[00:03] <HearsFred> Thanks qbit, I'm going to try another client
[00:06] <renny_> hi
[00:41] <arado> anyone awake?
[00:43] <mellin> Yes
[00:44] <ionut> hi all. i don't remember the password to login on channels (i've used it  a logn time ago). is there any way to get it back ?
[00:48] <ioubuntu> done no problem. thanks all
[00:48] <ioubuntu> good bye
[00:52] <BarkingFish> arado - we're about, sort of. Do you need some help with something?
[00:54] <arado> i do not need help. i just wonder about the quitness in this channel (with more than 250 people)
[00:55] <arado> i´m just bored ;)
[01:16] <hellslinger> qbit: I'm not sure what did the trick, but after removing gnome and unity and reinstalling upower, everything started working correctly :)
[01:26] <yottabit> so i'm trying to figure out why search and launch workspace isn't showing me the notebook iterface
[01:26] <yottabit> halp appreciated
[01:50]  * yottabit throws a bone at everyone who entered the channel
[01:57] <mosno> yottabit, howdy
[01:58] <yottabit> howdy mosno
[01:59] <yottabit> think you can help with my workspaces issue?
[02:00] <mosno> yottabit, highly unlikely
[02:00] <yottabit> hahah
[02:00] <mosno> yottabit, i don't even have kubuntu installed
[02:00] <yottabit> :)
[02:00] <yottabit> what are you waiting for?
[02:01] <mosno> yottabit, i was just wanting to see the calibre/volume of conversations in here
[02:01] <yottabit> there isn't much in here
[02:02] <yottabit> #ubuntu has more activity but you might not get an answer because of the volume
[02:02] <mosno> yottabit, yeah. i've been playing with kde 4.6 on debian...
[02:02] <mosno> yottabit, i was considering installing kubuntu in a vm to steal ideas/config
[02:02] <yottabit> i used gentoo for years, but i don't know what the v/c is like on #gentoo-kde
[02:03] <yottabit> most #nixos users are kde users
[02:03] <mosno> yottabit, i'm more interested in debian derivatives
[02:03] <yottabit> where are you putting those ideas?
[02:03] <yottabit> hopefully on the interwebs
[02:04] <mosno> yottabit, no, i mean i was planning on seeing how kubuntu implement something, eg. horizontal touchpad scrolling, gtk theming, then if i like the solution, porting it to my debian install
[02:05] <yottabit> oh, go for it!
[02:07] <mosno> yottabit, thanks for giving me permission ;)
[02:07] <yottabit> heh, just encouraging you to do something before the day's up :)
[02:12] <mosno> yottabit, i wish i had the time! i'm at work doing work stuff :(
[02:12] <mosno> but it's nice to lurk on IRC and feel connected
[02:26] <bibismcbryde> I'm kind of a linux newbie, and I've been trying for a while to install the rt2870 driver so that I can use my cisco ae1000 usb wireless adapter. I've been following the instructions here: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-rt2870-chipset-based-usb-wireless-adapter.html and am able to get up to changing the config.mk file in os/linux, but when I type "make," I get the following error:
[02:26] <bibismcbryde> make -C tools make[1]: Entering directory `/home/elizabeth/Downloads/2010_0709_RT2870_Linux_STA_v2.4.0.1/tools' gcc -g bin2h.c -o bin2h make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/elizabeth/Downloads/2010_0709_RT2870_Linux_STA_v2.4.0.1/tools' /home/elizabeth/Downloads/2010_0709_RT2870_Linux_STA_v2.4.0.1/tools/bin2h cp -f os/linux/Makefile.6 /home/elizabeth/Downloads/2010_0709_RT2870_Linux_STA_v2.4.0.1/os/linux/Makefile make -C /lib/modul
[02:27] <bibismcbryde> oops - hold on
[02:29] <bibismcbryde> Has anyone else had that problem?
[02:30] <bibismcbryde>  /home/elizabeth/Downloads/2010_0709_RT2870_Linux_STA_v2.4.0.1/os/linux/../../common/cmm_mac_usb.c:52:2: error: implicit declaration of function ‘usb_buffer_alloc’ [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
[02:30] <bibismcbryde> and a bunch of other stuff like that?
[02:30] <bibismcbryde> It's a long error message, but that's the first thing that causes it to not make
[02:30] <yottabit> ummm...
