| ashams | hey guys, anyone know why canonical decided to make unity instead of just continuing with gnome(3)? | 00:12 |
|---|---|---|
| ashams | a history question :) | 00:13 |
| cjohnston | " founder Mark Shuttleworth cited philosophical differences with the GNOME team over the user experience to explain why Ubuntu would use Unity as the default desktop instead of GNOME Shell" | 00:33 |
| ashams | cjohnston, thnx | 00:47 |
| cjohnston | np | 00:47 |
| * bkerensa tries to wakeup before loco meeting :P | 02:36 | |
| === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell | ||
| czajkowski | aloha | 09:21 |
| head_victim | AlanBell: ping | 09:28 |
| AlanBell | hi head_victim | 09:35 |
| head_victim | Time for a quick PM? | 09:36 |
| AlanBell | sure | 09:36 |
| jono | jcastro, http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=167222 | 10:16 |
| czajkowski | jono: morning | 10:17 |
| jono | hey czajkowski | 10:17 |
| czajkowski | jono: hows you? | 10:18 |
| jono | czajkowski, good thanks, although getting over some stomach flu | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | :/ | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | got one of those fitbits | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | look kinda handy hope to start using it in a couple of weeks when I'm back on my feet | 10:19 |
| jono | czajkowski, nice! | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | only allowed to slowly walk atm, so nothing too physical | 10:20 |
| jcastro | dpm: what is the name of the tool that we give locos to make their own localized ubuntu CDs? | 13:13 |
| dpm | jcastro, lemme check it on the wiki page... | 13:14 |
| dpm | jcastro, the package to install is ubuntu-defaults-builder and the tools to run, in order, are: ubuntu-defaults-template and ubuntu-defaults-image | 13:15 |
| dpm | more info on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/LocalizedImagesRollout | 13:16 |
| jcastro | thanks! | 13:16 |
| dpm | np :) | 13:16 |
| mhall119 | jono: dpm: jcastro: balloons: good morning | 13:35 |
| mhall119 | where's dholbach? | 13:35 |
| jono | hey mhall119 | 13:35 |
| jono | he is delayed | 13:35 |
| jono | his flight was overbooked | 13:35 |
| mhall119 | ah | 13:35 |
| dpm | mhall119, hey hey :) | 13:35 |
| mhall119 | he can't take a train? | 13:35 |
| jono | mhall119, we will get you on the big screen soon...there is a QA meeting going on in here right now | 13:35 |
| jono | mhall119, train is too long | 13:36 |
| nigelb | mhall119: YOu aren't in Budapest? | 13:36 |
| jono | he just got delayed by a day | 13:36 |
| dpm | mhall119, it's a bit of a long way from Morocco... :) | 13:36 |
| mhall119 | no rush, I'm trying to stay on top of the Ubuntu TV stuffs | 13:36 |
| mhall119 | dpm: oh, I thought he was back in Germany | 13:36 |
| nigelb | haha, have you guys seen the 1990slinuxguy's tweets? | 13:38 |
| nigelb | The recent ones are hilarious :) | 13:38 |
| nigelb | "Ubuntu developers don't provide an easy way for switching to other package management systems. Ubuntu is an enemy of freedom." | 13:38 |
| Pici | o.O | 13:39 |
| mhall119 | lol | 13:41 |
| jcastro | mhall119: hang out created | 13:47 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: did you invite me? | 13:48 |
| jono | mhall119, he did | 13:49 |
| balloons | hello mhall119 | 13:50 |
| jono | mhall119, join now | 13:51 |
| jono | mhall119, did you get the invite? | 13:51 |
| mhall119 | jono: haven't seen it yet :( | 13:51 |
| jono | mhall119, jcastro is fixing it now | 13:51 |
| jono | mhall119, check now | 13:52 |
| jcastro | mhall119: ok try now | 13:52 |
| jcastro | ok I figured it out | 13:54 |
| jcastro | mhall119: you need to create so we can join | 13:54 |
| jcastro | it doesn't let me hang out twice if I am the creator | 13:54 |
| jcastro | mhall119: got it? | 13:55 |
| jcastro | mhall119: hello? | 13:56 |
| mhall119 | I need to create a new one? | 13:57 |
