[00:00] <bioterror> okay
[00:00] <eaburns> Thanks for your help
[00:00] <eaburns> I am sure that I will eventually find something to get it working :)
[00:00] <bioterror> we are almost there
[00:01] <bioterror> I assume you have some special keys mapped?
[00:01] <eaburns> Yeah
[00:05] <Neosano> eaburns, the easiest way to set something to startup is "sudo leafpad /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart"
[00:05] <bioterror> that's just completely stupid
[00:05] <Neosano> why? it works.
[00:06] <bioterror> first sudo and graphical editor
[00:06] <Neosano> ? and why not? O_o
[00:06] <bioterror> second system wide configuration for a user specific settings
[00:06] <Neosano> wait.. what's wrong with the first point?
[00:06] <Unit193> !gksudo
[00:07] <Unit193> NEVER use sudo leafpad!
[00:08] <Neosano> Why is it an issue?
[00:08] <Neosano> Well, to be perfectly honest, most of the time it isn't.
[00:08] <Neosano> hehe
[00:08] <Unit193> Read the link
[00:09] <Neosano> that's from the link
[00:09] <Unit193> Yeah, and the rest?
[00:11] <Neosano> oh, you mean this thing? "Bottom line: most of the time when you use sudo for graphical applications, it's fine. Some of the time, though, it is not fine, and is, in fact, extremely bad. "
[00:12] <Neosano> I think leafpad is too simple to do something bad :)
[00:12] <eaburns> OK, I got it working
[00:12] <eaburns> The trick seems to be that the desktop file doesn't expand ~
[00:12] <eaburns> I changed it to use an absolute path to /home/eaburns/.Xmodmap and it worked just fine
[00:13] <eaburns> Thanks for all of the help
[00:13] <Neosano> and why can't we have a gui for autostart in Lubuntu?
[00:13] <bioterror> Neosano, becouse you have not coded that yet
[00:13] <Unit193> Simple, you can use it, just don't recommend it, and don't come here for help if you break something with it :)
[00:14] <bioterror> niice
[00:14] <bioterror> I had first PAE problem
[00:14] <bioterror> maybe I should post to forums
[00:16] <Unit193> Wow, must be one old compy
[00:16] <bioterror> Stinkpad T42 :D
[00:17] <bioterror> it has a pentium m
[00:17] <Unit193> Thankfully the P-M I have works
[00:21] <bioterror> so
[00:21] <bioterror> what next :D
[00:22] <Unit193> Debian :P
[00:22] <Unit193> Or in your case, arch
[00:22] <Unit193> But, offtopic time
[00:37] <nullaresnata> Good day all.
[00:37] <nullaresnata> I don't have sound on my pidgin. Anyone know why?
[00:38] <nullaresnata> Well, better this way: is there a way to get sound on pidgin with Lubuntu?
[00:40] <phillw> nullaresnata: tools --> Preferences --> Sound ?
[00:41] <phillw> I have mine all disabled.
[00:41] <nullaresnata> Done that already - still mute.
[00:42] <phillw> nullaresnata: if you send me an email to phillw@ubuntu.com reminding me, I'll have a play with it tomorrow for you. I'm just about off to bed!
[00:43] <Unit193> nullaresnata: Sound works otherwise?
[00:53] <bioterror> correct sound theme?-)
[00:53] <bioterror> I've seen that happening
[00:53] <nullaresnata> Found a way. :)
[00:54] <nullaresnata> Chose the method by command and directed the sound through aplay.
[00:54] <nullaresnata> Donw.
[00:54] <nullaresnata> *done
[00:54] <nullaresnata> Thanks anyway, you pointed out in the right direction.
[00:54] <phillw> nullaresnata: good to hear... one less task for me :)
[00:54] <Unit193> Great! Glad you got it fixed
[00:55] <Unit193> nullaresnata: So this makes sound ;)
[08:21] <smile> LubuntuPowered: hi! :p
[15:51] <david_j_r> For a small CLI utility, which is preferable for install: apt-get? or Synaptic Package Mgr? Or does it matter?
