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imgx64Is it possible to run Unity in a VirtualBox VM? I enabled 3D acceleration and installed the guest additions, but I can only run Unity2D.07:09
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civijahi guys!12:20
civijaI have a question about 12.04 alpha 112:20
civijaI installed it to my hp 6735b laptop for testing12:20
civijaand noticed that there is no hibernate option in shutdown menu anymore ...12:21
civijait was there in 11.1012:21
civijais this disabled on purpose or something else?12:21
Daekdroomcivija, hibernate is known for breaking stuff. It wouldn't surprise me if it were on purpose12:39
civijaDaekdroom: yes I know that12:42
civijaI'm searching for some information about this12:42
civijaonly thing that I have found is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-desktop-privileges/+bug/81239412:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 812394 in Ayatana Design "Disable hibernate option by default" [Critical,Fix committed]12:43
civijayes, this is it12:52
civijait is disabled on purpose12:53
civijahttp://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/policykit-desktop-privileges/policykit-desktop-privileges_0.10/changelog12:53
civijait can be enabled in /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla12:53
civijain case anyone else is wondering about this :)12:54
DaekdroomThe comments were interesting.13:12
RovanionI'm currently having multiple packages being held back at my system. Is this supposed to be so or should I try to break this somehow?13:26
Stanley00Rovanion: it is normal when you using alpha testing version13:27
RovanionStanley00: Okey, so I should not be bothered by it?13:27
Stanley00Rovanion: you can get through it via "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"13:27
RovanionStanley00: But these packages that are currently held back, they will be upgraded once someone controlling testing decides that it's time?13:30
Stanley00Rovanion: I think so, it will be installed when its time come13:30
DaekdroomRovanion, it's not about someone controlling. They're being held back by your own computer because of dependency issues.13:32
DaekdroomUsing 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' might break your system, but you'll have to use it sometimes to keep it up to date (atleast during the development)13:32
Ian_Corneit's needed to pull in new packages which are dependencies of updated packages, pull in kernel updates,...13:39
icerootRovanion: to have the latest updates always use dist-upgrade and not only upgrade14:47
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pmatulisis LVM an option in the installer these days?16:59
RovanionRunning wine 1.2 I'm having issues executing an application on a ntfs partition mounted with fmask=000. I get the complaint that it isn't marked as executable even though it is, due to mount option.17:53
RovanionWell never mind that I guess. At first I had the same issue when mounting with gvfs, but then when I switched back, the issue disappeared.18:12
RovanionJust to clearify. Mounted as usual with gvfs - had issue. Mounted as root via fstab - had issue. Mounted with gvfs - issue gone.18:14
johnjohn101will ubuntu tv be a seperate product?18:42
jtaylorI wonder if canonical can stomach the sure to come lawsuits from apple18:51
Rovanionjtaylor: Patents on selling movies via a computer based program?18:57
jtaylorthey ought to have something18:58
Rovanionjtaylor: Most likely a ton of generic ones with descriptions such as "Providing entertainment services trough a digital medium" and "Allowing purchases via a pointer based interface". But since it's UK based, how much of the US patent bull spills over via international treaties?19:01
Rovanion"it" referring to Canonical.19:01
jtaylorwell the managed to stop the galaxy tab in germany because its square19:02
jtaylor*rectangular19:03
Rovanionjtaylor: But was that patents and not design copyright? But you're absolutely right. The forecast looks dark no matter which it was.19:05
jtaylorthat was design19:06
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FernandoMiguelevening20:44
chmacI'm reading that alt-tab is supposed to switch only between windows on the current workspace in precise.21:02
chmacMy default alt-tab behaviour when installed was to switch between all running applications, across all workspaces.21:02
chmacIs this something that'll make it into a later release before precise goes final?21:03
FernandoMiguelchmac: install compiz-setting-manager and set it there21:07
chmacFernandoMiguel: Set what there?21:07
FernandoMiguelif alt tab should switch all or just one workspace21:07
johnjohn101do you think daily is good enough now to run in virtual machine (vmware) or should i wait 3 more weeks?21:08
FernandoMigueljohnjohn101: it's on bare metal for me21:08
FernandoMiguelsince day one!21:08
FernandoMiguelonly thing not working is ia32-libs21:08
chmacFernandoMiguel: The only related option I see in Unity is to prioritise windows on this workspace. Could you be more specific as to which option I should set?21:09
johnjohn101fernando, what does ia32-libs do?21:10
FernandoMiguelchmac: Static App switcher21:10
chmacjohnjohn101: I installed precise on my primary laptop a few days ago. It's been 90% usable.21:10
chmacjohnjohn101: I'm really struggling with some aspects of unity, but I'd guess they're the same as 11.10 so if you're there, you probably know what's coming.21:11
FernandoMiguelthere are shortcuts for both21:11
jo-erlendlately, I've had some issues with video playback. The audio is fine, but sometimes, the video stops for a while and then runs in high speed. Any idea what may be the cause of this?21:11
johnjohn101i don't mind unity. would like a couple of things fixed but it's fine.21:11
FernandoMigueljo-erlend: fine here21:11
FernandoMigueljohnjohn101: it supports 32bits apps on 64bits. but are migrating to multiarch21:12
chmacjo-erlend: Video has been working great for me, I'm pleased to say, I was worried by the absence of medibuntu, but most of the oneiric stuff worked just fine.21:12
johnjohn101will there be a 32 bit version?21:12
