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Roeyhey all00:34
RoeyI upgraded to kde 4.7.3 and now all my GTK apps show a black background instead of white.  Argh!  What changed???00:35
Roeyhey schnelle00:38
Roeyany helper here?00:38
Roeyhey skfin00:41
Roeygod this is totally messed up here with the foreground colors for GTK apps... everything is black on black here.... I had just upgraded to kde 4.7.3 and this problem pops up.  Has nyone else seen it?00:44
SnowhogRoey: What Desktop Theme were you using before the upgrade to KDE 4.7.3?00:47
Roeycustom00:47
RoeySnowhog:  custom; I tried changing it but the GTK apps still show black-on-black.   KDE apps don't show this.00:48
Roeyi.e. KDE apps appear normal.]00:49
SnowhogRoey: Switch to a supported theme as a test and see how the GTK apps appear.00:49
Roeyok, brb00:50
RoeySnowhog:  still the same thing; I changed it to Air and started a new instance of XCHat and see the same thing still.00:51
RoeySnowhog:  when I re-started KDE to 4.7.3, I just logged out and logged back in; was there anything lingering in the background GTK-wise, you think?  Maybe I should restart all of X?00:52
SnowhogRoey: In System Settings > Application Appearance > GTK+ Appearance > Widget style, change from oxygen-gtk to Raleigh. Close and relaunch XCHat. Close XCHat. Reset back to oxygen-gtk and relaunch XCHat.00:54
Roeyone second, doing that now.00:54
RoeySnowhog:  same thing.00:57
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SnowhogRoey: Installed xchat here in Kubuntu 11.10 running KDE 4.7.4. I'm using the Oxygen (dark) Desktop Theme. xchat displays just fine.01:04
Roeyoh01:06
skfinermm wat01:06
Roeywhy isn't this kde 4.7.4... one sec01:06
skfinskfin_ wwwat01:07
Roeydah!!! I have to re-start X it seems... logging out and logging in just ain't enough to get kde 4.7.4 to take...01:07
Roeygrr.01:07
Roeybrb01:07
skfinI think my irssi has its own mind01:12
HomeRoeysnowhog: ok, restarting all of X did the trick.01:16
SnowhogHomeRoey: :)01:17
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viKtor_hey guys how can i find styles for kde? oxygen is terrible :S02:31
brian9i am having trouble booting my installation02:48
brian9paste.ubuntu.com/79663402:49
brian9anyone care to help?02:49
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Linkmastermy sound died after an update, what should i do to troubleshoot this? i dont use any odd sound cards, its just a generic laptop04:15
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deer3212what is the terminal shortcut for kubuntu?05:45
deer3212to open a terminal05:46
deer3212did anyone tested on a real machine 12.04?05:56
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folstoIf I change the color of a directory in dolphin, where is this info stored?07:11
phphi, can somebody please tell me how I can edit the KDEInit? Removed screenlets and at startup it still tries loading the screenlets-daemon.py07:12
abhijeethi guys .. recently I installed kubuntu 11.10...07:44
abhijeetbut I am facing one issue with this version of kubuntu... some times shutdown is not working... I have to manully shutdown the lappy by power button..07:45
abhijeetcan anyone guide me to how can i debug the issue.07:45
wifahello all07:53
abhijeetany input guys07:56
phpsame here abhijeet08:00
abhijeetphp: did u got any solution to this issue..08:01
phpnot at all08:01
abhijeetI am checking the net and found many are facing the same issue..08:01
phpinstalled kubuntu today and it happened 3 or 4 times08:01
abhijeetthis is happening in ubuntu and kubuntu.. I switch to kubuntu just bcuz of this issue.08:01
abhijeetphp: same problem here..08:01
abhijeetphp: does ur machine have ati drivers08:03
phpyes, it does08:04
phpbut the issue already occured before I installed the catalyst control stuff08:04
phpso, even without additional drivers08:04
abhijeetphp: okay..08:04
abhijeetphp: check this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/88988208:18
ubottuUbuntu bug 889882 in linux (Ubuntu) "problem with shutdown ubuntu 11.10 x64" [Medium,Confirmed]08:18
abhijeetvote it so that we can get fix asap in main kernel08:19
