=== jasox is now known as jasox_afk === jasox_afk is now known as jasox [02:05] wtf? I keep trying to upload a package to my ppa and it gets through the dsc, the tar.gz, and then gets stuck 2k/3k uploading the .changes file... [02:29] ahh I love it when the build queues are nice and short... === Zhenech_ is now known as Zhenech === Zhenech is now known as 64MAAFA2J === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell [07:47] Hello, I'm getting "invalid value" when I try to link a project to an existing Bazaar branch. This is the branch lp:~mutlaqja/libindi/indi-sbig and this is the URL to set the project branch https://launchpad.net/indi-sbig/trunk/+setbranch [07:47] Any idea what's going on? [07:49] you might want to ask in #launchpad if you don't get an answer here [07:51] looks like the names have to exactly match [07:54] actually not.. [08:35] how can I ask to add a package to multiverse? === ripps_ is now known as ripps [08:40] or universe? [08:50] a new package gets usually automatically into universe (DFSG-compliant license) or multiverse (non-free license, but redistributable) === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [11:09] Hi all... someone can tell me if I did the right thing in bug 899460 ? [11:09] Launchpad bug 899460 in mrtg (Ubuntu) "mrtg bug was fixed upstream but is not available in stable or unstable ubuntu or debian packages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899460 [11:19] l3on: have you checked how hard it would be to extract a patch for a SRU? (not sure if it qualifies for SRU) [11:20] geser, I'm working on that :) [11:35] geser, well.. It seems that the patch could be apply at current ubuntu version (oneiric, natty, maverick) [11:35] what's the best way to do that ? [11:41] check if a SRU would apply for it (not sure myself, I'd would probably ask ubuntu-sru for an opinion) and then prepare the SRUs [11:52] geser, I fixed mrtg for oneiric natty and maverick [11:52] I don't remember, I have to set 'natty-update' ? === 64MAAFA2J is now known as Zhenech_ [12:12] Hi, somebody could check if syncing tulip (http://packages.debian.org/source/unstable/tulip) is a good idea? [12:13] package builds fine on Ubuntu precise here (pbuilder-dist) [12:16] hey guys, someone can change this status from Fix Relaesed to Confirmed, please ? (bug 899460) [12:16] Launchpad bug 899460 in mrtg (Ubuntu) "mrtg bug was fixed upstream but is not available in stable or unstable ubuntu or debian packages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899460 [12:17] geser, still around ? [12:40] l3on_: yes, I'm around [12:41] geser, can you change the status for bug 899460 ? [12:41] Launchpad bug 899460 in mrtg (Ubuntu) "mrtg bug was fixed upstream but is not available in stable or unstable ubuntu or debian packages" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899460 [12:41] the distribution for upload is "$release-proposed" [12:44] yes I used it :) [12:44] l3on_: opened tasks for maverick, natty, oneiric. Feel free to assign them to you [12:44] How can I do it ? [12:46] did :) [12:46] s/did/done [12:46] ok geser and now same procedure? I mean: [12:47] status confirmed, assignee removing, ubuntu-sponsors subscribing ? [12:48] yes [12:48] Ok, thansk... :) [13:09] dupondje: what makes you unsure about syncing it? [13:12] hey guys, since bug 569827 is about deprecated 9.10, I can set it as Fix Released ? [13:12] Launchpad bug 569827 in python-psutil (Ubuntu) "psutil.cpu_percent() returns 0.0 although CPU Usage is higher" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/569827 [13:13] what's the best way in this case ? [13:20] l3on_: can we find the patch that fixed it, and SRU it? [13:21] tumbleweed, in 11.10 it works fine, bug is opened in Karmic Koala ! :) [13:21] l3on_: yes, I can see that from the bug, but nobody has pointed at the upstream commit that fixed it [13:22] tumbleweed: cause there seems to be blocked in debian to get it into testing [13:22] but those are build issues, which I didn't had when building it in pbuilder [13:24] dupondje: urm, debian bug 650653 seems to have failed the build on every architecture in debian [13:24] Debian bug 650653 in src:tulip "tulip: FTBFS: No rule to make target `doc'" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/650653 [13:26] weird, but it builded fine :) === jdstrand1 is now known as jdstrand [13:38] I'll