=== SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === Resistance is now known as EvilResistance [07:09] Is it possible to run Unity in a VirtualBox VM? I enabled 3D acceleration and installed the guest additions, but I can only run Unity2D. === ripps_ is now known as ripps [12:20] hi guys! [12:20] I have a question about 12.04 alpha 1 [12:20] I installed it to my hp 6735b laptop for testing [12:21] and noticed that there is no hibernate option in shutdown menu anymore ... [12:21] it was there in 11.10 [12:21] is this disabled on purpose or something else? [12:39] civija, hibernate is known for breaking stuff. It wouldn't surprise me if it were on purpose [12:42] Daekdroom: yes I know that [12:42] I'm searching for some information about this [12:43] only thing that I have found is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-desktop-privileges/+bug/812394 [12:43] Ubuntu bug 812394 in Ayatana Design "Disable hibernate option by default" [Critical,Fix committed] [12:52] yes, this is it [12:53] it is disabled on purpose [12:53] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/policykit-desktop-privileges/policykit-desktop-privileges_0.10/changelog [12:53] it can be enabled in /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/10-vendor.d/com.ubuntu.desktop.pkla [12:54] in case anyone else is wondering about this :) [13:12] The comments were interesting. [13:26] I'm currently having multiple packages being held back at my system. Is this supposed to be so or should I try to break this somehow? [13:27] Rovanion: it is normal when you using alpha testing version [13:27] Stanley00: Okey, so I should not be bothered by it? [13:27] Rovanion: you can get through it via "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [13:30] Stanley00: But these packages that are currently held back, they will be upgraded once someone controlling testing decides that it's time? [13:30] Rovanion: I think so, it will be installed when its time come [13:32] Rovanion, it's not about someone controlling. They're being held back by your own computer because of dependency issues. [13:32] Using 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' might break your system, but you'll have to use it sometimes to keep it up to date (atleast during the development) [13:39] it's needed to pull in new packages which are dependencies of updated packages, pull in kernel updates,... [14:47] Rovanion: to have the latest updates always use dist-upgrade and not only upgrade === Adys_ is now known as Adys === sdx24 is now known as sdx23 [16:59] is LVM an option in the installer these days? [17:53] Running wine 1.2 I'm having issues executing an application on a ntfs partition mounted with fmask=000. I get the complaint that it isn't marked as executable even though it is, due to mount option. [18:12] Well never mind that I guess. At first I had the same issue when mounting with gvfs, but then when I switched back, the issue disappeared. [18:14] Just to clearify. Mounted as usual with gvfs - had issue. Mounted as root via fstab - had issue. Mounted with gvfs - issue gone. [18:42] will ubuntu tv be a seperate product? [18:51] I wonder if canonical can stomach the sure to come lawsuits from apple [18:57] jtaylor: Patents on selling movies via a computer based program? [18:58] they ought to have something [19:01] jtaylor: Most likely a ton of generic ones with descriptions such as "Providing entertainment services trough a digital medium" and "Allowing purchases via a pointer based interface". But since it's UK based, how much of the US patent bull spills over via international treaties? [19:01] "it" referring to Canonical. [19:02] well the managed to stop the galaxy tab in germany because its square [19:03] *rectangular [19:05] jtaylor: But was that patents and not design copyright? But you're absolutely right. The forecast looks dark no matter which it was. [19:06] that was design === h00k is now known as Captainh00k === Captainh00k is now known as h00k [20:44] evening [21:02] I'm reading that alt-tab is supposed to switch only between windows on the current workspace in precise. [21:02] My default alt-tab behaviour when installed was to switch between all running applications, across all workspaces. [21:03] Is this something that'll make it into a later release before precise goes final? [21:07] chmac: install compiz-setting-manager and set it there [21:07] FernandoMiguel: Set what there? [21:07] if alt tab should switch all or just one workspace [21:08] do you think daily is good enough now to run in virtual machine (vmware) or should i wait 3 more weeks? [21:08] johnjohn101: it's on bare metal for me [21:08] since day one! [21:08] only thing not working is ia32-libs [21:09] FernandoMiguel: The only related option I see in Unity is to prioritise windows on this workspace. Could you be more specific as to which option I should set? [21:10] fernando, what does ia32-libs do? [21:10] chmac: Static App switcher [21:10] johnjohn101: I installed precise on my primary laptop a few days ago. It's been 90% usable. [21:11] johnjohn101: I'm really struggling with some aspects of unity, but I'd guess they're the same as 11.10 so if you're there, you probably know what's coming. [21:11] there are shortcuts for both [21:11] lately, I've had some issues with video playback. The audio is fine, but sometimes, the video stops for a while and then runs in high speed. Any idea what may be the cause of this? [21:11] i don't mind unity. would like a couple of things fixed but it's fine. [21:11] jo-erlend: fine here [21:12] johnjohn101: it supports 32bits apps on 64bits. but are migrating to multiarch [21:12] jo-erlend: Video has been