php2I still got that problem with KDEInit trying to launch screenlets-daemon.py although I removed screenlets08:19
php2can anyone help me please resolving this?08:20
droxI have a problem with samba, I can not connect with my network HD. My network consists of a modem and a router ip 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1 HD is connected to the router. Using dolphin and I going to find the network router (Belkin), but does not go and tell me the location smb: / is not valid.08:33
droxAnother problem is that the apple does not remember his ip: (08:34
yottabitwhat do you guys think is going on...08:59
yottabitin takeoff...08:59
yottabitthe favorites aren't being show.09:00
yottabitn09:00
Peace-...09:00
Peace-right click show favorites09:00
yottabiti know09:00
yottabitwhen you make something a favorite it goes below where the invisible icons are09:00
yottabitlike the favorite icons are actually being shown...09:01
Peace-i dont use take off but try to configure it to use smaller icons09:02
Peace-or less rows lines09:02
yottabitit's been awhile since i've tried fixing it so i can't really give more info atm09:03
yottabiti'll see what i can do09:03
yottabiti know there's a text file somewhere specifying what's in the favs09:03
yottabit~/.local/share/Trash/files/takeoffrc09:03
yottabitno wait :)09:03
yottabit~/.kde/share/config/takeoffrc09:03
yottabitbam09:04
yottabitdeleting it seems to fix the problem since it had to be regenerated09:04
Peace-i use shelf btw09:05
Peace-i think it's better09:05
yottabittakeoff looks better09:05
yottabitand i'm about to be promoting kde09:05
Peace-yottabit: so you could install plasma panel collection xD09:05
yottabiteh?09:06
Peace-yottabit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_qR-7FQHxc&feature=g-upl&context=G2589d63AUAAAAAAACAA09:06
yottabitoh yeah09:08
yottabiti've already done that09:08
yottabitthese two things should just be the default, imho09:09
yottabitat least in kubuntu09:09
Peace-:) i did that09:09
Peace-xD09:09
yottabit"what do i love kde?"09:10
yottabit"elegant crashes!"09:10
yottabit;P09:10
Peace-LOL09:10
Peace-here never seen big crash since 4.3 \ 4.209:10
Peace-yottabit: btw you have already installed plasma panels collection ?09:11
Peace-just to be sure09:11
Peace-i am modifying it nwo09:11
yottabitare you referring to icon-only-task-manager?09:13
yottabitthat's what i thought you were talking about09:13
yottabitwhat's the package name?09:13
Peace-yottabit: no09:14
Peace-yottabit: i did a collection of panels09:14
yottabitoh boy09:14
yottabitsearch and launch workspace shows nothing09:14
yottabithow can i show off activities if this isn't working...09:14
yottabitmaybe i disabled it09:14
Peace-yottabit: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Plasma+Panels+Collection+?content=14758909:15
Peace-yottabit:   look at this http://kde-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/147589-1.jpeg09:15
yottabitwoah09:16
yottabiti thought this was workspaces task in the future... but maybe not09:16
Peace-i use it now xD09:16
Peace-it works on kde 4.7.4 and older very well09:17
yottabitsweet09:18
yottabitinstalled09:18
yottabitinstalling all the available widgets as well09:18
yottabitwhile all that's downloading, going to try and get the search and launch workspace looking like the normal notebook look/feel09:19
rorkI have a problem with sending email in kmail. Kmail uses IMAP for receiving and SMTP for sending, however when I send a new mail, or a reply the email just sits in the local outbox and isn't sent. I can send messages over that SMTP server with a perl script. I can't find anything that looks related in .xsession-errors or the akonadi logs and can't find where to look further.  Does anyone have an idea?09:20
yon_i am in a dire need of help09:32
yon_can someone help please09:32
rork!ask | yon_09:32
ubottuyon_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:32
yon_i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager09:33
yon_like krunner, wine, lxde ppa's09:33
yon_i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager09:34