chmacFernandoMiguel: Ok, gotcha. I did switch to the static switcher, although there's no way to disable the unity switcher as far as I can see, only remove its keyboard shortcuts.21:12
jo-erlendFernandoMiguel, chmac: only one of my computer has this problem. I didn't ask if I was the only one in the world. I asked if anyone has any ideas what the cause might be.21:13
chmacjo-erlend: Can you be more specific with your problem description? Which media player? In all of them, only one?21:14
FernandoMigueljo-erlend: what gpu?21:14
chmacbrb21:14
jo-erlendHD5850, using the radeon driver, and using the default video player, which is Totem.21:15
johnjohn101i may wait until feb 221:17
chmacEvery time I log out / in, I have to re-enter the wifi passwords for the 2 networks here, both of which were saved before installing precise. Any suggestions on how to debug?21:39
chmacWhile I'm at it, I have no apps at all in my launcher. Known bug? Freak accident? Any suggestions?21:41
FernandoMiguelchmac: does it work on a clean or guest profile?21:47
FernandoMiguelremove those wifi networks and readd ?21:47
chmacFernandoMiguel: Excellent idea, let me check...21:47
FernandoMigueljohnjohn101: wait for what? for someone else to report its broken?21:48
chmacFernandoMiguel: I just had a play with seahorse and I think that issue was fixed when I set the login keyring as default, I'll find out next login I suppose. :-)21:48
johnjohn101fernando, i usually find bugs someone else reported. nothing new...21:48
chmacFernandoMiguel: Genius, it does work in a guest profile, all the apps are listed in the launcher...21:49
chmacI wonder what's going on in my home directory that's messing with the launcher...21:50
chmacbrb21:51
FernandoMigueljohnjohn101: sometimes. not always. assuming others will file them, I never get them fixed21:51
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johnjohn101fernando, installing now...21:59
chmacResolved my keyring issues. :-)22:00
FernandoMigueljohnjohn101: please use TAB to auto complete my nick22:00
FernandoMiguelchmac: yay22:00
chmacBefore installing precise, I had a setting enabled where if I moved my mouse onto a window, that window got the focus, but didn't come to the front.22:03
chmacIt continued to work when I installed precise, but I think after experimenting with unity2d/classic, it's gone.22:03
chmacAnyone know how I put it back by any chance? It's a long shot... :-)22:04
johnjohn101FernandoMiguel: thanks, I never knew that was available. is that pidgin only?22:05
chmacjohnjohn101: Standard across most irc clients, and also works on the command line (the terminal)22:06
FernandoMigueljohnjohn101: most IRC clients22:06
FernandoMiguelchmac: again, compiz settings22:06
johnjohn101nice feature22:06
FernandoMiguelfocus mouse over22:06
chmacFernandoMiguel: Awesome. ccsm > General Options > Click To Focus, uncheck. :-)22:08
FernandoMiguel:D22:08
chmacTook me a while to get my head around, but once I did, it's really incredible, I recommend trying it out.22:08
FernandoMiguelchmac: protip: make backups of those settings. Compiz tends to explode22:08
chmacFor example, being able to type in a web page with another window in front to read from, deeply awesome!22:08
chmacFernandoMiguel: Ok, will look into that, thanks.22:08
FernandoMiguelyw22:09
chmacHow do you folks keep track of workspaces? I've reverted to running gnome-panel to give me the bottom panel only (apps / workspaces), but is there a better "unity" way?22:14
FernandoMiguelExpose ?22:15
chmacFernandoMiguel: super-s, zoom to all workspaces visible?22:17
FernandoMiguelI have super+e22:18
FernandoMiguelbut I think I changed mine from default22:18
chmacI have 5 workspaces, I suppose with a 3x2 grid, expose would work better.22:18
FernandoMiguelalso super+w for all app in this workspace22:18
FernandoMiguelI have 2x222:18
chmacFernandoMiguel: Aha, super-w shows all apps on all workspaces by default I believe.22:19
chmacalt-shift-up is the default for this workspace, but I'll remap to super-w, makes more sense.22:19
FernandoMiguelyeah22:19
chmacI have real difficulty tracking what's going on without the bottom panel showing my current apps.22:19
chmacI feel so much more grounded having it back, but I decided I'm going to make a real effort to follow the way of unification, so I'm trying to find a more unified alternative... :-)22:20
FernandoMiguelchmac: me toooooooooooooooo22:25
chmacPhew, a few compiz crashes later, and I think unity is mostly behaving as I would like... :-)22:34
FernandoMiguel:D22:35
chmacHopefully the last question of the night, how do I change the number of workspaces?22:38
FernandoMiguelcompiz, yet again22:39
FernandoMiguelon the top block22:39
FernandoMiguelgeneral22:40
johnjohn101why is compiz mngr not installed by default?22:42
johnjohn101seems like is should be if you want to change some unity stuff.22:42
chmacPhew, another reboot later, I'll put the number of "virtual desktops" back to 1, and bid you kind folks goodnight. :-)22:45
chmacThanks a lot FernandoMiguel, you were a great help. A world apart from asking for help earlier today on #postfix. :-)22:45
FernandoMiguelAH22:46
* FernandoMiguel remembers the time spent on #postfix22:46
FernandoMigueloh boy #pidgin :S22:46
FernandoMigueljohnjohn101: 90% of the users will never use it22:46
FernandoMigueland changing anything there can result in a VERY mess up UX22:46
johnjohn101i want to know when snow will be ported up the the newer versions of compiz22:47
FernandoMiguelAHHAAHAH22:48
FernandoMiguellet me know when water and fire are :P22:48
johnjohn101FernandoMiguel: almost done with install that will make six ubuntu distros i have on computer23:02
FernandoMiguelAH23:02
FernandoMiguelfor me, 3 more months23:02
johnjohn101seems like not that long ago that koala came out23:05
FernandoMiguela few years23:05
johnjohn1012.25 years ago.23:07
FernandoMigueladd 4 months23:07
FernandoMiguelI start on day 123:07
johnjohn101still older versions of some apps. i guess subject to change with newer builds..  node.js, couchdb are two that I see23:13

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