions to my Windows partition?
[17:32] <induz> ok
[17:32] <Olafur> I have problem with my sound, there isnt any. there doesnt seem to be a missing plug in or driver
[17:32] <Olafur> I am running on ubuntu 11.10, mother board is gigabyte and graphics card is nVidia
[17:32] <xrdodrx> Remy, have you installed it yet?
[17:32] <xrdodrx> It should.
[17:33] <Remy> Nope.  I go to Additional Drivers, and it doesn't detect anything.  It just says something like "There are no available drivers to be installed."
[17:35] <urlin2u> Remy, is the live cd running good? ubuntu will automatically have read write access to windows.
[17:36] <Remy> Oh, it's a netbook.  I don't have a CD-ROM drive.
[17:36] <jare1> hi
[17:36] <urlin2u> Remy, right are you running a live desktop?
[17:37] <jare1> How can I change the default selection color (which is red-is) ?
[17:38] <Remy> urlin2u, I am not, but I am intrigued how using a Live USB would allow my Xubuntu partition to gain permanent Read AND Write access to my Windows partition.  You see, I want to run my Windows programs through Wine, but I've run into problems in the past because I didn't have Write permissions.
[17:39] <urlin2u> Remy, I know nothing about wine... a dual boot is a better solution in my personal opinion. Make sure when you post that all the variables are posted rather then oh by the way when I said windows I meant wine.
[17:40] <Olafur> does anyone know how to get sound on ubuntu 11.10, i am starting to think im missing a driver, but i cant seem to find it
[17:40] <urlin2u> !sound | Olafur
[17:41] <athlon3d> Where to send a bugreport?
[17:41] <urlin2u> !bug
[17:41] <Olafur> ubottu: thanks, ill go over those sites and figure things out
[17:41] <Olafur> did not know tat
[17:42] <Remy> urlin2u, Well yeah, but both are important to each other.  I can't run my Windows programs through Wine if I can't write "executable file" permissions on my programs.
[17:43] <Remy> It's like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/ExecutableBit
[17:43] <Yaktrack5> hi evrydody
[17:43] <athlon3d> I find it in bluetooth...
[17:44] <Remy> hey Yaktrack5.
[17:44] <rts>  hi all, i have a question about 1gbit nics + ubuntu in general. i have here a built in RTL based nic which tends to drop frames when sending data over the network... which nics do you recommend in order to achieve high transfer rates (>40MB/sec)?
[17:44] <athlon3d> Can anybody try to send file to bluetoth device named Jheng wai GSM/"/"
[17:44] <athlon3d> ?
[17:44] <Yaktrack5> hi remy
[17:45] <Yaktrack5> I don't know rts
[17:46] <Yaktrack5> byed
[17:46] <Yaktrack5> bye*
[17:48] <urlin2u> Remy, All I can say is I don't know why people even use wine, there are other options, at the worse a 2 min reboot time.
[17:50] <Remy> urlin2u, Okay. Thanks dude. Would you know of any other apps that I can use to play my Windows games on Xubuntu?
[17:50] <MrPockets> What port does apt need open outbound to update?
[17:51] <rts> apt requires either port 80 when using http or 20/21 when using ftp...
[17:51] <Olafur> for some reasons those advises did not work
[17:51] <bluegrue> Remy; have you tried running them under virtualbox or something?
[17:52] <Olafur> it is impossible to get any sound... every thing is plugged in, not on mute and no sound
[17:52] <urlin2u> Remy, I'm not a gner so I'm not familiar with stuff there is something called playonlinux you might look at.
[17:52] <urlin2u> gamer
[17:52] <rts> MrPockets: or a custom port, depending on whether you are using a local mirror and that mirror is configured to another port other than standard http or ftp
[17:52] <Remy> Oh! I forgot about virtualbox. I'll have to install that later.  Cool, thanks for the tips, urlin2u and bluegrue
[17:52] <Remy> Gtg. bye!
[17:53] <urlin2u> Remy, cool I assumed you had thought of a virtual.
[17:55] <robde> hi. I have my first server. it is ubuntu 9.10
[17:56] <robde> and i'm wondering why there are almost no packages available in apt-get?
[17:56] <Olafur> aha, Im missing the sound file for ubuntu 11.10, where can i get it?
[17:56] <tota-x>  8181
[17:56] <Pupuser-2> hi...can many Linux distros share 1 swap partition
[17:57]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[17:57] <who_me> robde, ubuntu 9.10 reached end of life and is not supported since april 2011
[17:58] <robde> who_me, is it possible to update remotely to a supported version of ubuntu?
[17:59] <citadelgrad> Any recommendations for IRC clients? I'm using XChat and want to hide all the noise.
[17:59] <xangua> !eol | robde
[17:59] <OneSquared> Hello, i installed apache, php and mysql. I added file index.php. But when i open browser. i see tag php... Do you know why ? I don't find a good conf for httpd or php.ini
[18:00] <who_me> robde, never did an upgrade remotely nor would I attempt to :/
[18:00] <Olafur> also, I would like to get wobbly windows working, does anyone know how to do that on ubuntu 11.10
[18:00] <citadelgrad> OneSquared: You should enable PHP in apache.
[18:00] <oCean> citadelgrad: right click on the channeltab, settings > hide
[18:00] <OneSquared> citadelgrad, How enable php ? Where ?
[18:00] <who_me> robde, for server stuff it is a very good idea to use LTS releases. 10.04 is the latest one and there will be 12.04 later this year.
[18:01] <rts> robde: i have done multiple upgrades and dist-upgrades on my vserver until canonical/ubuntu decided to remove the existing older distributions from their apt repository... i worked quite well, even with the limitations of the vserver
[18:01] <citadelgrad> OneSquared: Enable in the apached configure files.
[18:02] <Olafur> I am missing the sound file on ubuntu 11.10, where/ how can I get it?
[18:02] <devmikey> Question: Does ubuntu.org offer paid support like redhat does?
[18:02] <magpii> i recently unchecked the show menus option in preferences menu, how can i add it again
[18:02] <oCean> OneSquared: if you've install php5 properly it should have enabled the php5 apache module. But you can enable it anyway:  sudo a2enmod php5, then restart apache
[18:03] <OneSquared> Sorry citadelgrad but i'm a nood in unix admin. Can you tell me how to do exactly?
[18:03] <oCean> devmikey: yes, by Canonical: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/overview
[18:03] <crx890> oCean, i think it depends on by which order are those things installed.
[18:03] <OneSquared> oCean, Ok thanks
[18:03] <magpii> what i mean is, where u can decide what is shown in menus, i unchecked the menus option by mistake
[18:03] <crx890> maybe he should check if php mod for apache is install
[18:03] <devmikey> oCean: do other distributions?
[18:03] <oCean> crx890: oh, that could be yes
[18:04] <trippy> i have a question not related to ubuntu.. but i could find no other support for this problem.. may i ask??
[18:04] <oCean> devmikey: other supported distro's? Well, there is Suse
[18:04] <tjiggi_fo> devmikey, http://www.ubuntu.com/business/services/overview
[18:04] <devmikey> any of the bsds?
[18:06] <trippy> is that a no???
[18:06] <crx890> no, go away ;)
[18:06] <docmur> does any one know how to fix the font issue on Ubuntu server 11.10 http://pastebin.com/PF6vDDzy,  Or does anyone know what font is missing on the system
[18:07] <OneSquared> oCean, a2enmod doesn't exist :/ (I installed apache from source).
[18:08] <trippy> crx890: any advice where to look for debian support??
[18:08] <pangolin> trippy: #debian
[18:08] <llutz> trippy: #debian
[18:08] <trippy> i tried #debian already
[18:08] <llutz> trippy: #debian on oftc
[18:08] <crx890> i have no idea..
[18:08] <crx890> but he could try to apt-cache | filter it
[18:08] <trippy> nobody is talking.. just a bunch of joining and leaving going on in there..
[18:08] <crx890> and find php module for Apache
[18:08] <crx890> it should install all deps automatically
[18:09] <robde> rts: what's the best way to do such a remote upgrade?
[18:09] <rts> tippy: just ask your question :D
[18:09] <llutz> trippy: well, this is #ubuntu only. go wake some people up in the given channels
[18:09] <drakekin> Hey. I'm having some trouble getting wifi working on a fresh install of ubuntu server. When I run lspci the card shows up as an Ethernet controller (which is odd, since the card has no ethernet port).
[18:09] <trippy> thanks llutz...
[18:10] <rts> robde: ssh into the server, backup vital data, do apt-get upgrade, then modify your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the next distribution available, for example replace all occurrences of maveric by natty, then do apt-get dist-upgrade..., finally kneel down and pray that everything works as expected :D
[18:11] <blitz> is there any way to hibernate, so I could boot up on my other partition do something, and then resume where I was
[18:11] <drakekin> Can anyone help point me in the right direction to get wifi working?
[18:11] <perrottino> ragazzi è normale che in dev/sda1/ mi dà in totale 53 Gb però dal bios in totale mi dà 60 Gb ovvero non è che ho fatto qualche casino con virtualbox, ho formattato e basta dovevo formattare prima la macchina virtuale?
[18:12] <dr_willis> drakekin:  ubuntu has a hibnernate/suspend feature.. but i never use it. You need swap at least as big as your ram I recall. perhaps a little more
[18:12] <blitz> well here goes
[18:12] <prince_jammys> !it | perrottino
[18:12] <robde> rts: :D alright. I'm gonna try that now
[18:13] <dr_willis> Oh that was for blitz  :) scrolled messages too fast
[18:13] <rts> drakekin: have a look at the wpa-supplicant package, if you are using the wifi card / usb stick in unmanaged mode
[18:14] <athlon3d> hi! I have some problem with sound output in gnu solfege. When I play sound via timidity there is some zipper noise.
[18:14] <perrottino> ops... sorry....
[18:14] <syddraf> Does anyone know why it looks like SILC support was dropped from pidgin in 11.10?
[18:15] <Awolf> guys i get this error when i try to run synaptic
[18:15] <Awolf> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::out_of_range'
[18:15] <Awolf>   what():  vector::_M_range_check
[18:16] <tuskaa> Hello everyone!
[18:16] <perrottino> bye!
[18:16] <drakekin> rts: At the moment it's not showing the card in ifconfig or iwconfig.
[18:16] <rts> drakekin: which card are you using?
[18:17] <tuskaa> Anyone with correct knowledge about sound drivers (mean PulseAudio/Alsa)?
[18:17] <rts> drakekin: have you modprobe'd the card?
[18:18] <drakekin> rts: Marvel 88w8335
[18:19] <rts> drakekin: have you checked out http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/marvell-88w8335-chipset-netgear-wg311-pcicard-driver/ already?
[18:19] <OneSquared> php5 is enable in file httpd, apache is restarted. But my browser always display <?php echo "Hello World"; ?>
[18:19] <tuskaa> So here's the thing : Just installed proprietary drivers for Nvidia (570) GPU, and lost any kind of sound in the process. Tried reinstalling PulseAudio, fail'd, tried reinstalling ALSA, fail'd, compiling ALSA, fail'd. Anyone got any idea?
[18:20] <drakekin> rts: Thanks, I'll try that
[18:20] <syddraf> OneSquared: It is saved in a .php file right?
[18:21] <rts> drakekin: well, the information is quite dated (2008) and it basically says that the driver is still in work...
[18:22] <rts> drakekin: is it an internal or external card (usb)?
[18:22] <overdub> is there a safe way to remove old kernels and related files from my /boot partition?
[18:23] <dr_willis> overdub:  the package manager tools. if they were installed by the pacakge manager
[18:23] <rts> overdub: well, it basically boils down to editing the /boot/grub/grub.lst/conf file and rm'ing the unwanted kernels, initrds and configurations...
[18:23] <drakekin> rts: internal card
[18:24] <Kvaks> Will installing the jack sound dæmon likely cause me issues with a stable and working standard PulseAudio, or should it be a smooth ride to have both installed at the same time? I'm not going to bother if it will cause a lot of trouble.
[18:24] <overdub> rts: I want to free up space on /boot since this install is on a USB stick and I don't have much room
[18:24] <tuskaa> So, no one got any idea? I lurked the forums for about 5 hours now, with no compliant results.
[18:24] <overdub> dr_willis: I'll look into package manager tools
[18:25] <dr_willis> !apt | overdub
[18:25] <OneSquared> syddraf, Sorry i have disconnected.
[18:25] <Knorre> man
[18:25] <rts> drakekin: perhaps you try the proprietary drivers provided by marvell : http://www.marvell.com/support/downloads/ and search for linux drivers kernel 2.4.x and higher
[18:25] <Knorre> being a newbie to linux and ubuntu (having used windows all my life) this opens up WORLDS of comfort and awesomeness
[18:25] <Knorre> i'm on KDE :)
[18:26] <trism> syddraf: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=629222
[18:26] <athlon3d> Is anybody know how to fix zipper nois in timidity?
