[00:34] <Roey> hey all
[00:35] <Roey> I upgraded to kde 4.7.3 and now all my GTK apps show a black background instead of white.  Argh!  What changed???
[00:38] <Roey> hey schnelle
[00:38] <Roey> any helper here?
[00:41] <Roey> hey skfin
[00:44] <Roey> god this is totally messed up here with the foreground colors for GTK apps... everything is black on black here.... I had just upgraded to kde 4.7.3 and this problem pops up.  Has nyone else seen it?
[00:47] <Snowhog> Roey: What Desktop Theme were you using before the upgrade to KDE 4.7.3?
[00:47] <Roey> custom
[00:48] <Roey> Snowhog:  custom; I tried changing it but the GTK apps still show black-on-black.   KDE apps don't show this.
[00:49] <Roey> i.e. KDE apps appear normal.]
[00:49] <Snowhog> Roey: Switch to a supported theme as a test and see how the GTK apps appear.
[00:50] <Roey> ok, brb
[00:51] <Roey> Snowhog:  still the same thing; I changed it to Air and started a new instance of XCHat and see the same thing still.
[00:52] <Roey> Snowhog:  when I re-started KDE to 4.7.3, I just logged out and logged back in; was there anything lingering in the background GTK-wise, you think?  Maybe I should restart all of X?
[00:54] <Snowhog> Roey: In System Settings > Application Appearance > GTK+ Appearance > Widget style, change from oxygen-gtk to Raleigh. Close and relaunch XCHat. Close XCHat. Reset back to oxygen-gtk and relaunch XCHat.
[00:54] <Roey> one second, doing that now.
[00:57] <Roey> Snowhog:  same thing.
[01:04] <Snowhog> Roey: Installed xchat here in Kubuntu 11.10 running KDE 4.7.4. I'm using the Oxygen (dark) Desktop Theme. xchat displays just fine.
[01:06] <Roey> oh
[01:06] <skfin> ermm wat
[01:06] <Roey> why isn't this kde 4.7.4... one sec
[01:07] <skfin> skfin_ wwwat
[01:07] <Roey> dah!!! I have to re-start X it seems... logging out and logging in just ain't enough to get kde 4.7.4 to take...
[01:07] <Roey> grr.
[01:07] <Roey> brb
[01:12] <skfin> I think my irssi has its own mind
[01:16] <HomeRoey> snowhog: ok, restarting all of X did the trick.
[01:17] <Snowhog> HomeRoey: :)
[02:31] <viKtor_> hey guys how can i find styles for kde? oxygen is terrible :S
[02:48] <brian9> i am having trouble booting my installation
[02:49] <brian9> paste.ubuntu.com/796634
[02:49] <brian9> anyone care to help?
[04:15] <Linkmaster> my sound died after an update, what should i do to troubleshoot this? i dont use any odd sound cards, its just a generic laptop
[05:45] <deer3212> what is the terminal shortcut for kubuntu?
[05:46] <deer3212> to open a terminal
[05:56] <deer3212> did anyone tested on a real machine 12.04?
[07:11] <folsto> If I change the color of a directory in dolphin, where is this info stored?
[07:12] <php> hi, can somebody please tell me how I can edit the KDEInit? Removed screenlets and at startup it still tries loading the screenlets-daemon.py
[07:44] <abhijeet> hi guys .. recently I installed kubuntu 11.10...
[07:45] <abhijeet> but I am facing one issue with this version of kubuntu... some times shutdown is not working... I have to manully shutdown the lappy by power button..
[07:45] <abhijeet> can anyone guide me to how can i debug the issue.
[07:53] <wifa> hello all
[07:56] <abhijeet> any input guys
[08:00] <php> same here abhijeet
[08:01] <abhijeet> php: did u got any solution to this issue..
[08:01] <php> not at all
[08:01] <abhijeet> I am checking the net and found many are facing the same issue..
[08:01] <php> installed kubuntu today and it happened 3 or 4 times
[08:01] <abhijeet> this is happening in ubuntu and kubuntu.. I switch to kubuntu just bcuz of this issue.
[08:01] <abhijeet> php: same problem here..
[08:03] <abhijeet> php: does ur machine have ati drivers
[08:04] <php> yes, it does
[08:04] <php> but the issue already occured before I installed the catalyst control stuff
[08:04] <php> so, even without additional drivers
[08:04] <abhijeet> php: okay..
