[00:26] <xubuntu5> how do i automount drives?
[00:47] <puff> This is kind of odd. Not sure what happened, but now when I open new firefox windows, they show up in the alt-tab menu as white squared with a blue line across the top, not as firefox icons.  Existing firefox windows show up as firefox icons.
[00:49] <puff> Hm, rebooting.
[01:55] <sencha> is there a minimum requirement for memory to run the xubuntu live cd?
[01:56] <nashi> 256mb I think
[01:56] <nashi> that or 512mb
[01:56] <sencha> okay, just curious, thanks
[01:57] <sencha> I'm helping someone over in ##slackware and they said with 512 MB xubuntu didn't work
[01:57] <nashi> itll work ive done it myself
[01:57] <nashi> thats the hardware limit to many pentium 3 computers and ive run it on those a lot
[01:58] <sencha> not sure why it didn't work for them
[01:59] <nashi> linucies have lots of problems with older hardware, I know I have problems a lot with a lot of flavors on old hardware ive got a big collection here
[01:59] <nashi> things xp works great with
[02:00] <carloss> how do you set audio out to HDMI?
[02:01] <carloss> i can't find audio settings anywhere
[02:03] <nashi> you used to need to right click the volume icon in the system tray, dont know if its still like that
[02:05] <nanotube> it seems to be left-click now
[02:08] <carloss> i don't see anything about hdmi out in sound settings...
[02:08] <carloss> =/
[02:09] <nashi> its not always labeled the clearest
[02:10] <nanotube> carloss: go to sound settings -> hardware, you'll see a 'choose device to config', and at the bottom is a 'profile' dropdown
[02:10] <nanotube> some profiles list hdmi
[02:11] <carloss> from sound settings i get taken somewhere to select sound card
[02:12] <carloss> after that it tells me to list controls
[02:12] <carloss> none say hdmi
[02:12] <carloss> "no controls visible".  i try selecting controls and no hdmi
[02:12] <carloss> i remember being able to get this going on ubuntu OOTB
[05:52] <xubuntu937> Hey.  anyone else seen issues related to GVFS and Live installations?
[05:54] <xubuntu937> I just had a Live USB install (with 2GB persistence file) crap out 100%, with ext2-fs throwing all kindsof "inode deleted" errors during my final boot attempt.
[06:12] <|multipass|> how do i resotre the xubuntu login manager? kde overwrote it
[06:27] <Sebastien> Lets say i am going to install xubuntu on my old laptop, to make a file server out of it. What program should i add to it to make this possible?
[06:27] <nashi> samba
[06:28] <Sebastien> ok ty L( ill look for it
[06:28] <Sebastien> :) *
[06:39] <lighta> or nfs
[06:40] <nashi> if someone doesnt know about samba, they shouldnt use nfs.
[06:40] <_Pete_> if they doesnt know about both, what then?
[06:40] <nashi> pete what is your issue?
[06:41] <_Pete_> which one or some other you would choose, if you dont know any options ?
[06:41] <nashi> omg dude stop trolling
[06:41] <_Pete_> this is serois question
[06:41] <nashi> O.o
[06:42] <nashi> you are completely discounting what I said and deliberately misconstruing my meaning
[06:42] <nashi> Id call that trolling
[06:42] <lighta> if you don't know any yes try Samba _Pete_
[06:43] <_Pete_> hmm
[06:43] <_Pete_> if you are using only linuxes
[06:43] <_Pete_> then definatelly go to nfs
[06:43] <_Pete_> if you need to share also with windows machines, then samba
[06:44] <lighta> yes
[06:44] <_Pete_> nfs is imo much easier to setup
[06:46] <_Pete_> and it also supports fully *nix filesystem owner things, what samba doesnt
[06:48] <_Pete_> third option is to use sshfs
[06:51] <TVasEyes> _Pete_: recent samba does support all "*nix filesystem owner things" but (you're right) is more work to set up.
[06:52] <_Pete_> ok then. I stand corrected
[07:16] <_Pete_> TVasEyes: just curious, how decent it need to be?
