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| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | build failures -> http://bit.ly/or6CHJ | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for hardy -> oneiric | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: | ||
| === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates | ||
| lifeless | bryce: oh, and freedesktop.org watches are borked too >< | 04:45 |
| Sarvatt | lifeless: fdo bugzilla has been up and down all night if its recent, they're moving servers | 04:51 |
| lifeless | Sarvatt: not recent | 04:51 |
| lifeless | Sarvatt: another gem hidden in the lp bugtracker | 04:51 |
| raju | hello i have a samsung mobile , am i able to install Ubuntu in that ? | 07:04 |
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| stgraber | pitti: just saw you uploaded a new calibre, cool! Now with the new wxwidgets2.8 I just uploaded, I should be able to install calibre and still be pycentral free ;) | 13:42 |
| ogra_ | isnt calibre a Qt app ? | 13:44 |
| ogra_ | at least it used to be | 13:44 |
| stgraber | ogra_: oh, indeed, so that was another Edubuntu package that was depending on wxwidgets2.8. Calibre was bringing pysupport or pycentral in Edubuntu because of python-cherrypy3 which I converted a few days ago | 13:46 |
| ogra_ | ah | 13:46 |
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| Eren | debian maintainer's guide states that the package is installed temporarily under "debian/package" directory | 15:12 |
| Eren | is it different in ubuntu? | 15:12 |
| Eren | I've looked at the source of gtk+ package, and accordingly to *.install files, it's stated as "debian/install/shared/usr/share/... usr/share" | 15:13 |
| tumbleweed | Eren: not different on ubuntu | 15:14 |
| Eren | tumbleweed: is it specific to gtk+ then? | 15:15 |
| tumbleweed | Eren: I don't know the gtk+ package, but I'm assuming it's using debian/install as a staging area, where most packages use debian/tmp as the staging area | 15:17 |
| tumbleweed | when you build multiple binaries from one source package, you usually build into debian/tmp, and then use dh_install to move them into the binary package directories | 15:17 |
| Eren | tumbleweed: thanks. When building packages, how is ubuntu different than ubuntu? I'm currently learning how to package *.deb and I would like to know how ubuntu is differentiated from debian in terms of package management | 15:20 |
| Eren | ops, how is debian different than ubuntu* :) | 15:21 |
| tumbleweed | Eren: there aren't any differences you need to worry about, yet | 15:24 |
| Eren | tumbleweed: when should I worry? | 15:25 |
| tumbleweed | when you run into them. But you almost certainly won't | 15:26 |
| Eren | okie, thanks. I'll keeping debian maintainer's guide, and debian policy as main documents then | 15:28 |
| tumbleweed | the biggest difference you are likely to run into is that ubuntu won't include the upstream changelog in the deb | 15:29 |
| tumbleweed | (and only part of the debian/ubuntu changelog) | 15:29 |
| Eren | tumbleweed: so, debian includes upstream chanlog in /usr/share/doc/<package> | 15:31 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 15:31 |
| jtaylor | doko: something is weird with python2.7 | 15:32 |
| jtaylor | python2.7-dev is now 10 times larger than before | 15:33 |
| tumbleweed | looks like the 3 static libraries balooned | 15:36 |
| jtaylor | can't tell I'm still downloading ._. | 15:36 |
| * tumbleweed was just looking at the build log | 15:37 | |
| jtaylor | a forgot debc output is in there | 15:38 |
| doko | that's the lto sections | 15:41 |
| jtaylor | so its going to stay like this? | 15:43 |
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| jtaylor | omg python3 is now 18.7mb | 19:17 |
| jtaylor | doko: is that static library /usr/lib/libpython3.2mu.a intentionally in python3 and not python3-dev? | 19:22 |
| jtaylor | 3.2 | 19:22 |
| doko | jtaylor, no, will fix | 19:25 |
| jtaylor | thx, my poor internet connection thanks you :) | 19:25 |
| trism | Is it intentional that the debug version of dbus-daemon is being installed instead of the production version in both the dbus packages in oneiric and precise? (you can see the binary be installed once from build/bus then overwritten by build-debug/bus in the logs). | 19:49 |
| trism | Moving --exec-prefix=/ from the common_configure_flags to the non-debug build flags in override_dh_auto_configure in debian/rules seems to fix it if it is a bug. Only noticed it because it was causing weird aborts in make check for the dbus-python code. (at a part that shouldn't be enabled in the production build) | 19:58 |
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| wyuka_ | hi | 21:38 |
| === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk | ||
| wyuka_ | is there a page explaining how live installation actually works? | 21:38 |
| wyuka_ | in detail? | 21:39 |
| infinity | wyuka_: What level of detail are you looking for? | 21:41 |
| infinity | wyuka_: "Copy the read-only FS from the livecd to the target filesystem; run d-i components in target to configure it" is the short answer. | 21:42 |
| infinity | wyuka_: Significantly more detail than that means documenting everything each d-i component can/does do, which I'm not sure is worth the effort. | 21:42 |
| infinity | wyuka_: There's also the "remove some packages we don't want" phase, and optionally "install more packages than the livecd had installed". | 21:43 |
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