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psusiwtf?  I keep trying to upload a package to my ppa and it gets through the dsc, the tar.gz, and then gets stuck 2k/3k uploading the .changes file...02:05
psusiahh I love it when the build queues are nice and short...02:29
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KNRO1Hello, I'm getting "invalid value" when I try to link a project to an existing Bazaar branch. This is the branch lp:~mutlaqja/libindi/indi-sbig and this is the URL to set the project branch https://launchpad.net/indi-sbig/trunk/+setbranch07:47
KNRO1Any idea what's going on?07:47
geseryou might want to ask in #launchpad if you don't get an answer here07:49
KNRO1looks like the names have to exactly match07:51
KNRO1actually not..07:54
KNRO1how can I ask to add a package to multiverse?08:35
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KNRO1or universe?08:40
gesera new package gets usually automatically into universe (DFSG-compliant license) or multiverse (non-free license, but redistributable)08:50
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l3onHi all... someone can tell me if I did the right thing in bug 899460 ?11:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 899460 in mrtg (Ubuntu) "mrtg bug was fixed upstream but is not available in stable or unstable ubuntu or debian packages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89946011:09
geserl3on: have you checked how hard it would be to extract a patch for a SRU? (not sure if it qualifies for SRU)11:19
l3ongeser, I'm working on that :)11:20
l3on_geser, well.. It seems that the patch could be apply at current ubuntu version (oneiric, natty, maverick)11:35
l3on_what's the best way to do that ?11:35
gesercheck if a SRU would apply for it (not sure myself, I'd would probably ask ubuntu-sru for an opinion) and then prepare the SRUs11:41
l3on_geser, I fixed mrtg for oneiric natty and maverick11:52
l3on_I don't remember, I have to set 'natty-update' ?11:52
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dupondjeHi, somebody could check if syncing tulip (http://packages.debian.org/source/unstable/tulip) is a good idea?12:12
dupondjepackage builds fine on Ubuntu precise here (pbuilder-dist)12:13
l3on_hey guys, someone can change this status from Fix Relaesed to Confirmed, please ? (bug 899460)12:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 899460 in mrtg (Ubuntu) "mrtg bug was fixed upstream but is not available in stable or unstable ubuntu or debian packages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89946012:16
l3on_geser, still around ?12:17
geserl3on_: yes, I'm around12:40
l3on_geser, can you change the status for bug 899460 ?12:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 899460 in mrtg (Ubuntu) "mrtg bug was fixed upstream but is not available in stable or unstable ubuntu or debian packages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89946012:41
geserthe distribution for upload is "$release-proposed"12:41
l3on_yes I used it :)12:44
geserl3on_: opened tasks for maverick, natty, oneiric. Feel free to assign them to you12:44
l3on_How can I do it ?12:44
l3on_did :)12:46
l3on_s/did/done12:46
l3on_ok geser and now same procedure? I mean:12:46
l3on_status confirmed, assignee removing, ubuntu-sponsors subscribing ?12:47
geseryes12:48
l3on_Ok, thansk... :)12:48
tumbleweeddupondje: what makes you unsure about syncing it?13:09
l3on_hey guys, since bug 569827 is about deprecated 9.10, I can set it as Fix Released ?13:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 569827 in python-psutil (Ubuntu) "psutil.cpu_percent() returns 0.0 although CPU Usage is higher" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56982713:12
l3on_what's the best way in this case ?13:13
tumbleweedl3on_: can we find the patch that fixed it, and SRU it?13:20
l3on_tumbleweed, in 11.10 it works fine, bug is opened in Karmic Koala ! :)13:21
tumbleweedl3on_: yes, I can see that from the bug, but nobody has pointed at the upstream commit that fixed it13:21
dupondjetumbleweed: cause there seems to be blocked in debian to get it into testing13:22
dupondjebut those are build issues, which I didn't had when building it in pbuilder13:22
tumbleweeddupondje: urm, debian bug 650653 seems to have failed the build on every architecture in debian13:24
ubottuDebian bug 650653 in src:tulip "tulip: FTBFS: No rule to make target `doc'" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/65065313:24
dupondjeweird, but it builded fine :)13:26
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tumbleweedI'll have a look in a bit. Just busy wit hsomething13:38