[02:31] <yottabit> i'm trying to think of a channel to send you to
[02:31] <bibismcbryde> I've googled this line and it's come up in three queries, one of which is in german
[02:31] <yottabit> i don't think you're going to find much help here
[02:31] <bibismcbryde> okay
[02:31] <bibismcbryde> sorry
[02:31] <yottabit> np
[02:31] <yottabit> ##networking maybe
[02:31] <yottabit> ##wireless
[02:32] <yottabit> ##linux is another ofc
[02:32] <bibismcbryde> how do I switch channels? (never used irc before - pretty embarassing as a cs major)
[02:32] <yottabit> i think the questions that generally are answered in here are kde related
[02:32] <yottabit> type in /join #foobar
[02:33] <bibismcbryde> awesome. thanks
[02:33] <yottabit> np, gl
[02:38] <naught101> sometimes when my phone is playing up, and I try to unmount it (usb storage), it locks up the usb bus totally, so that I can no longer mount/unmount devices. Even my mouse no longer works if I unplug and replug
[02:38] <naught101> andyone know if there's a way to reset the usb bus or something? not sure if this is something to do with KDE or linux generally
[02:41] <naught101> oh, and dmesg has something like [ 1560.737009] INFO: task umount:16178 blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[05:22] <levi501d> is there a way to permanently ignore a directory from updatedb?
[05:24] <randomatix> levi501d: $ man updatedb.conf
[05:24] <levi501d> ahh roger that thanks :)
[06:50] <drox> Good day in Italy is 7.50 and I can not understand why no sound is heard only by the applications or Internet sites or those with more applications in Java ... Can anyone help me out?
[08:50] <jalcine> KTimeTracker doesn't work as a standalone, like it can't build its KPart.
[08:50] <jalcine> And when I use it in Kontact, it always fails.
[08:50] <jalcine> Fails to create a task due to some non-existent lock it wants me to remove at ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/lock/
[08:54] <jalcine> Now, it crashed when I tried to adjust the times. I think something's messed up.
[08:54] <jalcine> Going to report a bug.
[08:56] <jalcine> Also, how do I edit what appears in the Messaging menu?
[08:56] <jalcine> It keeps showing Empathy, but I neither have it installed or use it.
[09:05] <kroonrs> My skype doesn't seem to pick up my internal microphone - I can record and playback successfully using parec and pacat.  I'm running KDE on Lucid.  Skype configured to use pulseaudio for everything, no other options showing.
[09:07] <kroonrs> jalcine: look for KDE menu editor
[11:34] <almoxarife> does kde have an equiv of gnome-keyring?
[11:40] <drox> almoxarife: hi i have a little problem, i don't listen audio when i stay in internet type youtube. I think the problem can to be flash-plugin, but i don't find solution, Could you  help me?
[11:41] <almoxarife> drox: if its flash you also dont see video
[11:42] <drox> i know and understand... but then what can to be?
[11:44] <almoxarife> drox: use nickname, i am in a couple of places
[11:44] <almoxarife> drox: no sound on youtube only? flash only? no sound? explain
[11:45] <drox> in another aplication i listen audio, type amarok, or system... but in internet whit application flash i don't lisen nothing
[11:45] <drox> in another aplication i listen audio, type amarok, or system... but in internet whit application flash i don't lisen nothing almoxarife
[11:46] <almoxarife> drox: no sound on internet using the web browser?
[11:47] <drox> i use ff, i have to try rekonq, nothing different
[11:47] <drox> i use ff, i have to try rekonq, nothing different  almoxarife
[11:48] <drox> yes using the web browers almoxarife
[11:49] <drox> almoxarife:  no sound, if i use the amarock to listen radio no problem audio. I think a problem config plugin web browers, but i don't konw that
[11:50] <almoxarife> drox: i want to make sure i understand this, can you see flash video with the web browser?
[11:51] <drox> yes i see
[11:52] <almoxarife> drox: but you can not hear the sound? if you can not hear, the answer is 'yes'
[11:53] <drox> yes i think understand
[11:54] <almoxarife> drox: flashplayer has a 'mini-volume' volume control, is that control 'muted' or all the way to the negative(left-side)??
[11:54] <A_J> hey all, can someone tell me how to swicth a user.
[11:55] <Peace-> A_J: wtf kmene switch user?
[11:55] <Peace-> kmenu
[11:55] <Tm_T> Peace-: please watch your acronym use
[11:56] <A_J> kmenu Peace- ?
[11:56] <A_J> new to KDE, can you tell me where is it.
[11:57] <A_J> Peace-:  ?
[11:57] <almoxarife> A_J: that big K on your panel?? see it?
[11:58]  * A_J makes a screenshot
[11:58] <almoxarife> drox: ??
