[00:00] okay [00:00] Thanks for your help [00:00] I am sure that I will eventually find something to get it working :) [00:00] we are almost there [00:01] I assume you have some special keys mapped? [00:01] Yeah [00:05] eaburns, the easiest way to set something to startup is "sudo leafpad /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart" [00:05] that's just completely stupid [00:05] why? it works. [00:06] first sudo and graphical editor [00:06] ? and why not? O_o [00:06] second system wide configuration for a user specific settings [00:06] wait.. what's wrong with the first point? [00:06] !gksudo [00:06] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [00:07] NEVER use sudo leafpad! [00:08] Why is it an issue? [00:08] Well, to be perfectly honest, most of the time it isn't. [00:08] hehe [00:08] Read the link [00:09] that's from the link [00:09] Yeah, and the rest? [00:11] oh, you mean this thing? "Bottom line: most of the time when you use sudo for graphical applications, it's fine. Some of the time, though, it is not fine, and is, in fact, extremely bad. " [00:12] I think leafpad is too simple to do something bad :) [00:12] OK, I got it working [00:12] The trick seems to be that the desktop file doesn't expand ~ [00:12] I changed it to use an absolute path to /home/eaburns/.Xmodmap and it worked just fine [00:13] Thanks for all of the help [00:13] and why can't we have a gui for autostart in Lubuntu? [00:13] Neosano, becouse you have not coded that yet [00:13] Simple, you can use it, just don't recommend it, and don't come here for help if you break something with it :) [00:14] niice [00:14] I had first PAE problem [00:14] maybe I should post to forums [00:16] Wow, must be one old compy [00:16] Stinkpad T42 :D [00:17] it has a pentium m [00:17] Thankfully the P-M I have works [00:21] so [00:21] what next :D [00:22] Debian :P [00:22] Or in your case, arch [00:22] But, offtopic time [00:37] Good day all. [00:37] I don't have sound on my pidgin. Anyone know why? [00:38] Well, better this way: is there a way to get sound on pidgin with Lubuntu? [00:40] nullaresnata: tools --> Preferences --> Sound ? [00:41] I have mine all disabled. [00:41] Done that already - still mute. [00:42] nullaresnata: if you send me an email to phillw@ubuntu.com reminding me, I'll have a play with it tomorrow for you. I'm just about off to bed! [00:43] nullaresnata: Sound works otherwise? [00:53] correct sound theme?-) [00:53] I've seen that happening [00:53] Found a way. :) [00:54] Chose the method by command and directed the sound through aplay. [00:54] Donw. [00:54] *done [00:54] Thanks anyway, you pointed out in the right direction. [00:54] nullaresnata: good to hear... one less task for me :) [00:54] Great! Glad you got it fixed [00:55] nullaresnata: So this makes sound ;) === robotman is now known as AlexAv [08:21] LubuntuPowered: hi! :p === smile is now known as nieuwenickname === nieuwenickname is now known as smile [15:51] For a small CLI utility, which is preferable for install: apt-get? or Synaptic Package Mgr? Or does it matter? [15:54] Synaptic is NOT CLI, david_j_r [15:54] small...well, go with apt-get (but it really depends on what you want)... [15:54] yes - understood - but I can get a prog that IS used only on CLI - [15:54] sorry if that was confusing! [15:54] apt-get is CLI, aptitude is CUI/TUI, synaptic is GUI [15:54] hashalot is the prog in question [15:55] I can install it either from apt-get, or get it from Synaptic [15:55] yes. you can install it using both... [15:55] and no difference doing so? [15:55] e.g., when it comes to upgrades? [15:56] No difference. [15:56] thanks! [15:56] I'm hazy on what happens with those modes of installation -- as you can see! [15:57] I'll just go for apt-get, then, with terminal already running. [15:57] Both are same. Synaptic is ALTERNATIVE graphical interface to apt-get. [15:58] Right! That's the missing link for me. Sometimes the simple things are the hardest to find out. ;) [15:58] Thanks again. [15:59] No problems :) [18:03] is there an lxde user available here ? [18:03] kop: feel free and just ask away! [18:04] one would hope so kop :) [18:04] base install of 10.04 lubuntu w/nvidia driver/kernel [18:04] after enabling the second screen the menu fonts are so small that they can not be read with a magnifying glass [18:05] I don't have enough experience with the menu to know where the look and feel tab is [18:05] until I get a command line option or someone that regularly uses the desktop can point me to the right selections this desktop is useless [18:07] kop: use 11.10 instead. :) [18:07] well, you can go back to one screen, and poke around in the GUI for a bit... but... [18:09] kop, is there a reason to use 10.04? [18:09] smile, not an option snd_oss module is deprecated past 10.10 [18:09] there we go [18:09] kop: why you want oss? :) [18:10] just don't get me started on PA [18:10] kop: try it live though... alsa only is likely what you want [18:11] doesn't work live as the module isn't in the L'ubuntu kernel options [18:12] maybe theres a backport... or another kernel option [18:12] what I need is how to get to look and feel through a gui whose fonts have been reduced to less than 1/32" [18:13] anyways... you should be able to do either... use that sound device without pulse in 11.10, or change the fonlt size [18:13] font* [18:13] emu10k1x [18:13] get used to it I jus thin I cn tpye [18:15] and just before anyone suspects I'm "new" I've had my login here since "openprojects" [18:15] so where is look and feel located on a default install ? [18:18] this will have to be ~start > how many up > how many up> and fortunately I have a screen shot of the look and feel dialog box [18:18] krap I have a .18 dpi monitor and the fonts arn't big enough to read [18:37] MrChrisDruif: hoi! :) [18:45] so where is look and feel located on a default install ? [18:46] Thanks kop [18:46] I'll need nearly braille instructions because the fonts are unreadable [18:46] According to http://lxde.org/lxappearance_change_look_feel the app should be lxappearance [18:48] I've seen the dialog box in screen shots but lxappearance doesn't resemble it at all [18:48] Can you make a printscreen of it? [18:48] http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DQA25fY03Tk/Tkbk2dPqgVI/AAAAAAAABiQ/yB4bBUBkWbk/s1600/Screenshot-2.png [18:49] actually no as it's on an unusable desktop [18:49] the fonts are less than 1/32" tall [18:50] The PrtSc button doesn't work? [18:50] sure but I can't log in to anything I can't see [18:51] not been able to set up xchat etc [18:52] after enabling the second screen the menu fonts are so small that they can not be read with a magnifying glass [18:52] am I making any sense ? [18:53] imagine trying to read 4pt font on a 1024x768 screen [18:53] * MrChrisDruif is having dinner while helping you [18:54] appreciated [18:55] Alright, but the window is looking kinda similar to the link you send me? [18:56] no I cant get there from here [18:56] need directions [18:57] Does the terminal open when you press Ctrl+Alt+T? [18:57] start > settings ? (I can see that one ) > how many from the top or bottom .... [18:58] yes but nothing in the lxappearance resembles the .png I posted :-/ [18:58] am I wrong ver , release ? [18:58] <----lost [18:59] which version of Lubuntu are you running? [19:00] * kop is wishing for a command line option for ssh [19:00] 10.04 [19:00] What about switching to a TTY? [19:00] need kernel modules that arn't included in 10.10 on [19:01] !TTY [19:01] To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution. [19:01] And Unit193; that'll probably won't work because lxappearance is a graphical app? [19:02] MrChrisDruif: It won't show up there, no. You can either fix it CLI style, or DISPLAY=:0 lxappearance (Should pick it up) [19:03] Does "lxappearance &" open the lxappearance app? [19:03] That might be a useful command [19:04] kop; ^ [19:06] kop; you still with us? [19:06] it does but dia'g box fonts are as the rest [19:07] <---- the day interrupts here also [19:09] What is the path used in this distribution for storing game data files? e.g. for gentoo linux each game has its own directory