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KNROHello, how can I request to join the MOTU Science team?14:13
tumbleweedis motu science still alive?14:13
tumbleweed(it's great to see some interest in it, though \o/ )14:13
KNROtumleweed: well, MOTU in general then. I need to maintain a set of science packages and I've been doing package management for a long period now and have everything synced with upstream. I also happen to be the upstream developer as well.14:14
tumbleweedare these packages that are maintained by the debian science team? if so I suggest joining them too14:15
KNROthey are maintained by MOTU14:16
tumbleweedwhich packages?14:16
micahgwe could create a science packageset if there's sufficient interest, I think we have one person with PPU right now for quite a few science packages14:16
tumbleweedas to joining MOTU, you start by just doing things, and when people get tired of sponsoring uploads for you, you'll be told to apply for MOTU membership :)14:16
KNROINDI and 3rd party drivers... for example: I'm _already_ maintainer for this package: https://code.launchpad.net/libindi14:16
tumbleweedlooks like it's mostly being maintained by kubuntu people14:18
KNROthe thing is, I'm also tired of asking for syncing with upstream.. and sometimes packaging is not done correctly. Plus, this is hardware related drivers for astronomical instruments, I do packaging, then I clean them on new clean system, and test with _real_ hardware.14:18
KNROI doubt anyone in MOTU now can do that14:18
KNROclean=install14:18
Resistancelibindi is maintained by Kubuntus14:18
tumbleweedyes, packages like that could definitly use some love by upstream :)14:18
Resistancenot the MOTUs (directly)14:18
tumbleweedright, kubuntu maintain it for kstars14:19
Resistance^14:19
KNROTumbleweed: so I ask in Kubuntu then?14:19
KNROI'm also KStars developer :P14:20
tumbleweedKNRO: yes, it's in main not universe, so MOTU can't touch it14:20
KNROtumbleweed: the _rest_ of the packages are in universe and multiverse.14:20
Resistancetumbleweed:  if i'm reading the source package page for libindi right, then the Kubuntu Members group has access, and that'd require Kubuntu Council intervention to change?14:20
* Resistance is making wild assumptions, hence the question14:21
KNROonly libindi is in main.. everything else is in universe...14:21
KNROResistance: actually, I am put there as the maintainer. so I was able to make changes there to link to upstream.14:21
tumbleweedlibindi also recently made it into debian, so ubuntu might start using that packaging14:21
tumbleweed(I don't know how much kubuntu people do their own thing vs pull from debian)14:22
* Resistance peeks at debian14:22
Resistancetumbleweed is right, its in debian now14:22
KNROhmmmm, how would you know that?14:22
tumbleweedpackages.qa.debian.org/libindi14:23
KNROso if a package is in debian, it is just copied over?14:23
tumbleweedno, it's more complex than that :)14:23
* Laney blinks at the name of the team14:23
tumbleweedlink-hover suggets it's the kde people :P14:23
tumbleweedKNRO: most of ubuntu is unmodified debian, rebuilt14:24
KNROlol what KDE people specifically? I'm in KDE.14:24
tumbleweedKNRO: another large chunk is minor modifications of debian package (often temporary)14:24
tumbleweedand the remaining packages (like the current libindi package in Ubuntu) come straight from upstream, not debian14:25
KNROTumbleweed: but if libindi now in Debian, they will no longer take it from upstream?14:25
tumbleweedprobably14:26
tumbleweedunless there's a good reason not to, that'd be the best way to go14:26
KNROWhat about other packages in universe?14:26
tumbleweedwhat about them?14:27
KNROhow can I maintain them myself? or if I need to add a new INDI driver...etc...14:27
Resistancedon't the MOTUs hold priority over Universe?14:27
Resistance(if i'm not mistaken)14:27
tumbleweedResistance: what do you mean by that?14:27
Resistancetumbleweed: priority as in control over the Universe packages14:28
tumbleweedResistance: MOTU can touch anything in universe/multiverse, but should exercise a little caution when touching something that's also seeded14:28
tumbleweed(around freezes)14:28
tumbleweedKNRO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess14:29
* Resistance peeks at the u+1 dev schedule14:29
Resistanceoic14:29
micahgwell, MOTU should also be careful with seeded packages WRT new upstream releases that the flavors might not want (especially in an LTS)14:30
Resistancei take it the freeze you mentioned tumbleweed is the Debian Import freeze?14:30
* Resistance is looking at the release schedule14:30
tumbleweedResistance: no, alphas and other freezes that build ISOs14:31
