[00:00] <bluezone> kingfisher64,  okay take out the +
[00:00] <Glacia> is there an irc channel for chrome OS linux
[00:01] <kingfisher64> nope, operation not permitted is now the error - bluezone
[00:01] <pangolin> !lais | Glacia
[00:01] <bluezone> hmmm
[00:02] <pangolin> !alis | Glacia
[00:02] <Oer> Glacia, no, only #chromium-os on freenode
[00:02] <Aliv3> on touchpad what does the partition size based on ( ubuntu size maybe ) because it seems the dirs are mounted to the normal touchpad partition ( plz pm with partition, im going afk for a while )
[00:02] <Troy_> why would you want chrome os
[00:02] <Glacia> oh sweet ty pangolin
[00:03] <erkan^> is .ogg music ? or from video too?
[00:03] <Chotaz> how do i disable auto-extract on sabnzbd+?
[00:03] <bluezone> kingfisher64, where is this folder located?
[00:03] <Troy_> alis blows
[00:03] <JoeyJoeJo> How can I tell if I'm running on Ubuntu server or just regular Ubuntu?
[00:03] <JairunCaloth> cat /etc/lsb-release
[00:04] <Oer> JoeyJoeJo, you can do both, did you install a desktop ontop of your server ?
[00:04] <JoeyJoeJo> It doesn't say anything about server in there, so that means it's just regular ubuntu, right?
[00:04] <kingfisher64> from file system root it's var/www folder - bluezone
[00:04] <JoeyJoeJo> Oer: I didn't install it, but it does have gnome
[00:04] <JairunCaloth> JoeyJoeJo: yes
[00:05] <lowric> hello
[00:05] <MindALot> Greetings....
[00:05] <bluezone> kingfisher64, i just did sudo chmod 660 (some folder in home/[your user]) and it worked, i think it would work if you made some folder web/www in your home directory
[00:05] <lowric> I am in search of some assistance
[00:05] <bluezone> kingfisher64, and then applied the command
[00:06] <OzK> c.globalchat.org
[00:06] <Troy_> joe75: then it is regular ubuntu
[00:06] <MindALot> what does it mean if ubunto 11.10 seems to be stuck on the load screen ? ( we see Ubunto 11.10, and 4 dots that are changing colors)  - booting from a live USB on a relatively new pc.  The boot worked fine on another pc built with similar parts - although the troubling pc required nomodoset to get to the current location.
[00:06] <JairunCaloth> lowric: sure, that's what this channel is for. Ask your question and if someone knows how to help you they will answer.
[00:07] <nosleep77> loweric, that is a good search :)
[00:08] <MontyOnTheRun> Hello. Need help about Ubuntu on Macintosh. Anyone can help me or redirect me to a channel to help me?
[00:08] <lowric> Is anyone able to (willing too is more like it) help me with a few questions about installing Ubuntu. I've been having some issues.
[00:08] <bluezone> MontyOnTheRun, ask the question first ^.^
[00:08] <lowric> Alright
[00:09] <JairunCaloth> MontyOnTheRun: There is also a subforum on the ubuntu forums dedicated to running ubuntu on Macs.
[00:09] <lowric> so I've Installed Ubuntu onto my netbook but it will not run when i boot it.
[00:09] <MontyOnTheRun> Grub2 takes ages ( sometimes freezes ) to load. It never takes any of my input.  Does grub1 work with UEFI
[00:10] <MontyOnTheRun> ?
[00:10] <lowric> it goes past the <f2><f12> #ubuntudeal
[00:10] <lowric> main screen deal*
[00:10] <MontyOnTheRun> JairuCaloth, I`m well aware of those. The problem is that there are a lot of conflicting and outdated information there.
[00:11] <kingfisher64> bluezone - i'm going to learn a lot more about ubuntu in the up and coming months - I just wanted to copy all my content from win7 over first. What is the full command for file system > var > www ? would it be sudo cmod 660 var/www?
[00:12] <lowric> i cant seem to be able to run ubuntu with out my computer having to access the flash card i origonally installed it off of.
[00:12] <tjf> what is the program in GNOME that lets you change what opens when you click a link?
[00:12] <lowric> i reboot and i get a flashing underscore on a black screen that doesnt change
[00:12] <JairunCaloth> MontyOnTheRun: That is unfortunatly the case sometimes. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of its existance.
[00:13] <MontyOnTheRun> JairunCaloth - I know and understand ;-) Hope I didnt sound rude or anything
[00:13] <JairunCaloth> MontyOnTheRun: No worries :)
[00:14] <bluezone> kingfisher64, yes but i'm not sure it will let you change the permissions in such a critical folder, so i suggest making another folder in home/[yourName]/www   and then running chmod 660 /home/[yourName]/www and then working from that folder
[00:14] <MontyOnTheRun> The most tragic is that the LiveCD boot instantly
[00:14] <MindALot> hrm - okay - we pressed ctl-alt-f1 - and we see the boot log .. the last thing we see is usbhid : USB HID core driver
[00:15] <bluezone> rofl
[00:15] <MindALot> we can press keys and we see echo - so it's not locked up ... but we don't know why ubunto is not loading
[00:15]  * MindALot sighs
[00:15] <amaroks> Hi, any easy way to change ubuntu theme?
[00:15] <MontyOnTheRun> Is there any way to boot from ISOLINUX without GRUB? ( crazy idea, I know )
[00:15] <amaroks> plenty out there, but complex to get them running and no tool in ubuntu to do that
[00:15] <JairunCaloth> lowric: where does it go to that screen? As soon as you power it on, or directly after POST?
[00:16] <kingfisher64> bluezone - i think that could cause problems with apache. it has the document root set to var/www so i'd have to start altering config options to change that. I find it so odd that there isn't just a "over ride permissions" feature on click of the permissions tab.
[00:16] <fellayaboy> has anyone updated their virtual box client??
[00:16] <MontyOnTheRun> gonna try something crazy here...Thanks for listening anyway =-)
[00:16] <lowric> Im having installation issues. Ubuntu doesnt want to run after i've installed the program. I reboot and a black screen with a flashing underscore appears at the top left hand corner. nothing comes of it if i let it sit.
[00:17] <amaroks> Hi, any easy way to change ubuntu theme?
[00:17] <Star_Light> lowric you should use alcohol 120 in order to copy .iso files effectively
[00:17] <bluezone> amaroks, right click desktop, change desktop background
[00:17] <KrisDouglas> amaroks: not in unity, no.
[00:18] <lowric> star_light you mean to set it to a flash card?
[00:18] <fellayaboy> amaroks go to gnome-look.org for other themes
[00:18] <amaroks> there are nice theme son web
[00:18] <amaroks> but How to install them
[00:18] <amaroks> ?
[00:18] <amaroks> and straight-forward tutorial for latest ubuntu
[00:18] <amaroks> ?
[00:18] <bluezone> kingfisher64, hmm
[00:18] <FloodBot1> amaroks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <Star_Light> lowric I only know about cd's
[00:18] <Star_Light> I had the same problem
[00:19] <amaroks> I did not flood,  but I was getting internet cuts off
[00:19] <MindALot> so ah... if we can't seem to get ubuntu to load on a pc - any suggestions on another live CD OS ?   We just want to test the network device on the pc
[00:19] <JairunCaloth> lowric: how did you make the flash card?
[00:19] <lowric> Im using a netbook. No CD drive. I've been having a heck of a time with this.
[00:19] <zelozelos> MindALot, mint is a good one
[00:19] <overclucker> lyrae_: try convert with -scale 200x125\!
[00:19] <zelozelos> MindALot, or DSL
[00:19] <MindALot> I'll try mint
[00:20] <KrisDouglas> amaroks: You need to use Gnome to use those themes. They have basically been disabled in the latest release.
[00:20] <lowric> And now  i cant use the computer with out the flash card in it running Ubuntu on the test
[00:20] <Star_Light> lowric sorry I don't know anything about netbooks
[00:20] <amaroks> How do I use gnome? I think I have unity?
[00:20] <Diamondcite> lowric: Which netbook model?
[00:20] <KrisDouglas> amaroks: you can, afaik, change the GTK theme, ive not found an easy way to do it yet.
[00:20] <Star_Light> I only remember that you need alcohol in order to copy right .iso files
[00:21] <lowric> Aspire one.
[00:21] <JairunCaloth> lowric: I've had good luck installing on machines without CD drives using a netboot install. Also Unetbootin is a program to make bootable USB disks. It might be able to make flash disks work.
[00:21] <kingfisher64> bluezone - i'm not going to give in. I've installed nearly everything from win7 now. I just need to learn a bit about wine to get photoshop/illustrator working, this permissions issue and how to replicate/move the dock on the left. thank you for trying to help me. I:)
[00:21] <bluezone> kingfisher64 okay i just tried it it seems to be working
[00:21] <lowric> i dont see how that has any bearing
[00:21] <bluezone> kingfisher64, i know how to move that launcher
[00:21] <lowric> sweet thats Jairuncaloth
[00:22] <Diamondcite> lowric: More detail, trying to figure out which graphic chip is inside. The blinking white cursor happens when it can't start the user interface.
[00:22] <lowric> ohhh ok.
[00:22] <kingfisher64> it's on the left and i was hoping to move it to the bottom and create another at the top for less used apps. bluezone
[00:22] <bluezone> kingfisher64, http://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/how-to-move-unity-launcher-panel-to-bottom-of-screen-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[00:22] <Diamondcite> lowric: If you use ctrl+alt+F1 you can bring yourself to a basic login prompt for command line.
[00:23] <JairunCaloth> lowric: for a super easy netboot setup, there is a script somewhere that you run from annother machine that is booted into a live CD. It downloads the required packages and configures everything. From there you just configure the machine you want to install to boot from PXE or network.
[00:23] <bluezone> kingfisher64, as for the other issue i was able to navigate to /var and then execute sudo chmod 660 www with no problems
[00:24] <JairunCaloth> lowric: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
[00:24] <JairunCaloth> I used that to install xbmc live on my little TV computer.
[00:25] <bluezone> kingfisher64, afterwards if it doesn't work you can always try chmod 666
[00:25] <kingfisher64> bluezone - ok then it must be me typing the wrong path. sudo chmod 660 var/www? i've tried a few combos. sudo chmod 660 home/phil/var/www/ are these paths incorrect. My username is phil
[00:26] <hicham> me it gives me a message error saying (there seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks.)
[00:26] <hicham> any help please
[00:26] <KrisDouglas> its /var/www
[00:26] <leontopod> can I ask a kubuntu question here, or will I be disemboweled?
[00:26] <bluezone> kingfisher64, yeah sorry about that it should jsut be var/www i think i missled you :S
[00:26] <KrisDouglas> bluezone: its /var/www
[00:27] <zelozelos> can someone see me?
[00:27] <hicham> when i try to install a programm it give me a msg (there seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks.
[00:27] <hicham> any help please
[00:27] <KrisDouglas> hicham: you don't need to repeat yourself. Someone will assist when they can.
[00:27] <Oer> LoLz@ bluezone unity at the bottom, looks like KDE
[00:27] <leontopod> speaking of kde...
[00:28] <leontopod> I am trying to install firefox on kubuntu and it's not letting me... I have internet connectivity
[00:28] <KrisDouglas> hicham: what exactly is the message?
[00:28] <leontopod> shouldn't it do an apt-get under the covers?
[00:28] <hicham> which is?
[00:29] <bluezone> KrisDouglas, yeah but i think the terminal understand that var/www is actually /var/www ^.^
[00:29] <bluezone> understands*
[00:29] <esph> I just installed from a live-usb, and then decided it would be a good idea to update everything, so I started up the update manager and hit the Install Updates button. However, it has now been sitting at the "Applying changes" "Waiting" dialog for about a half hour with no sign of progress (the progress bar has not filled in at all). Is there a way to check that it's actually working?
[00:29] <KrisDouglas> bluezone: not on any system I've used recently unless your working path is /
[00:29] <leontopod> 'The package "firefox-kde-support" has not been found among your software sources.  Therefore it cannot be installed'
[00:29] <leontopod> ?
[00:30] <KrisDouglas> hicham: what is the message you get when it fails?
[00:30] <bluezone> KrisDouglas, oh, mine was, xD
[00:30] <hicham> there seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks.
[00:31] <bluezone> kingfisher64, if your not in "/" you should type sudo chmod 660 /var/www sorry :P
[00:31] <slugzzz> So.. I accidentaly deleted libstdc++.so.6 from /usr/lib/ ... it turns out this file is important...
[00:31] <slugzzz> Help?
[00:31] <kingfisher64> bluezone - ok i must have edited the permissions as now if i click on the var/www folder it says i don't have the permissions to view the contents
[00:32] <bluezone> kingfisher64, okay do 666 instead
[00:32] <bluezone> kingfisher64, i usually do 777 to avoid all this but people tell me off if i suggest that so i didn't suggest that ^.^
[00:33] <kingfisher64> bluezone - thanks so much it's working. i did 666 and it's letting me accesss folder. I might temporarily change it to 777 just to copy over my content
[00:34] <KrisDouglas> bluezone: Would it not be easier to access the folder with "sudo nautilus /var/www"? Saves you opening up the permissions
[00:34] <bluezone> KrisDouglas, yeah but i think he wants to use ftp to transfer the files or something else
[00:35] <slugzzz> So.. I accidentaly deleted libstdc++.so.6 from /usr/lib/ ... it turns out this file is important...
[00:35] <slugzzz> Help?
[00:35] <bluezone> kingfisher64, cool
[00:35] <dr_willis> slugzzz:  boot live cd, chroot in, reinstall package that has it..
[00:35] <KrisDouglas> slugzzz: Why not google the file name and re-download it
[00:35] <dr_willis> !find libstdc++.so.6
[00:36] <kingfisher64> bluezone - hallelujah it's doing it. Kingfisher64 does a little dance!!!
[00:36] <bluezone> lol
[00:36] <slugzzz> So, just install any package that has it?
[00:36] <dr_willis> reinstall THE package that has it...
[00:36] <dr_willis> !find /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
[00:36] <KrisDouglas> slugzzz: should only be one..
[00:37] <_jason> slugzzz: run dpkg -S on the file you deleted
[00:37] <dr_willis>  i would guess its   libstdc++6
[00:37] <dr_willis> is that the only file you removed by mistake?
[00:37] <slugzzz> Okay... is there a apt instance for it... or can I get it via wget... sorry, without it I can't open up a web browser
[00:37] <slugzzz> Yes, it's the only file.
[00:38] <hicham> the message says An unhandlable error occured there seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks.
[00:38] <dr_willis> if the system works via terminak, you can try a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall  libstdc++6'  perhaps
[00:38] <kingfisher64> bluezone - have you been using ubuntu for a while? i just installed it yesterday to try and move away from windoze. It appears to be miles better.
[00:38] <lowric> alright
[00:39] <lowric> Ctrl+alt+F1 took me to a place i had no knowledge of what to do
[00:39] <lowric> i was scared. the walls closed in around me.
[00:39] <dr_willis> !console | lowric
[00:39] <slugzzz> Ha! Apparently I can't use apt without libstdc++
[00:39] <lowric> Okay
[00:40] <lowric> well i wasnt meaning to get into the command prompt
[00:40] <dr_willis> slugzzz:  yep. its a rather critical lib.
[00:40] <KrisDouglas> slugzzz: wget the deb file and dpkg -i <filename> it
[00:40] <bluezone> kingfisher64, don't really use it often mainly because of windows word's more advanced spellcheck ( i may be wrong about this but last time i checked this was an issue for me), and ... well... games ^.^
[00:40] <slugzzz> Okay.. gotta find the wget addy.
[00:40] <bluezone> kingfisher64, other than that i think it's better in almost every other aspect
[00:40] <Diamondcite> lowric: But I thought it was a good place to try to trouble shoot your lack of graphics?
[00:40] <tellone> what is the purpose of the /dev/log file?
[00:40] <psymole> Hi can anyone try this command to see if totem is segfaulting only on my machine "totem --help"
[00:40] <lowric> well okay, someone said something about a prog. to use that'd write .iso files onto a flash card for the boot up phase so i could properly install ubuntu on my net book. any prog. suggestions?
[00:41] <Diamondcite> lowric: Err hrm.. how did ubuntu end up on the netbook to begin with?
[00:41] <lowric> oh lol, diamondcite, i saw many graphics that round.
[00:41] <lowric> well, i used a flash card.
[00:42] <kingfisher64> bluezone - would wine not run your games? I've only got 1 pc game - crysis, hope that works
[00:42] <Diamondcite> If the installer worked.. then it should have booted...
[00:42] <bluezone> kingfisher64, eh, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't, and when they do they work less well
[00:43] <Diamondcite> appdb.winehq.org to check how well the games work.
[00:43] <lowric> i plugged in the card with ubuntu, rebooted. pressed F12 told it to boot off the card. The card ran Ubuntu test funz. I told it to install ubuntu. It said it installed it. and when i reboot it brings me to the Flashing underscore.
[00:43] <ari> test
[00:43] <ari> test
[00:44] <Diamondcite> ari: test completed?
[00:44] <bluezone> kingfisher64, don't think it's going to work tbh, especially now since ea is using that disgusting origin system
[00:44] <ari> sorry about that, I am trying to figure something out
[00:44] <KrisDouglas> Don't quote me on it but im sure my GF got origin running in Wine
[00:45] <mody_> so New ubuntu doesnt support theme?
[00:45] <lyrae_> overclucker, thank you
[00:45] <mody_> just because it comes with Unity we cant install themes easily?
[00:45] <kingfisher64> bluezone - origin, is that some form of encryption system?
[00:46] <A-KO|lapt> Having trouble with Ubuntu networking. I've removed network manager due to lack of a real concise way to manage it via the CLI (if someone could point to resources on that, that'd be great if it would help)--but having removed network manager, I am now having issues with eth0 coming up. It's saying RTNETLINK: File exists when I attempt to restart networking. Any ideas? 11.10
[00:46] <Diamondcite> lowric: Silly thing.. could you reload the flash card and tel it to check disk contents on itself to make sure no files needed for install was corrupted?
[00:46] <bluezone> kingfisher64, no no it's their dumb software, similiar to steam
[00:46] <KrisDouglas> kingfisher64: yes, a form of DRM and download manager, like steam i guess
[00:46] <lowric> what i was planning on doing was installing it on another flash card.
[00:46] <lowric> then running the boot off that card.
[00:47] <lowric> i just dont know what program to use to install the Iso files onto the card.
[00:47] <bluezone> kingfisher64, crysis 1 or 2?
[00:47] <Diamondcite> lowric: I don't know if that flash card can even store data properly
[00:47] <kingfisher64> bluezone - i hate steam,used to use it for football manager. these companies are ridiclious with their copy protection nonsense. If someone is determined enough... it only penalises the legit users
[00:47] <psymole> Hi can anyone try this command to see if totem is segfaulting only on my machine "totem --help"
[00:47] <bluezone> kingfisher64, yeah
[00:47] <lowric> thats where im trying the different card. the new card im going to use has a larger storage capacity too
[00:47] <kingfisher64> bluezone - 1 on pc, 2 on xbox360
[00:47] <KrisDouglas> I think steam is a work of art, conversely.
[00:48] <lowric> i dont know what to use though to install the ISO, someone gave me a suggestion. Im thinking it may work better then the last program i used but i cant remember what it was .
[00:48] <bluezone> KrisDouglas, according to me it's resource hogging, slow, and useless
[00:48] <lowric> i was told, then i pressed ctrl+alt+f1.
[00:49] <lowric> and promptly forgot
[00:49] <dr_willis> lowric:  pendrivelinux web site has tools to put iso files on usb or other sd cards youc an then boot from. ubuntu has tools built in, or for 11.10+ you can use the dd command.
[00:49] <harrys1> hi all. how to share a movie on a pc running ubuntu with apple tv running XBMC 11 all connected on a same wireless home router network?
[00:50] <hicham> i fixed it thank you guys.the problem was in aptdaemon packege i reinstall it with synpatic
[00:50] <harrys1> i downloaded a movie and want to be able to watch on my HDTV throught my apple tv with XBMC on it
[00:50] <rangeles2> How can I get into recovery mode on 11.10, I need to get into terminal to fix my ATI graphics driver
[00:50] <bluezone> kingfisher64, im going to try installing origin hehe
[00:51] <kingfisher64> bluezone, KrisDouglas - i'm getting an error splicing file notice when copying files from win7 to ubuntu11.10 on some files. do you know if it's something i'm doing wrong in ubuntu. I just copied/paste
[00:51] <harrys1> anyone have any idea?
[00:51] <lowric> thanks dr_willis
[00:51] <somsip> !patience | harrys1
[00:51] <KrisDouglas> kingfisher64: have a look at WinSCP
[00:51] <kingfisher64> is that a ubuntu app?
[00:52] <KrisDouglas> kingfisher64: Ive got a feeling ive seen that before using windows explorer FTP. No windows app
[00:52] <rangeles2> How can I get into recovery mode on 11.10, I need to get into terminal to fix my ATI graphics driver?
[00:52] <kingfisher64> KrisDouglas - does anything work properly in windoze? lol
[00:52] <KrisDouglas> rangeles2: hold shift after bios, select recovery mode on grub screen
[00:52] <Skeme> hold shift on the login then choose recovery mode
[00:52] <KrisDouglas> kingfisher64: good question
[00:52] <Skeme> *boot not login
[00:52] <kingfisher64> KrisDouglas - apart from virus's and blue screens lol
[00:52] <dr_willis> rangeles2:  seelct recovery at the grub menu, or use the text option.
[00:52] <AriJ_> xchat-gnome --help
[00:52] <dr_willis> !recovery
[00:53] <dr_willis> rangeles2:  tap the shift key as its booting to have grub show - if its hidden
[00:53] <rangeles2> thanks
[00:54] <lowric> what about linux live? any opinions?
[00:54] <dr_willis> lowric:  'linux live' meaning what exactly?
[00:54] <rangeles2> Can you guys help me the ATI drivers correctly, Please
[00:54] <rangeles2> *install ATI drivers correctly
[00:55] <lowric> dr_willis: its a program i used origonally to install the .iso onto the flash card and put myself into the mess im in right now :D
[00:55] <KrisDouglas> rangeles2: what card do you have?
[00:55] <dr_willis> lowric:  theres dozens of tools to do that task.
[00:55] <KrisDouglas> lowric: see: unetbootin
[00:55] <dr_willis> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/    has differnt ones for differnt needs also
[00:56] <lowric> nyea, alright. thats the one thanks krisdouglas
[00:56] <SJrX> What's a good wireless USB adapter that supports 802.11N (5.0 GHz band)
[00:56] <psymole> Hi can anyone try this command to see if totem is segfaulting only on my machine "totem --help"
[00:56] <psymole> Hi can anyone try this command to see if totem is segfaulting only on my machine "totem --help"
[00:56] <psymole> Hi can anyone try this command to see if totem is segfaulting only on my machine "totem --help"
[00:56] <FloodBot1> psymole: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <rangeles2> oh boy it says, Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[00:56] <bluezone> kingfisher64, :O it seems origin is working!!!
[00:56] <KrisDouglas> rangeles2: did you use sudo?
[00:57] <heinz> rangeles2: disk full?
[00:57] <rangeles2> no
[00:57] <rangeles2> yes I used sudo
[00:58] <dr_willis> could be a disk error - has remounted it read only.
[00:58] <michaelgamble> hey anyone here want to explain what adducer --diabled-password does?
[00:58] <dr_willis> does 'mount' show it mounted as 'rw' or 'ro'
[00:58] <michaelgamble> frig autocorrect
[00:58] <michaelgamble> erg
[00:58] <michaelgamble> adduser -disabled-password
[00:58] <michaelgamble> I'm following a tutorial and i don't quiet understand what that is doing
[00:58] <miller618> het
[00:59] <miller618> hey
[00:59] <dr_willis>  Like --disabled-login, but logins are still possible (for example using SSH RSA keys) but not using password authentication.
[00:59] <dr_willis> You can ssh in via key..but not password.. it seems
[00:59] <rangeles2> KrisDouglas, oh man I can't do anything on my system not even install the ATI drivers
[00:59] <kingfisher64> bluezone - what's origin?
[00:59] <rangeles2> can't update not upgrade not install anything
[00:59] <KrisDouglas> rangeles2: sounds like there's some serious mess
[00:59] <kingfisher64> bluezone - glad it's working for you though
[01:00] <miller618> does anyone know of a linux program to open a pka file ?? "cisco packet tracer"
[01:00] <bluezone> kingfisher64, http://www.origin.com/us/about
[01:00] <KrisDouglas> kingfisher64: mentioned it earlier, EA version of Steam
[01:00] <rdeschain> hey, i'm having difficulty with something.  anybody know a more correct way of encoding base64 than "echo foo | base64 -" ?
[01:00] <rangeles2> it says "Not using locking for readonly lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:01] <rdeschain> the issue with that command is that it's base64 encoding a newline after the foo string
[01:01] <dr_willis> rangeles2:  check output of 'mount' see if your fs is mounted read only for some reason
[01:01] <KrisDouglas> rangeles2: can you "cd ~/" and then "touch hello"
[01:01] <KrisDouglas> or what dr_willis said
[01:01] <miller618> how can i ope pka files?
[01:01] <kingfisher64> bluezone, KrisDouglas - i've got the memory of a goldfish!!! did you get it running properly in ubuntu or via wine?
[01:01] <miller618> open
[01:01] <michaelgamble> what if i made the user first with a password, is their a way after the fact i can --disable-password
[01:01] <Glacia> how do i change my monitor settings in 11.10
[01:02] <popsch> is there a way to delete all gvfs metadata for all files in a directory? nautlius crashes on pressin F5 in that directory
[01:02] <dr_willis> michaelgamble:  be sure to have other users with full admin/sudo rights befor you do that.
[01:02] <michaelgamble> yeah i will
[01:02] <michaelgamble> I'm trying to get around what seems to be a broken / partial tutorial
[01:02] <bluezone> kingfisher64, wine
[01:02] <michaelgamble> so what command would i use if the user already exists
[01:03] <overclucker> rdeschain: echo -n
[01:03] <Skeme> rdeschain: take the spaces out and wrap in quotes?.. e.g echo "foo"|base64
[01:03] <deper29> hey guys, having trouble installing MATLAB on my machine. I mounted my iso, and when I try to run the installer I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/798855/ I verified that I /tmp is writable, any suggestions??
[01:03] <rdeschain> overclucker, thanks, that is the solution =)
[01:03] <iceroot> michaelgamble: usermod with --lock  to disable the login-possibility or set EXPIRE DATE
[01:03] <iceroot> michaelgamble: also see "man usermod"
[01:03] <rangeles2> how can I install the ATI drivers through CLI?
[01:04] <rdeschain> Skeme, quotes didn't work either... i guess echo -n strips the newline
[01:04] <iceroot> !ati | rangeles2
[01:04] <dr_willis> rangeles2:  sudo jockey-text    perhaps...
[01:04] <Skeme> aww yes it does! good stuff!
[01:04] <mike85> i have lubuntu - how can i install ubuntu on top of it (i.e., gnome?)
[01:04] <michaelgamble> so if i do that after the fact that would have the same effect as adduser --disabled-password then huh
[01:04] <dr_willis> mike85:  install ubuntu-desktop package.
[01:04] <kingfisher64> bluezone - wine looks like a wonderful piece of software. i'm going to get into that tomorrow.
[01:05] <iceroot> mike85: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <michaelgamble> ill give it a try
[01:05] <mike85> dr_willis thank you very much
[01:05] <michaelgamble> i don't quiet get why thats needed in the tutorial I'm following
[01:05] <mike85> iceroot thank you very much
[01:05] <iceroot> michaelgamble: what is your reason to disable the password? you want a user which is not able to loin?
[01:05] <michaelgamble> anyone feel like taking a peek
[01:05] <michaelgamble> http://sparkleshare.org/set-up-a-host/
[01:05] <KrisDouglas> kingfisher64: I actually developed an app in Windows specifically to run in wine for a bet with my boss :P
[01:05] <``PeeR> I got Kubuntu 11.10 ... I didn't find how to access my computer from windows.
[01:06] <iceroot> !samba | ``PeeR
[01:06] <iceroot> ``PeeR: and please remove the ``PeeR from your nick, its hard on qwertz
[01:06] <A-KO|lapt> Having trouble with Ubuntu networking. I've removed network manager due to lack of a real concise way to manage it via the CLI (if someone could point to resources on that, that'd be great if it would help)--but having removed network manager, I am now having issues with eth0 coming up. It's saying RTNETLINK: File exists when I attempt to restart networking. Any ideas? 11.10
[01:06] <iceroot> ``PeeR: "the ``"
[01:06] <jrp> hello, has anyone gotten mod_perl2 working with perl 5.14? I have perl 5.14 installed via perlbrew, but cannot seem to get mod_perl2 to use it
[01:06] <[PeeR]> is it betteR?
[01:06] <jrp> 11.10 ^
[01:06] <[PeeR]> I can't change for juste PeeR
[01:06] <[PeeR]> hehe
[01:06] <iceroot> [PeeR]: no [ is also hard top reach
[01:06] <rangeles2> most of that is for Mavrick not 11.10
[01:07] <[PeeR]> iceroot, would you be a bit coward? lol are you sure you have a qwerty ?
[01:07] <rangeles2> come one one of you guys must know the command
[01:07] <iceroot> [PeeR]: qwertz
[01:07] <[PeeR]> qwertZ ?
[01:07] <[PeeR]> what is that?
[01:07] <iceroot> [PeeR]: again, yes qwertz (german layout)
[01:08] <bluezone> lol
[01:08] <iceroot> PeeR`: thank you
[01:08] <lucusoid> hi everyone! Installed Ubuntu on USB disk but grub2 takes a lot of time to begin the boot-process. Any idea on how to remedy this?
[01:08] <PeeR``> :) no problem
[01:08] <dr_willis> !info fglrx
[01:08] <Joshhsoj0> I need help, I cant coernet to the internet. I have it plugged in to my router but Ubunto wont detect the network
[01:08] <iceroot> Joshhsoj0: wifi or wired?
[01:09] <Joshhsoj0> wirerd
[01:09] <Joshhsoj0> *wired
[01:09] <michaelgamble> worst food product ever > presidents choice chicken skewer appitezires
[01:09] <michaelgamble> they were on sale for a reason
[01:09] <iceroot> Joshhsoj0: can you please paste the output of "ifconfig" and "cat /etc/resolv.conf"
[01:09] <iceroot> !paste | Joshhsoj0
[01:10] <bluezone> michaelgamble, rofl
[01:10] <Joshhsoj0> mabye, my computer has no internet so i cant realy post whats on it
[01:10] <michaelgamble> honestly, its like beef jerky meets burnt chicken
[01:10] <PeeR``> iceroot,  are you sure you gave me a link to do remote access from windows to Kubuntu ?
[01:10] <Joshhsoj0> but ill see what comes up
[01:10] <bluezone> kingfisher64, were you able to move the unity bar?
[01:11] <rangeles2> oh what is wrong, I keep getting Failed to fetch US.Archive.ubuntu.com
[01:11] <iceroot> PeeR``: you want to access files? or the system directly?
[01:11] <michaelgamble> btw just for the record not a huge fan of synaptic not included in latest ubuntu
[01:11] <rangeles2> I can't download the ATI driver due to this
[01:11] <iceroot> PeeR``: if you want normal remote access, use "putty" on windows to access ubuntu with ssh
[01:11] <iceroot> !ssh | PeeR``
[01:12] <diverdude> I have created a user like this : sudo adduser --system --shell /bin/sh --gecos 'git version control' --group --disabled-password --home /home/git git. But when i am logged in as git and make a sudo command it asks me for a password. What do i then write as password? It should be disabled
[01:12] <PeeR``> ok thanks for SSH, but what if I want to do remote, see the desktop... like the windows remote acess... from windows to Kubuntu
[01:12] <lucusoid> hi everyone! Installed Ubuntu on USB disk but grub2 takes a lot of time to begin the boot-process. Any idea on how to remedy this?
[01:12] <kingfisher64> bluezone - not tried yet. partly because i'm still copying across the files. there was over 320,000+ files!
[01:12] <PeeR``> but I also needed to active ssh so you're usefull man ;)
[01:12] <bluezone> kingfisher64, haha
[01:12] <deper29> anyone able to help??
[01:12] <iceroot> !vnc | PeeR``
[01:13] <iceroot> PeeR``: there is also rdesktop/freenx but that is something like a terminal-server-session instead of viewing the current session
[01:14] <rangeles2> arrrgh....why can't I do a simple update, it keeps saying it can't resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:14] <michaelgamble> hey diverdude you wouldn't by chance be trying to setup sparkleshare?
[01:14] <diverdude> michaelgamble: no its a user for a git repo
[01:14] <miller618> how can i open pka files ?????????
[01:14] <PeeR``> thanks a lot, i'm sure i'm gonna fix it!!
[01:14] <PeeR``> with that!
[01:14] <michaelgamble> only curious because its almost identical issue I'm trying to sort through setting up sparkleshare (which uses git repos)
[01:14] <diverdude> michaelgamble: can you help me
[01:15] <esesbee> quit
[01:15] <lmabc> any body have any good recommendation on the best vpn package for ubuntu that work with iPhone the best?
[01:15] <michaelgamble> my guess is you want to set up an openssh server with an authentication key
[01:15] <diverdude> michaelgamble: yes
[01:16] <diverdude> michaelgamble: but what do i write for sudo passwd?
[01:16] <iceroot> lmabc: the best would be "openvpn" but i bet apple is not supporting free solutions like that
[01:16] <diverdude> michaelgamble: when i do sudo commands
[01:16] <iceroot> lmabc: so the best solution is to destroy the iphone, buy a better product and use free software solutions :)
[01:16] <lmabc> :D
[01:16] <michaelgamble> i don't think you can get around that
[01:16] <kingfisher64> bluezone - KrisDouglas - do you know a good piece of software that finds the latest drivers for ubuntu?
[01:17] <michaelgamble> for me its always the root user password or main admin account password
[01:17] <bluezone> kingfisher64, shouldn't additional drivers cover that?
[01:17] <DFan247> Trying to LiveCD Ubuntu 11.10 on an old computer...got an error... Isolinux: disk error 01, AX = 4200, Drive 82
[01:17] <DFan247> what does that mean?
[01:17] <iceroot> kingfisher64: jockey
[01:18] <kingfisher64> bluezone - i'm not sure what that covers to be honest. I know it cover graphics card, but the latest off all other hardware? i'll have a look at jockey now iceroot - thanks
[01:18] <tellone> is there a special log some were for usb devices?
[01:19] <iceroot> kingfisher64: normally the kernel is providing the drivers you need, jockey is just for "non-free" drivers
[01:19] <bluezone> kingfisher64, usually all i have to get working is the video card drivers so i wouldn't know xD
[01:19] <iceroot> kingfisher64: the rest is part of the kernel or other packages, so the answer is "apt-get" and "jockey"
[01:19] <largetalk> can you help me to see my cpu support kvm? flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts aperfmperf pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm lahf_lm dts
[01:19] <iceroot> kingfisher64: but jockey is not limited just to vga drivers.. its for all non-free drivers
[01:20] <PeeR``> lol got a newbie question
[01:20] <iceroot> largetalk: sure, buy a cpu which is supporting vt-x
[01:20] <PeeR``> my "taskbar"... I removed it!
[01:20] <iceroot> largetalk: you cant "edit" your cpu
[01:20] <SVNDR> Will 'Konversation' run on Ubuntu, or only Kubuntu?
[01:20] <iceroot> SVNDR: also on ubuntu
[01:21] <largetalk> iceroot: so i can't install xen or kvm on my computer?
[01:21] <kingfisher64> bluezone, iceroot - right so the best drivers automatically selected. i'm so used to windoze selecting "the latest" drivers that i assumed i'd have to do some updating to get the hardware performing to the max.
[01:21] <iceroot> SVNDR: you can use every software on kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu and so on
[01:21] <iceroot> largetalk: sure you can
[01:21] <bluezone> iceroot, are you reffering to jockey-gtk?
[01:21] <SVNDR> iceroot: ok thanks
[01:21] <rangeles2> I just install the fglrx driver and all I get is a black screen
[01:21] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | rangeles2
[01:21] <iceroot> largetalk: but not all virtualisation-features will work without vt-x
[01:22] <iceroot> largetalk: also have a look at #xen and #kvm
[01:22] <dwees> Quick question: Wifi worked during the install, no problem, but doesn't work after installing 11.10. How can I enable whatever driver was working from the Live CD?
[01:22] <dwees> The wifi card is an Airlink 101 card
[01:22] <PeeR``> lol got a newbie question ... my "taskbar"... I removed it!
[01:22] <diverdude> if i have a user A which is member of admin group, he is not root. How do i then log in as root?
[01:22] <stevecam> I just watched the video for Ubuntu TV, looks like Unity is becoming more practical, I hope Ubuntu keep this idea and keep Unity off the desktop!
[01:22] <largetalk> iceroot: ok, thanks
[01:22] <diverdude> i mean the real root
[01:23] <PeeR``> diverdud, you don't have to log as root... Do sudo commands
[01:23] <rangeles2> dr_willis, I did not have this issue 2hrs ago, my PC was running fine
[01:23] <diverdude> PeeR``: i know...but i want to understand how to log in as root
[01:23] <iceroot> !root | diverdude
[01:23] <largetalk> iceroot: i know my computer is old enough to die, :-D
[01:23] <iceroot> diverdude: you cant login as root by default
[01:24] <PeeR``> diverdude, you should not even know the password of the root...
[01:24] <iceroot> diverdude: and there is no reason to enable the root-account, use sudo instead
[01:24] <diverdude> iceroot: ok...but its because i created a user with option: --disabled-password
[01:24] <diverdude> iceroot: and when logged in as this user i cannot do sudo
[01:24] <diverdude> iceroot: because it asks me for a password and i dont have one...due to setting --disabled-password
[01:25] <iceroot> diverdude: why this strange combination?
[01:25] <PeeR``> did you try "enter" with no password?
[01:25] <diverdude> PeeR``: yes
[01:25] <PeeR``> doesn't work?
[01:25] <stevecam> How do I get Ubuntu TV?
[01:25] <expertmac2> okay
[01:25] <diverdude> iceroot: because its for ssh
[01:25] <expertmac2> first
[01:25] <rangeles2> shit I can't even get into the damn recovery console now
[01:25] <iceroot> diverdude: having a sudo-user without a password is a very very bad idea
[01:25] <lucusoid> hi everyone! Installed Ubuntu on USB disk but grub2 takes a lot of time to begin the boot-process. Any idea on how to remedy this?
[01:25] <diverdude> iceroot: http://www.ryanwersal.com/blog/2011/10/18/installing-gitlab-on-ubuntu-server/
[01:25] <expertmac2> you jump off a cliff
[01:25] <dr_willis> stevecam:  wait for it to get released.. or use the GIT versions
[01:25] <iceroot> diverdude: because its for ssh?
[01:25] <expertmac2> then you grab a big red wire at the bottom of the cliff
[01:25] <expertmac2> RUN all the way back to your box
[01:26] <expertmac2> and plug 'er into a USB port
[01:26] <iceroot> diverdude: you mean you want to use pup-keys with ssh but not a password?
[01:26] <diverdude> iceroot: yeah...im gonna use it as git user
[01:26] <diverdude> iceroot: yes
[01:26] <rangeles2> how can I get back into the CLI?
[01:26] <iceroot> diverdude: then disable passwords in your ssh config
[01:26] <largetalk> iceroot: how to install xen on ubuntu? and where to download linux kernel support xen
[01:26] <dr_willis> I juste set up ssh where it uses the keys only, i still have a password.
[01:26] <iceroot> largetalk: just install the xen-kernel, thats all
[01:27] <overclucker> diverdude: nowhere in that tutorial does it say that the git user needs sudo.
[01:27] <diverdude> iceroot: hmm or...does it matter if i log in as user A and do sudo stuff or user B and do sudo stuff...isnt that exactly the same?
[01:27] <largetalk>  iceroot: use apt-get? i miss Unable to locate package xen-kernel
[01:29] <iceroot> largetalk: hm i thought there is something like "linux-image-xen" but i cant find it on 12.04. maybe this is what you want xen-hypervisor-4.1-amd64
[01:29] <overclucker> diverdude: use a regular user account with sudo to complete that tutorial
[01:29] <iceroot> largetalk: or the i386 version
[01:29] <iceroot> !xen | largetalk
[01:29] <diverdude> overclucker: yeah ok
[01:30] <SVNDR> I dont know if this is exactly on topic, but is there anyway i can move the channel bar from the bottum to the top in Konversation?
[01:30] <iceroot> diverdude: if both users have a password and a login-shell and are part of the suod group its no difference
[01:30] <leontopod> where can I find a linux driver for a Dell Color Printer 725?
[01:31] <iceroot> SVNDR: its ontopic but maybe have a look at #kubuntu or #konversation to get quicker answers
[01:31] <SVNDR> iceroot: thanks mate
[01:31] <iceroot> largetalk: but are you sure you want xen/kvm instead of vbox?
[01:32] <largetalk> iceroot: i found ubuntu-xen-server ubuntu-xen-desktop in source, is it? btw, my server use ubuntu 10.10
[01:32] <leontopod> how do I search apt to find a linux driver for a Dell Color Printer 725?
[01:32] <iceroot> largetalk: have a look at the link from ubottu about the xen-installation
[01:33] <iceroot> leontopod: apt-cache search searchstring
[01:33] <iceroot> !printer | leontopod
[01:33] <iceroot> leontopod: maybe the first two links are also interesting for you
[01:34] <leontopod> iceroot, I think cups is installed... when my lady friend plugged in the printer to the ubuntu notebook using the usb cable it said "configuring... no printer drivers"
[01:34] <leontopod> so it tried to configure the printer
[01:35] <iceroot> leontopod: you are using ubuntu? and not lubuntu? because in lubuntu there is a bug for printer-drivers
[01:35] <kingfisher64> bluezone - thanks for all your help it was greatly appreciated. i'm off now.
[01:35] <multipass> is there any good reason to use 64bit? is it any faster? or does it just cause more problems?
[01:35] <iceroot> multipass: its not faster but supports more then 4gb memory
[01:36] <iceroot> multipass: there is no reason to use 32bit if your cpu supports 64bit
[01:36] <leontopod> using ubuntu
[01:36] <multipass> ah right, iceroot, forgot that important point :)
[01:37] <largetalk> iceroot: seeing, i want to lanuch lots of os on a computer in publish environment, so i think xen/kvm will better than vbox
[01:37] <leontopod> iceroot, using ubuntu
[01:41] <diverdude> What does it mean to install something with umask 0007?
[01:41] <iceroot> largetalk: yes
[01:41] <dr_willis> diverdude: dosent make a lot of sence to me.
[01:42] <dr_willis> fglrx - Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators
[01:43] <dr_willis> wrong paste.. :)    umask (user mask) is a command and a function in POSIX environments that sets the file mode creation mask of the current process which limits the permission modes for files and directories created by the process.
[01:43] <iceroot> diverdude: it means rwxrwx---
[01:43] <diverdude> dr_willis: its in these short instructions : http://gitlabhq.com/
[01:43] <iceroot> diverdude: umask is the opposite notation of the normal permissions
[01:44] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umask
[01:44] <diverdude> iceroot: opposite? ahhh
[01:44] <diverdude> chmod 770 = umask 007 ?
[01:44] <svndr> /whois $me
[01:44] <iceroot> diverdude: you have to subtract the umask from 1777, so umask 007 means 1777 -(0)007
[01:44] <svndr> gahh
[01:44] <dr_willis> umask u=rwx,g=rwx,o=              ---> is 0007
[01:44] <iceroot> diverdude: 1770
[01:45] <iceroot> diverdude: yes
[01:45] <diverdude> hmmm but why the need for umask then? if it can be expressed with chmod just as fine?
[01:46] <Doodie> lightning 1.1.1 not compatible with thunderbird 8 Ubuntu 11.10, amd 64. any ideas?
[01:46] <iceroot> diverdude: umask will set the default for new files/directories
[01:46] <diverdude> right
[01:46] <iceroot> diverdude: so if you put a umask of 007, every new file will have 770
[01:46] <iceroot> diverdude: the important part is "new"
[01:47] <diverdude> so if it says Install gitolite with umask 0007, I might just as well install it normall and chmod it?
[01:48] <dr_willis> i find the phrase 'install with umask of ...''  to be.. incorrect.. if you RUN  program foo after setting a umask, then that app uses the new mask for all files it makes.
[01:48] <dr_willis> unless that guide is missing somthing, or  i am...
[01:48] <iceroot> diverdude: what about "sudo apt-get install gitolite"
[01:48] <iceroot> !info gitolite
[01:48] <diverdude> iceroot: i have already installed gitolite
[01:49] <diverdude> but not with umask 0007
[01:49] <iceroot> diverdude: so i dont think you have to change permissions for your binarys after the installation
[01:49] <almoxarife> Doodie: what ideas? you brought up four things, where is the issue?
[01:49] <dr_willis> the docs may be saying how to install and then RUN the app with a safer umask...
[01:49] <diverdude> iceroot: but i also do have permission problems though
[01:50] <iceroot> dr_willis: that should be part of the deb/postinst i guess
[01:50] <dr_willis> iceroot:  yep. so ive no idea what the docs are meaning when they say 'install foo with a umask'  - it dosent make sence
[01:50] <iceroot> diverdude: where does the docs came from?
[01:51] <diverdude> iceroot: its here: http://gitlabhq.com/ tight on the front page
[01:51] <dr_willis> for all we know the default apt-get install  gitolite  does set the umask.
[01:51] <iceroot> diverdude: Install gitolite with umask 0007 and add your user to git group
[01:52] <diverdude> iceroot: yeah exactly
[01:52] <iceroot> diverdude: the docs want to tell you "check your config so that new git-files on your machine will have a umask 0007"
[01:52] <diverdude> ahhh
[01:52] <iceroot> diverdude: and that should be already done by dpkg
[01:53] <diverdude> iceroot: but i did not install with dkpg... i cloned the gitolite repo and installed it
[01:53] <iceroot> diverdude: why?
[01:53] <iceroot> !info gitolite
[01:53] <diverdude> iceroot: becasue i followed the instructions on the gitolite homepage
[01:53] <iceroot> !repos | diverdude
[01:54] <iceroot> diverdude: never install software from source
[01:54] <iceroot> diverdude: always use the repos from ubuntu with apt-get (or software-center)
[01:54] <diverdude> iceroot: and i tried the ubunturepo oone and did not make it work
[01:54] <iceroot> !work | diverdude
[01:55] <diverdude> hmm
[01:55] <iceroot> diverdude: you have one big problem when using software from source, you dont get security updates
[01:55] <diverdude> true
[01:55] <iceroot> diverdude: and if it is a web-based software you want security-updates
[01:55] <iceroot> diverdude: because all the web-apps are unsecure like hell
[01:55] <diverdude> maybe i should redo with the ubuntu repo one
[01:55] <iceroot> and even more when php is used
[01:56] <diverdude> iceroot: php is insecure?
[01:56] <iceroot> diverdude: no
[01:56] <iceroot> diverdude: but (almost) everything developed with php
[01:56] <Glacia> how can i test to make sure my 11.10 is 100% correct?
[01:56] <Glacia> installed
[01:56] <diverdude> iceroot: is cakephp insecure?
[01:57] <iceroot> Glacia: dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii | grep -v ^rc
[01:57] <iceroot> diverdude: its just my opinion but every software containing the words "php" is unsecure
[01:57] <diverdude> iceroot: what is not unsecure then?
[01:57] <ossie> anyone checked out ubuntu tv yet? any video links?
[01:58] <oneliner> diverdude: i hope you stay away from facebook then :)
[01:58] <oneliner> for your own "safety"
[01:58] <iceroot> diverdude: not using such software
[01:58] <iceroot> diverdude: but that is just my opionion and maybe there are some apps out there which are secure
[01:58] <ossie> hh
[01:58] <diverdude> iceroot: so not using websoftware?
[01:59] <iceroot> diverdude: use the software you like/want/need but make sure to get security-updates
[01:59] <iceroot> diverdude: and that is not the case if building something from source
[01:59] <iceroot> diverdude: so please, always use the ubuntu-repos
[01:59] <viroscope> may i ask a question
[01:59] <diverdude> iceroot: how do i install gitlab with gitolito from ubuntu repo?
[02:00] <iceroot> diverdude: and if you want great examples of big security-issues, have a look at joomla, phpmyadmin, mediawiki and so on
[02:00] <iceroot> diverdude: sudo apt-get install gitolite
[02:00] <KrisDouglas> PHP isn't that bad if you set it up right
[02:00] <diverdude> iceroot: yes and gitlab?
[02:01] <viroscope> What is the possability or running Ubuntu on a Rasberri Pi ( http://www.raspberrypi.org/ )
[02:01] <dr_willis> viroscope:  i think they were working on a ubuntu image for it.
[02:01] <viroscope> Sweet, That would be amazing
[02:01] <michaelgamble> hey how do i switch to root user in ubuntu terminal so i can run any commands
[02:02] <viroscope> sudo
[02:02] <michaelgamble> right now my main user via initial install
[02:02] <Glacia> iceroot i did that and this is what i get
[02:02] <iceroot> !sudo | michaelgamble
[02:02] <michaelgamble> yeah but i need to sudo into a directory
[02:02] <rangeles2> how can I reset my display driver
[02:02] <dr_willis> viroscope:  read teh faq... http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs
[02:02] <rangeles2> to the default install versions
[02:02] <diverdude> iceroot: ?
[02:02] <iceroot> diverdude: as it seems there is no "gitlab" in the ubuntu-repos
[02:02] <diverdude> iceroot: how can i install gitlab from ubuntu repo?
[02:02] <michaelgamble> sudo cd /home/anotheruser/.ssh gives me a permissions issue
[02:02] <diverdude> iceroot: :(
[02:02] <michaelgamble> actually an error
[02:02] <rangeles2> because this ATI junk is just giving me too much headaches
[02:02] <viroscope> I will take a look no dr_willis
[02:03] <dr_willis> viroscope:  it says not at this time...
[02:03] <Glacia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/798891/
[02:03] <diverdude> iceroot: so then what to do ?
[02:03] <viroscope> Eh have to hack it up a bit  i'm sure
[02:03] <michaelgamble> yesterday i used sudo -l
[02:03] <iceroot> diverdude: its uo to you to install software from other sources
[02:03] <iceroot> michaelgamble: sudo -i
[02:03] <diverdude> iceroot: but its insecure
[02:03] <iceroot> michaelgamble: to open a root-shell
[02:03] <diverdude> iceroot: and frowned upon
[02:03] <iceroot> diverdude: correct
[02:03] <Doodie> I am having trouble having evolution indicator in the task panel. evolution-indicator doesnot seem to work. Why?
[02:04] <michaelgamble> ah oops wrong parameter
[02:04] <diverdude> iceroot: so how do i then get on if ubuntu does not provide the needed software?
[02:04] <diverdude> iceroot: and i need a secure platform
[02:05] <Glacia> iceroot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/798891/
[02:05] <__machine> my vps appears to have maxed out its disk space 100% and looks like apache logs are the culprit... logrotate is configured... but seems it hasnt been rotating for a long time now and the access.log has grown to 1.2GB ... how can i manually run logrotate to make sure it is working? or how is logrotate normally triggered on a schedule?
[02:06] <iceroot> diverdude: hm all tutorials i found is just building it from source
[02:06] <viroscope> How well will Ubuntu handle an 8 core system (Tax returns coming looking to upgrade)
[02:06] <iceroot> Glacia: everything fine then
[02:06] <SoulShadow> !nounity
[02:06] <Glacia> ok ty
[02:06] <dr_willis> viroscope:  i imagine it will work fine.
[02:06] <viroscope> TY
[02:06] <iceroot> viroscope: it will run well like on any other linux-idstro
[02:07] <dr_willis> viroscope:  runs on my 8 core pc...
[02:07] <iceroot> viroscope: 8 cores is not much for linux
[02:07] <diverdude> iceroot: which one was that?
[02:07] <iceroot> diverdude: http://www.ryanwersal.com/blog/2011/10/18/installing-gitlab-on-ubuntu-server/
[02:07] <SoulShadow> !unity
[02:07] <viroscope> I figured as much but decided to ask since it is active in here
[02:08] <diverdude> iceroot: yes thats the one i have been looking at
[02:08] <dr_willis> some apps may not make full use of all teh cores.. but thats an app issue :)
[02:08] <iceroot> __machine: logrotate is called by cron, there should be something in /etc/cron.daily/ or /etc/cron.d/  have a look with "grep -r logrotate /etc/cron*"
[02:08] <diverdude> iceroot: it however uses gitosis which is very bad compared to gitlite according to git exprts
[02:08] <viroscope> usually is.... unlike windows where the os is the issue
[02:08] <diverdude> iceroot: besides gitlab no longer supports gitosis
[02:09] <iceroot> diverdude: sounds like a grea software if you have t build it from source :)
[02:09] <diverdude> iceroot: are you being ironic?
[02:09] <iceroot> diverdude: yes
[02:09] <Glacia>  how do i enable my sound card
[02:09] <lei> Hi, can you tell me the difference within the directory under /root/rpmbuild? like RPMS and SRPMS?
[02:09] <lei> Thanks
[02:10] <iceroot> diverdude: but its up to you to use the software, i warned you about missing security-updates/automatic-updates
[02:10] <diverdude> iceroot: does ubuntu have any git web interface in their repo?
[02:10] <iceroot> lei: the folders are created by your own, so we dont know
[02:10] <testing123321> kismet1
[02:11] <dr_willis> lei:  srpm = source rpm    rpm = compiled binary packages from the srpms.. and ubuntu dosent use rpms......
[02:11] <iceroot> diverdude: have a look at the software-center or "apt-cache search foobar". i dont know because i am not using it, sorry
[02:11] <Glacia> hello reisio
[02:11] <reisio> hello Glacia
[02:11] <diverdude> iceroot: you dont use version control systems???
[02:12] <Glacia> how are you?
[02:12] <iceroot> diverdude: i am not using web-interfacces for that
[02:12] <iceroot> diverdude: but i am also not using git but svn
[02:12] <reisio> Glacia: soluble — you?
[02:12] <diverdude> iceroot: aha
[02:12] <Glacia> hungry and  confused a bit more lol
[02:13] <iceroot> diverdude: gitweb - fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (web interface)
[02:13] <__machine> iceroot: thanks, that did it! ran logrotate manually and found an error in the config...
[02:13] <jayar> when i reboot my ubuntu server, i have to click on the 2nd drive to mount it, how do i do that remotely via ssh?
[02:13] <iceroot> __machine: nice its working now
[02:13] <lei> Thank you dr_willis, when I make rpm, I found the rpm package were generated in all these two directory, so I am a little confused which package under directory I should install.
[02:13] <iceroot> jayar: click? ubuntu-server?
[02:14] <iceroot> lei: dont use rpm
[02:14] <iceroot> !rpm | lei
[02:14] <iceroot> !repos | lei
[02:14] <jayar> yea i just click on mount drive in the drive utility
[02:14] <reisio> Glacia: you should eat the food
[02:15] <iceroot> i am always wondering why people are installing ubuntu-server and putting ubuntu-desktop on top of it instead of directly installing ubuntu
[02:15] <jayar> whatever dude
[02:15] <jayar> i just downloaded ubuntu server and installed it
[02:15] <Glacia> reisio: i need to find audio drive for my computer that will run on linux
[02:15] <reisio> iceroot: instead of what?