[15:54] <AmberJ> Synaptic is NOT CLI, david_j_r
[15:54] <AmberJ> small...well, go with apt-get (but it really depends on what you want)...
[15:54] <david_j_r> yes - understood - but I can get a prog that IS used only on CLI -
[15:54] <david_j_r> sorry if that was confusing!
[15:54] <AmberJ> apt-get is CLI, aptitude is CUI/TUI, synaptic is GUI
[15:54] <david_j_r> hashalot is the prog in question
[15:55] <david_j_r> I can install it either from apt-get, or get it from Synaptic
[15:55] <AmberJ> yes. you can install it using both...
[15:55] <david_j_r> and no difference doing so?
[15:55] <david_j_r> e.g., when it comes to upgrades?
[15:56] <AmberJ> No difference.
[15:56] <david_j_r> thanks!
[15:56] <david_j_r> I'm hazy on what happens with those modes of installation -- as you can see!
[15:57] <david_j_r> I'll just go for apt-get, then, with terminal already running.
[15:57] <AmberJ> Both are same. Synaptic is ALTERNATIVE graphical interface to apt-get.
[15:58] <david_j_r> Right! That's the missing link for me. Sometimes the simple things are the hardest to find out. ;)
[15:58] <david_j_r> Thanks again.
[15:59] <AmberJ> No problems :)
[18:03] <kop> is there an lxde user available here ?
[18:03] <holstein> kop: feel free and just ask away!
[18:04] <nothingspecial> one would hope so kop :)
[18:04] <kop> base install of 10.04 lubuntu w/nvidia driver/kernel
[18:04] <kop> after enabling the second screen the menu fonts are so small that they can not be read with a magnifying glass
[18:05] <kop> I don't have enough experience with the menu to know where the look and feel tab is
[18:05] <kop> until I get a command line option or someone that regularly uses the desktop can point me to the right selections this desktop is useless
[18:07] <smile> kop: use 11.10 instead. :)
[18:07] <holstein> well, you can go back to one screen, and poke around in the GUI for a bit... but...
[18:09] <bioterror> kop, is there a reason to use 10.04?
[18:09] <kop> smile, not an option snd_oss module is deprecated past 10.10
[18:09] <bioterror> there we go
[18:09] <smile> kop: why you want oss? :)
[18:10] <kop> just don't get me started on PA
[18:10] <holstein> kop: try it live though... alsa only is likely what you want
[18:11] <kop> doesn't work live as the module isn't in the L'ubuntu kernel options
[18:12] <holstein> maybe theres a backport... or another kernel option
[18:12] <kop> what I need is how to get to look and feel through a gui whose fonts have been reduced to less than 1/32"
[18:13] <holstein> anyways... you should be able to do either... use that sound device without pulse in 11.10, or change the fonlt size
[18:13] <holstein> font*
[18:13] <kop> emu10k1x
[18:13] <kop> get used to it I jus thin I cn tpye
[18:15] <kop> and just before anyone suspects I'm "new" I've had my login here since "openprojects"
[18:15] <kop> so where is look and feel located on a default install ?
[18:18] <kop> this will have to be ~start > how many up > how many up> and fortunately I have a screen shot of the look and feel dialog box
[18:18] <kop> krap I have a .18 dpi monitor and the fonts arn't big enough to read
[18:37] <smile> MrChrisDruif: hoi! :)
[18:45] <kop> so where is look and feel located on a default install ?
[18:46] <MrChrisDruif> Thanks kop
[18:46] <kop> I'll need nearly braille instructions because the fonts are unreadable
[18:46] <MrChrisDruif> According to http://lxde.org/lxappearance_change_look_feel the app should be lxappearance
[18:48] <kop> I've seen the dialog box in screen shots but lxappearance doesn't resemble it at all
[18:48] <MrChrisDruif> Can you make a printscreen of it?
