| mhall119 | follow Ubuntu TV on Google+ https://plus.google.com/104659991254860976283 | 04:10 |
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| jussi | Morning all | 07:41 |
| jussi | Is it planned a version of the TV unity will come out with precise? | 07:41 |
| === AlanChicken is now known as AlanBell | ||
| popey | jussi: no | 07:47 |
| jussi | popey: when do you expect it to be available ? | 08:01 |
| jussi | in alpha format | 08:01 |
| popey | soon | 08:31 |
| * AlanBell wonders how much of a working demo it is at CES | 08:53 | |
| AlanBell | and who it is that likes "in the night garden" | 08:55 |
| AlanBell | iggle piggle is the jar jar binks of children's TV | 08:55 |
| mcbaine1 | mornin' all | 09:47 |
| popey | heh AlanBell | 09:55 |
| popey | AlanBell: there is some functionality working, but not a huge amount | 09:57 |
| popey | code will be available 'soon' | 09:57 |
| popey | soon as in hours not weeks | 09:57 |
| AlanBell | ok, so stuff does move | 09:57 |
| popey | yes | 09:57 |
| popey | its not static, its not just a video | 09:57 |
| AlanBell | cool | 09:57 |
| popey | if I wasn't in Budapest I'd offer for you to come over to my house to see it :D | 09:58 |
| dmj726 | popey: this is great news! | 10:42 |
| === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-tv to: Welcome to #ubuntu-tv | http://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UbuntuTV | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UbuntuTV-Issues | This channel is logged to http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | http://ubuntu.com/tv | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq_WaOLjdyQ | ||
| MobileDruif | I hope Canonical has had a good laugh about everyone in this channel thinking of having any influence. It's a shame that everything is developed already in secrecy | 12:07 |
| AlanBell | nice | 12:07 |
| AlanBell | MobileDruif: relax | 12:07 |
| AlanBell | it isn't already developed in secrecy | 12:07 |
| MobileDruif | At least that's my idea of how it went | 12:08 |
| MobileDruif | AlanBell: tell me how I *should* look at the current developments? (Developments being the announcements made at CES/the released code?) | 12:10 |
| MobileDruif | Can you* | 12:23 |
| mhall119 | did everyone follow https://plus.google.com/104659991254860976283 yet? | 12:23 |
| MobileDruif | mhall119: I do | 12:24 |
| daker | mhall119, the images are real or just mockups ? | 12:26 |
| mhall119 | daker: a real demo | 12:26 |
| mhall119 | daker: you can watch the video at http://www.ubuntu.com/tv | 12:26 |
| MobileDruif | daker: newest omgubuntu article apparently has a vid | 12:27 |
| MobileDruif | Haha | 12:27 |
| daker | mhall119, sorry but they fail at product launch! | 12:28 |
| MobileDruif | Anyhow, anyone capable of explaining the situation to me? | 12:29 |
| daker | mhall119, see the difference http://www.google.com/tv/ | 12:29 |
| mhall119 | daker: they're not pitching it to consumers, they're pitching it to manufacturers | 12:33 |
| daker | it's the same,you are launching a product ツ | 12:34 |
| daker | mhall119, it will work on my 32" LG LCD-TV ? | 12:38 |
| MobileDruif | Does it have 2GB of disk space and 1GB of RAM? | 12:40 |
| daker | the TV ? | 12:42 |
| MobileDruif | Yeah, what else? | 12:43 |
| daker | it depends on the OEM | 12:44 |
| MobileDruif | http://www.ubuntu.com/tv/features-and-specs | 12:45 |
| mhall119 | code is up: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv | 12:49 |
| mhall119 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing | 12:49 |
| jussi | mhall119: yay! | 12:50 |
| jussi | mhall119: are there packages yet? | 12:50 |
| jussi | ie. a ppa? | 12:50 |
| mhall119 | jussi: not that I see | 12:52 |