[02:15] <jayar> i dont need the gui, it just installed it
[02:15] <iceroot> jayar: put the drive in your /etc/fstab
[02:15] <reisio> Glacia: driver?
[02:15] <jayar> last time i put it in /etc/fstab it screwed it up... and i fixed it
[02:16] <iceroot> !fstab | jayar
[02:16] <jayar> i'm in a different state right now, and nobody can get into my office to fix it if i do it again
[02:16] <Glacia> reisio: yes sorry i forgot the r
[02:16] <jajang> Hi, I've just installed gnome shell, and it's now default when I logged in. How can I revert back to Unity?
[02:16] <iceroot> reisio: ubuntu is the version with gnome/unity, ubuntu-server is the same version without gnome/unity
[02:16] <reisio> jajang: hit the cog at login screen
[02:17] <jayar> why can't i just # sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/160gb ?
[02:17] <dr_willis> jajang:  select ubuntu at the login screen via the gear icon
[02:17] <jayar> or somethin
[02:17] <Doodie> Hi, I have ubuntu classis in ubuntu 11.10 and I want to have Evolution notifier in the top system panel. How can I have it?
[02:17] <dr_willis> jayar:  that mounts it for one time...
[02:17] <jayar> great
[02:17] <jayar> thats what i want
[02:17] <dr_willis> jayar:  if you want it to mount at boot.. add entry to /etc/fstab
[02:17] <dr_willis> !mount | jayar
[02:17] <iceroot> reisio: so installing the serveredition and then installing the gui is exactly the same as directly installing the ubuntu-version (ok server-edition is using pae as default but with 12.04 all will use pae as 32bit default kernel)
[02:17] <reisio> iceroot: that isn't exactly accurate, but I agree it's silly to put a GUI on a server
[02:17] <jayar> when i'm at home in front of it, i'll mess with fstab
[02:17] <jayar> but right now, i'm 1,000miles away
[02:18] <viroscope> remote access FTW
[02:18] <dr_willis> jayar:  and its most likely /dev/sdc1     and be sure /media/160gb exists..
[02:18] <dr_willis> befor mounting
[02:18] <jajang> reisio: But I have Ubuntu set up automatically logged in. If I disable it and choose Unity in login menu, it doesn't stick as default.
[02:18] <Nautilus> in 10.04 LTS is there a built-in way to burn data CDs?
[02:18] <iceroot> jayar: you can test your fstab without a restart
[02:18] <pleasegawd> yea i found ubuntu help... i feel so accomplished...
[02:18] <iceroot> jayar: sudo mount -a
[02:18] <reisio> Nautilus: from nautilus, ironically, I should think
[02:18] <iceroot> Nautilus: brasero
[02:19] <Nautilus> reisio: oh ok, laugh
[02:19] <pleasegawd> ps im lovin it but have so many questions whats the deal here? how do i statr?
[02:19] <iceroot> pleasegawd: just ask your detailed questions
[02:19] <pleasegawd> ok thankyou
[02:19] <Nautilus> i dnot see brasero, that must be what I was looking for, I remember it in 8/04 LTS
[02:20] <testing123321> help
[02:20] <iceroot> !info brasero lucid
[02:20] <iceroot> Nautilus: should be installed by default on 10.04
[02:20] <iceroot> Nautilus: if using ubuntu instead of kubuntu/xubuntu
[02:20] <pleasegawd> give me a moment to get it together there are a few...i recently switched from vista. and im super happy with it. first question is i am having problems with my computer overheating and i find i need to control the fan speed myself for best results how do i do this in ubuntu 11.10?
[02:20] <Nautilus> yes ubuntu.  what menu?  I'm looking all under Applications
[02:21] <Glacia> reisio, yes driver... im running a motion computing le1600
[02:21] <reisio> pleasegawd: any particular computer?
[02:21] <pleasegawd> it is a dell xps 1210m dual core 1.83 x86...
[02:21] <pleasegawd> enough?
[02:21] <jayar> sweet i got it
[02:21] <jayar> thanx all
[02:21] <iceroot> Nautilus: sorry i am not using gnome2 here so i dont know where it is in the menu
[02:22] <pleasegawd> can i turn off notification of who joins and leaves and such?
[02:22] <jayar> and iceroot: i've been meaning to put it into fstab and will when i get back :)
[02:22] <jayar> but thanx anyway!
[02:22] <iceroot> jayar: ok
[02:22] <pleasegawd> nm got it
[02:22] <iceroot> pleasegawd: /IGNORE #channel ALL -PUBLIC -ACTIONS
[02:23] <iceroot> pleasegawd: that the line for irssi, other clients should also work with that
[02:23] <reisio> he's using webchat.freenode.net
[02:23] <pleasegawd> im confused....
[02:23] <pleasegawd> but learn quik
[02:23] <reisio> said you got it already, so move on :p
[02:23] <pleasegawd> i managed to clear the enetering and leaving thing
[02:23] <pleasegawd> yea sorry got it
[02:23] <pleasegawd> ok
[02:24] <diverdude> iceroot: if i do sudo apt-get install gitolite it applies to all users on the system right?
[02:24] <iceroot> pleasegawd: sounds good
[02:24] <pleasegawd> so fan speed?
[02:24] <iceroot> diverdude: correct
[02:24] <pleasegawd> also i use an external acer lcd monitor. do i need to install proprietary drivers from the install disc it came with'
[02:25] <reisio> pleasegawd: not likely
[02:25] <iceroot> pleasegawd: normally the problem is that your system cant read the informations correctly and because of that the fanspeed is not correct and the system is getting hot
[02:25] <dr_willis> pleasegawd:  i doubt if any monitor is going to come with Linux drivers...
[02:25] <reisio> pleasegawd: or require any to be explicitly installed
[02:25] <pleasegawd> are the drivers that are in ubuntu ok
[02:25] <reisio> yes they are
[02:25] <dr_willis> pleasegawd:  monitors normally dont have 'drivers'
[02:25] <pleasegawd> perfect
[02:25] <dr_willis> unless theres some weird fetures of the monitor..
[02:25] <Nautilus> iceroot: thanks, i found that it had to be installed
[02:26] <pleasegawd> i am looking for a manual fancontrol app does one exist?
[02:26] <reisio> pleasegawd: for what computer
[02:26] <pleasegawd> dell xps 1210m
[02:26] <iceroot> Nautilus: hm strange, i though its installed by default but good to hear you fixed it
[02:26] <reisio> pleasegawd: that a laptop?
[02:26] <Nautilus> iceroot: maybe some of the common files but not the UI
[02:27] <pleasegawd> btw its awesome that you guys are chillin here and answering questions for us noobs
[02:27] <pleasegawd> im very much lovin ubuntu and am trying to convert others where i can
[02:27] <pleasegawd> yes sir dell xps 1210m is a laptop
[02:27] <bluezone> denoted by 'm'
[02:27] <dr_willis> pleasegawd:  often the forums have specific threads for specific brand/make laptops and any known issues./work arounds for them
[02:27] <iceroot> pleasegawd: the reason we are doing this here (for free) is because of "that is the way ubuntu and other free software projects are working"
[02:27] <Glacia> hello urlin2u
[02:28] <urlin2u> Glacia, hello.
[02:28] <iceroot> pleasegawd: ubuntu is not just an os but a big community
[02:28] <pleasegawd> which forums should i look thru.
[02:28] <dr_willis> !forums
[02:28] <pleasegawd> i had a program i used for windows can i use wine to run it?
[02:28] <dr_willis> pleasegawd:  and be sure to check out askubuntu.com
[02:28] <iceroot> !appdb | pleasegawd
[02:28] <Glacia> urlin2u,  thank again for the tab it makes chat easier
[02:28] <dr_willis> pleasegawd:  thats what wine is used for.. :)
[02:28] <dr_willis> be back laters...
[02:28] <urlin2u> Glacia, idoes. :D
[02:29] <reisio> pleasegawd: what does the program do
[02:29] <urlin2u> it*
[02:29] <pleasegawd> thx doc
[02:29] <pleasegawd> it gives me manual control of my cooling fan
[02:29] <rangeles2> I'm pretty sure that if one of you guys would take 5mins of your time. This driver issue would have been fixed already
[02:29] <pleasegawd> i just crank it to max, i also would like to knokw my comp temp
[02:29] <Glacia> urlin2u, do you mind helping me
[02:29] <gabepez> hello, I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on how to upgrade a 9.04 server to 9.10... it seems all the update servers are offline.   I was thinking I should be able to do it from the 9.10 iso, but not sure how to force apt to use the mounted cd.
[02:29] <iceroot> !sensors | pleasegawd
[02:29] <reisio> pleasegawd: might not work through Wine :)
[02:29] <urlin2u> Glacia, I can try, I have specialzed ares I'm best in.
[02:30] <iceroot> !eol | gabepez
[02:30] <urlin2u> areas*
[02:30] <iceroot> gabepez: last link
[02:30] <iceroot> gabepez: and 9.10 is also EOL so please update to 10.04
[02:30] <Glacia> urlin2u, trying to get sound working
[02:30] <urlin2u> Glacia, not an area I know much abut sorry.
[02:31] <gabepez> iceroot: thanks, I figured it had to do with EOL, can I go directly to 10.04?
[02:31] <iceroot> gabepez: no
[02:31] <iceroot> gabepez: you can only update from lts to lts or to the next release
[02:31] <pleasegawd> i am an avid WOW player is wine the best choice for me?
[02:32] <iceroot> !lts | gabepez
[02:32] <Glacia> urlin2u, hmmm.... ok ill be back in 30, need to make a food run
[02:32] <rangeles2> How can I re-install the default drivers at least
[02:32] <gabepez> iceroot: cool, thats what I thought.  Thanks
[02:32] <iceroot> !playonlinux | pleasegawd
[02:32] <reisio> pleasegawd: it's a decent choice
[02:32] <Doodie> cannot open synaptic "E:Type 'ain' is not known on line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/goehle-goehle-ppa-oneiric.list"
[02:32] <dagnachewa> hello everyone
[02:32] <reisio> pleasegawd: you could also dual boot and switch to Windows to play games
[02:32] <dagnachewa> does anyone here uses lxc linux container ?
[02:32] <iceroot> pleasegawd: wine is a good choice, there is also "playonlinux" which is a wine-based program setting the correct config for your games
[02:32] <reisio> dagnachewa: taking a poll?
[02:33] <iceroot> !anyone | dagnachewa
[02:33] <gabepez> ubottu, gotcha - thanks
[02:33] <gabepez> lol
[02:33] <iceroot> Doodie: i guess you misstyped "main" as "ain"
[02:33] <dagnachewa> reisio, no I may need an assist
[02:33] <reisio> dagnachewa: #lxcontainer
[02:33] <reisio> dagnachewa: #lxcontainers
[02:34] <pleasegawd> iceroot why do you include the '!' in your response... some text shorthand or something?
[02:34] <Doodie> iceroot, yes, i must have pasted incomplete ppa:... code
[02:34] <almoxarife> Doodie: see the file? at line 3 there is garbage, 'ain' being part of it, remark it out or delete it, i would suggest remarking it out for now
[02:34] <iceroot> pleasegawd: with ! i am calling the bot ubottu to put write you infos
[02:34] <KrisDouglas> apt-add-repository is your friend ;)
[02:34] <iceroot> !ppa | Doodie
[02:34] <pleasegawd> ah cool
[02:35] <iceroot> Doodie: hm i hoped there was the command for adding a ppa, it was something like "sudo add-apt-repository ppa-url"
[02:35] <KrisDouglas> apt-add-repository yup
[02:35] <iceroot> KrisDouglas: thx
[02:36] <KrisDouglas> you need python software tools installed if it isn't already
[02:36] <pleasegawd> hey so why can i not open .rar files in ubuntu. i get this error... Could not open "148024-Conky_Cronograph_Station.rar"
[02:36] <pleasegawd> Archive type not supported.
[02:37] <KrisDouglas> sudo apt-get install unrar, pleasegawd
[02:37] <koshie> Hello
[02:37] <pleasegawd> i type that in terminal dont i?
[02:37] <iceroot> pleasegawd: you are doing it with "right click on the file and choose extract"?
[02:37] <KrisDouglas> yep
[02:37] <diverdude> i keep getting this warning: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/607290825 when i install various packages...what is it and how do i get rid of it`?
[02:37] <koshie> That's possible to export filter settings on Thunderbird from an account to another one ?
[02:38] <Doodie> almoxarife, thanks, solved
[02:38] <iceroot> koshie: i would suggest "irc.mozilla.org" in the channel #thunderbird to get faster help
[02:38] <koshie> Thanks.
[02:39] <KrisDouglas> diverdude: sounds like your pc no speaken en enlglish. But seriously it seems you have some unset environment variables, for lack of  a better description.
[02:39] <iceroot> koshie: maybe there are also thunderbird-addons available for that
[02:39] <pleasegawd> ok well for some reason the terminal icon is not on the side bar? what did i do? isnt there a short hand keystroke?
[02:39] <koshie> iceroot, I hope ! I've a lot of filter...
[02:39] <KrisDouglas> Check your settings in the languages/region app
[02:39] <diverdude> KrisDouglas: which variables would those be?
[02:39] <iceroot> pleasegawd: ctrl + alt + t
[02:39] <KrisDouglas> shift+f2 pleasegawd
[02:39] <pleasegawd> ???
[02:39] <KrisDouglas> then type gnome-terminal
[02:39] <pleasegawd> either?
[02:39] <pleasegawd> lol
[02:40] <KrisDouglas> iceroots is eaie
[02:40] <KrisDouglas> r
[02:40] <iceroot> pleasegawd: just use "ctrl + alt + t" to open the terminal
[02:40] <qwebirc37015> hi i need help whith grub...it dont detect ubuntu but the memtest and windows are good...
[02:40] <kop> anyone care to help a brain dead moron :-/ ? wher to get kernel headres for 2.6.32.52+drm33.21 ?
[02:40]  * kop working too many hrs 
[02:40] <iceroot> kop: from the source you donwloaded the kernel-packae
[02:40] <diverdude> KrisDouglas: ?
[02:41] <KrisDouglas> Your systems language
[02:41] <reisio> qwebirc37015: how've you attempted to have it detect Ubuntu?
[02:41] <iceroot> kop: if it is a repo you included have a look with "apt-cache search"
[02:41] <KrisDouglas> diverdude:
[02:41] <qwebirc37015> wello i try whith boot repair...
[02:42] <kop> iceroot, custom kernel and tnx , checking /usr/src/imamoron :-)
[02:42] <diverdude> KrisDouglas: i think this is the same problem right? http://bin.cakephp.org/view/839252794
[02:42] <qwebirc37015> and rescatux and super grub disk...
[02:42] <koshie> iceroot, I've found that : https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/thunderbird-message-filter-imp/
[02:43] <qwebirc37015> boot repair give me a pastebin report do you need it??
[02:44] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, give the pastebin link.
[02:44] <KrisDouglas> diverdude: wow thats some interesting mess.
[02:44] <KrisDouglas> diverdude: whats your default language?
[02:44] <diverdude> KrisDouglas: yes....but what is wrong?
[02:44] <diverdude> KrisDouglas: i think english
[02:45] <KrisDouglas> hmm
[02:45] <qwebirc37015> there http://paste.ubuntu.com/793394/
[02:45] <KrisDouglas> I have n idea why it's not getting that information, diverdude
[02:45] <qwebirc37015> line 784
[02:45] <diverdude> KrisDouglas: its really odd
[02:45] <qwebirc37015> dont detect ubuntu...
[02:46] <dagnachewa> plz anyone linux container lxc help *** so far I have a bootstrap --> /data/mini_x86_64 and can you plz correct my first container config called apache.container.config locate in /etc/lxc http://pastie.org/3157951
[02:46] <kop> iceroot,  /usr/src/linux/linux-source-2.6.32 >>??
[02:46] <KrisDouglas> seems like you're missing some dependencies of the language. But the string for the selected language is odd. Seems to be "C"
[02:46] <diverdude> KrisDouglas: (C)hinese? :D
[02:47] <crazytimmy96> hi
[02:47] <KrisDouglas> i should hope not
[02:47] <Guest61751> hello
[02:47] <crazytimmy96> i need help
[02:48] <jpedroza2k> Can someone point me in the right direction for basic small-business accounting and invoicing in Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:48] <KrisDouglas> but seriously that should be cn if its Chinese
[02:48] <crazytimmy96> I am kinda new to ubuntu and i was wondering how i can program in java
[02:48] <KrisDouglas> jpedroza2k: gnucash
[02:48] <crazytimmy96> through terminal
[02:48] <KrisDouglas> crazytimmy96: i was about to say eclipse
[02:48] <crazytimmy96> i tried javac and it tells me to "sudo apt-get install javajdk-7-jdk
[02:48] <crazytimmy96> and i did
[02:49] <crazytimmy96> Kris, i did try eclipse
[02:49] <fman23> crazytimmy96: do you already know how to program in java?
[02:49] <crazytimmy96> but once i download it, it wont extract
[02:49] <hajhouse> has anyone experienced problems with the lucid php update (5.3.2-1ubuntu4.11) compared to the original version (5.3.2-1ubuntu4)?
[02:49] <crazytimmy96> and yes i know how to program in java
[02:49] <crazytimmy96> im in APCS at my highschool
[02:49] <fman23> crazytimmy96: y do u want to work from the terminal?
[02:49] <jpedroza2k> KrisDouglas, I have used GnuCash for personal finance, how does it stand up for small business?
[02:49] <reisio> jpedroza2k: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_accounting_software
[02:49] <crazytimmy96> fman23: i heard that terminal is good
[02:49] <crazytimmy96> i program c++ in it
[02:49] <pleasegawd> ok you guys rawk im on the right path here now. so on to my most serious of questions. Can i transfer WOW all my settings and addon and settings from windows as it is on my HD now and move it all over to Ubuntu. Other than that im ready to swiftly kick all microsoft products from my computer perminently
[02:50] <crazytimmy96> and i dont want to download so many programs to do some stuff
[02:50] <reisio> pleasegawd: you can yes
[02:50] <crazytimmy96> i also tried netbeans if you were wondering
[02:50] <pleasegawd> SWEET!
[02:50] <fman23> crazytimmy96: well u do it the same way, but i am with using eclipse or geany.  u can install either from the software center
[02:50] <pleasegawd> pena and pad ready to take notes
[02:50] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u do you get the paste bin link?
[02:50] <fman23> crazytimmy96: just save it as a .java file and use ant to build it
[02:50] <jpedroza2k> reisio, Thanks, I will check those out.
[02:51] <KrisDouglas> jpedroza2k: It has it's shortcomings but it does work. Just have to learn it.
[02:51] <reisio> pleasegawd: just move them to wherever they should be
[02:51] <crazytimmy96> if i type in javac ....... then the error shows up saying i need to download java jdk
[02:51] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, yeah so ubuntu is not booting, whats going on?
[02:51] <reisio> pleasegawd: typically a Wine filesystem will start in ~/.wine/
[02:51] <pleasegawd> move them? in windows or move them in ubuntu or neither???
[02:51] <KrisDouglas> It's not quite up there with Sage or Zero, jpedroza2k
[02:51] <reisio> pleasegawd: you can put stuff almost anywhere with ln -s real/location fake/location, though
[02:51] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u i dont know i try alot of thing but nothing seems to work...
[02:51] <crazytimmy96> and i dont know whats wrong
[02:51] <reisio> pleasegawd: copy from Windows to Ubuntu
[02:51] <fman23> crazytimmy96: well install it, do u want openjdk (fully open source but missing some, but very few things) or oracle's jdk (not fully open source)?
[02:51] <pksadiq> !info openjdk-6-jdk | crazytimmy96
[02:52] <crazytimmy96> i already have oricle's jdk
[02:52] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, can you be specific, you get grub menu?
[02:52] <kop> KrisDouglas, isn't cn Canadian ?
[02:52] <KrisDouglas> kop: oh it may be. I am working from memory
[02:52]  * kop hides 
[02:52] <fman23> crazytimmy96: are you sure you have it? because i thuoght it came with javac
[02:52] <pleasegawd>  so go to my windows side and then just copy and paste the whole folder to a Ubuntu directory of some sort, i am yet to return to the windows side since installation yesterday
[02:52] <crazytimmy96> i have open jdk through "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk"
[02:53] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u well i'll try to be specific but my english is not too good, i have the grub menu but only shows win7 and the mem tests...
[02:53] <crazytimmy96> but when i try to do javac ..... an error tells me to download openjdk-7-jdk
[02:53] <fman23> crazytimmy96: yes that is correct, that should install javac and all of that other stuff
[02:53] <crazytimmy96> but it doesnt work
[02:53] <crazytimmy96> thats what i am trying to say
[02:53] <fman23> crazytimmy96: does it give any errors when installing?
[02:53] <crazytimmy96> no
[02:53] <crazytimmy96> it says that it installs
[02:53] <crazytimmy96> but when i try javac ... it throws errors
[02:54] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, no problem, has ubuntu ever shown, or is this a fresh install?
[02:54] <bitjix> sup all. would anyone happen to know what versions of Perl and Python come ported on Ubuntu 11.10? or what is planned for the next LTS release? any help greatly appreciated
[02:54] <KrisDouglas> That is odd, it works on my office PC. What do you have selected when you run "update-alternatives --config java"
[02:54] <L-----D> I though there is a ubuntu developer channel?
[02:54] <fman23> crazytimmy96: very odd, try opening a new terminal window
[02:54] <crazytimmy96> ive done it on many different terminal windows
[02:54] <fman23> crazytimmy96: or do what KrisDouglas said
[02:54] <crazytimmy96> and nothing changes
[02:54] <KrisDouglas> i am recalling that command from memory so pls don't quote me on it
[02:55] <pksadiq> !find /bin/javac | crazytimmy96 try any of these
[02:55] <reisio> bitjix: 5.12.4, 2.7.2
[02:55] <skel> crazytimmy96: is the error due to the java program you're trying to compile ?
[02:55] <matthewg42> what is the best simple video editing software in linux?
[02:55] <crazytimmy96> skel: no
[02:55] <reCAPTCHA> Hi.. I seem to be having some odd issues with 11.10. For some reason all of the icons on my desktop have changed to what look like blank dog-eared pages.
[02:55] <bitjix> reisio: thanx. is that for 11.10 and the next LTS?
[02:55] <KrisDouglas> skel: doesn't sound like its getting that far
[02:55] <matthewg42> by best I mean user friendly
[02:55] <reisio> matthewg42: how simple
[02:55] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u well i install the 10.04 and upgrade to the 11.10, and work really good till i update and delet some usless packages...
[02:55] <crazytimmy96> i have tried other openjdk and nothing changes
[02:55] <reisio> bitjix: next should have a higher perl
[02:55] <pleasegawd> ok so now i have succesfully opened the .rar file now what do i do to extract it and run this new program?
[02:55] <matthewg42> reisio: has to be able to composite stills, video and overlay audio
[02:56] <reisio> like 5.14.2 at least
[02:56] <reisio> matthewg42: ah
[02:56] <fman23> matthewg42: i think openshot has those abilities
[02:56] <reisio> matthewg42: kdenlive, pitivi, kino, lives
[02:56] <Oer> matthewg42, all video-edit software has a user friendly manual
[02:56] <bitjix> reisio: thats wassup. thanks again bro
[02:56] <reCAPTCHA> ... and the theme seems to look messed up.
[02:56] <fman23> matthewg42: kdenlive is the easiest out of those that reisio said
[02:56] <matthewg42> reisio: I tried these years ago, none were very stable,  which is the most stable.  which would you give to your non-geek friend to use?
[02:57] <reisio> matthewg42: non-geeks edit video?
[02:57] <qwebirc37015> reCAPTCHA did you try whith the tweak?? or the compiz effects?
[02:57] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, first you have this ( /boot/grub/core.img) in the dell utility sda1 that should not be there. So windows boots?
[02:57] <reisio> probably kdenlive, but I haven't looked at any of them in ages
[02:57] <KrisDouglas> openshot is spot on for video editing, best compared to camtasia studio
[02:58] <crazytimmy96> any help???
[02:58] <KrisDouglas> its a bit slow with some stuff but the progress is immense compared to some of the other alts
[02:58] <matthewg42> reisio: ok, thanks.  That's what I was going to try, but I wanted a second opinion since my experience with these tools is minimal and out of date.  thanks buddy, much appreciated.
[02:58] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u yes it boots fine but only windows... im in windows now...
[02:58]  * Oer thinks "years ago" .. so look at it again instead of complaining about a bug that maybe solved.
[02:58] <reCAPTCHA> qwibirc37015, I just upgraded from 10.04... did nothing else to it.
[02:58] <almoxarife> https://launchpad.net/y-ppa-manager  <-- i am wondering is this is a better option for ppa husbandry than cli(terminal)?? any thoughts?
[02:58] <fman23> crazytimmy96: im sry, but i have only compiled one program in java (one that i didnt make) and all i had to do was install openjdk-7-jdk
[02:58] <skel> crazytimmy96: sorry, coming in late to this. did you already paste the error on pastebin or something?
[02:59] <wingless_> If I have to compile a program from source and install it myself, is there a way to tell apt about it so I can manage it later on with apt?
[02:59] <fman23> crazytimmy96: so i cant really help you, try "locate javac" first however
[02:59] <crazytimmy96> fman23: do i do "sudo locate javac"?
[02:59] <pleasegawd> To install just move or copy the ".Conky" hidden folder to you user folder. ...Quik question??? where is my user folder?
[02:59] <fman23> crazytimmy96: no need for sudo
[02:59] <almoxarife> wingless_: use 'checkinstall' and the answer is yes
[02:59] <zivester> does anyone know a command to gracefully shutdown google-chrome from the command line, so all windows will be re-opened (on their respective desktops) on next launch?
[02:59] <qwebirc37015> reCAPTCHA do you still have unity as desktop?
[02:59] <crazytimmy96> ok
[02:59] <KrisDouglas> wingless_: as far as I know checkinstall is the best bet you have
[02:59] <fman23> crazytimmy96: just locate javac and post errors/success here
[02:59] <reCAPTCHA> qwebirc37015, yes.
[03:00] <reCAPTCHA> It looks like this: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/24155
[03:00] <reisio> zivester: non-graceful should manage that, too, no?
[03:00] <crazytimmy96> check javac
[03:00] <crazytimmy96> No command 'check' found, did you mean:
[03:00] <crazytimmy96>  Command 'vcheck' from package 'vcheck' (universe)
[03:00] <crazytimmy96>  Command 'mcheck' from package 'mtools' (main)
[03:00] <crazytimmy96>  Command 'icheck' from package 'qtmobility-dev' (universe)
[03:00] <FloodBot1> crazytimmy96: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:00] <crazytimmy96>  Command 'icheck' from package 'icheck' (universe)
[03:00] <pksadiq> crazytimmy96: you might have to do sudo updatedb
[03:00] <qwebirc37015> well i dont know if unity have it but in gnome3 it have a gnome tweak to manage the themes...
[03:00] <fman23> crazytimmy96: no "locate javac"
[03:01] <zivester> reisio so just kill it?
[03:01] <reisio> zivester: why not
[03:01] <fman23> pksadiq: out of curiosity, what does that do?
[03:01] <pksadiq> fman23: it updates the locate database
[03:01] <crazytimmy96> it found it
[03:01] <crazytimmy96> in a wierd place
[03:01] <crazytimmy96> in a tar file that is in the java folder that i use
[03:01] <fman23> crazytimmy96: what distribution are you using?
[03:02] <zivester> i dont know which one to kill... i have like 4 windows with 30+ tabs
[03:02] <wingless_> almoxarife, KrisDouglas: thanks. I didn't know about checkinstall.  That's exactly what I was looking for.
[03:02] <reisio> sort of defeats the purpose, though
[03:02] <reisio> I'd use find or apt-file
[03:02] <Glacia> back
[03:02] <fman23> zivester: use xkill from terminal (or alt-f2 dialog) and click on the window u want to kill
[03:03] <reisio> killall google-chrome (or whatever the executable name is) should work
[03:03] <Thom_> Hi requesting help with installing Tor with ubuntu...   followed this page directions and Tor is not functioning https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en#ubuntu
[03:03] <fman23> reisio: but that will "kill all"
[03:04] <fman23> reisio: i tihnk he just wants one killed
[03:04] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, qwebirc37015, I don't know if that grub file in the dell utility is the complete culprit. To be honest you could probably remove that partition without a problem probably is the key word here. I would chroot in to the ubuntu and reload grub to start with and see if that gets you in.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot  from this chroot you can purge the grub completely and reinstall it, you may have several problems here t
[03:04] <reisio> how many browsers are open :p
[03:04] <urlin2u> he sda1 grub and or a messed up grub set up as well.
[03:04] <skel> anyone know what the little semi-transparent bar is called that pops up in gnome-shell 3.x ?
[03:04] <reCAPTCHA> qwebirc37015, I could just reinstall, but it seems like a stupid issue to reinstall about.
[03:04] <Thom_> a@t-desktop:~$ gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv 886DDD89
[03:04] <Thom_> gpg: requesting key 886DDD89 from hkp server keys.gnupg.net
[03:04] <Thom_> gpg: key 886DDD89: "deb.torproject.org archive signing key" not changed
[03:04] <Thom_> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[03:04] <Thom_> gpg:              unchanged: 1
[03:04] <Thom_> a@t-desktop:~$ gpg --export A3C4F0F979CAA22CDBA8F512EE8CBC9E886DDD89 | sudo apt-key add -
[03:04] <Thom_> [sudo] password for a:
[03:04] <FloodBot1> Thom_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:04] <Thom_> Sorry, try again.
[03:05] <KrisDouglas> did ol; floody just mute Thom_
[03:05] <SVNDR> yeep lol
[03:05] <ech0> hello
[03:05] <SVNDR> put him in the naughty boys corner
[03:05] <almoxarife> Thom_: why using tor? if you are wanting to browse more that anything i would suggest the 'tor-webbrowsing' packagae from tor
[03:05] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u ok ill give it a try and see what happen...
[03:06] <KrisDouglas> Cya guys
[03:07] <qwebirc37015> reCAPTCHA personaly i dont like unity because i feel it for tablets or so.. so ill keep whith gnome.. you coul try to login in clasic mode...
[03:07] <reCAPTCHA> I don't like unity either...
[03:08] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, you might also see from the live cd if you can mount the sda1 partition and remove that grub stuff, I have never seen this not sure if that partition sda1 is accessible.
[03:08] <leontopod> I ran updates for the first time
[03:08] <leontopod> and it is stuck at 52% "running dpkg"
[03:08] <leontopod> it's been stuck like that for about two hours
[03:08] <leontopod> am I doing something wrong?
[03:08] <zlszk> This is a generated file.  Please modify 'configure.in'    what shuould i do？
[03:09] <almoxarife> leontopod: its crashed
[03:09] <reCAPTCHA> nautilus -q seems to fix it, qibirc37015... you really should get an easier name to type... :-)
[03:09] <leontopod> oh =(
[03:09] <leontopod> is that bad?
[03:09] <leontopod> do I have to reboot?
[03:09] <leontopod> I can't seem to close the window
[03:09] <almoxarife> leontopod: yea, reboot
[03:10] <KrisDouglas> reCAPTCHA: tab is your friend
[03:10] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u question... if i reinstall ubuntu over the durrent partition will it fix the grub?
[03:10] <reCAPTCHA> KrisDouglas... I learned something new today about irc, thanks!
[03:10] <zivester> I think i figured it out... kill the longest running google/chrome application
[03:10] <zivester> that seemed to have worked
[03:10] <titanes> yo dawg, I herd u need a LiveUSB to install a LiveUSB into a LiveUSB so I got an extra usb flash.
[03:10] <mae-ubu1004> Hi
[03:10] <zivester> probably in an SL state
[03:11] <mae-ubu1004> I have a question
[03:11] <reisio> mae-ubu1004: prove it
[03:11] <mae-ubu1004> It's simple
[03:11] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, well it might but the grub file in the sda1 is a very strange, that may be the problem.
[03:11] <reisio> mae-ubu1004: prove it
[03:12] <mae-ubu1004> I just want to know if there's an item for the xfce task bar that could show the cpu's temperature
[03:12] <titanes> dawgs
[03:12] <pleasegawd> ok im having some more porblems extracting something to my 'user folder' something about hiddenfiles and such...anyone ready to hear my cries again lol...
[03:12] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, I would chroot in and purge and reinstall grub before I reinstalled if it was me. I can give you the commands for the purge or get you to a ubuntu forums link on this.
[03:13] <Glacia> titanes, nope no dogs here, just us humans and a few script bot... last i check they are not dogs either
[03:13] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u i really apreciate that...
[03:14] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u and what would be the risks in this operation if i can ask??
[03:14] <reisio> mae-ubu1004: xfce4-sensors-plugin
[03:14] <reisio> mae-ubu1004: in universe
[03:14] <pleasegawd> hello again...can i get someones attention for a second?
[03:14] <titanes> Glacia: tryna be smart??
[03:14] <reisio> pleasegawd: one
[03:14] <relurk> k
[03:14] <skel> pleasegawd: usually it helps to actually ask your question =]
[03:14] <fman23> dang, reisio beat me to it
[03:14] <fman23> reisio: lol i was about to post the same thing
[03:15] <Glacia> titanes, sadly i don't have to try.
[03:15] <mae-ubu1004> thanks resio
[03:15] <pleasegawd> i know but i did that a few times and i feel like you guys are busy and i dont want to intewrupt just wait my turn, but if thats not the etiquet sorry
[03:15] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, purging and reinstalling is done within the ubuntu by chrooting, it will reload grub there and the mbr so it will boot, if done correcty.
[03:15] <reisio> fman23: :p
[03:15] <mae-ubu1004> Hey, where should i get the xfce4-sensors-plugin from?
[03:15] <titanes> I need to pick a filesystem for USB flash install
[03:15] <reisio> mae-ubu1004: the universe repo
[03:15] <pleasegawd> ok so i am trying to open a .rar file
[03:15] <skel> pleasegawd: sorry, I must have missed it. whats up?
[03:15] <reisio> pleasegawd: try harder
[03:15] <Skeme> reisio: haha
[03:15] <fman23> pleasegawd: try double clicking it in the file manager
[03:16] <titanes> which one be the most zomg-optimized for USB flash??
[03:16] <pleasegawd> ok sorry i will dont wanna be a pest but if thats the style its on!
[03:16] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, here is the link find the chroot purge and reinstall of grub 2.
[03:16] <pleasegawd> ok so im trying to unpack Conky Cronograph Station i have succesfully unarchieved it
[03:16] <urlin2u>  qwebirc37015 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[03:16] <sacarlson> pleasegawd: I may have missed parts of what you ask,  are you using the gui nautilus to uncompress your files?
[03:16] <pleasegawd> wheni try to extract  the only thing i see on the desktop is the readme file
[03:16] <reisio> pleasegawd: gj
[03:16] <jaimef> how does one use  "-y git -o Aptitude::CmdLine::Ignore-Trust-Violations=true" with aptitude safe-upgrade?
[03:17] <Skeme> did it make a folder? look at the desktop folder in nautilus
[03:17] <jaimef> upgrade supported this, however self-upgrade does not
[03:17] <_0x783czar> Is there an IRC channel where I can go for Debian help?
[03:17] <dajhorn> titanes: Almost always FAT.   Most USB flash media controllers are designed to be fast for the FAT table.
[03:17] <Skeme> and press ctrl-h to show hidden files.. maybe it made a folder starting with .
[03:17] <reisio> pleasegawd: where's the rar?
[03:17] <skel> pleasegawd: where are you extracting it?
[03:17] <overclucker> pleasegawd: ls -a ~/Desktop
[03:17] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: that is because you have chosen that file to extract?
[03:17] <titanes> dajhorn: son ...
[03:17] <pleasegawd> yes it is on the desktop but all the files are not there, the readme says something about hiddenfiles and extracting to the 'user folder'?
[03:18] <skel> pleasegawd: "user folder" would typically mean your home folder
[03:18] <skel> pleasegawd: have you checked there?
[03:18] <leontopod> wow I had to remove the battery to turn the computer off
[03:18] <overclucker> pleasegawd: my bet is that you've got a .conkyrc on your desktop
[03:18] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: you are chosing to unpack one file, when you should be unpacking the folder
[03:18] <pleasegawd> ok figured that
[03:18] <leontopod> I guess my kubuntu install is in an undefined state now
[03:18] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u did i have a separate /boot partition? i dont know...
[03:18] <pleasegawd> its on the desktop it was created at the end of extraction process...
[03:18] <leontopod> since dpkg crashed while running
[03:18] <plato101a> acer webcam sometimes recognized and mapped correctly on the computer and sometimes not....how do i change the mapping of the webcam
[03:18] <pleasegawd> i wll copy pasta what the readme says to do...
[03:18] <pleasegawd> To install just move or copy the ".Conky" hidden folder to you user folder.
[03:19] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: dont
[03:19] <pleasegawd> ok
[03:19] <pleasegawd> dont what?
[03:19] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: paste it
[03:19] <pleasegawd> clearly too late
[03:19] <skel> pleasegawd: if you open up a terminal and type ls -la ~    do you see .Conky ?
[03:19] <titanes> dajhorn: this is a full install onto a flash USB drive.
[03:20] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, no you have a mbr boot no boot partition, the sda1 is the dell utility partition some how part of the grub got in there, really  have no idea other then it should not be there of its effect on being there.
[03:20] <fman23> pleasegawd: cp -R ~/Desktop/.Conky ~/
[03:20] <basil601> hi
[03:20] <fman23>  ithink
[03:20] <whomp> sometimes when i boot my comp into ubuntu, it makes a loud screeching noise. why would this be?
[03:20] <michaelgamble> during an ls command how do i see the owners on everything
[03:20] <almoxarife> whomp: cause its dying?
[03:20] <urlin2u> whomp, hardware?
[03:20] <fman23> michaelgamble: ls -lA
[03:20] <Skeme> your computer it hates ubuntu.. and turns into a demon to fight it off?
[03:21] <whomp> maybe, but it doesn't make the noise when i run windows
[03:21] <Skeme> does the news come from the pc speaker?
[03:21] <almoxarife> whomp: that case it just hates you
[03:21] <fman23> whomp: can you play sound just fine after it boots up?
[03:21] <Skeme> noise i mean
 i do not see .conky but i do see the program name in full
[03:21] <fman23> pleasegawd: cp -R ~/Desktop/.Conky ~/
[03:21] <pleasegawd> Conky Cronograph Station
[03:21] <michaelgamble> and how do you change the owner of everything in a folder recursively
[03:22] <fman23> michaelgamble: chown -R (owner):(group)
[03:22] <basil601> any chance of advice on an error in Apache 2.2.17 when trying to install Moodle?
[03:22] <Skeme> sometimes motherboards have crappy pc speakers on them.. and i have heard them make some pretty strange noises before.. maybe remove the pc speaker and see if thats teh prob
[03:22] <whomp> fman23 i can play sound, but it is much quieter than the loud noise over it
[03:22] <pleasegawd> fman that did not work for me
[03:22] <titanes> would be nice if usb drives had a LCD screen instead of useless flashing led. Like Art Levedev's Optimus keyboard.
[03:22] <fman23> pleasegawd: what was the error?
[03:22] <plato101a> my acer webcam is possessed...sometimes it comes on...sometimes the computer cant find it
[03:22] <michaelgamble> said it was missing an operator
[03:22] <michaelgamble> after user name
[03:22] <pleasegawd> cp: cannot stat `/home/lovenest1/Desktop/.Conky': No such file or directory lovenest1@ubuntu:~$
[03:23] <fman23> pleasegawd: did u extract it?
[03:23] <Ben64> michaelgamble: you need to specify what you want to perform the action on
[03:23] <pleasegawd> yes to desktop
[03:23] <pleasegawd> ok
[03:23] <Skeme> your username is lovenest1 o.O
[03:23] <pleasegawd> jah
[03:23] <fman23> pleasegawd: everything? because there is a folder called .Conky that is hidden although i believe archive manager shows it
[03:24] <titanes> anyone know best filesystem to run ubuntu from a USB  flash drive?
[03:24] <mae-ubu1004> -
[03:24] <pleasegawd> no in desktop i only see the readme file in the folder, in the rar folder they are all there
[03:24] <Ben64> titanes: it'd be very slow
[03:24] <fman23> titanes: are you using it as a livecd or installing to the usb drive?
[03:24] <titanes> fman23: yes.
[03:24] <fman23> titanes: which one?
[03:24] <titanes> Ben64: that's alright, it's USB 2.0
[03:25] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u  just to be sure... sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/temp... and ill stop in apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common... then i reboot right?
[03:25] <titanes> fman23: latest one 11.10
[03:25] <Ben64> titanes: the bus speed doesn't matter, the flash memory itself is too slow to run ubuntu at a normal speed
[03:25] <pleasegawd> ok so am i typing out what you said wrong i am just copyin then pasting it right?
[03:26] <titanes> Ben64: so how come LivuUSB (which I am using ATM) is alright?? I don't see noticeable slowdown.
[03:26] <Ben64> titanes: i'm not sure what you mean by LivuUSB
[03:26] <titanes> I just need to know the proper filesystem to use .
[03:26] <skel> pleasegawd: it doesn't sound like its really extracting to the folder on your desktop, not fully anyway
[03:26] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, that is really confusing as to what your intending. sda5 is the ubunru install, sda1 is the dell utility and has grub when it should not.
[03:26] <aBound> Ben64, LiveUSB
[03:26] <aBound> :P
[03:26] <pleasegawd> fman23 the file on  the desktop is called Conky Cronograph Station
[03:27] <fman23> pleasegawd: post here "ls -lA ~/Desktop"
[03:27] <pleasegawd> k
[03:27] <Ben64> pleasegawd: pastebin that please
[03:27] <skel> pleasegawd: dont post the output here
[03:27] <skel> pleasegawd: what Ben64 said
[03:27] <fman23> oops thats what i meant
[03:27] <fman23> ssry
[03:27] <aBound> www.pastebin.com
[03:27] <pleasegawd> where do i paste it?
[03:28] <titanes> wtf?? didn't let me pick a fs!! it went right ahead with ext4
[03:28] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, this command is correct but to be run in Ubuntu sda5  apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common
[03:28] <almoxarife> fman23: he cant see the 'hidden folder' if it extracts as a .xxxxx folder, or he has not extracted the folder but continues to extract single files
[03:28] <Ben64> fman23: np, its best to specify though :)
[03:28] <fman23> pleasegawd: put it at http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:28] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, then the command run again with install replacing purge, the mbr is sda.
[03:28] <zenome> guys, I have a quick question. Does LD_LIBRARY_PATH affect the linker path when compiling with gcc (takes precedence over -L/path?)
[03:29] <pleasegawd> i pasted the whole file not a single file...its not my first rodeo here, just new to ubuntu style
[03:29] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: you pasted the .rar file?
[03:29] <pleasegawd> whole folder rather
[03:30] <fman23> i should be doing homework
[03:30] <fman23> but this is more fun and is community service
[03:30] <pleasegawd> ok whats with this pastebin thing. completely new to me
[03:30] <fman23> pleasegawd: just paste the output of that command to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:30] <pleasegawd> and yer link is not connecting?
[03:30] <aBound> pleasegawd, Pastebin is for pasting text.
[03:30] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u sorry i got lost... so i have to: a) keep the grub in sda1 and purg the one in sda5 or b) purg the sda1 and purg and reinstall in sda5...
[03:31] <titanes> which one is the principal qemu+kvm package in ubuntu??
[03:31] <titanes> apt-cache returns a couple thousands
[03:31] <pleasegawd> sorry i think my connection dropped for some reason
[03:32] <Resistance> pleasegawd:  i dont think it did...
[03:32] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: since its not your first rodeo lets hit the finer points, you got a rar, within it is a folder, the folder may extract as a 'hidden folder' .xxxxx type, you wont see it on desktop, you will seee it with nautilus if you enter the 'desktop' folder and have the 'let me see hidden folders and files option clicked, there you go 'sport'
[03:32] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, hold on your not understanding a few things here sda1 is the dell utility that came with the computer, not sure if it can even be purged do yiou mean deleted?
[03:32] <fman23> titanes: have you tried qemu-kvm?
[03:32] <pleasegawd> ok i did yer pastebin thing i hope
[03:32] <fman23> titanes: just guessing
[03:32] <fman23> pleasegawd: well paste the link to it here
[03:32] <pleasegawd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/798942/
[03:33] <titanes> LiveUSB/CD should come with kvm pre-install in order to test the installation
[03:33] <basil601> can anyone offer advice on this error showing up in my browser when trying to install a web based programme? Error: database driver problem detected
[03:33] <fman23> oh ok, ty
[03:33] <pleasegawd> is that right?
[03:33] <pleasegawd> so posting all my info on here was prob not good ya?
[03:34] <fman23> pleasegawd: cp -R "~/Desktop/Conky Cronograph Station/.Conky" ~/
[03:34] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: btw sport , start with the nick you are talking to, like at the rodeo
[03:34] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u damit! i'm totally lost... sorry again... so what i have to do? purg the grub in sda1 or the one in sda5... being purg ->delete...
[03:34] <pleasegawd> nope
[03:34] <fman23> pleasegawd: what did it say now?
[03:34] <titanes> quick, I need a qemu command to test the installation.
[03:34] <pleasegawd> no such file or directory
[03:35] <pleasegawd> Conky Cronograph Station is the folder name
[03:35] <pleasegawd> on the desktop
[03:35] <fman23> pleasegawd: ls -lA "~/Desktop/Conky Cronograph Station"
[03:35] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, so the use of the term purge has one use here and is only associated with the ubuntu sda5 partition.
[03:36] <pleasegawd> cannot access
[03:36] <lahwran> I have an ATI Radeon X300SE PCIE (old card) that I just installed because my equally old nvidia card blew. how can I set up accelerated graphics?
[03:36] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, do you have the windows backed up?
[03:36] <almoxarife> fman23: have him pastebin the contents of his desktop
[03:36] <fman23> almoxarife: lol already did, and it said that folder was on his desktop
[03:37] <pleasegawd> i am def looking at it
[03:37] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u nope i dont have another hd or dvd to do it...
[03:37] <pleasegawd> i dragged and ropped it from my DL folder tho does that matter?
[03:37] <fman23> lahwran: install fglrx-updates from software center
[03:37] <fman23> pleasegawd: shoudlnt
[03:37] <pleasegawd> ok
[03:38] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: if you are looking at the folder than the issue is resolved, its unpacked, what you get is what is was packed
[03:38] <martian> Is there a way I could mount an ssh 'share' using a third system in the middle as tunnel when I only port 22 is open on the middle system?
[03:38] <fman23> almoxarife: he needs to move a hidden folder
[03:38] <fman23> pleasegawd: go to the folder in the file manager
[03:38] <fman23> pleasegawd: where the readme is
[03:38] <titanes> why not make  USB flash with SATA interface in order to get around USB limitation?
[03:38] <fman23> pleasegawd: then press view then check hidden
[03:39] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, to be honest this is a possibly a situation that I feel uncomfortable helping in. I think your having trouble understanding whats going on, this can lead to loosing it all, with no back up.
[03:39] <fman23> titanes: that is called a solid state hard drive
[03:39] <almoxarife> fman23: its in his home , where it lies is just house keeping
[03:39] <lahwran> fman23: I also moved my xorg.conf to a backup. is that the correct action? nvidia's driver uses it, but I haven't heard anything about ATI's needing it
[03:39] <pleasegawd> derp u found it woo
[03:39] <fman23> lahwran: ati's do use it but if memory serves, it should regenerate with the correct ati stuff which are different from teh nvidia
[03:40] <fman23> lahwran: move the xorg.conf then install the drivers
[03:40] <lahwran> alright
[03:40] <pleasegawd> thats it huh?
[03:40] <pleasegawd> grrrrr thankyou so much
[03:40] <lahwran> fman23: E: Unable to locate package fglrx-updates
[03:41] <pleasegawd> thankyou, can someone please point me in the direction of some easy steps to switching from mac osx 10.4 to ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[03:41] <fman23> pleasegawd: yeah move the .Conky file you will see to ur user folder (ur home folder)
[03:41] <titanes> a qemu command to test ubuntu install??
[03:41] <fman23> lahwran: do u have multiverse repo enabled?
[03:41] <fman23> titanes: why are you using qemu?
[03:41] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: sure, the main ubuntu website, ooodles of nifty info
[03:41] <pleasegawd> fman i cant just use it from the desktop?
[03:41] <lahwran> fman23: yes, but I'm on maverick
[03:42] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u mmm well thats sad... i tink i can have my ubuntu partition back but seems hopeless.. .
[03:42] <Aliv3_> hi SVNDR
[03:42] <zappf> FloodBot1, can you close a connection of a user ? I can't close my previous connections...
[03:42] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: yes, you can
[03:42] <titanes> fman23: i need to test the install
[03:42] <Aliv3_> so anyone know about hp touchpad ubuntu
[03:42] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u do you have any site that can help me?
[03:42] <fman23> lahwran: well then just actually isntead, go to additional drivers in the menus and install the ati driver
[03:42] <fman23> titanes: which install? is it on usb drive?
[03:42] <titanes> yes
[03:42] <lahwran> titanes: qemu is an emulator; that means it completely reimplements the processor. I suggest looking at a virtualization tool, which works by sharing the processor - virtualbox is an example of this.
[03:42] <satyanash> How compatible is Ubuntu with the new Acer Aspire S5 ?
[03:42] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, post your pastebin at the ubuntu forums that s a great place.
[03:42] <pleasegawd> k can i get my question answered about installing ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[03:43] <almoxarife> pleasegawd: sure, the main ubuntu website, ooodles of nifty info
[03:43] <pleasegawd> thx.... :)
[03:43] <titanes> lahwran: great, which command should I use?
[03:43] <almoxarife> bbbbye
[03:43] <fman23> pleasegawd: i tihnk it requires a few things to get ubuntu working with efi and because apple uses efi unlike the rest of the world, it will add some boot time to ubuntu
[03:44] <Dragaan> any obvious reasons why my (wired) internet connection would be insanely slow and choppy in ubuntu 11.04 but fine in windows?  speedtest shows 25mb/s down and 4 mb/s up in windows and 4 mb/s down and times out starting the upload test in linux
[03:44] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, here is a earlier version of supergrub as well it works with grub2. http://super-grub-disk.en.malavida.com/download
[03:44] <fman23> pleasegawd: just because it has to try to find other boot mediums
[03:44] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u i try to put it in one in spanish (my mother lenguage) but i think they dont care...
[03:44] <lahwran> fman23: it doesn't seem to think any proprietary drivers are available
[03:45] <fman23> lahwran: have u put in the new card yet and rebooted?
[03:45] <satyanash> How compatible is Ubuntu with the new Acer Aspire S5 ?
[03:45] <fman23> lahwran: or do u want to install the drivers b4 reboot?
[03:45] <lahwran> fman23: the nvidia card fried, I had to put the ati in to boot at all
[03:45] <titanes> satyanash: install it, let us know.
[03:45] <SVNDR> Aliv3_: hi
[03:45] <basil601> hi
[03:45] <Aliv3_> hi
[03:45] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u thank you very much but and ill try the super grub disk and try in the forums in english...
[03:46] <satyanash> titanes, Haha.. I havent bought it yet... thought someone here might've.. :D
[03:46] <urlin2u> qwebirc37015, post it in english all the pros in this area speak that. I think it is fixable but under this environment live chat  it is hard. Good luck.
[03:46] <fman23> lahwran: oh wait, that was a stupid question i just asked, what i get for staying up.  what model again?
[03:47] <fman23> satyanash: you can always run a livecd without making any modifications to the computer and see how it runs
[03:47] <titanes> satyanash: go to the store with a LiveUSB or CD, turn off the lappy, go into boot device option and pick CD or Flash drive.
[03:48] <qwebirc37015> urlin2u well thank you ill se if i find solution i really thank you...
[03:48] <titanes> satyanash: then proceed to do an Ubuntu install.
[03:48] <htoofe> hi alll
[03:48] <satyanash> titanes, fman23 Ohh.. yea! Never thought of that! Now I need to find an acer store... :P
[03:49] <squidly> I'm having issues uninstalling cacti on 11.10. I keep getting "no type given for question at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 22, <GEN1> line 2."
[03:49] <basil601> any apache/php gurus available?
[03:49] <squidly> google does not give me anythign (and it's breaking my aptitude
[03:49] <satyanash> fman23, titanes btw it does not have a CD drive.. it is the latest ultrabook revealed in the CES..
[03:50] <titanes> WTFFUUU!!! installer crashed :(((
[03:51] <Skeme> basil601: i can try
[03:51] <basil601> thanks
[03:51] <basil601> tried installing Moodle on Ubuntu 11.04, with LAMP stack
[03:52] <titanes> how is this possible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:52] <basil601> followed directions to install curl and intl extensions
[03:52] <basil601> now the error in my browser is: Error: database driver problem detected
[03:53] <titanes> VERDAMMT!!
[03:53] <Skeme> you look at phpinfo?
[03:53] <fman23> dang wifi
[03:53] <fman23> ok what did i miss?
[03:53] <basil601> look for what Skeme?
[03:53] <titanes> what to do now
[03:53] <n2diy> !kde
[03:54] <fman23> lahwran: what model is ur ati card?
[03:54] <hateb> ubuntu have any problems with writing and reading from NTFS partition ?
[03:54] <lahwran> Radeon X300SE
[03:54] <fman23> lahwran: what year was it made?
[03:54] <almoxarife> hateb: nope
[03:54] <lahwran> I have no idea. I had it lying around and shoved it in because I didn't have any other GPUs available
[03:54] <Skeme> basil601: to see if your db drivers are installed and working?
[03:55] <fman23> lahwran: ok so it isnt really new, ati might have discontinued it and with it, their drivers
[03:55] <lahwran> fman23: oh no, it's very very old
[03:55] <fman23> probably was discontinued
[03:55] <hateb> can I move /home to ntfs partition, without causing problems ?
[03:55] <lahwran> fman23: this card would be in one of the first series-es to support PCIE, and it's a budget card in that series
[03:55] <squidly> hateb: until your system crashed once.. or you access it in windows..
[03:56] <basil601> skeme: I have phpinfo open - intl looks like ti installed oK and is enabled. Where do I look for db drivers?
[03:57] <hateb> that's the deal I wanna access it from both ubuntu and windows
[03:57] <Skeme> search for DB or Drivers on that page
[03:57] <fman23> lahwran: one sec, trying to find legacy drivers.  are you sure you do not alrady have acceleration?
[03:58] <lahwran> quite sure. this card is capable of 3D acceleration, I was using it in windows for a while
[03:58] <lahwran> however, the linux drivers probably barely support 2d
[03:58] <fman23> lahwran: lol i just found one for $5 online
[03:58] <lahwran> yeah, that sounds about right
[03:58] <Skeme> basil601: can you connect to mysql on the command line?
[03:59] <joeko> HI i am intrested in setting up an automated ubuntu install but i can't get the preseed.cfg to overwrite the contents of the existing drive
[03:59] <basil601> skeme: not sure. not a huge fan of command line - I'll google connecting to mysql now
[04:00] <fman23> lahwran: who is the manufacturer?
