[00:22] <valorie> Jussi, congratulations!
[00:22] <valorie> your life has changed forever
[09:45] <allee> jussi01: congrats!!
[10:57] <Riddell> wow calligra still has 10 hours to build in PPA
[12:16] <Riddell> gosh something funky has happened to launchpad bugs pages
[12:16] <Riddell> "Some parts of this page are in beta: Dynamic bug listings"
[12:22] <Riddell> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmygpo-qt
[12:28] <Riddell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmms/+bug/914733
[12:40] <Riddell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmygpo-qt/+bug/914720
[14:02] <Riddell> Tonio_, debfx, apachelogger, JontheEchidna, NCommander, Quintasan_, ScottK: meed to discuss fabo's kubuntu-dev membership www.doodle.com/s2xvbns5ykaz5zfd
[14:16] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: how's the muon spec
[14:16] <Riddell> should any items be postponed?
[14:16] <Riddell> (we're reviewing all the specs)
[14:16] <Riddell> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-kubuntu-muon
[14:17] <Riddell> Darkwing: can the docs task be assigned to you?
[14:17] <ScottK> Riddell: Doodled.
[14:17] <ScottK> I would have done so earlier, but I had to get a password reset.
[14:18] <Riddell> you need a password for doodle?
[14:21] <Riddell> rbelem: do you still plan to get these done? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-kubuntu-filesharing
[14:27] <ScottK> If you want to be able to edit your doodle later.
[14:28] <Riddell> yofel_: "give another attempt at making dot graph readable/searchable" what's bad about it?
[14:38] <Riddell> Quintasan_: still want to get kde-telepathy inthe archive?
[14:41] <Riddell> Quintasan_: how's "package Simon Listens" doing?
[14:44] <Riddell> fabo: are you wanting to take an items from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-kubuntu-active ?
[14:46] <fabo> Riddell: that's my plan. i started to look into updating kde4libs
[14:47] <Riddell> fabo: I'll put your name by package Plasma Active components then
[14:47] <fabo> sounds good
[14:48] <Riddell> Quintasan_: do you expect to do "package mallit - meego onscreen keyboard and add to seeds" ?
[15:23] <rbelem> Riddell, yup
[15:24] <Riddell> thanks
[15:24] <rbelem> Riddell, i will back next week to my open source activities :-)
[15:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: wrt Telepathy KDE, 0.3 is going to be a beta release, so I'd say it's a pretty good candidate for the archives since we can expect 0.4 to be out before feature freeze
[15:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yeah is that out soon?
[15:42] <markey_nokialyze> hmm
[15:42] <markey_nokialyze> there's basically a bug in the Kubuntu installer
[15:42] <markey_nokialyze> it queries the NTP before setting the proxy
[15:42] <markey_nokialyze> here in the company we have to use a proxy
[15:43] <markey_nokialyze> so the install fails unless you disconnect the network. it tries, and tries again... endless loop
[15:43] <Riddell> I didn't know NTP could be proxied
[15:43] <Riddell> but that's for evan or another ubiquity person to sort out, do report a bug, they're usually quite responsive
[15:44] <markey_nokialyze> yeah, true
[15:44] <markey_nokialyze> but anyway, it fails when it tries to access NTP, and then does not recover
[15:44] <Riddell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug
[15:44] <markey_nokialyze> at least the Alternate Installer behaves like this
[15:44] <markey_nokialyze> ok
[16:03] <debfx> ubiquity is the wrong package if you are talking about the alternate installer
[16:03] <debfx> I think debian-installer is the correct one
[16:50] <Riddell> uh oh, libapogee failed to build, I haven't touched that since gutsy
[16:53] <ScottK> blame multiarch and make slangasek fix it.
[16:53] <Riddell> :)
[17:06] <ScottK> 4.7.4 upload to oneiric-proposed in process.
[17:08] <Riddell> great, thanks ScottK 
[17:08] <Riddell> koffice -> calligra upgrade works fine
[17:26] <ScottK> Meh.  Packet loss on hotel internet.  This may take awhile.
[17:30] <Riddell> ScottK: I can supply ec2 machines if needed, they come with their own screen session
[17:30] <ScottK> Wouldn't help.  I'd still have to upload the packages.
[17:31] <ScottK> I've got them all ready, it's just slow up out of a deep hole ...
[17:32] <ScottK> Seems to have picked up speed once I started complaining.
