[00:13] What focus problem? [00:14] *facepalm* [00:14] *epic dual picard facepalm* [00:15] in firefox.. for whatever reason, sometimes the autocomplete stuff doesnt come up [00:15] unless you click the title.. then click back into the location bar [00:15] Ah. I thought of something else. [00:15] But yes, I noticed that too [00:15] sometimes the problem manifests in other ways.. which i forget at this point in time [00:16] but it often results in having to refocus the already focussed window for either text input.. or effects which require focus to work [00:16] the firefox description is probably the easiest to describe and relate to [00:16] i dont think the problem is purely restricted to firefox however.. and its extremely difficult to reproduce [00:17] yet manages to happen irritatingly frequently [00:22] im not familiar enough with how X, firefox and compiz with the unity plugin works.. to even begin to investigate this problem [00:22] i was hoping one of the primary devs could spend a small amount of time investigating this [00:52] snadge: bzr branch lp:unity, make it suck less, bzr commit, bzr push, done [00:52] though if it's a focus issue, it's more likely to be compiz than unity [00:52] i can code .. but im seriously out of my depth with regards to investigating this one particular issue [00:53] im assuming firefox has some code in it.. to tell whether it has focus or not [00:53] snadge: you assume that a primary dev hasn't already spent a considerable amount of time trying to isolate this problem [00:53] what i dont understand is how typing will put text into the location bar.. the window appears to have focus visually [00:53] but it wont autocomplete the history as you're typing [00:54] but what you type appears in the location bar? [00:54] correct [00:54] then it's not a focus issue [00:54] obviously firefox has keyboard focus [00:54] well it is.. because if you click the title bar [00:54] then click back into the location bar.. then the history autocompletes as you would expect [00:54] if firefox has keyboard focus, it's not a focus issue, it's gotta be something else [00:55] obviously doing that shouldn't do anything at all [00:55] if the focus is already on the window, and text is going into the location bar.. then the autocomplete function should work as expected [00:55] the key to understanding this problem.. is to figure out why refocussing the window "fixes" it [00:57] and i guess knowing where to look would also help [00:57] and how things work would also help [01:03] sounds like a firefox bug then [01:03] once X sends the keyboard inputs to the app, it's up to the app what it does with them [01:04] if you file a bug in launchpad describing exactly what's happening, someone will send it to the right place [01:06] yeah except.. i only see the problem if im running unity [01:06] if i use something else.. it works fine [01:06] so its probably compiz related [01:07] and if you report it to the compiz guys.. they'll most likely say.. its a problem with the unity plugin [01:07] which has nothing to do with us [01:07] i know how the free software blame game works [01:07] thats why i can't really report it as a problem.. until i know a lot more about where the problem is [01:08] "you cannot solve a problem until you know the answer" [01:08] forgot who said that [01:08] Help I've lost the launcher and the icons at the top right of screen,i.e- the button for system settings plus shutting down or logging out [01:09] i think im unwelcome in the compiz channel anyway.. last time i was in there.. i hurled abuse at them [01:12] yeah, not the best strategy to get other people to fix bugs for you ;-) [01:12] * mgedmin shifts around guiltily [01:14] theres one guy in there who has an attitude though ;) [01:14] and its not like the first time i was in there.. it was building up to that [01:14] lets just say.. i can understand why gnome doesnt use compiz anymore [01:15] and its a shame that unity is stuck with it ;) [01:15] if gnome-shell was more like unity... i'd use it.. honestly [01:16] i cant stand the dorky huge window titles.. the ugly ass application bar.. and the stupid workspace switcher [01:18] unity isn't stuck with it, Unity2d doesn't use compiz [01:20] thats a point.. i dont think unity2d has the issue either [01:20] i use that at home [01:20] so that really narrows the problem down to either compiz.. or the unity plugin [01:29] excellent its doing it now [01:29] but typing in this window.. then switching back to the browser.. fixes it [07:22] snadge: firefox uses XSetInputFocus directly which is broken [07:22] i see [07:22] snadge: I can try and look into it a bit later (quite busy this week), but I can't really reproduce the problem because its a race condition [07:23] right.. it only ever happens when you're not trying to make it happen [07:23] if you go to demonstrate the problem.. it doesnt happen [07:23] but then after you give up in frustration.. it happens 10 times in a row [07:24] i wonder if having multiple displays exacerbates the problem [07:24] I think this one http://git.