[03:31] <arcticchill360> hey
[03:32] <arcticchill360> i guess no ones here
[03:32] <arcticchill360> ok bye
[05:22] <andrew> Don't you just love drive-bys?
[05:22] <andrew> like arcticchill360?
[05:23] <andrew> Stay awhile. We don't bit!
[10:52] <JonathanD> Morning.
[11:02] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[11:12] <JonathanD> hey
[11:59] <anduril> mornin all
[12:35] <waltman> Morning.
[12:54] <jedijf> morning
[13:00] <JonathanD> hey waltman, jedijf
[15:06] <InHisName> good bit to you all
[17:11] <morecheese> anyone here into wifi security and cracking? i am a bit (or was a lot last year) and i saw a story today about WPA networks now being much easier to crack thanks to an exploit in WPS (Wi-Fi Protected Security). anyone else hear about that?
[17:11] <morecheese> apparently WPS makes your router vulnerable, which is pretty much every Linksys and Cisco access point/router
[17:11] <morecheese> and you cant turn it off i guess
[17:12] <morecheese> when i get home im checking if my belkin has it, and if it does im flashing to DD-WRT if it supports my model. if not, time for a new router.
[17:14] <morecheese> heres a link to a FB post I made: https://www.facebook.com/GeekyAdam/posts/250514835021959
[17:14] <morecheese> i set it public so u should be able to see it
[17:15] <morecheese> or just friend request me, put #ubuntu-us-pa in msg or itll probably get deleted
[17:21] <morecheese> jedijf: hey sorry just caught up on your responses to me...
[17:22] <morecheese> trying to find php file i was working with to test commenting out nanorc php line, sec...
[17:23] <morecheese> i literally forget what i was working on...
[17:26] <morecheese> made up a new test.php file. with php include *uncommented* whitespace with no text to the right of it gets highlighted. with php include line *commented* out, the highlighting doesn't show up (neither does any syntax highlighting)
[17:27] <morecheese> so it would appear my problem lies within the php include file...and any other include file that shows the whitespace highlighted
[17:28] <morecheese> geez im really filling up the channel
[17:28] <morecheese> anyways, ill check around online for an alternative php include file maybe
[17:28] <morecheese> thanks
[17:31] <jedijf> morecheese: comment out the php inclde in nanorc
[17:31] <jedijf> the rc sets up highlighting for stuff
[17:32] <morecheese> i know but then i lose all php syntax highlighting, so i need to alter the include file or find a new one...right?
[17:33] <jedijf> or that
[17:34] <morecheese> thanks for your diligent help
[20:34] <adom|afk> is there a way to stop F1 from opening help when im in a terminal?
[20:35] <adom|afk> i want to map F1 to something else in irssi, but it just opens help for gnome terminal
[20:55] <MutantTurkey> hey can users run cron scripts?
[20:55] <MutantTurkey> or create scripts for themselves
[20:57] <pleia2> crontab -e
[20:57] <pleia2> will open up the user crontab
[20:59] <MutantTurkey> pleia2: thanks :)
[21:13] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: you said something several days ago I thought I could help you with but I have no idea now what it was.
[21:14] <MutantTurkey> darn
[21:14] <MutantTurkey> :[
[21:14] <JonathanD> It may have been in #Plug
[21:14] <MutantTurkey> hmm
[21:14] <MutantTurkey> something about droid?
[21:14] <MutantTurkey> I recall talking about that
[21:14] <JonathanD> tablet.
[21:14] <MutantTurkey> right
[21:14] <JonathanD> You asked about a tablet.
[21:14] <MutantTurkey> tablets.
[21:15] <MutantTurkey> Galaxy Tab vs Ipad2
[21:15] <JonathanD> I have a little 7 inch android tablet which I love.
[21:15] <JonathanD> And my dad just got one too.
[21:15] <JonathanD> Because he loved mine so much.
[21:15] <MutantTurkey> would you call your dad a techie? my mom wants one but isn't technically inclined
[21:15] <JonathanD> My dad doesn't know his email address.
[21:16] <JonathanD> Or how to find out what it is.
[21:17] <MutantTurkey> okay cool
[21:17] <MutantTurkey> also I have a little sister, a terrible twos toddler
[21:17] <MutantTurkey> she  gets quite angry sometimes, she may throw a left hook or a few jabs at the screen
[21:17] <MutantTurkey> will it hold up?
[21:18] <MutantTurkey> also /r/philadelphia is my favorite
[21:19] <waltman> JonathanD: Interesting. How does he get people to send him email?
[21:20] <MutantTurkey> waltman: this is the same for many people I know. They have to lookup their own email
[21:20] <waltman> shocking!
[21:20] <waltman> madness!