[11:59] <A_J> http://i.lulzimg.com/3684a46623.png
[11:59] <Peace-> A_J: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/09/plasma-desktopOI7175.png
[11:59] <A_J> almoxarife ^
[11:59] <drox> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/09/schermata2.png where is this control? in web browers?
[11:59] <Peace-> A_J: omg you are not using kde
[12:00] <A_J> umm i installed it over ubuntu Peace-
[12:00] <Peace-> A_J: you have xfce
[12:00] <Peace-> A_J: please ask to #ubuntu
[12:00] <A_J> oh damn.
[12:00] <Peace-> here we support only kde
[12:00] <A_J> sorry i guess
[12:01] <drox> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/09/schermata2.png where is this control? in web browers? almoxarife
[12:03] <drox> what you do not understand is why everything was up to Saturday night yesterday, after he has had a hand my wife does not work anymore ... if it is a configuration problem how do I fix this? I have my panel messoil phonon and hardware can be ... boh almoxarife
[12:04] <Peace-> drox: kmix is running?
[12:04] <Peace-> drox:  veromix installed?
[12:04] <Peace-> alsamixer -V all ?
[12:09] <drox> http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/09/schermata2.png Peace-
[12:09] <almoxarife> what is the terminal command to see all the sound hardware?
[12:09] <almoxarife> aplay?
[12:10] <almoxarife> anyone??? sound hardware see all in terminal???
[12:10] <almoxarife> drox: open a terminal
[12:11] <almoxarife> drox: open kterminal
[12:11] <drox> almoxarife:  ok to do
[12:11] <drox> almoxarife:  i open alsamixer -V all but it don't canale in mute...
[12:11] <almoxarife> in terminal type                   sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:12] <drox> almoxarife:  i habe a widget plasma
[12:12] <almoxarife> drox: did you open a terminal?
[12:12] <drox> yes
[12:12] <almoxarife> in terminal type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:13] <almoxarife> type the next line
[12:13] <almoxarife> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[12:13] <almoxarife> drox: copy paste to terminal
[12:13] <drox> why install pastebinit, i have widget!!!
[12:14] <almoxarife> drox: would you please do as asked, you can uninstall after wards
[12:15] <drox> ok
[12:15] <almoxarife> when it is installed
[12:15] <drox> i install
[12:15] <almoxarife> copy paste the next line and share the link
[12:16] <almoxarife> aplay -L | pastebinit
[12:16] <drox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/798139/ inow understand
[12:16] <almoxarife> drox: :)
[12:17] <drox> almoxarife: for listen i use Creative, Intel only record...
[12:21] <almoxarife> drox: you have a huge selection of choices, i cant tell you which is the correct one, your first choice from the png is 'not' the 'default', should it be the 'default' option??
[12:24] <almoxarife> drox: i would suggest taking your audio back to 'HDA Intel, ALC1200 Analog' , verify you have sound from that option for all sources of 'sound', then experiment with the other options, do you understand??
[12:25] <drox> ok i understand
[12:25] <almoxarife> drox: could the problem be related to 'creative'??
[12:26] <almoxarife> drox:another line for the terminal, copy paste next line, share link
[12:27] <almoxarife> pastebinit /var/log/sys.log
[12:27] <almoxarife> drox: i gave you wrong log
[12:27] <drox> impossibile read /var/log/sys.log
[12:28] <almoxarife> drox: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[12:28] <drox> one moment
[12:28] <drox> http://paste.ubuntu.com/798150/
[12:32] <fatum> hi. I have Kopete, icq client and when I get messages from Trillian (Windows) from one of my contacts, I get also HTML tags with it.. any help?
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/798150/ <-- look at line 3396
[12:38] <almoxarife> fatum: those tags a copy paste or your client not able to interpret html?
[12:40] <almoxarife> fatum: look at this, makes sense? http://help.trillian.im/discussions/suggestions/410-html-tags-in-icq-messages
[12:41] <fatum> so, problem on his side?
[12:44] <drox> ok thank you almoxarife
[12:46] <Ignus_Fatum> hello
[12:46] <Ignus_Fatum> Newbee  Allert
[12:46] <Ignus_Fatum> Having trouble with encrypted swap
[12:46] <Ignus_Fatum> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[12:46] <Ignus_Fatum> #
[12:46] <Ignus_Fatum> # Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
[12:46] <Ignus_Fatum> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
[12:46] <Ignus_Fatum> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[12:46] <FloodBotK2> Ignus_Fatum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <Ignus_Fatum> #
[12:53] <Ignus_Fatum> ?