[04:00] <fman23> lahwran: i think i found dirvers
[04:00] <lahwran> I have no idea ...
[04:01] <fman23> does it say: Connect3D, GeCube, Giga-Byte, Hightech (HIS), Plait Microsystems?
[04:03] <joeko> http://pastebin.com/EGhgJzj5
[04:04] <fman23> lahwran: x86 or x86_64? i found the drivers
[04:04] <lahwran> x86
[04:04] <lahwran> out of curiosity what did you use to find them?
[04:05] <michaelgamble> hey quick question
[04:05] <michaelgamble> anyone explain to me what this line means
[04:05] <michaelgamble> ./configure --prefix=/usr
[04:05] <fman23> lahwran: lots of digging on the ati website
[04:05] <lahwran> ah
[04:05] <devians> hey, can i have upstart scripts in a location other than /etc/init ?
[04:05] <basil601> skeme - yeh, appear to be able to connect to mysql via command line
[04:05] <fman23> lahwran: apparently it is in catalyst and everything
[04:05] <fman23> lahwran: which is in the repos?
[04:05] <satyanash> michaelgamble, it's a configure script, with some kind of prefix option given to it.
[04:05] <fman23> lahwran: be sure you have the multiverse enabled and search for fglrx
[04:06] <fman23> lahwran: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English
[04:06] <michaelgamble> if I'm seeing that as part of instructions and the source is extracted in my downloads folder what would i change?
[04:06] <Skeme> basil601: have you installed the php5-mysql package?
[04:07] <fman23> lahwran: lol, still cant believe i found this for $5... and that amd still supports it
[04:07] <michaelgamble> hmm i just noticed a configure script
[04:07] <satyanash> michaelgamble, Basically the script will configure the installation or you. You should pass it whatever abilities you (don't) want in the build.
[04:07] <basil601> that was installed as part of the AMP installation. I have run other databases and connected with php. THe problem seemed to arise after I did the intl extension install
[04:07] <michaelgamble> so does it matter if i run the script from inside my downloads folder?
[04:07] <satyanash> michaelgamble, Yes, that is the script you should run.
[04:08] <satyanash> michaelgamble, You can run it from wherever you like, as long as it finds the files it will be changing in order to configure the installation.
[04:09] <fman23> michaelgamble: the configure script takes the template makefiles provided with the software (Makefile.in for example) and turns them into makefiles that are customized to work on ur system specifications and also check that required software is installed
[04:09] <satyanash> michaelgamble, generally it is to be run from the same folder where your source exists
[04:09] <Skeme> basil601: try this advice: http://moodle.org/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=164020
[04:10] <Skeme> basil601: read the whole thing.. he talks about changing something in your config.php file for the moodle installation
[04:10] <basil601> skeme: will do...
[04:10] <Skeme> basil601: ""Thank you very much!!!  I upgraded to PHP 5.3.3 and error went away.  Problem solved.""
[04:10] <Skeme> maybe try that
[04:11] <basil601> skeme: i'm running 5.3.5
[04:11] <michaelgamble> ok so i ran the configure , then the make, then the sudo make install
[04:11] <Skeme> hmm mok
[04:11] <michaelgamble> and now i have no idea what the outcome was
[04:11] <Skeme> still check that config.php and see if what he mentions is the prob
[04:11] <michaelgamble> I'm assuming it built the installer
[04:12] <michaelgamble> but i have no idea where
[04:12] <Skeme> basil601: basically he suggests changing the dbtype from mysqli to mysql in the config.php
[04:12] <satyanash> michaelgamble, You just compiled the source.
[04:13] <satyanash> michaelgamble, What do the instructions say ?
[04:13] <michaelgamble> https://github.com/hbons/SparkleShare/blob/master/README.md
[04:13] <michaelgamble> i followed the debian / ubuntu instructions
[04:13] <michaelgamble> i got through to the part right before the section titled "Run on Mac"
[04:14] <michaelgamble> would that have installed the app or built an installer? bit confused :p
[04:14] <fman23> lahwran: did the drivers install ok?
[04:14] <lahwran> yep
[04:14] <lahwran> I'll restart in a bit
[04:14] <fman23> lahwran: ok, did u install from repos or from website?
[04:14] <lahwran> repos
[04:14] <satyanash> michaelgamble, It differs from app to app.
[04:15] <michaelgamble> it looks like the app is now installed
[04:15] <satyanash> try running sparkleshare
[04:15] <fman23> lahwran: oh so you did find it, well restart and tell me how it went so i can go to sleep
[04:15] <j4r00tn> exit
[04:15] <michaelgamble> it didn't occur to me to try to run sparkleshare
[04:15] <lahwran> fman23: just go to sleep, I know what I'm doing well
[04:15] <michaelgamble> face palm
[04:15] <satyanash> michaelgamble, If it is installed it should directly run.
[04:15] <michaelgamble> it does i think I'm good
[04:15] <lahwran> fman23: I'm just doing 10 things at once. thank you very much for the help!
[04:15] <satyanash> michaelgamble, Kay.. cool.
[04:16] <basil601> skeme: thanks - found and edited that. The error changed slightly to ; Error: database driver problem detected
[04:16] <basil601> The site administrator should verify server configuration
[04:16] <basil601> Unknown driver native/mysql
[04:16] <fman23> lahwran: ok, lol. btw, never buy ati again, they kill your battery are not very powerful
[04:16] <fman23> lahwran: if of course u r using laptop
[04:16] <basil601> skeme: I might post to the moodle forum ....just assumed it had been operator error in the php extensions
[04:16] <lahwran> fman23: I'll take that into consideration when buying a laptop, but my next card when I get a desktop that can handle it will be the ati 5870
[04:17] <lahwran> okay, bye :P
[04:17] <Skeme> basil601: is this a hosted server somewhere? you may need to ask the techs to compile php and mysqli properly.. it sounds like the mysqli module has some problems
[04:18] <basil601> skeme: I host at home. So all things are possible. Just lack of knowledge and experience that may get in the way
[04:18] <Skeme> basil601: lots of people with the same error related to Moodle i am finding so you should be able to find some help out there.. ive no idea what moodle is :)
[04:19] <basil601> skeme: its aCMS - educational like Blackoard, but open source
[04:19] <codepython777> how can i figure out what is listening at port 443? When I goto https://myserver.com -- i see a login password window. But when i do a netstat -a | grep 443 -- nothing has 443?
[04:21] <Oer> codepython777, i guess ssl used 443
[04:21] <bgsmith> greetings channel, I'm facing a problem with mysql and php on ubuntu, perhaps related to permissions or apparmor
[04:22] <codepython777> Oer: isnt it supposed to show up in netstat -a
[04:22] <bgsmith> A "select * into outfile '/tmp/testfile'" gives a 'already exists' error, however in reality the file does not exist.
[04:22] <basil601> skeme: thanks for taking the time.
[04:22] <Skeme> codepython: try something like "grep -w 443 /etc/services"
[04:22] <Skeme> basil601: no worries, best of luck!
[04:23] <Skeme> codepython: install sockstat and use sockstat -4l to list all services and ports
[04:24] <Skeme> codepython: or something like "lsof -i -n | egrep 'COMMAND|LISTEN'" will list everything running etc
[04:25] <codepython777> Skeme: it does say: https           443/tcp                         # http protocol over TLS/SSL and another line with udp
[04:25] <Skeme> codepythong: yea i thought that would help but it doesnt, it says the same on mine and im not running SSL :)
[04:25] <codepython777> Skeme: lsof -i -n | grep 443 --> null
[04:25] <judgen> Hi
[04:26] <BIGBOOMBA> Hi all.
[04:26] <Skeme> nah dont grep 443 run that command just like i typed it
[04:26] <Skeme> it might be a range
[04:27] <codepython777> Skeme: no 443 anywhere in that output...and i know something is listening
[04:27] <BIGBOOMBA> When I try "dd if=FILE of=/dev/dvd" or "dd if=FILE of=/dev/dvdrw" i get "dd: opening `/dev/dvd': No medium found" (or the equivalent)
[04:27] <Skeme> maybe something on a different machine on the network?
[04:27] <BIGBOOMBA> my /dev directory contains both "dvd" and "dvdrw"
[04:28] <codepython777> Skeme: but i should be at least be able to see what is being served on my machine?
[04:28] <n2diy> !korganizer
[04:28] <Skeme> codepython777: hmm yea.. you goto localhost:443 and see anythign?
[04:28] <enferex> So on boot none of my networkdevices are active, just the loop back.  I have to bring up each device manually (ifconfig ethX).  How do I avoid having to do this?
[04:28] <codepython777> Skeme: http://pbin.be/show/365/
[04:29] <Neek0> BIGBOOMBA: cdroms are /dev/sr0 or /dev/sr1 usually
[04:29] <codepython777> Skeme: unable to connect to localhost
[04:30] <codepython777> Skeme: When it asks a password it says: The server says: AXIS_00... is this a firewall blocking 443?
[04:30] <shawnboy> how do i restore Jaunty to it's default video driver (for ATI)... open source
[04:30] <shawnboy> ?
[04:30] <urlin2u> shawnboy, jaunty is end of life.
[04:31] <shawnboy> i know
[04:31] <BIGBOOMBA> Neek0: thanks; i only have sr0, so i'll try that. any idea what the purpose of the dvd and dvdrw device files are, then? also, do you know off the top of your head what the "sr" in "sr0" stands for? if not i'll google it
[04:31] <shawnboy> it still lives here though
[04:31] <urlin2u> shawnboy, but not supported here.
[04:31] <michaelgamble> hey whats the least amount of ram ubuntu 11.1 should run with
[04:31] <shawnboy> where is it supported?
[04:32] <BIGBOOMBA> "dd: opening `/dev/sr0': No medium found" strange...
[04:32] <Neek0> BIGBOOMBA: no, my drives have always come up in the sr0, so i've never really payed any attention to the dvd and dvdrw in /dev. and no i don't know what it means
[04:32] <xangua> shawnboy: not here but you can get the LTS or latest version from ubuntu.com
[04:32] <Oer> michaelgamble, 1 gb
[04:33] <shawnboy> I have LTS running on this same machine but it won't keep wifi. bug. nobody will fix. so that's why I have to run Jaunty.
[04:33] <urlin2u> shawnboy, nowhere really it is not supported you can upgrade to lucid though.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[04:34] <urlin2u> shawnboy, have you tried any of the releases past lucid?
[04:34] <jademonkey> Hey guys, I have an Ubuntu 11.04 installation with 2 multi-function printer/scanner/copiers attached. I have no problems with either printer but the 'simple scan' software only sees one scanner, unfortunately the less important one. Can anyone provide me with information regarding installing a Brother DCP-7020, the driver provided on Brother's site is broken.
[04:34] <Neek0> BIGBOOMBA: type "df -h" in a terminal and you should be able to see where your cdrom is showing up
[04:34] <michaelgamble> anyway to get ubuntu running with nautilus app at a lower impact of 1gb
[04:35] <crazytimmy96> how can i program java through terminal
[04:35] <shawnboy> urlin2u, xangua I converted to linux parially because I think it's wasteful to do away with useable PCs, but this is where I find myself with Linux on this notebook. urlin2u , no I haven't. maybe I should.
[04:35] <urlin2u> michaelgamble, what is yoiur ram?
[04:35] <michaelgamble> i would like to run at anywhere between 250mb - 500mb
[04:35] <Skeme> crazytimmy98: what for?
[04:35] <crazytimmy96> ive tried to locate it but it just gives me some random files
[04:35] <crazytimmy96> i want to program in java
[04:35] <Oer> michaelgamble, try Lubuntu then
[04:35] <michaelgamble> whats lubuntu
[04:35] <online> hi
[04:35] <michaelgamble> ?
[04:35] <urlin2u> michaelgamble, lubuntu will run there.
[04:35] <Skeme> why you wanna do it in terminal?
[04:35] <crazytimmy96> i use it for c++
[04:35] <BIGBOOMBA> Neek0: hmmm, that doesn't list the DVD-RW that it should
[04:36] <crazytimmy96> and i dont like to download unessessary things like net beans and eclipse
[04:36] <crazytimmy96> unless nessessary
[04:36] <online> hi crazy
[04:36] <Skeme> just use gedit
[04:36] <Skeme> and command line to compile
[04:36] <crazytimmy96> how can i compile it
[04:36] <online> gcj?
[04:36] <Neek0> crazytimmy96: you can use nano or vi
[04:36] <crazytimmy96> it wont let me use javac
[04:36] <online> use netbean
[04:36] <Oer> michaelgamble, Lubuntu https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System_requirements or maybe Xubuntu
[04:36] <urlin2u> michaelgamble, ubuntu with a different desktop. http://lubuntu.net/
[04:37] <crazytimmy96> how can i compile a java file
[04:37] <online> use netbean for java its make jar
[04:37] <michaelgamble> but will support nautilus app?
[04:37] <crazytimmy96> how can i compile java in terminal
[04:37] <online> gcj
[04:37] <Neek0> crazytimmy96: have you installed the java jre?
[04:37] <shawnboy> thanks for at least responding urlin2u and xangua . I guess I'll have to try something past Lucid, but I'm not sure if my hardware will keep up and not sure if the wifi connection for this card will be fixed in later versions if it's not in Lucid.
[04:37] <Skeme> you have to install a compiler and then run javac etc
[04:37] <crazytimmy96> yes
[04:38] <pksadiq> crazytimmy96: still you didn't get it?, try reinstalling openjdk
[04:38] <urlin2u> shawnboy, what is the card?
[04:38] <crazytimmy96> sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk
[04:38] <crazytimmy96> ive done it over 5 times
[04:38] <crazytimmy96> and on different terminals
[04:38] <online> no java bin?
[04:38] <epod> okay I installed gnome3... how do I make unity stop loading?
[04:38] <Skeme> epod: choose gnome-classic from the menu before you login..
[04:38] <Neek0> BIGBOOMBA: looks like you need to see why your drive is not showing up
[04:38] <Skeme> epod: but unity rocks
[04:38] <online> javac hello.java
[04:38] <epod> Skeme, hm I didnt see that, I'll check again
[04:38] <urlin2u> epod, choose gnome a with the cog at login
[04:39] <epod> Skeme, except that I have no xchat tray notification
[04:39] <online> at java bin
[04:39] <zivester> i just upgraded 11.04 with gnome2 to 11.10... im pretty sure that will install unity... how can i replace it with xubuntu?  is it just `sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop` ?
[04:39] <epod> ty, brb
[04:39] <Skeme> epod: click the gear icon next to your username at hte login screen
[04:39] <shawnboy> urlin2u, Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[04:39] <online> try javac -----------its java compiler or gcj
[04:39] <shawnboy> I've tried all the fixes and workarounds. My card is one that is listed as "working" but it connects, disconnects, connects, disconnects.
[04:40] <crazytimmy96> javac throws me an error saying that i need to install openjdk-7-jdk
[04:40] <crazytimmy96> which i have done multiple times
[04:40] <urlin2u> shawnboy, that card is supported, but it sounds like your getting it to work, just not well.
[04:41] <shawnboy> yeah. not reliably at all, urlin2u
[04:41] <online> try on solaris take jdk7
[04:42] <crazytimmy96> ive tried oricle
[04:42] <crazytimmy96> is solaris different
[04:42] <shawnboy> I have several other wifi devices that work fine, so it's not other net components. and this card works rock solid under Jaunty.
[04:42] <shawnboy> Lucid driver is what it comes down too. really bums me out too, because I'd like to upgrade.  urlin2u
[04:43] <Skeme> epod: get it?
[04:43] <crazytimmy96> should i get jdk or jre???
[04:43] <online> i dont have jdk 7
[04:43] <epod> Skeme, yep, gnome3 working well, ty :)
[04:43] <Skeme> epod: now you can get rid of xchat and move to Smuxi :)
[04:43] <Neek0> crazytimmy96: jdk
[04:43] <online> sudo apt-get install jdk7 is error?
[04:44] <crazytimmy96> i have jdk7 from oracle but for some reason, it does not work
[04:44] <jademonkey> any experts out there with scanners on ubuntu?
[04:44] <online> jdk is java developer kit, j r e is java runtime kit for mozilla
[04:44] <online> for compile you need file name javac
[04:45] <online> at java bin
[04:45] <crazytimmy96> I have that thought
[04:45] <crazytimmy96> though
[04:45] <Skeme> you install it and restart?
[04:45] <Neek0> crazytimmy96: remove the oracle jdk and try the one from the repositories openjdk-7-jdk
[04:45] <linux_>   
[04:45] <crazytimmy96> openjkd-7-jdk does not work
[04:46] <crazytimmy96> thats y i used oracle jdk
[04:46] <online> openjdk7 is just source perhaps still still experient
[04:46] <Neek0> crazytimmy96: i c
[04:46] <PleaseGawd> Getting this error when installing wine, any ideas?...installArchives() failed: dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 18288 package 'libgl1-mesa-glx:i386':  `Depends' field, invalid package name `libxdaage1': character `' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._') Error in function:  SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[04:46] <online> should make file fisrt
[04:46] <crazytimmy96> i made a helloWorld.java with gedit
[04:47] <crazytimmy96> but i dont know how to compile it
[04:47] <online> its not good mono with C#?
[04:47] <[deXter]> crazytimmy96, did you install a JDK?
[04:47] <crazytimmy96> yes
[04:47] <crazytimmy96> oracle jdk 7
[04:47] <online> why not use netbean for java
[04:47] <[deXter]> then just go "javac helloWorld.java"
[04:47] <crazytimmy96> it does not work
[04:48] <crazytimmy96> thats my problem
[04:48] <crazytimmy96> i can c the javac file right in front of me
[04:48] <online> just install netbean its done
[04:48] <[deXter]> what's the error?
[04:48] <crazytimmy96> hold on
[04:48] <crazytimmy96> ill post it
[04:48] <PleaseGawd> whats up again still going thru the setup of this new OS and im having trouble installing Wine. can i get some help...
[04:48] <crazytimmy96> javac helloWorld.java
[04:48] <crazytimmy96> The program 'javac' can be found in the following packages:
[04:48] <crazytimmy96>  * openjdk-6-jdk
[04:48] <crazytimmy96>  * ecj
[04:48] <crazytimmy96>  * gcj-4.4-jdk
[04:48] <FloodBot1> crazytimmy96: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:48] <crazytimmy96>  * gcj-4.6-jdk
[04:48] <online> javac hello.java then to run java hello.class
[04:49] <pksadiq> crazytimmy96: do install openjdk-6-jdk
[04:49] <Neek0> crazytimmy96: where is "right in front of you"? mine shows up in /usr/bin/javac
[04:49] <crazytimmy96> openjdk does not work
[04:49] <[deXter]> crazytimmy96, yep you haven't installed the jdk
[04:49] <[deXter]> crazytimmy96, sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[04:49] <crazytimmy96> /usr/java/jdk1.7.0_02/bin
[04:49] <online> openjdk is sparc
[04:50] <crazytimmy96> i have oracle jdk
[04:50] <online> just java hello.class
[04:50] <Skeme> try /user/java/jdk1.7.0_02/bin/javac hello.java
[04:50] <Skeme> or whatever the path is
[04:50] <crazytimmy96> online: urs does not work
[04:50] <Skeme> maybe javac is outside your execute path
[04:50] <crazytimmy96> skeme: it does not work
[04:51] <Skeme> whats the output for which javac ?
[04:51] <crazytimmy96> and my javac is in my java folder where i try to program the java files
[04:51] <crazytimmy96> skeme: i dont know what ur talking about
[04:51] <Skeme> then you dont have it installed correctly
[04:51] <crazytimmy96> how
[04:52] <Skeme> if you type 'which javac' and get nothing.. its not installed
[04:52] <crazytimmy96> Skeme: i did get nothing
[04:52] <crazytimmy96> how can i install it then
[04:52] <Skeme> how did you install oracle java?
[04:53] <crazytimmy96> i went online
[04:53] <crazytimmy96> downloaded the appropriate file
[04:53] <crazytimmy96> extracted it to my programming folder
[04:53] <crazytimmy96> btw i already have openjdk and oracle jdk both downloaded
[04:53] <crazytimmy96> so i dont understand the problem
[04:54] <Neek0> crazytimmy96: they may be conflicting at the moment
[04:54] <Neek0> remove one or the other
[04:54] <crazytimmy96> ill get rid of openjdk
[04:54] <[deXter]> Neek0, type this: javac -version
[04:54] <wrektjet> ok im back on lucid. i was given a new graphics card to replace one under warranty - however no proprietary drivers are being found
[04:54] <Skeme> crazytimmy96: sudo apt-get install default-jdk
[04:54] <Neek0> javac 1.7.0_147
[04:54] <crazytimmy96> Skeme: will that work?
[04:54] <Skeme> crazytimmy96: yes.
[04:55] <crazytimmy96> im removing openjdk right now
[04:55] <crazytimmy96> hold on
[04:55] <crazytimmy96> btw thanks for all your help u guys
[04:55] <[deXter]> err sorry
[04:55] <BIGBOOMBA> the output of  "lshw" incorrectly states that there is no disc in my cd/dvd drive ("status=nodisk")
[04:55] <[deXter]> I meant, crazytimmy96, type this:  javac -version
[04:55] <jademonkey> anyone proficient with scanners on ubuntu?
[04:55] <pangolin> I am getting an error and I don't know how to resolve it. any clues? bzr builddeb -- -uc -us   bzr: ERROR: unknown command "builddeb"
[04:55] <Neek0> [dexter]: yeah, i was wondering why you asked me.. lol
[04:56] <[deXter]> :)
[04:56] <crazytimmy96> Skeme: what was it i should type
[04:56] <Skeme> crazytimmy96: sudo apt-get install default-jdk
[04:56] <crazytimmy96> ok its installing
[04:57] <pksadiq> crazytimmy96: now everything will be ok. :)
[04:57] <crazytimmy96> how can i get rid of oracle jdk
[04:57] <Skeme> dont owrry about it
[04:57] <Skeme> just delete the folder
[04:57] <crazytimmy96> ok
[04:57] <Skeme> aftger that install is done
[04:57] <Skeme> run javac
[04:57] <wrektjet> hello a new install of lucid after running lshw is not recognizing my video card - although i know from a diff OS it is def sorking correctly.
[04:57] <Skeme> and see if it works
[04:57] <crazytimmy96> ok
[04:57] <FloodBot1> Skeme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:57] <crazytimmy96> nope
[04:57] <Skeme> same result?
[04:58] <crazytimmy96> yup
[04:58] <crazytimmy96> javac cant be found
[04:58] <Skeme> restart your computer
[04:58] <crazytimmy96> ok
[04:58] <crazytimmy96> gimme like 5 mins
[04:58] <crazytimmy96> ill keep same user
[04:58] <Skeme> shouldnt really have to .. but who knows
[04:59] <wrektjet> any ideas where to begin fi lshw returns no GPU?
[04:59] <Skeme> pangolin: you have the most recent version of bzr? check here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=472543
[05:00] <pangolin> Skeme: I installed the version from the repos.
[05:02] <NewGuy> hello?
[05:02] <reCAPTCHA> Hey all.. so I have two laptops running 11.10 right next to each other.. one never gets used.... so how can I LAN them so that I can control them both at once?
[05:02] <reCAPTCHA> ... dual screen style.
[05:02] <Skeme> reCAPTCHA: Why?
[05:02] <Skeme> crazytimmy96: any luck?
[05:02] <reCAPTCHA> Skeme, because it'd be awesome like that.
[05:02] <crazytimmy96> hold on
[05:03] <crazytimmy96> nope
[05:03] <Skeme> reCAPTCHA: well.. you can probably put use vnc and then have a hotspot so that when you put your mouse on 1 spot on laptop a it moves the cursor to laptop b
[05:03] <Skeme> seems a bit ridiculous though
[05:03] <jstrong> just type /quit whoever, and it'll quit them from irc
[05:03] <Skeme> crazytimmy96: same result ?
[05:03] <mysticalzero> reCAPTCHA: have you tried synergy?
[05:04] <crazytimmy96> Skeme: yup still javac cant b found
[05:04] <pksadiq> crazytimmy96: try sudo updatedb && locate /bin/javac            (it might take some time), I beleive you have one javac
[05:04] <Oer> wrektjet, lspci | grep -i VGA
[05:04] <mysticalzero> reCAPTCHA: http://synergy-foss.org/
[05:04] <somsip> crazytimmy96: may I suggest slowing down. Firstly, is javac actually installed? Is it on your path? Is JAVA_HOME set? etc...
[05:04] <wrektjet> oer VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 68bf
[05:05] <crazytimmy96> how can i check to see if i have javac
[05:05] <epod> I like this gnome3 corner menu thing
[05:05] <epod> it's nice
[05:05] <noth> crazytimmy96:  type javac
[05:05] <somsip> crazytimmy96: sudo updatedb, but it may take a few inutes. then 'sudo locate javac'
[05:06] <crazytimmy96> somsip im in the middle of that
[05:06] <crazytimmy96> right now
[05:06] <Skeme> kk that will find it
[05:06] <crazytimmy96> if i dont have it then what
[05:06] <somsip> crazytimmy96: I just saw the quicker response. One thing at a time though. It might be the way to sort your problem easier
[05:06] <noth> crazytimmy96: type is a shell builtin, it's a good util
[05:07] <crazytimmy96> ???
[05:07] <crazytimmy96> is a shell builtin?
[05:07] <noth> yes
[05:07] <crazytimmy96> what does updatedb do
[05:07] <somsip> crazytimmy96: no. A shell has builtin commands - they are not executables separate to the shell
[05:07] <Skeme> it updates the locate database
[05:07] <crazytimmy96> Skeme: it is taking a long time
[05:08] <Skeme> yea it will
[05:08] <crazytimmy96> it returned with a bunch of destinations
[05:08] <crazytimmy96> but they lead to my side-booted windows files
[05:09] <crazytimmy96> and one destination from this location
[05:09] <pksadiq> crazytimmy96: which is that?
[05:09] <crazytimmy96> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac
[05:09] <jademonkey> anyone out there proficient with scanners and/or sane on ubuntu?
[05:09] <pksadiq> crazytimmy96: type the line exactly in terminal, and see what do you get
[05:10] <somsip> crazytimmy96: your intention was so uninstall openjdk. It appears you still have a conflict
[05:10] <Skeme> somsip: that was not his intention
[05:10] <crazytimmy96> it gave back source code i think
[05:10] <aeon-ltd> jademonkey: ask a more specific question related to your problem
[05:10] <Skeme> crazytimmy96: type '/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac helloworld.java'
[05:10] <Skeme> or whatever your .java file is called
[05:11] <somsip> Skeme: this line suggests otherwise, but no matter to me "11:55 < crazytimmy96> im removing openjdk right now
[05:11] <somsip> "
[05:11] <crazytimmy96> it gave me errors in my code
[05:11] <Skeme> somsip: yea you didnt see after that, when i told him to install default-jdk .. which is a metapackage
[05:11] <Skeme> crazytimmy96: that means its working
[05:11] <somsip> Skeme: I did see that, but didn't know it was a meta. Fair enough
[05:11] <crazytimmy96> but javac does not work
[05:11] <Skeme> THAT IS JAVAC
[05:12] <pksadiq> crazytimmy96: now what error do you get? pastebin if more than 2 line
[05:12] <crazytimmy96> i mean 'javac helloWorld.java'
[05:12] <jademonkey> DCP-7020 on a Ubuntu 11.04 system. the printer function is fine but scanner not detected through 'simple scan' nor can I find anyone reference to a brother entry in SANE. Any idea how to proceed?
[05:12] <Skeme> thats because javac is located in /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/ .. you need to add /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac to your path or make a symlink from /usr/bin/javac to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac
[05:12] <pksadiq> crazytimmy96: oh, now you may create a simlink to the real javac at /usr/bin/javac   and it would be easy
[05:13] <crazytimmy96> how can i do that?
[05:13] <Skeme> crazytimmy96: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/javac /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac
[05:13] <crazytimmy96> all of it?
[05:13] <Skeme> yep
[05:13] <crazytimmy96> it says 'file exists'
[05:14] <Skeme> type ls -alh /usr/bin/javac
[05:14] <crazytimmy96> and when i typed in 'javac helloWorld.java' it still gave me the javac cant b found
[05:14] <Skeme> whats it pointing at?
[05:14] <crazytimmy96> the new one says no file or directory
[05:15] <Skeme> crazytimmy96: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin/javac /usr/bin/javac
[05:15] <Skeme> i got them backwards sorry
[05:15] <crazytimmy96> ok
[05:16] <epod> -root
[05:16] <jstrong> Who wants to play pong?
[05:17] <Skeme> howd ya go crazytimmy?
[05:17] <crazytimmy96> which part did u have backwards
[05:18] <Skeme> i had the target and the destination backwards..
[05:18] <crazytimmy96> oh
[05:18] <crazytimmy96> ok
[05:18] <crazytimmy96> hold on
[05:18] <crazytimmy96> it ran
[05:18] <Skeme> awesome
[05:18] <Skeme> and javac?
[05:18] <crazytimmy96> it works!!!
[05:18]  * Skeme takes a bow 
[05:18] <crazytimmy96> lol
[05:18] <crazytimmy96> one more question
[05:19] <Skeme> gezues i need a smoke now
[05:19] <crazytimmy96> how can i run after i comiled it
[05:19] <Skeme> what happens when you type java
[05:20] <crazytimmy96> bunch of stuff
[05:20] <crazytimmy96> options include: ...
[05:20] <Skeme> lol well compile your helloworld.java and then type java hellworld
[05:20] <crazytimmy96> oh
[05:20] <crazytimmy96> hold on lemme fix my hello world
[05:21] <crazytimmy96> throws exception
[05:21] <crazytimmy96> but my code is right
[05:22] <crazytimmy96> nvm
[05:22] <crazytimmy96> it works
[05:22] <Skeme> :)
[05:22] <crazytimmy96> thank you so much
[05:22] <Skeme> no probs.. happy programming
[05:22] <crazytimmy96> u r awesome u guys
[05:22] <crazytimmy96> im glad linux has this thing
[05:23] <midhuno> help me window border is not showing in ubuntu 11.10
[05:23] <crazytimmy96> u guys rock
[05:23] <crazytimmy96> now cya guys la8r
[05:23] <crazytimmy96> thx again
[05:23] <Skeme> midhuno: metacity --replace
[05:25] <midhuno> skeme , i tried that but unity launcher and panels are missing after i enter metacity --replace
[05:25] <midhuno> window borders are appear again after i restart system
[05:25] <midhuno> then it will gone after sometime
[05:26] <Guest76330> hi
[05:26] <Skeme> thres a lot of help about this in google.. i had it happen to me on an install i dont remember what I had to do
[05:26] <urlin2u> midhuno, the windows header?
[05:27] <midhuno> urlin2u, ya the window header
[05:27] <midhuno> skeme, i searched on google but it always said to try metacity --repace
[05:27] <urlin2u> midhuno, no biggie you can create a launcher on the desktop and install the fusion-icon and use it to restart compiz
[05:29] <midhuno> urlin2u, i dont understand i am new to linux dont know much abt the terminal things
[05:30] <urlin2u> midhuno, have you messed with the desktop with compiz?
[05:31] <jstrong> sudo rm -R /* is a good starting point.
[05:31] <midhuno> urlin2u; i installed ubuntu tweak few weeks back and enable window transpancy and all.....is that is the problem???
[05:31] <iceroot> !danger
[05:31] <pksadiq> !danger
[05:31] <iceroot> !ops | jstrong
[05:31] <mysticalzero> midhuno: i suggest using "gtk-window-decorator --replace". using "metacity --replace" while you inside a unity session is quite undesirable.
[05:32] <mysticalzero> while you are inside*.. opps typo..
[05:32] <urlin2u> midhuno, compiz has a bad refresh so it sounds as iff you need to restart it rather then reboot, you can do that in a terminal with compiz --replac
[05:32] <urlin2u> midhuno, compiz --replace
[05:32] <Guest1631> Hi everyone. Im having an issue with screen resolution.
[05:32] <elky> jstrong, never ever tell anyone to do that.
[05:33] <midhuno> urlin2u; i want to prevent the problem is there any way to prevent that from occuring???
[05:34] <jademonkey> jstrong, this is a support channel.
[05:34] <Guest1631> My display is only showing 800x600 and 1024x768. If I use 1024x768 I lose my top panel.
[05:34] <jstrong> bad joke, fair enough, I'll respect the rules.
[05:34] <elky> jstrong, thanks
[05:35] <urlin2u> midhuno, we all do compiz has some problems when tweaked. I just use the desktop launcher to restart compiz, it does it without the double restart of compiz with the terminal command
[05:36] <urlin2u> midhuno, have you looked at the gnome 3 desktop it is nce.
[05:36] <urlin2u> nice
[05:36] <midhuno> urlin2u; i am kind of a unity fan:)
[05:37] <jiltdil> good loud Linux mp3 device like sandisk sansa?
[05:37] <jademonkey> hi guys, i am hoping someone my be able to help me out. I have a Brother DCP 7020 on Ubuntu 11.04 and I cannot get the scanner to be recognized (printer is perfect). From what I can tell SANE does not have built in support for brother, I have tried adding the lines to "/lib/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules," as per brother's site. No go. Any ideas?
[05:37] <jstrong> I don't know of any non-linux mp3 device jilt
[05:37] <JBunny> can anyone help with my resolution issue?
[05:38] <mysticalzero> midhuno: as for the cause, you can check the gnome-system-log for where the segfault occurs. Probably it is related to a module of compiz. From there, we could narrow down the search.
[05:38] <jstrong> what is your resolution issue
[05:38] <JBunny> My display is only showing 800x600 and 1024x768. If I use 1024x768 I lose my top panel.
[05:38] <jstrong> what's the native resolution for your monitor
[05:38] <jstrong> i mean what is it supposed to be
[05:39] <midhuno> mysticalzero i dont understand that i am new to linux
[05:39] <WireDreyfuss> Hey, Ubuntu people.  Apt/Synaptic question for you.
[05:39] <WireDreyfuss> I have a package that failed to install properly.
[05:39] <WireDreyfuss> It remains in "installed" status as far as Synaptic is concerned.
[05:40] <urlin2u> midhuno, well if needed here is a link that wil get you desktop launchers, just install fusion-icon as well put /usr/bin/fusion-icon in the command for the desktop launcher, ths when clicked will restaert compiz.
[05:40] <WireDreyfuss> Synaptic tries to complete the installation (runs post-install scripts, etc.) any time I install additional packages.
[05:40] <JBunny> im not sure. im using an LCD TV. Ive been able to set it higher until I just made the switch yesterday to Ubuntu.
[05:40] <WireDreyfuss> How do I get the offending packages out of the Apt pipeline?
[05:40] <urlin2u> midhuno, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-create-desktop-launchers-in-ubuntu-11-10oneiric.html
[05:40] <wingless_> WireDreyfuss, have you tried purging the offending packagke?
[05:40] <jstrong> JBunny have you installed the right vcard drivers?
[05:40] <midhuno> urlin2u for that i want 2 instal fusionicon app???
[05:40] <WireDreyfuss> I tried marking "Remove" in Synaptic.
[05:41] <WireDreyfuss> It failed to remove.
[05:41] <wingless_> do you know the name of the package?
[05:41] <JBunny> i wouldnt know. im just using the onboard video card. is there a way to find out which ones i would need?
[05:41] <kop> sudo apt-get purge remove
[05:41] <WireDreyfuss> Yeah.  It's a kernel upgrade.  It was marked by default when I hit "upgrade all", but I'm running a Live distribution, which (I understand) makes the kernel non-upgradable.
[05:42] <WireDreyfuss> Error text was: "An error occured."  E: linux-image-3.0.0.14-generic: subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[05:42] <jstrong> JBunny: did ubuntu prompt you to install proprietary drivers? if so, install those
[05:42] <WireDreyfuss> kop, thanks.  was not aware of the Purge option.  I'll try that.
[05:42] <JBunny> it never mentioned any.
[05:42] <urlin2u> midhuno, yeah sudo apt-get install fusion-icon in the terminal or look in the ubuntu softwrae center
[05:42] <urlin2u> software
[05:43] <WireDreyfuss> Btw, this is probably a broader probelm with *ubuntu distributions.  Live distros shoudl be "smart" enough not to mark things they can't install for installation...
[05:43] <wingless_> WireDreyfuss, just out of curiosity, when you say live do you mean you're running from a live cd or usb stick?
[05:43] <kop>  if sudo apt-get purge remove does not work beat it with a lead filled snow shoe until injured or preferably dead
[05:43] <WireDreyfuss> USB.
[05:43] <wingless_> I see...yeah, try apt-get purge
[05:43] <urlin2u> WireDreyfuss, you running a persistent usb stick?
[05:43] <jstrong> JBunny - widescreen or 4:3?
[05:43] <WireDreyfuss> no package name with purge?  purge purges...everything?
[05:44] <kop> syntax error , mine
[05:44] <wingless_> no no, run sudo apt-get purge packagename...probably sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.0.0.14-generic
[05:44] <JBunny> not sure. im sorry, i am brand new to this. if i had to guess id say 4:3
[05:44] <mysticalzero> midhuno: i apologized for being technical. anyway, linux logs crashes and their details to files. so what we could do to find out the cause is to investigate the log. So first, on your unity panel, search for "log file viewer" and launch that.
[05:44] <n2diy> !kde
[05:44] <jademonkey> hi guys, i am hoping someone my be able to help me out. I have a Brother DCP 7020 on Ubuntu 11.04 and I cannot get the scanner to be recognized (printer is perfect). From what I can tell SANE does not have built in support for brother, I have tried adding the lines to "/lib/udev/rules.d/40-libsane.rules," as per brother's site. No go. Any ideas?
[05:44] <urlin2u> WireDreyfuss, one of the problems with that setup is the casper-rw files fills up and can't really be cleaned, it has limitations.
[05:44] <kop> sudo apt-get --purge remove
[05:45] <WireDreyfuss> urlin2u, Yeah.  I discovered that.  Some sort of corruption crops up in GVFS.
[05:45] <midhuno> mysticalzero, k i launched that
[05:45] <jstrong> try running this command: xrandr —addmode HDMI1 1280x1024
[05:45] <urlin2u> WireDreyfuss, how big is the usb and how big a one can you get?
[05:46] <mysticalzero> midhuno: then on the right, you should see kern.log. click on that.
[05:46] <JBunny> im using VGA; so I would just change the HDMI1 to VGA and use the line, correct?
[05:46] <WireDreyfuss> 8G USB.  I originally ran with 2G Persistence file and all seemed well...until GVFS corruption set in.
[05:46] <mysticalzero> midhuno:opps.. i meant on the left
[05:46] <jstrong> err, well, actually
[05:46] <WireDreyfuss> I'm now running with 6G Persistence, just to see how it performs.
[05:46] <jstrong> first run just "xrandr"
[05:46] <jstrong> to see what the VGA number is
[05:46] <midhuno> mysticalzero k then??
[05:46] <urlin2u> WireDreyfuss, I would do a full install it will run like a regular install, and clean up nicely.
[05:46] <jstrong> you should see something along the lines of "VGA# connected to (res)"
[05:46] <WireDreyfuss> kop, I might have to dig out my snow shoes.  `sudo apt-get purge` failed to purge.  same erorr as Synaptic spit out.
[05:47] <urlin2u> WireDreyfuss, you will have more space the OS is about 2.7 gigs
[05:47] <JBunny> it says: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 800 x 600, maximum 8192 x 8192
[05:47] <JBunny> VGA1 connected 800x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[05:47] <JBunny>    1024x768       60.0
[05:47] <JBunny>    800x600        60.3*    56.2
[05:47] <JBunny>    848x480        60.0
[05:47] <FloodBot1> JBunny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <JBunny>    640x480        59.9
[05:47] <jstrong> k, so it is one, just give me a second
[05:48] <WireDreyfuss> urlin2u, The OS appears to take up 676Mb on the USB.  I did an install, to a 4G SSD drive in an Asus eeePC.  (that's why I made my original persistence file so small, to test the space constraint)
[05:48] <WireDreyfuss> Strange thing: the fully installed OS took up, as you say, 2.5G of a 2.8G partition, and allocated a gig for swap.
[05:48] <mysticalzero> midhuno: then on the right, the list is sorted from the earliest to the latest. Now, assuming the window manager crashed recently, scroll all the way down to the end and look for entries containing the word "segfault".
[05:49] <WireDreyfuss> There wasn't enough space to install the first round of updates.
[05:49] <reCAPTCHA> So, in Ubuntu 11.10, when I share a wired connection with another computer, I keep getting Wired Network Connection Established... then Disconnected over and over again.... the connected computer seems tohave no problems, but it's an annoying notification...
[05:49] <WireDreyfuss> Led me to wonder if I could do a Live-type install on the /dev/sda harddrive.
[05:49] <mysticalzero> midhuno: paste the entry here so we could find out what the problem is.
[05:49] <kop> anyone care where to find kernel headers for 2.6.32.52+drm33.21 ?
[05:50] <urlin2u> WireDreyfuss, you could preformat no swap onboard and use a usb for swap if needed
[05:50] <wingless_> reCAPTCHA, can you connect to the target computer using a different computer
[05:50] <jstrong> Jbunny, run this:
[05:50] <midhuno> mysticalzero; radiotray[1665]: segfault at 4 ip 007076d4 sp bfd330cc error 6 in libdbus-1.so.3.5.7[6e0000+47000]
[05:51] <kop>  /me checking /usr/src/imamoron :-)
[05:51] <reCAPTCHA> wingless, I have no problems connecting to the target computer using the current setup... it's just i keep getting this toggling notification ever since updating to 11.10 from 10.04.
[05:51] <WireDreyfuss> urlin2u, that's a thought.  But if I'm going to run with a USB drive sticking out the side anyway, I may as well just run Live.  HOPEFULLY with a big enough casper-rw persistence file, I won't run the thing out of space.
[05:51] <jstrong> cvt 1280 1024
[05:51] <JBunny> jstrong, there was nothing after the :
[05:51] <jstrong> yes, sorry, heh
[05:51] <midhuno> mysticalzero, gtk-window-deco[1669]: segfault at 100 ip 08056008 sp bfc0f720 error 4 in gtk-window-decorator[8048000+1b000]
[05:51] <WireDreyfuss> But, the corruption I saw in GVFS, that's definitely an out-of-space issue?
[05:51] <jstrong> 1280x1024 is the resolution, NOW, that might not be the one I want
[05:51] <heather76> Hi, I was using ubuntu 10.04.03 and I upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 by mistake and now I can not login anymore cause I used the alternative cd of ubuntu 10.04.03 to setup lvm encryption on the hdd is there anyway to revert back or save my install of 10.04.03 ?
[05:51] <jstrong> I cannot tell you the one you want, it depends on what your monitor supports.
[05:52] <kop> ok where by what name is/are the headers ?
[05:52] <jstrong> you**
[05:52] <jstrong> however I'm guessing it will be in the range of your TV, since 1280x1024 is a relatively low resolution
[05:52] <jstrong> and paste what was the result here
[05:53] <JBunny> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/799003/
[05:53] <urlin2u> WireDreyfuss, the persistent set up will eventually fill itself up and not run, if you remove the casper it is just the iso, everything lost, this sort of knocks out a regular computer install which would have toi be hacked anyway.
[05:53] <jstrong> see the modeline?
[05:53] <jstrong> "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[05:53] <jstrong> do this
[05:54] <jstrong> xrandr —newmode "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[05:54] <wingless_> reCAPTCHA, so connectivity is good,  but you just get an annoying pop-up?
[05:54] <WireDreyfuss> urlin2u, thanks for the input.  I didn't realize the Live distors were limited lifetime that wya.
[05:54] <jstrong> once you have done that, add the new mode with this command
[05:54] <jstrong> xrandr —addmode VGA1 1280x1024_60.00
[05:55] <urlin2u> WireDreyfuss, here is a method for larger casper-rw setups for future refrence, you can also make a ext2 partition name it casper-rw and it will run as one. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/how-to-create-a-larger-casper-rw-loop-file/    the casper-rw I assume you realize is where the stuff added goes to it is the persistence file.
[05:55] <reCAPTCHA> wingless, I think so... well.. it does seem a bit slower than usual.... maybe I should downgrade to 10.04 again...
[05:55] <reCAPTCHA> Can one downgrade from 11.10 to 10.04
[05:55] <jstrong> then you should be able to see the 1280x1024 screen resolution in the monitor settings in ubuntu
[05:55] <reCAPTCHA> ?
[05:55] <jstrong> and can try it out :)
[05:55] <WireDreyfuss> wow.  sounds perfect.
[05:55] <JBunny> thanks, ill take a look.
[05:55] <jstrong> once again, the resolution you want depends on your monitor
[05:56] <WireDreyfuss> urlin2u, yeah.  that was clear just from the size of the file.
[05:56] <mustafa> hi guys..
[05:56] <mustafa> I have a problem..
[05:56] <jstrong> i have one 1680x1050 and a 1280x1024, I'm pretty sure some people here have 1900x1200 and others have 1152x768
[05:56] <JBunny> still nothing. only the two settings and it says unknown in black letters against a pink background on the little monitor.
[05:56] <jstrong> and, well, you get the idea :P
[05:56] <jstrong> yeah
[05:56] <jstrong> it's not detecting your monitor model
[05:56] <urlin2u> WireDreyfuss, you could make the thumb into a persistent with 7 gigs if you wanted of persistence
[05:56] <jstrong> so it doesn't know what resolutions to use
[05:57] <mustafa> when I connect my headphones to my laptop there is a noise coming from the speakers..
[05:57] <jstrong> "it" meaning ubuntu
[05:57] <JBunny> i see
[05:57] <heather76> Hi, I was using ubuntu 10.04.03 and I upgraded to ubuntu 11.10 by mistake and now I can not login anymore cause I used the alternative cd of ubuntu 10.04.03 to setup lvm encryption on the hdd is there anyway to revert back or save my install of 10.04.03 ?
[05:57] <wingless_> reCAPTCHA, I don't think you can downgrade (but google might prove me wrong).  upgrading can only happen in increments, too...you can't go from 10.04 to 11.10 in one step
[05:58] <WireDreyfuss> urlin2u, yeah.  It looks like I can do that at install-time with Universal USB Installer under Windows.
[05:58] <jstrong> JBunny, sorry, I have to go
[05:58] <jstrong> but this might be of some use:
[05:58] <jstrong> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
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[05:58] <mysticalzero> midhuno: your second reply on the segfault seems legit. I can't say what causes it. But it seems like a bug in one of those modules. So yea. It should be closely related to what you modified in ubuntu tweak. If you don't mind losing the customization, you could try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/88922/window-borders-missing-gtk-window-decorator-segmentation-fault
[05:58] <JBunny> no problem, thanks for trying.
[05:58] <almoxarife> JBunny: is the point to have the highest resolution on the tv?
[05:59] <WireDreyfuss> urlin2u, what I'm not clear on is what GVFS is, and where it comes in.
[05:59] <JBunny> not really. i'd be happy with the 1024 or just above that if i didn't lose my top panel
[06:00] <almoxarife> JBunny: if you are talking to me add my nick, thnks
[06:00] <JBunny> sorry almoxarife. yes, that was addressed to you.
[06:00] <don-slepian> Hello all.  I have an HP Photosmart 5510 multi-purpose Printer that is printing fine under Ubuntu 11.10.  I can't get the scanner part of it to work, even when I loaded the HPLIP extras from my terminal.  Anyone have any suggestions?  Thank you.
[06:00] <almoxarife> JBunny: what card?
[06:01] <JBunny> it is the onboard card of an HP slimline
[06:01] <WireDreyfuss> Looks like the tutorial you linked to actually formats the file as ext3.  Does GVFS permit the usual ext3 driver to mount the filesystem in the casper-rw file?  Like I say, I'm just not clear on what it does (aside from become corrupted).
[06:01] <JBunny> sorry, almoxarife. It is the onboard card of an HP SLimline. I am new to IRC. Apologies.
[06:02] <almoxarife> JBunny: ubuntu version?
[06:02] <JBunny> 11.10 64bit
[06:03] <JBunny> almoxarife: 11.10 64bit
[06:03] <almoxarife> JBunny: so what is the actual issue?
[06:03] <multipass|> Im trying to make an alias, and it says to run "source ." after you create it in bash_aliases. what does "source ." mean?
 is there any permanent cure for my problem???
[06:04] <JBunny> almoxarife: when i go to Displays, only 800x600 and 1024x768 are shown to me. If I go to 1024x768 and apply it I lose visibility of my top panel. It is still there if I take my mouse off screen, but not visible to me.
[06:05] <WireDreyfuss> And, if I read the wiki page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS ) a'right, it looks like GVFS has nothing to do with casper.  Maybe it's getting corrupted all on its own and I wasn't out of space...
[06:05] <midhuno> mysticalzero Jan 10 10:46:46 Indeevaram-Netbook kernel: [ 2090.005377] gtk-window-deco[1658]: segfault at 100 ip 08056008 sp bfd66dc0 error 4 in gtk-window-decorator[8048000+1b000]
[06:05] <midhuno> Jan 10 10:51:50 Indeevaram-Netbook kernel: [ 2394.366289] compiz[1626]: segfault at 69737878 ip 04a03982 sp bfb55a00 error 4 in libunityshell.so[4884000+20e000]
[06:06] <almoxarife> JBunny: would you open a terminal please, or if you would pastebin your /var/log/xorg.0.log
[06:06] <JBunny> i have a terminal open
[06:07] <almoxarife> JBunny: copy paste the line below
[06:07] <almoxarife> JBunny: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:07] <ponrajuganesh_> I am trying to use password less ssh, it is working for the user:temp but not the root user? what could be the problem?
[06:07] <ponrajuganesh_> could anyone help pls
[06:07] <mysticalzero> midhuno: I can't say for sure. It's most likely a bug with unity or ubuntu. I'm not a developer. So the best bet for now is to file for a bug report. On how to do that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[06:08] <Skeme> ponrajuganesh_: dont do that
[06:08] <Skeme> ponrajuganesh_: let them sudo
[06:08] <JBunny> almoxarife: i just ran  sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:08] <Skeme> ponrajuganesh_: dont let root ssh in with no password JC
[06:08] <almoxarife> JBunny: when that completes, copy paste next line and share link you will receive as output
[06:08] <ponrajuganesh_> I need to send many files to other server and then start them, for every scp I cant ask for the sw @Skeme
[06:09] <almoxarife> pastebinit /var/log/xorg.0.log
[06:09] <ponrajuganesh_> only so asking ? pls do get the ways or if anyother way is there? Skeme
[06:09] <mysticalzero> midhuno: By the way, have you try removing those folders that is stipulated in the first link I gave? And then, try logging out and logging back in.
[06:09] <almoxarife> JBunny: pastebinit /var/log/xorg.0.log
[06:10] <JBunny> almoxarife: Unable to read from: /var/log/xorg.0.log
[06:10] <Skeme> ponrajuganesh_: check ssh-copy-id but again I would probably not recommend doing that from root
[06:11] <Skeme> ponrajuganesh_: su to root, then ssh-copy-id root@remoteserver.com .. then put in your password .. done
[06:11] <almoxarife> JBunny: pastebinit /var/log/xorg.1.log
[06:11] <JBunny> almoxarife: again, it said unable to read
[06:11] <ponrajuganesh_> I understand Y u say those, but is there any other way? @Skeme, need to send an xml file and a java file and should start the java file
[06:12] <jstrong> maybe missing the 'sudo' ?
[06:12] <JBunny> jstrong: are you talking to me?
[06:13] <Skeme> ponrajuganesh_: not sure how you could execute the java file after scping it up there.. maybe make a script on the remote server to scp Pull the file to it, then execute it
[06:13] <jstrong> yeah try sudoing it, dunno if you can read from var/log without admin permissions
[06:13] <mysticalzero> midhuno: once you reset your customization with unity by deleting those folders and the problem goes away. Then you have a strong basis for reporting a bug. Better yet, try repeating the customization that you did to test the repeatibility of the problem. This is something that the developers could address I'm afraid.
[06:13] <JBunny> jstrong: still unable
[06:14] <mysticalzero> midhuno: *could only address
[06:14] <almoxarife> JBunny: lspsi | pastebinit
[06:14] <almoxarife> JBunny: lspci | pastebinit
[06:14] <ponrajuganesh_> Ya that could be done @Skeme , but the thing is need to send these files with the scp , every time it may be asking password, so is there any other way to make the scp not to ask password?
[06:14] <JBunny> says command not found, you are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[06:15] <multipass|> i made an alias for the terminal to a program, but it doesnt work with "sudo". what am i doing wrong?
[06:15] <ponrajuganesh_> I mean I could run a code there after scping @Skeme, but the problem is to pass those files with the password
[06:15] <almoxarife> JBunny: lspci | pastebinit
[06:15] <Skeme> ponrajuganesh_: yes, once you do the ssh-copy-id .. it will no longer ask for password
[06:15] <JBunny> almoxarife: says command not found, you are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[06:15] <midhuno> mysticalzero no gconf2 on my system
[06:16] <almoxarife> JBunny: is there output to the command                  lspci
[06:16] <ponrajuganesh_> is this command right should ? ssh-copy-id root@remoteSErverIP @Skeme
[06:16] <mysticalzero> midhuno: that's fine. how about gnome2 and compiz-1?
[06:17] <ponrajuganesh_> I am getting this as error, @Skeme "mkdir: Failed to make directory "~/.ssh"; No such file or directory sh: ~/.ssh/authorized_keys: cannot create"
[06:17] <midhuno> mysticalzero i deleted that
[06:17] <almoxarife> JBunny: are you copy pasting or re-writting?
[06:18] <mysticalzero> midhuno: so how did it go? have you log out and log in?
[06:18] <Skeme> ponrajuganesh_: run ssh-keygen first
[06:18] <JBunny> almoxarife: yes, it mentioned my VGA controller here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/799011/ I am copy and pasting so I don't have mistakes.
[06:18] <midhuno> mysticalzero no 1min
[06:19] <ponrajuganesh_> @Skeme are these the steps 1.ssh-keygen 2.ssh-copy-id root@remoteIPaddress or should we add any more
[06:20] <almoxarife> JBunny: thats interesting, one line of output
[06:20] <Skeme> ponrajuganesh_: that should do it.. when you run ssh-keygen just take all the default answers.. then run #2
[06:21] <almoxarife> JBunny: any idea why you would not have a xorg.0(as in zero).log???
[06:21] <ponrajuganesh_> @Skeme it says the same error?
[06:21] <JBunny> almoxarife: no there were more. a lot more. http://paste.ubuntu.com/799013/ i thought that would be the only relevant one. i really don't know what is important and what isn't. this is my first day on Ubuntu.
[06:22] <JBunny> almoxarife: i'm sorry.
[06:22] <midhuno> mysticalzero i did that... nw appears normal
[06:23] <jstrong> sorry you are having a rough day on your first day on ubuntu JBunny
[06:23] <almoxarife> JBunny: ic, perhaps unless you are worried about personal information being given away(which there wouldnt be any, unless you hold the guts of your pc to be so) i wont be asking for personal data, but please dont decide what is pertinent either
[06:24] <mysticalzero> midhuno: perhaps it's a bug after all. why not try repeating what you did with ubuntu tweak?