[08:18] <abhijeet> php: check this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/889882
[08:19] <abhijeet> vote it so that we can get fix asap in main kernel
[08:19] <php2> I still got that problem with KDEInit trying to launch screenlets-daemon.py although I removed screenlets
[08:20] <php2> can anyone help me please resolving this?
[08:33] <drox> I have a problem with samba, I can not connect with my network HD. My network consists of a modem and a router ip 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1 HD is connected to the router. Using dolphin and I going to find the network router (Belkin), but does not go and tell me the location smb: / is not valid.
[08:34] <drox> Another problem is that the apple does not remember his ip: (
[08:59] <yottabit> what do you guys think is going on...
[08:59] <yottabit> in takeoff...
[09:00] <yottabit> the favorites aren't being show.
[09:00] <yottabit> n
[09:00] <Peace-> ...
[09:00] <Peace-> right click show favorites
[09:00] <yottabit> i know
[09:00] <yottabit> when you make something a favorite it goes below where the invisible icons are
[09:01] <yottabit> like the favorite icons are actually being shown...
[09:02] <Peace-> i dont use take off but try to configure it to use smaller icons
[09:02] <Peace-> or less rows lines
[09:03] <yottabit> it's been awhile since i've tried fixing it so i can't really give more info atm
[09:03] <yottabit> i'll see what i can do
[09:03] <yottabit> i know there's a text file somewhere specifying what's in the favs
[09:03] <yottabit> ~/.local/share/Trash/files/takeoffrc
[09:03] <yottabit> no wait :)
[09:03] <yottabit> ~/.kde/share/config/takeoffrc
[09:04] <yottabit> bam
[09:04] <yottabit> deleting it seems to fix the problem since it had to be regenerated
[09:05] <Peace-> i use shelf btw
[09:05] <Peace-> i think it's better
[09:05] <yottabit> takeoff looks better
[09:05] <yottabit> and i'm about to be promoting kde
[09:05] <Peace-> yottabit: so you could install plasma panel collection xD
[09:06] <yottabit> eh?
[09:06] <Peace-> yottabit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_qR-7FQHxc&feature=g-upl&context=G2589d63AUAAAAAAACAA
[09:08] <yottabit> oh yeah
[09:08] <yottabit> i've already done that
[09:09] <yottabit> these two things should just be the default, imho
[09:09] <yottabit> at least in kubuntu
[09:09] <Peace-> :) i did that
[09:09] <Peace-> xD
[09:10] <yottabit> "what do i love kde?"
[09:10] <yottabit> "elegant crashes!"
[09:10] <yottabit> ;P
[09:10] <Peace-> LOL
[09:10] <Peace-> here never seen big crash since 4.3 \ 4.2
[09:11] <Peace-> yottabit: btw you have already installed plasma panels collection ?
[09:11] <Peace-> just to be sure
[09:11] <Peace-> i am modifying it nwo
[09:13] <yottabit> are you referring to icon-only-task-manager?
[09:13] <yottabit> that's what i thought you were talking about
[09:13] <yottabit> what's the package name?
[09:14] <Peace-> yottabit: no
[09:14] <Peace-> yottabit: i did a collection of panels
[09:14] <yottabit> oh boy
[09:14] <yottabit> search and launch workspace shows nothing
[09:14] <yottabit> how can i show off activities if this isn't working...
[09:14] <yottabit> maybe i disabled it
[09:15] <Peace-> yottabit: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Plasma+Panels+Collection+?content=147589
[09:15] <Peace-> yottabit:   look at this http://kde-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/147589-1.jpeg
[09:16] <yottabit> woah
[09:16] <yottabit> i thought this was workspaces task in the future... but maybe not
[09:16] <Peace-> i use it now xD
[09:17] <Peace-> it works on kde 4.7.4 and older very well
[09:18] <yottabit> sweet
[09:18] <yottabit> installed
[09:18] <yottabit> installing all the available widgets as well
[09:19] <yottabit> while all that's downloading, going to try and get the search and launch workspace looking like the normal notebook look/feel
[09:20] <rork> I have a problem with sending email in kmail. Kmail uses IMAP for receiving and SMTP for sending, however when I send a new mail, or a reply the email just sits in the local outbox and isn't sent. I can send messages over that SMTP server with a perl script. I can't find anything that looks related in .xsession-errors or the akonadi logs and can't find where to look further.  Does anyone have an idea?