working great for me, I'm pleased to say, I was worried by the absence of medibuntu, but most of the oneiric stuff worked just fine. [21:12] will there be a 32 bit version? [21:12] FernandoMiguel: Ok, gotcha. I did switch to the static switcher, although there's no way to disable the unity switcher as far as I can see, only remove its keyboard shortcuts. [21:13] FernandoMiguel, chmac: only one of my computer has this problem. I didn't ask if I was the only one in the world. I asked if anyone has any ideas what the cause might be. [21:14] jo-erlend: Can you be more specific with your problem description? Which media player? In all of them, only one? [21:14] jo-erlend: what gpu? [21:14] brb [21:15] HD5850, using the radeon driver, and using the default video player, which is Totem. [21:17] i may wait until feb 2 [21:39] Every time I log out / in, I have to re-enter the wifi passwords for the 2 networks here, both of which were saved before installing precise. Any suggestions on how to debug? [21:41] While I'm at it, I have no apps at all in my launcher. Known bug? Freak accident? Any suggestions? [21:47] chmac: does it work on a clean or guest profile? [21:47] remove those wifi networks and readd ? [21:47] FernandoMiguel: Excellent idea, let me check... [21:48] johnjohn101: wait for what? for someone else to report its broken? [21:48] FernandoMiguel: I just had a play with seahorse and I think that issue was fixed when I set the login keyring as default, I'll find out next login I suppose. :-) [21:48] fernando, i usually find bugs someone else reported. nothing new... [21:49] FernandoMiguel: Genius, it does work in a guest profile, all the apps are listed in the launcher... [21:50] I wonder what's going on in my home directory that's messing with the launcher... [21:51] brb [21:51] johnjohn101: sometimes. not always. assuming others will file them, I never get them fixed === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:59] fernando, installing now... [22:00] Resolved my keyring issues. :-) [22:00] johnjohn101: please use TAB to auto complete my nick [22:00] chmac: yay [22:03] Before installing precise, I had a setting enabled where if I moved my mouse onto a window, that window got the focus, but didn't come to the front. [22:03] It continued to work when I installed precise, but I think after experimenting with unity2d/classic, it's gone. [22:04] Anyone know how I put it back by any chance? It's a long shot... :-) [22:05] FernandoMiguel: thanks, I never knew that was available. is that pidgin only? [22:06] johnjohn101: Standard across most irc clients, and also works on the command line (the terminal) [22:06] johnjohn101: most IRC clients [22:06] chmac: again, compiz settings [22:06] nice feature [22:06] focus mouse over [22:08] FernandoMiguel: Awesome. ccsm > General Options > Click To Focus, uncheck. :-) [22:08] :D [22:08] Took me a while to get my head around, but once I did, it's really incredible, I recommend trying it out. [22:08] chmac: protip: make backups of those settings. Compiz tends to explode [22:08] For example, being able to type in a web page with another window in front to read from, deeply awesome! [22:08] FernandoMiguel: Ok, will look into that, thanks. [22:09] yw [22:14] How do you folks keep track of workspaces? I've reverted to running gnome-panel to give me the bottom panel only (apps / workspaces), but is there a better "unity" way? [22:15] Expose ? [22:17] FernandoMiguel: super-s, zoom to all workspaces visible? [22:18] I have super+e [22:18] but I think I changed mine from default [22:18] I have 5 workspaces, I suppose with a 3x2 grid, expose would work better. [22:18] also super+w for all app in this workspace [22:18] I have 2x2 [22:19] FernandoMiguel: Aha, super-w shows all apps on all workspaces by default I believe. [22:19] alt-shift-up is the default for this workspace, but I'll remap to super-w, makes more sense. [22:19] yeah [22:19] I have real difficulty tracking what's going on without the bottom panel showing my current apps. [22:20] I feel so much more grounded having it back, but I decided I'm going to make a real effort to follow the way of unification, so I'm trying to find a more unified alternative... :-) [22:25] chmac: me toooooooooooooooo [22:34] Phew, a few compiz crashes later, and I think unity is mostly behaving as I would like... :-) [22:35] :D [22:38] Hopefully the last question of the night, how do I change the number of workspaces? [22:39] compiz, yet again [22:39] on the top block [22:40] general [22:42] why is compiz mngr not installed by default? [22:42] seems like is should be if you want to change some unity stuff. [22:45] Phew, another reboot later, I'll put the number of "virtual desktops" back to 1, and bid you kind folks goodnight. :-) [22:45] Thanks a lot FernandoMiguel, you were a great help. A world apart from asking for help earlier today on #postfix. :-) [22:46] AH [22:46] * FernandoMiguel remembers the time spent on #postfix [22:46] oh boy #pidgin :S [22:46] johnjohn101: 90% of the users will never use it [22:46] and changing anything there can result in a VERY mess up UX [22:47] i want to know when snow will be ported up the the newer versions of compiz [22:48] AHHAAHAH [22:48] let me know when water and fire are :P [23:02] FernandoMiguel: almost done with install that will make six ubuntu distros i have on computer [23:02] AH [23:02] for me, 3 more months [23:05] seems like not that long ago that koala came out [23:05] a few years [23:07] 2.25 years ago. [23:07] add 4 months [23:07] I start on day 1 [23:13] still older versions of some apps. i guess subject to change with newer builds.. node.js, couchdb are two that I see