[07:18] <TVasEyes> sorry, decent? how do you mean?
[07:19] <_Pete_> I mean from what version it has done thaT?
[07:21] <TVasEyes> (from memory) v 3.0 onwards you have unix extensions and ACLs etc (old NAS box here runs 3.0.34); the newest (v4) does Windoze AD and works as PDC.
[07:22] <_Pete_> ok nice, havent used samba lately since I only have linuxes and use nfs with those
[07:23] <TVasEyes> check out  http://www.samba.org/samba/latest_news.html
[07:24] <_Pete_> thx
[07:25] <_Pete_> just remembered I still have samba in use, merely for the reason I sometimes need to run win7 in VM
[07:25] <_Pete_> and use that to share host filesystem
[07:25] <TVasEyes> have to admit to using the Linux stuff only also, picked up the Windoze news in a recent newsletter.
[07:27] <_Pete_> lolz.. that win7 experience, if you start it in like once every second month
[07:27] <_Pete_> it's totally useless as all programs wants to update them at same time
[07:27] <nashi> user error: user too stupid.
[07:27] <TVasEyes> yeah win updates as bad as ubuntu ones.. ;)
[07:27] <nashi> Thats the SETTINGS YOU set with the programs YOU installed
[07:28] <nashi> not windows itself
[07:28] <_Pete_> what ever
[07:28] <_Pete_> but that what happens by default
[07:28] <nashi> I bet you are running a bazillion update manager hidden applets
[07:28] <nashi> and you complain about "windows" taking so much ram, when its your settings for third party apps
[07:29] <TVasEyes> nashi: in all fairness, life's too short to sift through all of the 'important' Redmond stuff it wants to do, so everybody simply hits return.
[07:29] <_Pete_> nashi: I didnt say anything windows taking ram
[07:30] <_Pete_> looks like you are making things up
[07:30] <nashi> omg troll go away
[07:30] <TVasEyes> ?
[07:30] <nashi> stop trolling me jerk
[07:30] <_Pete_> TVasEyes: yes that's true, if you just need to do some things you dont much care but just hit return to get it done
[07:30] <nashi> TVasEyes:  I find it less trouble to set stuff once, or get apps that don't do that kind of crap
[07:31] <TVasEyes> _Pete_: wow, the tone on this channel sure has changed.
[07:31] <_Pete_> hmm?
[07:32] <TVasEyes> just an observation, maybe I'm just too tired...
[09:52] <xmannn> Hello
[09:53] <xmannn> i like xubuntu but i dont like the file manager
[09:54] <xmannn> What file managr is better for xfce? exepting thunar
[09:54] <TheSheep> define "better"
[09:55] <TheSheep> if we thought that any file manager was better by thunar, it would be the default in xubuntu
[09:55] <TheSheep> s/by thunar/than thunar/
[09:56] <xmannn> a file manager like nautilus ,but for xubuntu
[09:57] <xmannn> Nautilus is better than thunar but is for gnome
[09:57] <xmannn> ?
[10:00] <xmannn> Is xfce gnome based?
[10:01] <Alan> you can use nautilus in XFCE if you really want...
[10:02] <xmannn> Nautilus is for gnome
[10:03] <Alan> nautilus is a file manager and works just fine under XFCE
[10:03] <Alan> you can even set it as your preferred file manager if you have it installed
[10:03] <Alan> in the settings manager
[10:04] <xmannn> Nautilus require some gnome dependencies
[10:04] <xmannn> So ,nautilus is for gnome
[10:05] <Alan> I'm not sure if you're being intentionally difficult... but just because it requires some gnome common libraries doesn't mean you can only use it under gnome
[10:07] <xmannn> Ok
[10:07] <Alan>   gnome-desktop3-data libexempi3 libgnome-desktop-3-2
[10:07] <Alan> that's all the dependencies i get for nautilus
[10:07] <Alan> hell, it doesn't even fight for control of the desktop or fire up gnome-settings-daemon (in xubuntu 11.10 anyway)
[10:07] <Alan> so it's actually as clean as it could possibly be
[10:07] <Alan> in fact, i think i'm switching my file manager right now, because i don't get on that well with thunar either...