[18:48] <kop> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DQA25fY03Tk/Tkbk2dPqgVI/AAAAAAAABiQ/yB4bBUBkWbk/s1600/Screenshot-2.png
[18:49] <kop> actually no as it's on an unusable desktop
[18:49] <kop> the fonts are less than 1/32" tall
[18:50] <MrChrisDruif> The PrtSc button doesn't work?
[18:50] <kop> sure but I can't log in to anything I can't see
[18:51] <kop> not been able to set up xchat etc
[18:52] <kop> after enabling the second screen the menu fonts are so small that they can not be read with a magnifying glass
[18:52] <kop> am I making any sense ?
[18:53] <kop> imagine trying to read 4pt font on a 1024x768 screen
[18:53]  * MrChrisDruif is having dinner while helping you
[18:54] <kop> appreciated
[18:55] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, but the window is looking kinda similar to the link you send me?
[18:56] <kop> no I cant get there from here
[18:56] <kop> need directions
[18:57] <MrChrisDruif> Does the terminal open when you press Ctrl+Alt+T?
[18:57] <kop> start > settings ? (I can see that one ) > how many from the top or bottom ....
[18:58] <kop> yes but nothing in the lxappearance resembles the .png I posted :-/
[18:58] <kop> am I wrong ver , release ?
[18:58] <kop> <----lost
[18:59] <MrChrisDruif> which version of Lubuntu are you running?
[19:00]  * kop is wishing for a command line option for ssh 
[19:00] <kop> 10.04
[19:00] <Unit193> What about switching to a TTY?
[19:00] <kop> need kernel modules that arn't included in 10.10 on
[19:01] <MrChrisDruif> !TTY
[19:01] <MrChrisDruif> And Unit193; that'll probably won't work because lxappearance is a graphical app?
[19:02] <Unit193> MrChrisDruif: It won't show up there, no. You can either fix it CLI style, or  DISPLAY=:0 lxappearance  (Should pick it up)
[19:03] <MrChrisDruif> Does "lxappearance &" open the lxappearance app?
[19:03] <MrChrisDruif> That might be a useful command
[19:04] <MrChrisDruif> kop; ^
[19:06] <MrChrisDruif> kop; you still with us?
[19:06] <kop> it does but dia'g box fonts are as the rest
[19:07] <kop> <---- the day interrupts here also
[19:09] <icanhasdearia> What is the path used in this distribution for storing game data files?  e.g. for gentoo linux each game has its own directory in /usr/share/games/.  I'm collecting notes for each distro so that I can collect a list of all possible paths to make sure to look in each of them for a particular game.
[19:11] <MrChrisDruif> icanhasdearia; try searching that folder (aka I don't know)
[19:11] <Unit193> icanhasdearia: Depends on the game, but assault cube has them in ~/.assaultcube_v1.04/ for example
[19:12] <MrChrisDruif> kop; so lxappearance is open now?
[19:12] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, maybe they all store them in ~/ ?
[19:12] <MrChrisDruif> As hidden folders?
[19:12] <smile> bye :)
[19:13] <Unit193> MrChrisDruif: Aye
[19:13] <MrChrisDruif> Unit193; where are the settings saved from lxappearance? Maybe it's easier to just open that file with nano and edit it?
[19:14] <psesq> games installed from repos are in /usr/share/games too
[19:14] <MrChrisDruif> Unit193; is it on lubuntu-rc.xml?
[19:15] <psesq> and those, which are not installed from deb - in home, as hidden ;)
[19:15] <psesq> in my case
[19:16] <Unit193> psesq: Data files
[19:16]  * MrChrisDruif isn't on Lubuntu to test
[19:17] <Unit193> MrChrisDruif: It's got fonts in there,a ye
[19:18] <psesq> anyway, i don't think it depends on distro, but game?