yon_i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager09:34
yon_i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager09:34
yon_i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager09:34
FloodBotK3yon_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:34
yon_i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager09:34
rorkyon_: we know, there's no need to repeat that 6 times09:35
yon_so...09:35
rorkso if someone knows which ppa's you're looking for he'll tell you09:36
yon_krunner ppa09:36
yon_lxde ppa09:36
yon_go programming ppa09:36
yon_eclipse ppa09:36
Peace-yon_: ppa are not supported.09:36
Peace-only official repositories are supported here.09:37
Peace-you need ppa = search on google09:37
yon_why not, i used chromium ppa to download chromium09:37
Peace-ppa are made by others09:37
Peace-and they are unstable not tested.09:37
Peace-so it can destroy your distro if you don't know what you are doing09:37
Peace-please stop to ask ppa09:38
Peace-!ppa09:38
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa09:38
yonor is there a site with a list of ppa's09:43
yonor is there a site with a list of ppa's09:44
Peace-sudo apt-get install ppasearch09:44
Peace-yon: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas09:45
Peace-yon: you don't read dude09:45
Peace-yon: for example https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=krunner09:46
yonhey thanks, but what do you mean about the "you don't read dude"09:46
Peace-yon: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa09:46
Peace-yon: there was the same link i have repeated09:47
Peace-re-typed09:47
rorkSending email works again, it appeared that the Akonadi email dispatcher was offline (I had to install akonadiconsole which shows a list of active agents and the log I was looking after)09:47
yonmy bad i didn't see it, the connection in here come and goes09:47
yoncan i change the file manager from dolphin to nautilus09:57
yonhow?09:57
Peace-why wtf09:57
Peace-hahahah09:57
Peace-system settings => top right ==> search box ==> default applications09:58
yoncan you be more specific10:00
caesar_how can i share a folder in a vbox with win7?10:01
Peace-yon: 1 first why you need nautilus10:01
Peace-yon: second you don't read10:02
Peace-yon: [10:58] <Peace-> system settings => top right ==> search box ==> default applications +10:02
Peace-yon: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/08/plasma-desktopFb3411.png10:02
yoncause nautilus is powerful than dolphin to doesn't stall and the second question i told you to me more specific10:03
Peace-ok dude you have some problems10:03
yonsorry for the inconvenence, i have walked through, thanks but sorry again. I just ported to kubuntu not for long.10:04
Peace-yon: nautilus is not better than dolphin10:06
yonit's is sometime when i am in a folder with file more than 5k like in cache, and if i want to swith from icons veiw mode to details veiw mode, dolphin just stall.10:07
Peace-yon: kde version ?10:08
yon4.7.110:09
Peace-yon: it's old10:09
Peace-yon: kubuntu 11.10?10:09
yonit is pre-loaded with kubuntu 11.1010:10
yonyes, isn't it the latest10:10
Peace-you should upgrade kde10:10
yonhey man, the connection i am using at a internet cafe, does go up from 20 kbs10:11
Peace-yon: well you are using an old installation of kde10:12
Peace-there is another program if you are using 32bit that could help you10:12
Peace-if you have issue on dolphin10:12
yonwhat10:12
Peace-btw upgrade kde  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:12
Peace-and now the program10:12
Peace-yon: http://www.qtfm.org/10:13
yonis there and window exe runner in kubuntu10:22
Peace-wine10:22
Peace-!wine10:22
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu10:22
yonwine's ppa's please10:22
Peace-yon: sudo apt-get install wine10:25
Peace-wine  file.exe10:25
Peace-that's all10:25
yonunable to locate wine=response10:25
Peace-sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install wine10:27
yonhey the sudo apt-get update takes me a lot of time, i told the connection is not more than 20kbs10:27
yonit's slow10:27
Peace-no way.10:28
yonyes way10:28
Peace-or you do the update10:28
