[01:46] <snap-l> Hey all,
[01:46] <snap-l> who still has a link to the old Ubuntu calendar?
[01:47] <jjesse> hi
[03:14] <brousch> snap-l: the old?
[03:14] <brousch> i use http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-michigan/ical
[03:15] <snap-l> yeah, the Google Calendar version
[11:41] <snap-l> g'morning
[11:42] <rick_h__> party
[11:43] <snap-l> How are the sprints going?
[12:33] <brousch> halloooo
[12:36] <snap-l> Hallllllooooooo world.
[12:39] <Wolfger> morning
[12:40] <snap-l> Did you know Dell has an auction site?
[12:40] <snap-l> http://dellauctions.com
[12:40] <snap-l> Some older machines, but interesting nonetheless if someone wants some hardware
[12:40] <snap-l> friend got a decent little desktop they're using for a MAME machine on there.
[12:40] <Wolfger> snap-l: I don't know about a link to the Gcal us-mi loco calendar, but I can probably get the link since I have it imported to my personal calendar. Why?
[12:41] <snap-l> Wolfger: The MUG Meeting still shows up at ESD
[12:41] <snap-l> wondering if it could be changed in case someone is still using that old calendar.
[12:41] <snap-l> or have the event removed altogether.
[12:41] <Wolfger> Sure. What should I change it to?
[12:42] <snap-l> 32737 W 12 Mile Rd
[12:42] <snap-l> Farmington Hills, MI 48334
[12:42] <snap-l> Thanks! I deleted my link to it.
[12:42] <snap-l> (like an idiot. ;) )
[12:42] <Wolfger> Hmm. That's odd.
[12:43] <Wolfger> I got a reminder 2 weeks ago for the meeting (which was rescheduled, but not on that calendar). But now I don't seem to have that calendar anymore.
[12:44] <snap-l> Hmmm
[12:44] <Wolfger> Yeah, it's gone.
[12:44] <Wolfger> Maybe greg-g deleted it?
[12:45] <snap-l> Possibly
[12:45] <snap-l> got a note from someone that it wasn't changed.
[12:45] <snap-l> Maybe they had an old link :)
[12:59] <Wolfger> well reply to their note and ask them for it :-)
[13:35] <snap-l> Heh
[13:41] <brousch> ah, beautiful. i found instructions for getting dropbox public link with Dolphin without using nautilus
[13:51] <nullspace> brousch: there are some python scripts to control dropbox
[13:52] <brousch> nullspace: this integrates directly into the right-click menu in dolphin, so it works like nautilus with dropbox
[13:53] <brousch> it's just a .desktop file
[14:07] <snap-l> you can also use the command-line, if you so choose.
[14:07] <snap-l> it's pretty simple, actually.
[14:08] <snap-l> That said, I do loves me some file-manager integration
[14:13] <snap-l> http://openmetalcast.com/2012/01/10/open-metalcast-episode-38-destination-unknown/
[14:28] <brousch> snap-l: the .desktop file just uses the dropbox command line
[15:11] <Wolfger> right-click dropbox in Dolphin? Cool!
[15:27] <brousch> Wolfger: http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=12034&replies=2#post-76494
[15:28] <brousch> piecemeal instructions, but not too bad. first post tells you what file to make where, second post tells you what to put in the file, third post changes "s to `s. then it all works well (for me)
[15:49] <brousch> oooh, nice "The --no-site-packages flag is deprecated; it is now the default behavior."
[15:50] <Wolfger> Interesting. In German, a black eye is a blue eye...
[15:50] <Wolfger> --no-site-packages?
[15:50] <Wolfger> what's that do?
[15:51] <brousch> python virtualenv
[15:51] <brousch> that flag excludes any python modules that are installed locally so you have a nice clean virtualenv
[15:52] <brousch> basically i used it every single time, so it's nice that it;s default now
[16:10] <Wolfger> Oh boy... here comes all the Ubuntu TV hype...
[16:10] <rick_h__> :)
[16:10] <jjesse> more than yesterday?