[21:21] <MutantTurkey> blues brothers
[21:21] <waltman> Life must be so different for muggles.
[21:21] <MutantTurkey> I neds more
[21:21] <waltman> country blues brothers AND western blues brothers?
[21:21] <MutantTurkey> waltman: today at work my boss asks me in a very heavy russia/romaiana accent saying "how to take this away and points at her homepage"
[21:21] <MutantTurkey> took like 20 minutes to figure out she wanted to change it to anyother page
[21:22] <waltman> "click on something"?
[21:22] <waltman> where do you work?
[21:23] <waltman> oh right, a turkey farm :)
[21:23] <MutantTurkey> at Flori's Cafe'
[21:23] <MutantTurkey> it's in Willow Grove
[21:23] <MutantTurkey> up the street from the pacs meeting place giant
[21:24] <waltman> and your boss doesn't know how to use a web browser?
[21:24] <MutantTurkey> nope
[21:24] <MutantTurkey> not really
[21:24] <MutantTurkey> I dunno
[21:24] <waltman> wow
[21:24] <waltman> how is she at, say, breathing?
[21:24] <MutantTurkey> she watches romainian soap operas all day
[21:24] <MutantTurkey> probably has trouble, she smokes to much
[21:24] <waltman> nice work if you can get it
[21:25] <MutantTurkey> the place has great food
[21:25] <waltman> is her name Flori?
[21:25] <MutantTurkey> yes
[21:25] <MutantTurkey> :-)
[21:26] <waltman> wild guess!
[21:26] <waltman> heading home &
[21:26] <MutantTurkey> pleia2: with cron, can I ask it to run a command with arguments? like */10 * * * * /usr/bin/foo -b blarg honk honk blarg
[21:27] <pleia2> yes
[21:27] <MutantTurkey> thanks
[21:29] <MutantTurkey> pleia2: what about piping? :-)
[21:29] <pleia2> MutantTurkey: you should really be doing tests to learn how to use it :)
[21:30] <pleia2> but yes, pipes are fine
[21:30] <MutantTurkey> :-) it's on an already deployed server
[21:30] <MutantTurkey> I don't want to mess with it
[21:32] <JonathanD> waltman: he makes me tell them.
[21:32] <JonathanD> Or he just doesn't.
[21:32] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: the one I have probably would. It's solidly built.
[21:32] <JonathanD> And not overly expensive.
[21:33] <JonathanD> AND it fits in my jacket pocket.
[21:33] <MutantTurkey> wow cool
[21:34] <JonathanD> AND they're out of stock everywhere. Sorry, dad got the last one.
[21:34] <JonathanD> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16858161002 is what I have.
[21:34] <MutantTurkey> :[
[21:34] <MutantTurkey> I am looking at 10" ones anyhow
[21:35] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: don't like 10" :/
[21:35] <JonathanD> They don't fit in pocket.
[21:35] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: crissi has an ipad now, too.
[21:35] <MutantTurkey> women have large purses
[21:35] <JonathanD> Yeah. She keeps hers in her purse. actually.
[21:36] <adom> ASUS EEE Transformer is amazing. <-- my $.02
[21:36] <JonathanD> Apparently my dad was up til midnight playing angry birds.
[21:36] <JonathanD> adom: looks it to me, I didn't want to spend that kind of money.
[21:36] <JonathanD> The wintec was $200, the ipad we didn't pay for. Work gave them out as part of our christmas bonus.
[21:37] <adom> JonathanD: yeah its not the cheapest, but for the money compared to others its a heck of a machine
[21:37] <adom> the Kindle Fire is only like $200 I think
[21:37] <JonathanD> It is.
[21:37] <JonathanD> It's not bad, either. My nieces have those.
[21:37] <adom> but yeah, optional full keyboard for the Transformer is what got me
[21:37] <adom> plus the keyboard has its own battery
[21:37] <JonathanD> adom: I've realized if I'm somewhere I can use a keyboard, I'd rather pull out my thinkpad.
[21:38] <adom> so if your tablet is going dead, plug in the keyboard dock and you've got 6 more hours
[21:38] <adom> well
[21:38] <adom> its just nice to have in a pinch
[21:38] <JonathanD> and if I'm not, the tablet is "good enough"
[21:38] <JonathanD> adom: I also have a full size folding pocket keyboard.
[21:38] <JonathanD> for my phone and teblet.
[21:38] <JonathanD> *tablet
[21:38] <adom> you're at a coffee shop, work calls, servers down you need to do some commandline remote stuff. you pull out the keyboard dock base and go at it
[21:38] <JonathanD> Got it at the thrift store. $18.
[21:39] <adom> JonathanD: oh cool
[21:39] <adom> lucky
[21:39] <JonathanD> They have had some sweet tech deals at the thrift store lately.