[10:07] <Alan> although, gnome3's nautilus is also a bit different to gnome2's nautilus
[10:09] <xmannn> but, is xubuntu gnome2 based?
[10:09] <Alan> that makes no sense - xubuntu is XFCE-based
[10:09] <Alan> it's also ubuntu-based
[10:10] <xmannn> Is xfce gnome 2 based?
[10:10] <Alan> ubuntu 11.10 has gnome3 now, so anything from gnome that you use in XFCE will be from  gnome3
[10:10] <Alan> no, XFCE is XFCE
[10:11] <xmannn> Ok
[10:11] <Alan> XFCE uses the same graphical toolkit, if that's where you're getting confused, but it's a completely independent desktop environment
[10:13] <xmannn> Ok
[10:14] <xmannn> I will use xubuntu with nautilus file manager and some gnome applications
[10:18] <Alan> hah, i might have been wrong about it managing the desktop... it seems to have tried to do that...
[10:20] <well_laid_lawn> you need the   --no-desktop   option to use nautilus
[10:24] <Alan> well_laid_lawn: that's an awkward fix
[10:25] <Alan> well_laid_lawn: mainly because of the many different ways it could get launched...  however there is a "better" fix
[10:25] <Alan> which is to set it in dconf-editor
[10:25] <Alan> org.gnome.desktop.background.show-desktop-icons
[10:25] <Alan> check and uncheck so it's actually set
[10:25] <well_laid_lawn> I use thunar so it's not a problem for me ;)
[10:26] <Alan> unfortunately dconf-editor thinks the default is off, but the actual default is on...
[10:26] <Alan> woo, sorted.
[10:51] <Alan> this might be a silly question, but... can you get thunar to launch directories in something that isn't thunar?
[10:51] <knome> with custom actions, yes
[10:52] <Alan> i mean by default?
[10:52] <knome> nope.
[10:54] <Alan> ok
[10:54] <Alan> heh
[11:09] <mishonis> my netbook won't reboot
[11:10] <mishonis> it goes to a black screen and never boots up again
[11:10] <mishonis> any ideas?
[11:36] <TheLastBaron> Morning guys ! :D
[14:22] <Kingsy> where are the sound options located on xubuntu?
[14:23] <Kingsy> I must be being blind but I cant see em anywhere obvious
[14:23] <nashi> click the speaker icon in the system tray
[14:27] <Kingsy> thanks
[14:27] <Kingsy> so it turned out I was blind :)
[14:27] <nashi> hehe naaaah
[14:27] <nashi> just not obvious really
[14:28] <nashi> whod think its not in a control panel and instead a little speaker did it all?
[15:33] <nanotube> think it'd be a reasonable feature request to mention in -devel, to put a link to the sound settings in the main settings manager?
[15:46] <designbybeck> i am having problems booting into Xubuntu
[15:47] <designbybeck> in a VM as well as a clean install on server
[15:47] <designbybeck> it looks like it is finishing booting, and i can see a screen with a mouse and then it just goes back to the booting ... like the last thing it was checking was "Checking Battery"
[15:47] <designbybeck> anyone have any ideas?
[15:49] <Marzata> designbybeck: got enough hw for xubu?
[15:50] <designbybeck> it is a Dell XPS Laptop M1730
[15:51] <designbybeck> Intel Core 2 Duo / Nvidia 1gB ...4GB RAM
[15:51] <designbybeck> i had a Ubuntu 11.10 64bit server installed
[15:51] <designbybeck> and i wanted a GUI
[15:53] <Marzata> ah
[15:53] <Marzata> and you install xfce or xubuntu desktop?
[15:54] <Marzata> why don't you try fluxbox?
