[07:24] <AJH101> hi i am trying to delete the contents of the hidden trash file on a ntfs external hd. Any ideas? No luck so far!
[07:26] <Snicksie> AJH101, doesnt it work when you just open the 'regular' trash and choose 'empty trash' there?
[07:29] <AJH101> no - and when i disconnect the hd the trash can is empty
[07:30] <AJH101> there is about 8Gb to clear!
[07:30] <philipballew> AJH101, cd into the directory and rm -rf the directory the trash is in
[07:31] <geirha> Is it mounted by gnome, or do you have an entry for it in /etc/fstab?
[10:41] <s-fox> Hello.
[10:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hello s-fox
[10:45] <s-fox> Hello IAmNotThatGuy
[10:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> How are you? How is work going?
[10:47] <s-fox> My health is fine thank you.
[10:47] <s-fox> Work is steady.
[10:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> Great
[13:00] <Culiforge> ubuntu 10.04. when I run lsdvd -a I get buffer i/o error on device sr0. is that a hardware problem or is something not installed right?
[17:36] <bobweaver> Hello there is there anyone herre that could talk to me about some quesions that I have with servers? the first being how the /ect/hosts   works also how apache makes new sites ?
[17:36] <bobweaver> is apache a scripting lang in its self ?
[17:39] <holstein> bobweaver: this is actually not a bad start http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_(file)
[17:39] <bobweaver> thanks holstein
[17:39] <holstein> from what i understand, and have experienced and used, you can use host names instead of IP's, and thats one way to do it... or a local DNS server, like the one that just works for me with ddwrt
[17:40] <holstein> note "the hosts file represents an attack vector for malicious software"
[17:40] <bobweaver> cool firmware rocks for routers
[17:40] <bobweaver> my isp uses mac address filtering
[17:40] <bobweaver> cant useddwrt
[17:40] <holstein> if i can access that file, i could redirect your traffic maliciously... route you somewhere else
[17:41] <bobweaver> holstein: I see
[17:41] <holstein> bobweaver: your isp must have given you a router already
[17:41] <bobweaver> yes sir
[17:41] <bobweaver> sir ?>
[17:41] <bobweaver> sorry
[17:42] <bobweaver> so if I want sites like site1.com site2.com ect
[17:42] <holstein> you could step down to them providing you only a modem, then use the router of your choice, or not
[17:42] <bobweaver> I mod /ect/hosts and 127.0.0.1   site1.com   ect ?
[17:42] <holstein> i have blocked facebook on a permachine basis using the hosts file
[17:43] <bobweaver> holstein: this is whgat I have 4 servers and a ipcop box
[17:43] <bobweaver> what *
[17:43] <bobweaver> the networks being filtered
[17:44] <bobweaver> wirelesss (blue) servers (orange)  home (green )
[17:44] <holstein> bobweaver: if you server is host name B0B (you@B0B) and its at 192.168.0.99... you can have it redirect so locally you can refer to it as B0B instead of 192.168.0.99
[17:44] <bobweaver> Wow that is what I wanted to hear !!
[17:45] <holstein> you can run a local DNS server
[17:45] <bobweaver> make one of the 4 into a dns server ?
[17:46] <holstein> bobweaver: its your network... depends on your needs
[17:46] <holstein> i typically have no trouble refering to IP's locally either
[17:46] <bobweaver> holstein:  I am trying to train my self as I am real poor and can not afford school again
[17:47] <bobweaver> so thanks for your help
[17:47] <bobweaver> I would like to get into the lamp feild
[17:47] <holstein> bobweaver: i say, set up some test scanarios then.. maybe virtualize the whole scenario in virtualbox... you can save snapshots, break it... fix it, reset.. whatever
[17:47] <bobweaver> holstein:  yes that is a great idea
[17:48] <holstein> also, check out the turnkey appliances.. i found them very educational, and easy to run live... http://www.turnkeylinux.org/
[17:48] <bobweaver> as of now I have been using how to make a perfect server from howtoforge works but I am not learning why I am installing apache
[17:49] <bobweaver> thanks for the link
[17:50] <holstein> i found for my needs, i really dont need any of it... i would get by with an ftp server... but i use apache to host files for folks that connecting to an ftp site would freak out
[17:50] <bobweaver> so after thinking about what you just said about "my needs " I want one server to be for crontabs rsync (local home computers and random stuff)      and too for hosting sites  one for a dns server
[17:51] <holstein> i built a drupal instance on an old PPC machine just to see it all work
[17:52] <bobweaver> I was thinking gnuPanel for the too site hosters
[17:52] <bobweaver> hoster lol
[17:52] <bobweaver> with sqril and nygix
[17:53] <bobweaver> but I have to rap my head around dns and how to make that all work
[17:53] <holstein> a good general rule that i agree with.. less is more... if you dont need a panel, dont install one.. if you dont need mysql.. etc... no reason to introduce points of failure or security issues
[17:53] <bobweaver> that and also permissions of var/www       ^^^ you are right about "extra things "
[17:54] <holstein> i say, run it live, and local.. test for yourself... see what can be exploited and why
[17:54] <bobweaver> time too look at openvas ?
[17:54] <bobweaver> w3af
[17:55] <holstein> also, asking professionals, or listening to things like the techsnap poscast
[17:55] <holstein> podcast*
[17:55] <bobweaver> It is all just files right ? that call to each other ?
[17:56] <holstein> http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/show/techsnap/
[17:56] <bobweaver> are mods in apache linkke in ubutnu ? like they are drivers ?
[17:57] <bobweaver> That is awsome !!! thanks
[17:57] <bobweaver> the link ^^
[17:57] <holstein> havent used openvas
[17:59] <bobweaver> it works umm last time I use openvas and nessus  nessus find 7 openvaas 5
[18:00] <bobweaver> so the host name that I name my server. where can I find info on whgat that effects ?
[18:00] <bobweaver> like you where talking about the how to make local name insead of local ip
[18:02] <holstein> you chose hostname at install... you open a terminal and it will say.. you@whatever
[22:08] <goddard> hey
[22:13] <benonsoftware> Hi
[22:13] <MTL3> Hello