[18:26] <OneSquared> syddraf, Do you know my problem ?
[18:27] <rts> overdub: dr_willis has a point here , perhaps try apt-get remove old-kernel-version, too -- i for my part prefer the rm'ing of older kernels :D
[18:27] <syddraf> OneSquared: I've had problems with that if I didn't save it as a .php file.
[18:27] <dr_willis> rts:  if they were installed via the package managers.. that wouldent make sence to do it that way. :)
[18:28] <rts> :D
[18:28] <source1009> hi guys good new  year
[18:28] <overdub> rts: apt-get remove old_kernel_version sounds promising
[18:28] <Knorre> happy late new year!
[18:28] <OneSquared> syddraf, Yet my file is index.php :/
[18:29] <source1009> i need pk all .deb aver media volar hx ,i was changed the code ,burt not works
[18:29] <syddraf> OneSquared try running : "a2enmod php5"
[18:29] <syddraf> OneSquared: That will enable the mod in apache if it isn't.
[18:29] <dr_willis> source1009:  rephrase the question.. that made No sence at all.
[18:30] <OneSquared> syddraf, a2enmod : Command not found :/
[18:30] <rts> source1009: who is burt?
[18:30] <source1009> sorry but
[18:30] <syddraf> OneSquared: Are you running apache as your webserver?
[18:30] <rts> source1009: is it an avery media volar hx card?
[18:31] <source1009> yes
[18:31] <rts> source1009: have you tried the proprietary drivers provided by the vendor, if any?
[18:32] <xrdodrx> rts, rm'ing of old kernel versions isn't good because you might still have the headers and other files
[18:32] <xrdodrx> they'll also still appear in grub, but will be unbootable
[18:32] <xrdodrx> it's better to remove them through the package manager, that's what it's their for :/
[18:32] <source1009> but  page druivers is obsolete for  atctually kernel
[18:33] <source1009> not works in this kernel
[18:33] <TiMiDo> source1009, which kernel do you have? and which drivers are you trying?
[18:33] <source1009> we have  a problem with privative drivers
[18:34] <rts> source1009: i am afraid that unless they provide a newer version of their drivers for the kernel you are using, sound will be unavailable...
[18:35] <source1009> aver media don't want updater this drivers for linux
[18:35] <TiMiDo> source1009, add the user name to the audio group and log out are you using alsa?
[18:35] <rts> xrdodrx: dr_willis already pointed that one out, thanks :D
[18:35] <source1009> driver (a 827) aver media for lastest kernel
[18:35] <source1009> okey rts
[18:36] <TiMiDo> source1009, what language do you speak?
[18:36] <source1009> timido that isn't the problem
[18:36] <source1009> american english ,why?
[18:36] <TiMiDo> lol no wonders,
[18:36] <TiMiDo> ;P
[18:37] <TiMiDo> source1009, what have you done so far,?
[18:38] <xrdodrx> source1009, what is your native language
[18:39] <source1009> timido all ok , i was intalled in windows ,under windows works it :D
[18:39] <rts> lolz
[18:39] <source1009> is  much more faster :D
[18:40] <rts> *troll*
[18:40] <TiMiDo> what the hell
[18:40] <source1009> i am not troll
[18:40] <source1009> i am linux user
[18:41] <rts> forgot to say, troll kommt von troll dich :D
[18:41] <source1009> respect me pls
[18:41] <ksx4system> lol
[18:42] <|Anthony|> i am having some trouble getting a partition mounted with rw permissions.
[18:43] <xcyclist> I've been meaning to tell someone:  git pull, et al, are prompting for username with no echo.  I suspect this is a bug.
[18:43] <|Anthony|> this is my line in fstab:
[18:43] <|Anthony|> /dev/sda6	/home/anthony/VBox_OSs	auto	auto,exec,rw,user	0	0
[18:43] <|Anthony|> i tried defaults but same issue, no write permissions
[18:43] <xcyclist> It would be nice to know if this git username echo bug is already known about, or if I should document it.
[18:43] <rts> can you use auto for the filesystem spec in /etc/fstab?
[18:43] <|Anthony|> its owned by root
[18:44] <dr_willis> |Anthony|:  what FS is it using?
[18:44] <|Anthony|> yes auto is allowed
[18:44] <|Anthony|> but its on ext3
[18:44] <|Anthony|> which i also specified
[18:44] <rts> |Anthony|: perhaps you need to specify the filesystem explicitly instead of using auto
[18:44] <|Anthony|> i did
[18:44] <|Anthony|> :)
[18:45] <dr_willis> |Anthony|:  as far as i know, you dont override the exec, or rw permissions on an ext2/3/4 filesystem via mount options.
[18:45] <source1009> :D
[18:45] <robde> I somehow can't really install packages.. it always fails allocating enough memory :/
[18:45] <dr_willis> can anyone else confirm/deny that?
[18:45] <|Anthony|> my original line was ext3 defaults
[18:45] <robde> memory exhausted
[18:45] <robde> failed
[18:46] <rts> robde: on what server/device are you trying to dist-upgrade?
[18:46] <|Anthony|> but that produced the same result... which is why i tried to explicitly set them
[18:46] <robde> rts: I did't try it yet. it's a "minimal installation" of ubuntu 9.10
[18:47] <Leinad90> I've Ubuntu 10.04 on Dell Mini 10. I'm using CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor 2.30.0 in GNOME. When I try to select some governor, it is changet whitin some minutes. Who can change it?
[18:47] <rts> robde: no, what i meant on which hardware device/server are you trying to dist-upgrade?
[18:47] <robde> rts: it's a vserver
[18:48] <rts> |Anthony|: have you tried e2fsck -n on /dev/sd6
[18:48] <robde> rts: 128 mb ram
[18:48] <xcyclist> I'd put it in launchpad, but it appears the bug writing access is off for me, probably because I've been too inactive.  Anyway, please someone put in a bug
[18:49] <xcyclist> saying that git prompts for username with no echo.
[18:49] <|Anthony|> no i have not rts
[18:49] <rts> robde: hm, that is a little bit tight...
[18:49] <rts> robde: perhaps you go ask your hoster/provider to install a newer ubuntu release for you then?
[18:51] <robde> rts: yes, that's what I thought too. but anyways, i'm almost unable to install anything.. it always stops due to insufficient memory
[18:51] <rts> robde: df -h -- perhaps your disk run out of space?
[18:51] <source1009> :D
[18:51] <taittinger> anyone with hp g6000 notebook succeeded to get the built in mic to work
[18:51] <robde> rts: 2.5G  681M  1.8G  28% /
[18:52] <rts> robde: it seems that your vserver's caps are not sufficient enought to do the upgrade, mine had at least 1024MB avail
[18:53] <rts> robde: -t
[18:54] <robde> rts: hm.. is the something like virtual memory I could enable?
[18:54] <rts> robde: is it a vserver that you can manage by yourself?
[18:54] <mod> I unfortunately updated my 10.10 and it killed my java plugin setup which was specificly fixed for working with Juniper's Network Connection VPN software.  The only plugin I can get to work is icedtea, but as my luck would have it, the Network Connect does not work with icedtea.  I had a sun java6 jre working before, but since updating I cannot get this to work again.  No matter what I do browers do not recognize the jre6 plugin.  Can I get some help please?
[18:56] <ssta> mod: there's a howto about it somewhere...hang on
[18:56] <robde> rts: ahhh! :) I just found a tiny little button in the web administation of it "reinstall vserver". and it offers 10.04 :)
[18:56] <rts> mod: same problem with my ubuntu 10.10 installation. i first installed oracle java 1.6 jre latest release and copied the plugin from $JAVA_HOME/lib/amd64/... to the browser's plugin directory. afterwards, the browser (firefox) required me to install the then found jre1.6.x plugin...
[18:57] <rts> robde: great :D
[18:57] <mod> rts, hmm yeah not wokring for me... ultimate would be to have it working in chrome
[18:57] <mod> rts, will try FF again since I had not done that since I followed: http://pluri.blogspot.com/2011/01/ubuntu-1010-juniper-network-connect.html
[18:58] <ecart> anyone know how to use the addon blowfish?
[18:58] <source1009> netstat :D
[18:58] <rts> mod: i am not familiar with juniper network... just my experience when trying to use the german tax administration's online portal
[18:59] <source1009> java plugin  need much kernel for work ,i not need java plugin
[18:59] <source1009> :D
[18:59] <ssta> junipernc is insanely badly written rubbish...but http://mad-scientist.us/juniper.html is a decent place to start
[19:00] <rts> source1009: for some use cases you actually do and want to do
[19:00] <ssta> personally I maintain a Virtualbox VM specifically to use junipernc...otherwise it locks out the main machine
[19:02] <source1009> ssta virtual box is a fake ,sucks
[19:02] <source1009> the people needs  good software,not fakes
[19:02] <source1009> oke ;)
[19:02] <source1009> apple have both things
[19:02] <FloodBot1> source1009: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:02] <source1009> example :d
[19:02] <ssta> "fake"?
[19:03] <syddraf> ssta: Seems like fanboy trolling to me.
[19:03] <mod> rts, man I've copies this .so all over the place, no luck.  Which .so did you use?  ns7? ns7-gcc?
[19:03] <ssta> ah, fair enough
[19:04] <desaila> Hi all.  I'm doing some desktop sharing between ubuntu 11.10 and os x lion.  i setup the vncserver via vino on the ubuntu box, connected from my mac, and i can click around and what not.  when i do that, things change on the remote box, but not in my vnc client.  i can see the cursor, etc, but it just doesn't seem to update anything i do.  any ideas?
[19:04] <rts> mod: there was a tutorial for that on the oracle site, lets see
[19:05] <rts> mod: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/manual-plugin-install-linux-136395.html
[19:05] <ssta> Oracle should just license their stuff better
[19:05] <Naphidia> what does ubuntu minimal install as a bootloader? And how do i change the ubuntu splash screen ?
[19:05] <rts> mod: it is called libnpjp2.so
[19:06] <IngForigua> hi :D
[19:06] <mod> rts, huh
[19:06] <IngForigua> someone knows tht games i can play on a lan network (no FPS) ty :D
[19:07] <mod> takng a peek, thanks
[19:07] <NewB_> Hi everyone! Is there a way to limit my cpu ? ( i have a 6 core cpu ... but i use ubuntu for regular day by day use. Web browsing, movies, music etc. and an extra disk with xp for play)
[19:07] <rts> me too, your welcome
[19:07] <dr_willis> desaila:  ive seen vino have similer issues -   Personally i use differnt vncservers, and i normally dont share the 'current visible desktop' but have a seperate hidden vnc session. as an alterantive theres synergy that lets you control the remote pc  but you have to be able to see its monitor. :)   Or theres teamviewer that may work better for you and shares the current desktop.
[19:08] <nu_dorm> hi to all. I've been testing 2 different laptops with *buntu distributions but I've never been able to make them see the whole 4GB of system RAM. In fact, both computers just see about 3GB. How can I solve it? thanks
[19:08] <ikonia> NewB_: why would you want to limit your cpu ?
[19:08] <desaila> ya, dr_willis.  i lOVE synergy
[19:08] <dr_willis> desaila:  i think theres a synergy2 out now,.,but ive not used it in ages.
[19:08] <dr_willis> nu_dorm:  it can often depend on the exact hardware from that i recall reading ages ago. :)
[19:09] <desaila> i was hoping for a true remote experience though.. planning on remoting in from outside the office
[19:09] <puff> Why does top show nm-applet at 2GB of memory? 1827 puff      20   0 1898m 491m 7932 S    0  6.2  30:25.66 nm-applet
[19:09] <IcemanV9> nu_dorm: kernel with -pae will see 4g of ram
[19:09] <desaila> how do you start a vncserver in ubuntu dr_willis ?  what's the command line
[19:09] <puff> And how can I stop/restart nm-applet?  Obviously, killing it will stop it it, but then restarting it?
[19:09] <dr_willis> desaila:  for over the internet. you dont want to use vino.  teamviewer would be a good easy solution. or a ssh tunnle.
[19:09] <rts> anyone tried vde2 yet? i am planning to set up multiple vlan layers with it, any experiences?
[19:09] <NimeshNeema> !man
[19:10] <NimeshNeema> !IRC
[19:10] <dr_willis> desaila:  'vncserver' is the command. :) theres several differnt vncservers to pick from. but you dont want to be using them over the internet.. without a ssh tunnle.
[19:10] <dr_willis> !vnc | desaila
[19:10] <spazzz> have we got netflix to work yet?
[19:10] <kcw45> hi all, i am having an annoying visual glitch on 12.04 alpha.  was wondering if anyone is experiencing this in any oneiric as well.  a screenshot found at: http://picpaste.com/bug-HCMPJ7ZH.png
[19:11] <NewB_> ikonia: want to peak cpu to 80%
[19:11] <dr_willis> spazzz:  Netflix is supposed to come out with a linux native client.. 'sometime this year'  from what  i recall reading in blog posts a few months back.