[15:57] <designbybeck> i guess i did the xubuntu-desktop
[15:57] <designbybeck> never heard of fluxbox
[15:58] <ablomen> Marzata, That should be more then enough to run xfce.. designbybeck you should try the normal xubuntu install, ubuntu-server uses a different kernel etc
[15:58] <designbybeck> this was just going to be a play server so i could test things out
[15:58] <designbybeck> hmmm
[15:59] <Marzata> I tried to install xubuntu-desktop on ubuntu server and it didn't work.
[15:59] <ablomen> designbybeck, if you download and burn the live cd and see if it works without installing
[15:59] <designbybeck> lol that is what i'm finding out Marzata
[15:59] <Marzata> dunno about Xfce only, have not tired that yet.
[15:59] <designbybeck> i was able to get to the desktop once on my VM i tried
[15:59] <designbybeck> what is the best way to get a GUI for ubuntu server then?
[16:00] <Marzata> designbybeck: fluxbox must work
[16:00] <ablomen> designbybeck, the whole point of ubuntu server is not having a gui
[16:00] <charlie-tca> !webmin
[16:00] <designbybeck> true i understand that but i'm not savvy enough with commandline just yet
[16:00] <Marzata> designbybeck: I think I tried fluxbox and it worked. Not sure if I did tried openbox.
[16:01] <Marzata> designbybeck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[16:02] <designbybeck> Thanks for the help all I'll look at some of these other options
[16:03] <designbybeck> interesting
[16:03] <zzillezz> 0..
[16:03] <designbybeck> i tried to remove xubuntu-desktop and it still is trying to boot into it
[16:03] <designbybeck> sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[16:03] <designbybeck> isn't that the right command for that ?
[16:05] <ablomen> designbybeck, also make sure gdm and lightdm are not installed anymore
[16:05] <designbybeck> hmmm
[16:05] <designbybeck> ok
[16:06] <charlie-tca> removing xubuntu-desktop removes the meta-package only, not the complete set of files installed by it.
[16:07] <designbybeck> uyeah i thought that was odd when it said only 40k would be freed up
[16:10] <hobgoblin> designbybeck: have a look here - might help to see what to remove - www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/  look for the Playing Around bits
[16:10] <designbybeck> thnk you hobgoblin
[16:11] <hobgoblin> welcome - though if you started with ubuntu server it'll not be 'quite' right - will need tyo have a look
[16:12] <designbybeck> i think i'm just going to have to go back with a clean install and start from there
[16:12] <designbybeck> because now i can't even get to another termnial to remove gdm and lightdm
[16:12] <designbybeck> ctrl alt F4 any of them aren't working
[16:13] <ablomen> designbybeck, then just install a regular xubuntu install, using server versions only has drawbacks as long as you are not using it for a real production server
[16:14] <designbybeck> well part of this install was to see how ubuntu server worked
[16:15] <designbybeck> i'm trying to make it a learning experience  LOL
[16:15] <designbybeck> i'm learnin' alright!
[16:15] <ablomen> designbybeck, haha well the differences are not that big, mostly different hardware support/tweaks
[16:27] <mongy> xubuntu on a usb hd, full drive encryption.  which format, ext4 or btrfs?
[16:28] <charlie-tca> alternate cd, does it even offer you btrfs?
[16:29] <charlie-tca> default is ext4
[16:29] <charlie-tca> on full encryption, usually includes lvm
[16:30] <mongy> I just want opinions on which filesystem would be best suited.  will be a mix of lots of small files and quite a few very large files.
[16:30] <mongy> I guess I see no reason not to use ext4
[16:31] <charlie-tca> Since Xubuntu defaults to ext4, I don't know if btrfs is ready or not, really.
[16:31] <charlie-tca> I know gparted offers it as an option, but I did not know we did.
[16:32] <charlie-tca> I use ext4 on 11.04 and later installs. My 10.04 is still at ext3
[17:29] <nightspirit> What's a good video editing software that works well in xubuntu?
[17:29] <nightspirit> \whois jmcantrell
[17:30] <nightspirit> Oops wrong slash
[17:30] <augustl> nightspirit: kdenlive is pretty good
[17:30] <nightspirit> I tried it, but it wanted me to install half of KDE along with it
[17:31] <nightspirit> And then it wouldn't start up
[17:32] <nightspirit> LiVES seems to be working though
[18:18] <xubuntu5> How can I run x11vnc before login?
