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imgx64 | Is it possible to run Unity in a VirtualBox VM? I enabled 3D acceleration and installed the guest additions, but I can only run Unity2D. | 07:09 |
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civija | hi guys! | 12:20 |
civija | I have a question about 12.04 alpha 1 | 12:20 |
civija | I installed it to my hp 6735b laptop for testing | 12:20 |
civija | and noticed that there is no hibernate option in shutdown menu anymore ... | 12:21 |
civija | it was there in 11.10 | 12:21 |
civija | is this disabled on purpose or something else? | 12:21 |
Daekdroom | civija, hibernate is known for breaking stuff. It wouldn't surprise me if it were on purpose | 12:39 |
civija | Daekdroom: yes I know that | 12:42 |
civija | I'm searching for some information about this | 12:42 |
civija | only thing that I have found is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-desktop-privileges/+bug/812394 | 12:43 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 812394 in Ayatana Design "Disable hibernate option by default" [Critical,Fix committed] | 12:43 |
civija | yes, this is it | 12:52 |
civija | it is disabled on purpose | 12:53 |
civija | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/policykit-desktop-privileges/policykit-desktop-privileges_0.10/changelog | 12:53 |
civija | it can be enabled in /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla | 12:53 |
civija | in case anyone else is wondering about this :) | 12:54 |
Daekdroom | The comments were interesting. | 13:12 |
Rovanion | I'm currently having multiple packages being held back at my system. Is this supposed to be so or should I try to break this somehow? | 13:26 |
Stanley00 | Rovanion: it is normal when you using alpha testing version | 13:27 |
Rovanion | Stanley00: Okey, so I should not be bothered by it? | 13:27 |
Stanley00 | Rovanion: you can get through it via "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" | 13:27 |
Rovanion | Stanley00: But these packages that are currently held back, they will be upgraded once someone controlling testing decides that it's time? | 13:30 |
Stanley00 | Rovanion: I think so, it will be installed when its time come | 13:30 |
Daekdroom | Rovanion, it's not about someone controlling. They're being held back by your own computer because of dependency issues. | 13:32 |
Daekdroom | Using 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' might break your system, but you'll have to use it sometimes to keep it up to date (atleast during the development) | 13:32 |
Ian_Corne | it's needed to pull in new packages which are dependencies of updated packages, pull in kernel updates,... | 13:39 |
iceroot | Rovanion: to have the latest updates always use dist-upgrade and not only upgrade | 14:47 |
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pmatulis | is LVM an option in the installer these days? | 16:59 |
Rovanion | Running wine 1.2 I'm having issues executing an application on a ntfs partition mounted with fmask=000. I get the complaint that it isn't marked as executable even though it is, due to mount option. | 17:53 |
Rovanion | Well never mind that I guess. At first I had the same issue when mounting with gvfs, but then when I switched back, the issue disappeared. | 18:12 |
Rovanion | Just to clearify. Mounted as usual with gvfs - had issue. Mounted as root via fstab - had issue. Mounted with gvfs - issue gone. | 18:14 |
johnjohn101 | will ubuntu tv be a seperate product? | 18:42 |
jtaylor | I wonder if canonical can stomach the sure to come lawsuits from apple | 18:51 |
Rovanion | jtaylor: Patents on selling movies via a computer based program? | 18:57 |
jtaylor | they ought to have something | 18:58 |
Rovanion | jtaylor: Most likely a ton of generic ones with descriptions such as "Providing entertainment services trough a digital medium" and "Allowing purchases via a pointer based interface". But since it's UK based, how much of the US patent bull spills over via international treaties? | 19:01 |
Rovanion | "it" referring to Canonical. | 19:01 |
jtaylor | well the managed to stop the galaxy tab in germany because its square | 19:02 |
jtaylor | *rectangular | 19:03 |
Rovanion | jtaylor: But was that patents and not design copyright? But you're absolutely right. The forecast looks dark no matter which it was. | 19:05 |
jtaylor | that was design | 19:06 |
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FernandoMiguel | evening | 20:44 |