[19:11] <desaila> i vpn before i connect to the vnc, so i odn't think security is an issue dr_willis and ubottu
[19:11] <Spec> dr_willis: oh really.
[19:11] <desaila> unless i have no idea waht i'm taling about
[19:11] <ikonia> NewB_: why though ?
[19:11] <dr_willis> desaila:  vpn ;) makes it easier.
[19:11] <ikonia> NewB_: why would you not want to use %100 of your cpu's capabilities ?
[19:11] <ryoohki> is there a way t log power events?
[19:12] <ikonia> ryoohki: power events ?
[19:12] <abhinavmehta> I'm trying to manually configure my eth0 interface…but getting some error. http://pastebin.com/yxjZ6YTP
[19:12] <dr_willis> night all...
[19:12] <spazzz> dr willis is that umm moonlight or something like that,and thank you that answered my ? glad thier going to be coming out with it..
[19:12] <IcemanV9> kcw45: 12.04 is under development and things changed daily. also, there is a channel, #ubuntu+1, for any questions related to 12.04
[19:12] <ryoohki> ikonia: ac disconnect, ac reconnect, lid open, lid close...
[19:12] <abhinavmehta> I've provided error and my /etc/network/interfaces file
[19:12] <puff> I vaguely remember, at some time in the past, killing nm-applet and then having trouble getting it restarted again, so I wanted to ask here before I kill it.
[19:13] <ikonia> ryoohki: that's logged in the syslog
[19:13] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: why are you not using network manager ?
[19:13] <nu_dorm> IcemanV9: I can tell you for sure that even installing PAE kernel will solve the problem. I've already tried that
[19:13] <ryoohki> ikonia: can't find it in /var/log
[19:13] <abhinavmehta> I can use only terminal…its on VM, under Bridged mode
[19:13] <nu_dorm> dr_willis: pls gimme more details
[19:13] <spazzz> puff you remember helping me about the dvd was that you?
[19:14] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: do you have an eth0 device ?
[19:14] <abhinavmehta> yes..
[19:14] <abhinavmehta> its VMWare Fusion..so its there.
[19:14] <puff> spazzz: Not sure what you're talking about.
[19:15] <rts> make that network 192.168.1.0 instead of network 192.168.1.1
[19:15] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: youre gateway is unreachable
[19:15] <abhinavmehta> yes
[19:15] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: remove the gateway line and try it
[19:15] <abhinavmehta> give me a sec…let you know
[19:16] <spazzz> puff i figured it out now btw just wanted to tell you...it was simple i was being a noob...
[19:16] <abhinavmehta> ikonia: perfect…error gone. But now while ping 8.8.8.8, its saying unknown host
[19:16] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: because you won't have a route out
[19:17] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: you need to use a valid gateway
[19:17] <rts> ikonia: the network line is wrong
[19:17] <ikonia> rts: yes, I an see that too
[19:17] <spazzz> puff so if that was you pretty sure it was ty for your time..just got vlc player.
[19:18] <abhinavmehta> rts: okay I make the change to network
[19:18] <mod> rts, I don't see the .so named as you mentioned.  just dl'd from that link at oracle... whcih I'm pretty sure I've done before
[19:18] <rts> thanks, now off to watch some weird facebook relation stuff on dvd :D -- child molestation or something like that...
[19:18] <spazzz> see you later guys have a good day...
[19:18] <rts> it is called trust...
[19:19] <ubluntu> .......
[19:19] <abhinavmehta> rts: By changing that network, and uncommenting that gateway line…again its showing me the error
[19:19] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: don't uncomment the gateway, it's unreachable, it will never work
[19:20] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: the network needs to be 1.0 AND the gateway line needs to be valid
[19:20] <abhinavmehta> on my host os, eg. OSX…I can see that gateway is 192.168.2.1
[19:20] <abhinavmehta> so..I guess gateway is correct…plz correct me if I'm worng.
[19:20] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: is this a guest or the host ?
[19:21] <abhinavmehta> ubuntu is guest os, running inside VMWare…on OSx(host os)
[19:21] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: ok - so you are putting the guest on 192.168.1.X network, your gateway is 192.168.2.1 - 1.X cannot see 2.1
[19:22] <abhinavmehta> yes
[19:22] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: that is how it's meant to work
[19:22] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: that is correct, it should not be able to see 192.168.2.1
[19:22] <ikonia> it's a totally different network
[19:22] <abhinavmehta> but its in bridged mode..
[19:22] <ikonia> that doesn't change the addresses to magically work
[19:23] <abhinavmehta> :) okay...
[19:23] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: bridge mode bridges the physical devices, not the ip layer
[19:23] <abhinavmehta> got you..! thinking the other way round.
[19:23] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: get it ?
[19:23] <ikonia> perfect
[19:23] <abhinavmehta> yes..
[19:24] <humamiaz> i need help instaling my usb wireless device any help here?
[19:24] <syddraf> Does anyone know of a good program to host a VPN? I'm trying to set one up for my computers, but I've had troubles with pptpd
[19:24] <abhinavmehta> thanks ikonia rts :)
[19:24] <tristan3199us> how do i install a display driver??
[19:24] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: no problem, glad it clicked
[19:24] <ubluntu> no one else saw what that wierdo rts said ?
[19:24] <ikonia> ubluntu: if there is a problem, please report it in #ubuntu-ops, but please don't call people
[19:25] <ubluntu> ikonia: call people ?
[19:25] <abhinavmehta> ikonia: yes, indeed I was struggling stupid.
[19:25] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: nothing stupid about it, virtual networking is complex
[19:25] <abhinavmehta> ikonia: I really want to learn..more about it…whats good place to start with.
[19:26] <abhinavmehta> like any pointers in your head../
[19:26] <|Anthony|> wtf... i have compiz running on a dual x screen setup (nvidia binary) after many-a-headache but i lost my panel on my main screen. Also desktop cube breaks compiz
[19:26] <abhinavmehta> */ ?
[19:26] <ikonia> abhinavmehta: tons of docs on the net, just apply common sense to what you're reading
[19:26] <ikonia> |Anthony|: tone down the lanaguage
[19:26] <ikonia> language
[19:26] <abhinavmehta> hmm
[19:26]  * guest009 waves
[19:26] <abhinavmehta> okay..anyways thanks once again.
[19:26] <|Anthony|> sorry ikonia thought i did
[19:27] <syddraf> |Anthony| I had an issue where disabling Desktop Wall disabled almost every other compiz plugin. Took me a looong time to fix.
[19:27] <|Anthony|> folks on #compiz weren't too insightful
[19:27] <|Anthony|> lol
[19:28] <|Anthony|> it's nice though... compiz manages a profile for each screen
[19:28] <grunk> i want to upgrade thunderbird from 8 - > 9, can i just delete the old thunderbird dir and unpack from new archive (thunderbird-9.0.1.tar.bz2) to the same dir?
[19:28] <|Anthony|> just no cube and i lost my panel on my main screen
[19:28] <|Anthony|> give and take i suppose?
[19:29] <syddraf> grunk: I'd use a ppa and let the package manager handle it.
[19:29] <syddraf> grunk: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable
[19:31] <grunk> thnx will check it out :)
[19:32] <syddraf> grunk: No problem. It should just be "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install thunderbird"
[19:33] <zivester> so i just installed 11.10 on my desktop... booting into my account works fine but it freezes when booting into recovery mode at the menu.. i need to get to a root shell prompt... how do i do it?
[19:33] <ubluntu> zivester: sudo su
[19:34] <zivester> im modifying the users home directory so that's not an option
[19:36] <desaila> woot!
[19:37] <desaila> dr_willis: i installed tightvncserver and x11vncserver, removed vino, fired up x11vncserver and everything seems to work !
[19:41] <spaceneedle> Strange. Vlc player still has a bunch of weird symbols in place of letters. Tried reinstalling it--nothing changed. Wonder if i'm missing a language file.
[19:43] <ssta> zivester: you'll have to enable the root account
[19:49] <Tanvir> Hello, how to restart Unity launcher?
[19:49] <zivester> so i logged into the root account through the recovery console... and im trying to modify a uid ... but i get "usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later"
[19:54] <loin> can anyone help me make a bootable usb?
[19:54] <justin__> Does anyone know what can cause flex-config.xml to give "Error: null" when building with ant? Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
[19:55] <loin> i'm on a non-ubuntu linux machine and i tried dd and unetbootin, both methods failed, any suggestions?
[19:55] <genii-around> zivester: Is the root filesystem mounted read-write or read-only ?
[19:55] <Negat1ve-Zer0> Is there a way to do an unblocked read from the bash shell? let's say I'm writing a game and I want to get a keypress but I don't want to hang my game up waiting for the read to complete, anyone know how to do that?
[19:56] <TiMiDo> justin__, locate flex-config.xml in a terminal,
[19:56] <zivester> i just selected "drop to root shell prompt" from recovery mode
[19:56] <zivester> how do i get it read/write ?
[19:57] <justin__> TiMiDo: I have it open
[19:57] <genii-around> zivester: If you type: exit    it should bring you back to the menu from which you chose originally. There should be an option for " remount filesystems read-write" or similar. To choose that, then when it returns to menu, choose drop to root console again.
[19:58] <n0sq> what would cause firefox to pause after clicking on a link - moving the mouse pointer after a few seconds seems to make the browser go to the website
[19:59] <K1rk> I'm trying to get PDF embedded view working on Ubuntu, preferrably in Mozilla Firefox.  As instructed by the Internet, I installed mozplugger.  It is configured to launch evince for PDF files, which it does... however it still opens in the Evince reader as a new window.  I want to view PDFs inside the browser, so far I've only been able to do it with mozplugger+Adobe...I'd rather avoid Adobe.
[20:01] <CampinSam> Hey guys, quick question.. I've got ubuntu via wubi.. and I would love to toy with it more, but my wireless adapter (a AE1000).. doesn't work just by itself.. Now I can't download any drivers for it, because it's the only connection I have.. and I can't wire it up as well. Is there a place that I can download the drivers, and any instructions.. onto a usb, via windows.. then switching and dumping all that stuff onto my ubuntu boot?
[20:01] <CampinSam> If not.. is there any other solutions?
[20:04] <bearcub> anyone at their keyboards?
[20:04] <ssta> CampinSam: look into apt-offline
[20:04] <bearcub> yep...
[20:04] <reapingwo> anyone else use gecko-mediaplayer plugin to stream divx in browser?
[20:04] <bearcub> question:  Does anyone know ofa site that will list distrtribuitions based on system requirements?
[20:07] <rhaces> Hey Everyone.. the latest release of firefox 9.0.1 in my ubuntu broke a lot of things and I need to downgrade to 8.0.1. I wonder if someone knows what is the correct pin version to put on /etc/apt/preference, since if I put 8.0.1 (or anything with 8) I get a unknown pin version
[20:07] <Negat1ve-Zer0> Is there a way to do an unblocked read from the bash shell? let's say I'm writing a game and I want to get a keypress but I don't want to hang my game up waiting for the read to complete, anyone know how to do that?
[20:08] <zivester> that sucked but i finally got it... damn USB keyboards
[20:09] <zipace> Negat1ve-Zer0, not possible in bash, as every bash "command" is essentially a process (unless the command is declared as function, but still, a function may, and likely will, start subprocesses)
[20:09] <hateb> can you guys recommend good free image viewer ?
[20:10] <K1rk> hateb: for what formats?
[20:10] <K1rk> What image formats doesn't ubuntu already support?
[20:10] <bearcub> question:  Does anyone know of a site that will list distributions based on system requirements?
[20:10] <hateb> this ubuntu default one lacks some options
[20:10] <K1rk> bearcub...what are your system requirements?
[20:11] <K1rk> hateb gimp can view lots of images but it's also an editor
[20:11] <bearcub> P3 700, 256 MB ram
[20:11] <ssta> zivester: you can do some interesting stuff with stty.  It's a hack, but works
[20:11] <guest009> why doesn't ubuntu ship with gnash? is there any reason?
[20:11] <ssta> zivester: there's a bit about it in the advanced bash guide at TLDP IIRC
[20:11] <zipace> hateb, eog? :P
[20:11] <rhaces> Hey Everyone.. the latest release of firefox 9.0.1 in my ubuntu broke a lot of things and I need to downgrade to 8.0.1. I wonder if someone knows what is the correct pin version to put on /etc/apt/preference, since if I put 8.0.1 (or anything with 8) I get a unknown pin version
[20:11] <Negat1ve-Zer0> zipace: there's no way to do an unblocked read?? that screws me on writing this game
[20:11] <ssta> umm, Negat1ve-Zer0 even, sorry
[20:11] <justin__> Does anyone know what can cause flex-config.xml to give the message "Error: null" when building with ant?