[16:16] <brousch> hm, just discovered this MBP keyboard does not have a print screen button
[16:18] <Wolfger> jjesse: well, I didn't see any Ubuntu TV questions on AskUbuntu yesterday. Plenty coming today.
[16:18] <jjesse> ah it was all i saw on google+ yesterday
[16:18] <Wolfger> of course that could just be me not paying close attention yesterday
[16:19] <Wolfger> I didn't learn about Ubuntu TV until late in the day
[16:19] <jjesse> google+, twitter and Facebook seemed pretty full of things
[17:32] <snap-l> I wish them all the best re: Ubuntu TV
[17:32] <snap-l> frankly can't muster any give-a-damn about it.
[17:32] <snap-l> (don't watch that much TV)
[17:35] <rick_h__> but but but :P
[17:35] <rick_h__> it's the fuition of the unity idea
[17:36] <Wolfger> insofaras TV's are becoming computers, I'm glad that Ubuntu is out there trying to make better TV's than what will surely come out of other sectors
[17:37] <Wolfger> and I like the idea that (perhaps) we can do away with TV's altogether and just watch shows, sports, and movies from our monitors
[17:38] <snap-l> This is likely not something new for anyone in this channel, but it's interesting: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781593273897.do?imm_mid=07bd40
[17:39] <snap-l> Should get jcastro to go into apoplectic fits. :)
[17:40] <Wolfger> Love the Popeye motif
[17:40] <Wolfger> Oooh... O'Reilly dotd is Git
[17:41] <snap-l> Yeah, once the signal is digital, it's a perfect match for the computer
[17:41] <snap-l> And I already consume a few shows digital-only because I can't be bothered with cable (Daily Show, and Doctor Who)
[18:27] <nullspace> snap-l: wait ubuntu TV? didn't anyone learn from google TV?
[18:33] <snap-l> nullspace: Google TV isn't a failure yet.
[18:34] <brousch> google is supposedly trying it again
[18:39] <nullspace> fail fail fail again
[18:58] <snap-l> Well, it's about breaking into a market
[18:58] <snap-l> and making a device that's compelling
[18:58] <snap-l> Although I saw a tweet that this is about finding a hardware partner more than a finished device
[18:58] <snap-l> Which makes some sense
[18:59] <snap-l> I really would love to know what Mark's 5-10 year goals are, because they have to be fascinating
[19:00] <snap-l> Shuttleworth reminds me of mini-Jobs.
[19:00] <brousch> to crush gates' and jobs' skulls beneath his astronaut boot
[19:01] <snap-l> Friend got me Puscifer's latest album "Conditions of my Parole".
[19:02] <snap-l> Highly recommend it for those of the Maynard James Keenan project bent.
[19:02] <snap-l> Kind of like Pigface in that it's a rotating artst roster.
[19:05] <brousch> i don't know pucifer, maynard james keenan, or pigface
[19:05] <brousch> i assume you are just mumbling incoherently
[19:10] <snap-l> brousch: Maynard James Keenan: Lead Singer for Tool and A Perfect Circle
[19:11] <snap-l> brousch: Puscifer: A band with Maynard James Keenan as the lead, with a rotating roster of musicians
[19:11] <snap-l> brousch: Pigface: Same concept of rotating musicians, but playing INdustrial music
[19:11] <snap-l> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigface
[19:11] <brousch> bah, tool
[19:12] <snap-l> brousch: It's not very tool-like
[19:12] <snap-l> Also, what's wrong with TOol?
[19:12] <brousch> we've covered this before
[19:13] <snap-l> I thought we convinced you before that you're wrong? :)
[19:13] <brousch> i do not like tool snap-l-am
[19:13] <brousch> no, you convinced me you're a bunch of tools :P
[19:13] <snap-l> Do you like A Perfect Circle?
[19:13] <snap-l> or did you not get that far?
[19:13] <brousch> i do not like it
[19:14] <brousch> i think it's mostly the singer
[19:14] <snap-l> Man-o-man
[19:14] <snap-l> How about Porcupine Tree?
