=== jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [02:57] hi, I'm a java/c# developer, I want to start Unity2D QT dev, where can I start? [03:12] hola [03:13] alguien por ahi? [03:22] hay alguien? [03:25] Chester: Este canal es en ingles [03:29] some one are there? [03:30] Chester: this channel is for developing [03:30] i have a question abaut ubuntu, some one can help me? [03:32] Chester: try with #ubuntu channel [03:32] ok, thx [03:32] here is offtopic [06:03] bdmurray: bug #913947 is french for bug #545790 [06:03] Launchpad bug 913947 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "package libkadm5clnt-mit7 1.8.1+dfsg-2ubuntu0.10 failed to install/upgrade: erreur lors de l'écriture de « »: Succès" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/913947 === hloeung_ is now known as hloeung [06:03] Launchpad bug 545790 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "package PACKAGE failed to install/upgrade: error writing to '': Success" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/545790 [08:31] slangasek: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-power-consumption has a WI "Investigate blktrace for reporting issues with excessive disk wakeups" -> it seems you already did that? yesterday I overheared you mentioning it when talking to Chris [08:47] pitti: so, I've certainly been using blktrace locally, but its output isn't very consumable for end users [09:10] cking: just read through your power notes; this is great work! [09:11] pitti, thanks! It's still "work in progress" but I've covered 80%+ of the low-hanging fruit [09:12] with that it almost seems to me that we should implement the proposed changes first, before sending bigger calls for sending bugs (as there will probably be many dupes) [09:13] cking: ^ or do you think that would still be useful at this time? [09:16] pitti, yes, there are a load of bugs filed that should be fixed which generally look quite trivial which will give us a sufficient win [09:17] ..and then we can move into phase 2 to ask for users to identify rouge processes for the ones we missed [09:19] cking: agreed, sounds good to me; want me to look into some of the bugs? [09:19] cking: are you already working on the pm-utils ones, or want me to help out there? otherwise I'd start with the ubuntuone bug [09:21] cnd, do you know the best way to provide a patch to the linuxwacom project? [09:21] robert_ancell, no, I've never touched that project [09:21] you may want to ping whot on #xorg-devel [09:21] cnd, thanks [09:22] * cnd is afraid to look at that project [09:22] <\sh> hmmm..did anybody ever saw this error: init: udev-fallback-graphics main process (...) terminated with status 1 and then failing to boot? [09:36] SpamapS, jodh .... we were just discussing serial consoles in the arm room and i remembered bug 702574, how about we upload the fix before final release ? [09:36] ;) [09:36] Launchpad bug 702574 in upstart (Ubuntu) "getty should be started automatically on serial port when serial console is set on kernel command line" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702574 [09:53] doko: could you complete/fixup the arm-patch? _rene_ is already reverting this out of upstream with http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=blob;f=patches/revert-468fe685e3c58c84bce6d9a48b931dcc21682679.diff;h=7b9f67c5dbb85c7f2633234ea40c1226e8d96815;hb=0f0bc4431463d26b45df01995d68c781d87712aa [10:09] Sweetshark, no, -> janimo and/or NCommander [10:11] doko, Sweetshark, NCommander is currently (like right now) hacking on it (though at this very moment he is in a meeting) [10:20] ogra_, doko: thx [10:37] Sweetshark: I'm staring at the ARM code right now to try and figure out where in UNO we are breaking in hardfloat [10:37] I *think* we're getting through the trampolines into at least cpp_vtable_call, but I'm not sure where we're getting back that [10:38] (gdb really hates UN) [10:38] *UNO [10:40] *getting broken past that [10:42] (I think we're exploding in cpp_meditate now that I got my fprintf's in the right places [11:05] cjwatson: was just wondering if you were planning on uploading xubuntu-meta for the linux-headers change or if I should plan to do that later [11:07] micahg: I can do that [11:08] cjwatson: ok, thanks [11:08] it wasn't urgent or anything, just cutting down on CD size a bit [11:08] sure, our alternate is oversized as well [11:18] Is the ★ character allowed in package descriptions? [11:19] * YokoZar thinks he might just try it and see if Lintian complains [11:24] YokoZar, iirc as long as its utf8 it will just work [11:28] YokoZar: anything UTF-8 should be allowed, yes [11:29] cjwatson: I wonder if a package description with stars in the wrong place could mislead about its rating ;) [11:53] I'm trying to install some packages to a staging directory. I'm using apt.conf setting RootDir to prefix root into the staging directory. apt-get update downloads the indexes, but at the end it fails as it tries to access the system's /var/lib/dpkg/lock, despite the RootDir setting. I suspect a bug (or some kind of feature). Please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/799261/ to recreate [11:53] If I run the script, I notice that apt-get update accesses /var/lib/dpkg/lock while it IMHO is configured not to do so [11:53] This is on amd64 Natty === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:01] It does work if I call the script as root, since root gives it access to /var/lib, but I was hoping to be able to run the script without being root. And frankly I don't understand what apt is doing outside of its RootDir [12:03] sveinse: the dpkg admindir is set independently apparently; Dir::State::status [12:03] sveinse: or you could set Debug::NoLocking=true [12:05] cjwatson: dpkg admindir locking works half ways: Strace tells me that apt is locking within RootDir prior to running apt-get update, but it tries to access the system's lockfile when it's done