[09:32] <yon_> i am in a dire need of help
[09:32] <yon_> can someone help please
[09:32] <rork> !ask | yon_
[09:33] <yon_> i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager
[09:33] <yon_> like krunner, wine, lxde ppa's
[09:34] <yon_> i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager
[09:34] <yon_> i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager
[09:34] <yon_> i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager
[09:34] <yon_> i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager
[09:34] <FloodBotK3> yon_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:34] <yon_> i nee a list of ppa to add to my moun package manager
[09:35] <rork> yon_: we know, there's no need to repeat that 6 times
[09:35] <yon_> so...
[09:36] <rork> so if someone knows which ppa's you're looking for he'll tell you
[09:36] <yon_> krunner ppa
[09:36] <yon_> lxde ppa
[09:36] <yon_> go programming ppa
[09:36] <yon_> eclipse ppa
[09:36] <Peace-> yon_: ppa are not supported.
[09:37] <Peace-> only official repositories are supported here.
[09:37] <Peace-> you need ppa = search on google
[09:37] <yon_> why not, i used chromium ppa to download chromium
[09:37] <Peace-> ppa are made by others
[09:37] <Peace-> and they are unstable not tested.
[09:37] <Peace-> so it can destroy your distro if you don't know what you are doing
[09:38] <Peace-> please stop to ask ppa
[09:38] <Peace-> !ppa
[09:43] <yon> or is there a site with a list of ppa's
[09:44] <yon> or is there a site with a list of ppa's
[09:44] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install ppasearch
[09:45] <Peace-> yon: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[09:45] <Peace-> yon: you don't read dude
[09:46] <Peace-> yon: for example https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=krunner
[09:46] <yon> hey thanks, but what do you mean about the "you don't read dude"
[09:46] <Peace-> yon: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa
[09:47] <Peace-> yon: there was the same link i have repeated
[09:47] <Peace-> re-typed
[09:47] <rork> Sending email works again, it appeared that the Akonadi email dispatcher was offline (I had to install akonadiconsole which shows a list of active agents and the log I was looking after)
[09:47] <yon> my bad i didn't see it, the connection in here come and goes
[09:57] <yon> can i change the file manager from dolphin to nautilus
[09:57] <yon> how?
[09:57] <Peace-> why wtf
[09:57] <Peace-> hahahah
[09:58] <Peace-> system settings => top right ==> search box ==> default applications
[10:00] <yon> can you be more specific
[10:01] <caesar_> how can i share a folder in a vbox with win7?
[10:01] <Peace-> yon: 1 first why you need nautilus
[10:02] <Peace-> yon: second you don't read
[10:02] <Peace-> yon: [10:58] <Peace-> system settings => top right ==> search box ==> default applications +
[10:02] <Peace-> yon: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/08/plasma-desktopFb3411.png
[10:03] <yon> cause nautilus is powerful than dolphin to doesn't stall and the second question i told you to me more specific
[10:03] <Peace-> ok dude you have some problems
[10:04] <yon> sorry for the inconvenence, i have walked through, thanks but sorry again. I just ported to kubuntu not for long.
[10:06] <Peace-> yon: nautilus is not better than dolphin
[10:07] <yon> it's is sometime when i am in a folder with file more than 5k like in cache, and if i want to swith from icons veiw mode to details veiw mode, dolphin just stall.
[10:08] <Peace-> yon: kde version ?
[10:09] <yon> 4.7.1
[10:09] <Peace-> yon: it's old
[10:09] <Peace-> yon: kubuntu 11.10?
[10:10] <yon> it is pre-loaded with kubuntu 11.10
[10:10] <yon> yes, isn't it the latest
[10:10] <Peace-> you should upgrade kde
[10:11] <yon> hey man, the connection i am using at a internet cafe, does go up from 20 kbs
[10:12] <Peace-> yon: well you are using an old installation of kde
[10:12] <Peace-> there is another program if you are using 32bit that could help you
[10:12] <Peace-> if you have issue on dolphin
[10:12] <yon> what
[10:12] <Peace-> btw upgrade kde  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:12] <Peace-> and now the program
[10:13] <Peace-> yon: http://www.qtfm.org/
[10:22] <yon> is there and window exe runner in kubuntu
[10:22] <Peace-> wine
[10:22] <Peace-> !wine
[10:22] <yon> wine's ppa's please
[10:25] <Peace-> yon: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:25] <Peace-> wine  file.exe
[10:25] <Peace-> that's all
[10:25] <yon> unable to locate wine=response
[10:27] <Peace-> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install wine
[10:27] <yon> hey the sudo apt-get update takes me a lot of time, i told the connection is not more than 20kbs
[10:27] <yon> it's slow
[10:28] <Peace-> no way.