[13:15] <loacks> how to display the groups some user is in of the users some group contains?
[14:03] <zacarias> When I restar Kubuntu, the screen resolution always goes back to 1024x768. I have to choose the wright resolution (1440x900) each time I restart the computer. This doesn't happen if I just logout. Any idea of how to solve this?
[14:06] <drox> web browers for the handling of the browers is handled only through pulse?
[14:25] <GuestOgre> wow
[14:26] <GuestOgre> kubuntu 11.10 is faster than Debian 6 kde
[14:29] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[14:30]  * GuestOgre shocked
[14:30] <GuestOgre> KDE is very fast with nouveau!
[14:32] <beyondcr> love kde
[14:32] <beyondcr> 12.04 is solid
[14:32] <GuestOgre> well, i hated KDE in Debian 6, it is very slow.
[14:32] <GuestOgre> kde 4.4.5 , very old
[14:34] <BluesKaj> GuestOgre,  which nvidia card , you might get even faster response with the nvidia recommended driver in kmenu>apps>settings>additional drivers
[14:34] <GuestOgre> wow, i'm updating with Additional Drivers... i can't wait :D
[14:35] <BluesKaj> beyondcr,  it's not solid for everyone ..believe me
[14:41] <BarkingFish> how do I find out whether we have wireless drivers inbuilt for a particular wifi card?  I have one I can put inside my machine now on PCI, but don't know if i can get (or we have) drivers for it.
[14:43] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  if you know what chip it uses then it's fairlyeasy to search the package manager for the driver if that kernel source driver exists
[14:44] <BarkingFish> I don't know what chip it is, BluesKaj - I know the make and model of the card though, it's a Netgear WG311 v2
[14:48] <mr-rich> BarkingFish: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=Netgear+WG311+linux
[14:48] <BarkingFish> right, BluesKaj :)  I found the chip data on google, it's an acx111 chip
[14:48] <BarkingFish> package manager doesn't show up any hits on the chip
[14:49] <BarkingFish> i'll install it into my PC, and see if I can get the ID and run it through ndiswrapper for now
[14:49] <zacarias> In the Kickoff menu, when I choose the "Quit" tab I never see the option to shut down or restart the computer (just "log out", "hibernate", "change user" and "lock"). How do I change that?
[14:49] <BarkingFish> back in a bit
[14:50] <mikecb_> what's the deal with ubuntu one in kubuntu?  Is there a qt frontend?
[14:52] <lethu> mikecb_, can you be more clear please?
[14:53] <mikecb_> is there a separate application for kubuntu, or are we forced to install the gtk application written for ubuntu?
[14:53] <lethu> mikecb_, have you installed Kubuntu then ended up with a Gnome desktop environment?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> bar yeah , it's relatively old so it might be easy to install , drivers etc should be available without having to resort to ndiswrapper
[14:53] <mikecb_> no
[14:53] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:54] <BluesKaj> mikecb_,  yeah , if you want ubuntuone , you're stuck with gtk afaik
[14:55] <mikecb_> lame
[14:55] <mikecb_> thanks
[14:55] <lethu> mikecb_, when you can't find the application you are looking for in QT, then it's sometimes necessary to install gtk in order to get some apps which don't exist in a Qt form
[14:55] <mikecb_> lethu: indeed, was just wondering if anyone had developed one.  Thanks.
[14:55] <BluesKaj> mikecb_,  personally I use dropbox , there's a method for kde without needing nautilus
[14:55] <lethu> mikecb_, yw
[14:56] <mikecb_> BluesKaj: me too, but I'm trying to move away from it because I don't like it that much.
[14:56] <mikecb_> plus, one is cheaper
[14:56] <mikecb_> :)
[14:58] <schnelle> zacarias: remove kickoff menu from panel and add it again and see if that helps
[14:58] <BluesKaj> ok, mikecb_ if you require more space then that's differnet ...I'm not paying , anyway my ISP provides me with 25G of space with easy access fo family etc to share stuff
[14:58] <mikecb_> cool
[15:02] <BarkingFish> Hi again :)  Right, the card is in place, and it's being detected by lspci - I can't see anything at the moment registered as a second network interface though, so I assume we don't directly have drivers for it.