Peace-or you will not get wine10:28
Peace-as you wish10:28
Peace-or you can download manually tons of packages10:28
yonwell it fell bad to head that10:28
Peace-that are the wine dependences10:28
yonwhat about using ppa10:29
Peace-yon:  you don'0t undestand what ppa is10:30
Peace-that your problem10:30
Peace-ppa is a repository10:30
Peace-a server where you can download packages10:30
Peace-.10:30
FloodBotK3Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:30
Peace-but you have to download10:30
Peace-and every time you add a ppa you need to do an  update ... just to downloa the list your ppa has into10:30
Peace-yon: do you use linux since weeks?10:31
yonyes when i add to the the packages manager, it will add the list of packages, so i can download file by file10:31
Peace-omg10:32
Peace-yon: totally noob10:32
yonhey man ubuntu lucid is pre-added many packages to be percise  30,00010:32
Peace-yon: that's because you used the livecd like repository10:32
yonhey hear me out for a minute, will you10:33
sibraciao10:34
yonWhen i was using lucid it have about 30,000 packages list's, when i am to install a program i will select it and see the depenecy, then i use pkgs.org and download all of the required packages, then i copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and run synaptik and select the programm i want to install it just download them from the cache.10:36
Peace-yon: this is insane10:38
Peace-yon: when you do sudo apt-get install program it does it automatically10:38
Peace-from internet10:39
Peace-yon: if you have a cdrom you can add that cd rom like repository10:39
Peace-and install from it10:39
Peace-without downloading10:39
yoni don;t have cd10:39
yonyou have 100 or 200 kbs speed whenever you fell like update or donwload, everything is just a click away for you, for me it's about 10 or 20 hours of clicks10:40
Peace-yon: wtf download it form someone you are doing an insane thing10:43
Peace-yon: look you are doing it wrong10:43
yonit's just the way to do it for me, if you care send me a cd full of packages10:44
yonespecially kde latest10:44
Peace-yon: you can request a free cd10:44
yonhey i tried they say they are closed10:45
lady_whitehello everyone10:46
yoncan you tell me the free cd sites10:46
Peace-yon: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=91710:46
yonwhat is the latest kde version10:47
lady_whiteI have some problems with empathy connection chat...anyone can help me?10:50
Peace-empaty is not gtk?10:50
lady_whiteyeah i think10:51
jester-hi10:52
lady_whiteso anyone can help me?10:53
jester-!english | lady_white10:53
ubottulady_white: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList10:53
jester-sorry wron acrtions10:54
jester-action*10:54
lady_whitei cant connect with my yahoo account in empathy chat10:54
lady_whiteok anyone cant help me....bye10:57
yoni cant make the pay asshole i am in a third world country10:59
yoni cant make the pay asshole i am in a third world country10:59
FloodBotK3yon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:59
yonrekonq is so slow11:02
yonrekonq is so slow11:03
yonrekonq is so slow11:03
yonrekonq is so slow11:03
yonrekonq is so slow11:03
yonrekonq is so slow11:03
FloodBotK3yon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:03
ubuntuhello11:16
joseluishello11:16
joseluishi11:16
ubuntui'm a newbie here11:16
Peace-hi...11:17
joseluishi Peace11:17
ubuntucan i ask some question about kubuntu?11:17
ubuntuhi peace11:17
Peace-!ask | ubuntu11:17
ubottuubuntu: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience11:17
ubuntuoke..i see :)11:18
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venice_hi, i'm experiencing unreasonably long boot times on my notebook using kubuntu 11.10 and the system seems to halt for a while before it shows the boot splash (some 20-30 seconds). dmesg-log: http://paste.kde.org/183668/  bootchart:  http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9822/unicornoneiric201201083.png . also the bootchart seems very strange because some process seem to run for ages before something happens.13:37
venice_(the notebook is a nearly 3 year old dell vostro 1310 so not really any fancy hardware in it :/ )13:37
