[00:22] Jussi, congratulations! [00:22] your life has changed forever === Stecchino_ is now known as Stecchino === ejat- is now known as ejat [09:45] jussi01: congrats!! === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [10:57] wow calligra still has 10 hours to build in PPA [12:16] gosh something funky has happened to launchpad bugs pages [12:16] "Some parts of this page are in beta: Dynamic bug listings" [12:22] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmygpo-qt [12:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmms/+bug/914733 [12:28] Ubuntu bug 914733 in libmms (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmms" [Undecided,New] [12:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmygpo-qt/+bug/914720 [12:40] Ubuntu bug 914720 in libmygpo-qt (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmygpo-qt" [Undecided,New] [14:02] Tonio_, debfx, apachelogger, JontheEchidna, NCommander, Quintasan_, ScottK: meed to discuss fabo's kubuntu-dev membership www.doodle.com/s2xvbns5ykaz5zfd [14:16] JontheEchidna: how's the muon spec [14:16] should any items be postponed? [14:16] (we're reviewing all the specs) [14:16] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-kubuntu-muon [14:17] Darkwing: can the docs task be assigned to you? [14:17] Riddell: Doodled. [14:17] I would have done so earlier, but I had to get a password reset. [14:18] you need a password for doodle? [14:21] rbelem: do you still plan to get these done? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-kubuntu-filesharing [14:27] If you want to be able to edit your doodle later. [14:28] yofel_: "give another attempt at making dot graph readable/searchable" what's bad about it? [14:38] Quintasan_: still want to get kde-telepathy inthe archive? [14:41] Quintasan_: how's "package Simon Listens" doing? [14:44] fabo: are you wanting to take an items from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-kubuntu-active ? [14:46] Riddell: that's my plan. i started to look into updating kde4libs [14:47] fabo: I'll put your name by package Plasma Active components then [14:47] sounds good [14:48] Quintasan_: do you expect to do "package mallit - meego onscreen keyboard and add to seeds" ? [15:23] Riddell, yup [15:24] thanks [15:24] Riddell, i will back next week to my open source activities :-) [15:25] Riddell: wrt Telepathy KDE, 0.3 is going to be a beta release, so I'd say it's a pretty good candidate for the archives since we can expect 0.4 to be out before feature freeze [15:34] shadeslayer: yeah is that out soon? [15:42] hmm [15:42] there's basically a bug in the Kubuntu installer [15:42] it queries the NTP before setting the proxy [15:42] here in the company we have to use a proxy [15:43] so the install fails unless you disconnect the network. it tries, and tries again... endless loop [15:43] I didn't know NTP could be proxied [15:43] but that's for evan or another ubiquity person to sort out, do report a bug, they're usually quite responsive [15:44] yeah, true [15:44] but anyway, it fails when it tries to access NTP, and then does not recover [15:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug [15:44] at least the Alternate Installer behaves like this [15:44] ok [16:03] ubiquity is the wrong package if you are talking about the alternate installer [16:03] I think debian-installer is the correct one [16:50] uh oh, libapogee failed to build, I haven't touched that since gutsy [16:53] blame multiarch and make slangasek fix it. [16:53] :) [17:06] 4.7.4 upload to oneiric-proposed in process. [17:08] great, thanks ScottK [17:08] koffice -> calligra upgrade works fine [17:26] Meh. Packet loss on hotel internet. This may take awhile. [17:30] ScottK: I can supply ec2 machines if needed, they come with their own screen session [17:30] Wouldn't help. I'd still have to upload the packages. [17:31] I've got them all ready, it's just slow up out of a deep hole ... [17:32] Seems to have picked up speed once I started complaining. [17:34] shadeslayer: oh also bug 824042 says it might have issues [17:34] Launchpad bug 824042 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] needs-packaging: kde-telepathy" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824042 [17:42] Anyone interested in being the Kubuntu rep to QA meetings? [17:42] (once a week IRC for ~an hour) [17:47] alas not me just now [17:48] * ScottK thinks BarkingFish would be good, but he's not here right now. [17:50] yes could be [17:51] shadeslayer: is there artwork for project neon we can use on fosdem posters? [18:13] bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/586324 reopened [18:13] Ubuntu bug 586324 in openal-soft (Ubuntu) "[MIR] openal-soft" [Undecided,New] [18:17] and just for luck, bug 914923 [18:17] Launchpad bug 914923 in qtzeitgeist (Ubuntu) "[MIR] qtzeitgeist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/914923 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [18:33] Riddell: Once I get some decent feedback on that it works as expected and we want it in seed and main (referring to kde-telepathy) [18:34] Riddell: maliit is on-hold on apachelogger unless someone else is up to review my frameworks packaging [18:34] and as to simon - waiting for upstream response since there is either something wrong with our qtmobility or upstream is using some black magic in the build system [18:36] Riddell: If I won't get any response in like week or two then consider simon packaging as abandoned for now from my side [18:38] Riddell: I presume we have some artwork in bzr, let me see [18:41] Riddell: as for telepathy-kde - "for my use case, it is. but there are some things missing that many people would complain about, like logging for example" <- upstream. I think we should stick with Kopete for