[15:03] <BarkingFish> This is what my system is telling me it is: 03:05.0 Network controller [0280]: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface [104c:9066]
[15:04] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  run lsmod , try to find the card , the driver name should be right beside it
[15:05] <BarkingFish> it doesn't show up in lsmod
[15:06] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  sudo modprobe acx ..try that
[15:07] <BluesKaj> that should load the driver
[15:07] <BarkingFish> fatal: Module acx not found
[15:07] <hazamonzo> Does Kate usually have issues opening up a 60kiB file?
[15:08] <BarkingFish> hazamonzo: no, it shouldn't anyway
[15:08] <hazamonzo> kate is now eating 100% of one on my cores and frozen :(
[15:08] <BarkingFish> I've had files open in there well over 16mb and it's not done anything.
[15:09] <hazamonzo> Iwonder if its just the type of file.... its just a .js with json data
[15:09] <BarkingFish> press CTRL+ALT+ESC, your cursor will change to a skull and crossbones, click on the kate window and that will kill it.  It sounds like it's just outright hung
[15:10] <BarkingFish> try to reopen the file in kate, and if it fails again, let us know.
[15:10] <hazamonzo> BarkingFish: yeah i am looking at the processes but i was reluctant to kill it as i have many files open in kate. Didn't want to lose them when i restarted kate
[15:10] <hazamonzo> Guess i have no choice. 2 secs
[15:12] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: I managed to find the last issued software version for the card, just downloaded it and I'll try rigging it through ndiswrapper.
[15:13] <hazamonzo> BarkingFish: Dang.. same thing again.. http://wstaw.org/m/2012/01/09/plasma-desktopBV3736.jpg
[15:13] <hazamonzo> only the one file opened in kate this time. the same json .js
[15:14] <hazamonzo> Vi it is :)
[15:14] <BarkingFish> hazamonzo: do you think you could put a copy of that file on dropbox for me and let me check it this end please?
[15:15] <hazamonzo> BarkingFish: Sure. Can i use pastebin though?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  I was hoping you'd be able to avoid ndiswrapper , however I used it for a while and it worked ok , not the fastest for file transfers etc but fine for regulare websurfing etc
[15:17] <BarkingFish> i'm running on ndiswrapper now with my old USB wifi stick :)
[15:17] <BarkingFish> I'm just setting up a second interface for all my wireless stuff, so I can have one in broadcast mode and a PAN
[15:17] <BarkingFish> hazamonzo: that's fine
[15:18] <hazamonzo> BarkingFish: 1 min
[15:19] <BarkingFish> i'll be back in a sec, BluesKaj and hazamonzo - just gonna restart and check the PCI card is up
[15:19] <BarkingFish> brb
[15:26] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj: card is up and working, slightly odd as it's skipped an interface name, but as long as it works I'm not fussed.
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ok wep ?
[15:26] <BarkingFish> I now have my usb stick on wlan0 and the pci card has (for some reason) been assigned wlan2
[15:27] <BarkingFish> works on wep and wpa
[15:27] <BluesKaj> cool
[15:27] <BarkingFish> i'm on the card now over a wpa connection
[15:28] <BarkingFish> don't understand why the device identifier is different, why did it get wlan2, and can I change that?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> I have a belkin usb stick rt2870 driver , that widget says it's connected in NM but only to the router , it doesn't load any webpages ..404 etc
[15:30] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  uhm, why fool with success ? :)
[15:30] <BarkingFish> because I'm a stickler for things being in order, BluesKaj :)
[15:31] <BarkingFish> autism does that to you :)
[15:31] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  you may regret it if you do
[15:32] <BarkingFish> i would at least want to try, if it goes feet up I can uninstall the ndiswrapper stuff and start again
[15:32] <BarkingFish> it's no biggie
[15:32] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish,  it may be leaving the option for the ethernet card use "1"
[15:32] <BluesKaj> to use
[15:33] <BluesKaj> Nm that is
[15:33] <BarkingFish> looks like it is actually, I have eth1 on the system as a wired for my pocket PC
[15:34] <BarkingFish> ok, scratch the change then, but it's gonna throw me for a bit :)
[15:34] <BluesKaj> ndiswrapper :)
[15:35] <BarkingFish> ndiswrapper is lovely, I just wish we had an onboard driver for some of these weird assed chips that you find :)
[15:35] <BarkingFish> It would make life so much easier
[15:38] <BluesKaj> well, it works and that's the good part ...kind of an old nic , consider yourself fortunate , i think :)
[15:38] <BluesKaj> my belkin usb is even too old for W7 :(
[15:39] <BarkingFish> yeah, anyway I don't want wifi through it, just want it to run a dhcp for my pocket PC to go wireless to my main machine
[15:41] <BarkingFish> i'll set the wireless up for the pocket PC through wicd, since I know it better :)
[15:49] <floown> hello
[15:50] <floown> someone can indicate me how to use sed to increase the timeout in grub?