[18:19] <holstein> xubuntu5: check out http://www.abdevelopment.ca/blog/start-vnc-server-ubuntu-boot
[18:20] <holstein> it'll be similar.. i have only done it with vino
[18:21] <geekfromiran> join #ubuntu-ir
[18:22] <xubuntu5> thanks i'll take a look
[18:27] <xubuntu5> holstein
[18:27] <xubuntu5> what about rc.local
[18:27] <xubuntu5> how does that work?
[18:35] <xubuntu5> in lightdm i need to change: [SeatDefaults]display-setup-script=/my/script does that script run before login?
[18:40] <rama> hello
[18:48] <xubuntu5> what's the difference between display-setup-script and greeter-setup-script in lightdm?
[18:52] <holstein> xubuntu5: thats a good question
[18:52] <holstein> maybe the display setup passes something on to the desktop?
[18:53] <holstein> xubuntu5: i say, back it up before you start tweaking, and just try it and see if it works
[18:55] <charlie-tca> Sometimes giving the entire directory path lets us know, too
[20:40] <multipass> i installed ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop and now my tray is all messed up with my indicators
[20:40] <multipass> anyone ever have this happen?
[20:41] <multipass> when you click on them they no longer do what they are supposed to do
[20:41] <charlie-tca> Yes, it is conflicting indicators
[20:41] <multipass> then i tried to remove both of those, ubuntu and kubuntu desktops
[20:41] <charlie-tca> You should be able to remove all but one indicator package and make it work again
[20:41] <multipass> ok, hm
[20:42] <charlie-tca> That removed the -desktop packages only, not all the extra packages they install
[20:42] <metasansana> Hello all
[20:42] <multipass> yeah charlie-tca.. only removed like 50kb
[20:43] <multipass> lol
[20:44] <metasansana> Is there a way to get one whole desktop with two screens, using nvidia 7300GS and 8400?
[20:44] <metasansana> each time I enable xinerama the screens flicker and then black out
[20:45] <charlie-tca> install and use arandr
[20:45] <charlie-tca> xinerama is obsolete, as far as I recall
[20:45] <metasansana> is it a gui or terminal based?
[20:45] <augustl> xscreensaver is pretty fugly.. What's a good replacement for xubuntu?
[20:45] <charlie-tca> um, terminal, I think. I don't use it, though
[20:45] <augustl> I just want a blank screen with a password prompt when I open the lid on my laptop, basically
[20:46] <charlie-tca> augustl: if there was a better replacement, we would have used it
[20:46] <augustl> hmm, I see
[20:46] <augustl> what about xlock etc?
[20:46] <Unit193> arandr is GUI
[20:46] <augustl> I guess gnome-screensaver is pretty obtrusive..
[20:46] <metasansana> Oh, I was looking for a quick and easy way I tried xrandr it was a failure
[20:47] <charlie-tca> gnome-screensaver causes some issues if you don't have gnome installed
[20:47] <metasansana> thanks Unit193
[20:47] <Unit193> metasansana: xrandr should do it, if you know how to use it, but arandr is a GUI for it
[20:47] <metasansana> and charlie-tca
[20:48] <Unit193> You're welcome
[20:48] <metasansana> Ill give it a try Im currently re installing xubuntu
[20:48] <augustl> charlie-tca: I see, tnx
[20:49] <charlie-tca> augustl: you can always try gnome-screensaver by installing it. There are only two screensavers, basically. Gnome-screensaver and Xscreensaver :(
[20:51] <augustl> are there any none-screensaver alternatives? Just a lock screen basically.
[20:51] <augustl> I don't need fancy animations :)
[20:53] <charlie-tca> I can't think of any. It's possible to tell xscreensaver that you want no screensaver and still use it for screenlocking, though
[20:53] <charlie-tca> it doesn't care if you have graphics or blank screen.