| jussi | :( | 12:52 |
| mhall119 | jussi: there wasn't even a bzr branch last night | 12:52 |
| jussi | mhall119: yeah, I just figured whoever wrote that code mightve actually packaged it also | 12:52 |
| mhall119 | jussi: I can ask around, but since they're at CES I may not get a response | 12:53 |
| jussi | mhall119: ok | 12:53 |
| jussi | branch wont check out for me :/ | 12:54 |
| jussi | Permission denied (publickey). | 12:54 |
| jussi | bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist. | 12:54 |
| mhall119 | weird, let me try | 12:55 |
| jussi | popey: also, you need to update the entry message: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots (re: ubuntulog) | 12:56 |
| mhall119 | jussi: worked for me, maybe it was just a connection issue? | 12:56 |
| spikeb | is there a FAQ for ubuntu tv yet? | 12:56 |
| jussi | mhall119: no, Ive tried several times and the message says something about pubkey | 12:56 |
| mhall119 | yeah, that's an ssh error... | 12:57 |
| mhall119 | have you tried bzr launchpad-login? | 12:57 |
| jussi | I hadnt, but just did, returns my user (jussi01) and then the other thing fails | 12:58 |
| jussi | mhall119: its not somehow limited to employees is it? | 12:59 |
| mhall119 | jussi: launchpad says it's public | 12:59 |
| jussi | hrm | 13:00 |
| jussi | wonder whats happening there. | 13:00 |
| jussi | conspiricy, Ive been blocked!!! :P | 13:00 |
| mhall119 | do you have your ssh pubkey on launchpad? | 13:00 |
| jussi | hrm, this is the work machine, lemme check. | 13:00 |
| mhall119 | jussi: also, try viewing http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv/ubuntutv/trunk/files | 13:01 |
| jussi | ahh bollocks, this machine isnt on LP. lemme upload it. | 13:01 |
| jussi | and yeah, browsing works | 13:02 |
| jussi | mhall119: right, works now. thanks for the troubleshooting :) | 13:04 |
| mhall119 | np | 13:05 |
| mhall119 | I just had to bribe an official to look the other way so I could let you in on the conspiracy ;) | 13:06 |
| jussi | lol | 13:06 |
| jussi | ooh, theres a debian folder there... | 13:07 |
| MobileDruif | Haha | 13:07 |
| jussi | I wonder if we can stick this into a PPA some how... ? | 13:07 |
| mhall119 | worth a shot | 13:07 |
| MobileDruif | Should be doable | 13:08 |
| MobileDruif | It's already on lp right? | 13:08 |
| jussi | yup | 13:09 |
| jussi | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv | 13:09 |
| MobileDruif | Can't it be put in a ppa from that page? | 13:09 |
| spikeb | ooh, a video lens for unity. cool. | 13:10 |
| MobileDruif | Might be nice | 13:10 |
| mhall119 | MobileDruif: PPAs are only for people and teams | 13:11 |
| MobileDruif | And ubuntu-tv isn't a team? | 13:12 |
| mhall119 | oh, you're right | 13:12 |
| * mhall119 hasn't had his morning coffee yet | 13:12 | |
| mhall119 | then yes, we could make a ppa for the team and host packages there | 13:13 |
| * MobileDruif neither | 13:13 | |
| MobileDruif | ;D | 13:14 |
| * jussi smiles at mhall119 | 13:14 | |
| * MobileDruif gives mhall119 his morning coffee ;) | 13:15 | |
| * jussi waits for mhall119 to provide the ppa line and an eta for packages built :D | 13:18 | |
| jussi | anyways, local copy building now | 13:21 |
| jussi | also: sudo apt-get install debhelper dh-translations cmake pkg-config libqt4-dev libqt4-opengl-dev libglib2.0-dev libwnck-3-dev libpango1.0-dev libqtgconf-dev libdconf-qt-dev libqtbamf-dev libqtdee-dev libdbusmenu-qt-dev libx11-dev libindicator3-dev libgtk-3-dev libutouch-geis-dev libstartup-notification0-dev libunity-core-4.0-dev libnux-1.0-dev libxi-dev | 13:22 |
| jussi | theres the build deps for it on one line ;) | 13:22 |
