[20:46] Good evening all :) I wonder if you could help me with a page on the Ubuntu wiki please - it's a documentation guide to packaging, which I'm supposed to be learning from; but part of the page, probably a paragraph and a half, is in another language and I don't know whether it's been vandalised or what, but I may be missing something which I don't rightly understand. [20:47] This is the page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/BuildingTheSourcePackage?highlight=%28CategoryPackagingGuideHowto%29 [20:48] About a third to two thirds of the way down, it switches to something which I suspect could be Spanish or Italian, neither of which I understand :) [20:54] BarkingFish; it seems it's bilingual [20:54] I don't know why.. [20:55] yeah, but it's not bilingual. If it was, the whole page would be translated into both - if you look, it goes english to about 1/3 of the way down, switches to whatever language it is, and then goes back to english abruptly toward the bottom [20:56] It's three times the same thing it seems? [20:56] possibly translated text put in the wrong place, surely translations would be done via the link at the top of the page, right? [20:56] At quick glance the two English sections are the same [20:56] Yeah, and according to google translate, there's spanish and a blob of Italian in there too :) [20:57] the italian is like a half paragraph, quite a few lines of spanish and the rest in english. I suspect it is translated stuff in the wrong place. [20:58] Ghehe, don't trust google translate to give a proper estimate on which language is used [20:59] Everything from debuild -S is duplicate, the rest is seems Spanish to me [21:00] My room mate Marco says this is definitely italian :) [21:00] "Forse il modo più comune di costruire il pacchetto binario localmente è farlo attraverso pbuilder dopo aver compilato il sorgente del pacchetto. Spostiamoci dentro la cartella principale in cui abbiamo estratto il codice (ad esempio ~/hello/hello-2.6) dove abbiamo costruito il codice del pacchetto usando debuild con l'opzione speciale: " [21:00] I dun really care ^_^ [21:00] so we have got three in there, almost certainly :) [21:01] It begins with English, then it's Spanish, then it's an unfinished Italtian [21:01] I just looked at the raw text [21:02] yeah, so shouldn't they be on different pages? [21:03] "If you want to translate this page, please add a comment to your edit saying Translation update, so it's easier to see what changed. Check out PackagingGuide/Translation for more information on the translation effort." [21:04] It should probably be on a separate page...I'm just looking at the references page [21:10] Alright, I just looked at a page which supposedly has finished Italian and Spanish translations. Looks similar to the page you sent BarkingFish [21:11] ah, ok [21:12] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Translation <= just look at this page [21:13] But maybe I've missed something in the explanation [21:19] I must have missed something somewhere [21:25] BarkingFish; I think that is a "source" file you've seen. It's the collection place for all translations. Only the right section is used in the corresponding WikiPage [21:27] I'm not sure how I got that then. I searched for the packaging guide, found the page and went to use it. [21:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Howtos/ChangingTheOrigTarball > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic#ChangingOrigTarball > <> [21:30] Then there might be something wrong with the page you got on, in other words the linking. How did you come on that page? [21:32] I went to the search function off the main page, typed in Packaging, went through the pages which were returned to find the guide I needed, and clicked on it [21:32] BarkingFish: you should probably try the new Packaging Guide at http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tools/packaging/ [21:33] ok, another question arises from that then - why isn't that linked from the Wiki pages? [21:33] BarkingFish: it actually is, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide [21:34] http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ ?? [21:38] jbicha: then it should be linked from all the pages IN the packaging guide, so if I go to a specific one I need (or anyone else needs for that matter) the correct link for them to go to is displayed there. [21:38] I wouldn't know about a link on a page if I hadn't visited it :) [21:42] BarkingFish: of course, anyone could edit wiki.ubuntu.com and make it better ;) [21:43] This is why I posted here - I didn't know whether it was something that needed to be done by an administrator, whether I had permission to edit the wiki, or what. I don't want to be messing with stuff I don't understand :) [21:46] BarkingFish: a Launchpad/Ubuntu One account is all you need to change most things on the wiki, and we appreciate all the help! [21:46] well I have a launchpad account, and it doesn't work on the Ubuntu Wiki. I've tried it before. [21:50] could you try again? [21:58] sure [21:58] sorry, was busy elsewhere :) [22:01] Right - bear in mind I've emptied my cache today, less than an hour ago, and opened a new browser, AND not logged in to the wiki, this is what I get when I try: [22:01] OpenID error: Nonce already used or out of range. [22:02] you really need to change the word you use there too :) [22:02] Living in the UK, I can tell you that the word "Nonce" here has an alternative meaning, and I don't honestly know what it means on that error [22:12] Agreed [22:31] is that something the #launchpad guys would be able to help with?