[03:06] <dax> fyi, I kicked nza for abusing the ops trigger. botmaster appears to have quit by themselves.
[03:16] <elky> dax, thanks, i couldn't spare the minutes to read what on earth was happening
[03:18] <dax> elky: stalker.pl seems to be under the impression that nza == incog, which didn't exactly endear me to them
[03:18] <elky> you got that running happily again?
[04:02] <dax> elky: yeah, it seems to cause less lag in the most recent version
[04:10] <elky> pm spam?
[04:10] <ChogyDan> from a pm
[04:11] <ChogyDan> (11:09:07 PM) JKuntsman: Tired of niggers? Sick of their monkeyshines? We are too! Join Chimpout Forum! http://www.chimpout.com/form  At Chimpout WE ARE NOT WHITE SUPREMACISTS!  If you are not a NIGGER and you hate NIGGERS, we welcome you! http://www.chimpout.com/forum
[04:11] <ChogyDan> thanks!
[04:11] <elky> thanks
[04:11] <dax> pangolin: I take it rejoining confirmed it?
[04:12] <pangolin> I didn't get anything in pm.
[04:14] <dax> ah, one of the smart ones then
[04:14] <pangolin> I suppose, but Chogy had no reason to randomly accuse.
[04:18] <pangolin> current complaint in #freenode ...
[04:22] <elky> also, look at the hostmask
[05:20] <alabd> Good day all , my user is banned in #ubuntu for about some months ... would you tell me when it will be removed ?1 year ? 2 year?or more ?
[07:22] <Tm_T> just noticed that ubuntu installer presents askubuntu as the best place to get answer about ubuntu (:
[07:30] <Flannel> Tm_T: That doesn't surprise me.  A few key Canonical folks hawk it all the time (and started it).
[07:41] <Tm_T> Flannel: yup, I think I should use it few times myself too
[07:42] <alabd> Good day all , my user is banned in #ubuntu for about some months ... would you tell me when it will be removed ?1 year ? 2 year?or more ?
[07:48] <AlanBell> hi alabd, we will look up the details and someone will get back to you in a bit
[07:49] <alabd> AlanBell: thanks
[07:57] <AlanBell> alabd: so your last ban was April 2011, which as you said was some time ago, how have you been getting on since then?
[07:57] <AlanBell> have you been using other ubuntu channels?
[07:58] <alabd> AlanBell: #linux
[08:04] <Tm_T> alabd: do you recall why you were banned and why the ban wasn't removed previously?
[08:05] <alabd> Tm_T maybe off topic ?
[08:05] <Tm_T> you recall or not?
[08:05] <AlanBell> alabd: it seems one of the reasons you were having difficulty participating in #ubuntu was that you were not running a standard ubuntu configuration but something very customised. Has that changed?
[08:14] <AlanBell> alabd: I expect some of the operators you have previously spoken to will be available later today, please have a read of the guidelines https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines while waiting
[08:15] <alabd> AlanBell: have not time read and discuss if you want remove ban if you don't want don't remove ..... after 8 months ban exists ...
[08:16] <Tm_T> alabd: bans don't expire, they do not get removed without discussion
[08:16] <alabd> Tm_T if there was any reason it does not exists after 8 months be sure
[08:19] <AlanBell> alabd: ok, if you could leave now please and when you have the time available have a read of the guidelines and come back to discuss further
[08:22] <alabd> AlanBell: again if there was a reason it does not exists after 8 months .. and have read guidelines before ...and am not beginner in irc  you can go and ask #electronics,#security , #php , ....
[08:23] <Myrtti> if you are still running some weirdly modified version of Ubuntu and want support for it on our channels, I don't see why the ban should be removed
[08:24] <alabd> no this is not true at all , was using normal ubuntu always ...