Peace-venice_: should be a kernel issue13:45
venice_:/13:45
venice_that makes two now :/13:45
venice_cardreader dead and this one great ^^13:45
Peace-venice_: report the bug please13:45
Peace-ubuntu-bug on terminal13:46
venice_is there a way to add multiple attachments to the bugreport?14:00
venice_^^14:00
venice_or better what should i attach Peace-? the bootchart?14:01
venice_sorry for asking first time ^^14:02
Peace-venice_: no just do that . ubuntu-bug14:02
Peace-venice_: you will lead  step by step14:02
venice_yeah i did some window popped up and in the end it sent me to launchpad14:02
Peace-venice_: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-plasma-desktopxh732214:03
Peace-venice_: yes .. you need an account...14:03
venice_i have one14:03
Peace-venice_: ok login it will attach all the informations14:04
Peace-venice_: after that... you can describe yur prolbem14:04
Peace-if you think a screnshot or a picture it could be usefull you can attach them after14:04
venice_kk14:04
BluesKajHey folks14:23
lethuhai BluesKaj14:25
lethuBluesKaj, go ahead if you have an issue with your system and need help14:26
BluesKajhi lethu...fine today , just reverted to 11.10 after having kernel panic and no grub or tty acces on 12.0414:27
lethu12.04, is that a testing release BluesKaj?14:28
BluesKajyes14:28
Peace-BluesKaj: yhahaha14:28
Peace-:P14:28
* Peace- is on 12.04 and it works14:28
lethuBluesKaj, testing releases' purpose is generally testing, and a bunch of bugs and instability are to be expected14:29
BluesKajlethu,  Peace- , yet my other pc , an 6 yr old compaq single core cpu 64 bit pc , didn't have that problem on 12.04 ..go figure :)14:29
Peace- BluesKaj :)14:30
BluesKajPeace-,  which kde are you running?14:33
BluesKajwhat's the word on kde 4.8 with kubuntu 11.10 ?14:37
lethuBluesKaj, Kde 4.8 currently is at it's second release candidate14:41
lethuBluesKaj, I heard the release version is set for March14:41
lethufinal*14:41
PaulW2Ulethu: KDE 4.8 is due for release 25 January14:43
lethuPaulW2U, even better then14:44
lethuPaulW2U, thanks for correcting me14:44
schnelleblur effect rocks in kde 4.8 :)14:53
schnellei am using oxygen-transparent so everything is blured14:53
schnelleand my 4 year old laptop with ati 128mb vram graphic work with it very well14:54
schnelle:)14:54
BluesKajschnelle,  ok great , glad to hear , just added the ppa ...I'll soon know how it works on my setup15:05
schnelleBluesKaj: if you have plasma-widget-icon-tasks installed15:06
schnelleremove it before upgrade15:06
schnelle!15:06
schnelleit will brake upgrade to 4.8 rc215:06
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schnelleicontasks are now officially part of kde (4.8)15:07
Peace-BluesKaj: 4.8 rc215:17
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lahwranhow do you set up the gtk/qt theme bridge in kde4 so that gtk apps look like native qt?16:20
Peace-lahwran: kubuntu has that by default16:22
lahwranit seems to have been messed up ...16:22
Peace-lahwran: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-plasma-desktopkz732216:24
lahwranalright, thanks16:25
lahwranI'm attempting to get a windows-to-linux convert to actually /try/ a few desktops before settling on one, not just go "I don't understand this!"16:25
lahwranhe started on xubuntu, I had him install kubuntu-desktop16:25
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danilohi16:42
lahwranhi16:45
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* BluesKaj nervously awaits the kde 4.8 beta install ...17:17
nikkhigh all first time here17:19
nikki'm having issues getting kdm to get to my desktop. It loads but then get stuck at the loading screen17:19
nikkany suggestions ?17:20
anka_hilfe17:25
arkaddreI installed both wicd and have set a CIFS share as auto in /etc/fstab but reboots hang for 5 minutes because wicd shuts down before network filesystems are unmounted in /etc/rc6.d17:27
arkaddre(K20wicd < S31umountnfs.sh)17:28
arkaddreTwo questions: what's the significance, if any, between K and S as prefixes in /etc/rc[1-6].d?17:28