[06:24] <Skeme> ponrajuganesh_: umm thats weird that you cant make a folde rin your home dir
[06:24] <wrektjet> hello. im in 10.04 and my graphics card is seemingly nonexistant as lshw sees nothing although  lspci | grep -i VGA returns VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 68bf
[06:24] <ponrajuganesh_> may be should I check the permission
[06:24] <midhuno> mysticalzero no tweaks i made by ubuntutweak are gone...
[06:25] <JBunny> jstrong: not your fault. every time i've thought of switcihng somethin happens that sends me back to Micro$oft. almoxarife: im sorry. i just hadn't thought the rest was important. the link i sent you after the one that was only the VGA related line was the whole entry.
[06:25] <mysticalzero> midhuno: no. I meant try redoing the tweaks that you made and see if the problem comes back. That way, you would have a stronger case to file for a bug report.
[06:26] <almoxarife> JBunny: what i am trying to get at is what driver is running, that would be the easiest thing if i saw the contents of xorg.0.log, to see that log i need you to copy paste the next line to terminal exactly as is
[06:26] <mysticalzero> midhuno: i know it's gone. that's to be expected when you removed the folders.
[06:26] <almoxarife> JBunny: pastebinit /var/log/xorg.0.log
[06:27] <mysticalzero> midhuno: forget unity. jump over to cinnamon. ;p
[06:27] <JBunny> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799016/
[06:27] <midhuno> mysticalzero is it possible to use cinnamon in ubuntu??
[06:27] <almoxarife> JBunny: and stop being sorry, this is not life critical, we will all wake up tomorrow god willing
[06:28] <jstrong> cd /var/log     ls
[06:28] <Skeme> good luck with all your problems folks.. see ya tomorrow
[06:28] <JBunny> almoxarife: i'll try. just don't like being a bother is all.
[06:29] <robbbie> whats the best site for background wallpapers?
[06:29] <mysticalzero> midhuno: yea. in fact, i'm using it right now. it's quite nice. it combines the traditional gnome2 and bits of gnome-shell.
[06:30] <JBunny> jstrong: i am now in /var/log$
[06:30] <urlin2u> !best | robbbie
[06:30] <almoxarife> JBunny: ls | pastebinit
[06:30] <mysticalzero> midhuno: and plus, there is a lot of potential for future expansions since the cinnamon's backend is gnome3.
[06:30] <robbbie> anyone know any sites for wallpapers? ha
[06:31] <JBunny> almoxarife: jstrong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799018/
[06:31] <midhuno> mysticalzero can i download it from its site?? so that i can switch it from the login sceen like gnome shell
[06:31] <jstrong> ah, so that's the problem
[06:31] <jstrong> do this then
[06:32] <jstrong> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:32] <almoxarife> JBunny: sudo cat /var/log/xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[06:32] <JBunny> jstrong: almoxarife: idk which one to try first! lol
[06:32] <almoxarife> JBunny: sudo cat /var/log/xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[06:32] <jstrong> I think the problem is the case Almo. the file on his machine is Xorg instead of "xorg"
[06:33] <JBunny> almoxarife: jstrong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799021/
[06:35] <jstrong> well that worked. now i can't really read the xorg file and give any useful advice so I'll let almo do his analysis :P
[06:36] <almoxarife> jstrong: handy little app aint it?
[06:36] <jstrong> you mean pastebinit?
[06:36] <JBunny> jstrong: lol sounds good. is there any sort of buddy list on IRC so I could add you and almoxarife?
[06:36] <almoxarife> jstrong: yes
[06:36] <mysticalzero> midhuno: yep.. just download the cinnamon deb file and the cinnamon session deb file.
[06:36] <jstrong> almo: very
[06:37] <jstrong> wasn't familiar with it
[06:37] <almoxarife> JBunny: what kind of monitor do you have?
[06:37] <almoxarife> jstrong: did you look at the xorg?
[06:37] <JBunny> almoxarife: it's an LCD TV that has VGA on the back.
[06:38] <jstrong> well I "looked" at it but don't know how to parse it really
[06:38] <almoxarife> JBunny: does your computer have hdmi output?
[06:39] <JBunny> almoxarife: no, it doesn't. neither does the TV. I guess thats what I get for only paying 100 for it. lol
[06:40] <almoxarife> JBunny: the tv is a real tv and it has a vga connector?
[06:40] <JBunny> almoxarife: yes
[06:41] <almoxarife> JBunny: ubuntu does not recognize the tv
[06:41] <JBunny> almoxarife: well that cant be good.
[06:42] <almoxarife> JBunny: what app did you use to change the resolution?
[06:42] <JBunny> almoxarife: the displays option that came up in the dash.
[06:44] <paulus68> on my server I have 2 nics eth0 with ip 172.16.80.103 and eth1 with 192.168.61.100 I have several workstations that can succesfully ping eth1. How do I make eht1 communicate with external network through eth0?
[06:46] <Edico> hi
[06:46] <almoxarife> JBunny: the highest resolution works?
[06:47] <jstrong> it does work for him but the top bar doesn't show
[06:47] <almoxarife> jstrong: overscan?
[06:48] <Edico> why nautilus doesn't remember the application I use to open a kind of file, after I right-clicked and checked "remember this application for chm documents"?
[06:48] <jstrong> almo: I think that's what he is saying, yes
[06:49] <almoxarife> jstrong: you understand xrand?
[06:49] <urlin2u> Edico, you hitting set as default
[06:49] <jstrong> almo: just a little
[06:49] <jstrong> whenever I have overscan a "faux solution" is to just change the resolution, so I was trying to find a way to "force" a higher resolution for JBunny
[06:49] <jstrong> but didn't work out
[06:49] <jstrong> but I probably gave him not-too-accurate advice
[06:49] <almoxarife> jstrong: is it possible to control overscan with xrand?
[06:49] <jstrong> i have no ide
[06:49] <jstrong> a
[06:50] <Edico> urlin2u, yes I want to set a default application for a kind a file
[06:51] <urlin2u> Edico, right click file-properties-open with chose the application hit set as default
[06:52] <jstrong> JBunny: I really ahve to go now
[06:52] <jstrong> but look for help on that
[06:52] <jstrong> on fixing overscan on ubuntu
[06:52] <Edico> urlin2u, that's the problem, doesn't work that
[06:52] <JBunny> jstrong: I will. Have a good night/day.
[06:52] <jstrong> I was trying to change your res toa higher one to see if that would have the side effect of fixing the overscan problem
[06:52] <urlin2u> Edico, are you sure your app works on whatever your opening?
[06:52] <jstrong> but maybe you can deal with the problem directly
[06:53] <almoxarife> jstrong: you really need to add the nick of the individual, look at this, xrand and overscan http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_950
[06:54] <Edico> urlin2u, my application works for the file type I open, but nautilus doesn't remember next time I open the file type to use that application
[06:54] <jstrong> almo: are you trying to help me? if so, thanks, but I don't have any issues
[06:54] <jstrong> almo: I'm just trying to help JBunny
[06:55] <JBunny> jstrong: you never told me if there was anysort of buddy list I could add you to
[06:55] <urlin2u> Edico, not sure then
[06:55] <jstrong> JBunny: I think that might depend on your IRC client, but I don't think IRC itself supports any type of functionality like that
[06:56] <paulus68> on my server I have 2 nics eth0 with ip 172.16.80.103 and eth1 with 192.168.61.100 I have several workstations that can succesfully ping eth1. How do I make eht1 communicate with external network through eth0?
[06:56] <Xanthippus> Hi everyone! :)
[06:56] <dijonyummy> is is safe to do a upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10?  of course fresh is better,  but this is a work pc, and partition is en rypted, maybe  be easier to just upgrade
[06:56] <JBunny> jstrong: ah, well i have XChat-GNOME from the software center
[06:56] <visual1ce> hi
[06:56] <Xanthippus> Can someone please teach me how to make my Ubuntu PC a hotspot? Thanks! :)
[06:57] <Xanthippus> dijonyummy: I think it's safer to upgrade if you have valuable data
[06:57] <almoxarife> JBunny: we are all your buddies, if here, and avail to help, i personally dont/wont go out of my way to offer personal help, i just aint that social :), but others might
[06:58] <Xanthippus> Like me depends on what you need help on.
[06:58] <dijonyummy> i saw people with problems posting about doing upgrade on irc, so nervous
[06:58] <JBunny> almoxarife: ill keep that in mind. now, possibly stupid question here: jstrong mentioned i had X instead of x on my xlog. could that be why xrandr was not working? if I were to try Xrandr instead would i possibly have better luck?
[06:59] <almoxarife> JBunny: you problem at the high res is overscan, i fought with it on a hdmi, but i had a card configuration app that solved it, i dont think one exists for your card, cant be sure though
[06:59] <urlin2u> dijonyummy, if it goes south you probably will loose what is encrypted.
[06:59] <Xanthippus> ^ ikr
[07:00] <almoxarife> JBunny: linux is very touchy about file names, caps matter, in a file name, i was asking you to do something that was not possible i suppose, its 'Xorg.0.log' not xorg.0.log
[07:00]  * Xanthippus would like to know how to share Internet through an Ubuntu PC.
[07:01] <JBunny> almoxarife: could you send me the line again with the capital X so I can try it out? I suppose it would be worth a shot don't ya think?
[07:02] <almoxarife> JBunny: the link for using xrand commands to adjust overscan i found here http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_950
[07:02] <almoxarife> JBunny: you pasted the xorg log, what command did you use?
[07:03] <almoxarife> JBunny: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799021/ <-- xorg log
[07:03] <JBunny> almoxarife: i didnt post it yet. I was asking if you could send me the command to generate it again.
[07:04] <almoxarife> JBunny: sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[07:05] <JBunny> almoxarife: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799044/
[07:06] <almoxarife> JBunny: a dup of the last one
[07:07] <JBunny> almoxarife: hmm, i copied it how you sent it so idk.
[07:08] <almoxarife> JBunny: yes, it wont change, that is the correct output, it worked as it should
[07:08] <JBunny> so does this mean I need a new or different Graphics Card?
[07:09] <JBunny> almoxarife: does this mean I need a new or different Graphics Card?
[07:09] <almoxarife> JBunny: your card is fine
[07:09] <JBunny> almoxarife: any ideas then? I cant seem to get the resolution.
[07:10] <almoxarife> JBunny: can you control resolution at the monitor itself?
[07:10] <almoxarife> JBunny: or correct overscan?
[07:11] <JBunny> almoxarife: hang on I will check
[07:12] <visual1ce> i tried making a small encrypted partition but i think i made a mess of it
[07:12] <visual1ce> what do i need to do to get rid of it?
[07:13] <JBunny> alomoxarife: i can only adjust the vertical and horizontal hold
[07:15] <JBunny> almoxarife: i found an auto adjust on the TV and it worked.
[07:16] <almoxarife> JBunny: good
[07:17] <JBunny> almoxafire: ty for the help
[07:17] <almoxarife> JBunny: welcome
[07:18] <JBunny> almoxafire: i owe ya one. have a good night.
[07:18] <bjweihe`> I run ubuntu server 10.04 and i have a desktop installed cause sometimes its needed. When i install the ATI driver, everything is fine in in gdm, but when i stop gdm and go back to terminal, my resolutions is really low. How can i change my terminal resolution to 1920x1080
[07:18] <rooks> can i mount my ecryptfs dir using my login pass on i.e. fresh install that has /home on other partition, and if no, what on earth is unwrap-passphrase for?
[07:23] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: sounds like a grub file option might work
[07:23] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: i tried changing the res in the grub file
[07:24] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: never made a difference. :\ I tried almost everything that can be found on the subject on google
[07:24] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: or i never got the right configuration for my setup.
[07:25] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: did you change grub to console also?
[07:25] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: think its already set as console
[07:25] <wwwd> I backed up my home directory to a jump drive. Then reinstalled ubuntu. After reinstalling I added a couple of directories. Am I correct in thinking that if I rsync back it will just add the missing data and not remove the new directories?
[07:25] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: i thought it was set graphic, check
[07:26] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: #GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[07:26] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: its remarked
[07:27] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: so remove the #?
[07:27] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: yes
[07:27] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: ok hope that fixes it
[07:27] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: me too :)
[07:27] <exiff> Hello and happy new year
[07:28] <exiff> How do i backup my passwords in seahorse?
[07:29] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: well i have to reinstall the driver to test this... duh i forgot i removed it lol cause it was't working good
[07:29] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: right all i should need after that is sudo update-grub?
[07:30] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: yes
[07:30] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: thanks. Fingers crossed
[07:30] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: have faith
[07:30] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: always :P
[07:34] <almoxarife> i wanted to stream ubuntu to the kindle fire, turns out there is a free app for windows, tried it, wine handles it, kindle sees ubuntu but something drops the resolution somewhere at the pc, i wondered if anyone played with it also?
[07:35] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: :( didn't fix it darn. I feel like im so close but yet so far from getting this fixed
[07:35] <Dwayna> Mi ubicación: Segovia, España
[07:35] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: the console resolution does not change?
[07:36] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: nope no matter what i do or change it never does
[07:36] <rooks> can i mount my ecryptfs dir using my login pass on i.e. fresh install that has /home on other partition, and if no, what on earth is unwrap-passphrase for?
[07:36] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: kde has a new app to play with grub, not sure if you want to go there
[07:36] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: i even restarted twice
[07:37] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: would i need to install the whole kde desktop to use it?
[07:38] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: no, but at least the dependencies, i ran a gnome hybrid for along time, without the overhead of a full install
[07:38] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: Thanks, ill look into that. With luck it'l work.
[07:38] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: thanks for your time. :)
[07:38] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: google kde grub gui
[07:39] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: ok
[07:39] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: Seems there is also one for gnome.
[07:40] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: there you go
[07:40] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: the kde one just came out, the one i installed anyway
[07:41] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: oh.
[07:41] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: dont use a gui for grub1
[07:41] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: i waste so much cpu... running a little webserver and a minecraft classic server on a phenom 2 X6 1100T
[07:41] <paulus68> on my server I have 2 nics eth0 with ip 172.16.80.103 and eth1 with 192.168.61.100 I have several workstations that can succesfully ping eth1. How do I make eht1 communicate with external network through eth0?
[07:42] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: Wait how do i know if i have grub1 or 2?
[07:42] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: you used 'update-grub' that is grub2
[07:43] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: it also works if i type grub2
[07:43] <wingless_> bjweihe`, dpkg -l | grep grub
[07:43] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: grub2 is /etc/default/grub <-- changes made there and then updating grub
[07:43] <wingless_> the grub you have installed will show up with an ii next to it.
[07:44] <bjweihe`> yup thats were im making the changes
[07:45] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: yea i have 2 it said Version 2
[07:46] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: why not strip the graphics from your system, use ssh to get into it?
[07:46] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: i like to use the graphics for a few things. I do have ssh setup tho
[07:47] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: but i prefer to be on the computer itself since its only a foot away from me.
[07:47] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: with a 21.5 inch screen...
[07:48] <saju_m> getting error: add bridge failed: Package not installed    while running # brctl addbr br0
[07:48] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: cool, i had a HTC built for cheap, runns xbmc and not much else,
[07:49] <saju_m> i am using ubuntu 11.04, Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-13-server #53-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 28 19:52:56 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:49] <saju_m> i can not add bridge using command # brctl addbr br0,,   getting error :  add bridge failed: Package not installed
[07:50] <bjweihe`> almoxarife:  i see. Yea i just want to use it to render some things in blender sometimes and possibly play a tiny game like once a month. But thats kinda impossible without a desktop. And i like my 1920x1080 terminal
[07:50] <Gentoo64> saju_m: have you got bridge-utils installed?
[07:50] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: my gpu seems hot tho all the time and i think that has to do with it not having the correct driver.
[07:51] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: what gpu?
[07:51] <saju_m> yes
[07:51] <nbros652> Anyone here... I'm trying to find a way to inhibit the screensaver for the duration of a bash script. Anyone know how to do this?
[07:51] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: ATI HD 4550
[07:51] <Gentoo64> saju_m: ok i only googled it..
[07:51] <m8a> How connect my phone to xubuntu 11.10 to use internet via bluetooth
[07:51] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: using the 'fgrlx'??? driver? dont know iif i spelled it correctly
[07:52] <bjweihe`> almoxarife:  yes i think you spelled it right... yes thats what its using
[07:52] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: dont know of another then, thats the card makers aint it?
[07:53] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: it says its for my type of card
[07:53] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: ubuntu Hardware drivers reccomends it
[07:53] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: is the fan full of gunk?
[07:54] <wrektjet> hello i have a major problem i upgraded to 10.10 and my resolution is totally out of whack. everything is huge and almost nothing fits on the screen. luckily i could get into xchat. i tried to go into monitors and adjust the resolution but the only 3 options were still huge. (720x48) not to mention it doesnt detect my asus monitor like it used to or my GPU can anyone help?
[07:54] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: no it has no fan.
[07:54] <slacker-> Hi guys, how do I go about getting X to work with i3 onchip video?
[07:54] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: its a low profile gpu
[07:54] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: add a fan to the case
[07:54] <Gentoo64> saju_m: try zgrep CONFIG_BRIDGE /proc/config.gz
[07:54] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: the case has plenty of fans... and the cpu is liquid cooled
[07:55] <Gentoo64> saju_m: not sure if ubuntu has the proc option enabled
[07:55] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: the gpu stutters when trying any games without that driver
[07:55] <almoxarife> bjweihe`: liquid? really? , you are over my head now
[07:56] <llutz_> saju_m: grep CONFIG_BRIDGE /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[07:56] <bjweihe`> almoxarife: lol
[07:56] <m8a> How connect my phone to xubuntu 11.10 to use internet via bluetooth
[07:56] <almoxarife> m8a: want to share what the phone type is?
[07:56] <saju_m> http://dpaste.com/685152/
[07:57] <m8a> N73
[07:58] <almoxarife> m8a: does the system see the phone?
[07:58] <Gentoo64> saju_m: do you see bridge in lsmod?
[07:58] <Gentoo64> saju_m: i cant really help much :s
[07:59] <m8a> Yes but can't connect
[07:59] <m8a> Whr is nw manager
[08:00] <almoxarife> m8a: you mean it will not connect via bluetooth?
[08:00] <m8a> Yes
[08:00] <paulus68> on my server I have 2 nics eth0 with ip 172.16.80.103 and eth1 with 192.168.61.100 I have several workstations that can succesfully ping eth1. How do I make eht1 communicate with external network through eth0?
[08:02] <wifilpc> bonjour
[08:04] <paulus68> !fr |wifilpc
[08:05] <nbros652> Anyone here... I'm trying to find a way to inhibit the screensaver for the duration of a bash script. Anyone know how to do this?
[08:05] <wrektjet> use caffeine
[08:05] <wrektjet> maybe not
[08:06] <CharminTheMoose> I can't ping anything but localhost on an ubuntu netinstall running inside qemu. Any tips on where I should start looking to find the cause?
[08:06] <somsip> nbros652: someone posted that yesterday...this channel is logged somewhere. maybe worth checking that?
[08:07] <nbros652> somsip: thanks
[08:07] <llutz_> nbros http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/01/09
[08:08] <almoxarife> m8a: got the data cable?
[08:09] <xgt001> hello, i want to use amd hardware decoding for video playback, there are two versions, 0.7.8 supplied by ubuntu and 0.8.1 supplied by splitted desktops, but the latter upon install, doesnt yeild proper output in vainfo, any ideas?
[08:10] <somsip> nbros652: NastyNaz omg for all those that wanted to turn screensaver off in tty: sudo setterm -blank 0
[08:10] <heartinfei> hello
[08:10] <heartinfei> hi
[08:11] <heartinfei> anyone
[08:11] <nbros652> somsip: that would work except, if the script is killed, I want the screensaver to work again.
[08:11] <somsip> !anyone | heartinfei
[08:11] <somsip> nbros652: ah - no idea then. Just remembered that from yesterday, but on seeing it I wondered how useful it might be
[08:11] <nbros652> somsip: I think caffeine might do the trick if I can't get dbus-send working.
[08:14] <bullgard6> What is the function of the file  /etc/gnome/defaults.list?
[08:14] <dellin> i have  setup a basic kvm on ubuntu server 10.04  but i don't know much of networking what is best way to configure network for gues (windows xp and another linux )
[08:14] <ponrajuganesh> could any One how to use an ftp command ? I need to send a file to another server? what are all the steps to be done
[08:15] <llutz_> ponrajuganesh: ftp user@host, cd path/on/server, put file  (man ftp)
[08:16] <XxX> How to connect my phone to xubuntu 11.10 to use internet via bluetooth
[08:16] <wrektjet> looking for help in getting a radeonhd6750 card recognized in 10.10. the monitor is plugged into the card but the display is out of whack and the card isnt recognized via lshw
[08:17] <bullgard6> dellin: Your English is difficult to understand. Say it in other words please.
[08:17] <llutz_> bullgard6:  as "head -1 /etc/gnome/defaults.list  " tells you, default applications to open given mime-types in gnome
[08:18] <dellin> yes
[08:18] <Ben64> Is there any way to lower my Nvidia's speed with dual monitors going?
[08:18] <dellin> i am not native english speaker
[08:19] <dellin> sorry i will try again
[08:20] <dellin> i have setup a ubuntu linux and i have installed 1 guest os on that but i don't know much of kvm networking
[08:20] <dellin> so i want help on kvm networking
[08:22] <ponrajuganesh> what are all the conf we need to do for using it? llutz_
[08:22] <doritoDan> Do you guys know if there's a Mint channel somewhere on Freenode?
[08:23] <doritoDan> Sorry, wrong chan.
[08:23] <llutz_> ponrajuganesh: nothing, ftp should be installed by default
[08:23] <ponrajuganesh> ya ok,, the recieving system should it have any conf
[08:24] <llutz_> ponrajuganesh: sure, it needs a running ftp-server
[08:24] <theadmin> doritoDan: There's not, their channel is on SpotChat, is #linuxmint-help
[08:24] <paulus68> on my server I have 2 nics eth0 with ip 172.16.80.103 and eth1 with 192.168.61.100 I have several workstations that can succesfully ping eth1. How do I make eht1 communicate with external network through eth0?
[08:24] <doritoDan> theadmin: I know, but I'd rather stay on freenode if possible.
[08:25] <theadmin> doritoDan: Sorry, there ain't. What do you need help with? I used Mint for quite the while. PM me, I might figure it out.
[08:26] <doritoDan> It's not a specific problem. I just fell in love with it on first sight due to it being the the first professional-looking distro I've seen to date, but after 10 minutes of use it had two big crashes and I've also noticed quite a lot of glitches
[08:26] <doritoDan> which to me is weird since I downloaded the latest stable/normal/vanilla release.
[08:26] <theadmin> doritoDan: err, I said pm, not here
[08:26] <doritoDan> Yeah sorry. I'm just saying, no need for help.
[08:26] <doritoDan> Thanks though.
[08:28] <CharminTheMoose> I can't ping anything but localhost and gateway on an ubuntu netinstall running inside qemu. Any tips on where I should start looking to find the cause?
[08:28] <llutz_> CharminTheMoose: sudo route add default gw <your-gw-ip>
[08:29] <random1> Just added a .bash_alias profile and put some aliases in it. restarted terminal but aliases aren't persisted. I even added them to the bashrc file. Anyone know why this is happening
[08:30] <CharminTheMoose> llutz, that's already been done. :/
[08:30] <CharminTheMoose> route shows: Destination: Default Gateway: 10.0.2.2
[08:30] <llutz_> CharminTheMoose: and your gw knows its a gw? it configured for ip-forwarding etc.?
[08:30] <TransistOp> the left bar doestn't want to hide, I can't stand ubuntu, There is huge icon is dashboard, can't stand this, I installed gnomeshell and read pages on how to revert to gnome ui, ended up at "(gnome-shell:29200): Clutter-CRITICAL"  Should I install another version or antoher OS
[08:31] <TransistOp> What a pieice of shit this UI is.
[08:31] <slacker-> ok, so I can run lightdm-session which gives me a working desktop but /etc/init.d/lightdm start doesn't work.
[08:31] <CharminTheMoose> llutz, I have no idea. But I can get other distros auto connected to the 'net, so I doubt it's a problem with qemu.
[08:32] <llutz_> CharminTheMoose: does "ping 8.8.8.8" work?
[08:32] <xgt001> slacker-, just curious, does service lightdm start work?
[08:32] <CharminTheMoose> llutz, no, it doesn't. :/
[08:33] <CharminTheMoose> all packets are lost
[08:33] <llutz_> CharminTheMoose: then check you gateway. if you can ping the gw from qemu, networking basically works
[08:33] <slacker-> xgt001: the startup script runs both times and X is trying to start, which causes the screen to flicker but it fails
[08:33] <llutz_> your*
[08:34] <slacker-> xgt001: I found this in /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log: [+0.02s] CRITICAL: Settings schema 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background' is not installed
[08:34] <CharminTheMoose> llutz, yeah, that's my point. I can ping the gateway that qemu virtualises.. but I can't get past the virtual gateway and onto the 'net.
[08:35] <llutz_> CharminTheMoose: oh its not a real gateway? no idea then, i don't really know how qemu does stuff
[08:35] <slacker-> xgt001: also this: [+0.02s] DEBUG: Connected version=1.0.6 default-session=mythbuntu hide-users=false has-guest-account=false
[08:36] <slacker-> xgt001: I installed the mythbuntu-desktop package. maybe I should ask there
[08:36] <CharminTheMoose> Cheers anyway llutz :)
[08:36] <jolaren> Something is slowing down my htpc at times.. it lags sometimes when I play hd and alot of youtube
[08:36] <mash_> help am confused. want to start cgi in ubuntu. perl or python? am not sure which to use
[08:36] <paulus68> llutz_: I have a simular problemI can ping my eht1 card however I am not able to connect to eth0 in order to go on the internet? any thoughts
[08:36] <xgt001> slacker-, unfortunately i dont have much ideas about this :( sorry :(
[08:37] <slacker-> xgt001: I might try #mythtv-users instead
[08:37] <slacker-> bye
[08:37] <llutz_> paulus68: different subnets? i guess you'll need to enable ip-forwarding/masquerading
[08:38] <paulus68> llutz_: indead but still no luck
[08:38] <jolaren> Can anyone help me troubleshoot my HTPC/Server? It lags a bit!
[08:38] <paulus68> llutz_: I used this example
[08:38] <bullgard6> llutz_: What is the function of the switch '-1'? I read 'man head' and did not find it?
[08:39] <paulus68> llutz_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[08:39] <llutz_> bullgard6: same as head -n 1
[08:39] <mash_>  want to start cgi in ubuntu. perl or python? am not sure which to use. any suggestions?
[08:40] <paulus68> llutz_: the ubuntu gateway method
[08:40] <wingless_> mash_, ask yourself what you want to accomplish with CGI.  Then the answer of which language is better suited to the task should be clearer.  FWIW to make broad generalizations, python is more general-purpose, and perl is more for system administration.
[08:40] <wingless_> there are other great languages out there, too, like ruby...in the end they're probably pretty much all the same if all you want to learn is how to do cgi stuff
[08:41] <Kurdistan> if I am using ubuntu 11.10 is it possible to install kernel from 12.10 from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ like 3.2*? hi. is this the place to find ubuntu specific patches for kernel? http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/
[08:41] <llutz_> paulus68: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward          gives "1" back?
[08:42] <mash_> wingless_: so which would u recommend?
[08:42] <theadmin> mash_: Whichever you prefer. Perl is more popular for the purpose.
[08:43] <paulus68> llutz_: no it states no such file or directory
[08:43] <wingless_> mash_, pick whatever one you think is coolest and learn it.  then learn another.  you can't go wrong.
[08:43] <wingless_> they're all fine languages.
[08:44] <mash_> thanks, will try
[08:44] <wingless_> personally i like ruby because it's intuitive and easy to read
[08:44] <llutz_> paulus68: echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[08:44] <wingless_> perl is harder to read and less intuitive, but more popular because it's been around longer
[08:45] <ts2> mash_: a CGI script can be *anything*, Perl, Python, Bash, a compiled executible, whatever. use whichever you are most familiar with
[08:46] <paulus68> llutz_: returns 1
[08:47] <llutz_> paulus68: check your iptables rules, do they look like the example in the howto with YOUR ip-range? (sudo iptables -vL)
[08:48] <titanes> ubuntu innstall is second time crashing trying to install on USB flash
[08:48] <titanes> what I do?
[08:48] <wingless_> you may want to check the installation media to make sure the md5 hashes are right
[08:48] <wingless_> also, are you sure you're installing for the right hardware?
[08:49] <titanes> it installs everything but crashes during hardware config.
[08:49] <bullgard6> llutz_:  Understood. Thank you. --  I have a supplementary question: The first line of the file /etc/gnome/defaults.list reads: "[Default Applications]." What is meant by this term? I know that »applications« is an abbreviation for »application program«. I know that the adjective »default« designates a setting tat the user has not changed after starting the computer.  Still I cannot think...
[08:49] <bullgard6> ...what the word combination »default applications« means here. Please elaborate.
[08:50] <titanes> wingless_: how to check? oddly I am using the very same LiveUSB for some days without an incidend already.
[08:50] <M8a> In xubuntu, while connecting mobile that shown 'DUN connection on device will now be available in network manager'. But that not in nm-applet
[08:50] <paulus68> llutz_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799108/
[08:51] <wingless_> md5 hashes for the files in your liveusb should have been included...they do it for cds, so i can't imagine why they wouldn't for the usb version
[08:51] <titanes> how to check?
[08:51] <titanes> I am using the LiveUSB
[08:51] <llutz_> bullgard6: to me it reads "standard programs (applications) to be used to open listed mime-types" default~standard
[08:51] <wingless_> if it's there, it should be a file like md5_hashes in the topmost directory of the usb.
[08:53] <titanes> wingless_: if by top most directory do you mean root it isn't there
[08:54] <llutz_> paulus68: on client "sudo route add default gw 192.168.60.100" and try to access internet then
[08:54] <llutz_> paulus68: ..61.100   sry typo
[08:55] <titanes> cd I see it's in /media/cdrom
[08:55] <titanes> so what to do next?
[08:55] <titanes> this one ? --> md5sum.txt
[08:55] <wingless_> titanes, that should be it
[08:55] <gaby> hello - any body can help me - how to use - netsend between ubuntu and windows please .
[08:55] <theadmin> gaby: netsend is a Windows thing, I don't think Ubuntu even has that
[08:56] <bullgard6> llutz_:
[08:56] <M8a> In xubuntu, while connecting mobile that shown 'DUN connection on device will now be available in network manager'. But that not in nm-applet
[08:56] <kbroulik> hi. why does X always start with 1024x768 when there is a second monitor attached (external monitor on the notebook)? That primitive plymouth splash screen manages it to get the resolution correct right away, so why doesnt X?
[08:56] <iceroot> gaby: for sending text-messages?
[08:56] <gaby> netsend is working  with ubuntu as well - by Samba - theadmin .. just i dont know howto use it
[08:56] <theadmin> gaby: However, "smbclient" has a -M option which is similar to net send
[08:56] <bullgard6> llutz_: Tthank you very much for your interpretation and help.
[08:56] <gaby> yes iceroot
[08:56] <iceroot> gaby: there is a samba option which is not working anymore on windows
[08:57] <paulus68> llutz_: I can ping from client 8.8.8.8 however can't connect to the net through firefox
[08:57] <iWInULose> so today i went to my google chrome property and erase the command line by mistake and now i cant access the internet can someone tell me what code should be in there?
[08:57] <wingless_> titanes, you can compute the md5 hash for each file foo by running "openssl dgst -md5 foo"
[08:57] <theadmin> gaby: Basically: smbclient -M windowshost <<< "MESSAGE"
[08:57] <gaby> please iceroot - guide me what to do exactly
[08:57] <llutz_> paulus68: set "nameserver 8.8.8.8" in /etc/resolv.conf on client  and try again
[08:57] <iceroot> gaby: smbclient -M (but its not working anymore on windows higher then nt or 2000 cant rember)
[08:57] <M8a> In xubuntu, while connecting mobile that shown 'DUN connection on device will now be available in network manager'. But that not in nm-applet
[08:57] <paulus68> llutz_: on the client or the server?
[08:58] <llutz_> paulus68: client
[08:58] <gaby> how can i install it iceroot ?
[08:58] <iWInULose> so today i went to my google chrome property and erase the command line by mistake and now i cant access the internet can someone tell me what code should be in there?
[08:58] <M8a> In xubuntu, while connecting mobile that shown 'DUN connection on device will now be available in network manager'. But that not in nm-applet
[08:58] <iceroot> gaby: you read the part "is no longer working"?
[08:58] <wingless_> run it for each of the files listed and confirm that the hashes all add up.  if they don't, then the files that don't match might be corrupted, and you should consider re-downloading a copy of the image
[08:58] <paulus68> .conf
[08:58] <AdvoWork> how can i find out if a certain laptop will work with ubuntu?
[08:58] <gaby> ok - so  what is working iceroot ?
[08:59] <iWInULose> so today i went to my google chrome property and erase the command line by mistake and now i cant access the internet can someone tell me what code should be in there?
[08:59] <iceroot> gaby: i dont know a method working with modern windows versions
[08:59] <iceroot> !hardware | AdvoWork
[08:59] <theadmin> iWInULose: What is "google chrome property" anyway? Where'd you find that?
[08:59] <iWInULose> when you right click on your web browser you will see it
[08:59] <iceroot> AdvoWork: but if a laptop is not listed there that does not mean that the laptop will not work
[09:00] <theadmin> iWInULose: Ah, the launcher?
[09:00] <iWInULose> yea
[09:00] <theadmin> iWInULose: If so, well, just type "google-chrome" in the command.
[09:00] <paulus68> llutz_: thanks a million this is working
[09:00] <AdvoWork> iceroot, considering buying a brand new laptop for someone: Dell Inspiron 15 BTS  but don't want to buy it if Ubuntu won't work on it
[09:00] <M8a> In xubuntu, while connecting mobile that shown 'DUN connection on device will now be available in network manager'. But that not in nm-applet
[09:01] <iWInULose> that wont work because i remember it having %U at the end
[09:01] <iceroot> AdvoWork: dell is also selling laptops with ubuntu on there site, maybe there is a hint
[09:01] <theadmin> iWInULose: It will work. Well, if you want you CAN use "google-chrome %u" but that doesn't really make sense with a plain launcher
[09:01] <llutz_> AdvoWork: check what wifi-chipset it has and if it uses dual-graphics (optimus). those are the most important things
[09:01] <theadmin> iWInULose: %u at the end allows you to drag stuff onto the launcher to have it open that stuff
[09:02] <titanes> it appears that I don't have enough RAM. How to clear cache?
[09:02] <M8a> Plz help me... In xubuntu, while connecting mobile that shown 'DUN connection on device will now be available in network manager'. But that not in nm-applet
[09:02] <VictorCL> everytime I download something with firefox or chome and try to open it I get an error " Could not find "/home/tresipunt/Baixades/xxx.zip .The location is not a folder."
[09:02] <iWInULose> i get this "Failed to execute child process "/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome" (No such file or directory)"
[09:03] <iceroot> titanes: why do you think you dont have enough ram?
[09:03] <iceroot> titanes: please paste the output of "free -m"
[09:03] <iceroot> !paste | titanes
[09:03] <Jordan_U> AdvoWork: If you're able to try one at a store, just bring a LiveCD with you.
[09:03] <theadmin> iWInULose: Uh... huh. I suppose your Chrome installation is in someway damaged because that path appears to be correct.
[09:03] <titanes> Mem:         total  8003     used  7706     free   296
[09:03] <iceroot> titanes: to pastebin
[09:04] <iceroot> titanes: and all lines please
[09:04] <iceroot> titanes: also read this http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[09:04] <Jordan_U> VictorCL: http://askubuntu.com/questions/34260/why-do-i-get-a-the-location-is-not-a-folder-error-when-trying-to-open-files-us
[09:04] <redbox> victor .try to change the download location folder to onother folder
[09:05] <iWInULose> so the only browser i have dont work anymore, ANyway i can access the internet to download firefox? or maybe you can send me a file?
[09:05] <iceroot> iWInULose: sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:05] <VictorCL> ok thankz
[09:05] <iceroot> !repos | iWInULose
[09:05] <theadmin> iWInULose: Open a terminal and type this: wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb
[09:06] <titanes> found it :D --- > echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[09:06] <theadmin> iWInULose: Then just install it.
[09:06] <iceroot> titanes: what are you doing?
[09:06] <iceroot> titanes: read the link i gave you instead of doing such strange things
[09:06] <iceroot> titanes: i bet you have enough free ram on your system
[09:06] <iceroot> titanes: dont disable caching, its a stupid idea
[09:07] <zetheroo> in 11.10 where do you set the default apps ... like browsers etc ... ?
[09:07] <titanes> I did already, gonna try the install again
[09:07] <iWInULose> ok
[09:08] <iceroot> titanes: what?
[09:08] <iceroot> titanes: what are you talking about?
[09:09] <titanes> iceroot: ubunutu install failed twice
[09:10] <iceroot> titanes: and what does that have to do with the caching?
[09:10] <iceroot> titanes: and what does "failed" exactly means
[09:10] <danny_> hello was wonderding if any one knew some good power managment kinda like the asus power4gear hybrid that asus computers come with
[09:11] <titanes> iceroot: dunno, I am out of ideas.
[09:12] <AdvoWork> llutz, what wifi chipset am i looking for though?
[09:12] <titanes> it fails during hardware configuration, installs everything and all but just during some crazy script fails.
[09:13] <squarrel> hi. how do i check if the firewall is on and working?
[09:13] <titanes> still be bootable though?
[09:13] <iceroot> titanes: can you please be more specific? what error-messages? which ubuntu version and so on
[09:13] <titanes> may be it's a bug??
[09:13] <Anomie21> Got a 32GB USB that isn't being recognised in Win/Ubuntu/MacOSX - However when I type in 'lsusb' it is showing up...
[09:13] <iceroot> squarrel: ufw status
[09:13] <titanes> 11.10, i'll let u know after this install
[09:14] <llutz_> AdvoWork:for instance: Broadcom is likely to cause more trouble than intel/atheros. best to check google for exact chipset name/version + linux/ubuntu
[09:14] <squarrel> iceroot: i can't make ufw to start up after booting.
[09:15] <squarrel> because it needs root
[09:15] <kayhany> test
[09:17] <Jordan_U> titanes: For your previous questions, I would go with ext4. If you're worried about the journal wearing out the drive (I wouldn't, wear leveling should negate the small writes required for journaling) you can disable journaling with ext4. Ubuntu uses UUIDs almost everywhere, which will be the same no matter how the drive is connected or what other drives exist. The minimum RAM requirement for the LiveCD installer is 1 GiB. You can get away with a lot ...
[09:18] <Jordan_U> ... less than that using the Alternate installer.
[09:18] <iceroot> !sudo | squarrel
[09:18] <iceroot> Jordan_U: 1gb minimum for the live-cd?
[09:18] <squarrel> i know root, but i cannot get ufw to start up on boot
[09:18] <Jordan_U> iceroot: For installing, IIRC.
[09:18] <Anomie21> Anyone? It's showing up in lsusb but not fdisk -l ?
[09:18] <iceroot> Jordan_U: imo the installer has a minimum of 256mb and the laternate-installer of 128mb
[09:19] <iceroot> Jordan_U: we had a discussion about that in the last days for the lubuntu-disc
[09:19] <iceroot> Jordan_U: and there it was 256mb GUI installier, 128MB alternate-installer
[09:19] <iceroot> Anomie21: errors on "dmesg"?
[09:20] <titanes> what does 'configuring hardware' stage do during install? is it absolutely needed?
[09:21] <Jordan_U> iceroot: Is that for "Ubuntu" or for Lubuntu?
[09:21] <iceroot> titanes: can you switch to a shell already? (ctrl + alt + f1)
[09:21] <iceroot> Jordan_U: ubuntu
[09:21] <Anomie21> iceroot: http://pastebin.com/1zfhUU0t
[09:21] <titanes> iceroot: I got dual monitor
[09:21] <iceroot> Jordan_U: because we are using the same frontend just installing other packages
[09:22] <titanes> iceroot: what to do in shell?
[09:23] <Jordan_U> iceroot: I seem to remember having problems installing with the LiveCD in a kvm virtual machine with 256 MiB of RAM, but I just realized that I always start the full desktop session then click the installer, so the installer alone may be able to make it with that. Thanks.
[09:23] <iceroot> Jordan_U: yes, sorry, of course only the installer without the desktop
[09:23] <Anomie21> iceroot: Also not being recognised by gparted
[09:23] <iceroot> titanes: was the process crashed? or just taking longer?
[09:23] <titanes> is not crashing yet
[09:24] <iceroot> Anomie21: please have a look at /etc/fstab if the drive is already listed there
[09:24] <Jordan_U> titanes: It sounds like as long as you choose "Install Ubuntu" (rather than selecting the installer from the full desktop session) you should be able to install with only 256 MiB of RAM from the standard Desktop CD.
[09:25] <Anomie21> iceroot: My /etc/fstab - http://pastebin.com/Rnmn1FBG - not really sure what I'm looking at?
[09:26] <iceroot> Anomie21: ok looking fine
[09:27] <iceroot> Anomie21: i just found some results where a possible error can be a missconfigured fstab
[09:27] <iceroot> Anomie21: but you said the device is not working on ubuntu, windows and osx so i dont thing its an ubuntu-issue
[09:27] <Anomie21> iceroot: Yeah it's not working on anything
[09:27] <Anomie21> isnt even recognised by MACOSXs Disk Utility
[09:28] <ponrajuganesh> where the scp bin file will be present in linux?
[09:28] <overclucker> ponrajuganesh: whereis scp
[09:29] <llutz_> ponrajuganesh: /usr/bin/scp most likely
[09:29] <overclucker> ponrajuganesh: pardon, which scp; is what you're looking for
[09:29] <ponrajuganesh> ya ya got it :) llutzz_
[09:29] <danny_> does anyone know any good ubuntu power aps that will save more battery ubuntu seems to be a hog not trying to troll i love ubuntu but battery life kinda stinks
[09:30] <Anomie21> It shows up in Disk Utility in Ubuntu as a Generic USB Mass Storage on /dev/sdc but it cant detect anything else
[09:32] <eshlox> hi, i have problem with dvd, when i put cd/dvd then drive doesnt tries read this, ejec command works, http://pastebin.com/8pvxBAFV
[09:32] <eshlox> any ideas?
[09:32] <AdvoWork> i tell you what, its bloody hard finding a UK based company that sell laptops that Ubuntu will work on, for a < £300 budget
[09:33] <dannel> oO
[09:33] <slacker-> back again
[09:34] <DJones> AdvoWork: I know these are over the £300 budget, but I bought a HP and an ASUS laptop about 6 months ago from Argos, I think one was £350, the other £430, both have been fine with Ubuntu
[09:34] <dannel> ubuntu has mostly worked on any laptop i've thrown it at, maybe sometimes 3d acceleration or bluetooth didn't work though
[09:34] <Anomie21> iceroot: I have the option to format in Disk Utility but getting this error when I try (Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdc: No medium found)
[09:34] <AdvoWork> DJones, whats the model of the £350 one?
[09:34] <DJones> AdvoWork: Do you mind a pm?
[09:35] <slacker-> need some help getting lightdm working. The greeter crashes with the following log: [+0.02s] DEBUG: Connected version=1.0.6 default-session=mythbuntu hide-users=false has-guest-account=false
[09:35] <slacker-> [+0.02s] CRITICAL: Settings schema 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background' is not installed
[09:35] <titanes> CRASH!! "Configuring Hardware... 0%"
[09:35] <danny_> does anyone know any good ubuntu power aps that will save more battery ubuntu seems to be a hog not trying to troll i love ubuntu but battery life kinda stinks
[09:36] <DJones> AdvoWork: Can't remember which model it was now, I can check when I get home from work for you tonight
[09:37] <AdvoWork> DJones, no worries about a pm
[09:37] <titanes> is it 'Connfiguring Hardware' a crucial step during install?? It looks everything else is in place on the Flah Drive
[09:39] <wingless_> titanes, if you're trying to install to the hard disk from the usb stick, you might consider trying to do it from a cd instead just to see if that works...
[09:42] <AdvoWork> "Hi there. I need a new laptop, but I must be able to put Ubuntu on it. If i buy one, where I find Ubuntu will not work, am I able to return it? Thanks"......raghava_reddy_varala - You can install Ubuntu OS on the laptop yourself and it would definitely work on it......"how do you know though? I've not even specified a model"......raghava_reddy_varala - The Dell laptops are built in such a way that, all the latest operating system would work on
[09:42] <AdvoWork> them
[09:45] <MarcoPau> hi, I have a camera with compact flash I connect to the computer with its usb cable, but the compact flash is always being mounted read only. do you know how to write on the memory?
[09:45] <RajDev_King> Could anyone please help me with Cinnamon installation?
[09:46] <RajDev_King> Why they always keeps telling that the dependency is not satisfiable?
[09:46] <Anomie21> Posted a thread on the Ubuntu forums to see if anyone there could help. If anyone has any insight or anymore commands I should post the output too there to help people get a better idea of the problem it would be appreciated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11600309#post11600309
[09:46] <dancek> AdvoWork, please don't give guarantees for Ubuntu working on any laptop, that's just not guaranteed (Dell perhaps, i dunno)
[09:47] <RajDev_King> Hello? Any helper over there?
[09:47] <RajDev_King> How to cleanup temporary folders in Ubuntu? I mean all those unimportant junks!
[09:50] <auronandace> RajDev_King: doesn't /tmp get emptied every reboot?
[09:53] <overclucker> auronandace: if it's tmpfs, then yes.
[09:54] <overclucker> auronandace: by default /tmp is tmpfs in ubuntu
[09:56] <auronandace> overclucker: good to know, i hope he was referring to /tmp and not some other cache folder of some sort
[10:16] <DarkStar1> does anyone know if a Radeon 6450 can run two screens?
[10:18] <m4k_> I'm creating a startup disk from ubuntu machine. Can I installed any application into it after booting it and that application should be available once I install from the startup disk. is it posible?
[10:18] <hz> hi guys
[10:19] <hz> in ps output i foundthis line
[10:19] <DJones> m4k_: I'm not sure if you can do that with a cd/dvd install, but you can if you use the live usb with persistence
[10:19] <hz> root      1465  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    Jan07   0:00 [3] <defunct>
[10:19] <hz> what is [3] ??
[10:19] <DJones> !usb | m4k_
[10:21] <helioz> hey, I have syslinux on a labelled usb flash drive, what is the config of append root= ?
[10:21] <helioz> I wanted a portable OS
[10:23] <helioz> guys, any ideas, or links?
[10:24] <mmoebius> helioz: for root, you have to use what the kernel thinks your usb drive is
[10:25] <helioz> and that is? is it the label? sdb1 did not work
[10:25] <mmoebius> helioz: Dependant on that, try e.g. /dev/sda1 ... if your usb device has partitions.
[10:25] <mmoebius> helioz: pastebin the output 'fdisk -l ' and 'blkid' somewhere; USB stick attached
[10:25] <helioz> okay
[10:27] <helioz> that gives me an idea, I can use the uuid, can't I?
[10:27] <mmoebius> helioz: Usually, if the machine is booting froim the USB and has no internal drive, then it's sda ... plus the partituion number, e.g. sda1. If you have internal drives that are enumerated *before* the USB (heaven may know which drivers do or do not do that, I don't) , then the USB-Stick is "shifted" to sdb, sdc etc.
[10:27] <mmoebius> UUID is the next point. That is what you need blkid fopr :-)
[10:27] <dr_willis> or the label  helioz
[10:27] <mmoebius> If you have an initrd, that is.
[10:27] <kingsize> hi
[10:28] <kingsize> anyone pls helP
[10:28] <mmoebius> dr_willis: How do you do a root mount with label ?
[10:28] <mmoebius> !ask | kinksize
[10:28] <dr_willis> not sure for syslinux.
[10:28] <kingsize> i have problem cannot start totem movie player....error msg
[10:28] <kingsize> (totem:3674): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: The OpenGL version could not be determined
[10:28] <kingsize> Segmentation fault
[10:28] <dr_willis> same syntax as uuid i think
[10:29] <helioz> dr_willis: will uuid work, i got a uuid from blkid
[10:29] <mmoebius> dr_willis: like ... root=LABEL=MySweetDrive ?
[10:29] <helioz> mmobieus:That did not work
[10:29] <helioz> I tried
[10:29] <mmoebius> helioz: usually, root=UUID=the-uuid-you-got-from-blkid
[10:30] <NimeshNeema> i am facing issue regarding display of characters of certain indian languages in chrome  as well as chromium on Ubuntu 11.10 . I am developing a language learning game and needs to know the cause of this issue. Please help
[10:30] <dr_willis> mmoebius:  i think so. but not trued it in ages
[10:30] <mmoebius> helioz: Whaere are your pastebins ?
[10:30] <helioz> mmobieus:Your syntax is suggested by arch
[10:30] <kingsize> anyone...pls help with the above problem..tq
[10:31] <mmoebius> helioz: And worrks for me booting caspter initrds from install disks :-)
[10:31] <helioz> I'll try uuid and tell you the result
[10:31] <helioz> bye for now, thank you
[10:31] <m4k_> DJones: I created persistence startup disk used 2 gb pendrive. So now I can install application into it and then use this pendrive to install in other machine along with newly installed applications, I'm I right ?
[10:32] <mmoebius> NimeshNeema: That is  deep level  stuff. You need to identify the problem much closer by yourself, then contact the appropriate mailinglist
[10:33] <mmoebius> NimeshNeema: Do you have fonts that are installed and known to support the characters you want ?
[10:33] <horser> hey, i've just install ubuntu server 10.04, with the lamp packages, but i can't connect to the mysql database
[10:33] <kingsize> I ve problem that my totem movie player cannot be start....The error msg:
[10:33] <horser> everytime i try mysql -u root -p
[10:33] <kingsize> kingsize@Gylan-Dell:~$ totem
[10:33] <kingsize> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
[10:33] <kingsize> (totem:3674): Clutter-CRITICAL **: Unable to initialize Clutter: The OpenGL version could not be determined
[10:33] <kingsize> Segmentation fault
[10:33] <FloodBot1> kingsize: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:33] <mmoebius> kingsize: pastebin the output of "glxinfo", pls
[10:34] <horser> i get ERROR 2002: Can't connect ... through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.soc' (2)
[10:34] <OneSquared> Hello, I would like send mail. But it's not work :/ But yet, postfix is already installed.
[10:34] <mmoebius> horser: does "pgrep -lf sql" show you a ruinning instance of the database ?
[10:35] <mmoebius> Is sit set to start automatically e.g. in /etc/conf/... ?
[10:35] <horser> mmoebius - no, but when i try to start it with service mysql start, it says already running
[10:35] <mmoebius> horser: Is there a stale PID file ? , maybe the log(s) tell you something ? /var/log/daemon /var/log/messages etc ?
[10:36] <dr_willis> m4k_:  it does not install the added apps
[10:37] <kingsize> mmoebius: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799202/
[10:37] <horser> mmoebius - grepping mysql on /var/log/messeages gives  some output about 'profile_replace' operations
[10:38] <NimeshNeema> mmoebius: i don't have a lot of idea about how to go about installing fonts in ubuntu. and the application which i am working on works fine in Chrome for Windows and Mac (default install of chrome). In ubuntu some langauges works and some doesn't
[10:38] <horser> and a lot of different pid
[10:38] <horser> wow, just seen how many people mmoebius is currently helping, i'll keep pluking away with google for a while :-)
[10:38] <mmoebius> kingsize: Congrats. You have no opengl. Please take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see which driver is running.
[10:39] <mmoebius> horser: Just handing out tips while waiting for lunch. no more , no less  ;-)
[10:39] <horser> impressive all the same :-)
[10:40] <mmoebius> horser: You should have some very specivic mysqld messages e.g. in daemon.log after you tried startign it. look for those.
[10:40] <dr_willis> !fonts
[10:40] <kingsize> mmoebius: last 2 days still can running totem mp, i don't understand why this will happen?
[10:41] <horser> mmoebius, the only logs I'm seeying are 'main process (xxxx) terminated with status 1'
[10:41] <horser> followd by respawning
[10:41] <mmoebius> NimeshNeema: Then, It may be a font problem, most likely. If you don't mind the downloads, you can try installing all the packages that match "*font*" in the synaptive package management. Or look fopr special indian language support "*lang*" may be a suitable search patttern
[10:41] <mmoebius> horser: That is what you have to dig into. Why does mysqld not start up ?
[10:42] <kingsize> mmoebius: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799209/
[10:42] <txomon|nqas> hi, when setting up a dhcp server for netboot, is it posible to set it up just for netboot? I following the tutorial in help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[10:43] <Lolye> test
[10:44] <NimeshNeema> mmoebius: ok. is the language support (eg. for non-european and non supported languages) provided at the OS level or as per application level. because the same language characters which are not visible (shown as boxes) in chrome are available in other applications (like libre office)
[10:44] <as> asasasas
[10:44] <as> asaas
[10:44] <as> asas
[10:44] <mmoebius> kingsize: Usually, It's about the wrong driver beeing selected for the card. But in your case, the intel driver  seems quite right. Is it the (onboard) intel card you are usuing ?
[10:45] <kingsize> mmoebius: i am using NVidia display card as i know..
[10:45] <jameslordhz> hi all
[10:46] <akv> Hey, anyone know if Ubuntu will run on the Dell Latitude ST tablet?
[10:46] <mmoebius> NimeshNeema: Language support should be total at OS level by usinf UFT-8 . However, some applications ghave problems finding  the proper font files that actually have the characters requested.
[10:46] <mmoebius> kingsize: In that case, there is something dead wrong. There ist an intel driver loading happily and nicely. Is is a dual-graphics laptop ?
[10:47] <jameslordhz> how to get the list of packages i have installed in ubuntu, which is similar as rpm -qa on redhat
[10:47] <ndxtg> is there a ppa for Firefox 6 on Ubuntu 10.10 ? (I've just added ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable) and it upgraded to FF9 and FastDial does not work on FF9 yet)
[10:47] <mmoebius> kingsize: In that case: try switching graphics to nvidia in the bios
[10:47] <mmoebius> NimeshNeema: So, Language support is at OS level regarding the font files
[10:48] <geirha> jameslordhz: dpkg -l  or  aptitude search '~i'  (if you have aptitude installed)
[10:48] <mmoebius> txomon|nqas: Which part for "netboot" do you need ? Netboot is usually DHCP first, then TFTP
[10:48] <d3ngar> Hi there, I have a problem with Tomboy notes. Somehow not all notes were synced to my new device. Can I somehow delete the local notes and setting and then get them all fresh from the server?
[10:48] <dfsdf> naber ya
[10:49] <mmoebius> txomon|nqas: For TFTP only, there are stand-alone servers available. You just have to figure out how to tell your boot clients where to fetch the file from
[10:50] <dfsdf> :(
[10:50] <dfsdf> :'(
[10:50] <dfsdf> lll
[10:51] <Faralla> Hi. I would like to see the console-messages during boot/shutdown. How do I remove the spalsh screen? GRUB_TERMINAL= console?
[10:51] <kingsize> mmoebius: not dual graphics...but there are 2 drivers of NVidia in Additional Drivers program..do u mean I ve to switch to another one and see 1st.