[08:24] <AlanBell> alabd: I am sure you are doing great on other unrelated channels, but we need to know that you understand the Ubuntu guidelines
[08:24] <AlanBell> alabd: as you say you don't have time to read them now, please come back when you have done so
[08:25] <alabd> AlanBell: understand fine , have read your guide line and anthing is important for you in #ubuntu is also important in other important channels ...
[08:27] <pangolin> alabd: ok, the ban will not be lifted at this time.
[08:28] <pangolin> Please part this channel.
[08:28] <pangolin> Good day/night.
[08:28] <alabd> pangolin:  was not talking to you sir
[08:28] <pangolin> correct, but I am talking to you sir.
[08:29] <AlanBell> alabd: please listen to pangolin and leave now
[08:30] <alabd> AlanBell: want to hear result of  this about 50 minutes spent here
[08:30] <pangolin> The result is the ban will not be removed at this time.
[08:31] <alabd> pangolin: again am not talking with you
[08:31] <pangolin> alabd: I am talking to you. I have made the decision.
[08:31] <pangolin> alabd: You do not dictate to us how to or when to remove a ban.
[08:32] <pangolin> little friendly advice. When you return in a couple of weeks please keep your attitude in line with the type of result you expect to get.
[08:33] <alabd> AlanBell:  you asked me to read guide line and other op asked me answered them , want to know if they were useless why should be asked and if they are usable where is result ?
[08:33] <Tm_T> alabd: the result is now that the ban won't be lifted at this time, as you still fail to listen and keep arguing
[08:34] <Tm_T> alabd: please part now and we'll can look this again in two weeks
[08:34] <AlanBell> alabd: the result is that you said you didn't have time to read them, and the ban won't be lifted at this time. As pangolin said, come back in a few weeks to discuss again.
[08:34] <alabd> Tm_T no will not do this again becuase listened enough , he asked me read guide line and other asked me question , answered them
[08:35] <alabd> AlanBell: told your for more than 3 times that have read it
[08:35] <Myrtti> no matter how many times you read them, if you've not understood what you read and act like has sunk in, the ban will not be lifted just because you do lip service
[08:36] <alabd> Myrtti: how do you undertsand that humbled me have not understood it ?
[08:36] <Tm_T> alabd: please part now and we'll can look this again in two weeks, the discussion isn't going to continue this time
[08:37] <AlanBell> ok, alabd, you don't have to come back, but either way, the ban isn't being lifted now and it isn't helping you to continue this conversation
[08:39] <alabd> AlanBell:  Tm_T Myrtti you are arguing with me , ok you are allowed and you have power here , have not time to wast time here ok ?  because one ask me read guideline , after reading the other one says you didn't understand on air ....if this is your last opinion will ask next team to investigate , be sure if they also wanted to use their power badly humbled me know what should be done ;) bye
[08:39] <Tm_T> me, slow?
[08:40] <pangolin> I new it.
[08:40] <pangolin> knew also
[08:40] <Tm_T> "me slow, you jane"
[14:46]  * mneptok re-enables the iHumble irssi plugin
[14:49] <pangolin> no need, next council is in two years.
[14:49] <pangolin> should be good till then
[14:49] <pangolin> morning!
[14:50] <mneptok> HI!
[14:51] <mneptok> ca va?
[14:51] <pangolin> fais pas mal
[14:51] <Myrtti> morning UTG
[14:51] <Myrtti> UGT even
[14:51] <mneptok> "Ugly Guy Team?"
[14:51] <Myrtti> Universal Greeting Time
[14:52] <pangolin> mneptok: see what doritodan did after you told him about !enter
[14:52] <mneptok> yup
[14:53]  * mneptok was going to let it slide with another warning, but that user irked the Quebeckers, and there is no hope after that.
[14:53] <pangolin> he knows the rules.
[14:54] <mneptok> not like "d - e - s - o - l - e - e" would be better
[14:54] <pangolin> now trolling -ot
[14:55] <mneptok> faboolouse
[15:47] <mneptok> @mark #ubuntu Cinober given the !away factoid.
