[01:53] <nigelb> mhall119: aha, thanks.
[02:05] <cprofitt> hey guys
[02:06] <nigelb> hey cprofitt
[02:06] <nigelb> cprofitt: Did you finish your summit setup?
[02:06] <cprofitt> No.
[02:07] <cprofitt> I have not done anything since I sent you the email with the error messages
[02:07] <nigelb> Aha. Let me read that error first :-)
[02:07] <nigelb> With my bandwidth back then, I couldn't.
[02:08] <cprofitt> I know... I was in no hurry
[02:08] <cprofitt> I won't have time to touch it until Monday ... so no rush now either
[02:10] <nigelb> aha, ok
[02:16] <cprofitt> we will get to it... no worries
[02:20] <cprofitt> night all -- gotta run... the tomorrow will be out of town
[02:23] <doctormon> I just got a donated google mini server, does anyone know how to switch them on?
[03:03] <mhall119> doctormon: have you tried googling it?
[03:03] <mhall119> (sorry, couldn't resist)
[03:03] <marcoceppi> Sounds like it's already been google'd
[03:04] <pangolin> from what I can find it just needs to be plugged into power outlet
[03:05] <pangolin> hmm wait, apparently it should have a power button
[03:06] <nigelb> Irony detected.
[03:07] <pangolin> from me? usually i would agree but not this time
[03:07] <nigelb> heh
[03:08] <pangolin> The search appliance typically takes approximately 10 minutes to load the software, but the process can take up to 20 minutes. The Google Mini plays a melody when the software is fully loaded. If a monitor is directly attached to the search appliance, you see a message on the monitor indicating that the start-up process is complete.
[10:53] <bkerensa> Goodnight Folks!
[18:00] <doctormon> pangolin: Yeah I've taken the thing apart, (drilling lots of rivets out) and looked inside. The power switch is there under the front case section but the machine is unresponsive. Suspect broken hardware.
[18:01] <doctormon> I used the motherboard manual to directly short the on button pins, it's certainly got some power as the ethernet lights up.
[18:01] <doctormon> Thanks for your help pangolin
[22:28] <bkerensa> What if every Ubuntu LoCo worldwide could distribute 2,012 Ubuntu 12.04 CD's in 2012? I think it is possible!
[22:29] <AlanBell> I don't :)
[22:29]  * bkerensa did the math and it would cost roughly require each LoCo to crowd source $700 to buy materials and make Origami sleeves :)
[22:29] <bkerensa> AlanBell: :P
[22:31] <pangolin> don't loco's get cd's from canonical?
[22:31] <cjohnston> pangolin: approved LoCos do
[22:31] <AlanBell> approved ones get 250
[22:33] <bkerensa> 250 is not much though... that could be given out in a single event
[22:34] <bkerensa> its great Canonical gives them out though since some distros dont have that luxury
[22:35] <pangolin> I think it would be very hard for many of the locos to find $700
[22:35] <bkerensa> really?
[22:35] <pangolin> yes.
[22:35] <bkerensa> If my loco can raise $600 through crowd sourcing I would have no problem paying $100 out of pocket myself
[22:36] <bkerensa> Notably also.... starting in the next month or two I will have a neverending supply of Ubuntu CD's but I do have to go pick them up and store them somewhere
[22:36] <pleia2> bkerensa: being able to crowd source monetary funds is a skill that most people don't have (or are necessarily interested in having)
[22:36] <pangolin> how's that?
[22:36] <bkerensa> FreeGeek has to test cd and dvd burners so they are going to be making hundreds of burns per month
[22:36] <bkerensa> :D
[22:36] <bkerensa> and have offered to burn whatever we want on them :)
[22:37] <pangolin> cool
[22:37]  * bkerensa plans to ship to California and Washington when they get around to it :)
[22:37] <AlanBell> that is nice!
[22:37] <bkerensa> Parcel Rate of course :P
[22:37] <pangolin> I see a potential source for other locos to get free cd's
[22:37] <pleia2> it's also not quite so easy in some countries where the materials are more expensive, culturally raising money is more difficult, there are legal limitations financially on what non-incorporated clubs can do money-wise
[22:37] <bkerensa> true
[22:38] <AlanBell> distribution opportunities is a bigger problem for us
[22:39] <bkerensa> yeah
[22:40] <AlanBell> I set up http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/ and we promote it a bit, but I get more emails about it from india than the UK
[22:40] <bkerensa> heh
[22:40] <bkerensa> :D
[22:40] <bkerensa> We gave almost a hundred CD's out in 4 hours at a single event
[22:40] <bkerensa> :(
[22:40] <AlanBell> we have a few people who distribute them at computer fairs, but the demand here is low because all geeks have broadband
[22:40] <AlanBell> getting them out to non-geeks is a distribution challenge
[22:40] <bkerensa> yeah
[22:41] <bkerensa> especially when they dont know what Linux is :P
[22:41] <pangolin> I have a cd to my ISP tech dude the other day hehe
[22:42] <pangolin> gave*
[22:42] <bkerensa> Ubuntu Oregon will be hosting a GeekNic right around the week of OSCON so hopefully we can get some non-geeks to come for some free food and send them home with Ubuntu :)
[22:42] <AlanBell> anyhow, 2012 CDs would be very hard for us, but money isn't the issue
[22:42] <pangolin> he sat at my desk and was like, umm what is this K in the bottom left corner?
