[10:09] <gang65> hi
[10:10] <gang65> I would like to implement the highlight of the item names
[10:10] <gang65> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/607676
[10:12] <gang65> Do you know where is example of the function which I could use for glowing?
[12:27] <davidcalle> mhall119, mick0 : I've started a doc listing packaged scopes and lenses from One Hundred Scopes and I need your insight for good looking and consistent package descriptions (most of them a really bad) before submission to the Software Center. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jiK8aXFQtEP1ifK6ToxX7CdQojLVmRPpmV_w9DUqs6c/edit
[12:27] <davidcalle> are*
[12:57] <mick0> davidcalle: Ok.
[12:58] <davidcalle> mick0, thanks. How is the IMDB thing going on?
[13:00] <mick0> Right now, its only quick results to the global search.
[13:00] <davidcalle> mick0, ok :)
[13:00] <mick0> I did not find a way to get out more info then to show like that. Could only find icon, title and main actors / main movies.
[13:01] <mick0> So it was hard to do anything like what you proposed.
[13:01] <davidcalle> mick0, and clicking a result opens the IMDB page?
[13:01] <mick0> yes
[13:02] <mick0> davidcalle: https://code.launchpad.net/~mikaelsahlstrom/+junk/unity-lens-imdb
[13:05] <mick0> davidcalle: regarding long descriptions: Most of them are basicly what the short description says so it seems redundant.
[13:09] <davidcalle> mick0, agreed. From what I've seen short descriptions are usually just human friendly package names, like Unity Music lens. If the SC category is Dash search plugins : what about "<something> search plugin" and for the scopes "<something> engine" ?
[13:11] <mick0> What do you mean by SC category?
[13:11] <davidcalle> Software Center category
[13:11] <mick0> oh. ok
[13:12] <davidcalle> By design, lenses will be in "Themes & Tweaks" > "Dash search plugins"
[13:12] <mick0> davidcalle: Sounds good. :)
[13:12] <BerndSch> davidcalle: Hello, David
[13:13] <davidcalle> BerndSch, hi!
[13:13] <mick0> Im woundering if we should write more exactly what the scope does in the long descrition. For example: Will users understand that the pirate bay scope will not download torrents for them or that the grooveshark scope dones not add play sound capabilitys to the music lens?
[13:14] <BerndSch> davidcalle: I have a question regarding ppa
[13:14] <davidcalle> mick0, I agree. It should be a precise description.
[13:15] <davidcalle> BerndSch, yes?
[13:15] <BerndSch> davidcalle: at the moment my lens name is unity-sshsearch-lens, but your lense-names starts all with unity-lens-xxxx. How can I control the package name? For my personal paa I changed the debian/control file, but this didn't help
[13:17] <davidcalle> BerndSch, I don't really know where the package name is defined... As long as it's the same in your setup.py, debian/changelog and control, it should work.
[13:19] <BerndSch> davidcalle: ok, i will try again. I will come back for the integration my lens into the scopes ppa later
[13:19] <davidcalle> BerndSch, and yes, we use unity-lens-* because it's the way default lenses are packaged, so it's a good default to follow.
[13:48] <mhall119> davidcalle: since scopes will only be displayed in USC as add-ons, will the long description even be displayed, or does it only use short description?
[13:49] <davidcalle> mhall119, short, I guess. But I don't know what will happen if you explicitly search for 'unity-scope-something'.
[13:50] <davidcalle> mhall119, let me check the specs.
[13:51] <davidcalle> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#Add-on_packages yes, short.
[13:55] <mhall119> so the long description for scopes is only going to be displayed on apt/aptitude
[13:57] <mhall119> in that case, it can probably be more technical, like saying what data it can pull from what api, etc
[15:16] <BerndSch> davidcalle: ok, I renamed the package to unity-lens-sshsearch. What should I do now to get my package into the scopes ppa?
[15:19] <davidcalle> BerndSch, I've added you to the PPA team. On your branch page, there is a "1 recipe using this" link. On the recipe page, you have to "Request build", you choose the scopes-packagers PPA, for Oneiric and Precise.
[15:20] <davidcalle> BerndSch, and you just need to do this, each time you want want to push a new version to the PPA.
[15:24] <BerndSch> davidcalle: ok, thank you. the package is currently building
[15:26] <davidcalle> BerndSch, you're welcome :) I've created a page to track everything in the PPA, before submission to the Software center. I will add your lens in a few moments : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jiK8aXFQtEP1ifK6ToxX7CdQojLVmRPpmV_w9DUqs6c/edit
[15:34] <BerndSch> davidcalle: nice, hope this lens could be useful for a lot of users
[15:34] <davidcalle> BerndSch, I'm pretty sure it will ;-)
[15:38] <davidcalle> BerndSch, I believe you have requested your build for the wrong PPA :)
[15:41] <BerndSch> davidcalle: I requested the build for the other paa now.
[15:42] <BerndSch> davidcalle: I deleted the packages from the other paa. Hope this wasn't no problem
[15:42] <davidcalle> BerndSch, no problem. I've made the same mistake a lot of times.
[15:43] <BerndSch> davidcalle: yes, the other paa is default in the list
[15:43] <davidcalle> BerndSch, yes, it's alphabetical. I'm going to change the name of the adult one to avoid this.
[15:48] <davidcalle> BerndSch, done. Thanks for reminding me this was a potential issue.
[16:12] <Debolaz> Is there any url describing changes happening to unity for the next ubuntu version?
[20:21] <gang65> hi
[20:22] <gang65> I need advice
[20:25] <gang65> I already send mail to ayatana
[20:26] <mhall119> gang65: it's a weekend, you may not get a response until tomorrow at the earliest
[20:27] <gang65> ok
[20:27] <gang65> thanks
[20:27] <gang65> i will contact tommorow
[20:55] <bernie> mhall119: regarding the workspace indicator on the launcher, on one of my machines it stopped working after an upgrade (i click on it and nothing happens)
[20:55] <bernie> mhall119: even when it works, it doesn't indicate which desktop you're currently in (and it also disappears when the launcher hides).
[20:57] <bernie> mhall119: what i'd need is a small indicator that tells me my current position all the time so i know which way to go to get to the browser or to the shell...
[20:57] <bernie> mhall119: i hope this doesn't sound too demanding :)
[21:07] <mhall119> bernie: there are no indicators in teh launcher, I think you're mixing terms here
[21:08] <mhall119> it's probably possible to make a panel indicator that shows your workspaces and hilights the current one, but I don't think anyone has made such a thing yet
[21:31] <bernie> mhall119: no i really meant what i said: what i need is a workspace indicator (in the panel) rather than the workspace switcher (in the launcher)
[22:35] <mhall119> bernie: that's what I'm talking about too
[22:40] <bernie> mhall119: there's one already, although it seems unmaintained: https://launchpad.net/~geod/+archive/ppa-geod
[22:49] <mhall119> bernie: well you can start from there, grab the .deb and try installing it, if there's an error grab the source
[22:57] <bernie> mhall119: i'm already using it. it does not start automatically, though.
[22:58] <bernie> mhall119: i was just pointing out that it would be a useful addition for all unity users
[22:58] <bernie> it's too bad one has to go find it in some obscure ppa
[22:59] <snadge> ubuntu 12.04 still has the focus problem with firefox
[22:59] <snadge> doh :p