[03:47] <kpennalt> Hello, I'm having an issue with the alpha release of 12.04, and I was wondering if this is the right place to ask for help?
[03:48] <EvilResistance> i told you in #u-motu, this is
[03:48] <EvilResistance> read the topic
[03:48] <EvilResistance> "Discussion and support for Precise Pangolin"
[03:48] <EvilResistance> aka 12.04
[03:48] <kpennalt> do i just jump right in with the description?
[03:48] <EvilResistance> which is in alpha
[03:48] <EvilResistance> !ask
[03:48] <EvilResistance> ^
[03:49] <kpennalt> When i login, nothing loads on the desktop except nautilus
[03:49] <kpennalt> I tried to see if the issue had been fixed with an update
[03:50] <kpennalt> by doing "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" in recovery mode
[03:50] <kpennalt> but network manager isn't connecting to my ethernet connection automatically
[03:53]  * EvilResistance points out those are both separate bugs, one with network manager, one with nautilus/unity/gdm/whatever
[14:07]  * chmac just survived a Compiz crash by ctrl-alt-f1ing to a terminal, killing compiz, and ctrl-alt-f7ing back
[14:07]  * chmac feels quite proud of himself!
[14:11] <ts2> this is one is the reasons one should always have a terminal emulator open at all times
[15:07] <chmac> ts2: Is a terminal emulator different than gnome-terminal?
[15:07] <chmac> ts2: The most recent issue I had was the entire screen freezing, so in that case, ctrl-alt-f1 was my only option. :-)
[15:08] <ts2> "terminal emulator" is the generic name for any program which acts like a terminal
[15:08] <ts2> gnome-terminal is a terminal emulator, but so is xterm, konsole, etc
[15:09] <chmac> ts2: Ok, I thought that, but wasn't certain of the terminology. I also always have a terminal emulator open, it's just plain useful. :-)
[15:11] <ts2> I use yakuake, useful when you don't want to clutter the taskbar thing
[15:12] <ts2> tilda and guake do the same thing in a gnome environment
[15:16] <chmac> Interesting, I leave gnome-terminal running all the time, usually multiple on multiple workspaces. I've never considered "sl/hiding" it.
[15:16] <EvilResistance> ts2:  +1 to that
[15:18] <ts2> especially when you're doing things where you may want to be reading something and typing on the command line, being able to quickly (and easily) show/hide the terminal is useful
[15:18] <ts2> or just if I'm just not using the terminal, I don't need to see it
[15:18] <pangolin> guake is awesome
[15:25] <EvilResistance> yeah, there was an #ubuntu-classroom session on it, i was like "GIMME GIMME GIMME" by the end of the session... been using it ever since :P
[17:35] <alex_mayorga> Setting up xdiagnose (2.0) ...
[17:35] <alex_mayorga> SyntaxError: ('invalid syntax', ('/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/xdiagnose/welcome.py', 277, 28, '        xorg_backup_dir  = $(mktemp -d -t ${xorg_backup_name}.XXX)\n'))
[17:35] <Ian_Corne> fix it!
[17:36] <alex_mayorga> No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.
[17:36] <alex_mayorga> Ian_Corne: something more specific?
[17:37] <Ian_Corne> not really
[17:38] <alex_mayorga> bug 914833 it seems
[17:39] <alex_mayorga> supposedly fixed on 2.1, but that doesn't seem to be available yet
[17:39] <Ian_Corne> you could swap to the main mirror for this update
[17:41] <alex_mayorga> Ian_Corne: I already use the "Main server" but still nothing
[17:41] <alex_mayorga> ubottu: xdiagnose
[17:44] <trism> alex_mayorga: replace line 277 with: xorg_backup_dir  = "/tmp" and then sudo apt-get -f install; or just grab the latest version here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/xdiagnose
[17:44] <trism> alex_mayorga: that's the fix in 2.1
[17:45] <Ian_Corne> what does the dot operator do in python?
[17:45] <trism> alex_mayorga: oh in /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/xdiagnose/welcome.py I mean
[17:45] <Ian_Corne> append string?
[17:46] <Ian_Corne> or what is .XXX supposed to do?
[17:46] <trism> Ian_Corne: string concat is just + in python
[17:46] <Ian_Corne> on a string..
[17:46] <trism> Ian_Corne: the issue is that the person who made the change doesn't understand python and used bash syntax
[17:46] <Ian_Corne> ah ok
[18:11] <alex_mayorga> trism: thanks
[18:13] <alex_mayorga> just tried dist-upgrade once more time and now is there
[18:14] <alex_mayorga> Seems like I'm good now
[18:14]  * alex_mayorga reboots and hopes for the best
[18:33] <alex_mayorga> I'm back, thanks all
[18:40] <hackel> Anyone managed to install 12.04 on a MacBook?  Install went fine, but on first boot it's freezing for me after grub.
[19:47] <FernandoMiguel> oias
[21:02] <gerth> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/914926
[21:03] <gerth> Is there no loop.ko file in Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:04] <gerth> lib/modules/3.2.0-8-generic/kernel/drivers/block/loop.ko
[21:05] <gerth> Can somebody check if the loop.ko file exists?
[21:41] <trism> gerth: the module is compiled in: CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
[21:57] <gerth> trism: Is this in the default kernel package or not?
[22:03] <trism> gerth: from /boot/config-3.2.0-8-generic
[22:05] <gerth> trism: I mean, is it compiled by default?
[22:09] <trism> gerth: not sure I understand, it is compiled into the kernel, not built separately as a module (not sure why you get that error, but I don't know much about the debian-installer)
[22:10] <gerth> trism: thanks for the explanation
[22:32] <edgy> hi, in fstab the swap there a sw option, I exected that to be swap, where is this documented?
[22:43] <sskalnik> http://landru.uwaterloo.ca/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=4&topic=fstab ?
[22:43] <sskalnik> man fstab