[10:28] <yon> yes way
[10:28] <Peace-> or you do the update
[10:28] <Peace-> or you will not get wine
[10:28] <Peace-> as you wish
[10:28] <Peace-> or you can download manually tons of packages
[10:28] <yon> well it fell bad to head that
[10:28] <Peace-> that are the wine dependences
[10:29] <yon> what about using ppa
[10:30] <Peace-> yon:  you don'0t undestand what ppa is
[10:30] <Peace-> that your problem
[10:30] <Peace-> ppa is a repository
[10:30] <Peace-> a server where you can download packages
[10:30] <Peace-> .
[10:30] <FloodBotK3> Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:30] <Peace-> but you have to download
[10:30] <Peace-> and every time you add a ppa you need to do an  update ... just to downloa the list your ppa has into
[10:31] <Peace-> yon: do you use linux since weeks?
[10:31] <yon> yes when i add to the the packages manager, it will add the list of packages, so i can download file by file
[10:32] <Peace-> omg
[10:32] <Peace-> yon: totally noob
[10:32] <yon> hey man ubuntu lucid is pre-added many packages to be percise  30,000
[10:32] <Peace-> yon: that's because you used the livecd like repository
[10:33] <yon> hey hear me out for a minute, will you
[10:34] <sibra> ciao
[10:36] <yon> When i was using lucid it have about 30,000 packages list's, when i am to install a program i will select it and see the depenecy, then i use pkgs.org and download all of the required packages, then i copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and run synaptik and select the programm i want to install it just download them from the cache.
[10:38] <Peace-> yon: this is insane
[10:38] <Peace-> yon: when you do sudo apt-get install program it does it automatically
[10:39] <Peace-> from internet
[10:39] <Peace-> yon: if you have a cdrom you can add that cd rom like repository
[10:39] <Peace-> and install from it
[10:39] <Peace-> without downloading
[10:39] <yon> i don;t have cd
[10:40] <yon> you have 100 or 200 kbs speed whenever you fell like update or donwload, everything is just a click away for you, for me it's about 10 or 20 hours of clicks
[10:43] <Peace-> yon: wtf download it form someone you are doing an insane thing
[10:43] <Peace-> yon: look you are doing it wrong
[10:44] <yon> it's just the way to do it for me, if you care send me a cd full of packages
[10:44] <yon> especially kde latest
[10:44] <Peace-> yon: you can request a free cd
[10:45] <yon> hey i tried they say they are closed
[10:46] <lady_white> hello everyone
[10:46] <yon> can you tell me the free cd sites
[10:46] <Peace-> yon: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=917
[10:47] <yon> what is the latest kde version
[10:50] <lady_white> I have some problems with empathy connection chat...anyone can help me?
[10:50] <Peace-> empaty is not gtk?
[10:51] <lady_white> yeah i think
[10:52] <jester-> hi
[10:53] <lady_white> so anyone can help me?
[10:53] <jester-> !english | lady_white
[10:54] <jester-> sorry wron acrtions
[10:54] <jester-> action*
[10:54] <lady_white> i cant connect with my yahoo account in empathy chat
[10:57] <lady_white> ok anyone cant help me....bye
[10:59] <yon> i cant make the pay asshole i am in a third world country
[10:59] <yon> i cant make the pay asshole i am in a third world country
[10:59] <FloodBotK3> yon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:02] <yon> rekonq is so slow
[11:03] <yon> rekonq is so slow
[11:03] <yon> rekonq is so slow
[11:03] <yon> rekonq is so slow
[11:03] <yon> rekonq is so slow
[11:03] <yon> rekonq is so slow
[11:03] <FloodBotK3> yon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <ubuntu> hello
[11:16] <joseluis> hello
[11:16] <joseluis> hi
[11:16] <ubuntu> i'm a newbie here
[11:17] <Peace-> hi...