[20:11] <zipace> guest009, because it's very unstable and doesn't support actionscript3 (which became defacto standard)
[20:11] <ssta> Negat1ve-Zer0: yes, stty hackery
[20:12] <K1rk> bearcub, to the best of my knowledge Wikipedia's requirements list for Ubuntu is accurate.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#System_requirements
[20:12] <Negat1ve-Zer0> ssta: sweet
[20:12] <K1rk> bearcub, if you want a minimal type of interface that will perform well on that hardware I'd look at xubuntu.
[20:12] <CampinSam> ssta, I've googled and such.. is app-offline debian only? or am I mistaken?
[20:12] <zipace> ssta, didn't know about stty. if it fits Negat1ve-Zer0's requirements, discard what i said :-)
[20:12] <guest009> K1rk: but i use debian's gnash and it's smooth on utube
[20:12] <CampinSam> apt-offline*
[20:12] <guest009> K1rk: so i don't need another download
[20:13] <ssta> CampinSam: no, it's in ubuntu.  The documentation is all Debian though I think.  It should still work.  http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Offline_Package_Management_for_APT
[20:13] <K1rk> guest009: where did you come from?
[20:13] <K1rk> I was not talking to you lol
[20:13] <CampinSam> ssta, Alright thanks, I'll look into it more then.
[20:13] <guest009> K1rk: same with you
[20:13] <hateb> hmm or at least change scroll whell in default image viewer so it switches to another image instead of zooming, doable ?
[20:13] <Negat1ve-Zer0> zipace: thanks, anywho :)
[20:13] <zipace> K1rk, i think he meant to write that to me, haha...
[20:13] <K1rk> lol
[20:14] <bearcub> ubuntu wants mor ream than is installed in teh mobo
[20:14] <bearcub> grr
[20:14] <zipace> guest009, well, video streaming is pretty basic, so it's not surprising that gnash supports it
[20:14] <guest009> K1rk: we are all from korea
[20:14] <zipace> but as soon as it gets more complex, it will barf
[20:14] <bearcub> ubuntu wants more ram than is installed in the mobo
[20:14] <ssta> CampinSam: there's also aptoncd, but I don't know much about that
[20:14] <K1rk> guest009: Interesting?  lol
[20:14] <guest009> K1rk: the only issue of gnash is high cpu usage but new cpus can handle it easily
[20:15] <zipace> bearcub, try a more lightweight DM like lxde or xfce?
[20:15] <guest009> lxde = chinese, strike out
[20:16] <zipace> i'm kind of boggled by guest009's preference of users, but hey if it makes you feel comfortable :P
[20:16] <ssta> chinese?
[20:16] <K1rk> How is my name even close to zipace, guest009?
[20:16] <K1rk> lol
[20:16] <guest009> chinese developers
[20:16] <zipace> haha, i don't know
[20:16] <guest009> ...
[20:16] <guest009> don't use a thing you don't know the background
[20:16] <zipace> so what? lxde is still pretty amazing, and amazingly lightweight
[20:16] <ssta> it's a FOSS project...who cares where the developers are from?
[20:17] <guest009> it's amazing for chinese, not for me
[20:17] <zipace> didn't you ask about gnash first? just wondering
[20:17] <guest009> i use gnome on ubuntu
[20:17] <txomon|home> guest009, we always use thing we don't know the backgroud
[20:17] <zipace> and i use XFCE. glad we settled that, then
[20:17] <txomon|home> background*
[20:17] <Negat1ve-Zer0> ssta: you don't happen do know how to make stty do that do you?
[20:18] <guest009> ubuntu should ship with gnash by default
[20:18] <rhaces> Hey Everyone.. the latest release of firefox 9.0.1 in my ubuntu broke a lot of things and I need to downgrade to 8.0.1. I wonder if someone knows what is the correct pin version to put on /etc/apt/preference, since if I put 8.0.1 (or anything with 8) I get a unknown pin version
[20:18] <ssta> Negat1ve-Zer0: Not from memory, no/  There's a section about it in the advanced bash scripting guide I'm pretty sure.
[20:18] <pauliax> hay, how to install ubuntu on gigabyte RAID-0?
[20:18] <txomon|home> guest009, why not vlc
[20:18] <hydruid_> i'm not sure which I like better, mint12 with Unity or ub11.10 with unity......for some reason it feels different
[20:18] <semonsh> ciao
[20:18] <semonsh> !lista
[20:18] <no-name-> does anybody actually like unity?
[20:18] <Negat1ve-Zer0> ssta: ok, I'll take a look at that, I think I already have that pulled up anyways, thanks
[20:19] <hydruid_> pauliax: so you only have a single drive?
[20:19] <zipace> rhaces, don't do that, unless you really want to. rather, download firefox manually, symlink /path/to/where/you/installed/firefox/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox
[20:19] <txomon|home> pauliax, is it done via LVM or hardware?
[20:19] <guest009> i need gnash to watch utube videos
[20:19] <hydruid_> no-name-: i hate it but i love how it integrates the top panel and maximized windows
[20:19] <txomon|home> no-name-, i don't at least
[20:19] <zipace> no-name-, i don't, haha
[20:19] <pauliax> RAID-0 via gygabyte on mothervboars
[20:19] <zipace> it's a total POS imho
[20:19] <hydruid_> yea but I'm bored with gnome so i'm giving it a shot
[20:19] <pauliax> p35-ds3
[20:20] <txomon|home> hydruid_, use gnome-shell
[20:20] <rhaces> zipace I was hoping to be able to do it by pinning the version in /etc/apt/preferences so that I can have a sort of "standard" installation without manually installing anything
[20:20] <guest009> what's wrong with gnome3?
[20:20] <hydruid_> pauliax: if you only have 1 hard drive, that will be raid 0 by default
[20:20] <dlentz> i'm not going to pass judgement on unity for a few more revisions
[20:20] <ssta> rhaces: you should be able to
[20:20] <zipace> rhaces, i understand, but manually installing firefox is really easy
[20:20] <dlentz> kde 4.0 was bad too
[20:20] <guest009> lol
[20:20] <hydruid_> txomon: i've tried a lot of desktop ui's but unity isn't that bad
[20:20] <guest009> how about unity?
[20:20] <zipace> rhaces, it's essentially just downloading+unpacking+symlinking
[20:21] <zipace> unity is awful, nuff said
[20:21] <guest009> for me, unity is acceptable
[20:21] <bearcub> the window systems look light weight, but what I was asking about was distributions(helping somone else pick one out)
[20:21] <sskalnik> Seeking a guide for creating a local apt repo - not a local apt cache server or mirror, not an offline repo or similar - but a totally separate repo. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'll appreciate it.
[20:21] <rhaces> thanks zipace.. if can't find a way with apt I would have to do it the way you say..
[20:21] <zipace> the missing taskbar in unity is the biggest killer
[20:21] <hydruid_> i have mint12 installed, which has a couple flavors of gnome and unity2d/3d
[20:21] <hydruid_> zipace: yea but i'm sorta getting used to tabbing more
[20:21] <bearcub> I'm berly literate myself, and don't really feel like learining how to swap window sstems
[20:22] <rhaces> ssta do you have an idea on what I need to put in preferences in /etc/apt/ ??? if I put Pin version 8.0.1 or whatever it doesn't work
[20:22] <pauliax> no its two drives on gigabyte p35-ds3, 500 seagete baracudas (yes its crap), acting as one - RAID-0
[20:22] <zipace> hydruid_, yeah, *if* the app supports tabs... some don't
[20:22] <ssta> rhaces: I'd have thought 8* would work
[20:22] <zipace> most don't, actually
[20:22] <bearcub> and why do most distro wikis make it a PITA to find system requirements
[20:22] <Jsn0327> Hi I need some help with an issue that I am having with PPTP server
[20:22] <hydruid_> zipace: hmm most of what i've been using today does......
[20:22] <zipace> bearcub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements? :P
[20:23] <zipace> quick google search for "ubuntu system requirements"
[20:23] <bearcub> can't do ubuntu
[20:23] <bearcub> system requrirements too high
[20:23] <hydruid_> wow must be an old system
[20:23] <guest009> yreally?
[20:23] <bearcub> mobo has 256 ram installed, maxes out at 384
[20:24] <hydruid_> ubuntu 8.04 :P
[20:24] <guest009> everybody has 16GB of ram, buddy
[20:24] <rhaces> ssta no it does/t.. I have Package: firefox Pin: 8* Pin-Priority: 800 and I get W: Did not understand pin type 8*
[20:24] <zipace> bearcub, in that case, get alternative installation, and only install what you need
[20:24] <bearcub> yeah, 8.04 isa kinda old...
[20:24] <hydruid_> guest009: i still have only 4gb
[20:24] <hydruid_> bearcub: so is the mb
[20:24] <bearcub> thera have beena number of security fixes since
[20:24] <dlentz> bearcub, have fun with crunchbang linux :)
[20:24] <ssta> rhaces: oh, syntax is: Pin: version 8*
[20:24] <guest009> if you have an old pc, just use bsds
[20:24] <zipace> bearcub, alternative installation will use the least memory
[20:24] <tidux> I noticed something in the release notes for Oneiric that isn't explained fully
[20:24] <ssta> rhaces: try that
[20:25] <Oer> bearcub, try Xubuntu
[20:25] <tidux> N10 graphics turning into jagged diagonal stripes when a second monitor is inserted isn't an Ubuntu-specific thing
[20:25] <mongy> bearcub, xubuntu or lubuntu will be ok
[20:25] <bearcub> again, PITA to find system reqs
[20:25] <tidux> that's what happens when the GMA3150 tries to composite desktops that are too big for it to render properly
[20:25] <ssta> rhaces: it's because you can pin on stuff other than version, so "version" is part of what you're pinning (as well as the version number)
[20:25] <zipace> freenode barf'd again
[20:26] <dlentz> Oer, xubuntu has gotten heavier with requirements
[20:26] <tidux> I saw the same thing happen on GNOME Shell on Fedora 16
[20:26] <rhaces> ssta now I didn't get the error but after apt-get install firefox I see Unpacking firefox (from .../firefox_9.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.11.10.2_i386.deb) ...
[20:26] <tidux> if there's a way for Unity to detect N10 graphics and multiple monitors, automatically switching to Unity 2D when there's more than one monitor connected would work
[20:26] <dlentz> lubuntu will run okay on 256mb though
[20:26] <hydruid> blahhh i had to switch from unity -> unity2d
[20:27] <Urchin> something is rewriting my /etc/resolv.conf with the IP of my router every few minutes, which contains nothing
[20:27] <Jsn0327> I have been trying for hours to resolve this issue, and i have not been able to... when i installed and configured PPTP server it started the server and i could connect no problem.  After i restarted the ubuntu 11.10 machine, I have not been able to connect to the server.  After trying to start the server and looking at the syslog this is the error that it is logging "pptpd[20217]: MGR: PPP
[20:27] <Jsn0327> options file /etc/ppp/options.pptpd#015 not readable"
[20:27] <hydruid> Urchin: are you releasing and renewing that often as well?
[20:27] <Urchin> hydruid I may be
[20:27] <guest009> Urchin: are you using dhcp?
[20:28] <Urchin> yes
[20:28] <ssta> rhaces: make the priority >990
[20:28] <Jsn0327> I thought that there was something wrong with the file or permissions, so i created a new file and copied just the settings (no comments) from the original config to the new file and saved it with the original config name and still got the error
[20:28] <hydruid> Urchin: is your dhcp server/router or whatever setup to hand out dns servers?
[20:28] <ssta> rhaces: pin priorities are tricksy things
[20:28] <Jsn0327> i changed the permissions on the file to 777 and still get the error!
[20:28] <guest009> Urchin: check your router
[20:28] <Urchin> it's some siemens crap
[20:28] <guest009> ylol
[20:28] <guest009> siemons?
[20:29] <hydruid> Jsn0327: fully path the client and server, then go back thru and do the setup again
[20:29] <guest009> i don't know they make routers
[20:29] <hydruid> Jsn0327: when you go back through just make sure everything is set correctly based on the guide you used
[20:29] <Negat1ve-Zer0> ssta: nvm, didn't have to use any stty tricks, read -t 0.001 -n3 key worked
[20:29] <ssta> rhaces: apt will not downgrade unless priority is >=1000 for example
[20:29] <hydruid> must be really old
[20:29] <ssta> Negat1ve-Zer0: ah, uber-hackery :)
[20:29] <rhaces> ssta Pin-Priority: 1000 and still the same... should I do something different than apt-get update && apt-get install firefox
[20:29] <hydruid> Urchin: you might hae to go static
[20:29] <rhaces> ssta I'm not even downgrading, I'm removing and reinstalling
[20:30] <ssta> rhaces: is version 8 even availble in your source?
[20:30] <Jsn0327> hydruid what do you mean fully path the client and server?
[20:30] <Urchin> ok, I've set the router to give me google's DNS (I hope)
[20:30] <zipace> ssta, really, manually installing would be so much easier than attempting to fiddle around with that :P
[20:30] <rhaces> ssta maybe not.. LOL!! how can I check that?