[21:39] <JonathanD> LCDs for $25. Sometimes less.
[21:39] <adom> everyone talks about finding geek stuff at thrift stores. up here in shithole Erie, our thrift storese have nothing but old sweaters, stained couches, and TVs from the 70s.
[21:40] <JonathanD> In one day I got 2 LCDs and the keyboard.
[21:40] <adom> never, NEVER seen an LCD at a thrift store
[21:40] <JonathanD> The LCDs were $13 and $6.50
[21:40] <adom> a few CRT monitors *maybe*
[21:40] <adom> nice
[21:40] <JonathanD> 17 inch
[21:40] <JonathanD> 1280x1024
[21:40] <adom> wow
[21:40] <JonathanD> Servicible, especially for that price.
[21:40] <adom> thats decent
[21:40] <adom> id have a wall of LCDs
[21:40] <JonathanD> The 6.50 on has a scratch on the glass.
[21:41] <JonathanD> Can't tell when it's on.
[21:41] <adom> meh, log watcher
[21:41] <JonathanD> I actually bought them to sell to people at work.
[21:41] <JonathanD> ;P
[21:41] <adom> ha
[21:41] <JonathanD> right now they're down in my workshop though.
[21:41] <JonathanD> and I'm slightly tempted just to keep them.
[21:42] <JonathanD> We ended up spending over $100 that day at the thrift store and filled the whole car pretty much.
[21:42] <MutantTurkey> I love my thinkpad
[21:42] <MutantTurkey> :-)
[21:42] <MutantTurkey> loveee it
[21:42] <JonathanD> Thinkpads rock.
[21:42] <MutantTurkey> wish I got the upgrade screen thouhg
[21:42] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: I found one here, in the trash.
[21:42] <MutantTurkey> my viewing angle sucks HARD.
[21:42] <MutantTurkey> and it double sucks because watching movies is unbearable basically
[21:42] <JonathanD> Gave it to josh.
[21:42] <MutantTurkey> I have the x220
[21:43] <MutantTurkey> my mom loves it. she's rocking a 8 year old Dell business lappy
[21:43] <MutantTurkey> which is chugging along amazingly
[21:43] <JonathanD> I have a T61, T60, T42, and A21m.
[21:43] <MutantTurkey> what do you think of the R series
[21:43] <JonathanD> Always carry a spare, I say.
[21:43] <JonathanD> I've never had an R.
[21:43] <MutantTurkey> and what do you think about the lenovo outlet
[21:43] <JonathanD> I've never purchased from the outlet personally.
[21:43] <MutantTurkey> okay
[21:43] <MutantTurkey> :-)
[21:43] <JonathanD> But I've worked with outlet machines, no issues.
[21:44] <JonathanD> I also have an x200 tablet (on loan)
[21:44] <JonathanD> Which is a nifty little machine. If only touch worked on unity...
[21:45] <adom> i have a T61 which is my DJing/music laptop...VirtualDJ and midi turntables. its all in a "gig backpack" with DJ headphones and audio cords.
[21:45] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: I've found lenovo hasn't really made things worse.
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> I hate unity
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: I am not totally impressed with my lappy
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> it's broken
[21:45] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: what lappy?
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> top part of the screen is cracked
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> my x220
[21:45] <JonathanD> oh
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> I haven't sent it back yet
[21:45] <JonathanD> I think you mentioned that.
[21:45] <JonathanD> a long time ago.
[21:45] <MutantTurkey> because I am to damned dependent on it
[21:46] <MutantTurkey> yeah.
[21:46] <MutantTurkey> :/
[21:46] <MutantTurkey> I have a 2 year warranty though
[21:46] <MutantTurkey> so.
[21:46] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: you could borrow one of mine.
[21:46] <adom> the only complaint i have for my T61 is that the left control button is to the right of the function button, which i ALWAYS hit thinking its control
[21:46] <JonathanD> I've chipped a few pieces of plastic off my 61 now.
[21:46] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: I also am having trouble finding who to call
[21:46] <MutantTurkey> the support numbers are like hard to locate
[21:46] <MutantTurkey> no easy info
[21:46] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: remind me later, I'll help you out.
[21:47] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: I think you can call IBMs support number, still.
[21:47] <JonathanD> and get to the right place.
[21:47] <MutantTurkey> okay cool
[21:47] <JonathanD> Depending on the warrenty, IBM techs service it.
[21:47] <MutantTurkey> i've got to figure it out soon
[21:47] <MutantTurkey> I just pulled out the original box so hopefully I can find the info pamphlet also
[21:48] <JonathanD> 1–800–426–7378
[21:48] <JonathanD> Try that. At worse they'll tell you they don't support that.
[21:48] <JonathanD> But I think there are still interconnects between them.