[10:53] <mmoebius> kingsize: That is worth an attempt. But beware, it could mess graphics totally, this has happened for me :-( And if you have no working X-Server anymore, you are a little bit on y your own at the console level
[10:53] <me11> why "Timing cached reads" drops sometimes?
[10:54] <dr_willis> !text
[10:54] <mmoebius> kingsize: In case that goes wrong (just in case!) you will want to know that you have to deinstall all packages "dpkg -l *nvidia*" lists .
[10:58] <geirha> Faralla: remove quiet and splash
[11:09] <anev> when trying to mount a ntfs partition (/dev/sda1), it appears it has issues due to $logfile - i've tried using ntfsfix but this also fails - is there anything else i can try/
[11:10] <anev> i tried mounting with -o remove_hiberfile and -o force but to no avail
[11:11] <jameslordhz> find / -size +1G, will this command do harm to hard disk?
[11:13] <ts2> jameslordhz: not really, it's just a search tool
[11:15] <anev> back
[11:16] <iceroot> jameslordhz: you can always have a look at the manual if you are not sure what a command does "man commandname" in this case "man find". its a good idea to ask first instead of just executing commands
[11:17] <jameslordhz> ts2 it will do a lot a disk operation, and will do harm to disk:(
[11:17] <ts2> jameslordhz: generally no, unless the disk is already on the point of failing
[11:18] <iceroot> jameslordhz: it will create a high load on the io device but will not do anything evil
[11:18] <jameslordhz> if i write a shell , and find / -size +1k again and again, it will distroy that disk:)
[11:18] <iceroot> jameslordhz: no
[11:19] <iceroot> jameslordhz: but a very high load
[11:19] <jameslordhz> iceroot find . in a loop, high io 24x7x30, it will surely distroy that disk:)
[11:20] <iceroot> jameslordhz: no
[11:20] <iceroot> jameslordhz: and no please stop posting such stupid things
[11:20] <iceroot> now
[11:21] <Andy80> hi
[11:21] <zabomber> hi
[11:22] <Andy80> is there s quick way to use the F10 key in my application, without making the Skype menu appears?
[11:22] <Kartagis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/914149 <--- has anyone come across this?
[11:22] <Andy80> I try to explain better..... I need to use F10 to step-by-step debug with QtCreator, but when I press F10 the Skype menu is shown....
[11:23] <Kartagis> Andy80: close skype?
[11:23] <dr_willis> check skype settings
[11:23] <Andy80> closing skype doesn't help
[11:23] <Andy80> it opens the first menu of the first application available
[11:24] <Andy80> instead of opening the QtCreator one
[11:24] <Andy80> I close Sktype, it opens the Dropbox one.... I close Dropbox too it opens the Clementine one ecc....
[11:25] <Andy80> I don't want F10 to be used at all by Unity top bar
[11:28] <AFD> we have a remote server that uses NX for clients to connect and we have multiple users set in to a different group per office. I want to isntall adblock plus for chromium system-wide. Is this possible through sudo on the CLI or would I have to log in as each user and set it up that way?
[11:30] <Faralla> I cannot reboot/shutdown from unity/plymouth anymore. When I click the respective button nothing happens at all. Any chance to find out why?
[11:31] <theadmin> AFD: Uh, okay, set up for one user and then just copy .config/chromium to all other user's places?...
[11:31] <theadmin> AFD: I think it should work that way
[11:31] <AFD> theadmin: thanks - I'll try that
[11:32] <SVNDR> Is there a program like PAINT on Ubuntu?
[11:32] <anev> gimp is probably your best bet
[11:33] <SVNDR> anev: is there anything installed by default?
[11:35] <DJones> SVNDR: You could look at tuxpaint or gpaint, tuxpaint is aimed at young children
[11:35] <SVNDR> DJones:  ok thanks
[11:37] <who_me> uhm, there was also that mono paint proggie, a port of Paint.net, Pinta
[11:40] <Arizona_Bay> why cant i install openoffice
[11:40] <Arizona_Bay> ?
[11:41] <susundbe1g> Arizona_Bay: i dont know, maybe you should try to explain what is the error message that you receive?
[11:41] <Arizona_Bay> its not an error
[11:41] <Arizona_Bay> it installs perfectly
[11:42] <Arizona_Bay> but you cant find the icon or anything about for that matter
[11:42] <anev> Arizona_Bay: then what's the problem?
[11:42] <Arizona_Bay> it doessnt open
[11:42] <anev> execute it on the command line
[11:43] <anev> "soffice -writer" for example
[11:43] <Arizona_Bay> ill try wait
[11:44] <Arizona_Bay> it worked... anev
[11:44] <Arizona_Bay> no wait
[11:44] <Arizona_Bay> it open libreoffice
[11:49] <jafarm> Who here is familiar with getting Virtual box to work on Kernel 3.0.0.14  Ubuntu 11.10??
[11:50] <jafarm> Who here is familiar with getting Virtual box to work on Kernel 3.0.0.14  Ubuntu 11.10??
[11:50] <sveinse> Hi. I'm trying to install some packages to a staging directory. I'm using apt.conf setting RootDir to prefix root into the staging directory. apt-get update downloads the indexes, but at the end it fails as it tries to access the system's /var/lib/dpkg/lock, despite the RootDir setting. I suspect a bug (or some kind of feature). Please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/799261/ to recreate
[11:51] <sveinse> If I run the script, I notice that apt-get update accesses /var/lib/dpkg/lock while it IMHO is configured not to do so
[11:51] <Faralla> jafarm: I set up one yesterday, but have very limited knowledge, though. What's your problem?
[11:52] <jafarm> I'm trying to get Virtual Box to work on a Blackbuntu box upgraded via Upgrade-system to Ubuntu 11.10 with the latest kernel update 3.0.0.14.  I keep getting errors re: don't know how to do this
[11:52] <sveinse> I'll head over to #ubuntu-devel
[11:53] <Gentoo64> !virtualbox
[11:53] <jafarm> I'll give the repositories a try
[11:59] <Barclay> Hi there ubuntu channel. I am new to this chat thing so bear with me please. I am having a problem with Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit on a Thinkpad T61p. Can anyone offer assistance with an X login problem?
[12:01] <Guest61608> hi everyone alt+F2 not working with compiz in ubuntu when starts
[12:03] <Guest61608> hello help me plz
[12:05] <onre> what should alt+f2 do?
[12:07] <Barclay> Hello ... can anyone help with X problem in Oneiric?
[12:07] <bullgard6> [GNOME Shell 3.2.1] Using Nautilus 3.2.1 I associated .mp3 file playback with Audacious. /etc/gnome/defaults.list associates x-mp3 with banshee.desktop though. What file does store my hand-made association?
[12:07] <Gentoo64> bullgard6: try .local/share/Applications
[12:07] <bullgard6> !details | Barclay
[12:08] <_jason> bullgard6: ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list more specifically
[12:09] <bullgard6> Gentoo64: There is no ~/.local/share/Applications
[12:11] <Barclay> Hi - thanks. Details are: nvidia, lightdm, unity. All on IBM Thinkpad T61p under Ubuntu 11.10. At Desktop login, after password and return screen blanks, then nvidia splash briefly followed by return to login screen. Tried removing ~/.Xauthority but did not fix. Have also refreshed xserver-xorg package via apt-get and all that. still no improvement.
[12:15] <theadmin> Barclay: Can you try: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:18] <bullgard6> _jason: I found a file ~/.local/share/applications/mime-apps.list. It includes a line '[Added Assciations]' but no string 'mps'.
[12:19] <bullgard6> _jason: I found a file ~/.local/share/applications/mime-apps.list. It includes a line '[Added Assciations]' but no string 'mp3'.
[12:19] <Barclay> Thanks - tried that just now. Symptoms remain same - just cycling back to login screen. Also should say have tried to make new user and then in but that did not work either. Nobody can login to X. Alt-Fn terminals are all fully functional.
[12:20] <_jason> bullgard6: check for defaults.list
[12:20] <theadmin> Barclay: Okay, this is odd. Maybe it's a display manager's fault? Try installing, say, lxdm
[12:21] <bullgard6> _jason: The file defaults.list associates .mp3 with Banshee.
[12:21] <Barclay> theadmin: Thanks will try apt-get install lxdm
[12:21] <llutz_> Barclay: "ls -ld /tmp"  "df -h /tmp"
[12:22] <Davespice> hello people, enquiry here - I'm using Ubuntu 11.10, Gnome desktop, I have just bought a Brother HL-2250DN Laser Printer, will I be able to use it okay via it's Ethernet interface?
[12:23] <metasansana> hey all
[12:23] <llutz_> Davespice: get the driver debs from brother
[12:23] <ikonia> Davespice: if the device has compatible linux support, yes
[12:23] <mercury1> l
[12:23] <llutz_> Davespice: cupswrapper + lpr, those are needed to get it running
[12:23] <metasansana> i have server 10.04 with kvm, I configured a bridge but my default route is missing
[12:23] <metasansana> any ideas?
[12:24] <metasansana> it used to work before i put drbl on the machine
[12:24] <bullgard6> Barclay: Are you sure that you are using nvidia? I am using the same computer type but without the 'p'. My VGA is Intel.
[12:26] <metasansana> anyone?
[12:26] <Davespice> Thanks ikonia, I think I have it here; http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#HL-2250DN
[12:27] <metasansana> each time i try to configure the route manually i get SIOCADDRT: No such process
[12:28] <Barclay> theadmin: Installed lxdm. Tried to login got to desktop, but no window decorations and only a console visible - progress?
[12:28] <theadmin> Barclay: Somewhat... What session did you select when logging in? Try choosing "Unity" or "Ubuntu" or something like that, do not keep it at "Default Session"
[12:29] <theadmin> Barclay: Right now, please just type "exit" to return to lxdm
[12:30] <Barclay> llutz: Thanks for joining in - ls -ld /tmp => directory root/root /tmp df -h /tmp => /dev/sda1 mounted on /
[12:31] <Barclay> bullgard6: Thanks - yes definitely a T61p - this variant has an nvidia graphics card
[12:32] <llutz_> Barclay your shortened answer is useless.
[12:33] <llutz_> Barclay: check permissions of /tmp and if its full or not
[12:33] <theadmin> Oink.
[12:33] <theadmin> Why didn't I think about that first -_-
[12:33] <bullgard6> Barclay: All right. --  Good luck.
[12:34] <Psy0rz> hii
[12:36] <Barclay> llutz: Permissions for /tmp are: drwxrwxrwt
[12:37] <Davespice> I have another q: which anti-virus package do you reccomend for Ubuntu 11.10?
[12:37] <Kartagis> clamav
[12:37] <Davespice> I kind of feel you can almost get away without one on Linux, but you never know
[12:37] <auronandace> !av | Davespice
[12:37] <Barclay> theadmin: When selecting ubuntu session instead of default, lxdm shows original fault behaviour i.e. cycling back to login screen
[12:37] <theadmin> Barclay: Okay, so lxdm was not the problem
[12:38] <Davespice> I am using Samba
[12:38] <theadmin> Barclay: Err, rather, lightdm. If you prefer, you can install that back.
[12:38] <theadmin> Barclay: Now, as llutz states, check if /tmp is full.
[12:39] <xiayuweiye_> ?
[12:40] <xiayuweiye_> =   =
[12:40] <xiayuweiye_> 那啥。。。
[12:40] <xiayuweiye_> 有人么。。。
[12:40] <LjL> !cn | xiayuweiye_
[12:40] <theadmin> !cn | xiayuweiye_
[12:41] <afuentes> can somebody help me locate the package with the following string "este controlador proporciona soporte para hardware adicional y se puede instalar en la impresora" ? The translation is wrongly done and id like to send a proper translation
[12:41] <don_ace> U.S.A U.S.A !
[12:42] <LjL> don_ace: wrong channel?
[12:43] <don_ace> :D
[12:43] <don_ace> lol
[12:43] <LjL> afuentes: i can't help, but i'd point out there is an #ubuntu-translators channel that might know better
[12:43] <afuentes> i agree with don_ace usa is in a big mess right now
[12:43] <afuentes> thanks LjL
[12:44] <don_ace> i like california :-)
[12:44] <don_ace> i want to smoke pot on recept :D
[12:44] <don_ace> thin kit feels nice, legal to smoke hehe
[12:44] <theadmin> !ot | don_ace
[12:45] <don_ace> blas mir einen du geile sau
[12:45] <metasansana> Any help? I have server 10.04 with kvm, I configured a bridge but my default route is missing
[12:45] <don_ace> will irgendwer popo lecki ?
[12:46] <theadmin> !de | don_ace
[12:47] <ikonia> danke LjL
[12:47] <LjL> bitte
[12:48] <tilen1232> Hi, how to configure multiple ftp accounts (that each has its own public_html) and are managed with apache?
[12:48] <metasansana> nevermind I found out what was wrong
[12:48] <metasansana> incorrect ip address :)
[12:51] <Barclay> theadmin: Plenty room in /tmp. Should say that I am transiting into ubuntu from opensuse. Just went back to lxdm, and tried logging in to default. After a long delay an empty screen appeared, then after another long delay unity desktop appeared. I am now at a complete loss as to what is going on. I see from the interweb thingy that very many people have suffered this cyclic behaviour with desktop login, but there does not a
[12:51] <Barclay> ppear to be a definitive answer. For now, I will deal with my e-mails and backup while it appears to be working. Thanks to all who gave assistance. Apologies for my lack of knowledge as to irc-chat etiquette!
[12:52] <theadmin> Barclay: Okay, odd, really. I dunno what that was
[12:53] <txomon|nqas> mmoebius: I need to know if that DHCP server I have to configure in the netboot server, does override the router's DHCP one
[12:53] <mmoebius> txomon|nqas: not neccesarily. Try disabling DHCP in the router if possible.
[12:54] <txomon|nqas> mmoebius: thats the problem, not posible
[12:54] <mmoebius> Or tell (if possible) the router's DHCP server to server your Server as the "Boot Server"
[12:54] <Barclay> theadmin: At the risk of having spoken too soon, I see now that although unity is up, I have no window manager or decorations. About to try metacity, will keep you updated.
[12:54] <txomon|nqas> mmoebius: is it posible with openwrt?
[12:54] <mmoebius> txomon|nqas: You know how DHCP works ? D-O-R-A sequence ?
[12:55] <theadmin> Barclay: This is odd -- Unity is supposed to manage windows itself
[12:55] <txomon|nqas> mmoebius: I know, but the problem is if I can do so in the router
[12:55] <theadmin> (or is it?... Don't quite remember)
[12:55] <mmoebius> txomon|nqas: What do you mean by "possible" :-) In Openwrt, at least you could tell that dhcp server (usually dnsmasq) to put in the proper boot information
[12:55] <txomon|nqas> oki
[12:55] <txomon|nqas> going afk for a while
[12:55] <overclucker> tilen1232: Look up virtual hosting with apache. I've never setup vhosting, so I won't be much help there.
[12:56] <mmoebius> txomon|nqas: Qou have openwrt connmpatible router hardware ?
[12:56] <txomon|nqas> mmoebius: I already have it
[12:56] <txomon|nqas> bye!
[12:56] <mmoebius> txomon|nqas: May I ast (out of curiosity) which router hardware you are running ? I am looking into byunung something new sooner or later
[12:57] <mmoebius> txomon|nqas: good luck. .... If you are running small stuff, try www.freewrt.org, also. Makes smaller images than openwrt imho.
[12:57] <Barclay> theadmin: Yes when I try metacity the console says 'screen 0 on display ":0" already has a window manager' .But there are no decorations or buttons.
[12:57] <rdw> hi
[12:59] <prashant_123456> need more details in gnome windows for files, using ubuntu 11.10
[12:59] <Barclay> theadmin: This begins to look like a unity problem. Since I am unfamiliar with ubuntu package system, how do I refresh my installation?
[12:59] <theadmin> Barclay: "refresh" as in upgrade?
[13:00] <theadmin> Barclay: for i in (update upgrade) ; do sudo apt-get $i ; done
[13:01] <prashant_123456> how to uninstall a program in ubuntu 11.10
[13:01] <theadmin> prashant_123456: sudo apt-get remove pkgname
[13:01] <geirha> theadmin: without the parenthesis
[13:01] <prashant_123456> thanks theadmin
[13:02] <theadmin> geirha: Oh? Huh. Must have confused with some other shell...
[13:02] <brontosaurusrex> what would be the procedure to hide certain disk drives, so that the user/OS has no way to access them?
[13:02] <Barclay> Theadmin: No 'refresh' as in re-install the relevant packages for ubuntu desktop/unity window manager
[13:02] <theadmin> Barclay: sudo apt-get --reinstall install unity # Though that's not going to help you at all
[13:04] <prashant_123456> need more details in gnome windows for files, using ubuntu 11.10
[13:06] <overclucker> brontosaurusrex: run a modified kernel
[13:06] <Barclay> theadmin: What I would really like to do is re-install the whole X subsystem and the whole ubuntu desktop without disturbing my e-mail/news/multimedia  configurations.
[13:07] <zgr> guys does unity has log or something? sometimes itsn't loading, only cursor and wallpaper appears (can't right click, ctr+alt+t or anything). sometimes windows just disappear and when you alttab it switches to empty workspace. More strange is that if after I failed loading unity other DE's sessions fail to load too.
[13:07] <overclucker> brontosaurusrex: you aren't with SOPA, are you?
[13:07] <theadmin> Barclay: Uh, that might be... Ugh... Hm, well... sudo apt-get --reinstall install $(dpkg -l | awk '{print $1;}') # Will reinstall all packages on the system. Add a grep there if you wish to filter. But it won't touch the configs so it is safe enough...
[13:08] <theadmin> Barclay: But first, I suggest you try "unity --reset"
[13:10] <rdw> i have a TTY screens problem. even with current nvidia drivers they will show a little corrupted
[13:11] <theadmin> rdw: "corrupted"?
[13:12] <rdw> i mean, i can't see the characters very clearly. it is white background, black chars
[13:12] <qbitza> Howzit!
[13:12] <qbitza> Anyone know an easy way to disable Suhosin from standard php5 on Ubuntu 10.04 server?
[13:13] <qbitza> Seems the standard php5 deb comes with Suhosin patch applied, which sucks
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> !info sohusin
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> what's sohusin?
[13:15] <qbitza> It's some hardening / security additions that some 3rd party did
[13:15] <qbitza> Problem is it breaks some scripts
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> rather contzct the 3rd party, then
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> contact*
[13:15] <qbitza> Remind me, which one is Oneric?
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> 11.10
[13:16] <qbitza> But why does the Std Deb have the 3rd party patch applied?
[13:16] <Barclay> theadmin: Tried that and got lots of messages ending in segmentation fault. Now rebooting. If Bill Gates is watching maybe it magically fix itself. However I am making progress - at least I am able to see a desktop, even if it is not usable.
[13:16] <qbitza> Which is brain dead since there is a module available for it too
[13:17] <theadmin> Barclay: Sounds like it's out of RAM, or just doesn't like your hardware to me
[13:17] <qbitza> Some guys seem to think you have to build from source, but... I'd prtefer not to do that
[13:17] <senussi> hi
[13:17] <qbitza> MonkeyDust, perhaps it was fixed in the later distro?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> qbitza  doesnt ring a bell, cant help, maybe someone else can
[13:18] <senussi> guys i want some help
[13:18] <qbitza> Okay, thanks anyway
[13:20] <Barclay> theadmin: All this started yesterday, when I re-awakened the machine from overnight hibernate. Until than it had worked like a champion since ubuntu 11.04 upgraded to 11.10 last November. Has rebooted now but into lxdm!
[13:20] <MonkeyDust> says he needs help and leaves :s
[13:21] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: People are impatient sometimes
[13:21] <theadmin> Barclay: Well yeah it would boot into lxdm since we installed that. So, does it work now by any chance?
[13:25] <Barclay> theadmin: Came up into lxdm greeter, then using "default" it goes into the ubuntu desktop but without window decorations or controls. Will try unity --reset again.
[13:31] <Barclay> theadmin: Well that has worked, but lots of error messages scrolled by followed by window management ok. Icon sizes all screwed up though. Maybe I have an nvidia driver mismatch? Where can I find the definitive version for my kernel version?
[13:31] <theadmin> Barclay: Eh, well, try the "Hardware Drivers" tool
[13:32] <Guest75651> hello
[13:35] <txomon|home> mmoebius, I use a WRT54GL
[13:35] <Barclay> theadmin: Look - thanks very much for all your help. You have been very patient. Just one last question and I will let you get on with the rest of your day - How do I get back to lightdm?
[13:35] <theadmin> Barclay: sudo dpkg --configure lightdm
[13:37] <Barclay> theadmin: Thanks!  - Bye.
[13:37] <theadmin> Barclay: See ya
[13:40] <AFD> is there a way to upgrade ubuntu from 10.04 to 10.10 instead of the latest & greatest version?
[13:40] <theadmin> AFD: Well, yes, you can only upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10
[13:40] <theadmin> AFD: There's no way to do a direct upgrade, infact.
[13:41] <theadmin> AFD: You can't jump over versions :D
[13:41] <bullgard6> AFD:
[13:41] <Benkinooby> how can i see the packages i recently installed?
[13:41] <AFD> I mean if I upgrade it will go to 10.10 then 11.04 etc etc right?
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  i think you can with LTS's
[13:41] <bullgard6> AFD:  You can normally upgrade to 10.10.
[13:41] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: From LTS to LTS, only
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  10.04 is LTS
[13:41] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: Yeah, but there was no other LTS out after it
[13:41] <AFD> so running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should take me to 10.10 and then stop?
[13:42] <theadmin> AFD: Uh, no, that won't do anything
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> theadmin  right, 12.04 is the next :p
[13:42] <theadmin> AFD: sudo do-release-upgrade
[13:42] <bullgard6> AFD:  You do not have to upgrade any further once you have reached 10.10.
[13:43] <AFD> brilliant - thanks guys!
[13:43] <AFD> that's odd - it says it's running 10.04 but when I run sudo do-release-upgrade it says no new release found
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> isnt it dist-uograde?
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> p
[13:44] <EvilResistance> AFD:  you might want to wait for 12.04 to upgrade the distro
[13:44] <EvilResistance> AFD:  that way you upgrade to the LTS
[13:44] <EvilResistance> rather than having to do incremental upgrades
[13:44] <mylisto> I just deleted two files I wasn't supposed to delete (two mpg's) and and I need to get them back
[13:44] <mylisto> is this at all possible?
[13:44] <AFD> we don't want to switch users to unity though
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> mylisto  there's testdisk and scalpel
[13:45] <EvilResistance> AFD:  note that 10.10 is EOL once 12.04 comes out... i've been upgrading all the systems that had it to 11.04 and defaulting the login to gnome-shell
[13:45] <EvilResistance> !notunity | AFD
[13:45] <kingfisher64> could anybody help me move the dock to the bottom? i've been trying for hours. i started by trying http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/install-ubuntu-unity-bottom-launcher.html however i think i didn't complete that correctly (now uninstalled) then i tried http://www.n00bsonubuntu.net/content/how-to-move-unity-launcher-panel-to-bottom-of-screen-on-ubuntu-11-10/
[13:46] <AFD> EvilResistance: we have about 40 users of the server running nx and the slightest change will confuse them
[13:47] <AFD> I'm worried we need a test server to upgrade and keep them all working smoothly (ie. upgrade everything in 1 evening-night)
[13:47] <EvilResistance> AFD:  wait, if this is a server why are you using a GUI on it?
[13:48] <AFD> it's a remote server so our users are all in one central system and can work from anywhere
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> like Citrix
[13:48] <AFD> they log in from mac, windows, linux workstations - the lot
[13:48] <EvilResistance> mmm
[13:48] <EvilResistance> well you'll have to upgrade at some point, because of EOL
[13:48] <EvilResistance> !eol | AFD
[13:49] <AFD> EvilResistance: this is true
[13:49] <bobweaver> hello there you know how you can connect to your local lan using the file manger by going to "network" then to where ever it you want. I would like to do this in the terminal is this an option ? or do I have too mount the harddrive of the server to my  machine ? and go that way thanks !
[13:49] <EvilResistance> AFD:  so come april 2012, you'll have to decide to upgrade.  and you'll have to upgrade to *at least* Natty
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> bobweaver  use ssh
[13:50] <bobweaver> MonkeyDust: port is shut sirewall
[13:50] <EvilResistance> AFD:  (11.04, because 10.10 is EOL simultaneously as 10.04)
[13:50] <bobweaver> firewall
[13:50] <AFD> EvilResistance:  we'll maybe just plan for 12.04 now and get a test server running the way we want it
[13:50] <EvilResistance> wait...
[13:50] <EvilResistance> whoops i lied
[13:50] <EvilResistance> 10.04 is EOL in 2013
[13:50] <AFD> EvilResistance:  downtime would get me the sack
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> bobweaver  nfs, then?
[13:50]  * EvilResistance facepalms at his fail
[13:50] <bobweaver> MonkeyDust: I will try
[13:50] <Tm_T> EvilResistance: 10.04 eol's with 11.10
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> !nfs| bobweaver
[13:51] <bobweaver> thanks MonkeyDust!!
[13:51] <EvilResistance> Tm_T:  not according to this page?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases#Stable
[13:51] <EvilResistance> unless the page is wrong
[13:51] <EvilResistance> in which case i was right and i get to once again yell about the wiki being wrong
[13:52] <Tm_T> EvilResistance: huh
[13:52] <bobweaver> MonkeyDust: that is what the file manager uses ?
[13:52]  * bobweaver just started reading it 
[13:53]  * EvilResistance will bug the MOTUs, they'd definitely know whether 10.04 EOLs on the date specified on that page or not
[13:53] <_cb> join #zimbra
[13:53] <Tm_T> EvilResistance: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS April 2013 (Desktop), Ubuntu 11.10 April 2013
[13:54] <EvilResistance> oic
[13:54]  * EvilResistance misread you
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> bobweaver  on you remote pc, add IP address of the local pc to /etc/exports
[13:54] <plustax> where is the trash bin on gnome 3?
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> plustax  install advanced settings
[13:55] <_cb> Instead of, for example, writing an employee database I would like to extend Zimbra's database. Ie have one database for multiple programs. Any recommendations in that regard?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> _cb  i think that question is beyond this channel
[13:57] <plustax> MonkeyDust, where do I find that?
[13:57] <kingfisher64> nevermind - decided to go with cairo dock instead
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> plustax  in the repos or software center
[13:57] <plustax> MonkeyDust, so gnome3 doesnt inherently COME with a trash bin?
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> plustax  it does, but it is not displayed
[13:58] <plustax> Gotcha.
[13:58] <plustax> Thanks for your help.
[13:58] <plustax> gnome 3 is AMAZING
[13:58] <plustax> MonkeyDust, one more question. When I go to login, the onscreen keyboard is for some reason present. Anyway to remove it?
[13:59] <_cb> MonkeyDust maybe I phrased the question wrong. Are there is reasons I should not do that from a Zimbra perspective or if Zimbra guidelines on how to extend ZIMBRA's SQL database? I know there are guidelines on how to extend LDAP.
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> plustax  i think it's called caribou, you can remove it from the startup applications
[13:59] <Promille> Hello, wonderful people. Does anything have an opinion on whats the best utility to cooperate with iPhone 4S(import Music and eBooks mainly) Thanks in advance!
[13:59] <Promille> anyone*
[14:00] <_cb> MonkeyDust maybe I phrased the question wrong. Are there  Zimbra guidelines on how to extend ZIMBRA's SQL database? I know there are guidelines on how to extend LDAP. (Sorry for prev post)
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> _cb  i know what zimbra is, but have never used it, so cant say
[14:01] <plustax> MonkeyDust, so I downloaded advanced settings and im making changes but they dont seem to be taking effect. Any idea why?
[14:01] <_cb> oops I am on the wrong channel. Sorry guys.
[14:01] <GirlyGirl> Hi can someone help me set up contact to sync with Google Calendar
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> plustax  'have file manager handle the desktop'
[14:02] <dubey> hello
[14:02] <plustax> MonkeyDust, change that to off?
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> lol
[14:02] <dubey> Is there any way to connect to multiple servers from remote ssh console ?
[14:02] <plustax> MonkeyDust, It was already on. I tried to change the theme and no dice
[14:03] <GirlyGirl> I want to set Google Calendar with Kontact (KDE-pim) I am using KDE 4.8 RC2 (Build 4.7.97)
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> plustax  explore advanced settings a bit
[14:05] <prashant_123456> anyone knows puzzle games for linux ??
[14:06] <RaTTuS|BIG> prashant_123456 - check the sofware center
[14:06] <prashant_123456> RaTTuS|BIG, ok
[14:07] <Oer> RaTTuS|BIG, softwarecentre isn't a puzzle, right ?
[14:08] <GirlyGirl> prashant_123456: In KDE there is a plasmoid where you can set any picture and shuffle its pieces thus making it a puzzle
[14:09] <GirlyGirl> Any ideas about my Kontact (KDE-pim) issue mentioned above?
[14:09] <prashant_123456> GirlyGirl, using gnome
[14:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> prashant_123456 no but there are games listed you can find them on there
[14:10] <prashant_123456> RaTTuS|BIG, i got it in software center
[14:11] <GirlyGirl> prashant_123456: I am unwilling to do so
[14:11] <prashant_123456> GirlyGirl, ok
[14:12] <RaTTuS|BIG> prashant_123456 though the only game you even need is nethack [sudo apt-get install nethack-console ]
[14:13] <prashant_123456> RaTTuS|BIG, ok
[14:14] <GirlyGirl> Anyone?
[14:23] <bullgard6> [GNOME Shell 3.2.1] Mittels Nautilus 3.2.1 habe ich das Abspielen von  .mp3-Dateien mit  Audacious assoziiert. /etc/gnome/defaults.list assoziiert aber  x-mp3 mit Banshee.desktop. Welche Datei speichert meine Assoziation von Hand?
[14:24] <_jason> bullgard6: I meant defaults.list in ~/.local/share/applications .   Is that what you checked?
[14:24] <orkaa> Hello
[14:25] <orkaa> Is there a way for release upgrading a cluster of ubuntu machines
[14:25] <orkaa> I also asked this question on serverfault
[14:25] <orkaa> http://serverfault.com/questions/348231/upgrading-ubuntu-release-on-a-cluster-of-servers
[14:25] <orkaa> as far as I can see, the only acceptable way of upgrading is 'do-release-upgrade'
[14:25] <orkaa> but that doesn't scale
[14:26] <hobbels> Is there a way to increase iwl3945 TX power in ubuntu (wireless card). Its set at 15dB but i know its capable of doing way more
[14:27] <who_me> orkaa, are they actually clustered or ... maybe pixie booting them with the install image would work :)
[14:27] <ubuntuaddicted1> morning
[14:28] <NastyNaz> who created this channel?
[14:28] <plustax> im on 11.10 running gnome 3 and whenever im on my lockscreen, the onscreen keyboard shows up. Any way to stop it from doing so?
[14:28] <GirlyGirl> Hi can someone help me set up contact to sync with Google Calendar
[14:28] <prashant_123456> how to change windows colors in gnome, using ubuntu 11.10
[14:28] <GirlyGirl> I want to set Google Calendar with Kontact (KDE-pim) I am using KDE 4.8 RC2 (Build 4.7.97)
[14:28] <orkaa> who_me: problem is that they are scattered all over the country
[14:28] <orkaa> I don't have direct access
[14:28] <who_me> ouch
[14:29] <orkaa> yep.
[14:29] <bullgard6> _jason: In Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1 there is only one relevant file »defaults.list«. Namely /etc/gnome/defaults.list. Two other files having the same filename are only softlinks to it. In ~/.local/share/applications/ there is no defaults.list.
[14:29] <who_me> are they in data centers or just diff locations where your company operates ?
[14:30] <orkaa> who_me: kiosks connected to public networks here and there..
[14:30] <_jason> bullgard6: pastebin ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[14:30] <orkaa> but I have a controlled vpn network between them
[14:30] <who_me> orkaa, heh, looks to me like someone's gonna make a field-trip :)
[14:31] <orkaa> who_me: nah, I mean..
[14:31] <orkaa> I could upgrade them with apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:31] <bbbbbbbb> my kindle does not get detected when attached. how do i mount it
[14:31] <orkaa> and I guess it would kind of work
[14:31] <orkaa> but since it's not a preferred ubuntu method
[14:31] <bullgard6> _jason: mimeapps.list does not list an entry with a »mp3« string.
[14:31] <who_me> orkaa, what will you do if for some reason systems do not come back up ?
[14:31] <_jason> bbbbbbbb: sudo mount /dev/whatever_for_your_kindle /media/some_mount_point_you_create
[14:32] <orkaa> I though you had a better idea :)
[14:32] <_jason> bullgard6: can you pastebin it?
[14:32] <orkaa> who_me: I would have to go there :)
[14:32] <bullgard6> _jason: What should I pastebin?
[14:32] <_jason> bullgard6: the file
[14:32] <orkaa> who_me: but I have a test environment
[14:32] <orkaa> and the nodes are almost identical
[14:33] <malibu> Hi there.. does anyone know how to drag a window to the next workspace in unity?
[14:33] <bbbbbbbb> _jason: thanks
[14:33] <monica_> hi all
[14:33] <monica_> how I create a xorg.conf in my 11.10?
[14:34] <ffk27> X -configure
[14:34] <malibu> Got it... need to enable edge flipping in compiz
[14:34] <ffk27> or nvidia-xconfig
[14:35] <SpaceAviator> hello - I recently switched from OS X to UBuntu completely. :) I have a macbook pro 6,2 and everything seems to working fine but sometimes my trackpad freezes and there is nothing I can do to unfreeze it. They keyboard still works so I have to reboot. This has happened a few times already. Any suggestions?
[14:35] <bullgard6> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799412/
[14:35] <orkaa> who_me: the real question I wanted to ask was: how much worse is 'apt-get dist-upgrade' compared to 'do-release-upgrade'?
[14:36] <jpds> orkaa: do-release-upgrade is smarter and tweaks things according for new release updates.
[14:36] <_jason> bullgard6: gvfs-info some_random.mp3 | grep content-type    should shed some light
[14:37] <malibu> Hmm.. enabling edge flipping didn't work, just wants to grid the window
[14:37] <orkaa> jpds: yeah, I opened the tar.gz that do-release-upgrade ships..
[14:37] <bullgard6> SpaceAviator: If I remember right then this is a common problem. You should google for "OS X", "Ubuntu" "Macbook pro 6.2" "trackpad" and "freeze".
[14:37] <orkaa> it contained a few patches and dependency stuff...
[14:37] <orkaa> but is using that a MUST
[14:37] <orkaa> or just recommended?
[14:37] <jpds> orkaa: And it does everything like changes sources.list for you.
[14:38] <SpaceAviator> bullgard6: I did - I didn't come up with anything useful... :/
[14:38] <_jason> orkaa: it's the only supported way to upgrade afaik
[14:38] <bullgard6> _jason: What do you mean by some_random»«? Is this a literal?
[14:39] <_jason> bullgard6: I mean choose any mp3 you want
[14:39] <orkaa> _jason: that's a shame really
[14:39] <orkaa> cause it's not really a tool made with servers in mind
[14:40] <monica_> hi ffk27... I get this error: http://pastebin.com/CJ6HRheP
[14:40] <almoxarife> bullgard6: i believe i have seen ramdom.mp3 out there, you might google it
[14:40] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:41] <bullgard6> almoxarife: I do not know why I shluld google for »random.mp3«. Can you elaborate.
[14:42] <almoxarife> bullgard6: to find it?
[14:43] <malibu> Does anyone know if I can set up compiz to do edge-flip if ALT is pressed, but use the grid otherwise?
[14:43] <monica_> how I restart 11.10 without graphic? I tried init 3 but without success
[14:43] <bullgard6> almoxarife: Your message is too short and thus not helpful.
[14:43] <ffk27> monica_: you did read my last messages?
[14:43] <monica_> ffk27 no
[14:43] <_jason> bullgard6: if you run the command I gave you on an mp3 of your choice,  you will see that it's considered a file of type "audio/mpeg".  This is the point I am trying to get across
[14:43] <almoxarife> monica_: sudo reboot, on a terminal
[14:43] <TheBuntu> alt+f2 not working to restart gnome shell
[14:43] <obakfahad> Guys,I have a modem for windows.....but it can connect from linux too but that is for older kernels...that means in older kernels it shows that modem as cdrom and by 'eject" command it changes its ID and vendor from "lsusb" command in older kernels....But in newer it shows Nothing But from "lsusb"-......vendor:ID 19d2:ffde and which need to 19d2:ffdd for "kppp" or modeswitch..............what should i do? Can i mount That device f
[14:43] <ffk27> monica_: ctrl+alt+f1
[14:43] <bullgard6> monica_: sudo service lightdm restart
[14:44] <ffk27> monica_: pkill gdm
[14:44] <SpaceAviator> bullgard6: any other suggestions?
[14:44] <almoxarife> bullgard6: hence why i suggested google, thus trying to help
[14:44] <bullgard6> SpaceAviator: No. I am sorry.
[14:45] <monica_> almoxarife....without graphic
[14:45] <obakfahad> ?
[14:45] <almoxarife> monica_: you just want to restart the comp? or you want to restart graphics?
[14:46] <monica_> I need a session without X server
[14:46] <almoxarife> monica_: alt cntrl f1
[14:46] <ffk27> monica: ctrl+alt+f1 , then pkill gdm
[14:46] <monica_> thanks ffk27...I try
[14:47] <AnonymousXATS> hola
[14:48] <AnonymousXATS> saven de la operacion payback
[14:48] <AnonymousXATS> ?
[14:48] <almoxarife> AnonymousXATS: no
[14:49] <AnonymousXATS> http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/8301871/Operacion-payback-para-usuarios-ubuntu_.html
[14:49] <anev> AnonymousXATS: nadie aki saben ni importan mucho
[14:49] <auronandace> !english | anev
[14:50] <anev> auronandace: soz
[14:51] <bullgard6> _jason: '~$ gvfs-info /usr/share/libubuntuone/1/javascript/empty.mp3 | grep content-type;   standard::content-type: audio/mpeg;   standard::fast-content-type: audio/mpeg'
[14:51] <_jason> bullgard6: you understand now?
[14:51] <bullgard6> _jason: No.
[14:52] <_jason> bullgard6: your mimeapps.list has an association for audio/mpeg
[14:52] <bullgard6> _jason: Right. And what does that mean for my problem?
[14:52] <monica_> ff2k...it restart the graphic
[14:52] <_jason> bullgard6: what is your problem?
[14:52] <AxonetBE> if I don't want to specify a dayweek in the crontab I can just use * ?
[14:52] <skel> can anyone direct me as to how I can get empathy status to show up in the little semi-transparent pop-up bar at the bottom of gnome shell 3.x ?
[14:52] <skel> right now in order to open the friends list I have to go execute empathy every time, and when I close it to get it out of the way it doesn't "minimize" anywhere
[14:52] <_jason> AxonetBE: yes
[14:53] <AxonetBE> ok
[14:53] <monica_> ffk27 ... it restart the graphic
[14:53] <iceroot> AxonetBE: you can use * on every cron-field
[14:53] <monica_> I would use X -configure
[14:53] <ffk27> monica_ you did X -configure
[14:53] <bullgard6> _jason: My problem is the following: [GNOME Shell 3.2.1] Using Nautilus 3.2.1 I associated .mp3 file playback with Audacious. /etc/gnome/defaults.list associates x-mp3 with banshee.desktop though. What file does store my hand-made association?
[14:54] <monica_> ffk27 I cannot do it with the graphic mode
[14:54] <AxonetBE> iceroot: Ok, but I just want to check if I use spefic date with specific time I still have to set the correct responding day of the week or I can just use the *
[14:54] <Lunar_La1p> Is there a diagram like this that includes 8.04 (Hardy): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[14:54] <helder_raptor> error installing totem-video-thumbnailer foer ubuntu-tv http://paste.ubuntu.com/799443/
[14:54] <ffk27> monica_ same error?
[14:54] <Lunar_La1p> I need a link on the Ubuntu website to prove that support is running out soon for servers.
[14:54] <_jason> bullgard6: ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[14:54] <ffk27> already an X server running?
[14:54] <SpaceAviator> bullgard6: also I enabled wobbly windows in compiz but seems like it doesn't work - what am I missing there?
[14:55] <auronandace> !releases | Lunar_La1p
[14:55] <bullgard6> _jason: The file ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list does not list any mp3 entry.
[14:55] <monica_> I've done...thanks
[14:55] <_jason> bullgard6: correct.  But we just established it has audio/mpeg
[14:55] <iceroot> Lunar_La1p: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/timeline/dade00253b5f51e91b13029c3a26ffc0.png
[14:55] <bullgard6> _jason: Yes. But what has that to do with mp3?
[14:55] <monica_> ffk27...I created a xorg.conf.new in my home...where I put it to test it?
[14:56] <_jason> bullgard6: that is the mimetype for .mp3
[14:56] <prashant_123456> i just installed gnome shell in ubuntu 11.10 but not getting how to run it
[14:56] <ffk27> cp /path/to/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:56] <_jason> bullgard6: my guess is you can associate based on mimetype OR extension
[14:56] <skel> anyone know how to get empathy status to show up in the gnome-shell bar at the bottom so I can access it there to bring up the buddy list at any time?
[14:56] <prashant_123456> ffk27, ok
[14:57] <duelle> prashant_123456: You can select the GNOME shell in your login screen if it is installed correctly.
[14:57] <bullgard6> _jason: Can you prove that "audio/mpeg is the mime-type for .mp3"?
[14:57] <_jason> bullgard6: we did that when you ran gvfs-info
[14:57] <prashant_123456> duelle, you mean i have to logoff
[14:58] <duelle> prashant_123456: As far as I understood your intent, you wanted to switch from unity to gnome, right?
[14:58] <_jason> bullgard6: if you wish, change the association in that file for audio/mpeg and see what happens
[14:58] <bullgard6> _jason: Ah! --  I need to carefully re-read our conversation. --  Thank you for your patience.
[14:58] <ubuntu_> dhruv
[14:58] <prashant_123456> duelle, actually i m using gnome right now
[14:58] <ubuntu_> ok
[14:58] <prashant_123456> duelle, but want to add color to windows borders
[14:59] <helder_raptor> error installing totem-video-thumbnailer foer ubuntu-tv http://paste.ubuntu.com/799443/
[14:59] <ubuntu_> any girl out there?
[14:59] <_jason> bullgard6: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/mime-actions-spec this is closest form of documentation I can find.  Maybe references at the bottom prove more enlightening.
[14:59] <yumbo> ubuntu_, you're on the internet...
[15:00] <vinny> lol
[15:00] <duelle> prashant_123456: I didn't try that myself. But if you want to change your Window manager, you got to log off and on again with the correct WM selected. But I'm not sure whether this corresponds to your intended changes.
[15:00] <prashant_123456> duelle, ok
[15:00] <skel> anyone know how to make empathy status display in gnome-shell notification bar at the bottom?
[15:00] <prashant_123456> duelle, thanks
[15:02] <duelle> skel: afaik you can move it by unlocking it and then moving it to the bottom bar. But not sure whether this works in Gnome3.
[15:02] <skel> duelle: currently it doesn't display anywhere, should it be in the top bar?
[15:02] <helder_raptor> error installing totem-video-thumbnailer foer ubuntu-tv http://paste.ubuntu.com/799443/
[15:03] <ciuffo> ciao a tutti
[15:03] <yumbo> helder_raptor, thats because the package isnt available in the default repo's
[15:03] <skel> duelle: basically I just want to get the contact list somewhere readily accessible
[15:03] <helder_raptor> yumbo: how do i get it?
[15:04] <duelle> skel: I use pidgin atm, but as far as I can remember it should display an icon... but perhaps theres a setting in empathy that enables or displays that taskbar icon?
[15:04] <duelle> *disables
[15:04] <yumbo> helder_raptor, where does it say that you need it?
[15:04] <skel> duelle: yeah must be something like that. I'll dig around in .local
[15:04] <helder_raptor> ubuntu TV
[15:05] <ubuntuaddicted1> Hell YEAH
[15:05] <ubuntuaddicted1> Ubuntu will explode onto the scene this year promist
[15:05] <ubuntuaddicted1> promise
[15:05] <yumbo> helder_raptor, link me the page
[15:05] <ikonia> yeah yeah, whatever
[15:06] <Poisonfibre> if SOPA goes into action, Ubuntu will be the worlds main OS
[15:06] <helder_raptor> it came up on my bash
[15:06] <almoxarife> ubuntu TV?
[15:06] <helder_raptor> nd also i cant get past formFactor
[15:06] <shaneo> hey guys would this work in a bash script hey guys will this work read -p "Pick a port between blah-blah" if [ $REPLY == *blah-blah ] then yadda yadda
[15:06] <buzzmandt> What is SOPA?
[15:06] <parsifal_> hi, I couldn't find an answer for this easily on google, and my laptop battery is running out… how can I 'revert' my install back to the stock ubuntu 11.10?
[15:06] <parsifal_> using apt-get or whatever else from the command line (i.e. without a cd)
[15:06] <shaneo> stop online privacy act
[15:07] <yumbo> shaneo, best to ask in #bash
[15:07] <ubuntuaddicted1> google SOPA
[15:07] <Pici> !offtopic
[15:07] <Davespice> guys, can I ask... what do people think of the Unity Shell in 11.10? It is not to my taste myself, but my parents are using it...
[15:07] <yumbo> parsifal_, what did you change to make it non-stock ?
[15:07] <Benkinooby> hi, i have a ubuntu 10.04 where i enabled s3tc support via driconf. on a ubuntu 11.10 driconf does not offer the option i used on 10.04. any ideas?
[15:07] <yumbo> Davespice, I like Gnome Shell
[15:07] <parsifal_> yumbo: I was trying to uninstall Unity, and somehow broke the entire thing
[15:07]  * Davespice nods
[15:07] <Davespice> me too
[15:08] <venkatmangudi> Davespice: yumbo: me too...
[15:08] <Davespice> gnome 2d I use with no effects =)
[15:08] <venkatmangudi> :)
[15:08] <auronandace> Davespice: i prefer xfce, nice and configurable
[15:08] <venkatmangudi> try xfce Davespice
[15:08] <parsifal_> yumbo: I actually just fixed that apparently, by reinstalling lightdm
[15:08] <yumbo> parsifal_, thats one way to do it :)
[15:08] <Davespice> oh okay interesting
[15:08] <almoxarife> parsifal_: try to re-install ubuntu-desktop, thats the package name
[15:08] <parsifal_> almoxarife: thank you
[15:09] <yumbo> Davespice, gnome 3 with effects here (intel integrated gpu's are very well supported)
[15:09] <buzzmandt> Googled it. Its not privacy. Its stop online piracy act.
[15:09] <parsifal_> of course, as I asked, I got back into gnome (it was stalling during the boot process).. I have too many entries in my shell list tho now
[15:09] <Pici> buzzmandt: Its offtopic for this channel.
[15:09] <almoxarife> buzzmandt: i thoughht it be a floofy bath oil
[15:10] <duelle> skel: May it be that empathy also integrates with the gnome mail icon? Thats the way it works under gnome2
[15:11] <skel> duelle: I had that when I used the ppa for gnome shell in 11.04 but now that I've done a fresh install to gnome 11.10 I no longer have the mail icon
[15:11] <parsifal_> wow, I ran apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, and apparently a ton of packages were deinstalled. yikes. I'll just live with unity for now
[15:11] <skel> duelle: any idea on how to get that to display?
[15:11] <parsifal_> maybe I'll end up liking it more
[15:11] <sistemas> kkhufr
[15:13] <Cas> hi silly question but just logged out on 12.04 live cd and have no idea what the password is to login again
[15:14] <parsifal_> almoxarife: knowing that package named helped me a lot.. ty
[15:14] <helder_raptor> error installing totem-video-thumbnailer foer ubuntu-tv http://paste.ubuntu.com/799443/
[15:14] <duelle> skel: Currently I don't have any gnome3 system here :( But found a post that describes your problem and presents a solution ( http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/never-miss-im-notifications-in-gnome.html ) Perhaps that works for you too?
[15:14] <auronandace> !12.04 | Cas
[15:14] <almoxarife> parsifal_: i have restored mine too, alot, that seems the simplest way
[15:15] <prashant_123456> how to change windows title bar color in gnome 3 classic
[15:15] <skel> duelle: cool, I'll check it out, thank you =]
[15:15] <duelle> skel, good luck ;)
[15:16] <Cas> auronandace, thanks for no help, just found out its the same as all other live cd logins
[15:17] <auronandace> Cas: my point was that you are in the wrong channel for 12.04
[15:17] <prashant_123456> how to change windows title bar color in gnome 3 classic
[15:17] <Cas> tru but the question was simple and could have been answered
[15:21] <prashant_123456> how to change windows title bar color in gnome 3 classic
[15:22] <duelle> prashant_123456: Found this by searching for your keywords: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umXbx6wtOAg
[15:23] <Benkinooby> hi, i have a ubuntu 10.04 where i enabled s3tc support via driconf. on a ubuntu 11.10 driconf does not offer the option ifor enableing s3tc used on 10.04. any ideas?
[15:23] <DragonSlay> anyone from india?
[15:23] <ikonia> DragonSlay: why ?
[15:23] <venkatmangudi> DragonSlay: why?
[15:23] <prashant_123456> DragonSlay, i m from india
[15:24] <nikke> why cant i use dd command in xubuntu?
[15:24] <RaTTuS|BIG> nikke becase your doing it wrong - try sudo dd
[15:24] <nikke> RaTTuS|BIG, doesnt work
[15:24] <TheBuntu> Is debians iceweasel just for debian or is there a repo for ubuntu
[15:25] <RaTTuS|BIG> nikke what is that you are typing
[15:25] <prashant_123456> duelle, i have gnome 3 classic
[15:25] <nikke> dd_rescue
[15:25] <prashant_123456> duelle, have seen it before
[15:25] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ddrescue.html
[15:26] <RaTTuS|BIG> dd_rescue is not a correct command line
[15:26] <duelle> prashant_123456: Sorry, didn't see that it was the wrong version :( Just can't try to search for it, cause I don't have any system using gnome3 (classic). Just found http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/change-gnome-3-gnome-shell-or-classic.html but you saw that too I thing.
[15:26] <duelle> *think
[15:27] <nikke> RaTTuS|BIG, okey so what is then?
[15:27] <nikke> RaTTuS|BIG, ddrescue doesnt work either
[15:28] <nikke> i want to create a live opensuse usb stick
[15:28] <nikke> unetbootin doesnt work
[15:29] <prashant_123456> duelle, ok i will try it
[15:29] <duelle> prashant_123456: Sorry, that I can't help you any further.
[15:30] <prashant_123456> duelle, ok its ok sir
[15:31] <DragonSlay> TheBuntu, try icecat from GNU
[15:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> nikke http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[15:32] <blast007> nikke: there's also an openSUSE support channel at #suse
[15:34] <Benkinooby> hi, can some1 help me with driconf? i use driconf on ubuntu 10.04 and when i wanted to use it on (an other laptop with ubuntu 11.10) many options i had in 10.04 are missing :(
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> !info driconf
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> what's DRI, if not the name of a rockband?
[15:36] <gulzar> where is that file to edit system name? Not the host name but OS name. Want to put my own name.
[15:36] <Benkinooby> MonkeyDust, installing it is not the problem... it works, but it doesn not show all the options i have on an other computer
[15:36] <Benkinooby> MonkeyDust, i also installed all recommended and suggested packages
[15:37] <TheBuntu> DragonSlay, any difference in iceweasel and icecat
[15:38] <samuel02> where can I get help with getting apache2 working on ubuntu?
[15:38] <ffk27> here
[15:38] <auronandace> TheBuntu: just a name change i think
[15:38] <DragonSlay> TheBuntu, they are simply firefox variants..
[15:38] <ffk27> samuel02: whats your question?
[15:39] <samuel02> I get 403 when trying to browse
[15:39] <samuel02> could it be due to the fact that it's a subdomain?
[15:39] <ffk27> seems like a permision error
[15:39] <blast007> samuel02: read the error log
[15:40] <ffk27> you use cgi's in that subdomain?
[15:40] <samuel02> ffk27, what permissions should be set to what? Yeah, I see permission errors in log
[15:40] <TheBuntu> yeah i know but when i was trying out debian the other day iceweasel seemed faster for some reason
[15:40] <samuel02> ffk27, nope just have a domain with dns pointer for a subdomain pointed at this server
[15:40] <samuel02> the www.domain.com goes to other server
[15:41] <prashant_123456> i just installed gnome tweak tool but not getting how to start it
[15:41] <sanman> samuel02: are the pages for your website owned by the user that runs apache?
[15:42] <samuel02> sanman, I believe so, let me check..
[15:43] <arms> !welcom
[15:44] <samuel02> sanman, I actually have 8 apache processes, 7 of them running as www-data and 1 running as root, and owner of the files is 'ubuntu' so obviously there's something wrong here..
[15:45] <blast007> Benkinooby: perhaps the differences you're seeing are just the differences in the graphics chipsets/drivers on each laptop.
[15:46] <blast007> samuel02: the issue is the owner of the files
[15:46] <samuel02> blast007, so what is the best way of doing it, what user should run apache and own the files?
[15:46] <blast007> just chown/chgrp the files and directories to www-data
[15:46] <ctdabomb> really stupid question: I am in the terminal changing the permissions for a folder how do you change permissions for all the subfolders also? sudo chmod 777 /usr/share/games/supertux2
[15:47] <ffk27> chmod -R 777
[15:47] <jutnux> sudo chmod -R 777 ctdabomb
[15:47] <ctdabomb> so like sudo chmod -R 777 /usr/share/games/supertux2?
[15:48] <compdoc> be careful with that command
[15:48] <ffk27> why do you want all permissions?
[15:48] <ctdabomb> because it is for a game and I need to edit the files
[15:48] <DragonSlay1> !help cloak
[15:49] <Benkinooby2> blast007,  and this http://imagebin.org/192871
[15:49] <Benkinooby> blast007, no... i am lacking a vast amount of option comapare http://imagebin.org/192872
[15:49] <venkatmangudi> DragonSlay1: not here, try #freenode
[15:49] <yumbo> I have frequently seen chmod -R scew up a lot
[15:49] <ffk27> yes don't do chmod -R 777 /
[15:49] <yumbo> I always just open the folder with "gksu nautilus" and then edit permissions
[15:50] <blast007> Benkinooby: you're comparing entirelly different chipsets. one is an ATI/AMD graphics chipset, one is an Intel chipset.
[15:51] <blast007> so of course they'll have different sets of options..
[15:51] <Benkinooby2> blast007,  hat, this you mean? VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M24GL [Mobility FireGL V3200
[15:51] <Benkinooby2> blast007,  got that from lspci
[15:52] <blast007> yeah, the other is a intl 945GME
[15:52] <blast007> intel*
[15:52] <Benkinooby> blast007,  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[15:53] <Benkinooby> blast007, how did you see the ATI from the screenshots?
[15:53] <auronandace> r300
[15:53] <blast007> R300 is an ATI chip codename
[15:53] <samuel02> still not working! now www-data is the owner of all files and 6 processes running apache2, 1 as root rest as www-data
[15:53] <Benkinooby> blast007, ah, ok didn't notice...
[15:53] <Benkinooby> know
[15:54] <Benkinooby2> blast007,  in that case i won't be able to enable s3tc on the ATI card?