[19:19] <pat> I've found this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/install-lubuntu-software-center.html  but I'm on Lucid and it doesnt' seem to be working.  Is there a way to install the software center on lububtu lucid?
[19:19] <MrChrisDruif> Unit193; http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=73909.0
[19:20] <Unit193> The software center isn't ready anyway
[19:20] <Unit193> MrChrisDruif: On that page, just haven't read it
[19:20] <MrChrisDruif> pat; you'd need to download the source files and compile it yourself. It isn't without reason that it isn't available for ALL Lubuntu versions
[19:21] <pat> Bah.  I'm looking for an easy way mymother can install software.  You can browse by category in the sofwre center, unless there's a way to do it in synaptics GUI too
[19:22] <MrChrisDruif> pat; in the tree on the left side you can also scroll categories
[19:22] <MrChrisDruif> Not as intuitive like LSC or USC etc...
[19:22]  * MrChrisDruif doesn't know if you can hide technical packages in Synaptic
[19:24] <pat> I'll just NOT tell her how to do it and punch a hole through her firewall instead so I can get in and do it.
[19:24] <pat> Thanks folks.
[19:25] <MrChrisDruif> pangolin;
[19:25] <MrChrisDruif> <_<"
[19:25] <MrChrisDruif> Dang...
[19:25] <MrChrisDruif> Just use SSH keys I wanted to say
[19:26]  * MrChrisDruif is off again
[19:26] <Unit193> +screen
[19:26] <MrChrisDruif> Sorry kop, but I've got to do some stuff
[19:29] <kop> MrChrisDruif,  I'll get there somehow and screenshot , dia some wtf to the forum as well as links here
[19:38] <kop> way kewl
[19:39] <kop> have all but the main menu  fonts to 32pt
[19:39] <kop> now for the menu ...
[19:39] <kop> any ideas
[19:39]  * kop googles futility 
[19:54] <kop> ok down to one final adjustment
[19:54] <kop> font size in the main menu .....
[20:21] <corvus_> Anyone have any experience with xfce-screenshooter in Lubuntu?
[20:22] <corvus_> Or any screenshot utility in Lubuntu, for that matter?
[20:23] <Unit193> scrot is the default
[20:23] <AmberJ> corvus_, Print Screen key saves to ~/
[20:24] <corvus_> scrot is terminal based, yes?
[20:24] <Unit193> Yep (and read what Amber said)
[20:25] <corvus_> All right, I will check. Thanks.
[20:25] <AmberJ> yes, but it is bind to "Print Screen" key in Lubuntu.
[20:26] <corvus_> Tried taking a screenshot of my desktop. Couldn't find the image in ~/
[20:33] <corvus_> ?
[20:39] <AmberJ> Ah...he left. I got disconnected :(
[20:39] <clache> Hi, I have a problem on Lubuntu 11.10. My wifi pcmcia card Netgear WG511v3 work fine with the 3.0.0.12 kernel, but not recognise with 3.0.0.14.
[20:40] <clache> http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-105726 At the begginning it's when it work. After line 304 when it's bad.
[20:42] <clache> If someone have heard about this.
[21:32] <bioterror> pangolin,
[21:32] <bioterror> have you seen here much problems?
[21:33] <pangolin> I haven't
[21:56] <bioterror> clache, are you now using 3.0.0.12?
[21:57] <clache> Yes now, i'm on 3.0.0.12
[21:59] <bioterror> you should probably report a bug against kernel 3.0.0.14 that the driver is missing or something like that
[22:00] <bioterror> best way to make kernel team to be sure that they forgot to include something in there ;)
[22:02] <clache> Ok, i'm a beginner, i'm looking for that
[22:02] <bioterror> launchpad.net is the place for bug tracking
[22:02] <bioterror> and lots of other things
[22:03] <clache> Yes, I known, For doing a good report, i'm going ask help in my language.