in /usr/share/games/. I'm collecting notes for each distro so that I can collect a list of all possible paths to make sure to look in each of them for a particular game. [19:11] icanhasdearia; try searching that folder (aka I don't know) [19:11] icanhasdearia: Depends on the game, but assault cube has them in ~/.assaultcube_v1.04/ for example [19:12] kop; so lxappearance is open now? [19:12] Alright, maybe they all store them in ~/ ? [19:12] As hidden folders? [19:12] bye :) [19:13] MrChrisDruif: Aye [19:13] Unit193; where are the settings saved from lxappearance? Maybe it's easier to just open that file with nano and edit it? [19:14] games installed from repos are in /usr/share/games too [19:14] Unit193; is it on lubuntu-rc.xml? [19:15] and those, which are not installed from deb - in home, as hidden ;) [19:15] in my case [19:16] psesq: Data files [19:16] * MrChrisDruif isn't on Lubuntu to test [19:17] MrChrisDruif: It's got fonts in there,a ye [19:18] anyway, i don't think it depends on distro, but game? [19:19] I've found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/install-lubuntu-software-center.html but I'm on Lucid and it doesnt' seem to be working. Is there a way to install the software center on lububtu lucid? [19:19] Unit193; http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=73909.0 [19:20] The software center isn't ready anyway [19:20] MrChrisDruif: On that page, just haven't read it [19:20] pat; you'd need to download the source files and compile it yourself. It isn't without reason that it isn't available for ALL Lubuntu versions [19:21] Bah. I'm looking for an easy way mymother can install software. You can browse by category in the sofwre center, unless there's a way to do it in synaptics GUI too [19:22] pat; in the tree on the left side you can also scroll categories [19:22] Not as intuitive like LSC or USC etc... [19:22] * MrChrisDruif doesn't know if you can hide technical packages in Synaptic [19:24] I'll just NOT tell her how to do it and punch a hole through her firewall instead so I can get in and do it. [19:24] Thanks folks. [19:25] pangolin; [19:25] <_<" [19:25] Dang... [19:25] Just use SSH keys I wanted to say [19:26] * MrChrisDruif is off again [19:26] +screen [19:26] Sorry kop, but I've got to do some stuff [19:29] MrChrisDruif, I'll get there somehow and screenshot , dia some wtf to the forum as well as links here [19:38] way kewl [19:39] have all but the main menu fonts to 32pt [19:39] now for the menu ... [19:39] any ideas [19:39] * kop googles futility [19:54] ok down to one final adjustment [19:54] font size in the main menu ..... [20:21] Anyone have any experience with xfce-screenshooter in Lubuntu? [20:22] Or any screenshot utility in Lubuntu, for that matter? [20:23] scrot is the default [20:23] corvus_, Print Screen key saves to ~/ [20:24] scrot is terminal based, yes? [20:24] Yep (and read what Amber said) [20:25] All right, I will check. Thanks. [20:25] yes, but it is bind to "Print Screen" key in Lubuntu. [20:26] Tried taking a screenshot of my desktop. Couldn't find the image in ~/ [20:33] ? [20:39] Ah...he left. I got disconnected :( [20:39] Hi, I have a problem on Lubuntu 11.10. My wifi pcmcia card Netgear WG511v3 work fine with the 3.0.0.12 kernel, but not recognise with 3.0.0.14. [20:40] http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-105726 At the begginning it's when it work. After line 304 when it's bad. [20:42] If someone have heard about this. === T44 is now known as Topy44 [21:32] pangolin, [21:32] have you seen here much problems? [21:33] I haven't [21:56] clache, are you now using 3.0.0.12? [21:57] Yes now, i'm on 3.0.0.12 [21:59] you should probably report a bug against kernel 3.0.0.14 that the driver is missing or something like that [22:00] best way to make kernel team to be sure that they forgot to include something in there ;) [22:02] Ok, i'm a beginner, i'm looking for that [22:02] launchpad.net is the place for bug tracking [22:02] and lots of other things [22:03] Yes, I known, For doing a good report, i'm going ask help in my language.