[15:54] <Chotaz`w> I need some help with remote desktop connections, does anyone mind spending some time explaining me a few?
[15:55] <ThePendulum> Greetings
[15:55] <krish> hi guys, im installing puppet `apt-get install puppet` and it asks me whether to overwrite the existing config file or use maintainers version
[15:56] <krish> could someone pls tell me how to skip this
[15:56] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to display a custom message/notification when I try to shut down Ubuntu?
[15:56] <krish> or provide default option
[15:56] <krish> in the command itself
[15:56] <BryanRuiz1> i cant seem to stop ufw
[15:56] <ThePendulum> krish: I guess you would just tell it not to override the existing config?
[15:56] <BryanRuiz1> im getting an error "rejected send message"
[15:56] <krish> ThePendulum: yeah
[15:57] <almoxarife> BryanRuiz1: do you use ufw?
[15:57] <krish> but I want to use this in the a script.. so I dont want it to wait for user
[15:57] <Caifas> sudo find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 md5sum > md5sum.txt
[15:57] <Caifas> bash: md5sum.txt: Permission denied
[15:57] <Caifas> what is wrong with this command guys?
[15:57] <BryanRuiz1> almoxarife: no i dont, im trying to shut if off
[15:57] <Chotaz`w> I need to be able to visually see my home desktop, i have su access through a secured SSH tunnel, can I use this to setup any type of remote desktop client?
[15:58] <almoxarife> BryanRuiz1: if you never use it, then un-install it, to shut it off you need root permission
[15:58] <samuel02> blast007, still not working! now www-data is the owner of all files and 6 processes running apache2, 1 as root rest as www-data
[15:59] <blast007> Benkinooby2: probably not.  not to say that software can't choose to use that compression.  I believe the option on the Intel driver is to *force* the use of s3tc compression.
[15:59] <blast007> samuel02: what about the containing directory that the files are contained within?
[15:59] <blast007> s/containing //
[15:59] <yumbo> Caifas, ask in #bash
[16:01] <samuel02> blast007, does not make a difference
[16:01] <samuel02> blast007, the dir is owned by www-data
[16:06] <Birk__> Hey guys, anyone can help me with some ssh problems ?
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> Caifas  try ~/md5sum
[16:06] <jutnux> Birk__: What's the problem?
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> Caifas  try
[16:09] <Caifas> MonkeyDust didn't work :(
[16:10] <Birk__> jutnux: I'm trying to create a cloud enviroment with openstack. I have a VM running on a machine located in a local network and I'm trying to ssh this VM from the gateway machine, but im getting this errror: Permission denied (publickey)
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> Caifas  did you try the complete command line, but output to ~/md5sum.txt ?
[16:10] <jutnux> Birk__: Then you are entering the wrong password / do not have your public key on the server
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Birk__: do you use keys for SSH?
[16:11] <Birk__> I'm using a .priv archive suing this command: ssh -i archive.priv ubuntu@10.0.0.2
[16:12] <Pici> Birk__: fyi, you might get more specialized support in #ubuntu-cloud, #ubuntu-server or #openstack, if you haven't tried there already :)
[16:13] <Birk__> Pici: I'm trying at #openstack, but thanks :) I'll try at ubuntu-cloud
[16:13] <diverdude> What is the password of the www-data user?
[16:13] <diverdude> by default
[16:14] <Pumpkin-> "invalid", ie: you cannot login to it with a password.
[16:15] <diverdude> Pumpkin-: hmm ok...how do i then log in with that user?
[16:15] <Humbedooh> you don't :>
[16:15] <Caifas> MonkeyDust yes
[16:15] <Humbedooh> do you want to run a program as that user?
[16:15] <diverdude> Humbedooh: hmmm but i need to test if it can connect to my gitolite
[16:16] <Pumpkin-> generally you don't. If you want to work as that user for some reason, use something like "sudo sudo -u www-data -i"
[16:17] <Pumpkin-> the 1st sudo to let you run something as root, the second to change your user to (-u) www-data and give you an interactive shell (-i)
[16:17] <curran> I installed ardour last night and all of it's dependencies, and now my sound isn't working.  I can hear system sounds, but not while playing music files.  I uninstalled ardour and it's deps. and also reinstalled alsa, but no luck.  anyone got any ideas?
[16:18] <popsch> how can I see which application tried to unlock the keyring? In the popup window it only says 'An application wants access..."
[16:18] <yumbo> Pumpkin-, I think you don't even need the first sudo
[16:18] <blast007> or you could just do "sudo su -" for a root shell, or "sudo su - www-data" for a shell as www-data
[16:18] <ikonia> you can't switch user to www-data
[16:18] <ikonia> it doesnt have a shell
[16:18] <ikonia> sudo -i for a root shell
[16:19] <blast007> then "sudo su -s /bin/bash - www-data"
[16:19] <Pumpkin-> worked for me
[16:19] <osmosis_paul> hi guys, I'm trying to execute this rsync command and in the same machine works, but in remote machine dont
[16:19] <osmosis_paul> su www-data -c "rsync -avz --delete portaluser@10.0.0.55::portal/resources/customer-bm/destination-teste/ /var/www/play/data/resources/customer-bm/destination-teste/ --password-file /var/www/play/config/portal/rsync.pwd"
[16:19] <osmosis_paul> any idea what is the issue\
[16:19] <Pici> osmosis_paul: you have two colons between the ip and the path.
[16:19] <arch> osmosis_paul is the remote path right.
[16:20] <titanes> how to check mdm5 from the file against the whole ISO when the LiveCD is running?
[16:20] <titanes> I can't go file by file by hand.
[16:21] <ffk27> md5sum /dev/cdrom
[16:21] <osmosis_paul> arch, yes
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> titanes: which file is "the file"?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> titanes  i think Caifas has a similar issue
[16:21] <Benkinooby2> blast007,  where can i seek for further help.... i can't find any specific ati or s3tc related channel... and google didn't get me on either
[16:21] <osmosis_paul> Pici, what do you mean?
[16:22] <titanes> ActionParsnip: THIS FILE /media/cdrom/md5sum.txt
[16:22] <osmosis_paul> Pici, the :: after the ip?
[16:23] <Pici> osmosis_paul: "portaluser@10.0.0.55::portal"  there should only be one colon, and you should be sure that the path you're giving there is correct, as I believe  that would be processed as being relative to the home for portaluser.
[16:23] <Sona_> hi
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> titanes: you can run:   cd /media/cdrom; md5sum -c md5sum.txt
[16:23] <titanes> ActionParsnip: and for verbose?
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> titanes: you can even use: md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -v "OK$"     and it will only output if a file is BAD
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> titanes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> titanes: how do you mean, the first command I gave will show the success of EVERY file checked
[16:24] <kaushik_> hello
[16:24] <kaushik_> all
[16:24] <Caifas> i could generate my md5sum.txt with sudo find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sudo md5sum | sudo tee md5sum.txt
[16:25] <osmosis_paul> Pici, but this is the whole patg
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> hi kaushik_
[16:25] <osmosis_paul> Pici, the whole path portaluser@10.0.0.55::portal/resources/customer-bm/destination-testte/
[16:25] <kaushik_> can anyone please help me set up GIT from ubuntu
[16:25] <kaushik_> i wish to upload all my code into GIT
[16:25] <Andsim-grid> hello i need help to get my web server on my server to read my php in /var/www . i am on ubuntu 10.04 lts
[16:25] <kaushik_> hi ActionParsnip
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> Caifas  creative solution :D
[16:26] <Caifas> ty :D
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Andsim-grid: does the file download instead of being processed?
[16:26] <titanes> everything is OK
[16:26] <and> nado
[16:26] <kaushik_> ActionParsnip, i am trying to add my code which is present in ubuntu to GIT
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> titanes: thecommands I gave were straight copied from that link...
[16:26] <kaushik_> i am facing
[16:26] <kaushik_> some problems
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> kaushik_: Ive never used git, sorry
[16:26] <Andsim-grid> no but displaying default page
[16:26] <kaushik_> oh ok thanks a lot ActionParsnip
[16:27] <Gnea> osmosis_paul: : <-- that is a colon
[16:28] <bitpimp> I am having issues connecting an external monitor in 11.10; the error is 'The selected configuration for displays could not be applied - requested position/size for ... is outside the allowed limit: ... '; it mirrors, but does not allow for an extended monitor.  Where do I start?
[16:28] <Chotaz`w> Can anyone help me setup vnc server on ubuntu?
[16:28] <Benkinooby> Gnea, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colon_%28anatomy%29 :P
[16:28] <tdowg1> ew
[16:28] <Gnea> !ot | Benkinooby
[16:28] <tdowg1> :)
[16:28] <arch> Dumped Ubuntu for Debian with xfce when I saw Unity a while back. Any news if 12.04 is going to allow the DE to be customized. Same goes for the wm.
[16:29] <Andsim-grid> ActionParsnip: no but displaying default page
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> arch: there is a PPA to move it to the bottom, there is myunity which allows tweaking
[16:29] <auronandace> arch: i'd stick with xfce if i were you
[16:30] <Humbedooh> good old mousy :>
[16:30] <i_is_broke> i went with kubuntu with lxde to get away from unity.
[16:30] <oCean> arch: 12.04 discussion is in #ubuntu+1 channel
[16:30] <auronandace> i_is_broke: kubuntu uses kde, lubuntu uses lxde
[16:31] <wrektjet> wow i found the way to get the menus off the top of unity and back in the windows! anyone want the command?
[16:31] <caotic_> Hello there. I am trying bring up an sks server, however the package that apt-get brought along required me to manually create a /var/run/sks  directory to work. I am wondering do apt-get packages have readme files ? if so, is there a location where they are suppose to save it  ?
[16:31] <Andsim-grid> ActionParsnip: no but displaying default page
[16:31] <bitpimp> How do I determine what monitor drivers I am using?
[16:31] <bitpimp> *graphics card drivers
[16:31] <i_is_broke> auronandace, yeah and they have different basis as well then gnome duh. but i lxde as my main wm.
[16:31] <osmosis_paul> Gnea, thanks I'm spanish and I just comeback of my holidays XD!, now I'm receiving this "The --password-file option may only be used when accessing an rsync daemon"
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Andsim-grid: I have no idea, I don't use the technology but your replies may help others help you
[16:32] <osmosis_paul> Pici, any idea why Is complaining now about the password file? "The --password-file option may only be used when accessing an rsync daemon" I'm using a demon
[16:33] <auronandace> i_is_broke: when you said you use kubuntu with lxde i thought you meant that you installed kubuntu and then apt-get'd lxde (without being aware of lubuntu)
[16:33] <arch> auronandace yeah when I hear ppa stuff turn off. As of now its xfce as a DE, LXDM for a dm, Compiz for composite and Emerald ad a wm decorator. Thx for the heads up about 12.04
[16:33] <wrektjet> ok guys is theer a way to figure out whatthe command to run something via terminal is? i would like to have a program added to the startup applications folder and i wpuld like to know the proper command
[16:34] <i_is_broke> auronandace, adds to many deps.
[16:34] <auronandace> arch: i don't use ppas
[16:35] <Pici> osmosis_paul: are you sure you're running the rsync daemon? Its not the same thing as running the rsync command.
[16:35] <curran> Can anyone tell me how to remove a statup application I added that is no longer there?  I added the canberra-gtk-play GNOME Login and Logout entries (custom) and now I think it might be messing up my sound.  I have systems sounds but no playback.
[16:36] <osmosis_paul> Pici, the port is reachable when I do a telnet
[16:36] <jutnux> curran: What verison of Ubuntu?
[16:36] <jutnux> s/verison/version
[16:36] <Pici> osmosis_paul: Having ssh running is not the same thing as having the rsync daemon running.
[16:37] <curran> 10.04
[16:37] <arch> auronandace the lame ppa system is why I moved to Debian with the testing repos. Ubuntu uses sid (unstable repos). Result is a rolling disto and the newest reliable wares.
[16:37] <osmosis_paul> well I mean that the port of deamon is listening
[16:37] <Gnea> osmosis_paul: okay, well as Pici pointed out, you only need one : in the path, not 2 :'s
[16:37] <osmosis_paul> Gnea, I already did and now I have the other issue of the password
[16:37] <curran> I know it is still in effect because the GNOME Logout entry is still there, and the sound is played when I also login.
[16:37] <Gnea> osmosis_paul: oh okay :)
[16:38] <arch> Nej du är ju böggg!
[16:38] <DJones> whois arch
[16:39] <Benkinooby> hm, i can't kill a proces :/
[16:40] <Benkinooby> what can i do when kill, sudo kill and killall do not work?
[16:40] <auronandace> Benkinooby: kill -9
[16:41] <Benkinooby> auronandace, that worked. thank you
[16:41] <auronandace> Benkinooby: what did you kill?
[16:41] <curran> Anyone...  Sound being initiated by system instead of user maybe?
[16:41] <Benkinooby> auronandace, a game, that's all
[16:44] <wrektjet> guys i have found a bunch of apps/programs that would work for me but manually starting them every time i reboot is crazy. how can i determine the correct command so i can add them to my startup applications?
[16:49] <jjp_> hello?
[16:50] <mneptok> .... ..
[16:51] <eNabil> i'm using ubuntu 11.10, graphics card nvidia go 7200, nvidia-current proprietary driver installed, i cannot use unity, i can only login into 2d, someone help me to fix this...
[16:52] <jjp_> Hello, where would I go for newbie help with Ubuntu?
[16:52] <jjp_> please
[16:52] <DJones> jjp_: You're in the right place
[16:52] <DJones> !ask | jjp_
[16:52] <jjp_> oh great!
[16:52] <arch> jjp_ this is about as low as it gets =P
[16:53] <kaddouri> hey
[16:53] <eNabil> jjp: linuxnewbieguide.org
[16:53] <eNabil> lol
[16:53] <kaddouri> i need some help
[16:53] <jjp_> Well I am newly joined of the Ubuntu community here, just switched over last week and very impressed
[16:53] <eNabil> kaddouri, dont waste buffer space typing u need help, type ur query immediately
[16:53] <kaddouri> i have installed ubuntu and all the updates
[16:53] <kaddouri> nabil, i am busy typing
[16:54] <eNabil> kaddouri, this is not msn, put your query all in one line
[16:54] <kaddouri> but in the softwarecenter there aren't any apps
[16:54] <jjp_> I am trying to figure out how to access my Windows drives and files from dialogs in some apps, like programs that let you browse to a folder with graphics to use them. My graphics are all in my windows locations and the program doesn't let me go to those.
[16:55] <eNabil> jjp, are you familiar with fstab
[16:55] <jjp_> no I am not
[16:55] <eNabil> jjp,  pastebin the mount command
[16:55] <eNabil> jjp,  are you familiar pastebin and terminal?
[16:56] <jjp_> the drives are mounted in the basic Files app that comes with Ubuntu, they're listed, but they're not listed in other programs.
[16:56] <krish> hi, when in apt-get I say keep maintainers version of configuration, where is that info stored
[16:56] <krish> because I dont get that option second time
[16:56] <jjp_> No i do not undertand pastebin the mount command
[16:56] <raido> anyone know how to use rsync to update only the file mtimes on a dir where the destination mtimes are all newer than the source? or another way?
[16:56] <pr0d> Hi all, Im having difficulties mounting my NFS share on boot, using /etc/fstab and _netdev and i still cant get it to mount
[16:57] <RaTTuS|BIG> jjp_ sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[16:57] <eNabil> jjp: man im gonna pull my hands out of this one, i have too much pressure to teach you, advice google: pastebin and also google fstab
[16:57] <pr0d> mount -a works fine once ive booted
[16:57] <kaddouri> hey, can someone help me?
[16:57] <jjp_> pastebin and fstab
[16:57] <eNabil> kaddouri, lol you wont get help like that
[16:57] <eNabil> kaddouri, i already told you how to do it
[16:58] <jjp_> those are what i need to focus on to get my drives fully listed for all ubuntu?
[16:58] <raido> pr0d: are you using the "auto" directive in the fstab
[16:58] <eNabil> jjp_, no its fstab
[16:58] <RaTTuS|BIG> jjp_ cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit
[16:58] <RaTTuS|BIG> eeek .. /me gone - too late
[16:58] <eNabil> 1598 online but no one can solve this: using ubuntu 11.10, graphics card nvidia go 7200, nvidia-current proprietary driver installed, i cannot use unity, i can only login into 2d, someone help me to fix this...
[16:59] <jjp_> alright I will see what I can figure out, I recognize the etc folder, but I don't comprehend fstab and pastebinit
[16:59] <pr0d> this is my muddle of many guides, not sure how accurate it is now after so much fiddling, 192.168.1.1:/xen/images /xen/images nfs rw,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,intr,async,_netdev
[16:59] <RaTTuS|BIG> !notunity
[16:59] <krish> anyone knows apt-get inside out?
[16:59] <titanes> so basically ubuntu is un-installable
[16:59] <valerie> I need to connect two LANs using VPN.  What would be the best, most open  implementation of VPN, which has also some GUI to manage it (web or desktop app) ?
[16:59] <krish> or inside backwards
[16:59] <krish> :)
[17:00] <eNabil> RaTTuS|BIG, thats for me :S ?
[17:00] <kaddouri> nabil, i can't find you telling me how to solve it
[17:00] <eNabil> kaddouri, solve what
[17:00] <kaddouri> my problem
[17:00] <eNabil> kaddouri, where si your question?
[17:00] <kaddouri> above hahaha
[17:00] <krish> titanes: you can go back to barebone gnome
[17:00] <eNabil> kaddouri, its out of the buffer, paste it in again...
[17:00] <kaddouri> ok, wait
[17:01] <titanes> krish: how to do a command line install??
[17:01] <kaddouri> i have installed ubuntu and the updates, but in my softwarecenter there aren't any apps
[17:01] <eNabil> kaddouri, dirrect your message to me by typing enabil
[17:01] <kupo_> how would I remove 11.10 Ubuntu and keep 10.04?
[17:01] <kaddouri> enabil i have installed ubuntu and the updates, but in my softwarecenter there aren't any apps
[17:01] <pr0d> raido: this is my muddle of many guides, not sure how accurate it is now after so much fiddling, 192.168.1.1:/xen/images /xen/images nfs rw,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,intr,async,_netdev
[17:01] <eNabil> kaddouri, thank you :) press the windows key and type software sources
[17:02] <eNabil> i'm using ubuntu 11.10, graphics card nvidia go 7200, nvidia-current proprietary driver installed, i cannot use unity, i can only login into 2d, someone help me to fix this...
[17:02] <titanes> krish: what do you mean by that? I am on LiveUSB kubuntu
[17:02] <kaddouri> enabil, i am not in windows
[17:02] <krish> titanes: what?
[17:02] <aeon-ltd> kupo_: is this dual boot?
[17:02] <krish> oh ok
[17:02] <krish> heh sorry didnt know that
[17:02] <eNabil> kupo_, downgrade you mean ?
[17:02] <krish> im saying if u have kubuntu installed, but you wanted to go to puregnome
[17:02] <krish> u can do that
[17:02] <titanes> I have a question, WHAT DOES THE 'CONFIGURING HARDWARE' STAGE DO??
[17:02] <eNabil> kaddouri, are you using ubuntu 11 ?
[17:03] <titanes> is the install bootable if that step fails?
[17:03] <kaddouri> enabil, no 10
[17:03] <krish> guys anyone help me with apt-get
[17:03] <titanes> because it seems that everything is installed.
[17:03] <aeon-ltd> krish: ask the channel, don't ask to ask
[17:03] <eNabil> kaddouri, do you have the menu bar on the left :S xP
[17:03] <cypher-neo> krish, What can I help you with?
[17:03] <kaddouri> enabil, no
[17:03] <raido> pr0d: Add "auto" the the last section of that line in fstab
[17:03] <kupo_> uhh
[17:04] <kupo_> I have both on my comp and wanna keep 10.04
[17:04] <krish> cypher-neo: im doing a apt-get install puppet
[17:04] <ThePendulum> All my greetings are belong to you
[17:04] <eNabil> kaddouri, goto software sources under preferences or administration
[17:04] <kupo_> along with w7
[17:04] <krish> and I already have puppet.conf in /etc/puppet
[17:04] <kupo_> im doing a triple boot i think
[17:04] <ThePendulum> Is there a way to display a notification as soon as I try to log off/shut down my PC with Ubuntu 11.04?
[17:04] <eNabil> i'm using ubuntu 11.10, graphics card nvidia go 7200, nvidia-current proprietary driver installed, i cannot use unity, i can only login into 2d, someone help me to fix this...
[17:04] <krish> so it presents me with option to either take maintainers version or with my version
[17:04] <eNabil> 1600 ppl here suck
[17:04] <titanes> what about my question??
[17:05] <ThePendulum> *A custom notification, that is
[17:05] <happyface> is bumblebee still the best solution for NVIDIA Optimus laptops?
[17:05] <krish> how can i over write this on command line itself
[17:05] <eNabil> 1601 now :P
[17:05] <krish> cypher-neo: ^
[17:05] <eNabil> i'm using ubuntu 11.10, graphics card nvidia go 7200, nvidia-current proprietary driver installed, i cannot use unity, i can only login into 2d, someone help me to fix this...
[17:05] <kupo_> I need to eat so... brb
[17:06] <krish> cypher-neo: im doing a apt-get install puppet.  and I already have puppet.conf in /etc/puppet. so it presents me with option to either take maintainers version or with my version. how can i over write this on command line itself
[17:06] <eNabil> kupo_, lol you do that :P
[17:06] <aeon-ltd> kupo_: if grub is separate or on the 10.04 then you can just delete the 11.10 partition(s), then it should work as normal as long as grub is intact
[17:06] <cypher-neo> krish, If you're using apt-get install puppet it defaults to the highest version available.
[17:07] <krish> cypher-neo: its not the version issue
[17:07] <eNabil> kaddouri, hurry coz im out in 5
[17:07] <jjp_> AHA. I have found my drives under my Media folder. Is that where they should be?
[17:07] <eNabil> kaddouri, u took to long, gud luck
[17:07] <krish> cypher-neo: if I already have the config file in /etc/puppet , it will ask me either to take maintainers version or not
[17:08] <kaddouri> enabil, and than
[17:08] <kaddouri> ?
[17:08] <krish> cypher-neo: i dont want user to wait for that option, rather specify it in apt-get itself
[17:08] <krish> cypher-neo: on the command line itself.. any help
[17:08] <cypher-neo> krish, One second, my internet is being stupid right now...
[17:09] <FattyMcgee> Hi all.  I have a problem with swap usage.  4GB RAM, 3.5 in use as cache, but 3GB/3GB Swap is in use, toggling top to sort by memory shows the highest mem-usage process is using only .4%.  Very vanilla xubuntu11.10 install.  I even switched vm.swappiness=0.   Any ideas why this box keeps sucking up swap space so much?
[17:10] <jjp_> does anyone know why VPN icons appear in unrelated places, like with Notes or other programs, and when I click on them, a new set of up and down arrow icons appear, and I can't get rid of them?
[17:11] <cypher-neo> krish, Have you tried invoking the program directly "puppet --help" to see if you can call the version at startup that way?
[17:11] <tH14g0>  hello everyone, anyone XORP already configured to perform multicast forward by a gre tunnel?
[17:12] <krish> cypher-neo: what would I achieve with that? :)
[17:12] <jjp_> well thanks, i think i got what i needed
[17:12] <pr0d> raido: tryed that, still no luck. Does it matter that my network is built on bridges?
[17:13] <ansaralsunnah> hi
[17:13] <raido> no, if you can mountall ant it mounts then thats fine.
[17:13] <ansaralsunnah> how i can flood pliz
[17:13] <raido> pr0d: if you can mountall ant it mounts then thats fine.
[17:14] <pr0d> raido: I just dont get it, its drivin me nuts
[17:14] <fat_rat> ansaralsunnah: press alt+F4
[17:14] <raido> pr0d: source /dest nfs     user,rw,sync,noauto,hard,intr,rsize=4096,wsize=4096     0       0
[17:15] <raido> pr0d: but instead of noauto, use auto
[17:15] <cypher-neo> krish, Let me clarify what you're trying to do. You want to install puppet from a particular source automatically at startup?
[17:15] <cypher-neo> krish, Using apt-get
[17:16] <cypher-neo> krish, Otherwise it gives you an option between 2 different versions?
[17:16] <raido> pr0d: so you last section on that line will look like this "user,rw,sync,auto,hard,intr,rsize=4096,wsize=4096     0       0"
[17:17] <pr0d> raido: rebooting now
[17:18] <pr0d> raido: still no luck
[17:19] <raido> pr0d: well, does mount -a work with those settings?
[17:19] <pr0d> raido: mount -a works perfectly
[17:19] <pr0d> raido: thats why im so stumped
[17:20] <kenperkins> can anyone recommend a monitoring/notification tool that's NOT nagios?
[17:20] <pr0d> raido: i was under the impression that _netdev would be the fix if mount -a works. I just dont understand it
[17:21] <raido> pr0d: do sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:21] <raido> pr0d: then do "cat /etc/fstab | pastebinit" and post the link it gives you here
[17:22] <mksogdne> how i can search for wireless network by wi-fi ?
[17:22] <kupo_> ok, so... if I were to remove my 11.10 version and stick with 10.04 while keeping Windows 7, I'd only need to remove my 11.10 partition?
[17:22] <pr0d> raido: http://pastebin.com/MgjN8eB4
[17:23] <kyentei> kupo_: And reinstall the MS Windows bootloader.
[17:23] <kyentei> kupo_: Using the Windows install CD.
[17:23] <kyentei> kupo_: Or rather, DVD.
[17:23] <kupo_> and then how would the ms bootloader pick up ubuntu?
[17:24] <kyentei> kupo_: It wouldn't, but you're removing ubuntu anyway.
[17:24] <ansaralsunnah> allah akbar
[17:24] <ansaralsunnah> how ned help
[17:24] <ansaralsunnah> ?
[17:24] <kupo_> oh, but I wanted to keep 10.04 also
[17:24] <raido> pr0d: Ok, that looks fine, now add the _netdev to the end, before "0 0"
[17:24] <kupo_> not remove completely
[17:25] <ansaralsunnah> t
[17:25] <kyentei> kupo_: Oh, right! I misread "stick", thought you were speaking of an usb-stick
[17:25] <kupo_> lol
[17:25] <kyentei> kupo_: Then, install your bootloader using 10.04 before you remove 11.10
[17:25] <pr0d> radio: rebooting
[17:25] <pr0d> lol typo
[17:25] <kupo_> I believe I did
[17:25] <aeon-ltd> kupo_: you don't use the ms bootloader, use grub for anything linux + x
[17:26] <kupo_> ik
[17:26] <raido> pr0d: However, I think your problem is that the network services are not loaded before your fstab is loaded (obviously). So, this is what netdev is supposed to fix by making it wait for networking. But its not doing its job
[17:26] <kyentei> kupo_: You can just remove your 11.10 partition after that. Since the bootloader is set for 1.04
[17:26] <kupo_> ok thnx
[17:26] <kyentei> kupo_: 10.04 *
[17:26] <pr0d> raido: thats definitely what it seems like
[17:26] <raido> pr0d: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/384347
[17:27] <kyentei> kupo_: AFter you've done that, you will still see 11.10 in your GRUB, since it was there when you installed it using ubuntu 10.04. Just update your grub again after that, and it'll be completely gone.
[17:27] <raido> pr0d: are you using a GUI on this box?
[17:27] <pr0d> the server is GUI, the client is a cli xen-server
[17:27] <kupo_> sudo apt-get update grub?
[17:27] <dimas_> how i do this? "lock the installed version in Synaptic"
[17:28] <kupo_> or something
[17:28] <mksogdne> how i can search for wireless network by wi-fi ?
[17:28] <llutz> mksogdne: iwlist s
[17:28] <kyentei> kupo_: No. update-grub and then grub-install /dev/sdX (where X is your current partition, ususally sda)
[17:28] <kupo_> ah, k
[17:28] <raido> pr0d: well, either way, you can make a crude fix by running a post start script to execute the mount
[17:28] <kyentei> kupo_: so: "sudo update grub" and "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[17:28] <kyentei> kupo_: so: "sudo update-grub" and "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[17:29] <kupo_> ok
[17:29] <kyentei> kupo_: Note the little line between upgrade and grub ^_^
[17:29] <kupo_> ye lol
[17:29] <pr0d> raido: rc.local?
[17:29] <kupo_> ok, brb
[17:29] <mksogdne> Interface doesn't support scanning.
[17:29] <kupo_> gonna go do that
[17:30] <dimas_> kyentei, how i do this? "lock the installed version in Synaptic"
[17:30] <raido> pr0d: sure
[17:30] <kyentei> dimas_: I have no idea what that error message even implies.
[17:31] <kyentei> dimas_: What are you trying to do?
[17:31] <dimas_> kyentei, i just going to install an old version of a program and lock it in synaptic
[17:31] <dimas_> but i dont know how to lock it
[17:32] <mksogdne> how i can search for wireless network by wi-fi ?
[17:32] <kyentei> dimas_: I have no idea.
[17:32] <dimas_> thanks
[17:32] <kupo_> oh ya, should I use gparted to remove the 11.10 partition, or what?
[17:32] <kyentei> kupo_: Anything you prefer. gparted is fine.
[17:32] <kupo_> ok
[17:33] <raido> pr0d: or in /etc/rc3.d/ or /etc/rc4.d/
[17:33] <kingfisher64> can anybody tell me how to install adobe cs3 using wine or wine tricks? i've been trying/researching this most of the day. This is the last major thing i need to do to make the transition from win7 to ubuntu. many thanks
[17:33] <EvilResistance> kingfisher64:  check the wine app db for compatibility
[17:33] <pr0d> raido: now im ultra-confused, rc.local: mount -t nfs 192.168.1.1:/xen/images /xen/images. still no mount on boot :S
[17:33] <EvilResistance> !wine
[17:34] <mksogdne> how i can search for wireless network by wi-fi ?
[17:34] <pr0d> works fine in terminal
[17:34] <EvilResistance> !repeat | mksogdne
[17:34] <tokam> hi,  I run this by a crontab "sudo -u www-data -g psaserv /var/www/vhosts/someproject.de/httpdocs/cronjobs/cronjob"
[17:34] <tokam> I get the following error: No entry for terminal type "unknown";
[17:34] <tokam> using dumb terminal settings.
[17:35] <tokam> how to fix that?
[17:35] <mksogdne> thanks
[17:35] <raido> pr0d: pit it in /etc/rc3.d/
[17:35] <kingfisher64> EvilResistance - yep i've looked. I can't find the specific cs3 match however it mentions photoshop, illustrator cs3 (which is just part of the install)
[17:36] <flintwingel> mksogdne: kismet will let you scan for wifi networks
[17:36] <EvilResistance> kingfisher64:  then assume it hasnt been tested.  also assume they might have "garbage" ratings.
[17:36] <pr0d> raido: cant remember the process of adding somethin there. could you please provide me an example?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> mksogdne: sudo iwlist scan
[17:36] <kupo_> I'm trying to figure out which partition is my ubuntu 11.10 install now and I can't rlly tell...
[17:36] <kupo_> can I screeny?
[17:36] <raido> pr0d: just place the script file in that dir
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> kupo_: mount; sudo parted -l
[17:37] <raido> pr0d: make sure its executable
[17:38] <pr0d> raido: ok, made a new file with the command. making +x now
[17:38] <EvilResistance> kingfisher64:  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?bIsQueue=false&bIsRejected=false&sClass=vendor&iId=12&sAction=view&sTitle=View+Developer
[17:38] <kupo_> ok, I did that
[17:38] <EvilResistance> kingfisher64:  all the CS3 things are listed as garbage.  i think you're SOL
[17:38] <kupo_> now what
[17:39] <kingfisher64> EvilResistance - is there no way to run it from the command line? I click on the cd and run with wine and it appears to crash. However installing photoshop, illustrator cs3 can be done. All cs3 is - is a collection of apps including these two which have been labelled as "silver" for photoshop and illustrator is "garbage"
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> kupo_: read
[17:39] <kupo_> ya I am now
[17:39] <kupo_> lol
[17:40] <EvilResistance> kingfisher64:  *ALL* the CS3 applications are listed as garbage in the current release(s) of wine.  i don't think you can get that all to work
[17:40] <EvilResistance> short of photoshop
[17:41] <pr0d> raido: still no joy, somethin just isnt right
[17:42] <LucidGuy> I have an ubuntu 11.10 server that randomly crashes.  Logs are of no use due to kernel panic.  Is there anyway I can properly log hard kernel-panic crashes?
[17:42] <kingfisher64> EvilResistance - oh no, I really need those 2 apps. I used to use dreamweaver then notepad++ now blufish. I don't mind comprimising on most software but illustrator, photoshop is a must. I suppose i could install virtualbox and run them in there as a last resort. Would that enable me to be able to save to ubuntu's file system direct? I'm not how that would work.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: is the ram healthy?
[17:42] <LucidGuy> ActionParsnip, According to memtest .. yes
[17:43] <AndroidLoverInSF> anyone successfully upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 where ubuntu is on an encrypted partition
[17:43] <pr0d> raido: moved it to rc4.d rebooting
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: cool, good first test
[17:44] <LucidGuy> ActionParsnip, I have a funny feeling its the CPU...
[17:44] <urlin2u> AndroidLoverInSF, your going to let what you get make that decision for you?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: what service(s) do(es) the server run?
[17:44] <AndroidLoverInSF> the boot partition is unencrypted but the / is encrypted, safe?
[17:44] <flintwingel> kingfisher64: virtualbox gives you the option of a shared folder between host & guest. It looks like a network share from inside WIndows
[17:45] <AndroidLoverInSF> maybe doesn't hurt to get info, opinion
[17:45] <LucidGuy> ActionParsnip, I appreciate your interest in troubleshooting, but I simply need to know if there is a way to capture kernel panics
[17:45] <urlin2u> AndroidLoverInSF,  lol this cannel is not for polling but support.
[17:45] <urlin2u> channel
[17:45] <pr0d> raido: rc4.d and still not mounting on boot
[17:45] <talntid> anyone know of any tools that can compare a current ubuntu install, to a base ubuntu install, and display the differences?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> LucidGuy: try in /var/log/dmesg.0    I believe it is the dmesg from the previous boot
[17:46] <raido> pr0d: are these VMs on the same box or do you have more that one machine
[17:46] <trirnoth> Hello all. Looking for a program that would open all programs I choose at the location (both workspace and position) when logging in. I rarely reboot, but when I do it takes me too long to manually open/ position everything the way I like.
[17:46] <kingfisher64> flintwingel - right I just need to save the files direct into the website i'm working on folder. Sometimes that might mean a remote server. Do you know if it would do that? I assume it would if it's mounted
[17:46] <LucidGuy> ActionParsnip, Looked around .. no luck.  I think I have to somehow mount a tty to a serial connection on another server.  This way I can scroll through the last kernel panic.
[17:47] <mksogdne> how i can change the  11.10 appearence to 8.10 ?
[17:47] <trirnoth> currently running 11.04 (will upgrade some day on a slow day).
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> mksogdne: which DE?
[17:47] <raido> pr0d: i.e. Are you mounting a FS on a VM that is on the same physical box as the destination dir for the mount?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> mksogdne: if you mean Gnome desktop then this will help
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> mksogdne: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[17:49] <elisa87> I receive this error $ MPEG7Fex CSD 64 imageList.txt CSD.txtMPEG7Fex: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.9' not found (required by MPEG7Fex)
[17:49] <elisa87> what should I do?
[17:49] <flintwingel> kingfisher64: I've not tried sharing a folder that's networked from the hosts POV but a Windows guest can have full access to the network so can upload wherever is required and supported by the apps you're using
[17:49] <raido> pr0d: because, this may be an issue of xen not meing ready rather that networking not being ready
[17:49] <mksogdne> i had install gnome shell but it is gnome 3
[17:49] <elisa87> I do not have root access and I am not in the list of sudoers
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> mksogdne: you can use XFCE in Oneiric and it will look the same as it did in Intrepid using XFCE
[17:50] <mksogdne> XFCE looks boring !
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> elisa87: are you in the admin group
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> mksogdne: so you are using Gnome?
[17:50] <vinny> xubuntu is reallly nice
[17:50] <pr0d> raido: I am mounting the nfs share to Dom0. which then shares my xen images
[17:51] <carloswherbet> hi
[17:51] <LucidGuy> im off
[17:51] <dwi_> ?
[17:51] <mksogdne> no buddy i am using ubuntu  and i had only install gnome shell fro usc
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> mksogdne: that will use Gnome as the desktop, Gnome shell (as the name says) is only a shell
[17:52] <dwi_> How i can joint a channel?
[17:52] <coriapolis> you need papers to joint a channel
[17:52] <kupo_> yay, removal worked
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> dwi_: /join #channame
[17:52] <Arcademan> May I ask where I could find Ubuntu for Arm devices :)
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> !arm
[17:53] <pr0d> raido: so i have 2 xen machines. machine 1 has xen but its prim function is a home file server and router/gateway. Machine 2 also has xen which gets its xen images from machine 1.
[17:53] <dwi_> thanks Actionparship
[17:53] <Arcademan> ty ActionParsnip
[17:53] <raido> pr0d: well, at this point, I suspect that ist not a network timing issue, its a xen timing issue
[17:54] <mksogdne> than how i can chnage that !
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> mksogdne: the how to shows how to make gnome3 look like gnome2
[17:54] <dwi_> How can i see another channel?
[17:55] <pr0d> raido: I cant see how this problem can be related to xen as I am not mounting to a VM, but ill take your word for it.
[17:55] <aeon-ltd> dwi_: in irc?
[17:56] <dwi_> in XChat-GNOME IRC Chat
[17:56] <recharge> i have installed gtkpod for my ubuntu 11.10 and i am trying to find a way to use my iphone with my ubuntu.. especially i want music files to be moved from computer to my iphone.. i can see folders in the program gtkpod but i dont know how to get my music there.. please help
[17:56] <aeon-ltd> dwi_: first you must join a new channel
[17:57] <coreGrl> hi
[17:57] <dwi_> aeon: Thanks you
[17:57] <lduros> hello, I'm connected to an ubuntu laptop through ssh, I want to open something in the current X sessions that is opened on the laptop (which is running unity) -- I forgot how to do that from the command line, any idea?
[17:57] <aeon-ltd> dwi_: /join #nameofnewchannel ; then switching to it is dependent on the client
[17:57] <coreGrl> I've installed 11.10 but I'm lost..I've an nvidia grafic card but it doesn't seems that the system works with it how can I check that? unity drive me crazy
[17:58] <raido> pr0d: 192.168.1.1 is running when you reboot machine 2?
[17:58] <dwi_> can i send private message?
[17:58] <aeon-ltd> dwi_: why?
[17:58] <pr0d> raido: ofcourse :)
[17:58] <longcat> hello
[17:58] <mmoebius> coreGrl: Welcome to the "new" Ubuntu. concerning that propblem, send a "thank you for unity" email to canonical ;-P
[17:59] <coreGrl> :)
[17:59] <mmoebius> coreGrl: Do you have any graphics at all ? or text-mode only ?
[17:59] <longcat> how do i get rid of the mic/volume icons in the gnome panel system-tray thing?  It seems i can only remove the whole tray from panel or have to live with all of them
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> coreGrl: you don't have to use unity
[17:59] <talntid> anyone know of any tools that can compare a current ubuntu install, to a base ubuntu install, and display the differences between the 2? (like installed software, modified files, etc)
[17:59] <recharge> i have installed gtkpod for my ubuntu 11.10 and i am trying to find a way to use my iphone with my ubuntu.. especially i want music files to be moved from computer to my iphone.. i can see folders in the program gtkpod but i dont know how to get my music there.. please help
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> talntid: diff
[18:00] <raido> pr0d: you mentioned bridging, is the bridging happening on machine 2
[18:00] <coreGrl> no unity starts, but for example if I run stellarium it says that my system doesn't support opengl..
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> coreGrl: did you install the proprietary driver? Whicg nvidia GPU do you use/
[18:00] <pr0d> raido: yes my prim eth is bridged.
[18:00] <raido> pr0d: bridget to VM's on machine 2?
[18:00] <mmoebius> coreGrl: Then, most likely you are missing the correct driver for your system. Have you ever seen a "Hardware/Proprietary Drivers" Popup ?
[18:01] <pr0d> ye the bridge is for the VMs to attach
[18:01] <coreGrl>  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GF106 [GeForce GT 555M]
[18:01] <coreGrl> yes and I enabled the nvidia module and now is green
[18:01] <coreGrl> it says that is in use
[18:01] <mmoebius> coreGrl: That is pretty decent and requires the nvidia drivers to be installed
[18:01] <mmoebius> Have you restarted the machine scince installing the nvidia driver ?
[18:02] <coreGrl> mmoebius, uhm I think they are installed, but I suppose isn't true
[18:02] <coreGrl> mmoebius, of course
[18:02] <raido> pr0d: then that must be what the delay is. And because its not strictly local the to machine performing the mount then _nodev may be ineffective
[18:02] <mmoebius> coreGrl: take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:03] <mmoebius> Reading quite a bit into the document, you shouid see the nvidia drivers's startup messages.
[18:03] <pr0d> raido: there is about a 10 sec delay for the bridge to be built on boot. But _netdev should work around that right?
[18:04] <raido> pr0d: I doubt it, because the network on that machine is running by then, even though the bridge is not
[18:04] <coreGrl>  (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) doh...
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> coreGrl: try adding the xorg edgers updates ppa (less fresh) and you will get the later driver which your super new hardware will need
[18:04] <rcmaehl> Quick question: how do I format a drive in linux with a custom allocation unit size
[18:04] <pr0d> raido: i did try to post-up in /etc/net.../inter..
[18:05] <coreGrl> ActionParsnip, any doc about that?
[18:05] <raido> pr0d: so you will need a script that checks to see if the mount exists and if it does not then to create it.
[18:05] <mmoebius> coreGrl: There you have it.  Does 'dpkg -l *nvidia* '  list the (more recent) drivers ?
[18:05] <pr0d> raido: which left me with a slow booting machine and still no mnount
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> coreGrl: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:05] <coreGrl> nvidia-common  1:0.2.35       Find obsolete NVIDIA drivers uhm... so nasty this descriptions
[18:06] <raido> pr0d: I know nothing about xen but Im sure you ruled out netdev as a possible fix. And im void of any other ideas. Good luck.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> coreGrl: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> coreGrl: it's working here (reminded me to do it ono my own box)
[18:07] <pr0d> radio: Im am very greatfull for your time! But yes i think its time for me to head over to ##xen and pick their brains
[18:07] <pr0d> raido: lol
[18:07] <raido> pr0d: cheers
[18:07] <pr0d> raido: again tyvm :)
[18:08] <coreGrl> I think it's time to reboot :)
[18:09] <coreGrl> tank you guys I'll try to reboot
[18:10] <xtreamer> um...hi
[18:11] <xtreamer> i have ubuntu 11.10 and so when viewing  youtube videos , the video is verry laggy and i don't know the reason for that, if you have any idea on how to get rid of that lag i'd be happy:D
[18:12] <xtreamer> is anyone round here?
[18:12] <spartan2276> does anyone know how to reset the them say applied to the Gnome3 desktop session?
[18:12] <spartan2276> like is there a config file
[18:12] <xtreamer> the what?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[18:12] <xtreamer> ok
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: use a pastebin to host the output.
[18:13] <xtreamer> No LSB modules are available.
[18:13] <xtreamer> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[18:13] <xtreamer> Description:	Ubuntu 11.10
[18:13] <xtreamer> Release:	11.10
[18:13] <xtreamer> Codename:	oneiric
[18:13] <FloodBot1> xtreamer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <xtreamer> Linux ubuntu 3.0.0-14-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 21 20:28:43 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:13] <marel> how to open gedit from terminal and be able to use terminal while gedit is on
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> marel: gedit &
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: I said to use a pastebin.....
[18:14] <xtreamer> sorry;))
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: there is a reason
[18:14] <Soma250> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on a brand new ACER 5250 laptop and it won't detect any internet connections - neither wireless connections that my other laptops detect nor a direct ethernet connection - any ideas?
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Soma250: have you tried in an Oneiric liveCD?
[18:14] <Soma250> @actionparsnip which is what, exactly?
[18:15] <Pici> e/60
[18:15] <Soma251> t
[18:15] <xtreamer> ActionParsnip: do you think the videos are laggy because i'm using unity wich has 3d effects?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: possibly, usually its caused by other things
[18:15] <xtreamer> like
[18:16] <Soma250> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on a brand new ACER 5250 laptop and it won't detect any internet connections - neither wireless connections that my other laptops detect nor a direct ethernet connection - any ideas?
[18:16] <xtreamer> i'd like to solve this, if you could help me:)
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: conflicting plugins, wrong arch of flash. Do you have the pastebin??
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: yes, I asked for the output of a command and you still haven't given it..
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Soma250: the latest stable release of ubuntu, some 2 years newer
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Soma250: the new kernel and drivers may make it work
[18:17] <xtreamer> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799662/
[18:17] <CreativeEmbassy> is there a different channel for ubuntu server?
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: yep, 64bit OS, 32bit flash
[18:18] <Soma251> @actionparsnip how do I install them without a functioning connection on the computer I am attempting to fix?
[18:18] <CreativeEmbassy> I had issues with a brand new ubuntu server install on an old dell poweredge server. I want to make sure I ask on the appropriate channel.
[18:18] <xtreamer> ActionParsnip: i'm using 32 bit os
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-downloader:i386 flashplugin-installer
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer:  x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux    from your output. Still think its 32bit>
[18:18] <aeon-ltd> CreativeEmbassy: there's a server channel #ubuntu-server
[18:19] <xtreamer> ActionParsnip: you mean i have 64 bit os? that's great.. do you know any way to downgrade to 32 bit
[18:19] <xtreamer> ActionParsnip: i don't need 64 bit
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: reinstall if you want 32bit OS
[18:19] <xtreamer> ActionParsnip: great....
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: if you enable the partner repo you can install adobe-installer and get 64bit flash
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: and it will be fine
[18:20] <Soma250> @actionparsnip The reason I installed 10.04 is because I had problems after installing 11.10: random crashes and lockups, often prompted by trying to access wireless connections
[18:20] <xtreamer> ActionParsnip: thanks, it's just that now i realised why was all laggy in ubuntu, because i'm using 64 bit os....
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: 64bit won't make any difference to laggy OS
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: you probably haven't setup 3D accel properly, try Unity2D
[18:21] <CreativeEmbassy> aeon-ltd: thank you!
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Soma250: what wireless chip does it use?
[18:21] <xtreamer> ActionParsnip: ok, so could you please tell me again how to get flash plugin 64 bit for my chromium browser?
[18:22] <eddy> hi
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> xtreamer: enable the partner repo then install adobe-flashplugin or adobe-installer   I forget the package name
[18:22] <bullgard6> I switched my Ubuntu computer on and immediately I received a notification of a jabber friend although I did not start a Jabber client explicitely. How to check if a jabber client is running?
[18:23] <EvilResistance> bullgard6:  are you using purple / empathy / pidgin?
[18:23] <EvilResistance> those usually start automatically
[18:23] <bullgard6> EvilResistance: Yes.
[18:23] <EvilResistance> bullgard6:  then i betcha it started itself automagically and initiated the connection
[18:24] <bullgard6> EvilResistance:  How to check if a jabber client is running?
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> bullgard6: ps -ef | egrep 'empathy|pidgin' | grep -v grep
[18:26] <Soma250> @actionparsnip Website says "Acer InviLink™ Nplify™ 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi CERTIFIED™" - Can't figure out, in my ignorance, how to double check this within Ubuntu 10.04 itself
[18:26] <llutz> bullgard6: lsof -i|grep xmpp
[18:26] <EvilResistance> bullgard6:  see ActionParsnip's statement
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Soma250: tells us nothing
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Soma250: what is the product line in the output of:  sudo lshw -C network
[18:27] <bullgard6> ActionParsnip, llutz: I will test thatin a minute  using your command. --  Thank you.
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Soma250: the manufacturers sites rarely state the full chip which is not very useful to smart people
[18:28] <Soma250> @actionparsnip Atheros AR8152
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Soma250: cool huh :)
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Soma250: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16953/need-wired-driver-for-an-atheros-ar8152
[18:32] <kingfisher64> oh that has put a spanner in the works. Just as it was looking like a easy transition from windows7 this happens. Does anybody know of another way to run adobe software in ubuntu - if not supported by wine and not in a virtual machine?
[18:32] <Soma250> @actionparsnip Thanks, will try out some of the solutions and see
[18:32] <dr_willis> kingfisher64:  run it on a real machine and use vnc? :) you have just about eliminated the normal ways to do it...
[18:33] <zorro747> hi
[18:33] <zorro747> I have to update my driver I think
[18:33] <semitones> how do you find out what color a font is in open office? THe color chooser just says "automatic"
[18:34] <folsto> I am trying to run unetbootin. But it asks for password. Even if I enter correct passsword it says incorrect password.
[18:34] <kingfisher64> dr_willis - ok what's vnc? I don't mind using "abnormal" ways of doing it!!!
[18:34] <folsto> I also tried "gksu unetbootin". Same thing.
[18:34] <folsto> I also updated the PPA to the one specifed in the website. And installed the new version. Same thing.
[18:34] <dr_willis> !vnc
[18:34] <dr_willis> kingfisher64:  you got a spare windows pc to run the apps on?
[18:35] <zorro747> I have this so far :) fixme:alsa:AudioClient_GetMixFormat Don't know what to do with 32 channels, pretending there's only 2 channels <kevlarman> your 32 bit libraries don't match the kernel module
[18:35] <kingfisher64> dr_willis - not at the mo
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> folsto: you use the password you log in with
[18:35] <folsto> Any suggestions? I need to copy a bootable iso to a usb. Are there any other tools which does similar function?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> folsto: are you in the admin group?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Soma250: now you know the chip, you can find guides
[18:36] <folsto> ActionParsnip:  How can I check that?
[18:36] <dr_willis> folsto:  dozens of tools at the pendrivelinux site. also it depends on which iso/disrto you are using.. ubuntu 11.10+ can use dd to put the iso image on a usb
[18:36] <squidly> I'm trying to install cacti on my server but I get this. "no type given for question at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 22, <GEN1> line 2." I cant remove or install cacti
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> folsto: run:   groups
[18:37] <kingfisher64> dr_willis - i really don't want to go back to windoze! I just need photoshop, illustrator to work.
[18:37] <folsto> ActionParsnip: Yes I am in admin group
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> folsto: you can even use dd to put the image on the USB as well ;)
[18:37] <folsto> I see I will man dd and try, thanks.
[18:37] <dr_willis> kingfisher64:  I dont use the app. i use gimp for my needs. you options are wine, a vm, or a real machine and use vnc or some other remote desktop
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> folsto: could try:   sudo -i    then run the command without sudo
[18:38] <kingfisher64> dr_willis - i've got windows on another partition on this machine. Is there anyway use it from that?
[18:38] <folsto> ActionParsnip: It cannot connect to X server : "(gksu:11841): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0   "
[18:39] <dr_willis> kingfisher64:  vbox can boot a 'real' hard drive. but that may trigger the windows copy protection
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> folsto: are you running it via ssh?
[18:40] <folsto> ActionParsnip: In terminal
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> folsto: i see, have you tried usb-creator
[18:41] <Escherial> hey, how would i go about adjusting the contrast/gamma/etc. of my laptop display? i realize this is accomplished in windows by proprietary drivers, but i'm hoping there's some other solution for linux...
[18:41] <Soma250> @actionparsnip no luck, following the steps on that link, I apparently need a functioning internet connection on the laptop w/ problems to successfully do the driver update
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: what GPU do you use/
[18:41] <Escherial> i'm using an integrated intel HD graphics adapter, if that helps at all...
[18:41] <folsto> ActionParsnip: I need to copy android-x86 iso, which I am unable to through usb-creator
[18:42] <xtreamer> ActionParsnip: I have downloaded the 64 flash plugin for firefox but i have no idea on how to install it , it's an arhive from the official adobe site
[18:42] <dr_willis> folsto:   the androud-x86 homepage may have guides on what tools to use. or try the pendrivelinux site.
[18:42] <dr_willis> folsto:  usb-creator i think is for ubuntu iso's only
[18:43] <dr_willis> folsto:  or just trry dd'ing the iso to a pendrive as a test.
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> folsto: can it be dd'd over?
[18:44] <morris> #ubuntu
[18:44] <dr_willis> folsto:  http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/embedded/hwsw/software/android-installation-guide
[18:44] <folsto> I am not sure if it can be dd'ed over, but surely I can try. I could use help for correct dd command
[18:45] <jenia> hello everyone
[18:45] <jenia> i want to flip the screen using xrandr
[18:45] <llutz> folsto: which device is your usb? /dev/sdX?
[18:45] <jenia> when i do it, the mouse axis does not get flipped
[18:45] <dr_willis> folsto:  that url gives directions  using a tool from pendrivelinux
[18:45] <jenia> so when i move the mouse left, the cursor moves right
[18:45] <folsto> llutz: /dev/sdc1
[18:46] <berend> o.O
[18:46] <jenia> does anyone know how to overcome this problem?
[18:46] <Guest57966> What problem?
[18:46] <jenia> when i use xrandr
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> jenia: what make and model is the mouse?
[18:46] <israel> !jenia which problem?
[18:47] <jenia> when i use xrandr to flip the screen
[18:47] <jenia> the mouse axis does not get flipped
[18:47] <folsto> dr_willis: It links to windows executable "Universal USB Installer". but I need to do in linux so I can copy the iso to *ext3* only usb drive
[18:47] <jenia> my mouse i part of the laptop
[18:47] <dr_willis> folsto:  the pendrivelinux site has directions and tools for linux as well..
[18:47] <jenia> its a lenovo X61
[18:47] <go8765> can i found some fresh .deb for  Instantbird ?
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> jenia: soits a touchpad, not a mouse
[18:47] <jenia> yes
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> jenia: so why say mouse?
[18:48] <hind> dd
[18:48] <jenia> i should have said a cursor ;)
[18:48] <israel> !help
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> (18:45:36) jenia: when i do it, the mouse axis does not get flipped
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> anyway, i'll have a search
[18:49] <jenia> yes exactly. but i need it to flip
[18:49] <llutz> folsto: just try: sudo dd if=yourandroid.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4k                  make sure to have this line correct, dd won't ask, it just overwrites
[18:49] <jenia> otherwise when i go right, the cursor goes left
[18:49] <b3r3nd> tutut
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> jenia: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[18:49] <jenia> okay. it worked
[18:49] <jenia> thanks
[18:50] <jenia> thanks for your time guys
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> jenia: so it's ok now? I never advised anything....strange
[18:51] <jenia> damn no its not okay. the mouse goes in the right direction
[18:51] <jenia> i mean, the trackpoint
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> jenia: what is the output of the command I gave plase
[18:52] <jenia> but when i use the pen, it does not get flipped
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> *please
[18:52] <jenia> oneiric
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> jenia: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_10.04_(Lucid_Lynx)_on_a_ThinkPad_X61_Tablet    may help
[18:54] <M4d3L1> hi. is there a way to easily downgrade from 11.10 to 10.04 lst?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: reinstall
[18:54] <israel> reinstall
[18:55] <M4d3L1> ActionParsnip: its on a dedicated server. and I need to pay to reinstall
[18:55] <dr_willis> M4d3L1:  I guess you pay then..