| jcastro | yes | 13:57 |
| mhall119 | invite sent | 13:58 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: no audio | 13:59 |
| jcastro | I don't think the problem is our end | 14:01 |
| jcastro | can you test your G+ thing? | 14:01 |
| jcastro | mhall119: ok so it shows the microphone with a line through it | 14:02 |
| jcastro | ok, let's try one more time, maybe start it again? | 14:02 |
| mhall119 | too bad there aren't any computer guys around | 14:03 |
| jcastro | hahaha | 14:03 |
| jcastro | ok | 14:03 |
| jcastro | when you run it this next time | 14:03 |
| jcastro | do the test thing | 14:03 |
| jcastro | just to rule out if it's my tablet or not | 14:03 |
| mhall119 | what 'test thing'? | 14:03 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: ?? | 14:05 |
| jcastro | like in the beginning | 14:06 |
| jcastro | when it says "check your hair" etc | 14:06 |
| jcastro | you can see the audio input and output levels, etc. | 14:06 |
| mhall119 | everything seemed fine | 14:07 |
| mhall119 | you could hear me right? | 14:07 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: another invite sent | 14:07 |
| jcastro | ok | 14:10 |
| jcastro | one sec | 14:10 |
| * mhall119 feels so alone | 14:12 | |
| * popey cuddles mhall119 | 14:13 | |
| nigelb | just use skype? :P | 14:13 |
| mhall119 | not quite that alone | 14:13 |
| mhall119 | Microsoft Skype? nevah! | 14:14 |
| jcastro | ok let me reboot this stupid android | 14:14 |
| * mhall119 wishes he was in Budapest | 14:14 | |
| * mhall119 or Las Vegas | 14:15 | |
| balloons | having troubles? | 14:17 |
| mhall119 | mine works fine, it runs Ubuntu ;) | 14:18 |
| jcastro | no audio still | 14:19 |
| jcastro | let me try it on a laptop | 14:19 |
| daker | hey small question : what's the difference between lens and scope ? | 14:19 |
| jcastro | lenses have scopes | 14:19 |
| jcastro | "video" is a lens | 14:19 |
| jcastro | and would have scopes | 14:19 |
| jcastro | one for youtube, one for vimeo, etc. | 14:19 |
| mhall119 | daker: scopes provide results to lenses | 14:20 |
| daker | ah just like backend engines | 14:20 |
| mhall119 | yeah | 14:20 |
| daker | thanks | 14:20 |
| jcastro | mhall119: installing plugin now | 14:23 |
| jcastro | sorry, laptop is slow | 14:23 |
| daker | mhall119, what's going on in Budapest ? | 14:29 |
| mhall119 | daker: platform rally | 14:29 |
| jcastro | mhall119: ok, invite sent | 14:30 |
| jcastro | mhall119: brb | 14:40 |
| mhall119 | wow, hard crash | 15:20 |
| mhall119 | I do 't think my laptop like running hangouts so long | 15:20 |
| jcastro | heh | 15:23 |
| jcastro | no worries | 15:23 |
| mhall119 | hmmm, there are worries....my audio hardware isn't being seen after a reboot | 15:24 |
| nigelb | if only you were in budapest where the platform team is sprinting... :P | 15:24 |
| mhall119 | :P | 15:25 |
| mhall119 | attempting another reboot | 15:25 |
| mhall119 | well at least my hardware is recognized again | 15:30 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: hangouts run my CPU at 100%, I don't think I'll be able to keep it running the whole time | 15:30 |
| jcastro | ah no worries | 15:30 |
| mhall119 | :( | 15:31 |
| balloons | yikes.. 100%? | 15:32 |
| balloons | something is seriously off there | 15:32 |
| mhall119 | anything video-related does that | 15:33 |
| * mhall119 blames intel integraged graphics chips | 15:33 | |
| mhall119 | jcastro: I shared a google doc with you | 15:36 |
| mhall119 | of lenses and scopes I've found so far | 15:36 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: let me know when you want to discuss something on the trello board and I'll turn the hangout back on, otherwise I'm going to not abuse my laptop too much | 15:49 |
| jcastro | good idea | 16:09 |
| cprofitt | woah... is one of the open source tests that it has to compile to be free? | 16:24 |