[11:17] <joseluis> hi Peace
[11:17] <ubuntu> can i ask some question about kubuntu?
[11:17] <ubuntu> hi peace
[11:17] <Peace-> !ask | ubuntu
[11:18] <ubuntu> oke..i see :)
[13:37] <venice_> hi, i'm experiencing unreasonably long boot times on my notebook using kubuntu 11.10 and the system seems to halt for a while before it shows the boot splash (some 20-30 seconds). dmesg-log: http://paste.kde.org/183668/  bootchart:  http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9822/unicornoneiric201201083.png . also the bootchart seems very strange because some process seem to run for ages before something happens.
[13:37] <venice_> (the notebook is a nearly 3 year old dell vostro 1310 so not really any fancy hardware in it :/ )
[13:45] <Peace-> venice_: should be a kernel issue
[13:45] <venice_> :/
[13:45] <venice_> that makes two now :/
[13:45] <venice_> cardreader dead and this one great ^^
[13:45] <Peace-> venice_: report the bug please
[13:46] <Peace-> ubuntu-bug on terminal
[14:00] <venice_> is there a way to add multiple attachments to the bugreport?
[14:00] <venice_> ^^
[14:01] <venice_> or better what should i attach Peace-? the bootchart?
[14:02] <venice_> sorry for asking first time ^^
[14:02] <Peace-> venice_: no just do that . ubuntu-bug
[14:02] <Peace-> venice_: you will lead  step by step
[14:02] <venice_> yeah i did some window popped up and in the end it sent me to launchpad
[14:03] <Peace-> venice_: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-plasma-desktopxh7322
[14:03] <Peace-> venice_: yes .. you need an account...
[14:03] <venice_> i have one
[14:04] <Peace-> venice_: ok login it will attach all the informations
[14:04] <Peace-> venice_: after that... you can describe yur prolbem
[14:04] <Peace-> if you think a screnshot or a picture it could be usefull you can attach them after
[14:04] <venice_> kk
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:25] <lethu> hai BluesKaj
[14:26] <lethu> BluesKaj, go ahead if you have an issue with your system and need help
[14:27] <BluesKaj> hi lethu...fine today , just reverted to 11.10 after having kernel panic and no grub or tty acces on 12.04
[14:28] <lethu> 12.04, is that a testing release BluesKaj?
[14:28] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:28] <Peace-> BluesKaj: yhahaha
[14:28] <Peace-> :P
[14:28]  * Peace- is on 12.04 and it works
[14:29] <lethu> BluesKaj, testing releases' purpose is generally testing, and a bunch of bugs and instability are to be expected
[14:29] <BluesKaj> lethu,  Peace- , yet my other pc , an 6 yr old compaq single core cpu 64 bit pc , didn't have that problem on 12.04 ..go figure :)
[14:30] <Peace->  BluesKaj :)
[14:33] <BluesKaj> Peace-,  which kde are you running?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> what's the word on kde 4.8 with kubuntu 11.10 ?
[14:41] <lethu> BluesKaj, Kde 4.8 currently is at it's second release candidate
[14:41] <lethu> BluesKaj, I heard the release version is set for March
[14:41] <lethu> final*
[14:43] <PaulW2U> lethu: KDE 4.8 is due for release 25 January
[14:44] <lethu> PaulW2U, even better then
[14:44] <lethu> PaulW2U, thanks for correcting me
[14:53] <schnelle> blur effect rocks in kde 4.8 :)
[14:53] <schnelle> i am using oxygen-transparent so everything is blured
[14:54] <schnelle> and my 4 year old laptop with ati 128mb vram graphic work with it very well
[14:54] <schnelle> :)
[15:05] <BluesKaj> schnelle,  ok great , glad to hear , just added the ppa ...I'll soon know how it works on my setup
[15:06] <schnelle> BluesKaj: if you have plasma-widget-icon-tasks installed
[15:06] <schnelle> remove it before upgrade
[15:06] <schnelle> !
[15:06] <schnelle> it will brake upgrade to 4.8 rc2
[15:07] <schnelle> icontasks are now officially part of kde (4.8)
[15:17] <Peace-> BluesKaj: 4.8 rc2
[16:20] <lahwran> how do you set up the gtk/qt theme bridge in kde4 so that gtk apps look like native qt?