[20:55] <augustl> yeah I have a blank screen i xscreensaver now
[20:56] <augustl> current gripes are that I have to touch a key or the mouse after I open the lid, and that it's not very pretty
[20:56] <augustl> if I just open the lid, the screen stays black
[20:57] <multipass> the synaptic pack manager keeps crashign when i try to open it.. what is the terminal command for it?
[20:58] <charlie-tca> synaptic or sudo synaptic
[20:59] <charlie-tca> but you might need to do sudo apt-get update instead
[20:59] <multipass> getting r id of these ubuntu/kubuntu indicators seems dangerous
[21:00] <holstein> augustl: i have a couple boxes doing that with the newer kernels.. you can always run the LTS
[21:00] <holstein> augustl: actually... i mis-read... my screen is dead after resume
[21:00] <augustl> ah :)
[21:00] <charlie-tca> multipass: you can leave them alone, and just put up with the conflicts
[21:00] <holstein> i use xtrlock, but its quite minimal
[21:01] <multipass> id like to totally remove ubuntu and kubuntu desktops really
[21:01] <multipass> but i dont want to accidcently delete something im using
[21:01] <multipass> or pre-req for another prog rather
[21:01] <holstein> you can always put them back multipass ... the .config files should stay in place
[21:02] <multipass> i did find these, might be good for the kubuntu one, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[21:02] <multipass> minus the install ubuntu at end
[21:03] <charlie-tca> Try for this:
[21:03] <charlie-tca> !purexfce
[21:04] <charlie-tca> I haven't looked to see how up to date it is, though
[21:04] <multipass> 11.10
[21:04] <multipass> it says
[21:07] <multipass> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  openjdk-6-jre : Depends: libgif4 (>= 4.1.4) but it is not going to be installed                  Recommends: icedtea-netx but it is not going to be installed
[21:08] <multipass> so dont get rid of the libgif4?
[21:08] <augustl> multipass: what I do for a clean install is to have a separate / and /home partition, move /home/myusername to /home/old_myusername, and install :)
[21:09] <multipass> ugh lol, was a bad idea to install both those
[21:10] <augustl> and make sure the installer doesn't recreate the file system on the /home partition of course
[21:32] <multipass> so i broke xubuntu lol
[21:33] <multipass> when i start my comp, i try to load into xubuntu, i see the loading bar with the xubuntu logo.. then the screen goes blank and starts flashing
[21:33] <charlie-tca> tried rescue mode?
[21:33] <charlie-tca> sounds like a video driver missing or conflicting
[21:34] <multipass> i went into rescue mode and installed kubuntu and ubuntu again
[21:34] <multipass> but no luck
[21:34] <multipass> could it of been the ati driver?
[21:34] <charlie-tca> sure
[22:44] <sejens> Having problems installing jre on xubuntu64 11.10 anyone want to help?
[22:45] <sejens> This happens:
[22:45] <sejens> jens@acer13:~/Hämtningar$ ls
[22:45] <sejens> fix-windows-as-default-boot-on-ubuntu-9-10-with-grub2-loader
[22:45] <sejens> java_ee_sdk-6u3-jdk7-linux-x64-ml.sh
[22:45] <sejens> jdk-7u1-nb-7_0_1-linux-ml.sh
[22:45] <sejens> jdk-7u2-nb-7_1-linux-ml.sh
[22:45] <sejens> opa_1.0s3.5+build1121_amd64.stable.deb
[22:45] <sejens> polly_0.93.0-0~oneiric1_all.deb
[22:45] <sejens> jens@acer13:~/Hämtningar$ sudo ./jdk-7u2-nb-7_1-linux-ml.sh
[22:45] <sejens> [sudo] password for jens:
[22:45] <sejens> Configuring the installer...
[22:45] <sejens> Searching for JVM on the system...
[22:45] <sejens> Preparing bundled JVM ...
[22:45] <sejens> Extracting installation data...
[22:45] <sejens> Running the installer wizard...