arkaddreAnd: I want wicd after umountnfs but before networking in rc6. I could obviously just rename the symlinks as-is but where do they come from?17:29
arkaddrethey're not present in the .deb files for the wicd (or its daemon)17:30
arkaddreand under what circumstances, if any, will that renaming be disrupted (e.g. by recreating the bad wicd symlink in /etc/rc6.d and ending up with duplicate symlinks) by wicd package updates?17:31
arkaddreWhat's happening is reminiscent of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/21163117:32
ubottuUbuntu bug 211631 in wpasupplicant (Ubuntu) "Network is brought down before network filesystems are unmounted (CIFS timeout at shutdown)" [Medium,Confirmed]17:32
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macman_hey! how can i prevent kubuntu from hibernating rather than suspend? thanks using desktop18:23
Resistancemacman_:  power settings perhaps?18:24
Resistancewe'd need more context to understand what you want it to do18:25
macman_well if you leave the machine alone it will hibernate, not uspend, how did i change that? power management seems for laptops thanks18:28
BluesKajmacman_,  kmenu>computer>systemsettings>power management18:34
Peace-BluesKaj: hi19:03
Peace-BluesKaj: i have added  a feature to lprinter-qt , print openoffice stuff19:04
BluesKajPeace-,  I don't use OO , and I just install kde 4.8 beta , so I think I'll pass til I'm sure all is well , but thanks anyway :)19:11
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georgehello. it seems i've messed my bluetooth packages up. Can anyone tell me which ones are installed by default (Kubuntu 11.10)?21:08
utenteyou can look at the history of what you installed.21:12
utentewhat do you mean that you messed them up?21:12
qbitgeorge: I am uncertain which are default as I may have installed something and not noticed, but on my box I have: bluetooth, bluez(amd64), bluez-cups, bluez-tools, libbluetooth3, bluez-alsa(amd64), bluez-gstreamer, and libbluedevil121:14
georgeutente: hello. well, since the 11.10 upgrade, bluetooth stopped working ("adapters not found"). so, i've tried to install some other bluetooth managers, but then i've installed other bluetooth packages and know it doesn't even show on panel... :(21:15
georgeqbit: thanks21:15
qbitI think the bluez ones might be for KDE while there are others I do not have installed which are Gnome21:15
georgehum... it seems i don't have bluez-tools...21:18
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georgeno, i have them all. i don't get it...21:22
droxI have a problem with samba, I can not connect with my network HD. My network consists of a modem and a router ip 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1 HD is connected to the router. Using dolphin and I going to find the network router (Belkin), but does not go and tell me the location smb: / is not valid.21:28
qbitgeorge: I don't have/use bluetooth on this box but the error suggests no kernel or driver module loading21:28
droxAnother problem is that the apple does not remember his ip: (21:28
georgeqbit: is there a way to fix it?21:28
qbitgeorge: I'd look at lsmod and dmesg and /var/log/messages and look for anything bluetooth relates (error)21:29
georgeqbit: lsmod says bluetooth             166112  10 rfcomm,bnep21:30
qbitmy guess is that means the support is there and you wills ee it activate somewhere in dmesg21:32
qbitbut I'm limited in what I can suggest21:32
qbitbut if the underlying support for the hardware is present it reinforces the idea that it's a messed up config problem21:33
BluesKajdrox check out NAS21:33
qbitgeorge: with the most likely candidate being /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf21:34
georgeqbit:# /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf21:36
george-bash: /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf: Permission denied21:36
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qbitgeorge: looks like those files are part of the bluez(amd64) package21:39
qbitif you should decide to delete it as a package for subsequent reinstall, choose the 'purge' option21:39