[16:22] <Peace-> lahwran: kubuntu has that by default
[16:22] <lahwran> it seems to have been messed up ...
[16:24] <Peace-> lahwran: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-plasma-desktopkz7322
[16:25] <lahwran> alright, thanks
[16:25] <lahwran> I'm attempting to get a windows-to-linux convert to actually /try/ a few desktops before settling on one, not just go "I don't understand this!"
[16:25] <lahwran> he started on xubuntu, I had him install kubuntu-desktop
[16:42] <danilo> hi
[16:45] <lahwran> hi
[17:17]  * BluesKaj nervously awaits the kde 4.8 beta install ...
[17:19] <nikk> high all first time here
[17:19] <nikk> i'm having issues getting kdm to get to my desktop. It loads but then get stuck at the loading screen
[17:20] <nikk> any suggestions ?
[17:25] <anka_> hilfe
[17:27] <arkaddre> I installed both wicd and have set a CIFS share as auto in /etc/fstab but reboots hang for 5 minutes because wicd shuts down before network filesystems are unmounted in /etc/rc6.d
[17:28] <arkaddre> (K20wicd < S31umountnfs.sh)
[17:28] <arkaddre> Two questions: what's the significance, if any, between K and S as prefixes in /etc/rc[1-6].d?
[17:29] <arkaddre> And: I want wicd after umountnfs but before networking in rc6. I could obviously just rename the symlinks as-is but where do they come from?
[17:30] <arkaddre> they're not present in the .deb files for the wicd (or its daemon)
[17:31] <arkaddre> and under what circumstances, if any, will that renaming be disrupted (e.g. by recreating the bad wicd symlink in /etc/rc6.d and ending up with duplicate symlinks) by wicd package updates?
[17:32] <arkaddre> What's happening is reminiscent of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/211631
[18:23] <macman_> hey! how can i prevent kubuntu from hibernating rather than suspend? thanks using desktop
[18:24] <Resistance> macman_:  power settings perhaps?
[18:25] <Resistance> we'd need more context to understand what you want it to do
[18:28] <macman_> well if you leave the machine alone it will hibernate, not uspend, how did i change that? power management seems for laptops thanks
[18:34] <BluesKaj> macman_,  kmenu>computer>systemsettings>power management
[19:03] <Peace-> BluesKaj: hi
[19:04] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i have added  a feature to lprinter-qt , print openoffice stuff
[19:11] <BluesKaj> Peace-,  I don't use OO , and I just install kde 4.8 beta , so I think I'll pass til I'm sure all is well , but thanks anyway :)
[21:08] <george> hello. it seems i've messed my bluetooth packages up. Can anyone tell me which ones are installed by default (Kubuntu 11.10)?
[21:12] <utente> you can look at the history of what you installed.
[21:12] <utente> what do you mean that you messed them up?
[21:14] <qbit> george: I am uncertain which are default as I may have installed something and not noticed, but on my box I have: bluetooth, bluez(amd64), bluez-cups, bluez-tools, libbluetooth3, bluez-alsa(amd64), bluez-gstreamer, and libbluedevil1
[21:15] <george> utente: hello. well, since the 11.10 upgrade, bluetooth stopped working ("adapters not found"). so, i've tried to install some other bluetooth managers, but then i've installed other bluetooth packages and know it doesn't even show on panel... :(
[21:15] <george> qbit: thanks
[21:15] <qbit> I think the bluez ones might be for KDE while there are others I do not have installed which are Gnome
[21:18] <george> hum... it seems i don't have bluez-tools...
[21:22] <george> no, i have them all. i don't get it...
[21:28] <drox> I have a problem with samba, I can not connect with my network HD. My network consists of a modem and a router ip 192.168.1.1 192.168.2.1 HD is connected to the router. Using dolphin and I going to find the network router (Belkin), but does not go and tell me the location smb: / is not valid.
[21:28] <qbit> george: I don't have/use bluetooth on this box but the error suggests no kernel or driver module loading
[21:28] <drox> Another problem is that the apple does not remember his ip: (
[21:28] <george> qbit: is there a way to fix it?