[22:45] <sejens> Exception: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError thrown from the UncaughtExceptionHandler in thread "main"
[22:45] <sejens> Worked on XUbuntu32 11.10
[22:47] <Marzata> hmm
[22:47] <sejens> Ok, could it be that I need a newer JRE?
[22:48] <xubuntu5> how can i change the maximize window key from alt f10 to something else?
[22:49] <Unit193> xubuntu5: Normally things like that are in Settings > Settings Manager > Keyboard
[22:49] <Unit193> !pastebin | sejens
[22:49] <xubuntu5> that's where i am i just dont' know what the command is to make windows maximize
[22:50] <sejens> Ok, sorry. I was sent here from xubuntu-devel. Bye.
[22:53] <sejens> Oh, which channel should I use?
[22:53] <sejens> Anyway here's the info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/798755/
[22:54] <Unit193> I take it you want Oracle java?
[22:54] <sejens> Yep, I'm trying to install the java7.2+netbeans bundle.
[22:56] <sejens> Refering to this page http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html with jre7u2+nb7.1
[22:58] <sejens> Just installed xubuntu64 11.10 instead of xubuntu32 11.10 in order to be able to run opa programming (http://opalang.org)
[23:00] <Unit193> xubuntu5: I would think that'd be a per-application setting, but alt+space x works
[23:01] <xubuntu5> but by default xubuntu has it set to make a window become maximized when you press alt f10
[23:01] <Unit193> sejens: I haven't installed Java since they removed it from the repos, but there are some good guides online
[23:01] <xubuntu5> how can i override that? and make it something else
[23:02] <Unit193> xubuntu5: I'm sorry, Settings Manager > Window Manager > Keyboard
[23:03] <xubuntu5> I am there
[23:03] <xubuntu5> what is the command to make a window become maximized?
[23:03] <sejens> Unit193: Ok, thnx, Thing is that the install starts correctly and then crashes...
[23:04] <Unit193> xubuntu5: Are you sure you are in Window Manager? Before you said you were in the Keyboard section
[23:04] <xubuntu5> i am in the keyboard section "application shortcuts"
[23:04] <xubuntu5> oooooooh
[23:04] <Unit193> Yes, you need to be in the other one
[23:04] <xubuntu5> i am not in window manager
[23:04] <xubuntu5> got it!!
[23:04] <xubuntu5> thanks!
[23:05] <xubuntu5> just what i wanted thank you sir
[23:05] <Unit193> Yep
[23:05] <Unit193> You're welcome
[23:06] <xubuntu5> gmusicbrowser is the default music player with xubuntu?
[23:06] <Unit193> Default "music manager"
[23:06] <xubuntu5> ahh thanks!
[23:07] <xubuntu5> and how do i run a script before login?
[23:07] <xubuntu5> is that done in lightdm.conf?
[23:08] <sejens> Besides... It's of course the JDK I'm trying to install, not the JRE...
[23:09] <Unit193> xubuntu5: Heh, I personally don't have lightdm, should be in an autorun file
[23:10] <xubuntu5> what do you use instead of lightdm?
[23:10] <xubuntu5> kdm? gdm?
[23:10] <Unit193> GDM with 11.04 :P
[23:10] <xubuntu5>  nice
[23:11] <Unit193> xubuntu5: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto
[23:11] <xubuntu5> rc.local ahh i thought i might have to mess with that
[23:11] <xubuntu5> thought i could run a pre-login script with lightdm.conf too i'll check that out thanks Unit193
[23:12] <Unit193> You may be able to, but I don't remember checking that out when I was testing Oneiric or Pangolin
[23:16] <xubuntu5> that link seems dated doesn't xubuntu/ubuntu already have a /etc/rc.local file?
[23:38] <xubuntu5> thanks again for your help unit!
[23:39] <Unit193> Any... time
[23:57] <multipass> i think i removed the login manager from xubuntu when trying to remove kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop.. any way to get that back easily?
[23:57] <multipass> i deleted the kde damon which was in place possibly
[23:59] <multipass> so now it basically boots up, then i see the xubuntu logo which shows it loading, then screen goes black and starts flashing