[22:42] <bkerensa> :P
[22:42] <bkerensa> You gave him Kubuntu?  :P
[22:42] <pleia2> pangolin: I think something was wrong with your Ubuntu CD :)
[22:42] <pangolin> I gave him ubuntu 10.04
[22:42] <bkerensa> heh
[22:43] <pleia2> ah
[22:43] <AlanBell> I have had no complaints from my chickens about kubuntu
[22:43] <bkerensa> One thing I also have thought of is asking local libraries to allow us to set 10 CD's on one of their brochure tables
[22:43] <bkerensa> but I'm concerned that the ratio of those CD's being used would be low versus turned into frisbees
[22:44] <pleia2> that's one of the suggestions akgraner makes here: http://ubuntu-us.org/2009/12/06/what-individuals-can-do-for-their-loco-team/
[22:44] <pleia2> fliers too
[22:44] <pangolin> magicfab got his local library to allow him to give OSS/Ubuntu presentations, they didn't charge for the space either.
[22:45] <bkerensa> I think FreeGeek may stop shipping Ubuntu before 12.04 :( which is sad because I still think they get Ubuntu into more peoples hands then most sources in the U.S.
[22:45] <bkerensa> pangolin: Yeah our LoCo will start doing a Ubuntu Hour at the Salem Library and also some clinics
[22:45] <bkerensa> for the rural folks :)
[22:46] <pangolin> he also hosts and ubuntu hour separate from the presentations.
[22:46] <pangolin> I haven't been in a few months :/
[22:46] <pleia2> slacker
[22:46] <pangolin> I really should go have lunch with him soon
[22:46] <bkerensa> heh
[22:47] <pangolin> it's his turn to buy too
[22:47] <pangolin> lol
[22:47] <bkerensa> I wish I could get to every FOSS thing going on but it is utterly impossible
[22:47] <pangolin> pleia2: y u mean 2 me
[22:47] <pleia2> pangolin: <3
[22:47] <pangolin> :-)
[22:47]  * pangolin hugs pleia2 
[22:49]  * pleia2 hugs
[22:51] <pangolin> 42 Mississippi, 43 Mississippi....
[23:11] <pleia2> AlanBell: where are we with the planet cleanup?
[23:12] <AlanBell> um, ball back in your court I think
[23:12] <AlanBell> though I may not have let you know about that
[23:12] <pleia2> ok
[23:13] <AlanBell> at the top of the config file there is a section of candidates for removal
[23:13] <AlanBell> someone was going to blog about the cleanup and let people come forward and claim any unclaimed blogs or something
[23:13] <nigelb> I'm so glad AlanBell picked up from me.
[23:13] <bkerensa> :D
[23:14] <nigelb> I'm starting the day awfully early today.
[23:14] <pleia2> AlanBell: did you actually sync up given nicks with proper launchpad nicks?
[23:14] <AlanBell> yes
[23:14] <pleia2> ok, excellent
[23:14] <nigelb> that is the single most painful thing.
[23:14] <nigelb> I hope my script helped :-)
[23:14] <AlanBell> I did some grepping and spreadsheeting
[23:15] <nigelb> heh
[23:15] <pleia2> dholbach, Milo and I ended up doing eyeball review and associations
[23:15] <nigelb> :)
[23:15] <pleia2> AlanBell: I'll check it out and have a look this week and reply to the open thread on the list then, would you care to blog about it since you started the process?
[23:16] <AlanBell> nope!
[23:16] <pleia2> I would, but I just told the world we're closing mailing lists, removing people form planet too, phew, I'm not popey!
[23:16] <AlanBell> that was the only thing we agreed, that it wouldn't be me
[23:16] <pleia2> ah ok
[23:16] <nigelb> need help there?
[23:16] <nigelb> I blogged about it once, I don't mind doing it again.
[23:16] <AlanBell> sabdfl agreed it would be someone on the CC to do that
[23:16] <nigelb> aha, that's fine then.