| MobileDruif | Ghehe | 13:22 |
| jussi | mhall119: also, would be nice to have the bug tracker, translations, blueprints and answers opened for this | 13:23 |
| MobileDruif | Oeh, translations :D | 13:24 |
| MobileDruif | We already had a request for that :P | 13:24 |
| sladen | hello people | 13:25 |
| sladen | seems the CES thing has hit the interwebs | 13:25 |
| sladen | MobileDruif: and what makes you think you haven't or are not having an influence? | 13:25 |
| dmj726 | Actually, it looks like a lot of the ideas discussed in this channel and mailing list have been taken into consideration | 13:26 |
| * jussi waves to sladen | 13:26 | |
| jussi | sladen: when are you coming to visit me again ? | 13:27 |
| sladen | jussi: remember that time I came up there (in a rush, admittedly), bumped into the son of the person I'd gone to visit in Muhos | 13:27 |
| dmj726 | sladen: might I be accurate on that? Otherwise there seems to have been a lot of ideas come up with independently | 13:28 |
| MobileDruif | That might be so, but still: because everything code-wise was developed without any info one way our the other made me feel left out | 13:28 |
| sladen | jussi: shall be back for Sauna at some point. Is it snowing there? | 13:28 |
| dmj726 | MobileDruif: I can understand where you're coming from there | 13:28 |
| MobileDruif | Or* | 13:29 |
| dmj726 | definitely digging the design though | 13:29 |
| sladen | MobileDruif: what you're seeing is a prototype/mockup/test-framework. It will then be possible to take those design ideas, interate/discuss/evolve them more easily now there's something public and demoable and work on the implementation itself | 13:29 |
| sladen | MobileDruif: if you look around this channel there are people like Kaleo who is suddenly very relieved and jumping for joy when I saw him a few minutes ago | 13:30 |
| sladen | dmj726: yes, there are people listening in the channel even if they've not been able to say much on certain subjects | 13:31 |
| dmj726 | definitely glad to see the second screen and third party applications aspects included | 13:32 |
| MobileDruif | The last few months have been eerily quiet. We've asked for more direction from above, but nothing was given. Except Marks blog-post saying we had some great ideas (even referring to our feature list), have we been stagnant. I think it's a shame that it's only been going in one-direction. I'm just letting my frustrations speak now. | 13:35 |
| MobileDruif | I'm not one to hold a grudge, so make a clean slate and continue with this great project | 13:36 |
| dmj726 | Yeah, I think a lot of us would like to get feedback on what Canonical people are thinking and also start hacking on the platform ourselves | 13:36 |
| dmj726 | this release definitely helps on that front | 13:37 |
| MobileDruif | sladen: I hope you understand where I'm coming from | 13:38 |
| jussi | sladen: excellent. and yes, we have snow (~50cm) but no, its not snowing currently | 13:39 |
| sladen | MobileDruif: yes, the CES deadline, was a bit fixed. Things were focused on getting something (based on the ideas at UDS, and since) ready for CES. Which is a pretty short amount of time (2 months since end of UDS, of which the holiday eat quite a chunk) | 13:40 |
| jussi | so, quick question for those in the know. Ive made this and installed it, is it now a selection from login? or? | 13:40 |
| sladen | jussi: what's "this" ? | 13:40 |
| sladen | jussi: links, URLs, ? | 13:40 |
| * jussi points to scroll back and adds: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv | 13:41 | |
| MobileDruif | Code on the ubuntu-tv lp sladen | 13:41 |
| * jussi says meh and goes to try | 13:42 | |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: hi! | 13:46 |