[20:31] <Urchin> I'll see how it goes
[20:31] <hydruid> Jsn0327: if the client and server are both ubuntu, make sure they are fully patched (meaning install all updates)
[20:31] <guest009> google dns is insecure - multicast
[20:31] <ssta> zipace: only if you plan to check for updates manually forever...
[20:31] <rhaces> zipace I know but I'm a little stubborn and want to know how to do it by pinning
[20:31] <zipace> ssta, haven't had that problem, firefox updated itself just fine
[20:31] <hydruid> Jsn0327: sorry my typing lol patch instead of path
[20:31] <Jsn0327> the server is ubuntu and is fully updated 11.10 and the client is my iphone and it is updated
[20:31] <ssta> rhaces: apt-cache search maybe?  I'd grep through the apt lists
[20:31] <guest009> don't use google dns or freedns if you don't know what you are doing
[20:31] <zipace> ssta, firefox has an internal update mechanism
[20:31] <guest009> chinese will hijack you
[20:32] <ssta> zipace: I just prefer to keep everything package managed if at all possible
[20:32] <Jsn0327> i did uninstall pptp and reinstall it and reset the configs
[20:32] <hydruid> Urchin: 4.2.2.2 and 8.8.8.8 are pretty common
[20:32] <zipace> ssta, so do I, except for firefox :p
[20:32] <Jsn0327> everything worked perfectly until i restarted ubuntu
[20:32] <zipace> guest009, you're not making much sense
[20:32] <Jsn0327> after installing pptp the first time it said "ureadahead will be profiled on next reboot" that is the only thing that i can see that may have messed something up
[20:32] <Naphidia> lol... thats like saying my wife wasn't pregnant until after i fucked her
[20:33] <hydruid> Jsn0327: did you patch both systems fully?
[20:33] <guest009> hehe, believe it or not
[20:33] <guest009> yi don't want to use dns servers of honkies
[20:34] <guest009> s/honkies/hongkies
[20:34] <hydruid> guest009: the sad thing is, google dns vs local ISP.....hmm which is the lesser of the 2 evils
[20:34] <Jsn0327> hydruid:  If you mean apply all available updates, yes.
[20:34] <ssta> install your own DNS server :)
[20:34] <guest009> if you have noticed - chinese and koreans are watching you
[20:34] <ssta> guest009: let em...
[20:35] <guest009> they are everywhere while you are surfing
[20:35] <hydruid> ssta: your local dns server still has to check with someone else
[20:35] <rhaces> ssta I guess that's the problem.. there's no version 8 in the repo.. from 7 it jumped to 9...
[20:35] <ssta> hydruid: that's what root servers are for :)
[20:35] <guest009> you should read your logs carefully
[20:35] <rhaces> ssta let me change it back to 7 and see if that works
[20:35] <hydruid> Jsn0327: try to connect with a different client just to verify it's not the iphone's fault
[20:36] <hydruid> ssta: yea but when who is going to manage your local dns server to make sure it doesn't get hacked?
[20:36] <ssta> guest009: can you be paranoid elsewhere for a while?
[20:36] <ssta> hydruid: umm, I am...
[20:36] <hydruid> ahhh see i'm lazy
[20:36] <Jsn0327> Another person had this same problem and left a comment in the guide for the author of the guide.  his reply was in german, but google translated his response to this "The problem is that you have to download it when you changed the files. Since a ^ m as line breaks in it. Edit the files .. then you go"  but i have no idea what he means by that
[20:36] <hydruid> i get motivated for a week to protect my local boxes and then forget about them
[20:37] <Jsn0327> I know that it isn't the iphone.  The pptp server is not starting because of this read error in the syslog
[20:37] <rhaces> ssta yes.. that did the trick..  I'm installing version 7 right now with the following in the preferences in /etc/apt/: Package: firefox Pin: version 7* Pin-Priority: 1000
[20:37] <hydruid> Jsn0327: do the files have this symbol in them ^M
[20:37] <ssta> rhaces: cool
[20:37] <ssta> Jsn0327: dos2unix (or just tr)
[20:37] <rhaces> ssta thank you very much
[20:38] <guest009> are you pushing his ass?
[20:38] <Urchin> no, it's not tied to lease time
[20:38] <Jsn0327> no.  To eliminate the possiblity of that, i created a new file and just copied and pasted the actual configuration commands to the new file and saved it as the original options.pptpd file
[20:38] <Urchin> lease time is 30 minutes
[20:38] <Jsn0327> ssta:  what do you mean?
[20:38] <syddraf> Does anyone know of a good program for hosting a VPN?
[20:38] <guest009> you can buy a router with vpn
[20:39] <Iceheart> Well, I didn't expect the irc to be this full lol
[20:39] <guest009> it's solid and simple
[20:39] <ssta> Jsn0327: dos2unix package can convert ^M (dos) line endings to unix line endings.
[20:39] <Iceheart> I have a question if anyone is willing to assist a new user.
[20:40] <guest009> i used to use my own c app to to that
[20:40] <Urchin> I removed write permission on resolv.conf, hope that works
[20:40] <syddraf> Iceheart: Just ask.
[20:40] <chuck1> go ahead
[20:40] <Jsn0327> guest009:  Thanks but I am not running this server from home.  I am using it on a vmware server that is not behind a router
[20:40] <ssta> Iceheart: just ask, please don't ask to ask :)
[20:40] <Iceheart> I'm currently operating ubuntu 11.04 and want to upgrade to 11.10 but the upgrade does not appear int the update manager
[20:40] <Jsn0327> ssta:  I'll try to convert the file with that utility.  Thank you
[20:40] <hydruid> Jsn0327: you don't have to convert unless it has these in it ^M
[20:41] <Iceheart> I have already checked the settings and it is set to normal releases.
[20:41] <guest009> Justasic: your attack surface is huge - when you take this solution
[20:41] <Jsn0327> hmm
[20:41] <Jsn0327> it doesn't
[20:41] <hydruid> Jsn0327: then thats not the problem
[20:41] <syddraf> Iceheart: It doesn't appear at the top like http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade ?
[20:41] <Jsn0327> I don't understand why it can't read the file!?
[20:41] <hydruid> what command do you use to start the server
[20:41] <ssta> Iceheart: at some point you would have been asked if you wanted to be told about new releases, or just LTS releases.  If you answered LTS only, then you won't have been told.  You can open a terminal and type: sudo do-release-upgrade
[20:41] <Jsn0327> I can go to the path that the syslog is pointing to and open it up as a regular user just fine
[20:42] <hydruid> Jsn0327: what command are you using to start pptpd
[20:42] <guntbert> !ot | guest009
[20:42] <_HoochMan_> Iceheart: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:42] <Iceheart> Thank you, I'll try that.
[20:42] <Iceheart> that*
[20:42] <chuck1> Iceheart: I have often had problems with updating ubuntu version by  updater too, I have everythink do it directly with the cd
[20:42] <Jsn0327> "/etc/init.d/pptpd start" without the quotes
[20:42] <guest009> you are smart
[20:43] <hydruid> Jsn0327: try sudo /etc/init.d/pptpd start
[20:43] <guest009> the online upgrade is risky
[20:43] <hydruid> Jsn0327: well do stop then start
[20:43] <Jsn0327> yeah i use sudo
[20:43] <ManateeLazyCat> Hi all.
[20:43] <Jsn0327> i have done stop, start, restart
[20:43] <Jsn0327> all with sudo
[20:43] <Jsn0327> it doesn't produce any errors in terminal
[20:43] <Jsn0327> but it does log that error to the syslog
[20:44] <bean> Jsn0327: sorry, I'm just reading now, can you tell me about your problem again?
[20:44] <hydruid> Jsn0327: is there a log in /var/log ?
[20:44] <guntbert> !who | guest009
[20:44] <Jsn0327> hydruid:  not that i can find for pptp
[20:44] <ssta> Jsn0327: what's the error?
[20:44] <Iceheart> The command worked, thank you lol
[20:44] <Jsn0327> bean: I am trying to start pptp VPN and am getting an error in the syslog
[20:45] <bean> Jsn0327: and what is the error.
[20:45] <Jsn0327> pptpd[20217]: MGR: PPP options file /etc/ppp/options.pptpd#015 not readable
[20:45] <hydruid> Jsn0327: please pastebin the error
[20:45] <bean> hydruid: it's 1 line
[20:45] <jstoone> Jsn0327: Have you tried "sudo service pptpd stop" and "start" afterwards? doing it manually through /etc/init.d/file is a bit depricated in my oppinion?
[20:45] <hydruid> bean: k ty
[20:45] <bean> Jsn0327: okay, what does ls -la /etc/ppp/options.pptpd looks like
[20:45] <Jsn0327> one se
[20:46] <Jsn0327> one sec
[20:46] <robde> is there a nice cli-gui for editing users and groups?
[20:47] <iglow> hi, I know this is a rather vague question but i was trying to run the cd for ubuntu to see if i wanted to install it at all and everytime i try to run it i get the ubuntu laoding screen then after about 30 secs it crashes. can anyone give me a clue as to why?
[20:47] <ssta> Jsn0327: you have \r line endings.  Did you copy/paste from notepad?
[20:47] <ssta> don't use notepad for anything, not EVER.  Notepad is *evil*, and *bad*, and just screws up *all* the time!
[20:47] <Jsn0327> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 187 2012-01-06 14:15 options.pptpd
[20:48] <ssta> #015 is ascii carriage return
[20:48] <Jsn0327> i gave it 777 permissions to eliminate permissions from the equation
[20:48] <Jsn0327> i won't leave it like that
[20:48] <Jsn0327> ssta: how do i fix it?
[20:49] <jstoone> Jsn0327: if you are familiar with the cli then pipe - "|" - it through "pastebinit", it's much easier than copy/paste all the time ;)
[20:49] <ssta> Jsn0327: make a backup of the file, then: sudo tr -d '\r' < options.ppptd > tmpfile; cp tmpfile options.ppptd
[20:49] <guntbert> robde: what is a CLI-GUI? either / or ?
[20:49] <ssta> Jsn0327: or run dos2unix on it
[20:50] <ssta> Jsn0327: or just NEVER use notepad, for ANYTHING!
[20:50]  * ssta has a slight dislike of notepad
[20:50] <Jsn0327> i didn't use notepad. I used nano
[20:50] <ssta> not sure how you got \rs then
[20:50] <Jsn0327> me neither
[20:50] <ssta> Jsn0327: you have pastebinit?
[20:51] <Jsn0327> u want me to pastebin it? or is that a utility?
[20:51] <jstoone> Jsn0327: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[20:51] <ssta> Jsn0327: it's a utility.
[20:51] <Jsn0327> that's awesome!
[20:51] <Jsn0327> thanks
[20:51] <Jsn0327> I'll try that command to remove the return
[20:52] <ssta> install it, then: hexdump -C /etc/ppp/options.ppptd | pastebinit
[20:52] <ssta> then we can see if there's a \r there still
[20:52] <bean> ssta: Jsn0327: the line endings are not causing the issues I wouldn't think
[20:52] <jstoone> Jsn0327: I would recommend to look at the man pages for pastebin, it has some truely awesome features.
[20:52] <ssta> bean: the error specifically says that the issue is a carriage return
[20:52] <Jsn0327> jstoone:  I stopped and started with the service command like u suggested, but i got the same result in the syslog
[20:53] <Jsn0327> ssta: ok
[20:53] <ssta> hmm
[20:53] <hydruid> Jsn0327: did you already pastebin your pptpd.conf
[20:53] <ssta> maybe I'm misreading it
[20:53] <Jsn0327> i will
[20:53] <bean> ssta: it just has a #015 on the end of the file name, probably just a terminal error.
[20:53] <bean> or something in copy paste.
[20:54] <zivester> can anyone tell me why my nfs mounts aren't mounting on startup? fstab is `192.168.1.100:/backup		 /media/p/backup	 nfs		 defaults	0 0`
[20:54] <hydruid> zivester: did you already create /media/p/backup
[20:55] <zivester> yah, `sudo mount -a` works after i login (or if i login via ssh and run it)
[20:55] <hydruid> weird
[20:55] <hydruid> i know i had something similiar happen before and I had to specify by user's UID
[20:55] <ManateeLazyCat> All Ubuntu user, if you have time, you can try my Linux Deepin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC1wGRc1uVM
[20:55] <Jsn0327> wow i had no idea about pastebinit
[20:56] <ManateeLazyCat> Linux Deepin 11.12, much hacking on gnome-shell and software center. :)
[20:56] <Jsn0327> http://paste.ubuntu.com/795308
[20:56] <oCean> ManateeLazyCat: don't advertise that here
[20:56] <Jsn0327> that is my new one that i created with just the commands and no comments
[20:56] <ManateeLazyCat> oCean: Not advertisise, just try it. :)
[20:57] <oCean> ManateeLazyCat: not acceptable, don't repeat it
[20:57] <bean> ManateeLazyCat: seriously, don't.