[15:50] <floown> I can use nano, the tty's display is to big (the caracters)
[15:50] <floown> * I can not
[15:57] <ts2> floown: should be "set timeout=some_number" afaik
[15:58] <floown> ts2: ? what is the command please, I don't understand…
[15:58] <BluesKaj> floown,  you can in /etc/default/grub with root permissions , then sudo updte-grub after editing
[15:58] <BluesKaj> update-grub
[15:59] <floown> BluesKaj: sure, but I can not use nano to do that… you have forget the verb in your sentence : what should I do? Edit ?
[16:02] <floown> Ok, and with the sed command ?
[16:02] <BluesKaj> floown,  use alt+f2 , kdesudo kate /etc/default/grub , look for the timeout and set it to however many secs you want
[16:02] <floown> BluesKaj: I'm in tty, sorry
[16:03] <floown> and can not use nano or wim
[16:03] <floown> cause the caracter are to big on the screen : I'm entering the letter as a blind…
[16:03] <ts2> sed -i -e 's/^GRUB_TIMEOUT=[0-9]*/GRUB_TIMEOUT=20/' /etc/default/grub
[16:03] <ts2> (for example)
[16:03] <floown> I try, thx
[16:05] <ts2> you may also want to increase GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT, that is how long grub will wait for a key-press before skipping showing the menu
[16:07] <floown> ok ts2, many thx, just a question again (I try to help my dad with the phone, in fact) : the right file to edit is/etc/default/grub and not   /boot/grub/menu.lst ? He use the Kubuntu 11.04
[16:08] <floown> (the dist-upgrade had fail…)
[16:08] <floown> to 11.10
[16:08] <GuestOgre> dude, this version is awesome like very nice crazy, it is faster than gnome :/
[16:08] <ts2> menu.lst is for the older grub, 11.04 should have grub2 I think
[16:09] <floown> ts2: ok, nice, have a nice day
[16:12] <BluesKaj> ts2,  yes grub2 is default on 11.04
[17:23] <Combatjuan> Silly question, but how do I accept the auto-complete in KDE Alt-F2? I can hit "End (or Ctrl-E) and then Enter" but I'd prefer to have a single key combo that doesn't involve moving my hands far from home row.
[17:28] <floown> ts2: I'm back to my grub problem, sorry. My father should use grub 1 in Kubuntu 11.04 and the vbeinfo command is not disponible in the grub command. Could you help us please if you have an idea about the problem, or a method to switch grub1 to grub2 befor I repair the display resolution?
[17:32] <ts2> floown: to change the timeout of grub?
[17:36] <floown> ts2: no, in fact I have only reboot the computer and I have ask befor my father to see the informations about the screen's display to resolve befor this problem. Sorry  ^^
[17:50] <shadeslayer> Combatjuan: Not sure, but I think you could configure it in systemsettings
[18:47] <Combatjuan> shadeslayer - You're right (at least kind-of).  Standard keybindings has several settings dealing with completion but none of them (save Ctrl-E Text Completion) works for me.  So I'll just stick with that.
[18:47] <shadeslayer> You could just define a custom key binding
[18:48] <Combatjuan> I suppose in this case "Next" and "Previous" aren't really part of it and it is "Text Completion" and not "Substring Completion" so it's probably working as intended.
[18:53] <khaled> hi
[18:53] <khaled> im have problem with ntfs driver
[18:54] <khaled> can't device works good
[19:34] <JayF> Hi all.  Linux virgin exploring Kubuntu here.  Is there a reason this room is silent?
[19:34] <JayF> I'm also an IRC virgin.
[20:09] <adminn> hello
[20:09] <adminn> I have a question....how do I do the day to day updates in kubuntu 11.10?
[20:10] <adminn> hello....anybody here?
[20:10] <adminn> could anyone help me please?
[20:12] <Efry> hello
[20:12] <Efry> anybody?
[20:13] <Efry> hello
[20:13] <rork> Efry: can you open the muon software center?
[20:13] <Efry> yep
[20:14] <Efry> then what?
[20:14] <rork> Muon software center > Settings > Updates
[20:14] <Efry> is that going to update my sistem?