| Kaleo | hi others! | 13:46 |
| MobileDruif | Kaleo: Aloha :) | 13:46 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: I am sorry the code was private for a few weeks | 13:46 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: it's kind of an experiment thing | 13:47 |
| mhall119 | wow, the channel is starting to get busy now! | 13:47 |
| MobileDruif | ...and the conversation? | 13:47 |
| jussi | meh, doesnt seem to be there :( | 13:47 |
| jussi | Kaleo: how do I start it? | 13:47 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: and I also am sorry about the lack of presence from me here | 13:48 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: the reason is very plain: working extremely hard for a few weeks | 13:48 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: (I had my girlfriend complaining every day..) | 13:49 |
| MobileDruif | Kaleo: sorry to hear that your girlfriend complained everyday | 13:50 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: she is relieved now :) | 13:51 |
| sladen | ahem | 13:51 |
| MobileDruif | Woops, wrong button | 13:51 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: :) | 13:51 |
| jussi | so seriously, no one can tell me how to start it? | 13:52 |
| jussi | Kaleo: mhall119 ? | 13:52 |
| Kaleo | jussi: I can! | 13:53 |
| jussi | Kaleo: please do! :D | 13:53 |
| Kaleo | jussi: though it is in the wiki no? | 13:53 |
| jussi | Kaleo: Ive compiled (cmake, make make install). what now? | 13:53 |
| jussi | Kaleo: which wiki where? | 13:54 |
| Kaleo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing | 13:54 |
| Kaleo | there :) | 13:54 |
| jussi | the readme was very vague. :( | 13:54 |
| Kaleo | does that help? | 13:54 |
| MobileDruif | jussi: /Contributing I believe | 13:54 |
| jussi | Kaleo: Im reading now. perhaps worth adding that url into the readme file? | 13:55 |
| jussi | also, what does ~s do in the bzr command? | 13:56 |
| Saviq | jussi, it's not an option - it's just the name of the team | 13:58 |
| MobileDruif | It's gonna be merged with unity-2d | 13:58 |
| MobileDruif | ? | 13:58 |
| jussi | oh :( | 13:59 |
| MobileDruif | Saviq: I see you're hard at work with the wiki pages? | 13:59 |
| jussi | so... what the difference in code from bzr branch "lp:~ubuntu-tv/ubuntutv/trunk" and "bzr branch lp:~s-team/ubuntutv/trunk" if any? | 14:00 |
| Saviq | jussi, we just had to move the code, sorry for that | 14:00 |
| Saviq | there is no ~ubuntu-tv/ubuntutv/{trunk,unity-lens-video} anymore | 14:00 |
| jussi | oh, so I grabbed before it was moved then. | 14:00 |
| jussi | there si no difference in code though? | 14:01 |
| sladen | jussi: the 's-team' is a bit like the 'a-team', just an abbreviation of something else | 14:01 |
| Saviq | jussi, just go `bzr pull --remember ~s-team/ubuntutv/trunk` there | 14:01 |
| mhall119 | Kaleo: Saviq: can we get an actual LP project for this? | 14:01 |
| jussi | Saviq: thanks | 14:01 |
| Saviq | mhall119, most of it will get merged back into unity-2d | 14:01 |
| Saviq | mhall119, and the project is simply "ubuntutv" | 14:02 |
| mhall119 | Saviq: ok | 14:02 |
| mhall119 | thanks | 14:02 |
| Saviq | we couldn't connect lp:ubuntutv yet, we'll do that soon | 14:02 |
| MobileDruif | Can there be anything said about ubuntu phone now your all chatty again? | 14:03 |
| sladen | MobileDruif: you could try asking in #ubuntu-phone | 14:04 |
| sladen | ;-) | 14:04 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: the phone is definitely not my arena :) | 14:07 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: I would guess that this would be the last platform we tackme | 14:07 |