[20:57] <ManateeLazyCat> oCean: OK
[20:57] <ManateeLazyCat> I just said, if any people like it, can try.
[20:57] <jstoone> zivester: So your server has ssh, right?
[20:57] <bean> ManateeLazyCat: dude.
[20:57] <hydruid> zivester: sec i will look it up
[20:58] <ssta> okay, the line endings are fine anyways
[20:58] <ssta> bean was right there
[20:58] <zivester> yah
[20:58] <hydruid> zivester: here is an example, modify it to your needs: /dev/hda2 /media/data1 vfat defaults,user,exec,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000 0 0
[20:59] <hateb> installing ubuntu normal way from cd or usb stick when you already have windows and installing it via "run it with windows" differs when it comes to later ubuntu usage ?
[20:59] <hydruid> zivester: the important part is the uid=1000, change it to your user's uid
[20:59] <hydruid> zivester: then mix that uid option in your existing fstab command
[20:59] <Jsn0327> any other options??
[20:59] <hydruid> zivester: and if i had to guess, are you running 11.04?
[20:59] <ssta> Jsn0327: is noauth legal in pptpd options?
[21:00] <guntbert> hydruid: he had as issue with nfs if I remember correctly
[21:00] <zivester> 11.10... and my options worked fine before i reinstalled.. defaults should work, all perms are correct.. i think
[21:00] <hydruid> guntbert: correct, but like i said the command i showed was a sample
[21:00] <Jsn0327> yeah it still uses chap
[21:00] <hydruid> zivester: i'm telling you dude, just try it and see what happens. it doesn't make sense but i had to do it before and it worked beautifully
[21:00] <wamty> was running Oneiric on a new notebook for a week.  Notebook's built-in display plus 25" widescreen.  No troubles.  Installed Oneiric today; now when I drag a window between the two displays, the window will appear in the second display (whichever way I drag it) with the mouse cursor and the window in entirely different locations, like the mouse and the display(s) disagree about what their
[21:00] <wamty> dimensions are
[21:00] <wamty> any thoughts?
[21:01] <hydruid> zivester: had somethign weird to do with my permission settings on /media/usb1
[21:01] <guntbert> hydruid: but your example has nothing to do with his problem, has it?
[21:02] <wamty> ideas?
[21:02] <hydruid> guntbert: what do you mean? a nfs share doesn't automount at boot, however it mounts after he runs it as his user with mount -a. I had a similiar issue, and my fix was to specify the user's uid in the fstab config for that specific mount point
[21:03] <hydruid> guntbert: the example command i found that had the UID in it, was not for NFS but like I said it was an example
[21:03] <jstoone> zivester: Have you tried to use sshfs? If you haven't and your server runs ssh then look at post #8 on this thread - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1709184
[21:03] <Jsn0327> Is there anything else that i can check for my problem?
[21:04] <guntbert> hydruid: specifying the UID will only determine who has access to the mount, not if the mount will succeed
[21:04] <hydruid> zivester: did you try specifying the UID?
[21:04] <zivester> weird.. it just worked on boot, rebooted again, now it doesn't work... seems like a race or something
[21:05] <oCean> zivester: do you use _netdev as an option in fstab?
[21:05] <hydruid> zivester: is your network slow to come up?
[21:05] <Jsn0327> Anyone know of another good vpn server aside from pptp?
[21:06] <guntbert> hateb: yes, there is a great difference, the "wubi" install creates the complete system within one windows file
[21:06] <hydruid> guntbert: either way, this room is about helping people and thats what I was trying to do.
[21:06] <wamty> was running Oneiric on a new notebook for a week.  Notebook's built-in display plus 25" widescreen.  No troubles.  Installed Oneiric today; now when I drag a window between the two displays, the window will appear in the second display (whichever way I drag it) with the mouse cursor and the window in entirely different locations, like the mouse and the display(s) disagree about what their
[21:06] <wamty> dimensions are
[21:06] <zivester> if anything my computer is faster... upgraded to an SSD
[21:06] <zivester> i do not use _netdev
[21:06] <hydruid> wamty: are the displays the same size and running the same resolution?
[21:07] <oCean> zivester: I suggest adding _netdev to the mountoptions. It instructs the mount command to check whether network is available
[21:07] <zivester> network comes up right about the time the login window comes up.... of and if it matters, its xubuntu
[21:07] <guntbert> hydruid: sure thing, every help is appreciated :)
[21:07] <zivester> i read that _netdev isn't supported on the new nfs ?
[21:07] <zivester> setting uid did nothing
[21:08] <hydruid> yea if it's intermittent it's definitely a race condition
[21:08] <jstoone> Jsn0327: Yes, or well, I've heard about openvpn. Here is an official Ubuntu guide - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[21:08] <wamty> hydruid: no and no
[21:08] <wamty> hydruid: same aspect ratio though (for what that's worth)
[21:08] <ssta> hydruid: is there anything in dmesg saying that the mount failed and why?
[21:09] <syddraf> How do I control which hardware device audio is output to in XFCE? In gnome its under Sound Settings, but i cant find anything similar in xfce.
[21:09] <wamty> I should clarify (meant to include this above but missed it somehow): "was running Oneiric on a new notebook via live CD for a week"
[21:09] <hydruid> ssta: i dunno it's not my drive ;)
[21:09] <mongy> syddraf, try installing pavucontrol
[21:10] <Jsn0327> jstoone: thanks!
[21:10] <wamty> anyone has an idea?
[21:11] <hydruid> wamty: the the displays the same size and same resolution?
[21:11] <wamty> hydruid: no and no
[21:11] <robde> hello, i'm looking for a command-line tool which helps me organizing the users and groups
[21:11] <kannan> hello, when i try to run a script with ./script.sh , it says /sbin/service not found , but i can run it with the absoulte path
[21:11] <hydruid> wamty: you sure it's not just moving from a triangle to square shaped monitor that makes it "bend" weird
[21:11] <Pici> robde: organize in what way?
[21:11] <syddraf> mongy: Thanks. That shows it, but my bluetooth devide doesn't show up in that window. Yay.
[21:12] <jstoone> Jsn0327: You are so welcome! Please just ask away if you have any questions. And let me know if it does any difference using OpenVPN
[21:12] <wamty> Pici: any idea on my problem man?
[21:12] <robde> Pici: creating and deleting
[21:12] <wamty> ive been on it for 2 days now
[21:12] <Pici> wamty: I just got here, I don't know what you're even asking about.
[21:12] <LiteApple> How do i Install a .exe specifically to my new .wine directory?
[21:12] <LiteApple> How do i Install a .exe specifically to my new .wine directory?
[21:12] <wamty> let me rephrase
[21:13] <wamty> I was running Oneiric on a new notebook for a week.  Notebook's built-in display plus 25" widescreen.  No troubles.  Installed Oneiric today; now when I drag a window between the two displays, the window will appear in the second display (whichever way I drag it) with the mouse cursor and the window in entirely different locations, like the mouse and the display(s) disagree about what their
[21:13] <wamty> dimensions are
[21:13] <guntbert> robde: just use adduser and deluser
[21:13] <Androguy> LiteApple: it doesnt matter where the exe is to wine, as long as you tell it the path.  So just copy it where you want it.
[21:13] <debsan> LiteApple, install wine , run wincfg, run .exe
[21:13] <jstoone> Jsn0327: It would probably be best to purge pptp from the system, just for good maners ;) (and to exclude eventual bugs and config errors)
[21:14] <LiteApple> how do I make it go to the new .wine directories virtual C drive
[21:14] <Pici> wamty: Are both screens running with the same resolution?
[21:14] <LiteApple> I want to make it install to that specific directory
[21:14] <jstoone> LiteApple: Can't you just supply that when you install?
[21:14] <LiteApple> well it lists drive C as default
[21:15] <LiteApple> but since a new wine directory is like a new windows
[21:15] <LiteApple> How do I make it install to that new drive?
[21:15] <wamty> Pici: no and no
[21:15] <wamty> Pici: same aspect ratio though (for what that's worth)
[21:15] <Pici> wamty: That sounds like it is to be expected then.
[21:15] <wamty> what do you mean?
[21:16] <wamty> Pici: it worked via the live CD
[21:16] <Pici> wamty: I wouldn't expect a window to show up in the same place if the resolutions differed.
[21:16] <jstoone> wamty: hm, are you forcing the screens to use the others aspect ratio instead of the native ones?
[21:16] <wamty> thank you for your input
[21:18] <wamty> so what to do?
[21:18] <LiteApple> hello
[21:18] <hateb> installing ubuntu wiht cd/ usb stick or "run with windows" differs somehow when it comes to later ubuntu usage ?
[21:19] <wamty> but worked via the live CD
[21:19] <wamty> why would it ?
[21:19] <michaelgamble> hey
[21:20] <ssta> hateb: wubi (run with windows) installs to a virtual disk file.  It's a little bit slower to run than a native install but should otherwise be identical
[21:20] <guntbert> hateb: I answered already, why do you ask the same question again?
[21:20] <michaelgamble> I'm a newb to ubuntu.. just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu (latest version) and i have a server software i want to install but its apparently a .bin file > what do i do with a .bin file?
[21:21] <hateb> I didn't saw sry gunbert
[21:21] <hateb> and thank you, thats what I was afraid of that its gone be slower
[21:22] <jstoone> michaelgamble: Welcome to the real world ;) with a quick google search for "ubuntu install .bin file" and the first link I got - http://www.ehow.com/how_4578189_install-bin-file-ubuntu-linux.html
[21:22] <michaelgamble> yeah i think i just hit that url
[21:22] <michaelgamble> thanks :)
[21:25] <jstoone> michaelgamble: Hope it helps (: please ask away if you have any questions at all! And not to be rude, but some people find it very irritating when people say "hi" since this a helping chat, and if everyone who joined started with a "hey", and then in a second message asked their question, the chat would be very, very clutterd ;)
[21:25] <ssta> michaelgamble: note that post puts all commands in uppercase for some reason.  Linux is case sensitive, so "CD DESKTOP" probably won't work
[21:26] <ssta> and the sudo in front of chmod probably isn't needed
[21:26] <guntbert> hateb: it will not only be (a little) slower but any problem with the windows file system might destroy your ubuntu
[21:26] <jstoone> michaelgamble: I'm just telling you, hope you don't take it badly ;)
[21:26] <jstoone> ssta: michaelgamble: it isn't ;)
[21:26] <ssta> in fact, I'd be wary of following that post...it appears to get some stuff wrong
[21:26] <michaelgamble> yeah i got it to run off that links instructions
[21:26] <michaelgamble> thanks guys :)
[21:27] <jstoone> you're welcome (:
[21:28] <michaelgamble> you guys ever hear of alfresco?
[21:28] <guest009> no
[21:28] <michaelgamble> its apparently an open source asset management server software
[21:28] <guest009> what can it do?
[21:28] <michaelgamble> not quiet sure what it is though.. what I'm hoping it will do is be a versioning system for media file types
[21:29] <chuck1> it's a porn actor, is it not?
[21:29] <michaelgamble> i.e. replace my deprecated version cue server
[21:29] <chuck1> he's
[21:29] <oCean> chuck1: don't post that nonsense here
[21:34] <Sharpshooter> hai guys I just installed netbeans in ubuntu and when I tried to run a c ++ hello world program it shows error , I dont know how to do it in netbeans I use geany , in that i got the output with no problems GUYS please help me !!
[21:36] <jstoone> Sharpshooter: What error does it display?
[21:39] <heinz> Sharpshooter: neither netbeans nor geany are primarily c++ development environments
[21:40] <jstoone> Sharpshooter: aha, I've never heard about the *blank* error before.
[21:40] <heinz> one is java with tacked on c++, the other is a text editor with tacked on ide functionality
[21:41] <jstoone> heinz: typical, he's gone.
[21:41] <heinz> urm. sorry for the noise then ;-}
[21:42] <jstoone> heinz: Ah, you misunderstood me, I just meant that it's typical that he comes here and asks a question, which is kind of off-topic, and then when we answar he quits.
[21:43] <Sephi-Chan> Hi
[21:43] <Sharpshooter> hai guys I just installed netbeans in ubuntu and when I tried to run a c ++ hello world program it shows error , I dont know how to do it in netbeans I use geany , in that i got the output with no problems GUYS please help me !!
[21:43] <heinz> jstoone: that's only part of the audience. the other part quits before it gets the first answer ;-)
[21:43] <heinz> Sharpshooter: neither netbeans nor geany are primarily c++ development environments
[21:43] <heinz> jstoone: looks like we get a second shot ;-)
[21:43] <jstoone> !ask | Sephi-Chan
[21:44] <jstoone> heinz: sure does!
[21:44] <ssta> Sharpshooter: any particular error?  Or just "error"?
[21:45] <Sephi-Chan> How can I know what is heavy in an installation ? I have a virtual machine of ubuntu server (without any GUI) and it's over 2GB.