[17:39] <Pici> Someone may want to keep an eye on freenodiz.  I have a meeting in a little bit.
[17:41] <Myrtti> will do
[18:35] <h00k> I have a meeting, can someone keep an eye on titanes in #ubuntu?
[18:35] <h00k> oCean: thanks ^
[18:35] <oCean> on it
[19:11] <Pici> what a waste of time.
[19:43] <BarkingFish> Evening all.  I need to ask for some help from the ops here.  One of them in #ubuntu-offtopic has told me that I'm not allowed to obfuscate or obliterate any obscene language that I use.  The problem is, I'm dyslexic, and I use a spellchecker plugin in my irc client.  My plugin automatically censors me if I swear, replacing the obscenity with [censored] or [censored by the netfaeries] if it's particularly serious.
[19:43] <AlanBell> sounds like it would be best not to swear at all then
[19:43] <BarkingFish> Apparently, I'm not welcome to talk in #ubuntu-offtopic if I have that switched on. And to switch it off, I also need to switch my spellchecker off, which will lead to a likely stream of utter gobbledegook.
[19:44] <BarkingFish> AlanBell: There is a reason for it, I don't just do it here, I do it in real life as well, and often don't realise.
[19:44] <BarkingFish> That's why I keep the spellchecker on and the censor in place
[19:45] <oCean> BarkingFish: we ask of all our visitors not to use such language
[19:45] <oCean> some of them will fully or partially obfuscate such language, but that's still not acceptable since we aim to be family friendly and professional channels
[19:46] <oCean> there's nothing professional about obfuscating or censoring your foul language
[19:46] <BarkingFish> I don't censor it. My spellchecker does, and I assure you, without that switched on, I'd have been banned from this network years ago
[19:46] <oCean> if you can't abstain from it altogether, I suggest you learn to interact with people in a professional/family friendly manner first
[19:47] <h00k> Giving dyslexia as being a reading disorder, it shouldn't have an effect on your ability to keep your typed language appropriate
[19:47] <BarkingFish> So basically, unless I can cure myself from Aspergers Syndrome and Tourettes, I'm not welcome, do I have that correct?
[19:47] <AlanBell> the point is that obfuscating it doesn't really make it much better because we all know what it is that is being obfuscated
[19:48] <h00k> Also, tourette's is a physial tic, as well as a phonic tic, and shouldn't effect your ability to keep typed langage appropriate
[19:49] <BarkingFish> h00k: I type whatever comes into my head. If it happens to include a swear, that comes out too.  If I could control it, i wouldn't need a censor in place
[19:50] <AlanBell> I suggest not hitting return until you have read what you are going to say, if there are words in it that you are surprised you have typed then remove them first
[19:50] <Flannel> BarkingFish: Perhaps re-reading what you wrote before hitting enter would be something to try out
[19:50] <BarkingFish> h00k: Are you also going to tell me, as others do, that Aspergers means I'm autistic? :)
[19:51] <BarkingFish> i suppose in a way I am...
[19:51] <h00k> BarkingFish: I'm not diagnosing you with anything, no.
[19:52] <BarkingFish> I will look at what you both said, AlanBell and Flannel - if it means that's the only way I can use the channels, so be it.
[19:54] <BarkingFish> as for the dyslexia, it's a part of the AS, h00k - along with OCD and various other things, which is why I need the spellchecker to pick up where I go wrong - I suppose I can still use it if I can figure out how to turn the system censor off.
[19:55] <BarkingFish> anyhow, no point in arguing the toss, I'll deal with it.
[19:55] <BarkingFish> thanks anyway
[19:57] <Myrtti> h00k: ♥
[19:59] <h00k> Myrtti: D'aw, thanks
[20:50] <elky> what next? "i can replace it with an obfuscated swear word, but my aspergers and tourettes stops me replacing it with a decent word"
[20:50] <elky> "my client has aspergers and tourettes too" perhaps?