[21:29] <qbit> george: I'd look at lsmod and dmesg and /var/log/messages and look for anything bluetooth relates (error)
[21:30] <george> qbit: lsmod says bluetooth             166112  10 rfcomm,bnep
[21:32] <qbit> my guess is that means the support is there and you wills ee it activate somewhere in dmesg
[21:32] <qbit> but I'm limited in what I can suggest
[21:33] <qbit> but if the underlying support for the hardware is present it reinforces the idea that it's a messed up config problem
[21:33] <BluesKaj> drox check out NAS
[21:34] <qbit> george: with the most likely candidate being /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf
[21:36] <george> qbit:# /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf
[21:36] <george> -bash: /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf: Permission denied
[21:39] <qbit> george: looks like those files are part of the bluez(amd64) package
[21:39] <qbit> if you should decide to delete it as a package for subsequent reinstall, choose the 'purge' option
[21:40] <qbit> using 'purge' should wipe any residual config and allow you to start over from scratch
[21:40] <qbit> other than that I'm about out of ideas
[21:40] <george> qbit: thanks a lot
[21:42] <george> qbit: will check that
[21:43] <drox> BluesKaj: NAS what's it?
[21:44] <BluesKaj> network attached storage
[21:45] <drox> What should I do?
[21:46] <drox> BluesKaj:  What should I do?
[21:47] <BluesKaj> what kind of network drive setup exactly drox
[21:48] <drox> then my HD is connected to the Router (Belkin)
[21:50] <BluesKaj> why connect it to the router , unless it has accessible software to configure it for network use , drox
[21:51] <drox> BluesKaj: Yes, exactly, is a network hd is only by Eth
[21:51] <BluesKaj> drox that is known as NAS , if it's a dedicated drive for network sharing
[21:52] <drox> my hd is westdigital
[21:52] <drox> a MyBookWorld
[21:54] <drox> the strange thing is that before I was using Ubuntu and I recognized it without any problems using samba ... more The problem is that I no longer remember the IP address BluesKaj
[21:56] <hellslinger_> for some reason kde is not turning my screen off even though the power profile is configured correctly and it is set to the profile, is there a daemon that should be running for this to work right?
[21:58] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[21:59] <BluesKaj> drox,  have you tried restarting network interfaces ,  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[21:59] <qbit> hellslinger_: look in systensettings -> startup and shutdown -> service manager for Power management daemon
[22:00] <drox> ok i do and now? do i repaet to search network with dolphin?
[22:01] <hellslinger_> qbit: yeah it is there and checked, can I verify that it is running and didn't crash at launch?
[22:02] <qbit> hellslinger_: I don't have it running on my box here, so not sure what it would look like in ps aux, but yes - if it's running you should see it in ps somewhere
[22:02] <drox> drox@DragonFly:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  * Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces  * Reconfiguring network interfaces... [ OK ]
[22:02] <drox> drox@DragonFly:~$
[22:05] <BluesKaj> drox , have you upgraded ?
[22:06] <qbit> hellslinger_: guess here is the kde power management service depends on upowerd, which should be started at boot and there should be a /usr/lib/upower/upowerd entry in ps for it to attach to
[22:06] <drox> what?
[22:07] <BluesKaj> updated/upgraded any networking apps or kde etc , drox
[22:08] <drox> I installed kubuntu from scratch and just finished 11.10 isntalalto the repo medubuntu I gave a sudo apt-get update & upgrade, but why is?
[22:09] <BluesKaj> so you installed samba too ?
[22:10] <drox> It is not installed by default on kubuntu? BluesKaj
[22:11] <drox> I thought it was seen that the dolphin has built-in key network and works with smb. I have heard bad about it?
[22:11] <BluesKaj> not sure , drox , check by doing sudo apt-get install samba
[22:12] <qbit> unless I'm mistaken Dolphin uses smbclient for smb:/ kio
[22:12] <BluesKaj> drox, I use ssh and NFS ...think I had to install samba after mylast clean OS install
[22:12] <drox> In fact, I assumed wrong, I'm installing the package
[22:18] <drox> but samba does not work reboot and try again now, hello and thank you
[22:22] <BluesKaj> drox,  install netdiscover to find IPs on your LAN , vet handy
[22:22] <BluesKaj> err very
[22:25] <drox> i source IP at hand, and i find it!!! thank
[22:27] <BluesKaj> drox,  working now ?
[22:33] <utente> kubuntu has smb/samba "client" installed by default however the "server" is not.
[22:34] <BluesKaj> utente,  ah , ok thanks
[23:01] <hellslinger_> qbit: I'm looking into this upowerd  issue, what do you mean by an 'entry in ps'?