have a look in a bit. Just busy wit hsomething === l3on__ is now known as l3on [14:13] Hello, how can I request to join the MOTU Science team? [14:13] is motu science still alive? [14:13] (it's great to see some interest in it, though \o/ ) [14:14] tumleweed: well, MOTU in general then. I need to maintain a set of science packages and I've been doing package management for a long period now and have everything synced with upstream. I also happen to be the upstream developer as well. [14:15] are these packages that are maintained by the debian science team? if so I suggest joining them too [14:16] they are maintained by MOTU [14:16] which packages? [14:16] we could create a science packageset if there's sufficient interest, I think we have one person with PPU right now for quite a few science packages [14:16] as to joining MOTU, you start by just doing things, and when people get tired of sponsoring uploads for you, you'll be told to apply for MOTU membership :) [14:16] INDI and 3rd party drivers... for example: I'm _already_ maintainer for this package: https://code.launchpad.net/libindi [14:18] looks like it's mostly being maintained by kubuntu people [14:18] the thing is, I'm also tired of asking for syncing with upstream.. and sometimes packaging is not done correctly. Plus, this is hardware related drivers for astronomical instruments, I do packaging, then I clean them on new clean system, and test with _real_ hardware. [14:18] I doubt anyone in MOTU now can do that [14:18] clean=install [14:18] libindi is maintained by Kubuntus [14:18] yes, packages like that could definitly use some love by upstream :) [14:18] not the MOTUs (directly) [14:19] right, kubuntu maintain it for kstars [14:19] ^ [14:19] Tumbleweed: so I ask in Kubuntu then? [14:20] I'm also KStars developer :P [14:20] KNRO: yes, it's in main not universe, so MOTU can't touch it [14:20] tumbleweed: the _rest_ of the packages are in universe and multiverse. [14:20] tumbleweed: if i'm reading the source package page for libindi right, then the Kubuntu Members group has access, and that'd require Kubuntu Council intervention to change? [14:21] * Resistance is making wild assumptions, hence the question [14:21] only libindi is in main.. everything else is in universe... [14:21] Resistance: actually, I am put there as the maintainer. so I was able to make changes there to link to upstream. [14:21] libindi also recently made it into debian, so ubuntu might start using that packaging [14:22] (I don't know how much kubuntu people do their own thing vs pull from debian) [14:22] * Resistance peeks at debian [14:22] tumbleweed is right, its in debian now [14:22] hmmmm, how would you know that? [14:23] packages.qa.debian.org/libindi [14:23] so if a package is in debian, it is just copied over? [14:23] no, it's more complex than that :) [14:23] * Laney blinks at the name of the team [14:23] link-hover suggets it's the kde people :P [14:24] KNRO: most of ubuntu is unmodified debian, rebuilt [14:24] lol what KDE people specifically? I'm in KDE. [14:24] KNRO: another large chunk is minor modifications of debian package (often temporary) [14:25] and the remaining packages (like the current libindi package in Ubuntu) come straight from upstream, not debian [14:25] Tumbleweed: but if libindi now in Debian, they will no longer take it from upstream? [14:26] probably [14:26] unless there's a good reason not to, that'd be the best way to go [14:26] What about other packages in universe? [14:27] what about them? [14:27] how can I maintain them myself? or if I need to add a new INDI driver...etc... [14:27] don't the MOTUs hold priority over Universe? [14:27] (if i'm not mistaken) [14:27] Resistance: what do you mean by that? [14:28] tumbleweed: priority as in control over the Universe packages [14:28] Resistance: MOTU can touch anything in universe/multiverse, but should exercise a little caution when touching something that's also seeded [14:28] (around freezes) [14:29] KNRO: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess [14:29] * Resistance peeks at the u+1 dev schedule [14:29] oic [14:30] well, MOTU should also be careful with seeded packages WRT new upstream releases that the flavors might not want (especially in an LTS) [14:30] i take it the freeze you mentioned tumbleweed is the Debian Import freeze? [14:30] * Resistance is looking at the release schedule [14:31] Resistance: no, alphas and other freezes that build ISOs [14:32] well unless there's a time issue with the release schedule on the wiki, the next release (alpha) isnt until february, no? [14:32] Resistance: I was replying to your question over packages in universe that overlap with packagesets [14:32] ahh [14:32] i see [14:33] * Resistance retreats to lurk mode once more :) [14:39] Sponsorship is not clear? I file a "bug" for package inclusion ? [14:40] KNRO: we prefer to bring in new packages via debian https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages [14:40] so I encourage you to engage with debian science / debian qt people [14:41] Tumbleweed: yes ok, what if Debian do not include these packages? [14:41] Do yo also import Universe packages from Debian? [14:41] most of universe is from debian [14:41] * Resistance points at ZNC as an example [14:41] and multiverse? [14:41] yes [14:41] I have one package in multiverse... [14:41] the version in precise atm is based off of debian universe's version [14:42] ~75% of universe is from Debian [14:42] ok so debian it is :) [14:42] KNRO: debian will almost always accept new packages [14:42] *unmodified from Debian [14:42] if a package makes it to debian, no need to inform folks in ubuntu to include it ? [14:42] it's automatic? [14:43] semi-automatic. You don't need to poke anyone, but it needs manual review [14:44] however, we are now at Debian Import Freeze. So *anything* new from debian needs to be requested [15:00] micahg: 75% of the whole archive is unmodified from Debian, IIRC. I think the percentage for Universe is higher. [15:01] well, the graph on merges.ubuntu.com looks around 75% [15:03] OK. [15:04] micahg: tumbleweed: for the "znc" package, they found a vulnerability in one of the modules... when the upstream fix is released, what does one need to do to get that fix included in the ubuntu repos (its in universe)? [15:04] I'm curious what the real numbers are [15:04] Resistance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation [15:05] micahg: if the upstream fix also changes the version number, what then? (the ZNC devs are releasing the fix as 0.204 rather than 0.202 (current version) ) [15:06] Resistance: you need to get a patch (preferably from upstream VCS), to fix the issue, version updates for a CVE are usually not allowed [15:07] (except for in the development release - i.e. precise) [15:07] right [15:07] i fully expect this to be dumped into precise at some point (unless the code release with the fix is after the freeze) [15:08] because the version of ZNC in question with the vulnerability is only in universe in precise (its in -backports for oneiric and natty) [15:08] Resistance: after it's in precise, you can request new backports [15:12] well i found a patch... [15:12] should i file a bug against the source package or the project? [15:12] * Resistance assumes the source package, but... [15:13] Yes. [15:19] the bug is now filed, complete with the patch from Debian, and a link to the upstream fix. :) [15:19] i'll let someone else fix it [15:22] Resistance: why not do it yourself? :) [15:22] tumbleweed: because i have class in 10 minutes? :p; [15:23] (and i fully expect to attempt to fix it after my last class is over, at 8PM :/) [15:23] in the mean time, i'm busy :P [16:13] hi, anyone have a clue what might be a simple up-to-date native shared library package I could use as an example to help in a new packaging effort? === l3on__ is now known as l3on === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === jasox is now known as jasox_study [17:13] cyphermox: I think something went wrong with valatoys: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libafrodite-0.12-2/filelist [17:30] dupondje: you'll notice that tulip builds with -b but not -B [17:33] hi, can someone sponsor this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/pytz/+bug/885163 [17:33] Ubuntu bug 885163 in python-tz (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pytz dst() incorrectly handles Pacific/Apia day leap" [Undecided,New] === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === jasox_study is now known as jasox [19:09] tumbleweed: how you mean ? [19:17] dupondje: it'll build when you are building the architecture-independant packages too, but not when you are only building the architecture-dependant packages (like the