| mhall119 | cprofitt: nope | 16:25 |
| cprofitt | so Fabian is being a bit inconsistent | 16:25 |
| mhall119 | OSI just requires that people can redistribute the source and binary (if they can make it compile) | 16:25 |
| cprofitt | thanks... I was not sure. | 16:25 |
| balloons | open source code in a proprietary language and compiler | 16:25 |
| mhall119 | cprofitt: where? | 16:26 |
| cprofitt | https://plus.google.com/u/0/117160764660029590483/posts/FnLufTLb2ve | 16:26 |
| balloons | cprofitt, in the other sense.. it needn't compile to be open source.. meaning compile without errors :-) | 16:26 |
| mhall119 | 388 people following Ubuntu TV on G+ | 16:28 |
| ts2 | cprofitt: gerr, it's "Qt" not "QT" | 16:30 |
| ts2 | ;) | 16:30 |
| cprofitt | ts2: I did not write the articles | 16:30 |
| ts2 | someone with a sticky shift-key no doubt | 16:32 |
| cprofitt | lol | 16:33 |
| mhall119 | cprofitt: haters gotta hate... | 16:33 |
| cprofitt | mhall119: yep... | 16:33 |
| cprofitt | I take a small bit of joy in making Fabian twist and spin | 16:34 |
| cprofitt | beyond his Ubuntu envy he seems like a decent chap... though he has issues with the Eldar so maybe not. | 16:34 |
| mhall119 | who/what is Eldar? | 16:36 |
| cprofitt | its a Warhamme 40K thing | 16:41 |
| cprofitt | a game using miniatures | 16:41 |
| mhall119 | ah | 16:41 |
| cprofitt | I used to play such games (started with the precursor to Dungeons and Dragons) and later I worked in the industry before going in to IT. | 16:50 |
| jono | cprofitt, LOL | 16:50 |
| jono | Fab is such a cool guy | 16:51 |
| jono | never a dick | 16:51 |
| jono | :-) | 16:51 |
| cprofitt | jono: lol | 16:51 |
| cprofitt | and he really doesn't have a bone to pick with Ubuntu | 16:51 |
| cprofitt | just ask him | 16:51 |
| cprofitt | :-) | 16:51 |
| mhall119 | cprofitt: well that's good, for a minute I thought he wasn't a fanboy | 16:52 |
| cprofitt | lol | 16:52 |
| cprofitt | mhall119: I think he is about to implode | 16:56 |
| cprofitt | https://plus.google.com/u/0/105047371315992982745/posts/DD5J475jopC | 16:56 |
| cprofitt | https://plus.google.com/u/0/105047371315992982745/posts/DD5J475jopC | 16:57 |
| cprofitt | when he argues with positive... and then reshares these it is rather difficult to not assume he is an Ubuntu troll | 16:57 |
| mhall119 | let him talk bad about it all he wants, as long as he keeps talking about it :) | 16:58 |
| * cprofitt nods | 16:59 | |
| cprofitt | that is another reason I like to engage him a bit | 16:59 |
| popey | meh | 17:01 |
| popey | i made a new years resolution not to engage people like that | 17:01 |
| popey | it's not productive | 17:01 |
| popey | equally http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112601-canonical-outs-ubuntu-tv-brave-or-stupid | 17:02 |
| popey | tl;dr, "I don't want a TV therefore nobody does" | 17:03 |
| cprofitt | popey: lol | 17:05 |
| cprofitt | how are ya popey ? | 17:08 |
| popey | great :D | 17:13 |
| cprofitt | good to hear! | 17:18 |
| snap-l | I have a hard time understanding the need for the Ubuntu TV, but I know there are folks out there that want such a device. | 20:06 |
| bkerensa | snap-l: It isnt a need based product versus a want-based product same with phones | 20:31 |
| bkerensa | there is no need for need for new products really we always just as consumers want new things | 20:31 |
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| topyli | bkerensa: there is a need to simplify things, we are stressed already. ubuntu tv of course isn't alone in trying to do this, but i'm glad this stuff is coming | 22:32 |
| topyli | it's another question whether i'd want an ubuntu tv, when i'm immersed in the google universe already. for others, it might be apple | 22:33 |
| topyli | but hey, i haven't even seen one or read about what it really does. maybe it's awesome :) | 22:34 |
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