[21:45] <robde> does somebody know a command-line user manager?
[21:45] <Sharpshooter> heinz, I am new to programming and i used to program in geany ! I created hello world in geany but I cant able run same program in netbeans
[21:45] <zivester> well i dont know what option did it... but changing my fstab to `timeo=14,intr,tcp` mounts my drives after a minute
[21:45] <ssta> robde: adduser/deluser?
[21:45] <vasuki> is there any argument for using 10.04 in prod over 11.04 for a python2.7,ngnix,mysql stack?
[21:45] <instanceoftom> I have a script which is currently being run by upstart,
[21:45] <instanceoftom>                        whats the best way to have upstart run and manage
[21:45] <instanceoftom>                        multiple instances of my script?
[21:46] <robde> ssta: i'd prefer an interface for that
[21:46] <jstoone> Sharpshooter: Use eclipse instead, it can handle most programming languages. Just a suggestion if you want a good IDE.
[21:46] <ssta> robde: umm, command line, that is the interface
[21:47] <jstoone> robde: why don't you use the builtin one that ubuntu supplies you with?
[21:47] <robde> jstoone: because I only have CLI access
[21:47] <Sharpshooter> ssta, I Run this file in geany #include <iostream>using namespace std;
[21:47] <Sharpshooter> int main(){	cout<<"Hello World !!";	return 0;}
[21:48] <benbloom> is there a way to get the adobe reader plugin working with 64b firefox in oeneric?
[21:48] <jstoone> robde: tWouldn't you then be interrested in learning how to add/remove users and/or add/remove users to/from groups
[21:48] <Sharpshooter> jstoone,  I want to run the program in netbeans IDE ?
[21:48] <jstoone> that sure was a post with loads slashes.
[21:49] <heinz> jstoone: eclipse is also java with tacked-on c++. and in fact I'd even think netbeans would be the better choice in this casse. but for c++ I'd go for kdevelop, or qt creator.
[21:49] <heinz> or the other way round....
[21:49] <ssta> emacs :)
[21:49] <robde> jstoone: yea, maybe I should have a look at it. I was raised with GUIs, that's the problem :D
[21:50] <MarkusT> Running Oneiric, I experience sound stuttering/clipping after using the computer/laptop for a short time. I'm able to work around via logout and login. Before I dive into hours of diagnostics: Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this? Any idea which software could cause this trouble and get's "solved" by logging out?
[21:50] <jstoone> Sharpshooter: Well Eclipse is and IDE just like Netbeans is. But as heinz says, it's maybe not appropriate.
[21:50] <heinz> ssta: vim!
[21:50] <ssta> vim works too, if you like that sort of thing :)
[21:50] <jstoone> heinz: ssta: vim
[21:50] <jstoone> ssta: haha.
[21:51] <heinz> jstoone: or vim.
[21:51] <benbloom> MarkusT, have you tried disabling compiz/desktop effects??
[21:51] <Sharpshooter> jstoone, Now I cant Install Eclipse in my box ! Iwant to run the c++ program in netbeans only
[21:51] <ssta> Sharpshooter: is there a specific error?
[21:51] <ssta> maybe we get to play "guess the error"? :)
[21:51] <heinz> Sharpshooter: there's a #netbeans channel
[21:52] <jstoone> Sharpshooter: Yes, when you /only/ want to do this in Netbeans, then this is getting a bit too non-ubuntuish. or off-topic as some say.
[21:53] <MarkusT> benbloom: No, since cpu and memory usage seems to be normal. Will try that, thanks for the suggestion.
[21:53] <atamisk> d
[21:53] <jstoone> MarkusT: Is it a new computer wil Dolby sounds?
[21:53] <atamisk> argh, disregard
[21:53] <atamisk> .window 3
[21:54] <MarkusT> jstoone: It's a Thinkpad R60. Depends on what you consider "new" :-)
[21:54] <benbloom> MarkusT, <shift><alt>F12 is a quick way to do it
[21:54] <jstoone> atamisk: I agree.?
[21:54] <benbloom> is there a way to get the adobe reader plugin working with 64b firefox in oeneric?
[21:55] <Sharpshooter> ssta, Iam a newbie to IDE's ! first I  create a project and right clicked the project and created a c++ source file and and pressed f9 to compile and then ther is no active option for run !
[21:55] <jstoone> MarkusT: Mh, well on this labtop I had some problems that sounds a bit like yours but that was a problem because I have "dolby" sounds in it, and Ubuntu didn't handle that in any good way.
[21:56] <MarkusT> benbloom: Doesn't work here?
[21:56] <benbloom> y'know i just realized that might be a kde shortcut
[21:56] <Jsn0327> Does anyone know how to output the syntax from a process that is running in the background to a terminal window?  I set my proxy server to run on startup and would like to view what is going on with it when commands are sent to it, like I could see if i were to manually start it through a terminal window?
[21:56] <jstoone> Sharpshooter: did you write anything in it? It seems kind of weird to compile an empty source ;)
[21:57] <benbloom> you can alwas 'disable desktop effects' from your system settings MarkusT
[21:57] <Sharpshooter> jstoone,  #include <iostream>
[21:57] <Sharpshooter> using namespace std;
[21:57] <Sharpshooter> int main()
[21:57] <Sharpshooter> {
[21:57] <Sharpshooter> 	cout<<"Hello World !!";
[21:57] <Sharpshooter> 	return 0;
[21:57] <FloodBot1> Sharpshooter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:58] <benbloom> I also remember when i used to use gnome there was an applet you could install that would quickly disable/enable compiz
[21:58] <maciej_> i cant find option to disable desktop effects, ubuntu 11.10
[21:58] <jstoone> maciej_: You could run unity 2d in stead?
[21:59] <maciej_> jstoone: yes, i select unity 2d before login
[21:59] <jstoone> maciej_: which effects do you want to disappear?
[21:59] <benbloom> so does anyone know what will happen if i install the adobe reader plugin for firefox 32b in my 64b system?
[22:00] <maciej_> all, i have 512 ram only and it lag a bit sometimes
[22:00] <jstoone> maciej_: aha.
[22:00] <jstoone> maciej_: I'll think about it, give me a sec.
[22:00] <maciej_> jstoone: ok, send me private message if you can
[22:01] <jstoone> maciej_: sure
[22:03] <nobitanobi> HI. When trying to mount an Ipod with "sudo mount /dev/sdc2 /media/IPOD" I get mount: special device /dev/sdc2 does not exist
[22:03] <nobitanobi> could somebody help me to identify where it should be in /dev?
[22:04] <jstoone> maciej_: Actually I'm starting a series of tutorials on YouTube and one of then is about compizconfig where you can enable/disable/edit stuff, take a look at this. I start to talk about compiz at 03:20 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSWSqMRypj4 - hope it helps
[22:04] <jstoone> nobitanobi: Doesn't it automount when you plug it in?
[22:05] <nobitanobi> no...
[22:05] <jstoone> nobitanobi: that... is wierd.
[22:05] <maciej_> jstoone: Okay, i cant watch now because i use mobile internet with limits but i watch it at home, thanks anyway.
[22:05] <nobitanobi> I know :/
[22:05] <sileni> hello everyone
[22:05] <jstoone> maciej_: No problem.
[22:05] <nobitanobi> I've tried using Banshee and nothing either
[22:05] <MaxHR> Hello, any recommendations for best speech recognition to control desktop, browse, and especially for dictation for emails and word processing?
[22:05] <sileni> when i try to ssh into a server it hangs at this part http://pastebin.com/8VGm3Rmi
[22:06] <jstoone> nobitanobi: Have you tried to see if you can mount it though the file manager?
[22:06] <sileni> but when i bring up virtualbox and a windows guest i can putty into the server fine
[22:06] <sileni> has anyone encountered this situation before? I have set the MTU size to be the same on both client and server
[22:06] <nobitanobi> nop, haven't tried that jstoone. I will see how can I do that (google it) and come back
[22:06] <sileni> I'm able to ssh into other servers fine from ubuntu
[22:07] <nobitanobi> just did an ls and yes, it's mounted in /media/IPOD -
[22:07] <gh0strider> hey what do you guys think of googleearth for ubuntu?
[22:07] <jstoone> nobitanobi: it is reealy simple, open nautilus "WINDOWS-KEY+2" (by default) and then look at the top.
[22:07] <nobitanobi> however, banshee doesn't recognize it - I suppose I can set the path of the mount point
[22:08] <Guest2492> hello
[22:08] <sileni> Guest2492: hey
[22:08] <gh0strider> does anyone here use googleearth for ubuntu?
[22:09] <sileni> MaxHR: I hear good things about dragon natural speak
[22:11] <MaxHR> sileni: yeah, I used that on Windows before, was hoping there was something that was linux based... and would integrate well
[22:11] <sileni> MaxHR: http://vedics.sourceforge.net/
[22:12] <shwaiil> hi
[22:12] <shwaiil> Q: on command line how can I get a list of current files or dir structure with permissions info etc ? Thanks! Like: ls -SOME_COMAND_DUNNO:P
[22:13] <sileni> MaxHR: If you want to continue using dragon, you can use this http://thenerdshow.com/platypus.html
[22:15] <ghost_> ёпт
[22:17] <nobitanobi> Can anyone guide me where is my Ipod mounted. When I run mount in terminal I get: http://friendpaste.com/ItjLwzIGsHVZSQs75hfNE
[22:18] <ubluntu> nobitanobi: doesm't look like it is
[22:18] <budmang_> is it possible to create a winXP usb boot disk with ubuntu? Ive tried tons... ive read it just wont work(windows 7 usb boot key works flawless... just winXP).
[22:18] <nobitanobi> ubluntu: how can that be? What can I do? I've changed to another usb port too...
[22:18] <ikonia> budmang_: boot disk ? as in hard disk ?
[22:19] <ubluntu> nobitanobi: see it with fdisk -l ?
[22:19] <tidux> I have a question about Firefox 9
[22:19] <tidux> er
[22:19] <nobitanobi> that doesn't show anything here
[22:19] <nobitanobi> :O
[22:19] <tidux> whatever the latest one in the mainline repos is
[22:19] <ikonia> !info firefox
[22:19] <ikonia> tidux: 8.0
[22:19] <jstoone> budmang_: I have tried SO many times, but but it simply isn't possible to make a bootable USB drive with Win7
[22:19] <tidux> the global appmenu integration works normally except that it doesn't hide the menu bar in the Firefox window
[22:19] <fermulator> Does anyone remember the application one can use to capture mouse/keyboard input events through Xorg?  I'm trying to figure out which buttons on my mouse map to "Button 1", "Button 2", etc.
[22:19] <tidux> so I'm left with two menu bars
[22:20] <nobitanobi> Can't it be the chord is corrupted even though is chargin?
[22:20] <nobitanobi> *charging
[22:20] <ikonia> fermulator: /dev/input
[22:20] <k3Rn> can anyone help me with this apt problem : http://pastebin.com/tr9vqgZ8 ?
[22:20] <ubluntu> nobitanobi: check dmesg whats it say about usb
[22:20] <nobitanobi> ok let's see
[22:20] <tidux> oh, wait
[22:20] <tidux> the menu items in the global menubar don't actually do anything
[22:21] <fermulator> ikonia: /dev/input/mouseX only shows button1/button2
[22:21] <fermulator> (all buttons do actually work)
[22:21] <nobitanobi> running dmesg  | grep usb gave me: http://friendpaste.com/qyn2Ny8MyGc1BtD34FVrg
[22:21] <nobitanobi> that doesn't look good :O
[22:21] <ipsoft> ubuntu
[22:21] <ipsoft> gnome
[22:22] <ikonia> ipsoft: do you have a question as saying random words doesn't give us a good idea what you need
[22:22] <ubluntu> nobitanobi: yea maybe bad cord? hopefully your ipid is ok. does it show up in fdisk though ?
[22:22] <nobitanobi> it doesn't
[22:22] <nobitanobi> it's charging though
[22:22] <nobitanobi> I hope is the chord :S
[22:22] <nobitanobi> even though I can sync in OS X
[22:23] <ubluntu> nobitanobi: try a reboot maybe?? if you cn sync in osx the cord is fine not sure try googling those exact errors in dmesg
[22:23] <nobitanobi> I will try googling sure
[22:23] <nobitanobi> ubluntu: thanks a lot for your help
[22:24] <ubluntu> np.
[22:24] <nobitanobi> maybe is the USB itself
[22:24] <ubluntu> on the machine?
[22:24] <nobitanobi> yup
[22:24] <nobitanobi> I've had problems with mice too
[22:24] <nobitanobi> in those ports
[22:24] <ubluntu> is this the osx machine also ?
[22:24] <nobitanobi> no sorry
[22:24] <nobitanobi> I should had clarify that
[22:24] <budmang_> Like a bootable USB drive(to install windows xp).
[22:24] <budmang_> unetbootin etc..