[23:16] <pleia2> ok, I'll make akgraner do it then :)
[23:16] <bkerensa> lol
[23:16] <AlanBell> ideal
[23:17] <nigelb> Usually, I'd nominate popey for something lik this :P
[23:17] <popey> \o/
[23:17] <mhall119> shut it down!
[23:17] <bkerensa> Should blog.... Due to the non-recovering economy Canonical has decided to shutter Planet
[23:17] <AlanBell> pleia2: we have bug 913541 to deal with :)
[23:17] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 913541 in ubuntu-community "there are a number of people with Ubuntu IRC cloaks who have expired from the ubuntumembers group" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/913541
[23:18] <pleia2> AlanBell: yeah, that's what reminded me about planet
[23:18] <nigelb> I thought IRCC had scripts to deal with that.
[23:18] <AlanBell> they do
[23:18] <AlanBell> and today I ran it
[23:18] <pleia2> scripts to identify
[23:18] <nigelb> ah
[23:19] <nigelb> the uncloaking is still manual because gms isn't ready.
[23:19] <AlanBell> it would be manual anyway really
[23:19] <AlanBell> we will just try not to have a backlog
[23:19]  * popey thinks canonical have somewhat taken over budepest
[23:19] <nigelb> heh
[23:20] <nigelb> I thought we did that once in May :p
[23:20] <pleia2> I'm still sad about not staying longer and going to the budapest zoo
[23:20] <nigelb> pleia2: I'm sad about turning back from the gate.
[23:20] <mhall119> bkerensa: if you're going to go with that, the shutdown should be scheduled for Dec. 21, 2012
[23:20] <pleia2> I have since learned that it was really worth seeing
[23:20] <nigelb> Also, about not going out late to see the bridges in the dark.
[23:21] <bkerensa> :D
[23:21] <pleia2> nigelb: aw, yeah, they were beautiful!
[23:21] <mhall119> nigelb: yeah, you missed out on that one
[23:21] <nigelb> but hey, I saw the awesome countryside..when I got lost.. twice.
[23:21] <pleia2> bkerensa: why aren't you doing a User Days session on Saturday, busy?
[23:21] <pleia2> nigelb: we are running out of time, 4 slots to fill!
[23:21] <nigelb> zomg
[23:22] <nigelb> mhall119: why aren't you doing a session this time? :D
[23:23] <bkerensa> pleia2: Honestly... Because you guys schedule everything epic early :)
[23:23] <bkerensa> what is it like 7am PST?
[23:23] <bkerensa> :D
[23:23] <pleia2> lol
[23:23] <pleia2> we don't schedule it early, Oregon just lives too far in the past
[23:24] <bkerensa> sabdfl did his q&a so early in the morning :(
[23:24] <bkerensa> I was like forget this
[23:24] <pleia2> we have slots open at 11, noon and 1PM
[23:24] <bkerensa> I can do 1pm
[23:24] <bkerensa> :)
[23:24] <pleia2> ok, thoughts on topics? we really need someone to do one on finding help in ubuntu (system docs, forums, askubuntu, irc, loco teams...)
[23:25] <bkerensa> Consider it done
[23:25] <pleia2> yay!
[23:25]  * pleia2 adds to schedule now
[23:25] <bkerensa> but since this is my first session over IRC can someone who has done one.... please explain the format and what prep work I should do?
[23:25] <bkerensa> do I just write it up before hand and copy paste?
[23:26] <bkerensa> or am I supposed to do it on the fly? :P
[23:26] <pleia2> most people write it up before and hand copy/paste
[23:26] <bkerensa> ok
[23:26] <bkerensa> will do
[23:27] <pleia2> starcraftman has done the session in the past, he leaves great notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam/natty/FindingHelp
[23:27] <pleia2> (logs are at the bottom)
[23:28] <nigelb> starcraftman's sessions are usually awesome.
[23:29]  * AlanBell notes that starcraftman is in the output of a script I ran today
[23:29] <nigelb> :(
[23:29] <nigelb> I guess he got too busy to continue Ubuntu work.
[23:30] <AlanBell> well you can still just renew, anyhow, that is the kind of reason why it is a manual process
[23:43] <bkerensa> pleia2: I think I get to see a Ubuntu TV tomorrow
[23:43] <bkerensa> :)
[23:43] <pleia2> pfft, my tv already runs linux
[23:44] <bkerensa> at the very least I do get to go see two new Ubuntu Laptops but I found it interesting that Canonical is gonna show off a prototype at CES and just couple weeks before hand CTL announces a new line of Ubuntu products and they happen to make a majority of their money off of TV's
[23:44] <bkerensa> :D
[23:45] <nigelb> ok, out for a run. laters.