[17:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oh also bug 824042 says it might have issues
[17:42] <ScottK> Anyone interested in being the Kubuntu rep to QA meetings?
[17:42] <ScottK> (once a week IRC for ~an hour)
[17:47] <Riddell> alas not me just now
[17:48]  * ScottK thinks BarkingFish would be good, but he's not here right now.
[17:50] <Riddell> yes could be
[17:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: is there artwork for project neon we can use on fosdem posters?
[18:13] <Riddell> bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openal-soft/+bug/586324 reopened
[18:17] <Riddell> and just for luck, bug 914923
[18:33] <Quintasan> Riddell: Once I get some decent feedback on that it works as expected and we want it in seed and main (referring to kde-telepathy)
[18:34] <Quintasan> Riddell: maliit is on-hold on apachelogger unless someone else is up to review my frameworks packaging
[18:34] <Quintasan> and as to simon - waiting for upstream response since there is either something wrong with our qtmobility or upstream is using some black magic in the build system
[18:36] <Quintasan> Riddell: If I won't get any response in like week or two then consider simon packaging as abandoned for now from my side
[18:38] <Quintasan> Riddell: I presume we have some artwork in bzr, let me see
[18:41] <Quintasan> Riddell: as for telepathy-kde - "for my use case, it is. but there are some things missing that many people would complain about, like logging for example" <- upstream. I think we should stick with Kopete for LTS and kde-telepathy for LTS+1
[18:49] <Riddell> telepathy-kde should be in the archive anyway
[18:51] <Riddell> Quintasan: others can review packaging, is it on revu?
[18:52] <Riddell> Quintasan: first step is getting kde-telepathy in universe, worry about main and seed later
[18:53] <Quintasan> Riddell: kde-telepathy is packaging is sitting in Alioth and I am co-maintaining it with gkiagia
[18:57] <Quintasan> bah
[18:57] <Quintasan> x crashed
[18:59] <Quintasan> Riddell: Re kde-telepathy, upstream plans to roll out 0.3 this month, the packages will be renamed to ktp-*
[18:59] <Quintasan> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/ <-- packaging, search for pkg-kde/kde-extras/telepathy-kde/
[19:00] <Quintasan> I would be in favour of waiting till 0.3 and then uploading
[19:01] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Would you be interested/able to be the Kubuntu attendee at QA meetings?
[19:01] <Quintasan> ScottK: ^^ any opinion on that?
[19:02] <ScottK> No
[19:02] <BarkingFish> i'm so far behind right now ScottK that I've not even got involved with the packaging for Precise yet, I don't know what I'd be able to contribute or what I'd even need to do
[19:02] <BarkingFish> if it's just sitting there, smiling and agreeing with everyone, i'd be fine :P
[19:03] <Quintasan> :DD
[19:04] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Making Kubuntu part of the process, maybe discussing testing issues we're having, and communicating anything of interest to kubuntu-devel is about it. No packaging needed.
[19:05] <ScottK> BTW, I had to stop the 4.7.4 upload for lunch.  It's going again now.
[19:06] <BarkingFish> ScottK: this is what I mean, I have no idea what would be of interest to here, or what testing issues you're having - if you want to bring me up to speed, (anyone with issues to raise) email me some notes, problems you're having etc, and I'll do my best.
[19:07] <ScottK> I think that's perfect.  We didn't have a QA attendee so far, so it's a new role and you can figure it out.
[19:07] <BarkingFish> Sure, whatever :)
[19:08] <BarkingFish> I do still want to get involved with the packaging side and testing, like I did for oneiric, it just means me bringing myself back up to speed again.
[19:09] <BarkingFish> I'm set up this end with a new ssh key, new gpg key, i've got the pbuilder-dist set up, I just don't want to sit around like the last sandwich at a buffet
[19:13] <Riddell> Quintasan: yes let's upload then
[19:13] <Quintasan> k
[19:13] <Quintasan> will get to adjusting packages this week
[19:13] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Are you subscribed to the ubuntu-qa mailing list?
[19:13] <Quintasan> winter holidays ++
[19:13] <ScottK> If not, that would be good (it's low volume)
[19:15] <BarkingFish> I don't think I am, ScottK - I'm on ubuntu-devel and kubuntu-devel at the moment
[19:16] <ScottK> Please do, then you'll get meeting announcements ...