[19:14] <brousch> i do not know it
[19:14] <snap-l> (not related to Tool at all)
[19:15] <snap-l> Search for Porcupine Tree: Time Flies
[19:15] <snap-l> and tell me if you like that
[19:15] <brousch> i only listen to openmetalcast music now
[19:16] <snap-l> I find that extremely hard to believe. :)
[19:16] <snap-l> OK, did you like Carthasy?
[19:16] <brousch> i'm a few episodes behind at the moment
[19:17] <snap-l> It was an interview episode
[19:18] <brousch> what happens is that i listen to an episode, note the songs i liked, then go to jamendo/whatever, listen to all of their other music, and download what i likedto incorporate into my local playlists
[19:18] <brousch> sometimes that takes a while and i fall behind
[19:18] <snap-l> no worries
[19:18] <snap-l> I should have a catch-up episode
[19:18] <snap-l> no new music, just different tracks
[19:18] <brousch> heh
[19:19] <snap-l> you're not the only one that's said they're a few episodes behind
[19:19] <brousch> interestingly that means that i would listen more if you'd not put so many good ones on each episode
[19:19] <snap-l> hah
[19:19] <snap-l> Maybe episode 40 will be a catch-up
[19:20] <brousch> what i need is my generic list/queue service so i could push them up there and not worry about losing them
[19:21] <snap-l> There's only so much I can do
[19:21] <snap-l> although, having a music recommendation service might be neat.
[19:22] <brousch> the other problem is while i'm listeing to jamendo i see a song with an interesting tag so i go listen to all the other songs with that tag and find good stuff
[19:22] <snap-l> Download the tracks, put them in Audacity, and you too can have a show.;)
[19:23] <brousch> i refer the best finds back to you after making sure they have not appeared on omc
[19:23] <snap-l> I appreciate that.
[19:24] <snap-l> Frankly since Jamendo is borked it's getting a little harder to find things.
[19:24] <snap-l> Last two shows have been 100% Bandcamp
[19:25] <snap-l> bandcamp usually has a higher signal to noise ratio, but there's still some bands on there that are just awful.
[19:25] <brousch> what is broken on jamendo?
[19:26] <snap-l> New albums aren't showing up nearly as often as they used to
[19:26] <snap-l> U used to be able to browse Jamendo and get several pages of new albums
[19:26] <snap-l> now, I've gone several weeks with only a trickle
[19:44] <brousch> that was weird. adb was using 75% of my CPU and i have never even used it on this computer
[19:45] <snap-l> ad block plus?
[19:46] <brousch> android debug bridge
[19:47] <snap-l> Ah, wasn't familiar with it.
[19:47] <brousch> well you should be!
[19:51] <snap-l> Wll, I will be, once I'm doing Android Development.
[19:51] <snap-l> Sheesh
[19:58] <rick_h__> how we all doing?
[20:00] <snap-l> Doing OK so far, yourslef?
[20:02] <brousch> rick_h__: very well, thanks
[20:02] <rick_h__> tired, late work day. didn't get done until almost 8pm
[20:03] <rick_h__> but relaxing time
[20:03] <brousch> that's why it's a sprint!
[20:03] <rick_h__> party on!
[20:53] <snap-l> What's the group-think on Pro Puppet? Good / bad /awful?
[20:53] <snap-l> http://www.apress.com/9781430230571
[20:56] <rick_h__> meh
[20:57] <brousch> Salt
[20:58] <snap-l> brousch: I understand Meh, but not "Salt"
[20:59] <brousch> http://saltstack.org/
[21:01] <snap-l> Interesting
[21:02] <snap-l> I love that there's no longer just naming conventions for projects, but whole naming-ecosystems
[21:02] <snap-l> salt has "grains"
[21:56] <nullspace> see and here I thought it was a way to easily salt your hashes
[21:58] <nullspace> snap-l: crap I just realized I didn't play "we three kings come" from kamelot before or during christmas last year
[23:38] <snap-l> Howdy
[23:57] <_stink_> yo