[00:06] <knome_local> ScottL: you online?
[01:00] <astraljava> len: I dunno, is gcdmaster superior to others, that it becomes worth the effort?
[03:22] <ScottL> knome, i'm here now
[03:23] <ScottL> holstein, len, i'm sorry i haven't been around much, work has been busy and i've been fighting illness but hopefully i'm finally over it
[03:24] <ScottL> len, we had looked at maybe falktx making the gcdmaster switch to gtk3 or similar, maybe we should poke him again about that
[03:30] <len> astraljava: gcdmaster seems to be the _only_ program that does what it does.
[03:31] <len> It allows editing a disk at once toc (ok any text editor does)
[03:32] <len> it allows setting audio file start and end points in the toc file by visually looking at the waveform in question.
[03:32] <len> it allows listening to the edit before burning.
[03:35] <len> it allows setting track marks anywhere including the middle of an audio file.
[03:36] <len> It is not the burning of the CD that is unique, that part is trivial and could be done on one line on the command line.
[03:37] <len> the part that is the most useful is the toc file editing. There is no other linux app that does this That I could find... not having too much luck with windoze either.
[03:38] <len> Basically, ardour without gcdmaster makes professional cd mastering impossible. It means one may as well just use audacity and make a demo... 
[03:42] <len> When using two audio files to make a cd where there will be a zero gap between them, the point where they join should be at a zero crossing, and of course if the first one ends on rising to zero, the second should be rising from zero...
[03:42] <len> in any case even going to silence it should start or end on zero crossing to avoid clicks or pops.
[03:43] <len> GcdMaster allows one to see the waveform and select by sample where the "edit" point is.
[03:46] <len> When making a "live" cd it is advantageous to be able to cull some of the noise and applause between songs while making it sound continuous. GCDMaster allows this to be done non-destructively in a quick and efficient manner.
[03:47] <len> OK, end rant.
[03:48] <len> Oh... one more... yes I have used it this way.
[07:43] <astraljava> len: Fair enough. I could take a stab at it, I guess.