with update and about to exit [12:05] cjwatson: I'll certainly try nolocking, thanks [12:06] I suspect changing that behaviour now would be inconvenient; there is certainly a good deal of code that relies on the current behaviour [12:06] if nothing else by setting a dpkg admindir with rootdir prepended [12:23] cjwatson: The Debug::NoLocking works like a charm. Finally! Thanks a lot. [12:26] sveinse: I think it's actually not necessarily unreasonable for apt to handle dpkg and apt metadata separately; I can think of cases where I might want to use my normal apt configuration with a separate dpkg admindir, for instance, and I suspect with a bit more effort I could imagine something the other way round [12:26] it's not documented brilliantly, though [12:30] cjwatson: I think there is something not quite all right with the locking mechanism. Not that I can put my finger on it, but I'm not able to get apt-get update to run as-non root even if the locks and status is set inside a staging dir with full permissions [12:33] sveinse: chdist manages it [12:33] (devscripts; config e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/799299/) [12:34] (er, I meant to say http://paste.ubuntu.com/799300/) [12:35] Great! This might be what I have been looking for... [12:57] cjwatson: chdist is definitely what I want, but it doesn't report back command status from apt-get. This makes things a bit harder when scripting though [12:57] Think I need to copy chdist and modify it [12:58] sveinse: really? the version on my system simply execs apt-get, so apt-get's exit status will be the exit status of chdist [12:59] (I don't have any local modifications to that; running precise) [12:59] I'm getting "E: broken packages" from apt-get/chdist, but my script (with "set -ex") continues in bliss [13:00] check whether apt-get is actually exiting non-zero ... [13:11] hello [13:11] i am investigating how wubi and lupin work internally. [13:12] where can i get the source code for the initramfs used by ubuntu? [13:12] it seems that it supports a "loop" argument to the kernel [13:56] cjwatson: FYI apt-get returns status code 100, but this isn't passed on by chdist. Once I've dissected the inner workings of chdist and implemented what I need manually, I've have no need for it, so for me everything is ok now. Thanks for your assistance [13:58] (The key seems to be to use apt.conf Dir together with Dir::State::status, and not RootDir as I did) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === nijaba_afk is now known as nijaba === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === james_w` is now known as james_w === frederik_ is now known as fregl [15:09] pitti: ping debug packages generated automatically for updates repo? [15:09] pitti: im in the kernel room if you would like to talk more [15:10] stokachu: they are supposed to be, yes [15:10] stokachu: this stuff keeps breaking randomly, though, so some are always missing :( [15:13] pitti: i was looking for ghostscript-dbgsym, seems to be missing for 8.71.dfsg.1-0ubuntu5.4 [15:13] on lucid [15:14] looks like 8.71.dfsg.1-0ubuntu5 is the only one available atm [15:18] stgraber: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/python/+build/3083012 [15:19] stgraber: https://launchpad.net/~barry/+archive/python/+build/3083013 [15:46] * mneptok pokes all the Unity devs [15:46] https://twitter.com/1990LinuxGuy [15:47] has there been a shortage of patch pilots lately? I've had some pending merges for a month now... like https://code.launchpad.net/~psusi/ubuntu/precise/lm-sensors/merge [16:02] psusi: next round of patch pilots scheduled for next week, there haven't been any scheduled since Dec 23 === pgraner` is now known as pgraner [16:26] micahg: ahh, I see... thanks [16:57] mvo, around? [17:00] janimo: yes [17:01] janimo, mvo: I won't be part of the vegetarian caravan later on - we moved out team dinner to today [17:02] dholbach, me neither, was just pm-ing mvo [17:02] dholbach, janimo: aha, ok [17:34] kees, ping [17:42] Will there be another unstable import before the import freeze? [17:44] lazka: no, that was yesterday [17:44] lazka: and we were only syncing from testing [17:44] lazka: feel free to file a sync request (preferably from testing unless there's a reason to sync from elsewhere) [17:44] oh :( [17:45] lazka: see requestsync in ubuntu-dev-tools [17:45] ok, I will do when it hits testing in some days [17:45] thanks [17:51] micahg, hey, but what about merge bugs filed before yesterday? [17:52] I mean, I opened 5 o 6 merge bugs that are still pending [17:52] l3on: we can still merge/sync, this was only for the autosync [17:52] ah ok micahg :) [17:59] I probably would have done one more autosync but the new autosync script had already caused enough chaos [18:00] requestsync works nicely. I was impatient :) === andreas__ is now known as ahasenack [18:20] hi, can someone sponsor/review the python-tz upload for lucid, maverick, natty and oneiric? (SRU) [18:21] ahasenack: i can't review them now, but i don't see anything on the sponsorship queue [18:22] broder: would that be https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= ? What did I forget to do? [18:22] ahasenack: oh, they've already been uploaded then [18:22] you're waiting for someone from ubuntu-sru to review them now [18:22] might be sluggish since they're all rallying [18:23] broder: ah, ok [20:15] ea/win 3 === salem_ is now known as _salem === RoAkSoAx is now known as roaksoax === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:07] patch pilot or not, can some dev please confirm and subscribe u-a on this sync request: bug 908711 [22:07] Launchpad bug 908711 in s3switch (Ubuntu) "Please sync s3switch 0.1-1 from Debian testing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/908711 [22:26] did it [22:28] but I forgot to sponsor it. oops. === Alcine is now known as jalcine === jalcine is now known as JackyAlcine === JackyAlcine is now known as jalcine