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: reinstall is the only way to get an earlier version
[18:55] <israel> just pay
[18:55] <go8765> can i found some fresh .deb for  Instantbird ?
[18:56] <dr_willis> !ppa | go8765
[18:56] <M4d3L1> anyone has sucessfully install Virtualmin on Ubuntu 11.04?
[18:56] <M4d3L1> 11.10*
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: looks easy enough, there is an install script on their site
[18:57] <dr_willis> !info virtualmin
[18:57] <M4d3L1> ActionParsnip: not work on 11.10
[18:57] <M4d3L1> I need to install manually
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: what does the script output to say it asn't worked?
[18:57] <M4d3L1> it say distribution not found and stop
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: wait, isn't virtualmin a plugin for webmin?
[18:58] <selim> takos tu est la
[18:58] <dr_willis> sounds like it dosent support the latest ubuntu version.
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> !webmin
[18:58] <jubei> can somebody point me to some guide on how to mount 2 disks on 1 point? (like.. JBOD raid)
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: webmin is not compatible with ubuntu
[18:58] <go8765> dr_willis, but i cant find fresh deb there(
[18:58] <dr_willis> jubei:  you mean mount 2 filesystems?  to one mountpoint?
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: so neither is virtualmin
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> http://www.webmin.com/virtualmin.html
[18:59] <jubei> dr_willis, like.. merging 2 disks to one partition
[18:59] <dr_willis> !raid | jubei
[18:59] <jubei> dr_willis, I have 2 clean disks and I want to make one partition out of them
[18:59] <M4d3L1> how I can manage my server than? any free tool?
[19:00] <jubei> dr_willis, thanks
[19:00] <M4d3L1> I only want to be able to create web account
[19:00] <dr_willis> jubei:  you really have a major need for a single mountpoint with the capacity of both disks?
[19:00] <M4d3L1> no dns management
[19:00] <jubei> dr_willis, yes
[19:00] <dr_willis> jubei:  be sure to have backups. :)
[19:00] <dr_willis> most people mangge servers with ssh :)
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> !ebox | M4d3L1
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: could just use SSH and manage the OS that way, like most people do
[19:03] <M4d3L1> ActionParsnip: am not an admin. I need something to quick add account with ftp, mysql db and home folder
[19:03] <M4d3L1> does ebox is secure?
[19:03] <jubei> dr_willis, is there some gnome guy tool to do this? because none of the links you sent me were helpful
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: its not hard to learn
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: its as secure as webmin
[19:03] <jubei> dr_willis, the guides you sent me explain how to install to softwareraid/fakeraid I just want to make it out of 2 independent disks
[19:04] <M4d3L1> I dont say it not hard to learn but I dont have time to learn lol
[19:04] <bender__> Hello, my usb bluetooth won't work :( can you help me please? I need it to sync my phone
[19:04] <jubei> post installation
[19:04] <dr_willis> jubei:  i dont use the feature. so the guides url is all i know on the topic.
[19:04] <jubei> dr_willis, ic. thanks anyway
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: if you do, if you start work on real servers you won't need pretty GUIs to do your work and your skills will be easily transferrable
[19:04] <dr_willis> jubei:  ive learned from hanging in here. that often raids are more trouble then they are worth
[19:05] <dr_willis> jubei:  wht you described sounded like a fake raid to me.
[19:06] <M4d3L1> ActionParsnip: its not time to learn on a production server too.
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: well you've taken one on, time to learn
[19:07] <dr_willis> learning somthing that will do the job.. vs exploreing  and learning about tools that may or may not do the job.
[19:07] <israel> M4d3L1: u need time to learn
[19:07] <nblyumberg> Is there a way to completely remove a wonky MySQL server install?
[19:08] <dr_willis> nblyumberg:  apt-get remove with the purge option perhaps?
[19:08] <dr_willis> nblyumberg:  whats so wonky about it?
[19:08] <nblyumberg> i had it running
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L1: ebox is a supported gui, i suggest you do learn though, maybe in between stuff
[19:08] <bender__> Please can you help me with the bluetooth?
[19:08] <M4d3L1> israel: if you get get more then 24 hour in a day. I want to know how!
[19:08] <nblyumberg> but in the process of trying to get a Perl module to compile i broke it
[19:09] <nblyumberg> I would like to remove everything MySQL* related
[19:09] <israel> M4d3L1: there's always time 4 everithing, just find it
[19:10] <wiggmpk> I lost sound via my speakers (headphones still work). I can confirm my speakers are working when my bios boot animation plays it has sound
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> nblyumberg: you will need to delete the SQL tables you made, then stop mysql, then uninstall it
[19:10] <M4d3L1> yeah… I cut already on administration ;)
[19:10] <nblyumberg> what if things were deleted before things were stopped
[19:10] <bender__> I need help with the bluetooth in ubuntu 11.10
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> wiggmpk: try:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    then wait a few seconds and try some sound things
[19:10] <israel> nblyumberg: sudo apt-get purge mysql, did you try this
[19:10] <wiggmpk> ActionParsnip: tried that already, but I'll give it another go
[19:11] <nblyumberg> That returns E: Unable to locate package mysql
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> nblyumberg: try:  dpkg -l | grep sql
[19:11] <nblyumberg> ok that returns a large list of mysql things
[19:11] <israel> nblyumberg:sudo apt-get autoremove , and this?
[19:12] <nblyumberg> should I dpkg --remove *sql*
[19:12] <groovehunter> hi. How can I start the ubuntu software center on console pls?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> groovehunter: gksudo software-center
[19:13] <groovehunter> thx!
[19:13] <folsto> llutz: dd'ed successful, I need to create a folder in the root of usb. But when I try creating that as root, it says it is read only file system.
[19:13] <dr_willis> Software center has a Non X internface?
[19:13] <wiggmpk> ActionParsnip: yeah, no positive results. I also tried confirming my settings in alsamixer and they are as they should be
[19:13] <elisa87> I receive the error : E: Couldn't find package  in my virtual machine having ubuntu on it! I guess my network is not connected in bash but it is connected in mozilla! so what's the solution?
[19:13] <dr_willis> folsto:  because the usb is an 'iso' filesystem. its also the exact size of the iso. (55mb i think)
[19:13] <Typh> when I drag windows  with one mouse, they move smooth, when I drag with another, they are choppy, only redrawing after a second or more. Where should I be looking to troubleshoot?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> wiggmpk: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[19:14] <pehden> some one who is me and message it to me plese
[19:14] <pehden> *please
[19:14] <dr_willis> you can /whois yourself
[19:14] <becom33> This isnt much of a OS related software . but Im bilding a devlepment envrnment . In mac I can add a virual host example.local and asign the path and keep my work in their . now I wanna make a ubuntu box and keep the host and dns their and connect to
[19:14] <becom33> the linux box when I type example.local. howcan I do that . heard bind dns can do the work . but still Im confused
[19:14] <pehden> i was just asking that lol
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> pehden: http://paste.ubuntu.com/799710/
[19:15] <Typh> I'm guessing the scan frequency is too high on my new mouse or something
[19:15] <elisa87> I receive the error : E: Couldn't find package  in my virtual machine having ubuntu on it! I guess my network is not connected in bash but it is connected in mozilla! so what's the solution?
[19:15] <talntid> anyone know of any tools that can compare a current ubuntu install, to a base ubuntu install, and display the differences between the 2? (like installed software, modified files, etc)
[19:15] <pehden> thanks
[19:15] <becom33> anyone ?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> becom33: just because you don't know how to do someting doesn't mean the OS is lacking, it is YOU that is lacking
[19:16] <wiggmpk> ActionParsnip: are you looking for the log it generates?
[19:16] <israel> elisa87: r u trying to install?
[19:16] <becom33> ActionParsnip:  I didnt mean anything wrong with ubuntu . u guys a knowledgeble people , cant harm if I just ask off topic question right A?
[19:16] <dr_willis> becom33:  you could edit the hosts file and have the example.local  point to the right ip.
[19:16] <xangua> becom33: there is an offtopic channel
[19:16] <folsto> dr_willis: So isn't there a way to copy that iso to usb as other tools should do like unetbootin?
[19:17] <dr_willis> becom33:  its not exactly clear what you are doing.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> wiggmpk: select to upload to the server and a URL will be generated
[19:17] <raido> talntid: you can use dpkg and diff to do the installed software survey
[19:17] <becom33> dr_willis: I have a linux bx
[19:17] <wiggmpk> ActionParsnip: I just used pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/799712/
[19:17] <dr_willis> folsto:  i just did it with a tool from pendrivelinux. but i need to tweak the syslinux config file. it did a common error.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> becom33: if you bridge the connection, it will get DHCP from your router and will be connectable from the LAN like any other system. Is that what you mean?
[19:18] <dr_willis> folsto:  im not even sure how useable android on an i86 is at this time. It may be easier to just test it in virtualbox
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> wiggmpk: in alsamixer   are all levels unmuted and cranked?
[19:18] <taurus86> !lamp
[19:19] <wiggmpk> ActionParsnip: with the exception of "Beep" and my Mic, yes
[19:19] <nblyumberg> ok
[19:19] <nblyumberg> how do I remove the config files with --purge
[19:19] <folsto> dr_willis: No I tried ICS 3.0.1 on a usb of fat32, its higly usable, multitouch, sound, wifi works. I have x86 tablet so it is very  handy.
[19:19] <raido> nblyumberg: dpkg --purge PACKAGENAME
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> wiggmpk: are you wanting to use hdmi or the laptop speakers
[19:19] <nblyumberg> desktop:/var/run/mysqld# dpkg -r mysql-admin --purge
[19:19] <nblyumberg> ah
[19:19] <folsto> dr_willis: Meanwhile I am trying "live-usb-install" from pendrivelinux
[19:19] <israel> nblyumberg: sudo apt-get --purge package
[19:19] <wiggmpk> ActionParsnip: I believe my chipset doesnt support audio over hdmi, so the laptop speakers are the issue
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> wiggmpk: cool
[19:20] <dr_willis> night all...
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> wiggmpk: may help:   there is an entry you can add to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf     https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=114109
[19:21] <wiggmpk> ActionParsnip: thanks, I'll take a look =)
[19:21] <folsto> dr_willis: Thanks for the help, good night.
[19:23] <taurus86> !yum
[19:23] <taurus86> !apt
[19:23] <retrorex> I am trying to install install a package from source forge called k-map-minimizer ...it contains http://paste.ubuntu.com/799717/ ...tried  ./configure sudo: ./configure: command not found
[19:23] <israel> !dpkg
[19:24] <Pici> !msgthebot > taurus86
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> retrorex: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795945  seen that>
[19:26] <go8765> what mean :Could not find compatible GRE between version 2.0 and 2.0.0.*. ?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> go8765: sudo xulrunner-1.9 --register-global
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> go8765: the binary may be different, you get the idea
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> go8765: http://blog.mymediasystem.net/uncategorized/solved-firefox-could-not-find-compatible-gre-after-ubuntu-810-upgrade/    is my source, have you seen that page?
[19:28] <go8765> ActionParsnip, i have two wersions installed. what this command do?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> go8765: try either, looks like so firefox annoyance
[19:28] <go8765> ok. i read it now. thabks
[19:28] <kszksz> i have an issue with finding what file is autostarting my application in /etc/ or somewhere else, it was few days ago and i dont remember it, how can i find it? if the process is running can i check what file launched it?
[19:28] <retrorex>  I am trying to install install a package from source forge called k-map-minimizer ...it contains http://paste.ubuntu.com/799717/ ...tried  ./configure sudo: ./configure: command not found tried sudo make make: *** No rule to make target `blam.d', needed by `kmm'.  make install :make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop ..Any help on compiling from tar.gz .
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: maybe in ~/.config/autostart
[19:29] <go8765> ActionParsnip, sudo: xulrunner-1.9: command not found
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> go8765: tab complete the command name
[19:29] <kszksz> ActionParsnip: no, it is running in console as other user (screen -something something rtorrent)
[19:30] <geekbri> When using ssh-agent and ssh-add, im running into a problem where ssh-agent doesn't seem to be caching my credentials properly.  Is it an issue that the user im logged in as and cacheing the key passphrase is different than the user i SSH in as?  EG. im logged in as "bob" cache my passphrase with ssh-add then try to connect with it to another machine like ssh bill@example.com
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: could look in /etc/rc.local
[19:30] <retrorex> ActionParsnip : nice post on ubuntu forms ..But it doesn't help me how to compile..They are telling you to install other similar software
[19:30] <israel> retrorex: you have to make a bin sudo make main.cpp
[19:30] <kszksz> ActionParsnip: i checked there, no :/ hehe
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> retrorex: its a binary so should be easier. I'd ask in #c as well, about compiling, they may have clues
[19:32] <kszksz> ActionParsnip: /etc/rc.local has only comments and 'exit 0', and user launching that doesnt have ~/.config/autostart
[19:33] <jrib> kszksz: check user's crontab
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> kszksz: yeah the .config/autostart is used by gui tools afaik
[19:33] <euroka> quick question, is aircrack-ng range only affected by firmware installed?
[19:34] <retrorex> israel: sudo make main.cpp make: *** No rule to make target `main.cpp'.  Stop. no good ..what do you mena by "make a bin"...I think file kmm is the GUY there
[19:34] <josh123a123> hello
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> retrorex: why sudo make?
[19:35] <raido> geekbri: are you using the same keys for those machines or different keys with the same passphrase?
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> retrorex: users can make in their own homes, it doesn't need sudo....
[19:35] <go8765> ActionParsnip, i make sudo xulrunner-2.0 --register-global - but it didnt help(
[19:35] <retrorex> ActionParsnip : sudo ... just to be sure
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> retrorex: you need sudo make install    as it copies files to otside the users home
[19:35] <israel> retrorex: u need to find the main file to do it
[19:35] <kszksz> jrib: it isnt in any of crontab
[19:35] <kszksz> is tehre any option for 'find text' in files/tree, i know the screen name so it would be unique
[19:35] <geekbri> raido: Same keys, id_rsa.pub is appended to authorized_keys on the remote machine.  so the user bob is using id_rsa.  IE ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa bill@example.com
[19:36] <jrib> kszksz: how did you verify that?
[19:36] <josh123a123> can someone help me, im trying to install ubontu and after the reboot it gets stuck on a black screen with white writing
[19:36] <kszksz> jrib i browsed to /etc/ crontabs in MC and previewed files
[19:36] <kszksz> or its wrong?
[19:36] <jrib> kszksz: no, run « crontab -u USERNAME -l
[19:36] <jrib> kszksz: no, run « crontab -u USERNAME -l »
[19:37] <israel> josh123a123: what does it say the white writing
[19:37] <raido> geekbri: and the same key is in the authorized_keys file for bill?
[19:37] <kszksz> jrib: I got "no crontab for torrent"
[19:38] <geekbri> raido: sorry, yes that is what i was saying, the id_rsa.pub is in bills authorized_keys
[19:38] <josh123a123> [   6.992693] SD 6:0:0:2: [SDF] ATTACHED SCSI rEMOVABLE DISK
[19:38] <kszksz> jrib no crontab for any user it says
[19:38] <josh123a123> and alot of stuff above it
[19:38] <geekbri> raido: it is not in bob's authorized_keys, does it need to be there as well? I was just calling ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[19:38] <jrib> kszksz: hmm?  Is "torrent", your user?
[19:38] <kszksz> jrib: yes
[19:39] <ubuntu> ciao
[19:39] <jrib> kszksz: does rtorrent get executed even if you don't log in as "torrent"?
[19:39] <ubuntu> list !
[19:39] <israel> !list
[19:40] <kszksz> jrib: for kszksz no crontab, sudo crontab -l -> no crontab for root. yes it gets executed, i log in by ssh as torrent, screen and there it is
[19:40] <josh123a123> ?
[19:40] <jrib> kszksz: well you need to check for crontab for "torrent"
[19:41] <josh123a123> can someone help me, im trying to install ubontu and after the reboot it gets stuck on a black screen with white writing
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> josh123a123: its  ubuntu, not ubontu,   what video card do you use?
[19:42] <jrib> kszksz: if there isn't one, try /etc/crontab
[19:42] <kszksz> jrib: sudo crontab -u torrent -l -> no crontab for torrent, when I log in as "torrent" its same output
[19:42] <josh123a123> nvidia
[19:43] <kszksz> i think i added it to some file, but dunno how to find it..:D
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> josh123a123: add the boot option:  nomodeset
[19:43] <josh123a123> how...
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> josh123a123: actually, add: nouveau.blacklist=1
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions
[19:43] <lordjj> Hello. I have this VGA controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller. What packages can I install to have it perform best -I experience problems with it that include the screen freezing, resolution changing by itself, and weird graphics in games.
[19:43] <raido> geekbri: no, not unless you logging in as bob. However, bill must be allowed to log in remotely. Are you sure bill has remote login permission via ssh?
[19:44] <roy_oneric> Hi! How can I use the OLD classic gnome as root in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:44] <EvilResistance> !root | roy_oneric
[19:44] <mattosaurus> my friend ran a command with sudo that he shouldn't have and I am trying to help him out. he ran the following: "sudo usermod -p ~/../../var/www/ nixuser". What did he change the password of nixuser to?
[19:44] <israel> josh123a123: try to install restrictive drivers
[19:44] <geekbri> raido: he does, i actually just tested the setup on my machien and it works fine, but another user is trying to do the same thing but it prompts him for his passphrase everytime even they he added it with ssh-add
[19:44] <jrib> kszksz: if it's not in /etc/crontab, try: grep -R rtorrent /etc
[19:44] <josh123a123> \quit
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: there is a how to on omgubuntu, you can rejig Gnome3 to look like Gnome2
[19:45] <jrib> mattosaurus: just change the password again
[19:45] <mattosaurus> jrib: he doesn't know the sudo password
[19:45] <jrib> mattosaurus: reboot and choose recovery mode from the grub menu
[19:45] <roy_oneric> ubottu, I know my root password and how to use that to "BE" root. I just want the old desktop
[19:45] <mattosaurus> jrib: that user was the only user with sudo access
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> mattosaurus: you can reset it in root recovery mode
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: again, there is a how to on omgubuntu
[19:46] <mattosaurus> jrib: he has to know the root password in that case to log in as root
[19:46] <jrib> mattosaurus: only if he set one.
[19:46] <raido> geekbri: so your all fine but from another machine and another user (mary) tries to ssh-add her private key and passphrase and cant log into bill@example?
[19:46] <kszksz> jrib: thanks i found it, its in /etc/rcx.d/ :P
[19:46] <israel> jghi
[19:46] <geekbri> raido: they can login, but even after cacheing it with ssh-agent / ssh-add it still prompts them for their keys passphrase when it shouldn't be
[19:47] <jrib> kszksz: should also be in /etc/init.d/ then
[19:47] <bullgard6> ActionParsnip: I switched my Ubuntu 11.10 computer off. During that period a friend sent me a XMPP message using Pidgin. I switched my computer on. '~$ ps -ef| egrep 'empathy|pidgin' | grep -v grep' did not produce any output. But I received at once the XMPP message sent 5 minutes before when my computer was switched off.  --  '~$ lsof -i | grep xmpplsof -i | grep xmpp' showed me 'telepathy'...
[19:47] <bullgard6> ...though.
[19:48] <titanes> FUUUUU!! buububuntuututu Live don't be having lm_sensors??
[19:48] <raido> geekbri: make sure they arent using multiple private keys in ~.ssh. ssh-agent only loads the defaults
[19:48] <kszksz> jrib: thanks, without that grep I would never find it, file name is 'st' :P
[19:49] <geekbri> raido: i'll check, who knows what craziness they did :)
[19:49] <jrib> kszksz: :D
[19:49] <roy_oneric> ActionParsnip, Can't find that on http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk. Can you just tell me how to do that?
[19:49] <bullgard6> llutz: '~$ lsof -i | grep xmpplsof -i | grep xmpp' showed me 'telepathy'.
[19:49] <euroka> guys it the range of aircrack-ng solely affected by hardware firmware/driver=
[19:49] <raido> geekbri: they can use more than one but then ssh-agent needs to be told
[19:49] <go8765> ActionParsnip,  i try tu run instantbird  and have error message about hulrunner  message.. i have this installed http://i.imm.io/eo4K.png
[19:50] <raido> geekbri: FWIW, all my keys are passphraseless. I find that much easier to handle.
[19:50] <llutz> bullgard6: well, another xmpp-/jabber-client
[19:51] <lordjj> Hello. I have this VGA controller: "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller". What packages can I install to have it perform best (from repos or manual install) -I experience problems with it that include the screen freezing, resolution changing by itself, and weird graphics in games.
[19:51] <israel> llutz: empathy, pidgin
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/
[19:51] <bullgard6> llutz: If I rememberight, telepathy is som kind of basic service to Empathy or Pidgin.
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> go8765: what is instantbird?
[19:51] <roy_oneric> ActionParsnip, Does that say how to do that to the "root" account?
[19:52] <israel> ActionParsnip: like pidgin
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: same difference, running the desktop as root is not advise, supported nor needed
[19:52] <llutz> bullgard6: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telepathy_(software)    nothing i ever used ;)
[19:53] <roy_oneric> ActionParsnip, If the "root" account was useless, there it would not exist in the first place.
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: its not useless
[19:53] <go8765> ActionParsnip, something like pigin from mozilla team)
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: its just not needed, as sudo does all you need and running gui apps, especially web browsers and the X server is particularly foolish
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> go8765: i'd ask in their channel then
[19:54] <jrib> insert "as root" somewhere in there ActionParsnip :)
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> jrib: that too
[19:55] <israel> !root
[19:56] <urlin2u> Can I run gnome 3 and the fallback on 11.10
[19:56] <roy_oneric> ActionParsnip, I know about "sudo". I am just not happy with the looks. I am not using it on a production server, but merely as a tool for other purposes.
[19:56] <titanes> I know what I'll do with the flawed install, it's a command that starts with r ends with m and some funny switches.
[19:56] <roy_oneric> ActionParsnip, I don't even need the gui tools. But the ones present are crappy. So I want the old one
[19:57] <almoxarife> pidgin is an excellent client for a whole heap of online chat protocols, i know its not as sexy as cli(something that requires me to remember 100 key combos) but my dear mother appreciates seeing her sons face once and a while, rather than a :) or :(
[19:57] <craig__> Does anyone know how to install Ubuntu on LVM? (I'm a Debian user and will not need detailed instructions)
[19:57] <lordjj> Anyone knows about "Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller" drivers?
[19:58] <almoxarife> lordjj: pretty sure thats what i have on my lappy
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> this instant bird is nasty
[19:58] <POVaddct> craig__: the alternate cd provides the well know textmode debian installer
[19:58] <lordjj> almoxarife what drivers do you use for it?
[19:58] <POVaddct> craig__: and the netinstall iso too
[19:59] <almoxarife> lordjj: the intel ones? let me see what i actually have installed
[20:01] <craig__> POVaddct: Awesome, I'll look on the Ubuntu website for the Alternative cd. Also, is there a reason why LVM does not seem to be supported using the standard install media gui? (just curious)
[20:01] <geekbri> raido: passphraseless is certainly more convenient but unfortunately not as secure if somehow the key is obtained by people that shouldn't have it :(
[20:01] <almoxarife> lordjj: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:01] <POVaddct> craig__: don't know
[20:01] <kszksz> is there any way to let specified/any user full access to mounted usb disk in /media/ ? chmod wont work for me, probably because that usb disk has ntfs on it, or im just 'doing it wrong'. chmod -R /media/ or /media/USB-HDD/ or any inside dismounts disk. only one solution i figured is to run app as root
[20:01] <lordjj> Will having xserver-xorg-video-vesa installed interfere with other installed drivers? almoxarife
[20:01] <craig__> POVaddct: OK, thank you.
[20:02] <roy_oneric> ActionParsnip: Any help?
[20:02] <raido> geekbri: indeed. but, sysadmin is a fraught with comprimise. One must pick his battles.
[20:02] <almoxarife> lordjj: dont know about 'others' it does not effect intel driver
[20:02] <geekbri> raido: ah truer words have never been spoken
[20:03] <lordjj> almoxarife I have that installed too. From the default repos right?
[20:03] <almoxarife> lordjj: yeah, we sort of got the straight forward no frills graphics, it can do opengl though, so i am not complaining
[20:04] <roy_oneric> This channel used to be friendlier...
[20:04] <lordjj> almoxarife I have problems with it that include screen freezing, and resolution switching by itself.
[20:04] <jrib> roy_oneric: what exactly do you need to do?
[20:05] <PK> Oneiric doesn't like my Radeon Mobility X1600 :( the aticonfig tool doesn't detect it as compatible hardware but lspci lists it correctly. What am I doing wrong other than using a 5 year old notebook? :)
[20:05] <roy_oneric> jrib, I want the root account to use the classic gnome desktop
[20:05] <mischko> How do I get apt-get to display the full URL path to the package files it's trying to download?  I need to get them on a machine that has a proxy set up, etc.
[20:05] <POVaddct> roy_oneric: and why exactly do you want to run GUI tools as root?
[20:05] <jrib> roy_oneric: right, I saw your question.  But why are you wanting to run a gui as root?
[20:05] <almoxarife> lordjj: perhaps its time to open the case and give it a cleaning, get some of the dust out of it?
[20:06] <bullgard6> llutz: If you have used Empathy then it installed the DEB program package »telepathy-gabble« which is a connection manager. Google Talk did require it also.
[20:06] <lordjj> almoxarife because we all know those pesky dust mites like to mess with our resolutions :P
[20:07] <roy_oneric> jrib, It's easy. No sudo/password prompt at every step, and many things NEED root account to work right. eg. ZFS
[20:07] <GobShite_>  Can anyone tell me what the hell ubuntu devs motivation is to keep removing customization options from the desktop are ? Cus it seems to me like its becoming some kinda of closed jailed OS to me ?
[20:07] <lordjj> almoxarife I was basically looking here: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/chpsts/4m/  and here:  http://intellinuxgraphics.org/documentation.html
[20:07] <llutz> bullgard6: i haven't used those either. But now you know what is listening in the background
[20:07] <lordjj> almoxarife to see if there's anything better than what we get by default.
[20:08] <its_jeremy_> GobShite_ Their goal if for a successful desktop OS that is easy to use, they feel they are making it easier to understand and use
[20:08] <zim> Hi all. Is it possible to ...... install $software on my ubuntu server that my apple tv will see as a source for music?
[20:08] <lordjj> almoxarife but I don't see anything clear there.
[20:08] <bullgard6> llutz: Yes. Thank you very much for your competent help.
[20:08] <GobShite_> Oh right , lol
[20:08] <zim> ps. ununtu server on the same network
[20:08] <GobShite_> so changeing themes should be easy now ?
[20:09] <POVaddct> roy_oneric: are you sure the ZFS thing cannot be fixed with an appropriate chown and then working as a non-root user?
[20:09] <its_jeremy_> hey, i'm not happy with Unity or the new changes, but that's their business model
[20:09] <its_jeremy_> at leas you have options with kubuntu and xubuntu if you don't like Unity
[20:09] <almoxarife> lordjj: there is not much to get, mine is a lappy, i get opengl on the desktop, thats something, crash it about once a week, but then that is why the lappy only cost 550 monopoly bucks
[20:09] <GobShite_> Yer I give another 3 years and youll have a Jailed OS like Apple
[20:10] <almoxarife> lordjj: crash the opengl, not the whole system
[20:10] <lordjj> heh
[20:10] <tiiv> hi there
[20:10] <roy_oneric> jrib, Many things CAN be done, possibly, but fixing those become the problem. I want to focus on the jobs, not the tools.
[20:10] <tiiv> could I ask someone for advice or should I go to the ubuntuuserforums?
[20:11] <tiiv> it's about wifi drivers
[20:11] <almoxarife> lordjj: and if you want stable, use xrender, its stable, just not as sexy
[20:11] <lordjj> almoxarife, sigh. Well for future purchase, what graphics cards are best supported under linux?
[20:11] <roy_oneric> POVaddct, Sorry, that was meant for you
[20:12] <EvilResistance> tiiv:  just ask your question here
[20:12] <tiiv> okay
[20:12] <tiiv> so
[20:12] <almoxarife> lordjj: nvidia before ati, my opinion
[20:12] <roy_oneric> POVaddct, I am well aware of all mighty root and it's smiting powers. And I am just willing to use the powers since I don't mind being smitten. Can you help me now?
[20:13] <flintwingel> roy_oneric: what happens if you just set the password for the root account and try & log in through the graphical sign on (sorry if you've tried this already .. not seen your whole chat)
[20:13] <zim> OK. rephrase. Can I make ubuntu play with apple toys. I want it to store the $media and apple toys use it.
[20:13] <lordjj> almoxarife I basically have these problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Quirks#Intel_No_Display_After_Lid_Close_Quirks:_i915.2BAC8-intel_lvds.c  none of the quirks fixed it though.
[20:13] <tiiv> I'm trying to install the compat-wireless driver
[20:13] <roy_oneric> flintwingel, I AM root. with crappy unity
[20:13] <almoxarife> lordjj: a dell?
[20:13] <tiiv> and apparently there's supposed to be a load.sh script in the package
[20:13] <tiiv> but it's not
[20:13] <tiiv> at least not in the current version
[20:14] <lordjj> almoxarife no an HP probook
[20:14] <tiiv> and building the driver fails
[20:14] <tiiv> and I think it's related to that
[20:14] <jsebean> hi
[20:14] <POVaddct> roy_oneric: i'd just "sudo -s" into a terminal inside the desktop session of my normal user
[20:14] <jsebean> ok it's working
[20:14] <jsebean> how do I move files from 1 directory back a directory in terminal?
[20:14] <codeshah> I have a bunch of URLs that need to be redirected… I am wondering if the best way to do this is in .htaccess -> i have about 30 urls
[20:14] <almoxarife> lordjj: my wife has a dell, i have yet to figure out how to get it to return from suspend
[20:14] <roy_oneric> POVaddct, So you don't know how to do what I want?
[20:14] <Kingsy> can someone tell me why apache is giving me this error --> apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER} <-- I have added my user to the www-data group   isnt that enough ?
[20:14] <flintwingel> roy_oneric: my misunderstanding, sorry. You want to blitz Unity and go back to a Gnome2 desktop?
[20:15] <POVaddct> roy_oneric: sorry, cannot help you with switching from unity to gnome, i switched back to debian a year ago
[20:15] <roy_oneric> flintwingel, yep
[20:15] <zim> Can't wait for Raspberry Pi goodness will be able to phase out apple toys and not have this problem
[20:15] <GobShite> i got 2 on pre order
[20:15] <roy_oneric> POVaddct, that's ok. I use solaris
[20:15] <jutnux>  Raspberry Pi \o/
[20:15] <lordjj> almoxarife I keep hearing about suspend problems all over...
[20:15] <jutnux> Cannot wait for them, so many uses.
[20:15] <zim> ye ye If you could preorder I would have
[20:15] <GobShite> \O/ Pi
[20:16] <jrib> roy_oneric: the best advice I can give you is to give up on your quest to run your graphical environment as root.  It's not necessary, inherently less secure than the default ubuntu setup, and won't be supported here.  You can of course choose to ignore me; I do not wish to discuss it
[20:16] <almoxarife> lordjj: there are a few suspend/restore options out there, try some
[20:16] <llutz> Kingsy: how did you add your user?
[20:17] <Kingsy> llutz: "usermod -G www-data chris"
[20:17] <roy_oneric> jrib, I don't care about security at all.
[20:17] <llutz> Kingsy: well, now www-data is the only group your user chris is in...
[20:17] <GobShite> raw debian allows for root GD no probs
[20:18] <Kingsy> ah crap really?
[20:18] <jutnux> Offtopic but what do you guys have planned for the PIs?
[20:18] <roy_oneric> jrib, I just want the lightweight ubuntu with the updates to be able to run my virtual appliances in offline mode. does that satisfy your concern?
[20:18] <Kingsy> I guess I should change it back with usermod -G chris chris then
[20:18] <Kingsy> llutz: yeah ^^ ?
[20:18] <llutz> Kingsy: man usermod   (-aG www-data chris    it should have been)
[20:18] <flintwingel> roy_oneric: from what I've read I don't believe there's a simple way to "downgrade" 11.10 to use Gnome2
[20:18] <lordjj> almoxarife my problem is basically that if I close & open the lid or run a fullscreen app with a different resolution, the screen freezes, but I can still hear sounds -everything is still running. Sometimes its just a black screen and the cursor that i can move around. Switching  to tty1 and killing the fullscreen app dsnt solve anything either.
[20:18] <jrib> roy_oneric: as I said, it's not necessary
[20:18] <zim> roy_oneric: yes but we do and it is designed to work like that. If you want to make life hard then kick on but you have much pain ahead
[20:18] <flintwingel> roy_oneric:  http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-login-to-classic-gnome2-and-gnome3gnome-shell
[20:18] <llutz> Kingsy: better/safer to use adduser than usermod
[20:19] <lordjj> almoxarife I end up hitting cnrl+alt+backspace
[20:19] <Kingsy> llutz: so first things first.. should I change it back to chris:chris ?
[20:19] <Kingsy> first
[20:19] <jsebean> how do I move files from 1 directory back a directory in terminal?
[20:19] <Kingsy> cos thats what it is when you create a new user right?
[20:19] <almoxarife> lordjj: you on ubuntu 11.10?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: or run LXDE or XFCE if you want lightweight :)
[20:19] <llutz> Kingsy: if you can, you should, yes
[20:19] <Kingsy> ok 1 sec
[20:19] <lordjj> almoxarife 11.04
[20:19] <jsebean> or i mean how do I move files from 1 directory up a directory in terminal?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> jsebean: mv filename ../
[20:19] <Kingsy> llutz: ok done..
[20:19] <roy_oneric> flintwingel, I used that to change my normal user accounts. But that doesn't have any effect on the (apparently quite buggy) root account
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> jsebean: mv filename ./foldername
[20:20] <almoxarife> lordjj: does it open a mini terminal when you hit alt f2?
[20:20] <Kingsy> llutz: ok so how do you get around this stupid apache error then? I was assuming it was asking me to get my user attached to the group?
[20:20] <zim> jsebean: mv filename ../
[20:20] <jsebean> ActionParsnip: it's a directory and all the files in it
[20:20] <jsebean> ActionParsnip: i tried that no I got no idea where everything is
[20:20] <lordjj> almoxarife it does,  but i can't see it when it's frozen.
[20:20] <lordjj> almoxarife if only there's a way to reset the screen/unfreeze it without resetting my session i'd be fine.
[20:20] <roy_oneric> ActionParsnip, Is it at all possible to use the classic desktop on ubuntu 11.10?
[20:21] <zim> jsebean: ../ = up one level ../../ up two levels etc
[20:21] <llutz> Kingsy: "getent passwd www-data"  "getent group www-date"     do both have output?
[20:21] <almoxarife> lordjj: you mean kill x and restart x?
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> jsebean: so you have a lot of files in a directory with one directory where all the data is destined?
[20:21] <roy_oneric> ActionParsnip, I mean as root?
[20:21] <llutz> www-data*
[20:21] <flintwingel> roy_oneric: the root account isn't buggy, it's more likely the config files are hard wired rather than user configured.
[20:21] <zim> jsebean: type pwd
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: there is a hack, I told you about it earlier. If you like the Gnom2 smell then XFCE works well
[20:21] <lordjj> almoxarife yeah but that closes my session and all my programs
[20:21] <zim> what will give you your location
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: the accout is moot
[20:21] <jsebean> ActionParsnip: i am on a vps server running ubuntu. I want to move /var/www/forums files to /var/www .... i did mv forums/ ../ now i dont know where they are
[20:22] <almoxarife> lordjj: true
[20:22] <roy_oneric> ActionParsnip, "moot"?
[20:22] <zim> jsebean: cd ../
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: irrelevant, doesn't matter
[20:22] <jsebean> zim: I feel dumb now lol
[20:22] <Kingsy> llutz: no, only www-data exists
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> roy_oneric: instead of asking, you could have looked it up yourself...
[20:22] <almoxarife> lordjj: so would it be killing gdm and restarting it?
[20:22] <Kingsy> llutz: www-date returns nothing.. not sure why I am checking that
[20:23] <llutz> Kingsy: sry typo  "getent group www-data"
[20:23] <flintwingel> roy_oneric: have a look in roots home and try moving some of the "." folders away -  anything starting .g or .x
[20:23] <jsebean> zim: but how do I move the files inside of the folder up?
[20:23] <lordjj> almoxarife would that preserve my session?
[20:23] <almoxarife> lordjj: better to ask one of the smart heads, i think so, try ittttttttttttttttttttttttt
[20:23] <Kingsy> llutz: ah.. yeah they both have output
[20:23] <zim> jsebean: ok slow down its easy.    everything starts at /
[20:23] <llutz> Kingsy: to make sure the user/group apache2 runs as still exists
[20:24] <zim> jsebean: pm me I will give you the basics
[20:24] <roy_oneric> flintwingel, then what?
[20:24] <jsebean> zim: ok
[20:24] <lordjj> almoxarife brb, then. Gonna try it out.
[20:24] <Kingsy> llutz: yeah, got it.. they are there
[20:24] <almoxarife> lordjj: ok
[20:24] <lordjj> almoxarife wait to be clear, is it pkill gdm, then gdm?
[20:24] <flintwingel> roy_oneric: try logging in as root again - the idea is to stop the login script using roots hard wired config files
[20:24] <llutz> Kingsy: grep APACHE_RUN_USER /etc/apache2/envvars
[20:25] <flintwingel> roy_oneric: (this comes under the heading of educated guess - no guarantees)
[20:25] <Kingsy> llutz: APACHE_RUN_USER:www-data
[20:25] <almoxarife> lordjj: i would think there is a 'start' somewhere in the gdm to restart
[20:25] <roy_oneric> flintwingel, I understand.
[20:25] <llutz> Kingsy: afaik it has to be "APACHE_RUN_USER=www-data"  = not :
[20:25] <Kingsy> sorry thats what I mean
[20:26] <Kingsy> I just typed it out
[20:26] <Kingsy> I didnt copy and paste it
[20:26] <lordjj> almoxarife "gdm-restart stops and restarts GDM by sending the GDM daemon a HUP signal. This command will immediately terminate all sessions and log out users currently logged in with GDM"
[20:26] <lordjj> almoxarife doesn't look goof
[20:27] <lordjj> *good
[20:27] <roy_oneric> flintwingel, Do you mean the "/" folder or "root" folder or "home" folder?
[20:27] <almoxarife> lordjj: no, it does not
[20:27] <flintwingel> roy_oneric: /root
[20:28] <almoxarife> lordjj: you use compiz?
[20:28] <roy_oneric> flintwingel, ok
[20:28] <lordjj> almoxarife yes
[20:28] <Kingsy> llutz: ok?
[20:28] <lordjj> almoxarife could that be a source of trouble? Cause I can purge it without looking back.
[20:28] <sahasra> hiii, what is OOPS 500: Listen error while trying to connect to vsftpd ?
[20:28] <eutheria> i once found a way to import my openvpn config with the network manager, i don't seem to be able to see it any more
[20:29] <almoxarife> lordjj: i gave up on compiz, can you do without it/.
[20:29] <lordjj> almoxarife though the smooth fade out/in effects are relaxing... But yeah I can, what are the possible benefits?
[20:29] <sahasra> my ETL jobs are failing because of this vsftpd OOPS : child died error :(
[20:29] <llutz> Kingsy: sry phone, yes ok
[20:29] <Kingsy> llutz: not a problem
[20:29] <almoxarife> lordjj: no crashes?
[20:30] <lordjj> almoxarife hm, tempting...
[20:30] <llutz> Kingsy: grep APACHE_RUN_USER /etc/apache2/apache2.conf   should give User ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[20:30] <almoxarife> lordjj: join kubuntu for a sec
[20:30] <Kingsy> llutz: it does yeah
[20:30] <llutz> Kingsy: same for APACHE_RUN_GROUP
[20:30] <llutz> Kingsy: sry then i don't know why apache complains about it...
[20:31] <Kingsy> llutz: well the user "chris" isnt a part of the www-data group is it?
[20:31] <Kingsy> which is the user I am running a command under
[20:31] <llutz> Kingsy: he doesnt need to be to run apache
[20:31] <roy_oneric> flintwingel, there are: .gconf
[20:31] <roy_oneric> .gnash
[20:31] <roy_oneric> .gnome2
[20:31] <roy_oneric> .gstreamer-0.10
[20:31] <roy_oneric> .gtk-bookmarks
[20:31] <roy_oneric> .gvfs
[20:31] <FloodBot1> roy_oneric: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:31] <Kingsy> llutz: ah no, I am trying to run   "apache2 -M" from a terminal using the "chris" user
[20:32] <Kingsy> llutz: to check some apache config
[20:32] <elisa87> I receive W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-updates/universe/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.183 80] when I write sudo apt-get install any idea?
[20:32] <Kingsy> I guess i don't need to bother.. but it would be handy
[20:33] <flintwingel> roy_oneric: make a save directory and move .gconf, .gnome2 and any .bash or .profile files/dirs into it
[20:33] <llutz> Kingsy: apache is started as root to bind to port 80/443 and then forked to www-data:www-data. your user only needs to be member of that group to edit stuff in /var/www, which should be group-owned by www-data
[20:33] <flintwingel> roy_oneric: then log out & log in again
[20:34] <roy_oneric> flintwingel, ok
[20:34] <llutz> Kingsy:  that seem to be normal, i get same error when using that command here.
[20:34] <Kingsy> llutz: well, I am still learning about server admin, but they way I did it was used /srv/http/ as my http folder and I have "chown -R chris:chris /srv/http/" so I can edit it.. is that bad? should that be owned by www-data and I should make myself a user in that group?
[20:36] <llutz> Kingsy: it should be fine. www-data just needs to be able to read the stuff in /srv/http and some files/dirs it might need to write (configs etc.).
[20:36] <malibu> Is anyone here familiar with gnome do?  Can someone walk me through how to make an alias for opening a cartain directory?
[20:37] <Kingsy> llutz: so its not bad practice for the server user to own the http directory like that?
[20:37] <Kingsy> :D
[20:37] <EvilResistance> Kingsy:  fwiw, i have my server's web directory owned as root:www-data
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> malibu: http://do.davebsd.com/wiki/File_Plugin
[20:38] <EvilResistance> so that only someone with sudo can edit the data, but everything else can read it
[20:38] <llutz> Kingsy: nope,  i guess its mostly owned "user:www-data" with 755/644 permissions
[20:38] <EvilResistance> Kingsy:  but at one point i've had myuser:www-data as the owner :P
[20:38] <flintwingel> Kingsy: if you were being paranoid you would have any files accessed by the webserver owned by a different user
[20:38] <llutz> Kingsy: just make sure www-data has as limited write-access as possible
[20:38] <Kingsy> still learning about best practice on permissions aswell see. I don't really see the harm in 777
[20:39] <n-iCe> hello is there any GUI ssh client?
[20:39] <Kingsy> but I guess i will when something goes wrong
[20:39] <malibu> ActionParsnip, The files and folders plugin doesn't work for me because I want to pick out a few folders from a dir structure with 5000 files, and gnome-do can only index up to 3000.
[20:40] <malibu> ActionParsnip, So when I try files and folders, gnome refuses to index
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> malibu: any chance you can break it up?
[20:41] <malibu> ActionParsnip, not really..  Been down that road already
[20:41] <lbs> hello
[20:41] <malibu> I thought I could just use aliases and do the few folders I find I use manually
[20:42] <lbs> I have a byobu running on an ubuntu server and there's a yellow U on pink background in the left-bottom corner. what is that?
[20:42] <flintwingel> n-iCe: gStm is good for managing ssh tunnels
[20:43] <flintwingel> n-iCe: otherwise Putty
[20:44] <n-iCe> flintwingel: says tunel is currently running but I don't see any files
[20:46] <flintwingel> n-iCe: sorry, not sure what you're telling me. If you want to run a tunnel over ssh the port at the client end needs to be free, and have a port number over 1024 if you're not root
[20:46] <trism> lbs: just an ubuntu logo, I think byobu 5 is supposed to replace it with an actual logo, since it defaults to tmux and has unicode support in the status area
[20:47] <FluxD> Hello, I am trying to enable wobbly windows under ubuntu 11.10 and whatever I do, it does not work, ideas/suggestions ?
[20:47] <lbs> thanks, trism! I don't think tmux is installed on this machine
[20:48] <longcat> i really wish that after all this time that gnome implemented one of the features of kde i really loved..and that's to be able to specify exactly which desktops a window will appear on
[20:49] <malibu> ActionParsnip, you know what, I just made a folder where I put symlinks and index that with files and folders.. not perfect, but workable at least.
[20:50] <manveru1> Is there an easy way to upgrade to 12.04 without using a CD?
[20:52] <usr13> manveru1: from ___________?
[20:52] <manveru1> Sorry, from 11.10
[20:53] <usr13> manveru1: Yes.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:53] <usr13> and http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[20:54] <barf> How come . ./.bashrc and not just ./.bashrc?
[20:55] <osmosis> whats the diff between sqlite and sqlite3 ?
[20:55] <llutz> barf: 2 different things. 1st will source .bashrc, 2nd tries to run it
[20:55] <flintwingel> barf: do you mean .  ./.bashrc? It forces the contents of .bashrc to be run in the current shell rather than spawning a child process
[20:56] <trism> osmosis: there was a compatibility break when sqlite3 arrived (they can't read each others databases), and there are still some apps around that need the old ones
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> manveru1: sudo update-manager -d
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> manveru1: -d  is for (d)evelopment version ;)
[20:58] <manveru1> ActionParsnip: perfect, thank you!
[20:58] <jsebean> Can anyone tell my why DocumentRoot is not working on Apache on ubuntu. I set it up correctly, and disabled/reenabled the site a2ensite domain.com but yet it still points to the default /var/www
[20:59] <jsebean> I have another virtual host setup and it works perfectly
[20:59] <usr13> jsebean: Did you restart apache?
[20:59] <jsebean> usr13: yes
[20:59] <jsebean> usr13: multiple times :P
[20:59] <FluxD> Hello, I am trying to enable wobbly windows under ubuntu 11.10 and whatever I do, it does not work, ideas/suggestions ? It crashes unity when I enable it
[21:00] <usr13> jsebean: What did you change it to?  And why did you change it?
[21:00] <jsebean> usr13: /var/www/forums because I want it to point there?
[21:00] <usr13> jsebean: (I usualy just leave the default.
[21:00] <MrKeuner> hello, how do I change gdm background when users are listed? 10.04.3
[21:00] <usr13> jsebean: Why not just use symlinks?  (Apache follows symlinks by default.)
[21:01] <zim> jsebean: whats broken sorry I have been out
[21:01] <jsebean> zim: hi, I was trying to change my documentroot since i'd like that anyway.... i did it right but it's not working
[21:02] <jsebean> zim usr13: I'm gonna try something else, resetup a new virtual host to see if that works
[21:02] <usr13> jsebean: As to the answer to your question, I would assume that you incorrectly edited the config.
[21:02] <zim> did you change it in both places in you file?
[21:02] <usr13> jsebean: Why not just use symlink(s)?  (Seems much easier to me...)
[21:03] <ArnoldMartinAddM> Help please Installed 11.04, won't accept my keyring ;(
[21:03] <jsebean> usr13: one sec...
[21:03] <zim>  DocumentRoot /var/www/forums
[21:03] <barf> keyring?
[21:03] <ArnoldMartinAddM> yes
[21:03] <zim>  <Directory /var/www/forums/>
[21:04] <XCoder2K9> has anybody tried the pixel tapping technique for reviving a stuck pixel?
[21:04] <Kingsy> so guys how do you add a new user to an existing group?
[21:04] <MrKeuner> hello, how do I change gdm background one that's shown in background when users are listed? Lucid here...
[21:04] <usr13> jsebean: Instead of trying to put everything in one directory, you can use as many symlinks as your little heart desires....
[21:04] <go8765_> !amd
[21:04] <MrKeuner> Kingsy, try System/Administration/Users and Groups
[21:04] <zim> jsebean: note DocumentRoot no / at the end and Directory has
[21:05] <jsebean> zim: yes i know
[21:05] <Kingsy> MrKeuner: I mean through the terminal
[21:05] <MrKeuner> Kingsy, try adduser
[21:05] <Kingsy> MrKeuner: usermod -G user group ?
[21:05] <zim> is it working?
[21:05] <Kingsy> MrKeuner: if the user already exists?
[21:05] <MrKeuner> Kingsy, no
[21:05] <MrKeuner> Kingsy, still it is adduser
[21:05] <MrKeuner> Kingsy, man adduser
[21:05] <XCoder2K9> I mean, have you had any experience with your laptop having a stuck pixel and were successful in reviving it? mine doesn't display green properly from what I noticed; it shows red, blue, purple and black just fine.
[21:05] <XCoder2K9> But on a white background it stays red.
[21:06] <XCoder2K9> On a green background it's red again.
[21:06] <XCoder2K9> So I'm thinking, since this macbook air is just 3 weeks old, to try the tapping technique or the massage.
[21:06] <zim> XCoder2K9: is that a software problem sounds like its hardware
[21:07] <XCoder2K9> zim: I don't really know what the problem is... I'm curious to see if I could fix it with the massage
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy: if the user already exists:  sudo usermod -a -G group user
[21:07] <llutz> Kingsy: if you insist on using usermod, read the man-page and note "-a" as an important option
[21:07] <vladz> Kingsy: usermod
[21:07] <Kingsy> MrKeuner: I am sorry, I don't get it, the adduser manual talks about adding users.. not appending existing users to existing groups
[21:07] <XCoder2K9> but I wanted to get some heads-up first and see any disadvantages
[21:07] <Slagwag> damn ubuntu is sexy now
[21:07] <Kingsy> ActionParsnip: I think so
[21:07] <llutz> Kingsy: you haven't read the adduser man-page
[21:07] <MrKeuner> Kingsy, it is also used to add users to certain groups
[21:08] <zim> XCoder2K9: give it to the !genius and he will !fixit but give you a new one
[21:08] <iAkshay> I'm struggling to install Ubuntu alongside Windows on my AMD
[21:08] <llutz> from man adduser ".. Add an existing user to an existing group.."
[21:08] <vladz> Kingsy: usermod -a -G <group> <user>
[21:08] <iAkshay> Ubuntu isn't identifying windows installation
[21:08] <Kingsy> EH? I used the usermod command it it says "user does not exist" I have just logged in with that user
[21:09] <vladz> Kingsy: How did you use it ?
[21:09] <XCoder2K9> there are no such "geniuses" in Europe :) just resellers, premium resellers - so basically people that sell you stuff without actually replacing it... there are no Apple Stores in Austria for instance as far as I know
[21:09] <XCoder2K9> I bought mine from Switzerland
[21:09] <XCoder2K9> and I'm in Vienna, Austria in 2 days
[21:09] <Kingsy> vladz: sudo usermod -a -G chris rob
[21:09] <XCoder2K9> I doubt anyone there would care to exchange it
[21:09] <Kingsy> I want to add "rob" to the "chris" group
[21:10] <llutz> Kingsy: getent passwd rob
[21:10] <Kingsy> oh hmm it worked there, perhaps I made a typo
[21:10] <wjlafrance> XCoder2K9: if you call up AppleCare, they'll work something out for you. Tell them it's critical to your business, you just spent a ton of money, expect a good customer experience, and they might mail you a brand new one and expect yours to be returned afterwards. Might..
[21:10] <Supermanintights> where's the cheapest place to buy computer equipment from?
[21:11] <vladz> Kingsy: works for me...
[21:11] <Supermanintights> i've just checked - I can (by the looks of it) recover all of my files from my corrupted (1365 bad sectors) USB HDD - I now need to buy a 2tb hdd again.
[21:11] <iAkshay> Ubuntu isn't identifying windows installation
[21:11] <Kingsy> vladz: yeah it was a typo.. hehe DOH.
[21:11] <Kingsy> it works now.. thanks
[21:11] <zim> XCoder2K9: http://tinyurl.com/7xrj3ko
[21:12] <XCoder2K9> zim, thank you for that!
[21:12] <XCoder2K9> thanks wjlafrance
[21:12] <XCoder2K9> I'll try that as well
[21:12] <XCoder2K9> but I don't know who to call... being in South-Eastern Europe, it's harder calling the USA
[21:12] <MrKeuner> hello, how do I change gdm background one that's shown in background when users are listed? Lucid here...
[21:12] <XCoder2K9> and sending the laptop to the USA from here is a pain and very expensive
[21:13] <MrKeuner> have installed bunch of new wallpapers and now my gdm background autmatically changed to one of the new ones... I lkied the old one :)
[21:14] <ArnoldMartinAddM> help Anyone, my installed ubuntu won't accept my keyring, it MUST be my password
[21:14] <wjlafrance> XCoder2K9: They probably have a facility in the UK, otherwise explain to them that its at their expense. Apple is really good about that stuff. If they shipped you a faulty display, they'll make it right
[21:14] <Supermanintights> ArnoldMartinAddM, have you checked capslock?
[21:15] <zim> Raspberry Pi #01 now at £3500 http://tinyurl.com/7jrvrvm
[21:15] <ArnoldMartinAddM> what about capslock?
[21:15] <go8765_> can i founs somewhere fresh deb of instantbird  ?
[21:15] <ArnoldMartinAddM> neb here
[21:15] <Supermanintights> ensured it's on/off as required?
[21:15] <^Eric> Fairly brand new to Linux, but an experienced user otherwise.  Very very pleased with what Ubuntu has brought to my network.  Looking forward to learning here!  :)
[21:16] <Pici> 5/60
[21:16] <MrKeuner> ^Eric, another happy customer
[21:16] <Pici> argh. sorry.
[21:16] <^Eric> MrKeuner, Took me a while to get Samba running, but it's working like a dream.... love it love it love it.
[21:16] <guntbert> ^Eric:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:16] <ArnoldMartinAddM> wHATS KEYRING ANYWAYS?
[21:16] <MrKeuner> ^Eric, switched to linux from NT in around 2000 never thought about going back
[21:16] <XCoder2K9> thanks wjlafrance, I'll try to see if I can anything about it in Wien
[21:17] <John-_> Hello
[21:17] <^Eric> guntbert, Not at the moment.  Just looking to learn from watching.  Have lots of MacOS and Windows experience.  RIght now, I'm a sponge just learning from watching and listening.
[21:17] <zim> ArnoldMartinAddM: caps?
[21:17] <XCoder2K9> do you think there is a chance I can get it swapped (or upgraded, I'm even willing to pay a balance for the 256gb ssd model) there in Austria although I had purchased it in Switzerland?
[21:17] <possible1994> I can't get my bluetooth to work. It successfully scans for, finds, and adds my device, but fails to connect. I have tried updating compat-wireless from yesterday's git snapshop to on avail. Any other suggestions?
[21:17] <ArnoldMartinAddM> wont accept my damn keyring
[21:17] <ArnoldMartinAddM> this ubuntu1104
[21:17] <ArnoldMartinAddM> nely installed
[21:18] <zim> XCoder2K9: they would in the UK not sure there
[21:18] <guntbert> ^Eric: please do - if sometimes you want to just have a nice chat please visit #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:18] <^Eric> guntbert, You can count on me to be silent unless on-topic.  :)  Blessings.