Resistancewell unless there's a time issue with the release schedule on the wiki, the next release (alpha) isnt until february, no?14:32
tumbleweedResistance: I was replying to your question over packages in universe that overlap with packagesets14:32
Resistanceahh14:32
Resistancei see14:32
* Resistance retreats to lurk mode once more :)14:33
KNROSponsorship is not clear? I file a "bug" for package inclusion ?14:39
tumbleweedKNRO: we prefer to bring in new packages via debian https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages14:40
tumbleweedso I encourage you to engage with debian science / debian qt people14:40
KNROTumbleweed: yes ok, what if Debian do not include these packages?14:41
KNRODo yo also import Universe packages from Debian?14:41
tumbleweedmost of universe is from debian14:41
* Resistance points at ZNC as an example14:41
KNROand multiverse?14:41
tumbleweedyes14:41
KNROI have one package in multiverse...14:41
Resistancethe version in precise atm is based off of debian universe's version14:41
micahg~75% of universe is from Debian14:42
KNROok so debian it is :)14:42
tumbleweedKNRO: debian will almost always accept new packages14:42
micahg*unmodified from Debian14:42
KNROif a package makes it to debian, no need to inform folks in ubuntu to include it ?14:42
KNROit's automatic?14:42
tumbleweedsemi-automatic. You don't need to poke anyone, but it needs manual review14:43
tumbleweedhowever, we are now at Debian Import Freeze. So *anything* new from debian needs to be requested14:44
ScottKmicahg: 75% of the whole archive is unmodified from Debian, IIRC.  I think the percentage for Universe is higher.15:00
micahgwell, the graph on merges.ubuntu.com looks around 75%15:01
ScottKOK.15:03
Resistancemicahg:  tumbleweed:  for the "znc" package, they found a vulnerability in one of the modules... when the upstream fix is released, what does one need to do to get that fix included in the ubuntu repos (its in universe)?15:04
micahgI'm curious what the real numbers are15:04
micahgResistance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation15:04
Resistancemicahg:  if the upstream fix also changes the version number, what then?  (the ZNC devs are releasing the fix as 0.204 rather than 0.202 (current version) )15:05
micahgResistance: you need to get a patch (preferably from upstream VCS), to fix the issue, version updates for a CVE are usually not allowed15:06
ScottK(except for in the development release - i.e. precise)15:07
micahgright15:07
Resistancei fully expect this to be dumped into precise at some point (unless the code release with the fix is after the freeze)15:07
Resistancebecause the version of ZNC in question with the vulnerability is only in universe in precise (its in -backports for oneiric and natty)15:08
micahgResistance: after it's in precise, you can request new backports15:08
Resistancewell i found a patch...15:12
Resistanceshould i file a bug against the source package or the project?15:12
* Resistance assumes the source package, but...15:12
ScottKYes.15:13
Resistancethe bug is now filed, complete with the patch from Debian, and a link to the upstream fix.  :)15:19
Resistancei'll let someone else fix it15:19
tumbleweedResistance: why not do it yourself? :)15:22
Resistancetumbleweed:  because i have class in 10 minutes? :p;15:22
Resistance(and i fully expect to attempt to fix it after my last class is over, at 8PM :/)15:23
Resistancein the mean time, i'm busy :P15:23
teratornhi, anyone have a clue what might be a simple up-to-date native shared library package I could use as an example to help in a new packaging effort?16:13
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Laneycyphermox: I think something went wrong with valatoys: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libafrodite-0.12-2/filelist17:13
tumbleweeddupondje: you'll notice that tulip builds with -b but not -B17:30
andreas__hi, can someone sponsor this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/pytz/+bug/88516317:33
ubottuUbuntu bug 885163 in python-tz (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pytz dst() incorrectly handles Pacific/Apia day leap" [Undecided,New]17:33
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dupondjetumbleweed: how you mean ?19:09
tumbleweeddupondje: it'll build when you are building the architecture-independant packages too, but not when you are only building the architecture-dependant packages (like the Ubuntu non-i386, and all the debian buildds do)19:17
dupondjeahhh! ok19:17
tumbleweed(pretty trivial to fix, if you want to provide a patch :) )19:19
dupondjeis there a way to test it in pbuilder ?;)19:20
tumbleweedyes. --binary-arch19:21
