| Daekdroom | What focus problem? | 00:13 |
|---|---|---|
| snadge | *facepalm* | 00:14 |
| snadge | *epic dual picard facepalm* | 00:14 |
| snadge | in firefox.. for whatever reason, sometimes the autocomplete stuff doesnt come up | 00:15 |
| snadge | unless you click the title.. then click back into the location bar | 00:15 |
| Daekdroom | Ah. I thought of something else. | 00:15 |
| Daekdroom | But yes, I noticed that too | 00:15 |
| snadge | sometimes the problem manifests in other ways.. which i forget at this point in time | 00:15 |
| snadge | but it often results in having to refocus the already focussed window for either text input.. or effects which require focus to work | 00:16 |
| snadge | the firefox description is probably the easiest to describe and relate to | 00:16 |
| snadge | i dont think the problem is purely restricted to firefox however.. and its extremely difficult to reproduce | 00:16 |
| snadge | yet manages to happen irritatingly frequently | 00:17 |
| snadge | im not familiar enough with how X, firefox and compiz with the unity plugin works.. to even begin to investigate this problem | 00:22 |
| snadge | i was hoping one of the primary devs could spend a small amount of time investigating this | 00:22 |
| mhall119 | snadge: bzr branch lp:unity, make it suck less, bzr commit, bzr push, done | 00:52 |
| mhall119 | though if it's a focus issue, it's more likely to be compiz than unity | 00:52 |
| snadge | i can code .. but im seriously out of my depth with regards to investigating this one particular issue | 00:52 |
| snadge | im assuming firefox has some code in it.. to tell whether it has focus or not | 00:53 |
| mhall119 | snadge: you assume that a primary dev hasn't already spent a considerable amount of time trying to isolate this problem | 00:53 |
| snadge | what i dont understand is how typing will put text into the location bar.. the window appears to have focus visually | 00:53 |
| snadge | but it wont autocomplete the history as you're typing | 00:53 |
| mhall119 | but what you type appears in the location bar? | 00:54 |
| snadge | correct | 00:54 |
| mhall119 | then it's not a focus issue | 00:54 |
| mhall119 | obviously firefox has keyboard focus | 00:54 |
| snadge | well it is.. because if you click the title bar | 00:54 |
| snadge | then click back into the location bar.. then the history autocompletes as you would expect | 00:54 |
| mhall119 | if firefox has keyboard focus, it's not a focus issue, it's gotta be something else | 00:54 |
| snadge | obviously doing that shouldn't do anything at all | 00:55 |
| snadge | if the focus is already on the window, and text is going into the location bar.. then the autocomplete function should work as expected | 00:55 |
| snadge | the key to understanding this problem.. is to figure out why refocussing the window "fixes" it | 00:55 |
| snadge | and i guess knowing where to look would also help | 00:57 |
| snadge | and how things work would also help | 00:57 |
| mhall119 | sounds like a firefox bug then | 01:03 |
| mhall119 | once X sends the keyboard inputs to the app, it's up to the app what it does with them | 01:03 |
| mhall119 | if you file a bug in launchpad describing exactly what's happening, someone will send it to the right place | 01:04 |
| snadge | yeah except.. i only see the problem if im running unity | 01:06 |
| snadge | if i use something else.. it works fine | 01:06 |
| snadge | so its probably compiz related | 01:06 |
| snadge | and if you report it to the compiz guys.. they'll most likely say.. its a problem with the unity plugin | 01:07 |
| snadge | which has nothing to do with us | 01:07 |
| snadge | i know how the free software blame game works | 01:07 |
| snadge | thats why i can't really report it as a problem.. until i know a lot more about where the problem is | 01:07 |
| mgedmin | "you cannot solve a problem until you know the answer" | 01:08 |
| mgedmin | forgot who said that | 01:08 |
| gypd | Help I've lost the launcher and the icons at the top right of screen,i.e- the button for system settings plus shutting down or logging out | 01:08 |
| snadge | i think im unwelcome in the compiz channel anyway.. last time i was in there.. i hurled abuse at them | 01:09 |
| mgedmin | yeah, not the best strategy to get other people to fix bugs for you ;-) | 01:12 |
| * mgedmin shifts around guiltily | 01:12 | |
| snadge | theres one guy in there who has an attitude though ;) | 01:14 |
| snadge | and its not like the first time i was in there.. it was building up to that | 01:14 |
| snadge | lets just say.. i can understand why gnome doesnt use compiz anymore | 01:14 |
| snadge | and its a shame that unity is stuck with it ;) | 01:15 |
| snadge | if gnome-shell was more like unity... i'd use it.. honestly | 01:15 |
| snadge | i cant stand the dorky huge window titles.. the ugly ass application bar.. and the stupid workspace switcher | 01:16 |
| mhall119 | unity isn't stuck with it, Unity2d doesn't use compiz | 01:18 |
| snadge | thats a point.. i dont think unity2d has the issue either | 01:20 |
| snadge | i use that at home | 01:20 |
| snadge | so that really narrows the problem down to either compiz.. or the unity plugin | 01:20 |
| snadge | excellent its doing it now | 01:29 |
| snadge | but typing in this window.. then switching back to the browser.. fixes it | 01:29 |
| smspillaz | snadge: firefox uses XSetInputFocus directly which is broken | 07:22 |