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?h=compiz-0.8&id=33f695e7c6e4fb8ac627df0978fea7771fe1b3d5 is supposed to fix it but it doesn't really work with 0.9 because of reparenting and such [07:24] also i havn't verified that it doesnt happen with unity-2d [07:24] but i suspect it doesnt.. i cant say that with any high degree of certainty [07:25] it probably doesn't [07:25] i dont ever remember being annoyed by that problem when using unity2d [07:25] so this patch wont apply to the ubuntu source ? [07:26] i'm half tempted to download the source package.. and add that diff if its possible [07:27] re-read what you just said.. its a 0.8 patch [07:27] hmm [07:29] indeed [07:29] that being said, if you can give me fairly exact steps to reproduce this problem, I might have time to squeeze that in today [07:32] thats what i've been trying to do [07:32] ok just did it then [07:32] can you verify the exact steps ? [07:32] typing in irc.. switch to a different desktop (which has firefox) and then attains focus [07:32] which windows etc etc [07:32] ctrl-t opens a new tab.. then typing in the location bar.. doesnt autocomplete [07:32] put it on the bug report, link me to it [07:33] ok so a bug report against which package? [07:33] so then i switch back.. and its working now :/ [07:34] just tried it 5 times in a row and it worked each time [07:34] compiz-core [07:35] cant reproduce it at all now.. let alone reliably [07:40] actually.. i've just closed a bunch of open apps [07:41] perhaps some app is causing [07:41] i'll keep trying to reliably reproduce the problem.. and if i figure it out.. i'll post a bug [07:41] thats pretty much the only reason i havn't posted a bug already === danilo_ is now known as danilos === zyga_ is now known as zyga [09:38] Is it possible to use a recepie to create a test package that does not go out as an update? [09:51] davidcalle: Ping me when you're here and have time :) [11:10] mpt, about our previous discussion, I just had a confirmation from Stephane Graber that packages in .extras can't depend on packages in .extras. [11:11] davidcalle, so what do we need to do to fix that? [11:15] mpt, talking about it with Stephane. [11:15] (I am) [11:18] great, thanks [13:51] http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/373539673#373541381 [13:51] it has been established [13:51] :D [13:54] aww man. Is the 4chan link good? Im banned :( And very curious === jasox_ is now known as jasox [15:01] davidcalle: mpt: I thought we had an exception for lenses and scopes [15:03] mhall119, maybe so (if so, where is it documented?), but there shouldn't need to be. [15:05] shouldn't need to be an exception, or shouldn't need to be inter-dependent? [16:37] I don't know how but I keep opening the dash by accident [16:37] (well, I know how -- my fat thumb hits the Super key) [16:38] wish it was faster in appearing and _especially_ disappearing when I hit esc === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [17:41] davidcalle: do you know where I can find information/documentation for the new libunity API (unity 5)? And what are the steps to move to the new api? Do we need a different package for 11.10 and 12.04? [17:44] BerndSch, it's not existing, but I'm annoying libunity's dev: mhr3, to have it :) [17:45] BerndSch, and yes, lenses for Precises will need to be different from 11.10. [17:57] davidcalle: ok, thanks for the answer :-) I just only have the problem that I couldn't test the 12.04 version until my x-server bug will be fixed :-( [17:59] BerndSch, yeah I know =/ [18:00] BerndSch, davidcalle, i'll try to get someone to at least push unity-5.0 api list on developer.ubuntu.com [18:01] asap [18:01] mhr3, don't worry, enjoy Budapest :) [18:59] mhr3: who do you need to do that? [19:00] mhall119, i was told david should be able to handle it [19:00] ok, I'll try and touch base with him on that tomorrow [19:01] mhall119, planella, not barth [19:02] just to avoid misunderstanding... [19:03] yup === nuthinking_ is now known as nuthinking === nuthinking_ is now known as nuthinking === nuthinking_ is now known as nuthinking === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away