tumbleweedandreas__: meh, the debian python-tz is rather out of date19:28
tumbleweedsurely there are other important updates for it too?19:30
andreas__tumbleweed: I don't know, I'm not the maintainer, I was focusing on fixing this bug which is rather important for me19:32
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ahasenacktumbleweed: I assume you were talking about the new version that is out there, that could have been uploaded to precise instead of the patched package?19:33
tumbleweedyeah19:33
tumbleweedwe follow tzdata upstream releases, and SRU them everywhere19:33
ahasenackyeah, I didn't do that because I'm not the maintainer and I wouldn't be able to verify the other changes19:33
tumbleweedI assume we don't do this for python-tz, because of the handful of roather unimportant reverse deps19:34
ahasenackand  because it's code19:34
tumbleweedstill, not that useful when it's out of date19:35
l3onhey guys, is it today the freeze update ?19:36
l3onor the 12th ?19:36
tumbleweedoh, duh, it takes the tzinfo from tzinfo19:36
tumbleweederr zoneinfo from tzdata19:36
ahasenacktumbleweed: yes19:37
ahasenackit's not duplicated19:37
tumbleweedthankfully19:38
tumbleweedbdrung: sponsor-patch should be able to guess the task from the UDD branch19:42
bdrungtumbleweed: that makes sense.19:43
bdrungtumbleweed: patches are welcome. :p19:43
tumbleweedfirst... let me fix a bug in my last change there19:43
tumbleweedahasenack: SRU uploads should be targetted at $release-update19:45
ahasenackaaarrrrghhhhhhhh19:45
ahasenackI forgot that19:45
tumbleweednp19:45
* tumbleweed 'll fix them up19:45
ahasenackreally? I love you19:45
tumbleweederr -proposed19:45
ahasenackyep :)19:46
ahasenackwant me to push a fix? I can do that19:46
ahasenackin fact, I'll do it anyway, to remain consistent19:46
tumbleweedI'm busy uploading lucid. You can fix the others19:47
ahasenackok19:47
ahasenacktumbleweed: done and pushed for maverick, natty and oneiric19:52
tumbleweedbdrung: fix committed20:03
tumbleweedahasenack: removed the .11.10 from the oneiric one. Unecessary. All uploaded, pending SRU team review...20:10
ahasenacktumbleweed: ok, thanks again and sorry for that rookie mistake20:10
tumbleweedpish, np20:10
tumbleweedwe generally make the rookies get everything perfect, though :)20:11
ahasenacktumbleweed: without that 11.10 from the release, will the updated natty package still upgade to the oneiric one?20:11
* ahasenack checks20:11
tumbleweedahasenack: there was only one release with that version, so a .1 was fine20:12
ahasenackso python-tz-2010b-1ubuntu0.11.04.1 to python-tz-2010b-1ubuntu2?20:12
tumbleweed2010b-1ubuntu1.120:12
ahasenackok, that works20:13
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micahgsiretart: with only lintian overrides and gbp configuration left, is there a reason to not sync libav-extra from Debian?21:32
siretartmicahg: did you check that all build dependencies are really the same?21:33
siretartmicahg: if they are the same, then syncing it would indeed make things easier21:33
micahgI did a debdiff between the current version in Ubuntu and the one in Debian, the only diff was the versioning on the libav-source21:34
siretartcool21:34
micahgsiretart: so, I'll test build and sync then21:34
siretartthanks!21:34
siretartit'll still need no-change rebuilds each time libav is uploaded, though21:35
siretartor to be more specific, each time libav-source is updated21:35
siretartbut usually, future syncs of libav-extra should take care of that21:36
micahgcool21:37
dupondjesiretart: there ?22:22
siretartdupondje: almost gone, but what's up?22:38
dupondjesiretart: http://packages.debian.org/source/unstable/live-config22:42
dupondjecan be synced ?22:42
siretartdupondje: I think it needs a merge rather than a sync22:45
siretartdupondje: also, I don't think that the upstart job for live-config is correct yet. I still need to file a proper bug and ask upstart-devel how to fix that22:46
dupondjesiretart: all changes are in debian now, except a restart after reconfig of lxdm22:49
l3on_hey guys, someone can tell me how to fix this kind of bug? (bug 898027)22:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 898027 in pywbem (Ubuntu) "package python-pywbem (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/wbemcli', which is also in package wbemcli 1.6.1-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89802722:51
l3on_wbemcli should conflict with python-pywbem (or viceversa), is it right ?22:51
dupondjebtw23:03
dupondjesomebody knows what we can do with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eggdrop/+changelog ?23:03
dupondjethe current version includes a SSL patch (delta with debian)23:03