| snadge | i see | 07:22 |
| smspillaz | snadge: I can try and look into it a bit later (quite busy this week), but I can't really reproduce the problem because its a race condition | 07:22 |
| snadge | right.. it only ever happens when you're not trying to make it happen | 07:23 |
| snadge | if you go to demonstrate the problem.. it doesnt happen | 07:23 |
| snadge | but then after you give up in frustration.. it happens 10 times in a row | 07:23 |
| snadge | i wonder if having multiple displays exacerbates the problem | 07:24 |
| smspillaz | I think this one http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?h=compiz-0.8&id=33f695e7c6e4fb8ac627df0978fea7771fe1b3d5 is supposed to fix it but it doesn't really work with 0.9 because of reparenting and such | 07:24 |
| snadge | also i havn't verified that it doesnt happen with unity-2d | 07:24 |
| snadge | but i suspect it doesnt.. i cant say that with any high degree of certainty | 07:24 |
| smspillaz | it probably doesn't | 07:25 |
| snadge | i dont ever remember being annoyed by that problem when using unity2d | 07:25 |
| snadge | so this patch wont apply to the ubuntu source ? | 07:25 |
| snadge | i'm half tempted to download the source package.. and add that diff if its possible | 07:26 |
| snadge | re-read what you just said.. its a 0.8 patch | 07:27 |
| snadge | hmm | 07:27 |
| smspillaz | indeed | 07:29 |
| smspillaz | that being said, if you can give me fairly exact steps to reproduce this problem, I might have time to squeeze that in today | 07:29 |
| snadge | thats what i've been trying to do | 07:32 |
| snadge | ok just did it then | 07:32 |
| smspillaz | can you verify the exact steps ? | 07:32 |
| snadge | typing in irc.. switch to a different desktop (which has firefox) and then attains focus | 07:32 |
| smspillaz | which windows etc etc | 07:32 |
| snadge | ctrl-t opens a new tab.. then typing in the location bar.. doesnt autocomplete | 07:32 |
| smspillaz | put it on the bug report, link me to it | 07:32 |
| snadge | ok so a bug report against which package? | 07:33 |
| snadge | so then i switch back.. and its working now :/ | 07:33 |
| snadge | just tried it 5 times in a row and it worked each time | 07:34 |
| smspillaz | compiz-core | 07:34 |
| snadge | cant reproduce it at all now.. let alone reliably | 07:35 |
| snadge | actually.. i've just closed a bunch of open apps | 07:40 |
| snadge | perhaps some app is causing | 07:41 |
| snadge | i'll keep trying to reliably reproduce the problem.. and if i figure it out.. i'll post a bug | 07:41 |
| snadge | thats pretty much the only reason i havn't posted a bug already | 07:41 |
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| mick0 | Is it possible to use a recepie to create a test package that does not go out as an update? | 09:38 |
| mick0 | davidcalle: Ping me when you're here and have time :) | 09:51 |
| davidcalle | mpt, about our previous discussion, I just had a confirmation from Stephane Graber that packages in .extras can't depend on packages in .extras. | 11:10 |
| mpt | davidcalle, so what do we need to do to fix that? | 11:11 |
| davidcalle | mpt, talking about it with Stephane. | 11:15 |
| davidcalle | (I am) | 11:15 |
| mpt | great, thanks | 11:18 |
| jack_thompson | http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/373539673#373541381 | 13:51 |
| jack_thompson | it has been established | 13:51 |
| jack_thompson | :D | 13:51 |
| mick0 | aww man. Is the 4chan link good? Im banned :( And very curious | 13:54 |
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| mhall119 | davidcalle: mpt: I thought we had an exception for lenses and scopes | 15:01 |
| mpt | mhall119, maybe so (if so, where is it documented?), but there shouldn't need to be. | 15:03 |
| mhall119 | shouldn't need to be an exception, or shouldn't need to be inter-dependent? | 15:05 |
| mgedmin | I don't know how but I keep opening the dash by accident | 16:37 |
| mgedmin | (well, I know how -- my fat thumb hits the Super key) | 16:37 |
| mgedmin | wish it was faster in appearing and _especially_ disappearing when I hit esc | 16:38 |
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| BerndSch | davidcalle: do you know where I can find information/documentation for the new libunity API (unity 5)? And what are the steps to move to the new api? Do we need a different package for 11.10 and 12.04? | 17:41 |
| davidcalle | BerndSch, it's not existing, but I'm annoying libunity's dev: mhr3, to have it :) | 17:44 |
| davidcalle | BerndSch, and yes, lenses for Precises will need to be different from 11.10. | 17:45 |
| BerndSch | davidcalle: ok, thanks for the answer :-) I just only have the problem that I couldn't test the 12.04 version until my x-server bug will be fixed :-( | 17:57 |
| davidcalle | BerndSch, yeah I know =/ | 17:59 |
| mhr3 | BerndSch, davidcalle, i'll try to get someone to at least push unity-5.0 api list on developer.ubuntu.com | 18:00 |
| mhr3 | asap | 18:01 |
| davidcalle | mhr3, don't worry, enjoy Budapest :) | 18:01 |
| mhall119 | mhr3: who do you need to do that? | 18:59 |
| mhr3 | mhall119, i was told david should be able to handle it | 19:00 |
| mhall119 | ok, I'll try and touch base with him on that tomorrow | 19:00 |
| mhr3 | mhall119, planella, not barth | 19:01 |
| mhr3 | just to avoid misunderstanding... | 19:02 |
| mhall119 | yup | 19:03 |
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