[22:24] <ubluntu> then maybe yes bad usb since dmesg is complaining about no 'endpoint'
[22:25] <nobitanobi> yes, but what can I do with that
[22:25] <nobitanobi> not much I suppose right?
[22:25] <ubluntu> heh google any computer problem ur not the first
[22:25] <nobitanobi> imagine that, I would patent the problem
[22:25] <nobitanobi> :P
[22:25] <nobitanobi> I will try and come back if so
[22:25] <ubluntu> I havce never seen that error so I cant help really but atleast dmesg let you know something is definently wrong
[22:25] <nobitanobi> yes, that was helpful
[22:25] <nobitanobi> thank you very much
[22:26] <nobitanobi> hope I can help you back someday
[22:26] <ubluntu> haha not necessary but thanks for the thought pay it forward help someone else some time.
[22:26] <nobitanobi> I will :)
[22:26] <nobitanobi> good night
[22:26] <ubluntu> adios ;-D
[22:28] <guest009> night?
[22:29] <edbian> knight
[22:29] <guest009> who is still in 2011?
[22:29] <jstoone> guest009: It's called timezones ;)
[22:29] <aber> oO
[22:29] <jstoone> guest009: That isn't possible.
[22:29] <guest009> hehe, use your iq
[22:29] <edbian> guest009, nobody?  It's the 6th
[22:29] <ubluntu> unlesss you are marty mcfly
[22:29] <guest009> chinese are still in 2011, dummy
[22:29] <edbian> ubluntu, or the dog, or the doc
[22:30] <guest009> i am smarter than you all
[22:30]  * guest009 runs away
[22:31] <ubluntu> guest009: or are you the one with the most to prove.
[22:32] <aber> They don't have the year 2011...
[22:33]  * edbian would like to get back on topic
[22:33] <jstoone> ubluntu: guest009: It's because their culture is different and they don't celebrate new years like we do. But when it comes to dates they have turned into january, which is a new year.
[22:33] <jstoone> edbian: me too
[22:33] <fwpc> could somebody help with gufw configuration? i want to block all outgoing traffic except the one i whitelist. set Outgoing: Deny and added ALLOW OUT rule for HTTP but firefox won't open sites.
[22:34] <jstoone> fwpc: May I ask why you want to do this?
[22:34] <no-name-> how do I get classic gnome in ubuntu 11.10 ??
[22:35] <ssta> no-name-: install gnome-panel
[22:35] <no-name-> E: Package 'gnome-panel' has no installation candidate
[22:35] <no-name-> this is probably because I'm using the live C :/
[22:35] <fwpc> jstoone: mainly because i like to keep open only those ports i use. i know that it might make little difference in case of malware presence.
[22:35] <no-name-> CD *
[22:36] <no-name-> is there any way around that?
[22:36] <jstoone> no-name-: simple google search for "install gnome 2 ubuntu 11.10" second link. - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[22:37] <fwpc> with firestarter everything works fine, but i tried gufw on 2 linux boxes with the same result.
[22:38] <Jordan_U> no-name-: Either use Ubuntu Software Center or run "sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get install gnome-panel"
[22:38] <Jordan_U> no-name-: The universe repository isn't enabled by default on the LiveCD.
[22:39] <sbsin> 10.04: I can view all files outside of /home/user_one but when I open /home/user_one nautilus crashes, any ideas? I've uninstalled dropbox & ubuntu-one.
[22:39] <tidux> ok, this is weird
[22:40] <tidux> now it's a *sporadic* problem with Firefox and the global menu
[22:40] <tidux> it's working normally now
[22:40] <tidux> but I have no way of predicting when it will work normally or not
[22:41] <no-name-> Jordan_U: doesn't work
[22:43] <fwpc> jstoone: you happen to know how to configure gufw to only allow whitelisted outgoing traffic?
[22:43] <furks> hi
[22:46] <furks> I want to travel and safe my hard disk, shall I encrypt with gparted?
[22:47] <StepNjump> guys, I am trying to send numerous commands on one line using ';' between commands but the commands are running too fast (it's rare I complain that my computer is TOO fast).. Is there a way to put a 'pause' in there almost like in a memory dialer on a phone?
[22:48] <_jason> StepNjump: sleep N
[22:48] <StepNjump> _jason: sleep N?
[22:48] <_jason> yes where N is a number StepNjump
[22:49] <StepNjump> duh!
[22:50] <StepNjump> ok so let's say du -s >> logfile ; sleep N ; ls -alh >> same_logfile???? _jason
[22:50] <StepNjump> _jason: are they 1/100th of a second, seconds?
[22:51] <_jason> StepNjump: second
[22:51] <LoOoD> Anyone looking for a sr sysadmin job? I need a vacation.
[22:52] <robde_> how can I automatically start a certain process for a certain user at bot?
[22:52] <robde_> boot
[22:53] <StepNjump> _yep works _jason thank you. I was thinking you were pulling my leg. Have a happy new year my friend.
[22:53] <_jason> robde_: use @reboot in the users crontab
[22:53] <_jason> StepNjump: no problem and you too :)
[22:53] <robde_> _jason: thx
[22:55] <StepNjump> _jason: thanks.. but my think is not working... It does pause but then my listing doesn't redirect completely du -s > ~/test ; sleep 0.00001 ; ls -ahlR >> ~/test
[22:56] <StepNjump> With no pause, all you see is the ls output and with any pause, you see almost just the du -s
[22:59] <DaDink> StepNjump: Try using && in between instead of colons. That way, the status return of ls has to finish before the next one starts.
[22:59] <StepNjump> Oh thank you vy mch DaDink .. I will try it right now.
[23:02] <DaDink> Oh, yeah. Using && also allows for both outputs to be on the same redirect, I believe. So a single >~/test at the end will suffice.
[23:05] <StepNjump> DaDink: I'm afraid it's not working: http://paste.ubuntu.com/795445/
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: what are you trying to achieve?
[23:09] <StepNjump> hi ActionParsnip. I'm trying to take a snapshot of certain folders for my own sake and also would like to get the size of the folders to be appended to the file while I'm  at it...
[23:10] <DaDink> StepNjump: du -s > ~/test && ls -ahlR >> ~/test works under cygwin....
[23:11] <DaDink> You do need both redirects.
[23:11] <oich> Hi. I'm having a problem updating Ubuntu 10.04. It complains about wrong default python, but update-alternatives points to the version it is asking for. I tried removing the alternative and creating the link manually, then it tries to use python2.7. Ideas? http://paste.ubuntu.com/795449/
[23:11] <StepNjump> mmm... _weird doesn't work here DaDink
[23:12] <StepNjump> Well I dropped the first one DaDink specifically and temporarily just so I don't have to erase the file before starting again my tests. It's like an initialization. Are you saying it works for you DaDink
[23:13] <DaDink> Well, let me re-boot to linux and I will tell you for sure.... bye now.
[23:15] <StepNjump> ActionParsnip: looks like dadink is gone.. but he is perfectly right. With the double > at the beginning, works great. Unbelievable.. My logic was good as with only one > it erases and creates the file again.. Maybe that process was taking too long. Thanks
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> oich: try:  sudo update-alternatives --config /usr/bin/python
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump: np :)
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> oich: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64870/how-to-point-usr-bin-python-to-python2-6
[23:17] <StepNjump> btw the roundup ticket software from this morning I was looking for ActionParsnip works great now
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> oich: looks good here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-valueerror-the-symlink-usrbinpython-does-not-point-to-the-python-default-version.html
[23:18] <dadinck> StepNjump: rebooted to Linux, now. Yes, it works. du -s > ~/test1 && ls -lahR >> ~/test1
[23:19] <StepNjump> dadinck: I was just tyring to figure out how to write you a nickserv message
[23:19] <StepNjump> Yes it works fine here too
[23:20] <StepNjump> The problem was just due to the single chevron at the beginning
[23:20] <StepNjump> maybe it took too long to delete the file and recreated it
[23:20] <StepNjump> Thank you very much for your help! Much appreciate
[23:20] <StepNjump> Much appreciated
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> oich: be very careful with python, if you screw it up you will get issues
[23:23] <dadinck> StepNjump: > does not delete the file first. It truncates the file and starts at "0". > test without a command will truncate the file to 0.
[23:24] <marcox23> gfh
[23:25] <StepNjump> dadinck: ok.. Well something is acting up.. Probably that it has to trucate the file.. who knows
[23:25] <subcool> i know this is the wrong channel, but im sure someone has a better idea than i at the moment.
[23:25] <subcool> lil help- i got bootmgr missing on boot. i dont have a Cdrom or a Win7 disc. This is a BRAND new Inspirion Mini Duo, with NO software that came with it. I have plenty of USBsticks
[23:26] <marcox23> hola
[23:26] <LiteApple> how do you change the winecfg settings of a new wine prefix?
[23:26] <Urchin> subcool: install an OS on it?
[23:26] <oich> ActionParsnip thanks. The paste started by showing that the alternative for python was installed already. Actually, removing it and reinstalling it has changed something and it's no longer complaining about the version. So maybe reinstalling was the solution. I'm not sure because there is a conflict between python-profiler and python2.5 now.
[23:27] <StepNjump> ok thanks again greatly dadinck
[23:27] <StepNjump> will be back in a few mins
[23:29] <subcool> Urchin, no CD drive -
[23:29] <mongy> LiteApple, I don't use wine personally but I know winetricks has this option
[23:30] <CodeZombie> what is a good way to view what a caemonized program is currently doing?
[23:30] <CodeZombie> for example, I have an image processor that's randomly getting hung up
[23:30] <CodeZombie> nothing in the logs, no errors... just hits 100% CPU and hangs
[23:30] <CodeZombie> I'd like to debug, but I can't
[23:31] <thrilway> My computer has been hanging when I try to shut down. I'm sometimes able to see a bit of a stack trace. is there any way of capturing it?
[23:32] <marcox23> hola soy de mexico
[23:32] <marcox23> de casualidad alguien aqui habla español??
[23:32] <JasonGriffee> !spanish
[23:33] <marcox23> gracias
[23:35] <thrilway> CodeZombie find the  process-id of the offending daemon
[23:36] <thrilway> CodeZombie then start up gdb, and enter the command attach PID
[23:36] <oich> And now it's back to complaining that python does not match the default version. update-alternatives --config python shows that version as the only alternative.
[23:36] <CodeZombie> thrilway: is that a ui based app?
[23:36] <thrilway> CodeZombie nope, terminal
[23:36] <CodeZombie> perfect, thanks I'll check it out
[23:37] <thrilway> CodeZombie there's a bit of a learning curve though
[23:37] <CodeZombie> thrilway: story of my life
[23:38] <heinz> thrilway: or use  gdb --pid=<your_pid>
[23:38] <thrilway> CodeZombie just curious, what's the app in question?
[23:39] <trippeh> Does Ubuntu have a snapshots apt archive with historical .deb versions like debian has? Which is valid for precise?
[23:39] <CodeZombie> it's a background processor I use for rails applications. The code being run is a rails app for processing photos
[23:40] <thrilway> CodeZombie are there logfiles for rails that you know of?
[23:40] <CodeZombie> thrilway: there are, but not for this.
[23:41] <CodeZombie> I get generic log stuff, unfortunately, nothing points to the issue at hand
[23:41] <JasonGriffee> Is anyone experienced with xRandR? I need help with modes.
[23:42] <thrilway> CodeZombie well, good luck!
[23:43] <CodeZombie> thrilway: thanks
[23:44] <mongy> JasonGriffee, try arandr, its a gui
[23:44] <JasonGriffee> mongy, does it do the same thing?
[23:45] <mongy> JasonGriffee, depends.  what do you wanna do
[23:46] <JasonGriffee> mongy, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[23:46] <mongy> JasonGriffee, http://askubuntu.com/a/64125/26198  might help..
[23:48] <oich> thanks. rebooting.
[23:49] <hotmoma2005> i have a dual boot windows and ubuntu and when i go to get in windows it just has a flashing line
[23:50] <JasonGriffee> mongy, i got a error adding mode
[23:50] <fvilla> Need some help for some reason i can no longer send email but i can recieve?
[23:50] <fvilla> i have a postfix setup
[23:50] <fvilla> is there any location there is logs pointing to my issue?
[23:50] <mongy> JasonGriffee, try arandr then.
[23:52] <hotmoma2005> how do i get iget in ti
[23:55] <JasonGriffee> mongy, i can't make it add a new mode
[23:56] <konradb> hi
[23:56] <mongy> JasonGriffee, are you using the right output?
[23:56] <JasonGriffee> mongy, VGA
[23:57] <konradb> how can i remove lastlogin in motd? I seted PrintLastLog no but it is printing anyway...
[23:57] <konradb> *set
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> konradb: did you restart the ssh service (I assume you mean via ssh).
[23:58] <konradb> ActionParsnip: um
[23:59] <konradb> i closed all terminals :DD
[23:59] <konradb> but not restarted