[23:27] <qbit> hellslinger_: sorry, was out for food
[23:28] <qbit> ps   <- command that lists all running processes
[23:28] <hellslinger_> qbit: no problem, thanks for msging me back
[23:28] <hellslinger_> haha yeah I picked up on that a few minutes later
[23:29] <hellslinger_> I'm getting an error that says 'not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.UPower" due to security policies in the configuration file"
[23:29] <qbit> I think with the switch to udev and upowerd they communicate via dbus if I have it right in my head
[23:29] <qbit> that sounds like a policykit or apparmor deal
[23:32] <qbit> hellslinger_: I recently started using Kubuntu, recently switched away from openSUSE
[23:33] <qbit> hellslinger_: in openSUSE they have a module in Yast for configuring the policies and permissions your error is describing, but haven't learned or found the eqivalent config utility in Kubuntu as of yet
[23:35] <hellslinger> qbit: I'm at a loss, I've never had to deal with either of those things, do you have any advice about how to troubleshoot permissions or config files for those things?
[23:36] <qbit> not really
[23:36] <qbit> but I suspect it has something to do with policykit if I had to take a wild guess
[23:37] <hellslinger> cool, well that's probably a good enough starting point, much appreciated
[23:38] <hellslinger> qbit: does kubuntu work better when unity and gnome have been removed from the system?
[23:38] <qbit> have no idea - I've been a KDE user since KDE 1.45 and have never like Gnome
[23:39] <qbit> even though it is almost truly impossible to have a system which is perfectly clean with only bits from one
[23:39] <hellslinger> haha nice... I do keep coming  back to KDE when I get tired of the inability to configure unity/gnome the way I want
[23:40] <hellslinger> I've had conisderable difficulty with laptop power management and KDE which is what kept me from going all the way
[23:40] <qbit> even though my system is mostly KDE there is still a  few Gnomish support stuff on it
[23:41] <qbit> yeah - I'm not a laptop user so it's of no real importance to me - but if I did use a laptop it would become real important real quick
[23:42] <HearsFred> The last time I used IRC was with mIRC on windows - now I'm trying Konversation on Ubuntu and can't get it to connect to any Undernet servers
[23:43] <HearsFred> I get a "Connection to server (whatever.undernet.org) lost. Unknown error.
[23:43] <HearsFred> Can anyone advise me about what I might try?
[23:43] <hellslinger> I've never used konversation, have you tried quassel?
[23:44] <HearsFred> no, but happy to give it a try
[23:45] <qbit> I use KVirc and even so Undernet can be problematic
[23:46] <qbit> so I set it to retry every 10 minutes until it finally gets in
[23:46] <qbit> every once in a while I can get onto Undernet in one try but mostly not
[23:46] <HearsFred> I understand that undernet servers fill up and I always had some trouble connecting, but the error I get seems to be before any negotiation
[23:47] <qbit> most Undernet servers in the US have DNS A records that don't match their corresponding PTR records
[23:47] <HearsFred> any chance they block Comcast users?
[23:47] <qbit> and my security is set up to refuse connections in such a case
[23:48] <qbit> I use diemen.nl.eu.undernet.org simply because they have good DNS
[23:49] <qbit> I do think they limit connections to a certain size pool for non-.eu people trying to use it
[23:50] <qbit> but even though it was once not the case, for about the last year I've had problems getting connected to Undernet, usually enough retries sooner or later gets me in
[23:50] <HearsFred> I just tried diemen and got the same error immediately
[23:51] <qbit> I'm on diemen right now and have been for a few days
[23:52] <HearsFred> I feel like the error I get (or lack thereof), suggests I'm not having the typical connection problems
[23:52] <HearsFred> what port?
[23:52] <qbit> well, almost anything network related I fire up Wireshark and do a cpature so I can look through it
[23:52] <qbit> 6667
[23:53] <qbit> mostly Wireshark doesn't actually solve anything directly, but it gives me a better view of what's going on
[23:55] <qbit> I have had problems with Undernet where I was getting null-routed by some ISP in Germany, and until they fixed it I was not able to connect
[23:55] <qbit> I have had that happen a few times
[23:55] <qbit> nothing I could do about that
[23:56] <qbit> but if somebody between you and Undernet is messing with your connections, and it could even be Comcast doing it (I doubt Comcast would)h