qbitusing 'purge' should wipe any residual config and allow you to start over from scratch21:40
qbitother than that I'm about out of ideas21:40
georgeqbit: thanks a lot21:40
georgeqbit: will check that21:42
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droxBluesKaj: NAS what's it?21:43
BluesKajnetwork attached storage21:44
droxWhat should I do?21:45
droxBluesKaj:  What should I do?21:46
BluesKajwhat kind of network drive setup exactly drox21:47
droxthen my HD is connected to the Router (Belkin)21:48
BluesKajwhy connect it to the router , unless it has accessible software to configure it for network use , drox21:50
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droxBluesKaj: Yes, exactly, is a network hd is only by Eth21:51
BluesKajdrox that is known as NAS , if it's a dedicated drive for network sharing21:51
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droxmy hd is westdigital21:52
droxa MyBookWorld21:52
droxthe strange thing is that before I was using Ubuntu and I recognized it without any problems using samba ... more The problem is that I no longer remember the IP address BluesKaj21:54
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hellslinger_for some reason kde is not turning my screen off even though the power profile is configured correctly and it is set to the profile, is there a daemon that should be running for this to work right?21:56
FloodBotK3!netsplit21:58
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit21:58
BluesKajdrox,  have you tried restarting network interfaces ,  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart21:59
qbithellslinger_: look in systensettings -> startup and shutdown -> service manager for Power management daemon21:59
droxok i do and now? do i repaet to search network with dolphin?22:00
hellslinger_qbit: yeah it is there and checked, can I verify that it is running and didn't crash at launch?22:01
qbithellslinger_: I don't have it running on my box here, so not sure what it would look like in ps aux, but yes - if it's running you should see it in ps somewhere22:02
droxdrox@DragonFly:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  * Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces  * Reconfiguring network interfaces... [ OK ]22:02
droxdrox@DragonFly:~$22:02
BluesKajdrox , have you upgraded ?22:05
qbithellslinger_: guess here is the kde power management service depends on upowerd, which should be started at boot and there should be a /usr/lib/upower/upowerd entry in ps for it to attach to22:06
droxwhat?22:06
BluesKajupdated/upgraded any networking apps or kde etc , drox22:07
droxI installed kubuntu from scratch and just finished 11.10 isntalalto the repo medubuntu I gave a sudo apt-get update & upgrade, but why is?22:08
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BluesKajso you installed samba too ?22:09
droxIt is not installed by default on kubuntu? BluesKaj22:10
droxI thought it was seen that the dolphin has built-in key network and works with smb. I have heard bad about it?22:11
BluesKajnot sure , drox , check by doing sudo apt-get install samba22:11
qbitunless I'm mistaken Dolphin uses smbclient for smb:/ kio22:12
BluesKajdrox, I use ssh and NFS ...think I had to install samba after mylast clean OS install22:12
droxIn fact, I assumed wrong, I'm installing the package22:12
droxbut samba does not work reboot and try again now, hello and thank you22:18
BluesKajdrox,  install netdiscover to find IPs on your LAN , vet handy22:22
BluesKajerr very22:22
droxi source IP at hand, and i find it!!! thank22:25
BluesKajdrox,  working now ?22:27
utentekubuntu has smb/samba "client" installed by default however the "server" is not.22:33
BluesKajutente,  ah , ok thanks22:34
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hellslinger_qbit: I'm looking into this upowerd  issue, what do you mean by an 'entry in ps'?23:01
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qbithellslinger_: sorry, was out for food23:27
qbitps   <- command that lists all running processes23:28
hellslinger_qbit: no problem, thanks for msging me back23:28
hellslinger_haha yeah I picked up on that a few minutes later23:28
