[01:15] <Darkwing> Hey guys, sorry I have not been around. had 3 deaths in the family since Christmas.
[02:19] <valorie> Darkwing: {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
[02:19] <Darkwing> :) Thanks valorie
[02:19] <valorie> stressful holidays here too
[02:19] <valorie> but not that bad
[09:28] <schnelle> upgraded to rc2 in oneiric without problems (exept I had to remove plasma-widget-icon-tasks without its dependencies and then finish/repair upgrade)
[09:29] <schnelle> now bugreporting... bugs bugs and bugs
[09:33] <Riddell> thanks schnelle 
[09:35] <Riddell> schnelle: I can't find plasma-widget-icon-tasks in the archive
[09:35] <Riddell> is it from an external source?
[09:38] <schnelle> Riddell: yes... I had it installed from external ppa in kde 4.7.4
[09:38] <schnelle> but
[09:38] <soee> morning
[09:39] <schnelle> in 4.8 icontasks widget is in addons
[09:39] <schnelle> so it BREAKS upgrade
[09:39] <schnelle> because it cannot overwrite existing icontasks
[09:41] <schnelle> long story short, if someone is upgading to 4.8 he have to remove plasma-widget-icon-task first and then upgrade to 4.8
[09:41] <schnelle> becase icontasks are officially part of 4.8
[09:41] <Riddell> if that's a common thing to install we could add a breaks for it
[09:45] <schnelle> Riddell: it broke my upgrade but I am now experience enaugh to repair it :)
[09:45] <soee> schnelle, cant remember if i had to remove icon task widget when upgrading to beta2 but i had to add it again wfter upgrade from plasma widgets
[09:45] <schnelle> tis command saved me: sudo dpkg -r --force-depends "package"
[09:46] <Riddell> schnelle: can you report a bug and let me know the number for my todo list, I'll add the breaks notice next week
[09:46] <schnelle> soee: I had to remove it and I think i read on kubuntuforums that people had problems with rc1 also
[09:47] <soee> schnelle, well i dont knnow how it was with RC1 because i moved to 4.8 since beta2
[09:47] <soee> schnelle, but i cant rememeber any big problems with icon task
[09:47] <soee> i think it was automaticly removed
[09:48] <schnelle> soee: maybe icon tasks become part of 4.8 after beta2
[09:48] <yofel> no, it was part of it since beta1
[09:48] <yofel> IIRC
[09:49] <schnelle> Riddel: will do that no problem
[09:50] <schnelle> can anyone test one bug: click on kmix icon and then scroll above slider. volume will increase/decrease but slider WONT move
[09:50] <schnelle> can anyone confirm this? i will file bugreport
[09:51] <yofel> schnelle: confirmed
[09:51] <yofel> there was a bug on LP about that
[09:51] <yofel> didn't get to upstream that
[09:51] <yofel> bug 910847
[09:51] <soee> schmidtm, true
[09:52] <soee> sorry, schnelle 
[09:53] <yofel> hm, bug 
[09:53] <schnelle> and i think that something is wrong with dolphins rendering engine... icons look very bad in every size (edges sharp and ugly like they are not antialiased)
[09:53] <yofel> bug 913038
[09:53] <soee> schnelle, also does the icon change for you when you mute sound ?
[09:54] <yofel> Riddell: ^ ?
[09:54] <schnelle> soee: in pop-up window no
[09:56] <Riddell> yofel: noted thanks
[10:07] <yofel> hm, according to ldd and changelog that's fixed since christmas though o.O
[10:20] <fabo> Riddell: xi2 patch ported to Qt4.8
[10:21] <fabo> Riddell: what about a11y? should it be ported?
[10:27] <fabo> fregl: ping
[10:27] <Riddell> fabo: oh well done
[10:27] <Riddell> fabo: isn't a11y all upstream?
[10:27] <fabo> fregl seems to have a 4.8 branch
[10:27] <fabo> last commit 4 days ago
[10:29] <fabo> http://qt.gitorious.org/+qt-developers/qt/accessibility/commits/4.8-a11y
[10:30] <Riddell> fabo: well I guess our kubuntu_97_a11y_qt_and_qml_backport.diff patch is obsolete and if that branch is good we could diff it against the release and use that as a patch
[10:30] <fabo> Riddell: that's my thought as well and doing git diff right now :)
[10:32] <fabo> Riddell: afaik unity has a new strict policy now and should have/pass tests
[10:32] <fabo> do you know if we should kind of check unity-2d?
[10:33] <Riddell> fabo: it's probably worth putting in a PPA to let people test it first
[10:33] <fabo> ok
[10:33] <Riddell> including unity-2d's accessibility users
[10:35] <Riddell> charlie-tca I think volunteered to test anything like that we would need
[10:55] <schnelle> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/913080
[11:00] <Riddell> thanks schnelle 
[11:01] <schnelle> no problem. glad to be part of community :)
[11:01] <Riddell> we'll make a packager of you yet :)
[11:11] <schnelle> Riddell: if "packaging" means compile and make deb with checkinstall I am up to the task :D
[11:11] <schnelle> but i beleive it's not that simple :9
[11:11] <schnelle> :)
[11:12] <yofel> we'll get you there ;)
[11:16] <Riddell> various obscure commands need to be used and the file format is a bit of reading up
[11:16] <Riddell> I'd say packaging takes an afternoon to learn and a lifetime to master
[11:17] <Riddell> well not a lifetime but one always learns :)
[11:18] <yofel> make that lifetime if you include all the new ideas the dpkg folks come up with all the time......
[12:15] <who_me> heya, if you can confirm kde bug 290871 please vote on it :)
[15:31] <mikecb> What's the issue with icontasks?  I upgraded with it fine.
[15:40] <Riddell> might depend where you got the package from
[15:42] <mikecb> true
[16:12] <ScottK> Fixed kubuntu-meta so I think images will build once it's published.
[16:17] <Riddell> thanks ScottK 
[18:15] <Riddell> "Mike Brown has been successfully subscribed to kubuntu-devel." yay!
[18:17] <mikecb> haha
[18:18] <mikecb> I'm reading up on qt5, it looks pretty exciting.
[18:37] <Quintasan> Riddell: Do you have flash installed?
[18:38] <Riddell> Quintasan: yes
[18:38] <Quintasan> Riddell: Can you run the Flash KCM magic in KDE?
[18:41] <yofel> Quintasan: works for me
[18:41] <Quintasan> yofel: I see. Do you have sound?
[18:41] <yofel> in flash? yes
[18:42] <Quintasan> :/
[18:42] <yofel> I'm currently on precise though
[18:42] <yofel> but I never had no sound in oneiric either
[18:42] <Quintasan> Was there any "fix my flash sound" subscription list? :P
[18:42] <yofel> IIRC yes, but I don't remember where it is ^^
[18:42] <Quintasan> :/
[18:49] <Quintasan> yofel: It seems like my pc caught the "LOL NO SOUND" issue
[18:50] <yofel> let's hope it gets better soon
[19:21] <Riddell> schnelle is in too!
[19:24] <schnelle> :)
[19:25] <schnelle> guys if you ever asked how to reproduce this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278869
[19:25] <schnelle> here you are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhPIQJm4Kl0&feature=youtu.be
[19:25] <schnelle> :)
[19:26] <schnelle> its another annoying task manager bug
[19:26] <schnelle> :(