| Kaleo | tackle | 14:07 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: I feel like we have so much to get on with already | 14:07 |
| jussi | Kaleo: strange question here. If Im running kde can I just run it? or do I need to be running metacity? | 14:11 |
| Kaleo | jussi: it should be fine | 14:11 |
| Kaleo | jussi: mileage may vary performance wise depending on your window manage | 14:11 |
| Kaleo | rr | 14:11 |
| jussi | ok, lemme try it :) | 14:11 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/MergePlan | 14:12 |
| Kaleo | MobileDruif: document that got created 5 minutes ago :) | 14:12 |
| MobileDruif | I know ;) | 14:12 |
| MobileDruif | I'm subscribed to every page subsequent of UbuntuTV, so I also get notified about new pages | 14:13 |
| Saviq | nerochiaro, plan is great | 14:13 |
| nerochiaro | Saviq: Kaleo: any ideas on the TODOs that are in there ? | 14:14 |
| nerochiaro | i suppose i can start tackling point #1 anyway | 14:15 |
| nerochiaro | Saviq: Kaleo: how do we go review-wise for this work ? | 14:15 |
| Saviq | we got lp:ubuntutv | 14:16 |
| jussi | Kaleo: seems it didnt work. loaded my normal unity over the top of kde (I have unity installed here as an alternate) | 14:18 |
| tsdgeos | jussi: you probably need to shut-down plasma-desktop | 14:18 |
| jussi | ok, can I run this from a tty ? | 14:19 |
| nerochiaro | you should be able to | 14:19 |
| jussi | ok, lemme try that | 14:20 |
| Saviq | jussi, what does `gsettings get com.canonical.Unity2d form-factor` say? | 14:20 |
| mhall119 | Saviq: do you guys have it doing form-factor auto-detection to determine what variant of Unity to run? | 14:21 |
| Saviq | mhall119, not yet | 14:21 |
| Saviq | jussi, actually make that `dconf read /com/canonical/unity-2d/form-factor` | 14:22 |
| MobileDruif | Anyhow I'm going offline, battery is getting low | 14:34 |
| jussi | Saviq: returns nothing | 14:34 |
| jussi | anyways, Im off now. 9 months pregnant wife waiting for me at home ;) | 14:36 |
| jussi | please leave me messages tho | 14:36 |
| sladen | jussi: wow. Best wishes for all 2 (or 3 if it arrives) of you | 14:37 |
| Saviq | jussi, did you follow the point about setting that dconf key? | 14:40 |
| Saviq | anyone else managed to run it? or - even more interesting - did not manage to run it for some reason? | 14:41 |
| daker | hello Kaleo | 14:52 |
| Saviq | daker, he's not here right now | 14:53 |
| daker | ツ | 14:54 |
| mhall119 | Kaleo: Saviq: do we have any information about the remote control for Ubuntu TV? | 16:14 |
| rsalveti | Kaleo: hey, first issue I saw at the instructions, you're using xbmc 10 to create the metadata | 16:34 |
| rsalveti | we're using the 11 release, that we have running on arm | 16:34 |
| rsalveti | they should be compatible, but not fully sure | 16:34 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, they are | 16:36 |
| jussi | Saviq: I did run it. it returned nothing. | 16:37 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: great | 16:37 |
| jussi | Saviq: In anycase, Im off to the hospital with the wife - hopefully when I return there will be 3 of us :D | 16:37 |
| Saviq | jussi, awesome! | 16:37 |
| * jussi hugs Saviq and runs off | 16:38 | |
| mhall119 | jussi: congrats! | 16:40 |
| jussi | mhall119: not yet! :D | 16:40 |
| mhall119 | jussi: I thought you were gone, assumed you'd get that after :) | 16:41 |
| jussi | mhall119: Im jusyt leaving :P | 16:41 |
| mhall119 | jussi: remember to breath, and don't lock your knees | 16:42 |
| mhall119 | the rest is up to her ;) | 16:42 |
| jussi | lol | 16:42 |
| MrChrisDruif | Aloha | 17:22 |
| maxolasersquad | Will/can Ubuntu-TV handle ISOs? | 18:05 |