hellslinger_I'm getting an error that says 'not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.UPower" due to security policies in the configuration file"23:29
qbitI think with the switch to udev and upowerd they communicate via dbus if I have it right in my head23:29
qbitthat sounds like a policykit or apparmor deal23:29
qbithellslinger_: I recently started using Kubuntu, recently switched away from openSUSE23:32
qbithellslinger_: in openSUSE they have a module in Yast for configuring the policies and permissions your error is describing, but haven't learned or found the eqivalent config utility in Kubuntu as of yet23:33
hellslingerqbit: I'm at a loss, I've never had to deal with either of those things, do you have any advice about how to troubleshoot permissions or config files for those things?23:35
qbitnot really23:36
qbitbut I suspect it has something to do with policykit if I had to take a wild guess23:36
hellslingercool, well that's probably a good enough starting point, much appreciated23:37
hellslingerqbit: does kubuntu work better when unity and gnome have been removed from the system?23:38
qbithave no idea - I've been a KDE user since KDE 1.45 and have never like Gnome23:38
qbiteven though it is almost truly impossible to have a system which is perfectly clean with only bits from one23:39
hellslingerhaha nice... I do keep coming  back to KDE when I get tired of the inability to configure unity/gnome the way I want23:39
hellslingerI've had conisderable difficulty with laptop power management and KDE which is what kept me from going all the way23:40
qbiteven though my system is mostly KDE there is still a  few Gnomish support stuff on it23:40
qbityeah - I'm not a laptop user so it's of no real importance to me - but if I did use a laptop it would become real important real quick23:41
HearsFredThe last time I used IRC was with mIRC on windows - now I'm trying Konversation on Ubuntu and can't get it to connect to any Undernet servers23:42
HearsFredI get a "Connection to server (whatever.undernet.org) lost. Unknown error.23:43
HearsFredCan anyone advise me about what I might try?23:43
hellslingerI've never used konversation, have you tried quassel?23:43
HearsFredno, but happy to give it a try23:44
qbitI use KVirc and even so Undernet can be problematic23:45
qbitso I set it to retry every 10 minutes until it finally gets in23:46
qbitevery once in a while I can get onto Undernet in one try but mostly not23:46
HearsFredI understand that undernet servers fill up and I always had some trouble connecting, but the error I get seems to be before any negotiation23:46
qbitmost Undernet servers in the US have DNS A records that don't match their corresponding PTR records23:47
HearsFredany chance they block Comcast users?23:47
qbitand my security is set up to refuse connections in such a case23:47
qbitI use diemen.nl.eu.undernet.org simply because they have good DNS23:48
qbitI do think they limit connections to a certain size pool for non-.eu people trying to use it23:49
qbitbut even though it was once not the case, for about the last year I've had problems getting connected to Undernet, usually enough retries sooner or later gets me in23:50
HearsFredI just tried diemen and got the same error immediately23:50
qbitI'm on diemen right now and have been for a few days23:51
HearsFredI feel like the error I get (or lack thereof), suggests I'm not having the typical connection problems23:52
HearsFredwhat port?23:52
qbitwell, almost anything network related I fire up Wireshark and do a cpature so I can look through it23:52
qbit666723:52
qbitmostly Wireshark doesn't actually solve anything directly, but it gives me a better view of what's going on23:53
qbitI have had problems with Undernet where I was getting null-routed by some ISP in Germany, and until they fixed it I was not able to connect23:55
qbitI have had that happen a few times23:55
qbitnothing I could do about that23:55
qbitbut if somebody between you and Undernet is messing with your connections, and it could even be Comcast doing it (I doubt Comcast would)h23:56

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