[21:48] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: and seriously, if you want to borrow something while it's serviced, let me know.
[21:49] <MutantTurkey> I will do
[21:49] <JonathanD> I don't have a spare cord, but yours should work with the T60
[21:49] <MutantTurkey> ok
[21:49] <JonathanD> if you have a yellow plug, anyway.
[21:49] <MutantTurkey> does it run linux windows what?
[21:49] <MutantTurkey> yellow plug = check
[21:49] <JonathanD> well, I'm putting the factory disk back in it tonight.
[21:50] <JonathanD> So it'll be the factory build, Xp probably.
[21:51] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: if so you can wipe the main disk, just leave the recovery partition in case I sell it or something later.
[21:52] <MutantTurkey> are you kidding? I love XP
[21:52] <MutantTurkey> and are you selling it?
[21:52] <MutantTurkey> I would possibly interested in purchasing it
[21:53] <JonathanD> I might be.
[21:53] <JonathanD> I've been keeping it as a backup.
[21:53] <MutantTurkey> okay well then keep it
[21:53] <MutantTurkey> :-)
[21:53] <JonathanD> Like you, I would die if my laptop failed.
[21:53] <JonathanD> :p
[21:53] <MutantTurkey> I can't stand using my desktop anymore
[21:53] <JonathanD> It's my whole life on here.
[21:53] <MutantTurkey> actually its just collecting dust.
[21:53] <MutantTurkey> Likewise
[21:54] <JonathanD> The only thing I don't do is game. Thats on the desktop.
[21:54] <MutantTurkey> makes sense
[21:54] <JonathanD> desktops getting a new hardrive tonight :)
[21:54] <MutantTurkey> the eraserhead isn't good for shooter games
[21:54] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: works pretty well for me...
[21:55] <MutantTurkey> really?
[21:55] <JonathanD> MutantTurkey: it's less precise, but you have more range.
[21:55] <JonathanD> So it depends on the game.
[21:55] <MutantTurkey> maybe I'm still a padewon
[21:55] <JonathanD> by range I mean, you don't have to lift the mouse like a desktop
[21:55] <MutantTurkey> I stick with the keys most of the time
[21:55] <MutantTurkey> right that is a advantage
[22:30] <InHisName> Good evening all
[22:32] <MutantTurkey> wohoo my work today did an 64% performance increase to our homepage for drexel!!!
[22:33] <MutantTurkey> BOSS!
[22:33] <MutantTurkey> i even did a whole test script using curl and then used gnumeric to average the results
[22:33] <MutantTurkey> feeling great
[22:35] <jedijf> philly++ last weekend homicide free
[22:39] <MutantTurkey> wow
[22:41] <InHisName> souped up your boss's web site, heh, MutantTurkey ?
[22:43] <waltman> MutantTurkey: you're at drexel?
[22:44] <waltman> and you have a homepage there?
[22:44] <jedijf> waltman: your page 303'ing?
[22:44] <jedijf> 404
[22:44] <jedijf> night typing
[22:44] <MutantTurkey> waltman: working on a math project
[22:44] <MutantTurkey> for the math forum
[22:45] <MutantTurkey> waltman: doing an internship therre
[22:45] <MutantTurkey> I don't go there though
[22:45] <waltman> No, it looks ok.
[22:45] <MutantTurkey> thinking about it
[22:45] <waltman> MutantTurkey: Ah, cool. I know a lot of people who went through there.
[22:45] <MutantTurkey> http://144.118.94.210/mathimages/index.php/Main_Page  I don't think that is externally viewable
[22:45] <MutantTurkey> does it load up?
[22:45] <waltman> yep!
[22:45] <MutantTurkey> really?
[22:45] <waltman> yep!
[22:46] <MutantTurkey> should server up in 2.X seconds
[22:46] <MutantTurkey> the real one is here http://mathforum.org/mathimages/index.php/Main_Page
[22:46] <MutantTurkey> loads in like 6-7
[22:46] <waltman> Welcome all those who enjoy interesting images, to the Math Images Project!
[22:46] <MutantTurkey> the worst designed wiki of all time
[22:46] <MutantTurkey> I am doing my part to help reorganize it
[22:47] <waltman> nice
[22:50] <MutantTurkey> 64 percent in one day
[22:50] <MutantTurkey> I think i'll wait till tomorrow to announce my other bumps
[23:19] <InHisName> last modified 23 July 2010
[23:19] <InHisName> What were you changing ?
[23:20] <InHisName> some sub page ?
[23:26] <MutantTurkey> with mediawiki custom php has to be embedded with an external page
[23:26] <MutantTurkey> so basically that page never ever changes
[23:26] <MutantTurkey> because it includes another page (the real homepage)