l3on_dupondje, I looked at this23:03
dupondjewe can merge it with the ssl patch, but the SSL patch is highly discouraged by upstream (eggdrop dev)23:04
Resistancei found a patch for a vulnerability in the ZNC Source package in Precise, how do i add the patch to the source package and have it uploaded and added into the Precise repos?23:04
l3on_Yes, you're right23:04
dupondjeand if I look at the bugreports23:04
dupondjeI see half of them caused by the bad ssl patch23:04
dupondjeso ...23:04
Resistancetumbleweed:  'tis the patch i found for ZNC, and I want to apply it myself23:04
dupondjekick out the patch and sync (but lose SSL) ?23:04
dupondjeor merge with a new crappy patch included still ...23:05
dupondje)23:05
dupondjeResistance: no new version released of ZNC for that ?23:05
l3on_dupondje, I chose to do nothing23:05
broderdupondje: what about "fix the patch"?23:06
Resistancedupondje:  released in 0.204, which is in alpha, upstream fix referenced (and a debian patch) in LP bug #91383623:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 913836 in znc (Ubuntu) "ZNC 0.202: vulnerability in bouncedcc module" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91383623:06
Resistancedupondje:  patches exist for ZNC 0.200 and 0.202 in Debian, and was updated in Debian23:06
l3on_. Note this patch does not have 64-bit or thread support23:07
l3on_dupondje, so can it build on amd64?23:07
dupondje0.202-2 will get synced :)23:07
dupondje@ Resistance23:08
l3on_what about take directly dev version 1.8.x ?23:08
dupondjel3on_: it is build at least ;)23:08
l3on_lol23:08
Resistancedupondje:  when, because I need it backported to Oneiric and Natty too (per my backport requests which were approved by broder, see LP bug #887758)23:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 887758 in Oneiric Backports "Please backport znc 0.202-1 from precise to natty" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88775823:10
Resistanceand if those backports have the same DoS vulnerability, i'd request a re-backport or a specific import :P23:11
dupondjeguess they do a last sync before freeze23:11
dupondjebut you can bug a syncrequest23:11
Resistancewhere do i file that bug?23:12
Resistanceagainst Precise?23:12
Resistanceor just against Ubuntu?23:12
Laney!sync23:13
ubottuHelpful information for filing a sync request can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess23:13
ResistanceLaney:  LP Bug #914026.  Is that formatted right?23:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 914026 in Ubuntu "Please sync znc 0.202-2 from Debian Sid to Precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91402623:21
Riddellcan we take a swap day for a conference leave day which is on a weekend?23:23
Riddelloh hmm, wrong channel23:23
l3on_Resistance, why you don't use 'requestsync' script ?23:24
LaneyResistance: looks good (would be nice if you include the new changelog entries), but in future you might find it easier to use the requestsync script23:24
ResistanceLaney:  which package has said script?23:24
* Resistance is new at requesting syncs23:24
Laneyubuntu-dev-tools23:25
jtaylorI don't like the new command-not-found :(23:26
jtaylorI was so used to just copy pasting the command from the output23:26
ResistanceLaney:  requestsync -d sid znc precise  <-- correct syntax?23:26
* Resistance might redo the request if he feels it necessary23:26
Laneymight be unstable instead of sid, and you don't need to specify precise (should be the default)23:27
Laneyno need to re-file though, just add the changelog entries to your bug and it's ok23:27
l3on_and use '--lp' if you dont have a MTA configured23:27
ResistanceLaney:  changelogs from debian?23:28
Laneyyes23:29
Laneyit's nice for reviewers to see the new changelog entries23:29
ResistanceLaney:  so if ther's only one entry, just copy-paste from the changelog into the bug?23:29
* Resistance has the debian changelog here on screen23:29
dupondjethre is an issue btw with changelog.debian.org :(23:29
Resistancedupondje:  i did dget <path to .dsc>23:30
Resistance:P23:30
dupondjehttp://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/python-poppler/ vs http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/python-poppler.html23:30
dupondjemissing alot of changelogs :(23:30
Laneyit doesn't work with 3.0 (quilt) afaik23:30
jtaylorthat issue is quite old and very annoying :/23:30
Laneypatches welcome, etc23:30
ResistanceLaney:  could you take a peek at the bug again? (i.e. refresh)23:31
Laneylooks good23:31
Resistance:)23:32
Resistancenow i need to apply the patch to my fork :P23:32

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