| dmj726 | maxolasersquad: my guess would be yes either out of the box or with additional software installed | 18:06 |
| maxolasersquad | Cool, I've been ripping my DVDs since my kids like to scratch them up. | 18:07 |
| maxolasersquad | Ripping to ISO that is. | 18:07 |
| dmj726 | I'm not from Canonical | 18:07 |
| dmj726 | but they would have to prevent installation of medibuntu and vlc to stop the ability to play ISOs | 18:08 |
| dmj726 | My guess is that it will behave like regular Ubuntu with a special UI | 18:08 |
| tgm4883 | dmj726, AFAIK, it's going to be Unity 2d | 18:09 |
| dmj726 | tgm4883: basically the backend internals will most likely be little changed | 18:10 |
| dmj726 | so things like gstreamer and so forth | 18:10 |
| nerochiaro | Saviq: do you know if revision 824 from lp:unity-2d is essentially the same as revision 848 from the shell branch ? ("make scrollbar abstract" is the title of the commits).It looks like they are the same to me. | 18:14 |
| nerochiaro | Saviq: rev 872 also seems to do again the same thing too | 18:15 |
| nerochiaro | Saviq: however in trunk the scrollbar ends up in libunity-2d while il the shell branch it ends up in shell/common. what's the right place in the end ? | 18:15 |
| popey | hi pleia2 | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | hello | 18:19 |
| tgm4883 | -hi | 18:19 |
| sladen | hello pleia2 | 18:21 |
| sladen | pleia2: greetings from Buda, or is it pest | 18:22 |
| nerochiaro | or both | 18:22 |
| pleia2 | depends on the side of the river :) | 18:22 |
| popey | sladen: decided what to do for food? | 18:25 |
| sladen | popey: nope | 18:30 |
| sladen | popey: are you still hanging around? | 18:30 |
| sladen | popey: and are you sitll going to be there in 5 minutes? | 18:31 |
| popey | i am in my room | 18:33 |
| popey | sladen: ping me before you go out | 18:37 |
| sladen | popey: okay, hat, coat etc | 18:38 |
| popey | sladen: 5 mins, see you in reception | 18:40 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: Kaleo: unfortunately the current qtmobility is using video texturing just for GL, not for GLES | 21:11 |
| rsalveti | but luckily qtmobility 1.2 also has GLES support, but specifically to maemo 6 atm | 21:11 |
| rsalveti | because of the proprietary extensions | 21:12 |
| rsalveti | I'm discussing that with robclark, as he created one extension we currently use at XBMC, to see if we can get it to work with latest qtmobility and panda | 21:12 |
| Saviq | nerochiaro, in the end - shell/common of course | 21:43 |
| Saviq | but we didn't have that common place before | 21:43 |
| Saviq | and yes, they're basically the same thing, one done upstream, the other just for tv | 21:44 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, cool | 21:44 |
| MrChrisDruif | Saviq; I'm missing the discussion? | 21:44 |
| Saviq | MrChrisDruif, I'm just reading the backlog, sorry :) | 21:45 |
| nerochiaro | Saviq: ok, i'll keep that in mind tomorrow. there are a few things to fix because the merge moves it to libunity2dprivate so i'll have to revert that | 21:45 |
| Saviq | nerochiaro, yeah | 21:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | Ghehe | 21:45 |
| * MrChrisDruif doesn't have backlog | 21:45 | |
| Saviq | poor MrChrisDruif ;) | 21:45 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yeah, I'm missing out ^_^ | 21:45 |
| Guus- | Is there anyone in here to who I could submit an idea? | 23:14 |
| rsalveti | Kaleo: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Always-Innovating-HDMI-Dongle | 23:28 |
| rsalveti | similar with a pandaboard | 23:29 |
| rsalveti | would be nice and probably easy to have ubuntu tv running on it :-) | 23:29 |
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