[04:08] quick suggestion - 'activate focus stealing prevention' in 'windows manager tweaks' should be default. [04:38] ok, i take that back. because it stops even applications i start deliberately from going to the front. [04:38] i guess that makes sense, since it is programmatically hard to determine if something is being opened by me right now, or spawned by something else... [04:38] but yea, i take it back. :) [04:42] You're funny... [04:42] haha yea sometimes. :) i was all like omg, focus stealing prevention, that sounds awesome! [04:43] then i go ctl-alt-f and ctl-alt-t to start a browser window or terminal, or click a link in xchat irc... and it goes to the back. and i'm like omg whyyyy? :) [04:44] and thus ended by brief love affair with focus stealing prevention. :) [07:42] madnick, ? :) [07:53] knome: [07:55] want to go through some theming stuff today? [08:00] knome: sorry, i will not be home today [08:00] no problem [08:00] but tommorrow is a good day [08:01] i'm not sure how well that works for me, but might [08:01] okay [11:59] hello [11:59] is there on site listed default apps in Xubuntu 12.04? [12:00] no. though nothing critical is changing [12:20] ok, I have updated wiki sites with newest information :) [12:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu [13:02] mr_pouit, you there? [13:17] what do you people think: how often do people need a spreadsheet editor? do you think it's worth keeping on in the default installation, or could we do well without one? [13:18] we should make DVD [13:19] with LibreOffice [13:19] disagree with that, but you are free to undertake the big xubuntu dvd project ;) [13:19] :D [13:29] Ubuntu has LO, Kubuntu has LO too, why Xubuntu couldnt have too :] [13:29] one reason is cd space =] [13:31] (e.g. more apps included by default => less language packs available by default) [13:41] you want allways keep on CD? In times where DVD is same price and speed like CD? It is weird [13:42] I dont mean have 2.2 GB, but only 1.2 - 1.3GB [13:42] where we could add more software [13:42] deafult installed on system [13:43] time need to install will be same and users dont feel difference [13:44] I have been installing Linux Mint and openSUSE which have 2.2GB DVD and time was even faster than Ubuntu [14:02] we got a shout out on omgbuntu: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/kubuntu-xubuntu-12-04-become-long-term-support-releases/ [14:02] errrrrrrrrrrrrr [14:02] what's the thing with fuzzing with our logo? [14:18] OSWorld shout too: http://osworld.pl/2012/01/10/xubuntu-12-04-kubuntu-12-04-edubuntu-12-04-zostaja-wlaczone-do-lts/ [14:18] :) [14:41] huh? :P [15:06] hehe 38 new emails [15:08] good morning everyone [15:08] morning scott-work [16:06] A quick stop before losing the internet today [16:07] Maybe-ubiquity is on the desktop cd's. Unfortunately, it goes straight to the live session, and there is no way to install Xubuntu. [16:07] You have to interupt the boot by holding right-shift (I think) to get a cd menu to install using the precise desktop images today [16:09] I will wait until tomorrow to file the bugs on this, since I need to check them on hardware yet. [16:09] I have question, how much time it takes to updates on system, current fixed translations on site [16:10] I have beed translated Xfce Orage [16:10] Until the translations are merged to Orage and then synced to Debian and Ubuntu [16:11] do you have some orientations of how much takes recently? [16:11] I don't have, no. [16:12] First thing that happens is Xfce publishes the new version with the translations, then we can get that version. [16:12] :) [17:54] micahg: you told me previously you use a term in the changelog for the release when it hasn't been released for a particular version [17:55] micahg: i believe you use 'UNRELEASED' for this term [17:55] scott-work: yes [17:55] by the way, i am back into updating the ubuntu studio theme-ui rebasing on xubuntu work again [17:55] although i have now parsing the xubuntu code into ubuntu studio's current packages [17:55] i have three packages already done, probably don't need to touch the others currently [17:56] i plan to start test building tonight, then file the bug report, add the LP: # to the changelogs and push to bzr [17:56] also update the seeds accordingly [17:57] ScottL: I'm heading out now, but will be back later [17:57] no problem :) [18:00] knome: did you still need to talk to me? [18:00] humm [18:00] i think i need guidance on where to head with the US website [18:00] i'm hoping to make a major push on the website this weekend given the email from rt@ubuntu [18:00] hehe [18:00] oh, we were also talking business cards at one point as well [18:00] yeah, that was actually why i was after you! [18:00] just a sec [18:01] well thought :)) [18:01] oh....good :) [18:01] also [18:02] where are you at regarding the ubiquity "installation sets"? i heard stgraber was doing some modifications to the installer and he said he'll get back to you after that [18:02] knome: we haven't started, a few people mentioned they might do it but haven't yet [18:03] i suppose after i get the ubuntu studio theme-ui transition pushed to bzr and the website (mostly) done i'll push into the seeds/ubiquity then [18:03] mmh [18:03] my goal is to have this done in time for A2 which means i hope to start next week on it [18:14] Umm... what is that mail from Killian Picard about? [18:14] Re: Microsoft & Apple software [18:14] That's my best guess [18:15] astraljava, probably a bit mental guy [18:15] astraljava, and this time i don't mean you [18:16] ACK [18:22] scott-work, are you online later? [18:27] knome: yes, i'll be in and out throught the following 4.5 hours at work [18:27] scott-work, ok, i'll get back to you once i'm back myself :) [19:21] hmm a quick question... Firefox 10 will be a LTS. Will xubuntu use the normal versions, or will you stick with the LTS version? [20:14] did xubuntu ask for the full 5 year LTS term? [20:15] No, 3 [20:16] thank you Unit193 [20:17] Yes sir! [20:24] scott-work, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Precise/LTSCyclePlan === yofel_ is now known as yofel