[21:18] <John-_> Does any one have experience with Ubuntu server running Samba ?
[21:18] <FluxD> do. Can anyone explain the five options I get? ubuntu = default with unity, ubuntu 2d = without unity, gnome 3 = without compiz, gnome 3 classic = without what and fallback is gnome 2 ish ?
[21:19] <vladz> ArnoldMartinAddM: What do you mean, it does not accept your new password?
[21:19] <possible1994> I think my bluetooth worked in Ubuntu 11.04.
[21:20] <ArnoldMartinAddM> The keyring prompt wont accept my password
[21:20] <xangua> !nounity | FluxD
[21:20] <go8765> ActionParsnip, any ideas about hulrunner?
[21:20] <zim> FluxD: gnome3 = new gnome 2 = old gnome. Compiz 3d desktop and kewl effects. Unity what we are all supposed to learn to love
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> go8765: not even heardof it, sorry
[21:21] <guntbert> ArnoldMartinAddM: how did you change your password?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> zim: you dont have to.....
[21:21] <ArnoldMartinAddM> i am waiting
[21:21] <kszksz> how to delay a process to loaded from init.d for example some given time or after /media/usbdisks are mounted?
[21:21] <auronandace> FluxD: you could just keep it simple and use xfce
[21:21] <zim> ActionParsnip: it is getting that way
[21:21] <ArnoldMartinAddM> did not change it
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> zim: I use LXDE and openbox, no Unity, no compiz, no gnome3 desktop....
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> Unity was introduced to make Mint more popular
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> zim: Gnome isn't the only desktop
[21:22] <go8765> ActionParsnip, what mean - hearof?) google translate dont know too)
[21:22] <ArnoldMartinAddM> Is thre any way to disable or configure, newb here
[21:22] <John-_> how to set, if more than one user editing file, deny access ?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> zim: you could use KDE and not use Unity or Gnome3...
[21:22] <guntbert> ArnoldMartinAddM: do you log in to your account automatically?
[21:22] <FluxD> zim, xangua, I read that but wanted a more concise explanation. I am trying to get rid of unity, but keep certain aspects of it like wobbly windows worked perfectly fine in 10.10 but does not in 11.10 and I cant figure out why
[21:22] <ArnoldMartinAddM> yes
[21:22] <guntbert> !who | ArnoldMartinAddM
[21:22] <zim> I know that but unity is all you get now with 11.10+
[21:23] <xangua> zim: you have kubuntu, xubuntu and lubuntu
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> go8765: until you mentioned it I hadn't heard of it so no I have no "ideas" as you say. I thought I'd answered sufficiently....
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> zim: you can use gnome shell
[21:23] <guntbert> ArnoldMartinAddM: try this: log out, then you log in again (this time with your password) and then the key ring will not ask for the password
[21:23] <zim> yes yes i know that there is a rule 34b for ubuntu
[21:23] <FluxD> Anyway to just remove unity launcher and get default compiz working is all I want :)
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> zim: you can use Kubuntu 11.10 and it will be 11.10 and not have unity,,,
[21:24] <zim> Kubuntu != ubuntu
[21:24] <guntbert> ArnoldMartinAddM: if you are unable to log in that means you got your password wrong - just reboot in that case
[21:24] <^Eric> Pardon the intrusion... my Ubuntu install is "about a week old" and mostly default.  Is there an easy way to tile all the windows that are open on-screen?  (like right-clicking the taskbar in W$)
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> zim: no its not, you are ignoring one of the KEY ideologies in Linux
[21:24] <xangua> FluxD: if you want to configure compiz setting, use (sic) compiz settings manager
[21:24] <ArnoldMartinAddM> ok guntberg thanks a lot :0 that is I needed :)
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> zim: it is ubuntu under the hoos, just the default app set is different
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> *hood
[21:24] <John-_> how to set, if more than one user editing file, deny access ?
[21:25] <FluxD> xangua, I did but enabling one plugins breaks the whole thing and my screen freezes
[21:25] <guntbert> ArnoldMartinAddM: you're welcome :-)
[21:25] <go8765> ActionParsnip,  i try tu run instantbird  and have error message about hulrunner  (что значит:Could not find compatible GRE between version 2.0 and 2.0.0.*. ?).. i have this installed http://i.imm.io/eo4K.png
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> zim: the kernel is the one compiled for ubuntu in kubuntu and ubuntu, as is the X server and so on. Different DE doesn't make it a different distro. The packages are from exactly the samerepos
[21:25] <zim> All I am saying was I liked gnome and I am sure at some point I will like unity but it is not stable yet and has far to many bugs for it to be default
[21:26] <ArnoldMartinAddM> !gunbert ty
[21:26] <guntbert> ^Eric: you don't intrude, if there is a question just ask but keep in mind that not always answers will be available (I have none for your question)
[21:26] <auronandace> go8765: any reason you can't run empathy or pidgin?
[21:26] <guntbert> !tab | ArnoldMartinAddM
[21:26] <^Eric> Thanks for trying, guntbert.
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> zim: there is a guide on omgubuntu how to make Gnome3 look like Gnome2
[21:27] <^Eric> I gather I'm running Unity.  I haven't changed anything.  That's the default these days?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> go8765: I don't have firefox installed and extracted the instantbird archive, ran the binary and it ran ok
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> zim: in short you seem to be badmouthing oneiric when really you just dislike the gnome desktop
[21:28] <zim> ok ok so lets to this. Gnome3 -> Gnome2 -> Apple -> Winsh*t.  All I want is to install ubuntu on my desktop and start working
[21:28] <zim> unity has way to may bugs#
[21:28] <indiana> how do i install google chrome browser
[21:29] <xangua> indiana: go to google chrome web
[21:29] <guntbert> ^Eric: yes, unity is default now
[21:29] <auronandace> zim: i recomend using xfce
[21:29] <xangua> indiana: chromium browser also is already on the repository and it's 100% free software
[21:29] <MrKeuner> ^Eric, I do not think we have tiling feature. We have other features like multiple screen for organizing work windows
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> zim: try Xubuntu or Lubuntu. XFCE especially minics Gnome2's look
[21:29] <flintwingel> zim: you may be happier with Linux Mint (I'm going to be shot for this...)
[21:30] <John-_> is ubuntu server able to set, if more than one user editing file, deny access ?
[21:31] <Eric^> That was the sound of Unity panicking.  lol.
[21:31] <salvatore> Speak in to spanish somebody?
[21:31] <guntbert> !es | salvatore
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> !es| salvatore
[21:31] <zim> Everyone is missing the point. I love that *nux has choice. I love that when I get a Raspberry Pi there will be a desktop that is lighter than a feather that I can use. But I hate the fact that a flaky desktop that I have never had just work is the default
[21:32] <guntbert> zim: stop your ranting please - even if we feel with you
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> zim  i don't like the default, either, so i don't use it
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> zim: just use openbox and it will be super light
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> zim: its a WM but doesn't need a DE, so will be light as a feather
[21:33] <heather76> Hi ActionParsnip can you please help me ?
[21:33] <zim> MonkeyDust: I don't use it. my point is it should not be the default
[21:33] <salvatore> i have a question
[21:33] <salvatore> somebody can tell me
[21:34] <zim> salvatore: dont ask to ask just ask
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> !es
[21:34] <salvatore> how i can repair the sheltermanager for ubuntu ultime edition?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> salvatore: ultimate isn't supported here
[21:34] <jutnux> What is Ubuntu Ultimate Edition?
[21:34] <xangua> !ultimate | salvatore
[21:34] <zim> +1 to WTF
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> jsurfer: an unsupported ubuntu spinoff
[21:35] <salvatore> tanks for your information
[21:35] <guntbert> John-_: I don't understand what you need - but try to ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:35] <salvatore> its my first time in the irc
[21:35] <salvatore> have a nice day
[21:36] <John-_> On WINDOWS it's really easy to set permissions, there must be an easy way on Ubuntu to make it so only one user can access a file at a given time.
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> John-_: its easy, use chown and chmod
[21:36] <salvatore> yes its ultimate ubuntu edition
[21:37] <salvatore> i have trouble for open now in to the lasttime
[21:37] <salvatore> i was with linux mint
[21:37] <John-_> It needs to be set so if file open, deny access to other users
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> salvatore: both arent supported here
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> salvatore: we only support official releases here
[21:37] <John-_> Yet have the other users access to roam on the server
[21:37] <salvatore> action thanks i look the support now
[21:38] <flintwingel> John-_: does this help... http://www.hackinglinuxexposed.com/articles/20030623.html
[21:38] <w30> the best way to get rid of Unity is to install gnome-pane, gnome-shell, install ccsm,edit ccsm and uncheck unity set up cube, rotate cube ,export the resulting profile to a file then make and switch to a new profile using that exported file; poof Unity gone
[21:39] <John-_> It sort of does, I was trying with oplocks
[21:39] <FluxD> w30, I was told in compiz channel, compiz was hacked to work with unity, wont that break something ?
[21:39] <Pino> !list
[21:39] <w30> FluxD, yes it breaks Unity.
[21:40] <UwaNNaBuffa> ok im frustrated, i love ubuntu so i wanna delete windows and install it, but my cd rom drive is having issues and now my drive is full so i cant DL the ISO??? cant i just delete windows and then keep ubuntu how is it not that simple?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> UwaNNaBuffa: uninstall old kernels and run:  sudo apt-get clean
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> Pino  you forgot to say ciao, first
[21:40] <philwong> Can you burn dvd's on ubuntu?
[21:40] <fannagoganna> hi, is anyone able to get mpeg4ip (http://mpeg4ip.sourceforge.net/index.php) working on Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:40] <philwong> on a live cd
[21:41] <philwong> if you have another seperate dvd drive
[21:41] <UwaNNaBuffa> how do i uninstall old kernels?
[21:41] <zim> UwaNNaBuffa: put it on a usb key?
[21:42] <UwaNNaBuffa> which leads me to my next question how do i 'put it on a usb key'?
[21:42] <zim> UwaNNaBuffa: can  you boot from usb ?
[21:42] <UwaNNaBuffa> i could yes
[21:42] <UwaNNaBuffa> but i cant DL anything furthur
[21:42] <UwaNNaBuffa> my disc is full
[21:42] <zim> UwaNNaBuffa: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[21:43] <zim> UwaNNaBuffa: and delete some sh*t
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> UwaNNaBuffa: run:  uname -a   that is the CURRENT kernel. If you run:   dpkg -l | grep linux-image-     you will see the INSTALLED kernels
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> UwaNNaBuffa: You can uninstall any of the installed kernels but NOT the running kernel
[21:44] <philwong> can you burn dvd's on a live cd of ubuntu?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> UwaNNaBuffa: also do NOT uninstall linux-image-generic package
[21:44] <ArnoldMartinAddM> What is a good internet tv straming program for ubuntu?
[21:44] <zim> UwaNNaBuffa: is there anything on you windows partion you want to keep? if not use gparted to delete it and grow your linux one
[21:45] <UwaNNaBuffa> ok i ran that and i see them so how do i go about unistalling them just straight delete them
[21:45] <FluxD> The unity (?) feature that makes all the menu in top panel, can that be disabled ?
[21:45] <UwaNNaBuffa> there we go i want nothing from the windows side
[21:45] <flintwingel> philwong: depends if you've got any writable space to prepare the image for burning...
[21:45] <ArnoldMartinAddM> streaming
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: that is global menu
[21:45] <philwong> flintwingel: I mean if you have 2 cd drives
[21:45] <UwaNNaBuffa> the disc is partitioned into a backup windows if possible i would like to keep if ubuntu is a complete fail
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[21:45] <philwong> one for the live cd..can you burn dvd's from the other drive
[21:45] <philwong> while in live mode?
[21:45] <UwaNNaBuffa> c: is main d: is back up win
[21:46] <zim> UwaNNaBuffa: do you have ubuntu installed at all?
[21:46] <w30> UwaNNaBuffa, I suppose you could switch out usb keys and usb sd cards and get ubuntu on a usb key with  usb-creator
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> UwaNNaBuffa: sudo apt-get --purge remove packagename
[21:46] <John-_> Thanks for trying people =)
[21:46] <UwaNNaBuffa> i have ubuntu installed using WUBI
[21:46] <flintwingel> philwong: No. Generally you need some writable disk space to prepare a cd image prior to burning.
[21:47] <philwong> hmm
[21:47] <philwong> I see
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> UwaNNaBuffa: doesn't matter, you can save a tonne of space by removing the old kernels
[21:47] <w30> UwaNNaBuffa, have you got access to  a sd card and a usb key?
[21:47] <UwaNNaBuffa> i have something with 4gb of space i think its an sd disc or something will that work, if not i can wip out an ipod for the transfer
[21:47] <M4d3L1> anyone know good documentation on how to install apache2 with fastcgi and suexec?
[21:47] <UwaNNaBuffa> so i should run what you suggested ActionParsnip?
[21:48] <blunder> i have an Ubuntu vm running on citrix xenserver. I installed a different kernel and rebooted. Now i get initramfs type help for a list of commands
[21:48] <zim> UwaNNaBuffa: go see a friend do it there and make you life easy :-)
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> UwaNNaBuffa: you obviously need to change the package name to the installed kernel package name that is not the running kernel
[21:48] <UwaNNaBuffa> my friends suck and dont know anything of Ubuntu and i am hoping to be the pioneer and be that 'friend'
[21:49] <UwaNNaBuffa> obviously...
[21:49] <jutnux> I am 'that' friend \o/
[21:49] <zim> UwaNNaBuffa: they dont have to all they need is 700mb of free disk space and a internet connection
[21:49] <UwaNNaBuffa> sweet wanna hang out im in cali lets chill
[21:49] <zim> uk you welcome
[21:50] <UwaNNaBuffa> ok well i need to delete my windows side completely then use ubuntu which is currently using WUBI?
[21:50] <FluxD> ActionParsnip, thanks, I dont know why ubuntu devs are making ubuntu more and more like a mac....
[21:50] <zim> my point is get a bootablew usb key working. if you use http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ you will be able to install loads of distros on one usb key
[21:50] <UwaNNaBuffa> so how do i do that exactly
[21:51] <UwaNNaBuffa> ok
[21:51] <UwaNNaBuffa> follow link
[21:51] <zim> thats a start
[21:51] <UwaNNaBuffa> ok so i cant install anything at all on this drive its full
[21:51] <zim> full of what ?
[21:52] <UwaNNaBuffa> windows crapola
[21:52] <zim> then delete it
[21:52] <UwaNNaBuffa> i want to just use explosives and destroy it is that possible?
[21:52] <UwaNNaBuffa> k lets do that im all for deleting it
[21:53] <zim> crtl+a   then   shift+delete
[21:53] <blitz> lol
[21:53] <UwaNNaBuffa> is that like the alt f4 in winsdows noob death
[21:54] <zim> [21:54] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: they aren't
[21:54] <UwaNNaBuffa> ctrl a does nada
[21:54] <ubluntu> any reason not to uninstall pulseaudio ?? I just need alsa
[21:54] <blitz> can't you just format it
[21:54] <auronandace> UwaNNaBuffa: wubi is more of a demo than a solution to a problem
[21:55] <UwaNNaBuffa> ok so what now that i like it and want to keep it
[21:55] <UwaNNaBuffa> go delete manually a bunch of windows stuffs?
[21:55] <zim> UwaNNaBuffa: hold on stop before you break you pc
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> UwaNNaBuffa: wubi's disk is stored in your NTFS partition
[21:55] <UwaNNaBuffa> thx zim
[21:55] <UwaNNaBuffa> lol
[21:55] <UwaNNaBuffa> im breathing now
[21:55] <auronandace> UwaNNaBuffa: install ubuntu properly on it's own partition
[21:56] <UwaNNaBuffa> its been about 3 hair pullin days of this
[21:56] <auronandace> UwaNNaBuffa: if you need practice try it in a vm first
[21:56] <paolo1> l
[21:56] <UwaNNaBuffa> auronandace my disc is really crowded with a huge ugly windows program... cant add anything new
[21:57] <UwaNNaBuffa> gonna have to dive in to windows side and delete stuffs i think
[21:57] <UwaNNaBuffa> is it better to make boot disc in windows or ubuntu or doesnt matter?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: I'm running 12.04 pre-release and it looks like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Desktop.png   Looks nothing like a mac
[21:58] <auronandace> UwaNNaBuffa: doesn't matter, just burn the iso to a disk
[21:58] <UwaNNaBuffa> ok im sure ill be back, i hope i dont bug to much, id love one day to be able to council in these rooms, but fer now i feel retarded
[21:58] <blitz> windows 7 has an easy iso burner tho
[21:58] <FluxD> ActionParsnip, kde ?
[21:58] <UwaNNaBuffa> Vista...:(
[21:59] <blitz> nvm then
[21:59] <zim> I have never used wabi. So I am sure someone can step in here ...... delete it kill it etc then create a bootable usb installer boot from that delete the windows partition and bobs your abuser
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: lxde + openbox
[21:59] <auronandace> UwaNNaBuffa: we all start somewhere :)
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: looks nothing like a mac does it...
[21:59] <UwaNNaBuffa> ok how do i kill the wubi? from windows unistall yea?
[21:59] <FluxD> ActionParsnip, yea I am talking about default gnome version not something you customized :p
[21:59] <UwaNNaBuffa> ok i be back, wish me luck
[21:59] <tensorpudding> gnome-shell does not look enough like a mac
[21:59] <tensorpudding> that's my take
[21:59] <zim> I can't answer that never used it
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: that's Lubuntu (an official release) with a changed wallpaper and Faenza icon theme....
[22:00] <FluxD> I mean come on global app menu, where else do you see that
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: you mean "the Gnome Desktop is looking more like a mac"
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: Gnome is only default in ONE of the ubuntu family of releases....
[22:01] <auronandace> ActionParsnip: i noticed your window controls are on the left on that screenshot, is that by default now on lubuntu?
[22:01] <tensorpudding> it's too bad we have to have four different desktops so that there is no visual cohesion at all
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: no, i moved them over :)
[22:02] <auronandace> ActionParsnip: oh, good (made me seat then) :)
[22:02] <FluxD> ActionParsnip, and the most used, most consider it kind of the "original"
[22:02] <flintwingel> ActionParsnip: there isn't really a pure Gnome Ubuntu based distro anymore though... is there?
[22:02] <auronandace> sweat
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: irrelevant, Linux is as flexible and changeable as youo like
[22:02] <kszksz> how to set certain init.d script to be run last?
[22:02] <tensorpudding> flintwingel, no, but it's rather simple to get an authentic gnome experience
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> flintwingel: yes, Ubuntu uses Gnome by default
[22:03] <w30> ActionParsnip, lxde and xfce look a lot alike; Have you used both? What the difference?
[22:03] <hypershock> what is the method for taking a shared internet connection and making it so that the subordinate computer have an ip address in the same range was the primary ip address of the computer providing the share? I need to do this so my other computer can print to a network printer.
[22:03] <FluxD> ActionParsnip, then explain why I cannot move my unity launcher, to simply reposibition it the way like you have yours
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> w30: lxde seems a log nippier imho
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> hypershock  network type should be set to 'bridged'
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: you can move it to the bottom with a ppa if you want
[22:03] <auronandace> w30: lxde is lighter but i prefer xfce (just a taste thing i think)
[22:03] <blunder> is there a way to revert back to a kernel
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: you can move it if you want, you just need to recode it
[22:03] <FluxD> ActionParsnip, thats what I meant, I need an unofficial ppa to do it
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> blunder: hold shift at boot
[22:04] <blunder> the kernel i installed is not booting
[22:04] <tensorpudding> flintwingel, install gnome-shell, cantarell-fonts, configure the theme to adwaita, disable overlay scrollbars, log into the gnome session, and it'll feel just like the thing you see on the gnome.org site
[22:04] <flintwingel> ActionParnsip: Ubuntu is Gnome3+Unity... yes you can go to a pure Gnome3 setup (gnome2 is more problematic)
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: you can recompile it
[22:04] <ubluntu> any reason not to uninstall pulseaudio ?? I just need alsa
[22:04] <blunder> ActionParsnip: i tried that
[22:04] <hypershock> MonkeyDust: would that be the only change required?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> flintwingel: no, unity is a shell for gnome3
[22:04] <blunder> ActionParsnip: i am using Citrix XenServer to get to the console
[22:04] <w30> ActionParsnip, ha, Torvalds likes lxde
[22:04] <blunder> ActionParsnip: I don't think it is is seeing me holding shift
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> w30: I thought he was a KDE kid
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> hypershock  start with 'bridged', not NAT
[22:04] <dumnut> hi, i installed ubuntu 11.10, when i click on wireless icon, it doesn't show list of wireless connections available. how can i connect to wireless?
[22:04] <tensorpudding> ubluntu, probably will cause broken dependencies
[22:05] <blunder> ActionParsnip: i get to the initramfs busybox prompt
[22:05] <FluxD> Yea I read he moved to lxde after gnome 3 went mac-like lol
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> blunder: hold shift from as soon as the system starts to boot
[22:05] <blunder> ActionParsnip: I will try that again
[22:05] <tds5016> hi. can someone tell me what package has zic in it?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> FluxD: he's never liked gnome
[22:05] <tensorpudding> i think i should probably make a short blog post about how to make ubuntu 11.10 have an authentic gnome-shell experience
[22:05] <auronandace> !find zic | tds5016
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: what wifi chip do you use?
[22:06] <w30> ActionParsnip, he was knocking Gnome3 and Unity and said use Lxde or some thing like it.
[22:06] <flintwingel> ActionParsnip: I know that... but my point stands.. there is no "pure" Gnome Ubuntu anymore (unlike the K/L/X variants) ... and it's not that straightforward to get back to Gnome
[22:06] <tds5016> auronandace: thanks much.
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> tds5016  in a terminal, type apt-cache search zic
[22:06] <dumnut> hi ActionParsnip, i don't know, what command shows what wqifi chip i have?
[22:06] <auronandace> tds5016: no worries :)
[22:06] <FluxD> dumnut, lspci
[22:06] <tds5016> yeah, I was hoping to find the actual tar-ball.
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> flintwingel: XFCE is coded with gtk so you could use that
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: sudo lshw -C network
[22:07] <dotty> flintwingel, there are plans for a pure gnome3 distro
[22:07] <tds5016> this isn't for ubuntu :-/.
[22:07] <blunder> ActionParsnip: will initramfs get me anywhere? can i mount a disk and make a change to grub there?
[22:07] <blunder> ActionParsnip: any ideas are greatly appreciated
[22:07] <dotty> flintwingel, a spin of ubuntu, that is - similar to xubuntu and co
[22:07] <flintwingel> ActionParsnip: my comment wasn't about what I want to use (I was so traumatised by early Unity I've gone back to KDE) - more a general observation
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> blunder: you could chroot from a liveCD and change the default there
[22:07] <hypershock> MonkeyDust: eeek, i don't have that setting available in "edit connections". I have "dhcp, dhcp address only, link local, shared to other computers and disabled."
[22:08] <auronandace> dotty: they calling it gubuntu?
[22:08] <dotty> auronandace, no idea tbh, but perhaps :)
[22:08] <hypershock> oh dear, monkeydust has logged out, anyone else can help to setup a bridge connection?
[22:08] <blunder> ActionParsnip: I just might have to do that
[22:12] <blunder> ActionParsnip: ActionParsnip any links your can point me to?
[22:12] <dumnut> ActionParsnip RTL8101E PCI Express Fast Ethernet Controller
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> blunder: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: that's wired, not wireless. The hint is the word "Ethernet"
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: is it a usb wifi device?
[22:15] <jbwiv> anyone know of a video card with three dvi interfaces supported by unity? I can't get my two nvidia cards to work with unity using xinerama...only KDE4 works appropriately
[22:16] <dumnut> ActionParsnip: Ralink device 5390
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1751685
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1645716
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> dumnut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1843380
[22:20] <dumnut> ActionParsnip: i will look at urls you posted. thank-you forhelp
[22:23] <mx8> hi, How can i read data from incoming sockets ?
[22:26] <root> hola
[22:29] <Joshhsoj0> does ubunto support the drivers in the Sabertooth 990FX motherboard
[22:34] <peter-adfadfaj> A few files and folders on my external hard drive are 0 bytes. Is there any way to repair this?
[22:35] <peter-adfadfaj> *now show as 0 bytes
[22:36] <kupo_> maybe they're corrupted?
[22:37] <kszksz> is /media/usbdrive a remote filesystem? ($remote_fs)
[22:37] <DyeA> Ubunut newbish here, I just put Hardy Heron and LAMP on a remote machine. Tried to do the ole "service apache2 reload" and no go. Service command not found. How do I get that functionality on this machine?
[22:38] <blunder> ActionParsnip: ok i booted a livecd
[22:38] <peter-adfadfaj> Yes, they're corrupted. The drive isn't remote, but attached by USB.
[22:38] <blunder> ActionParsnip: i have the file system and can see my file structure
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> Joshhsoj0: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1850683.html   found that
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Joshhsoj0: http://www.overclock.net/t/1035333/official-asus-sabertooth-990fx-owners-club/1590
[22:39] <peter-adfadfaj> I'm going to try Foremost.
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> peter-adfadfaj: why not use your backups?
[22:40] <Mindkontrol> Hey all. What is the command for restarting a service like sshd? I thought it was etc/init.d/sshd restart
[22:40] <ohzie> Mindkontrol: looks right to me
[22:41] <ohzie> Mindkontrol: you can also use service sshd restart
[22:41] <Mindkontrol> ohzie: weird, says unrecognized service
[22:41] <Mindkontrol> hmm
[22:41] <Mindkontrol> how can i find out if sshd is running?
[22:42] <ohzie> Mindkontrol: "ps aux | grep ssh"
[22:43] <Mindkontrol> Yeah ok, says its running usr/sbin/sshd
[22:43] <Joshhsoj0> Thank you, ActionParsnip
[22:43] <Mindkontrol> so wtf
[22:43] <ohzie> Mindkontrol: "sudo ls /etc/init.d/ | grep ssh"
[22:43] <blunder> basically i booted from a livecd and i want to tell grub to use the other kernel that was working
[22:44] <blunder> is it as simple as editting a file?
[22:44] <Mindkontrol> ohzie: Well says ssh is running, but if i try sshd i get nothing
[22:44] <ohzie> Mindkontrol: "sudo ls /etc/init.d/ | grep ssh"
[22:45] <ohzie> tell me what comes back
[22:45] <ohzie> blunder: I don't know where the grub config file is. There used to be a really obvious file in the boot partition.
[22:45] <ohzie> or boot folter
[22:46] <hicham> hi, i just installed ubuntu and want to install the flash player can enyone help?
[22:47] <blunder> ohzie: i found a file buy it says do not edit this fiel
[22:47] <blunder> auto generated by grub-mkconfig
[22:47] <DyeA> Ubuntu newboid here, I just put Hardy Heron and LAMP on a remote machine. Tried to do the ole "service apache2 reload" and no go. Service command not found. How do I get that functionality on this machine?
[22:47] <ohzie> Hmm
[22:47] <ubluntu> hicham: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[22:47] <hicham> ok i will give it a try
[22:47] <ohzie> DyeA: The new service command is not on the old Hardy Heron release. =P
[22:48] <ohzie> DyeA: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hicham: enable partner repo
[22:48] <hicham> ubluntu, i can't install it
[22:48] <ohzie> DyeA: I might seriously consider upgrading that though, before I run it as a production machine.
[22:48] <DyeA> ohzie: I kind of wondered that might be the case but our work dev machine has 8.04 and I can do "service" commands on it!!! I don't get it!
[22:49] <ohzie> DyeA: Weird! :P
[22:49] <DyeA> ohzie: why upgrade?
[22:49] <ubluntu> hicham: open your /etc/apt/sources.list and enable partner repo by removing the #
[22:49] <DyeA> ohzie: best practice or are they vulnerabilities?
[22:49] <ohzie> DyeA: best practice in case there are vulnerabilities.
[22:50] <ohzie> DyeA: I'm not knowledgeable of anything specific.
[22:50] <hicham> ubluntu where can i found the etc?
[22:50] <ohzie> DyeA: but getting the newest stuff is generally easier, and that's good for dev work.
[22:50] <ubluntu>  hicham its a folder.
[22:50] <DyeA> ohzie: ahhh well, its a LTS... I had natty narwhal on it but i am installing the concrete CMS and I couldn't get cgi.path_info to work
[22:50] <ohzie> ahh
[22:50] <DyeA> ohzie: after several hours I just gave up
[22:51] <DyeA> ohzie: maybe I will give 10 a try
[22:52] <ubluntu> hicham: like gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:53] <hicham> ubluntu i did want to change it, but it tels me i don't have the right
[22:53] <laSt_duDe> hi everyone! it is my first time ever using ubuntu and unix in general, so i am a total noob. i need help installing graphics drivers as i have never done this before. someone please can guide me?
[22:54] <Frantic_> Hello
[22:54] <Frantic_> Im having  issues installing ubuntu on my netbook.
[22:54] <christopher9812> is there a way to have a server with ubuntu and have a lab with 25 computers with network user accounts?
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> Frantic_: what issues?
[22:55] <ubluntu> christopher9812: what do you want to do exactly??
[22:55] <ubluntu> ssh? share files?
[22:55] <christopher9812> not exactly
[22:56] <blunder> basically i want it to boot vmlinuz.old
[22:56] <christopher9812> Im wanting to have a computer lab with a ubuntu operating system
[22:56] <blunder> and revert back
[22:56] <blunder> not sure how i can do this from livecd
[22:56] <Frantic_> I have installed ubuntu 11.10 onto aa flash card. I have booted from the flash card. run the installation. rebooted and all i get is a screen with a flashing underscore on a black background.
[22:56] <ubluntu> christopher9812: thats not very specific. but you can have a computer lab with all ubuntu sure.....
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> christopher9812: ok what will the server give to the clients?
[22:56] <hicham> ubluntu i the file source.list, i can't change it because i don't have the rights
[22:56] <laSt_duDe> please someone can tell me how to update graphic drivers?
[22:57] <Frantic_> Ive tried to install different versions of ubuntu but none work
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> Frantic_: what GPU do you use?
[22:57] <hicham> permisions
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: what GPU?
[22:57] <ubluntu> hicham: did you in a terminal type gksudo /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[22:57] <laSt_duDe> intel gma950
[22:57] <Frantic_> GPU?
[22:57] <christopher9812> I would like to store the user accounts on the server
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> hicham: gksudo gedot /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:57] <ubluntu> christopher9812: oh thin clients ?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> christopher9812: so you want an LDAP server
[22:58] <christopher9812> windows server 2003 allows for accounts to be created and logged into from other computers
[22:58] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip oneiric
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> christopher9812: LDAP is the equivelant of Windows AD
[22:59] <christopher9812> supose on the server I create 3 user accounts: chris, charles, chuck. I want to go to any of the 25 computers and log in
[22:59] <wingnut2626> Hey I made a mistake.   I typed "sudo chmod 700 /" now I cannot use the sudo prefix.  How do I fix that?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel oneiric
[23:00] <Frantic_> actionparsnip: i honoustly have no cluje
[23:00] <Frantic_> clue*
[23:00] <blunder> it's not that my grub isn't working, it's that i can't see it to boot into my original kernel
[23:00] <hicham> it tels me i am not the owner
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> Frantic_: what is the make and model of the system?
[23:00] <Frantic_> im using an Acer Aspire One GZ5
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> hicham: you aren't but the command I gave runs gedit with extra access and you will get write access
[23:01] <christopher9812> on the 25 computers I would like to have ubuntu desktop 10.04
[23:01] <hicham> i did the command, but no changes
[23:01] <hicham> gksudo gedot /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:01] <Frantic_> i did some lookin and it origonaly came with linpus
[23:01] <hicham> ?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: there is a later diver here but the PPA is *VERY* experimental and unstable, your choice; https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[23:01] <Greatjon> hey ubuntus :)
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> Frantic_: its some intel integrated thing, try the boot option:  nomodeset
[23:02] <Frantic_> how do i do that?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset
[23:02] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: what do i have to do now? it shows me some lines i can't understand
[23:02] <curios789> Hey guys...I run two ATI Radeon 5570s, any way I can get Ubuntu to use all three of my monitors?
[23:03] <Frantic_> !nomodeset where do i type this, were do i enter it?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade      then cross your fingers and then hope and prey
[23:04] <WhiteOwl-m> I hope you appreciate stupid n00b questions, I will have to recompile ndiswrapper tomorrow.. I will bombard you guys..
[23:04] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: are those stable drivers? i don't want beta ones
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> hicham: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list    will open it edittable
[23:05] <wingnut2626> No ideas guys?
[23:05] <hicham> yes i did that but when i edit it, it still the same problem
[23:05] <alien2050> Frantic: from the live CD, you just hit F6 then put a crossmark on nomodeset, or if you've already installed, just hit "E" on the ubuntu entry, go down in the menu and add nomodeset after "ro"
[23:05] <hicham> it still tels me i have not the permissions
[23:05] <ubluntu> hicham: after you enter your pw?
[23:05] <Frantic_> actionparsnip: Where do ienter !nomodeset
[23:06] <alien2050> Frantic_: I just answered you
[23:06] <hicham> ubluntu what is pw?
[23:06] <ubluntu> hicham: your password
[23:06] <hicham> yes ubluntu
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> Frantic_: read the link, you need to add: nomodeset    as the boot option, not with the bang
[23:07] <blunder> is there a way to remove a broken kernel from a system using the livecd?
[23:07] <alien2050> Frantic_: you can also modify it in your grub.cfg, but I'd test it before
[23:07] <Frantic_> okay, how would i modify it in my grub.cfg and test it prior
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> Frantic_: you don't
[23:08] <hicham> now when i do the code again it gives me can't find modulepath 'pixmap'
[23:08] <alien2050> blunder: yep... you need to mount your ubuntu install from the live cd, edit the grub.cfg entry, remove the broken kernel that'sit
[23:08] <Frantic_> thanks kay :D
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions  | hicham
[23:08] <curios789> Hey guys...I run two AMD Radeon 5570s, any way I can get Ubuntu to use all three of my monitors? It seems to only be using ONE of my graphics cards.
[23:08] <ubluntu> Frantic_: just use e to edit the kernel line before you press enter to boot it in grub and add that option for a one time use.
[23:09] <blunder> alien2050: it says i can't edit the file
[23:09] <blunder> alien2050: says it is autogenerated
[23:09] <blunder> alien2050: do i just ignore that?
[23:09] <Frantic_> oh man im feeling over whelmed by my noobness.
[23:09] <alien2050> doesn't matter, it's just to scare newbies it works fine
[23:09] <curios789> ati* ugh
[23:09] <curios789> lol
[23:09] <hicham> what is !bootoptions? actionpasnip
[23:10] <Frantic_> use e?
[23:10] <alien2050> just ensure that you remove the whole entry with the broken kernel entry... not just one line
[23:10] <ubluntu> Frantic_: yea you can use e to edit the line
[23:10] <alien2050> it should be enclosed in brackets or something
[23:10] <blunder> alien2050: ok
[23:11] <Frantic_> okay e, what the heck is e?
[23:11] <ubluntu> the letter e? comes after d
[23:11] <alien2050> the key "e" :)
[23:11] <WhiteOwl-m> :D
[23:11] <Frantic_> before f
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> hicham: was for Frantic_
[23:11] <JBunny> hi everyone. back again.  just wonder if there is a way to optomize my internet connection, something similar to what TCP Optimizer does in Windows.
[23:11] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: so there are absolutely no stable drivers for this GPU?
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Frantic_: the button to the left of R.
[23:11] <Frantic_> i use e to edit the file
[23:12] <Frantic_> i dont get that
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: what Intel chip do you have?
[23:12] <alien2050> you won't edit the file, it's when you boot
[23:12] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: gma950
[23:12] <iceroot> JBunny: yes, buy a better connection
[23:12] <alien2050> you have a scroll down menu, select "ubuntu .... blahblah blah"
[23:12] <alien2050> and hit the "E" key
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: dude I use a 945GM and its fine
[23:13] <blunder> hmm if i can tell it to just boot a diff by default that would work too
[23:13] <blunder> i see there is a submenu section previous linux versions
[23:13] <JBunny> iceroot: not very funny.
[23:13] <alien2050> then you'll see what's really happening behind the scenes (which is actually an excerpt from grub.cfg)
[23:13] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu itself work fine for me too but opengl is slow as hell
[23:13] <blunder> i just need to default it to taht
[23:13] <iceroot> JBunny: why? its the correct answer to your question
[23:13] <Frantic_> . kay, i will be back.
[23:13] <laSt_duDe> I want to play nes emulator on it
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: you may need to make an xorg.conf  to make the driver behave
[23:13] <alien2050> just add "nomodeset" after ro
[23:14] <iceroot> JBunny: strange optimation tools are funny
[23:14] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: how do i do this?
[23:14] <toninho> ola genteee
[23:14] <alien2050> that should do it, for a one time try at least... if you're satisfied, just edit your grub.cfg by typing "sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[23:14] <toninho> alguem tá ai?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: websearch around, you'll find sample files. You will need: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf     to get write access to the file...
[23:14] <toninho> alguem fala português?
[23:14] <toninho> ?
[23:15] <toninho> helowwww
[23:15] <blunder> or if i could get grub to display as text instead of video
[23:15] <blunder> that might work too
[23:15] <iceroot> JBunny: what do you expect? downloading with 2mbit/s on a 1mbit/s connection? reducing the ping-results from 80ms to 1ms?
[23:15] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: sorry i don't get any of this, its my first time using unix and i am only 14 :P
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: you'll learn as you use the OS
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: intel gpus can be a pain
[23:16] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: I hope i will learn by time, but for now I cannot game :/
[23:16] <alien2050> laSt_duDe: it's the perfect age to start... I started MSDOS at 11 so :) no worries, you'll pick it up!
[23:16] <JBunny> iceroot: i just want to know if there is a way to maximize my connection. get the most out of the 1.5mb/s i am paying for. that's all.
[23:17] <iceroot> JBunny: the most of 1.5mb/s is 1.5mb/s
[23:17] <iceroot> JBunny: what do you want to optimzie?
[23:17] <ubluntu> iceroot: you never even get 100% :-)
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: NES emulators aren't incredibly system intensive. Have you tried Unity2d session?
[23:17] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: so i write that commands in console?
[23:17] <iceroot> ubluntu: of course you can get 100% but inside the 100% there are also the header-infomations, crc and so on
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: I'd try Unity2D first
[23:18] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: What is that?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: log off and select it in the cog menu at the login screen
[23:18] <JBunny> iceroot: i was hoping for a tool of some kind to make sure i get as much of that as i can. like i said, something similar if possible to the windows tool TCP Optimizer. I just want to try and get the best connection i can.
[23:18] <iceroot> JBunny: please dont trust strange windows-software which is telling you to speed up your internet-connection, or to optimize the system (regcleaner) and so on
[23:18] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: What does that to?
[23:19] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: just want to learn :)
[23:20] <iceroot> JBunny: wget http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/11.10/release/ubuntu-11.10-dvd-i386.iso
[23:20] <iceroot> JBunny: what is the result?
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: it doesn't need any 3D accelleration, may be smoother for you. Try it
[23:21] <WhiteOwl-m> hm, which GUI would you choose for ubuntu server if you are so windows-tarded that you just need something to click on? xubuntu?
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: you'll learn by trying
[23:21] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: ok thank you very much
[23:21] <iceroot> WhiteOwl-m: servers dont have a gui
[23:21] <ubluntu> WhiteOwl-m: yea or fluxbox
[23:21] <WhiteOwl-m> I know.
[23:21] <Crash_O-D> im trying to install video drivers and get jockey log http://paste.ubuntu.com/799978/
[23:21] <iceroot> WhiteOwl-m: why installing server-edition if you want a gui
[23:21] <WhiteOwl-m> I tried webmin but I read it's not supported
[23:21] <JBunny> iceroot: im not sure what you mean.
[23:21] <alien2050> WhiteOwl-m: i'd say KDE; similar look and feel as M$
[23:21] <WhiteOwl-m> fluxbox
[23:21] <iceroot> JBunny: download the iso to see your speed
[23:22] <WhiteOwl-m> ok, I note it
[23:22] <arphetic> Hi, how can i burn an iso file to an usb stick?
[23:22] <WhiteOwl-m> thank you very much :)
[23:22] <iceroot> JBunny: and see also that any of these strange optimiziers are useless
[23:22] <hicham> that is what i get:  Gtk-WARNING **: Kan themamodule niet vinden in modulepad: ‘pixmap
[23:22] <iceroot> arphetic: an ubuntu-iso?
[23:22] <WhiteOwl-m> well, iceroot, it's not gonna be a webserver.. more like a home
[23:22] <arphetic> a windows xp iso
[23:22] <arphetic> actually
[23:22] <iceroot> arphetic: ##windows
[23:23] <JBunny> iceroot: fluctuates anywhere from a few kb/s to 150kb/s
[23:23] <arphetic> ##windows wont tell me how to make a bootable usb disk in ubuntu
[23:23] <alien2050> arphetic: of course they wont ;) .... but try unetbootin
[23:23] <iceroot> arphetic: dd the image (if windows isos are supporting it)
[23:24] <iceroot> JBunny: wifi? or wired?
[23:24] <JBunny> iceroot: wired
[23:24] <iceroot> JBunny: 1.5MBit/s
[23:24] <iceroot> JBunny: ?
[23:24] <Crash_O-D> can someone help with my issue please/
[23:25] <JBunny> iceroot: that's what i pay for is 1.5mb/s
[23:25] <alien2050> arphetic: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[23:25] <Barnabas> anyone using HP servers ILO cards with ubuntu server
[23:25] <hicham> when i put this command: gksudo gedot /etc/apt/sources.list that is what i get : (gksudo:3513): Gtk-WARNING **: Kan themamodule niet vinden in modulepad: ‘pixmap’,
[23:25] <arphetic> alien2050, i just want to burn the installation file to the usb disk, not actually install XP on the disk. Will UnetBootin still do this?
[23:25] <iceroot> JBunny: MBit?
[23:25] <iceroot> JBunny: mb is normally used for MByte
[23:25] <acerimmer> !ask
[23:25] <Barnabas> how to enable console in a format ssh to ilo accepts
[23:25] <alien2050> arphetic: not sure I understand, but if you want a live USB with ubuntu on it, try this tool
[23:26] <Crash_O-D> im trying to install video drivers ati/amd fglrx and get jockey log http://paste.ubuntu.com/799978/ hoe do i fix this?
[23:26] <JBunny> iceroot: im paying for a 1.5megabyte connection. it's DSL.
[23:26] <alien2050> arphetic: cuz you're talking about XP which I don't get.... why......
[23:26] <hicham> someone?
[23:27] <Barnabas> and who .. WHO decided to change it from a standard console in the first place ... :-)
[23:27] <arphetic> alien2050, I have ubuntu, i want to install XP next to Ubuntu. Thus I dloaded an installation cd of XP, and im trying to burn that iso to a USB stick, so i can boot the installation from that USB stick, so i can install XP next to ubuntu
[23:27] <alien2050> hicham: it shouldn't matter
[23:27] <iceroot> JBunny: so its DSL 12.000? never heard of such a strange value
[23:27] <alien2050> hicham: if it opens, then it's fine, ignore the warnings
[23:27] <iceroot> JBunny: i only know 2000, 6000 and 16000 DSL and 25000/50000 VDSL
[23:28] <hicham> it doesn't open alien2050
[23:28] <alien2050> arphetic: usually it's the other way around, because M$ will gladly erase your boot sector
[23:28] <JBunny> iceroot: im not sure what you mean but i have AT&T and upgraded to what they said was 1.5megabytes from there lowest which was something like 768 kilobytes.
[23:28] <alien2050> hicham: are u doing a remote session (ssh -X) ?
[23:28] <arphetic> i know
[23:28] <arphetic> its backed up
[23:28] <alien2050> hicham: maybe your display variable isn't set in this case
[23:28] <hicham> alien 2050 what do you mean
[23:28] <acerimmer> arphetic: and the M$ boot sector erase is why it's recommended to install ubuntu AFTER m$
[23:28] <iceroot> JBunny: i just thing you get MegaBit and MegaByte wrong
[23:29] <iceroot> JBunny: connection speed is normally always used with MBit and not MByte
[23:29] <paolo1> someone help me please
[23:29] <alien2050> hicham: well, if you got an X session opened, usually a simple gedit should work
[23:29] <paolo1> ?
[23:29] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: didn't do the trick :(
[23:29] <JBunny> iceroot: i did not know that
[23:29] <paolo1> i want update kernel
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> paolo1: ask away
[23:29] <israel> paolo1: and ur problem is?
[23:29] <alien2050> hicham: you can also try "vi" but it's a little bit more advanced although much more powerful
[23:29] <hicham> and what is an x session? it is my first time i work with linux
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> paolo1: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:29] <paolo1> but i have backtrack 5 based ubuntu 10.05 lts
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> paolo1: ask in #backtrack-linux
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> paolo1: backtrack isn't supported here
[23:30] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: I know the hardware works, i played even n64 in windows on this computer
[23:30] <paolo1> i not know becouse i banned
[23:30] <iceroot> JBunny: and 1.5MBit are 1500KBit which is 187.5KByte
[23:30] <arphetic> alien2050, also I was trying to just write the iso to a cd, however ubuntu doesnt recognize my cd when i put it in
[23:30] <alien2050> hicham: if you have a 2d interface in front of you and your mouse is moving, then you have an Xsession opened
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: different OS has different support.
[23:30] <iceroot> JBunny: so a download speed of 150Kbyte is very good because there are also header informations for the package and so on (overhead)
[23:30] <alien2050> hicham: beit kde, gnome, etc
[23:30] <iceroot> JBunny: so your connection is fine
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> paolo1: then ask in #freenode
[23:31] <hicham> no, i don't think i have an 2d session now opend
[23:31] <paolo1> i have see http://www.kernel.org/ kernel 3.1.8 stable
[23:31] <JBunny> iceroot: sorry. guess i misunderstood then. thanks
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> laSt_duDe: try 12.04 live CD,  or 10.04 live CD, see if it helps
[23:31] <alien2050> hicham: so you got a console in front of you, not a graphical session
[23:31] <paolo1> can add this kernel in my backtrack
[23:31] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: but nes emulation wouldn't even need 3d acceleration, that has to work here too or not?
[23:31] <iceroot> !backtrack | paolo1
[23:31] <alien2050> hicham: then definitely go with "vi"
[23:31] <alien2050> it'll work
[23:32] <laSt_duDe> ActionParsnip: ok i try thx
[23:32] <Crash_O-D> im trying to install video drivers ati/amd fglrx and get jockey log http://paste.ubuntu.com/799978/ how do i fix this?
[23:32] <hicham> a maybe it is an 2d if it is graphic and the mouse in front of me is moving
[23:32] <paolo1> i ' m banned in backtrack
[23:32] <alien2050> arphetic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[23:32] <iceroot> paolo1: and this is not backtrack support channel
[23:32] <paolo1> ok
[23:32] <alien2050> arphetic: try with the utility "k3b" or "brasero"
[23:33] <paolo1> i not resolve never this problem
[23:33] <paolo1> i can t entry in backtrack
[23:33] <iceroot> paolo1: #freenode
[23:33] <iceroot> paolo1: we are not the backtrack channel and we are not the freenode channel
[23:33] <iceroot> paolo1: sorry
[23:33] <hicham> alien2050 is there another way to instal flashplayer?
[23:33] <paolo1> and in backtrack-it No one answers ever
[23:34] <paolo1> he have 8 user
[23:34] <iceroot> paolo1: to be honest, we dont care
[23:34] <arphetic> alien2050, to burn to CD you mean?
[23:34] <alien2050> hicham: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[23:34] <alien2050> arphetic: yep
[23:34] <TA5K> Hi, when is the official kernel 3.2 upgrade for Ubuntu 11.10 expected?
[23:34] <arphetic> alien2050, due to some bug, Ubuntu wont recognise my cdrom drive
[23:34] <alien2050> arphetic: try unetbootin if you want to burn to usb
[23:34] <arphetic> so thats not going to work
[23:34] <iceroot> TA5K: never
[23:35] <alien2050> arphetic: then burn directly the iso to USB, forget cd
[23:35] <tellone> what does the /dev/log file do?
[23:35] <israel> !log | tellone
[23:36] <paolo1> i have only 1 question.. in backtrack5 I update the kernel and put the 3.1.8 from the site http://www.kernel.org?
[23:36] <TA5K> iceroot: so I go for the manual install, thanks
[23:36] <paolo1> only this question
[23:36] <israel> tellone: it store a lot of linux log's
[23:36] <iceroot> paolo1: are you not listening?
[23:36] <ddsfsd> ğ
[23:36] <ddsfsd> ş
[23:36] <ddsfsd> s
[23:36] <JBunny> one more question while i'm here: can anyone recommend a book or site that can help me better learn to use Ubuntu? This is my second day in Ubuntu and I'd really like to learn.
[23:36] <paolo1> answer yes or not
[23:36] <paolo1> and i go
[23:36] <arphetic> trying unetbootin now
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> paolo1: your OS isn't supported here
[23:37] <nerxgas> how do i restore my boot partition to factory settings, the computer store wont accept my return because the laptop has ubuntu installed!
[23:37] <iceroot> paolo1: that is even not a question from you
[23:37] <hicham> alien2050 you are the best man!!
[23:37] <paolo1> ok bye
[23:37] <iceroot> paolo1: and now stop this backtrack-thing
[23:37] <acerimmer> JBunny: http://www.amazon.com/Official-Ubuntu-Book-Benjamin-Hill/dp/0132748509
[23:37] <jason> I was wondering if anyone has used GAMIN package before and if it allows notifications via email when changes occur?
[23:37] <israel> JBunny: u dont need books there's a lot of information in the net just search tutorials
[23:38] <daya> I am trying to compile  C program in Ubuntu 11.10 including pow function with gcc -lm <file.c>, it says, undefined reference to pow, any idea?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> daya: have you asked in #c
[23:38] <arphetic> Btw, im going to follow the following manual: http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_linux_and_windows_xp_linux_installed_first.htm . This covers the MBR too i think alien2050
[23:38] <JBunny> israel: any you would recommend? i'm essentially brand new so I was hoping to find something written very plainly.
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> nerxgas: you may need to add a boot option so that the recovery partiton boots (assuming you didn't remove it)
[23:39] <tellone> thanks ubottu have been looking for that link forever
[23:39] <daya> ActionParsnip, I raised the issue in #gcc, yet to get the response
[23:40] <WhiteOwl-m> I have a prelimenary question to all my questions tomorrow
[23:40] <WhiteOwl-m> does anyone have a good guide which helps with compiling?
[23:40] <trism> daya: you need to specify the libraries after the code in oneiric, so: gcc file.c -lm
[23:40] <JoshieS> what are the system requirmentd
[23:40] <WhiteOwl-m> I have a wlan usb stick which is not supported by ubuntu but I can compile that win-driver-program to do it..
[23:40] <israel> JBunny: i've never read a book, i just have the problem and i read about the problem =(
[23:41] <daya> trism, hmm, it works, thanks, does it makes any difference on the use of -lm option before and after the file.
[23:41] <JBunny> israel: ok. i guess thats how i'll have to try and handle it for now.
[23:41] <TA5K> What does PAE mean in "linux-image-3.2.0-030200-generic-pae"
[23:41] <JBunny> bye everyone
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> !pae
[23:42] <TA5K> !pae
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> TA5K: the link explains it
[23:42] <TA5K> ActionParsnip: nice hint, thx
[23:43] <tellone> wait is /dev/log an irc-log?
[23:44] <Crash_O-D> can anyone help or direct me were to get help please on im trying to install video drivers ati/amd fglrx and get check jockey log http://paste.ubuntu.com/799978/ how do i fix this?
[23:44] <escott> banshee seems to like to rename my files and then stop halfway through. if I played my entire album collection I think I could trigger it to rename things consistently, but is there another way I can do this?
[23:44] <josh123a123> can some one help me with the ubuntu install, its getting stuck after the reboot, just after the install trys to start
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> josh123a123: what GPU do you use?
[23:45] <josh123a123> what...
[23:45] <Crash_O-D> graphics card
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> josh123a123: what video card do you use?
[23:45] <israel> josh123a123: =S
[23:45] <josh123a123> geforce 540
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> josh123a123: GPU == graphical processing unit
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> josh123a123: then your GPU is a GeForce 540 ;)
[23:46] <aBound> I use a GeForce 580M GTX. :P
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> josh123a123: add the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[23:46] <TA5K> aBound: and it works in powersave mode??
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> I use a Gefore 6150LE  ....
[23:47] <aBound> TA5K, Powersave mode where's that at?
[23:47] <alien2050> hicham: np, glad I could help
[23:47] <TA5K> aBound: or do you  struggle the same powerconsumption problem with linux on notebooks?
[23:48] <aBound> TA5K, Haven't a clue I'm sure the power regression hasn't been fixed yet.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> TA5K: my notebook runs power stuff just dandy
[23:48] <aBound> At times my battery life will say 1hr or 2hrs left.
[23:48] <TA5K> aBound: If I use Win7 with my 940M I have around 10h battery time, if I use Ubuntu I have 1.5h :(
[23:49] <aBound> TA5K, By default my laptop only has a battery life of 2.5hrs.
[23:49] <aBound> From what the website told me about it.
[23:50] <TA5K> aBound: so your 540m is eating too much :)
[23:51] <oneliner> well thats another nice surprise ,.. no java?
[23:51] <oneliner> anyone knows if eclipse runs OK with open jdk?
[23:51] <TA5K> aBound: I'm just on it because I tried to disable my NV GPU via bumblebee or ironhead yesterday, but unfortunately it's still enabled
[23:52] <TA5K> These are really sad days for using Linux on mobile devices ... I wish I find a solution
[23:52] <aBound> TA5K, Well I think the battery in itself is a 3-Cell battery.
[23:52] <rixter_> anyone use the imdb-tools package?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> TA5K: that dual gpu nonsense isnothing but a headacahe
[23:52] <aBound> From what I heard the Macbook Pros have a battery life of up to 7hrs but use a 6-cell battery instead of 3.
[23:54] <alien2050> oneliner: pretty sure it should work fine, provided you link the bins properly for eclipse to find
[23:54] <rixter_> so... no one uses the imdb-tools?
[23:55] <alien2050> oneliner: did you look here : http://hype-free.blogspot.com/2008/06/using-eclipse-with-openjdk-6-on-ubuntu.html
[23:56] <aBound> TA5K, This is the machine I run on. More or less it's probably a power regression issue in the kernel.
[23:56] <aBound> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/06/system76-serval-professional-review/
[23:57] <oneliner> alien2050: will peek
[23:57] <TA5K> ActionParsnip: I totally agree... I changed to Linux with 11.04 .. and I would like to use Linux only, but it's simply not possible because of the dual-gpu ***
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> TA5K: should've researched a little ;)
[23:58] <mash_> l
[23:59] <WhiteOwl-m> yeah, not properly researching cost me 40 bucks today, but I might be able to fix it :D
[23:59] <aBound> For my laptop it says this: The laptop comes with a 6 cell battery by default which lasts around 2.5 hours under general use
[23:59] <Frantic_> Hello!
[23:59] <aBound> Battery life does suck on my laptop.