chmac | I'm reading that alt-tab is supposed to switch only between windows on the current workspace in precise. | 21:02 |
chmac | My default alt-tab behaviour when installed was to switch between all running applications, across all workspaces. | 21:02 |
chmac | Is this something that'll make it into a later release before precise goes final? | 21:03 |
FernandoMiguel | chmac: install compiz-setting-manager and set it there | 21:07 |
chmac | FernandoMiguel: Set what there? | 21:07 |
FernandoMiguel | if alt tab should switch all or just one workspace | 21:07 |
johnjohn101 | do you think daily is good enough now to run in virtual machine (vmware) or should i wait 3 more weeks? | 21:08 |
FernandoMiguel | johnjohn101: it's on bare metal for me | 21:08 |
FernandoMiguel | since day one! | 21:08 |
FernandoMiguel | only thing not working is ia32-libs | 21:08 |
chmac | FernandoMiguel: The only related option I see in Unity is to prioritise windows on this workspace. Could you be more specific as to which option I should set? | 21:09 |
johnjohn101 | fernando, what does ia32-libs do? | 21:10 |
FernandoMiguel | chmac: Static App switcher | 21:10 |
chmac | johnjohn101: I installed precise on my primary laptop a few days ago. It's been 90% usable. | 21:10 |
chmac | johnjohn101: I'm really struggling with some aspects of unity, but I'd guess they're the same as 11.10 so if you're there, you probably know what's coming. | 21:11 |
FernandoMiguel | there are shortcuts for both | 21:11 |
jo-erlend | lately, I've had some issues with video playback. The audio is fine, but sometimes, the video stops for a while and then runs in high speed. Any idea what may be the cause of this? | 21:11 |
johnjohn101 | i don't mind unity. would like a couple of things fixed but it's fine. | 21:11 |
FernandoMiguel | jo-erlend: fine here | 21:11 |
FernandoMiguel | johnjohn101: it supports 32bits apps on 64bits. but are migrating to multiarch | 21:12 |
chmac | jo-erlend: Video has been working great for me, I'm pleased to say, I was worried by the absence of medibuntu, but most of the oneiric stuff worked just fine. | 21:12 |
johnjohn101 | will there be a 32 bit version? | 21:12 |
chmac | FernandoMiguel: Ok, gotcha. I did switch to the static switcher, although there's no way to disable the unity switcher as far as I can see, only remove its keyboard shortcuts. | 21:12 |
jo-erlend | FernandoMiguel, chmac: only one of my computer has this problem. I didn't ask if I was the only one in the world. I asked if anyone has any ideas what the cause might be. | 21:13 |
chmac | jo-erlend: Can you be more specific with your problem description? Which media player? In all of them, only one? | 21:14 |
FernandoMiguel | jo-erlend: what gpu? | 21:14 |
chmac | brb | 21:14 |
jo-erlend | HD5850, using the radeon driver, and using the default video player, which is Totem. | 21:15 |
johnjohn101 | i may wait until feb 2 | 21:17 |
chmac | Every time I log out / in, I have to re-enter the wifi passwords for the 2 networks here, both of which were saved before installing precise. Any suggestions on how to debug? | 21:39 |
chmac | While I'm at it, I have no apps at all in my launcher. Known bug? Freak accident? Any suggestions? | 21:41 |
FernandoMiguel | chmac: does it work on a clean or guest profile? | 21:47 |
FernandoMiguel | remove those wifi networks and readd ? | 21:47 |
chmac | FernandoMiguel: Excellent idea, let me check... | 21:47 |
FernandoMiguel | johnjohn101: wait for what? for someone else to report its broken? | 21:48 |
chmac | FernandoMiguel: I just had a play with seahorse and I think that issue was fixed when I set the login keyring as default, I'll find out next login I suppose. :-) | 21:48 |
johnjohn101 | fernando, i usually find bugs someone else reported. nothing new... | 21:48 |
chmac | FernandoMiguel: Genius, it does work in a guest profile, all the apps are listed in the launcher... | 21:49 |
chmac | I wonder what's going on in my home directory that's messing with the launcher... | 21:50 |
chmac | brb | 21:51 |
FernandoMiguel | johnjohn101: sometimes. not always. assuming others will file them, I never get them fixed | 21:51 |
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johnjohn101 | fernando, installing now... | 21:59 |
chmac | Resolved my keyring issues. :-) | 22:00 |
FernandoMiguel | johnjohn101: please use TAB to auto complete my nick | 22:00 |
FernandoMiguel | chmac: yay | 22:00 |