[20:16] <rork> I'm not sure, I don't use it myself, but it says auto update, check daily and install without confirmation so that should be what you're looking for
[20:16] <Efry> ok, thank you :)
[20:16] <rork> Maybe someone else can confirm this but that might take some time for this channel is not very active
[20:17] <Efry> yep, I kind off noticed that :)
[20:17] <Efry> but I think that that is it
[20:18] <Efry> I just don't get it...there are so many people on this IRC chanel....
[20:18] <rork> It's the default channel in the Kubuntu KDE chat apps, I think many just keep it
[20:19] <Efry> aham, ok man, you've been verry helpful
[20:19] <rork> I'm afraid maybe 20 people are pretty, and they don't watch the channel all the time
[20:20] <rork> Thanks, I try :)
[20:42] <razl> hi, I shrinked my linux partition and created an ntfs partition on the free space but windows doesn't show it in explorer. what do I have to do to make windows recognize it?
[20:45] <BluesKaj> razl,  did you format it to ntfs , if so then ask in #windows , if not format it
[20:47] <razl> BluesKaj: I used GParted to create the ntfs partition, I think it formatted it (otherwise, why would the file system matter)
[20:49] <BluesKaj> ok ,some partitioners just flag the partition , but don't format until literally told to do so
[20:51] <BluesKaj> gparted formatted it  ...you may need to flag it as a boot partition for windows to see it , but I haven't worked with windows for many yrs , things may have changed since
[20:52] <BluesKaj> razl,  you really should ask in #windows
[20:53] <razl> BluesKaj: I did that at first but nobody answered since an hour
[21:00] <BluesKaj> razl,  does your btfs partition show up in dolphin>places ?
[21:00] <BluesKaj> ntfs
[21:11] <CharlieSheen> I am using Kubuntu 11.10, on a slightly older XP machine.  I am having problems, and am currently connected via ethernet, but I need to connect wirelessly.  I have WICD on my system, but it is still not picking up and of my wireless connections.  Can anyone assist me?
[21:14] <BluesKaj> which wifi nic chip , CharlieSheen ?
[21:15] <CharlieSheen> i dunno, all I know is what card it is, been trying to figure that out myself, but I am extremely novice.
[21:16] <CharlieSheen> How can i view that information from terminal?
[21:17] <CharlieSheen> I -think- it is Agere.
[21:18] <BluesKaj> CharlieSheen,  sudo lshw -C network
[21:20] <BluesKaj> or lspci and look for mobile
[21:21] <CharlieSheen> Product: 82801CAM (ICH3) Pro/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Cotnroller
[21:21] <CharlieSheen> Doesn't show mobile
[21:21] <BluesKaj> wlan?
[21:21] <CharlieSheen> But when the machien was windows, -it was wireless- so I know it is there
[21:22] <CharlieSheen> No wlan either
[21:23] <BluesKaj> CharlieSheen,  do you see anything like broadcom , atheros , belkin
[21:24] <CharlieSheen> i see communication comtroller agere ststems lt winmodem (rev 02)
[21:24] <CharlieSheen> Other than that or 82801CAM (ICH3) Pro/100 VE (LOM) Ethernet Cotnroller
[21:26] <BluesKaj> yeah the agere sounds right for wifi nic , CharlieSheen
[21:27] <CharlieSheen> Alright, so what should I do from here?  Like, what should I google for?
[21:29] <BluesKaj> CharlieSheen,  look in your package manager for agere , you'll see a driver for it , martian modem
[21:30] <CharlieSheen> So apt-cache show agere?
[21:32] <BluesKaj> no.open apper or muon
[21:37] <CharlieSheen> imuon is not finding anything
[21:39] <BluesKaj> CharlieSheen,  that's why I prefer snaptic
[21:39] <BluesKaj> synaptic
[21:39] <CharlieSheen> What is synaptic?
[21:39] <CharlieSheen> If it is something I can install with sudo apt-get and whatnot, and will be easier than this, I am game lol
[21:40] <BluesKaj> it's a gnome based package manager , which is more precise than any other IMO
[21:40] <CharlieSheen> Ah...so...what do I do, lol >.>
[21:41] <CharlieSheen> Am I pretty much screwed right now?
[21:41] <BluesKaj> yup , sudo apt-get install synaptic
[21:41] <BluesKaj> are you on 11.10 ?
[21:41] <CharlieSheen> Yes.
[21:42] <CharlieSheen> Ok its doing its thing lol
[21:42] <CharlieSheen> Also
[21:42] <BluesKaj> also make sure you have the canonical partners repositories enabled in the package manager
[21:42] <CharlieSheen> Can I PM you?