[19:16] <BarkingFish> ok
[19:17] <BarkingFish> done, just waiting for the email
[19:18] <ScottK> Great.  Thanks.
[19:18] <BarkingFish> now the next thing I have to do is use kfind and search my PC for quintasan's guide to packaging which he gave me before 11.10 came out :)
[19:18] <Quintasan> I did give you a one
[19:18] <Quintasan> but it was such a long time ago that even I do not remember the details
[19:18] <BarkingFish> yes I know you did. I took shedloads of notes and filed them very carefully under L for Lost :P
[19:19] <BarkingFish> I have 19.2TB of disk space here, might take a while to find, but I know I put it somewhere
[19:20] <Quintasan> >19.2TB
[19:20] <Quintasan> >19.2
[19:20] <Quintasan> >TB
[19:20] <Quintasan> OHSHI-
[19:21] <BarkingFish> well that's funny :)  Hotmail categorises mailing list subscriptions to ubuntu as "Unsafe" and filters them via Smartscreen!
[19:21] <BarkingFish> ScottK: Subscription confirmed
[19:23] <BarkingFish> brb gotta flip my fish patties :)
[19:24] <Quintasan> k, going back to books
[19:26] <BarkingFish> i'll be danged if I can find that packaging guide...  I'm sure i stored it in the 1GB of local space I have in the machine, as opposed to one of the other external USBs
[19:37] <BarkingFish> well, looks like I was wrong. I have found it though :)
[19:37] <BarkingFish> So now I have an idea of what I'm doing again, ScottK - anything you want checking, testing or attempting to build against precise?
[19:38] <ScottK> BarkingFish: Not me, but I bet Riddell has a stack of stuff.
[19:39] <BarkingFish> excellent. That'll give me something to do tonight, since I'm as bored as hell :P
[19:39] <BarkingFish> Riddell: Got any work you want taking off your shoulders?
[19:39] <ulysses> http://www.calligra.org/news/announcements/calligra-2-4-beta-6/
[19:54] <ScottK> ulysses: I think Riddell already did packages.
[19:56] <ulysses> oh, I was wrong, I thought it was only 2.3.85
[20:12] <Riddell> hi
[20:12] <Riddell> ulysses: beta 6 is waiting on slow PPAs to compile
[20:12] <Riddell> but it's done
[20:13] <Riddell> BarkingFish: new cmake packaging?
[20:14] <ScottK> 4.7.4 is uploaded.
[20:14] <Riddell> ScottK: awesome, needs approval by someone to get past unaccepted?
[20:15] <ScottK> Riddell: Yes.  Ubuntu-sru.
[20:16] <Riddell> BarkingFish: New skanlite in Debian Experimental needs merging.
[20:16] <Riddell> BarkingFish: test if libapogee2 build failures and report to upstream
[20:16] <BarkingFish> Riddell: Since I'm only just getting back into this, I'm looking to just to rebuilds and stuff atm, until I can get right back to speed :)
[20:16] <BarkingFish> Sure, I'll take libapogee2 if you want
[20:17] <Riddell> BarkingFish: test locally for precise
[20:17] <Riddell> if it fails report to indi upstream
[20:17] <BarkingFish> ok, no problem
[20:23] <BarkingFish> >>>:(
[20:24] <BarkingFish> Looks like I've not set up right - I found quintasan's brief guide to packaging, but obviously didn't copy it all.
[20:24] <BarkingFish> Sorry Riddell - I'll come back to you as and when I have this damn thing working properly.
[20:29] <BarkingFish> aha, there we go. Sorry for the dela
[20:29] <BarkingFish> *delay
[20:30] <BarkingFish> Riddell: I'm running the build now, will let you know how it goes
[20:40] <BarkingFish> Riddell: libapogee2 has built successfully, a couple of warnings from the system during the build, mostly about typedef being ignored, but it's worked
[21:54] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: I've updated the spec. :)
[23:49] <Riddell> BarkingFish: interesting, so maybe it's a problem only on arm
[23:51] <BarkingFish> so what issues are you having with it there?
[23:52] <Riddell> well look on launchpad
[23:53] <BarkingFish> ok, will do
[23:53] <Darkwing> Riddell: Yes, any docs tasks can be assigned to me.
[23:56] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: do you know about the .deb install issues?
[23:58] <JontheEchidna> should be fixed in precise
[23:59] <Riddell> oh cool