chmac | Before installing precise, I had a setting enabled where if I moved my mouse onto a window, that window got the focus, but didn't come to the front. | 22:03 |
chmac | It continued to work when I installed precise, but I think after experimenting with unity2d/classic, it's gone. | 22:03 |
chmac | Anyone know how I put it back by any chance? It's a long shot... :-) | 22:04 |
johnjohn101 | FernandoMiguel: thanks, I never knew that was available. is that pidgin only? | 22:05 |
chmac | johnjohn101: Standard across most irc clients, and also works on the command line (the terminal) | 22:06 |
FernandoMiguel | johnjohn101: most IRC clients | 22:06 |
FernandoMiguel | chmac: again, compiz settings | 22:06 |
johnjohn101 | nice feature | 22:06 |
FernandoMiguel | focus mouse over | 22:06 |
chmac | FernandoMiguel: Awesome. ccsm > General Options > Click To Focus, uncheck. :-) | 22:08 |
FernandoMiguel | :D | 22:08 |
chmac | Took me a while to get my head around, but once I did, it's really incredible, I recommend trying it out. | 22:08 |
FernandoMiguel | chmac: protip: make backups of those settings. Compiz tends to explode | 22:08 |
chmac | For example, being able to type in a web page with another window in front to read from, deeply awesome! | 22:08 |
chmac | FernandoMiguel: Ok, will look into that, thanks. | 22:08 |
FernandoMiguel | yw | 22:09 |
chmac | How do you folks keep track of workspaces? I've reverted to running gnome-panel to give me the bottom panel only (apps / workspaces), but is there a better "unity" way? | 22:14 |
FernandoMiguel | Expose ? | 22:15 |
chmac | FernandoMiguel: super-s, zoom to all workspaces visible? | 22:17 |
FernandoMiguel | I have super+e | 22:18 |
FernandoMiguel | but I think I changed mine from default | 22:18 |
chmac | I have 5 workspaces, I suppose with a 3x2 grid, expose would work better. | 22:18 |
FernandoMiguel | also super+w for all app in this workspace | 22:18 |
FernandoMiguel | I have 2x2 | 22:18 |
chmac | FernandoMiguel: Aha, super-w shows all apps on all workspaces by default I believe. | 22:19 |
chmac | alt-shift-up is the default for this workspace, but I'll remap to super-w, makes more sense. | 22:19 |
FernandoMiguel | yeah | 22:19 |
chmac | I have real difficulty tracking what's going on without the bottom panel showing my current apps. | 22:19 |
chmac | I feel so much more grounded having it back, but I decided I'm going to make a real effort to follow the way of unification, so I'm trying to find a more unified alternative... :-) | 22:20 |
FernandoMiguel | chmac: me toooooooooooooooo | 22:25 |
chmac | Phew, a few compiz crashes later, and I think unity is mostly behaving as I would like... :-) | 22:34 |
FernandoMiguel | :D | 22:35 |
chmac | Hopefully the last question of the night, how do I change the number of workspaces? | 22:38 |
FernandoMiguel | compiz, yet again | 22:39 |
FernandoMiguel | on the top block | 22:39 |
FernandoMiguel | general | 22:40 |
johnjohn101 | why is compiz mngr not installed by default? | 22:42 |
johnjohn101 | seems like is should be if you want to change some unity stuff. | 22:42 |
chmac | Phew, another reboot later, I'll put the number of "virtual desktops" back to 1, and bid you kind folks goodnight. :-) | 22:45 |
chmac | Thanks a lot FernandoMiguel, you were a great help. A world apart from asking for help earlier today on #postfix. :-) | 22:45 |
FernandoMiguel | AH | 22:46 |
* FernandoMiguel remembers the time spent on #postfix | 22:46 | |
FernandoMiguel | oh boy #pidgin :S | 22:46 |
FernandoMiguel | johnjohn101: 90% of the users will never use it | 22:46 |
FernandoMiguel | and changing anything there can result in a VERY mess up UX | 22:46 |
johnjohn101 | i want to know when snow will be ported up the the newer versions of compiz | 22:47 |
FernandoMiguel | AHHAAHAH | 22:48 |
FernandoMiguel | let me know when water and fire are :P | 22:48 |
johnjohn101 | FernandoMiguel: almost done with install that will make six ubuntu distros i have on computer | 23:02 |
FernandoMiguel | AH | 23:02 |
FernandoMiguel | for me, 3 more months | 23:02 |
johnjohn101 | seems like not that long ago that koala came out | 23:05 |
FernandoMiguel | a few years | 23:05 |
johnjohn101 | 2.25 years ago. | 23:07 |
FernandoMiguel | add 4 months | 23:07 |
FernandoMiguel | I start on day 1 | 23:07 |
johnjohn101 | still older versions of some apps. i guess subject to change with newer builds.. node.js, couchdb are two that I see | 23:13 |
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