Ubuntu non-i386, and all the debian buildds do) [19:17] ahhh! ok [19:19] (pretty trivial to fix, if you want to provide a patch :) ) [19:20] is there a way to test it in pbuilder ?;) [19:21] yes. --binary-arch [19:28] andreas__: meh, the debian python-tz is rather out of date [19:30] surely there are other important updates for it too? [19:32] tumbleweed: I don't know, I'm not the maintainer, I was focusing on fixing this bug which is rather important for me === andreas__ is now known as ahasenack [19:33] tumbleweed: I assume you were talking about the new version that is out there, that could have been uploaded to precise instead of the patched package? [19:33] yeah [19:33] we follow tzdata upstream releases, and SRU them everywhere [19:33] yeah, I didn't do that because I'm not the maintainer and I wouldn't be able to verify the other changes [19:34] I assume we don't do this for python-tz, because of the handful of roather unimportant reverse deps [19:34] and because it's code [19:35] still, not that useful when it's out of date [19:36] hey guys, is it today the freeze update ? [19:36] or the 12th ? [19:36] oh, duh, it takes the tzinfo from tzinfo [19:36] err zoneinfo from tzdata [19:37] tumbleweed: yes [19:37] it's not duplicated [19:38] thankfully [19:42] bdrung: sponsor-patch should be able to guess the task from the UDD branch [19:43] tumbleweed: that makes sense. [19:43] tumbleweed: patches are welcome. :p [19:43] first... let me fix a bug in my last change there [19:45] ahasenack: SRU uploads should be targetted at $release-update [19:45] aaarrrrghhhhhhhh [19:45] I forgot that [19:45] np [19:45] * tumbleweed 'll fix them up [19:45] really? I love you [19:45] err -proposed [19:46] yep :) [19:46] want me to push a fix? I can do that [19:46] in fact, I'll do it anyway, to remain consistent [19:47] I'm busy uploading lucid. You can fix the others [19:47] ok [19:52] tumbleweed: done and pushed for maverick, natty and oneiric [20:03] bdrung: fix committed [20:10] ahasenack: removed the .11.10 from the oneiric one. Unecessary. All uploaded, pending SRU team review... [20:10] tumbleweed: ok, thanks again and sorry for that rookie mistake [20:10] pish, np [20:11] we generally make the rookies get everything perfect, though :) [20:11] tumbleweed: without that 11.10 from the release, will the updated natty package still upgade to the oneiric one? [20:11] * ahasenack checks [20:12] ahasenack: there was only one release with that version, so a .1 was fine [20:12] so python-tz-2010b-1ubuntu0.11.04.1 to python-tz-2010b-1ubuntu2? [20:12] 2010b-1ubuntu1.1 [20:13] ok, that works === and` is now known as and === and is now known as and` === JanC_ is now known as JanC === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:32] siretart: with only lintian overrides and gbp configuration left, is there a reason to not sync libav-extra from Debian? [21:33] micahg: did you check that all build dependencies are really the same? [21:33] micahg: if they are the same, then syncing it would indeed make things easier [21:34] I did a debdiff between the current version in Ubuntu and the one in Debian, the only diff was the versioning on the libav-source [21:34] cool [21:34] siretart: so, I'll test build and sync then [21:34] thanks! [21:35] it'll still need no-change rebuilds each time libav is uploaded, though [21:35] or to be more specific, each time libav-source is updated [21:36] but usually, future syncs of libav-extra should take care of that [21:37] cool [22:22] siretart: there ? [22:38] dupondje: almost gone, but what's up? [22:42] siretart: http://packages.debian.org/source/unstable/live-config [22:42] can be synced ? [22:45] dupondje: I think it needs a merge rather than a sync [22:46] dupondje: also, I don't think that the upstart job for live-config is correct yet. I still need to file a proper bug and ask upstart-devel how to fix that [22:49] siretart: all changes are in debian now, except a restart after reconfig of lxdm [22:51] hey guys, someone can tell me how to fix this kind of bug? (bug 898027) [22:51] Launchpad bug 898027 in pywbem (Ubuntu) "package python-pywbem (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/wbemcli', which is also in package wbemcli 1.6.1-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/898027 [22:51] wbemcli should conflict with python-pywbem (or viceversa), is it right ? [23:03] btw [23:03] somebody knows what we can do with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eggdrop/+changelog ? [23:03] the current version includes a SSL patch (delta with debian) [23:03] dupondje, I looked at this [23:04] we can merge it with the ssl patch, but the SSL patch is highly discouraged by upstream (eggdrop dev) [23:04] i found a patch for a vulnerability in the ZNC Source package in Precise, how do i add the patch to the source package and have it uploaded and added into the Precise repos? [23:04] Yes, you're right [23:04] and if I look at the bugreports [23:04] I see half of them caused by the bad ssl patch [23:04] so ... [23:04] tumbleweed: 'tis the patch i found for ZNC, and I want to apply it myself [23:04] kick out the patch and sync (but lose SSL) ? [23:05] or merge with a new crappy patch included still ... [23:05] ) [23:05] Resistance: no new version released of ZNC for that ? [23:05] dupondje, I chose to do nothing [23:06] dupondje: what about "fix the patch"? [23:06] dupondje: released in 0.204, which is in alpha, upstream fix referenced (and a debian patch) in LP bug #913836 [23:06] Launchpad bug 913836 in znc (Ubuntu) "ZNC 0.202: vulnerability in bouncedcc module" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/913836 [23:06] dupondje: patches exist for ZNC 0.200 and 0.202 in Debian, and was updated in Debian [23:07] . Note this patch does not have 64-bit or thread support [23:07] dupondje, so can it build on amd64? [23:07] 0.202-2 will get synced :) [23:08] @ Resistance [23:08] what about take directly dev version 1.8.x ? [23:08] l3on_: it is build at least ;) [23:08] lol [23:10] dupondje: when, because I need it backported to Oneiric and Natty too (per my backport requests which were approved by broder, see LP bug #887758) [23:10] Launchpad bug 887758 in Oneiric Backports "Please backport znc 0.202-1 from precise to natty" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/887758 [23:11] and if those backports have the same DoS vulnerability, i'd request a re-backport or a specific import :P [23:11] guess they do a last sync before freeze [23:11] but you can bug a syncrequest [23:12] where do i file that bug? [23:12] against Precise? [23:12] or just against Ubuntu? [23:13] !sync [23:13] Helpful information for filing a sync request can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess [23:21] Laney: LP Bug #914026. Is that formatted right? [23:21] Launchpad bug 914026 in Ubuntu "Please sync znc 0.202-2 from Debian Sid to Precise" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/914026 [23:23] can we take a swap day for a conference leave day which is on a weekend? [23:23] oh hmm, wrong channel [23:24] Resistance, why you don't use 'requestsync' script ? [23:24] Resistance: looks good (would be nice if you include the new changelog entries), but in future you might find it easier to use the requestsync script [23:24] Laney: which package has said script? [23:24] * Resistance is new at requesting syncs [23:25] ubuntu-dev-tools [23:26] I don't like the new command-not-found :( [23:26] I was so used to just copy pasting the command from the output [23:26] Laney: requestsync -d sid znc precise <-- correct syntax? [23:26] * Resistance might redo the request if he feels it necessary [23:27] might be unstable instead of sid, and you don't need to specify precise (should be the default) [23:27] no need to re-file though, just add the changelog entries to your bug and it's ok [23:27] and use '--lp' if you dont have a MTA configured [23:28] Laney: changelogs from debian? [23:29] yes [23:29] it's nice for reviewers to see the new changelog entries [23:29] Laney: so if ther's only one entry, just copy-paste from the changelog into the bug? [23:29] * Resistance has the debian changelog here on screen [23:29] thre is an issue btw with changelog.debian.org :( [23:30] dupondje: i did dget [23:30] :P [23:30] http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/python-poppler/ vs http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/python-poppler.html [23:30] missing alot of changelogs :( [23:30] it doesn't work with 3.0 (quilt) afaik [23:30] that issue is quite old and very annoying :/ [23:30] patches welcome, etc [23:31] Laney: could you take a peek at the bug again? (i.e. refresh) [23:31] looks good [23:32] :) [23:32] now i need to apply the patch to my fork :P