LTS and kde-telepathy for LTS+1 [18:49] telepathy-kde should be in the archive anyway [18:51] Quintasan: others can review packaging, is it on revu? [18:52] Quintasan: first step is getting kde-telepathy in universe, worry about main and seed later [18:53] Riddell: kde-telepathy is packaging is sitting in Alioth and I am co-maintaining it with gkiagia [18:57] bah [18:57] x crashed [18:59] Riddell: Re kde-telepathy, upstream plans to roll out 0.3 this month, the packages will be renamed to ktp-* [18:59] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/ <-- packaging, search for pkg-kde/kde-extras/telepathy-kde/ [19:00] I would be in favour of waiting till 0.3 and then uploading [19:01] BarkingFish: Would you be interested/able to be the Kubuntu attendee at QA meetings? [19:01] ScottK: ^^ any opinion on that? [19:02] No [19:02] i'm so far behind right now ScottK that I've not even got involved with the packaging for Precise yet, I don't know what I'd be able to contribute or what I'd even need to do [19:02] if it's just sitting there, smiling and agreeing with everyone, i'd be fine :P [19:03] :DD [19:04] BarkingFish: Making Kubuntu part of the process, maybe discussing testing issues we're having, and communicating anything of interest to kubuntu-devel is about it. No packaging needed. [19:05] BTW, I had to stop the 4.7.4 upload for lunch. It's going again now. [19:06] ScottK: this is what I mean, I have no idea what would be of interest to here, or what testing issues you're having - if you want to bring me up to speed, (anyone with issues to raise) email me some notes, problems you're having etc, and I'll do my best. [19:07] I think that's perfect. We didn't have a QA attendee so far, so it's a new role and you can figure it out. [19:07] Sure, whatever :) [19:08] I do still want to get involved with the packaging side and testing, like I did for oneiric, it just means me bringing myself back up to speed again. [19:09] I'm set up this end with a new ssh key, new gpg key, i've got the pbuilder-dist set up, I just don't want to sit around like the last sandwich at a buffet [19:13] Quintasan: yes let's upload then [19:13] k [19:13] will get to adjusting packages this week [19:13] BarkingFish: Are you subscribed to the ubuntu-qa mailing list? [19:13] winter holidays ++ [19:13] If not, that would be good (it's low volume) [19:15] I don't think I am, ScottK - I'm on ubuntu-devel and kubuntu-devel at the moment [19:16] Please do, then you'll get meeting announcements ... [19:16] ok [19:17] done, just waiting for the email [19:18] Great. Thanks. [19:18] now the next thing I have to do is use kfind and search my PC for quintasan's guide to packaging which he gave me before 11.10 came out :) [19:18] I did give you a one [19:18] but it was such a long time ago that even I do not remember the details [19:18] yes I know you did. I took shedloads of notes and filed them very carefully under L for Lost :P [19:19] I have 19.2TB of disk space here, might take a while to find, but I know I put it somewhere [19:20] >19.2TB [19:20] >19.2 [19:20] >TB [19:20] OHSHI- [19:21] well that's funny :) Hotmail categorises mailing list subscriptions to ubuntu as "Unsafe" and filters them via Smartscreen! [19:21] ScottK: Subscription confirmed [19:23] brb gotta flip my fish patties :) [19:24] k, going back to books [19:26] i'll be danged if I can find that packaging guide... I'm sure i stored it in the 1GB of local space I have in the machine, as opposed to one of the other external USBs [19:37] well, looks like I was wrong. I have found it though :) [19:37] So now I have an idea of what I'm doing again, ScottK - anything you want checking, testing or attempting to build against precise? [19:38] BarkingFish: Not me, but I bet Riddell has a stack of stuff. [19:39] excellent. That'll give me something to do tonight, since I'm as bored as hell :P [19:39] Riddell: Got any work you want taking off your shoulders? [19:39] http://www.calligra.org/news/announcements/calligra-2-4-beta-6/ [19:54] ulysses: I think Riddell already did packages. [19:56] oh, I was wrong, I thought it was only 2.3.85 [20:12] hi [20:12] ulysses: beta 6 is waiting on slow PPAs to compile [20:12] but it's done [20:13] BarkingFish: new cmake packaging? [20:14] 4.7.4 is uploaded. [20:14] ScottK: awesome, needs approval by someone to get past unaccepted? [20:15] Riddell: Yes. Ubuntu-sru. [20:16] BarkingFish: New skanlite in Debian Experimental needs merging. [20:16] BarkingFish: test if libapogee2 build failures and report to upstream [20:16] Riddell: Since I'm only just getting back into this, I'm looking to just to rebuilds and stuff atm, until I can get right back to speed :) [20:16] Sure, I'll take libapogee2 if you want [20:17] BarkingFish: test locally for precise [20:17] if it fails report to indi upstream [20:17] ok, no problem [20:23] >>>:( [20:24] Looks like I've not set up right - I found quintasan's brief guide to packaging, but obviously didn't copy it all. [20:24] Sorry Riddell - I'll come back to you as and when I have this damn thing working properly. [20:29] aha, there we go. Sorry for the dela [20:29] *delay [20:30] Riddell: I'm running the build now, will let you know how it goes [20:40] Riddell: libapogee2 has built successfully, a couple of warnings from the system during the build, mostly about typedef being ignored, but it's worked [21:54] Riddell: I've updated the spec. :) [23:49] BarkingFish: interesting, so maybe it's a problem only on arm [23:51] so what issues are you having with it there? [23:52] well look on launchpad [23:53] ok, will do [23:53] Riddell: Yes, any docs tasks can be assigned to me. [23:56] JontheEchidna: do you know about the .deb install issues? [23:58] should be fixed in precise [23:59] oh cool