[21:43] <BluesKaj> CharlieSheen,  I prefer not to pm ...ppl can learb from what we're doing here
[21:43] <BluesKaj> learn
[21:44] <CharlieSheen> kk, here is a link, it is ebay, but it is the wireless card from the same line of computers.
[21:44] <CharlieSheen> http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-COMPAQ-Evo-N1000c-N1015c-Wireless-LAN-Card-Port-WF01-/300534803144
[21:47] <CharlieSheen> Also - Give me a few moments, I was having a small issue, but its fixed now.
[21:50] <BluesKaj> CharlieSheen,  best to look in windows in the control panel >devices to find the right wifi card , not all compaqs were equipped with the card you posted
[21:51] <CharlieSheen> Yeah, the machine is only kubuntu 11.10, no windows on it anymore.
[21:54] <BluesKaj> did you install synaptic ?
[21:56] <CharlieSheen> it is installing now, had an issue with my update heh
[22:00] <CharlieSheen> ok its installed
[22:02] <BluesKaj> ok look in kmenu>apps>system for it , then type agere in the searchbox
[22:07] <CharlieSheen> ok found agere, martian modem driver, I marked it for installation
[22:10] <BluesKaj> ok , install it to see if it's the right driver , you'll probly need to reboot , then check network manager to set it up with your router
[22:11] <CharlieSheen> how do I open it as admin?  It wont let me apply without doing that
[22:13] <BluesKaj> open CharlieSheen do you jave the network widget in the panel ?
[22:14] <CharlieSheen> no, earlier instructions from someone else had me remove -purge network-manager
[22:15] <CharlieSheen> Because they were saying 'use wicd instead'
[22:15] <BluesKaj> that was probly for the ethernet card , right ?
[22:15] <BluesKaj> ok do you have wicd then ?
[22:16] <CharlieSheen> yes.
[22:16] <CharlieSheen> but it wouldn't let me apply the driver
[22:16] <CharlieSheen> because it wasnt open in admin mode?
[22:16] <BluesKaj> ok launch wicd from the kmenu or run command , alt+f2
[22:17] <CharlieSheen> k
[22:17] <CharlieSheen> its open
[22:19] <BluesKaj> I haven't used wicd in a while . which tabs and options do you have there
[22:21] <BluesKaj> do you see any wifi networks listed?
[22:22] <BluesKaj> in preferences
[22:27] <CharlieSheen> no wireless networks found
[22:30] <BluesKaj> hope nothing's changed on your router wifi settings , and are you using wep or wpa setings there ?
[22:31] <CharlieSheen> wpa
[22:31] <BluesKaj> CharlieSheen,  personally I'd try network manager first before wicd
[22:33] <BluesKaj> wicd used to be afine wifi manager . but it hasn't ben easy to configure in the last few releases
[22:39] <BluesKaj> sorry CharlieSheen , I have to go ..bbl ..I hope
[22:40] <CharlieSheen> lol thanks for your help
[22:40] <CharlieSheen> hopefully i can figure this thing out lol
[22:45] <MaxHR> Hello, looking to get speech recognition running, mainly for word processing, but maybe also browsing, any suggestions for programs in the repos that will do this?
[22:54] <afief> Anybody up to verifying a bug?
[22:55] <pedro> Oh yeah
[23:00] <BarkingFish> afief: sure, depends which prog the bug's in and whether i've got it
[23:00] <BarkingFish> and also, which version of kubuntu you're using, and which version of kde :)
[23:00] <afief> Anybody up to verifying a bug?
[23:01] <BarkingFish> ...
[23:01] <BarkingFish> what am I? chopped liver? :P
[23:02] <afief> BarkingFish: sorry all you said arrived at the same time
[23:02] <BarkingFish> lol
[23:02] <BarkingFish> sorry, must have a wee bit of lag here :)
[23:02] <BarkingFish> nope, must be at your end :P
[23:03] <afief> well, the bug is in freeglut and supporting libraries(mainly OpenGL stuff), I'm on Kubuntu 10.10 with the KDE PPA
[23:03] <afief> BarkingFish: quite possible, but I have no clue how to fix it
[23:03] <BarkingFish> ah, well I can't help you then unfortunately.
[23:03] <afief> :(
[23:03] <BarkingFish> I'm on 11.10 with KDE 4.7.4
[23:04] <BarkingFish> just give me an idea, what is the bug?
[23:04] <afief> I need someone with a compiler and freeglut-dev installed
[23:11] <Resistance> afief:  you can't install the compilers yourself and compile?
[23:12] <afief> Resistance: I did, but I'd like someone to verify it before I start sending out bug reports