[00:20] <snap-l> yo yo yo
[00:31] <waldo323> heya
[11:53] <snap-l> G'morning
[11:54] <rick_h__> party
[11:55] <snap-l> That it is. :)
[11:56] <snap-l> Apparently we have this "winter storm watch" in effect.
[11:56] <snap-l> that does not please me.
[11:57] <rick_h__> ruh roh
[11:57] <snap-l> Thursday: "Cloudy with showers likely. Snow showers likely in the afternoon. Highs 39 to 43. North winds 5 to 15 mph...becoming southeast in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 70 percent"
[11:58] <snap-l> I hope it zags, but I'm not too hopeful
[11:58] <snap-l> It's all the damn snowboarders asking for snow
[12:00] <rick_h__> seems a bit warm for snow
[12:02] <snap-l> Yeah
[12:37] <Wolfger> it won't be warm thursday
[12:38] <Wolfger> morning
[12:38] <Wolfger> oh, forecast changed... it will be warm thursday :-p
[12:39] <rick_h__> lol
[12:40] <Wolfger> 90% chance of rain Thursday turning to 90% chance of snow Thursday night and Friday
[12:40] <rick_h__> crap, no snow
[12:41] <Wolfger> actually, 90% chance of rain starts tonight :-p
[12:41] <Wolfger> Kiss our unseasonably nice weather goodbye
[12:43] <Wolfger> hey Arduinees, check out the DotD
[13:54] <brousch> wow, that was weird. my clock suddenly switched to UTC
[13:55] <Wolfger> Excellent. My plan is starting to work already.
[14:05] <brousch> u r 1337
[14:28] <snap-l> Yay new keyboard at work.
[14:28] <Wolfger> \o/
[14:28] <snap-l> Finally I can be rid of the J shaped enter key that plagues my entire existence.
[14:29] <rick_h__> woot!
[14:29] <Wolfger> Wow. That's one powerful key.
[14:29] <snap-l> Wolfger: You have no idea
[14:29] <snap-l> picture, if you will, the oft-used |\ key
[14:30] <snap-l> now, look at your keyboard and note the position of said key
[14:30] <snap-l> is it right above the Enter yet?
[14:30] <snap-l> key?
[14:30] <Wolfger> But of course
[14:30] <snap-l> OK
[14:30] <snap-l> Now, picture if you will an enter key that is essentially Enter and the \| key combined
[14:31] <Wolfger> Well then where would I put my |\ key?
[14:31] <snap-l> and take the luxurious space that backspace takes up on your keyboard, and put the \| key there
[14:31] <Wolfger> insane
[14:31] <snap-l> so you have half-BS, hald \|
[14:31] <snap-l> Yes
[14:31] <snap-l> Now imagine trying to type ps -ef | grep
[14:32] <snap-l> and realize that any pipe operation will likely hit enter before it hits pipe.
[14:32] <snap-l> and now you know.
[14:32] <Wolfger> and knowing is half the battle!
[14:33]  * Wolfger suddenly recalls that snap-l is now part of COBRA
[14:35] <snap-l> heh
[14:35] <snap-l> I have a while before I have to take COBRA
[14:35] <snap-l> hopefully my benes will take effect before I have to use it
[14:35] <snap-l> hate hate hate paying COBRA>
[14:36] <n0p> morning all, anyone heading to codemash?
[14:37] <snap-l> n0p: I blinked when the tickets went on sale
[14:37] <snap-l> so, no
[14:37] <n0p> ah, yeah
[14:37] <n0p> actually, it went quick, but not as quick as they claim
[14:38] <n0p> we got our tickets like 2 hours after they went on sale. i think eventbright over reserved tickets as people clieked through
[14:39] <n0p> snap-l: did you go last year?
[14:39] <n0p> year(s)
[14:40] <brousch> i think rick_h__ went last year
[14:40] <snap-l> No, I've never been. rick_h__ went last year.
[14:41] <brousch> Wolfger: i blogged the Dropbox public link in Dolphin thing http://clusterbleep.net/blog/2012/01/11/getting-a-dropbox-public-link-in-kde-using-dolphin/
[14:41] <n0p> yeah, remember him mentioning it, i've never been, sounds happening
[14:41] <n0p> lots of .net though :-/
[14:42] <brousch> i think jrwren has also gone
[14:42] <n0p> 3 of the 5 javascript ones are scheduled for the same timeslot
[14:43] <n0p> i'll watch for him
[14:43] <snap-l> That doesn't surprise me. ;)
[14:44] <brousch> they'll pop in here now that we've paged them ;)
[14:45] <rick_h__> yea, I spoke last year
[14:45] <rick_h__> it's good stuff
[14:45] <rick_h__> yea, they're trying to be cross language, lots of ruby and such as well
[14:45] <rick_h__> a few of us doing Python stuff
[14:45] <rick_h__> lots of mobile these days
[14:46] <n0p> yea, i think i saw only 1 python (mark's)
[14:48] <brousch> holy crap that's a lot of talks
[14:49] <rick_h__> I think there's another but not sure
[14:49] <rick_h__> but yea, when I spoke I was part of the "token" python force
[14:49] <rick_h__> so they can put it on the website
[14:49] <brousch> http://codemash.org/Sessions#A+Few+of+My+Favorite+(Python)+Things
[14:50] <brousch> and http://codemash.org/Sessions#Automated+Python+Test+Frameworks+for+Hardware+Validation+and+Verification
[14:50] <n0p> ah, two!
[14:50] <brousch> and Mark Ramm's
[14:50] <rick_h__> taking over the world!
[14:50] <brousch> so 3 python talks
[14:50] <n0p> er, yeah, 3
[14:50] <snap-l> It's almost a quorum.
[14:51] <rick_h__> mike is cool
[14:51] <n0p> hope security is tight
[14:51] <rick_h__> sweet, both of those are people I know from PyOhio
[14:51] <n0p> rick_h__: are you still on the other side of the globe?
[14:52] <brousch> also one with ironpython http://codemash.org/Sessions#Dynamic+.NET+Demystified
[14:53] <brousch> and this one has a lot of python http://codemash.org/Sessions#Polyglot+Programming%3a+The+Power+of+Hybridization
[14:53] <brousch> so there might be 5 python talks!
[14:53] <Wolfger> Does IronPython really count? ;-)
[14:54] <n0p> wow, and they seem to have their own timeslots
[14:54] <Wolfger> brousch: I see what you did there (with the blog post)
[14:55] <brousch> oh man, that last talk is bruce eckle
[14:55] <Wolfger> It's all "hey, look at this cool thing you can do! (oh, and by the way use me as a referral to sign up for dropbox plz)"
[14:55] <brousch> eckel
[14:56] <brousch> Wolfger: make it so!
[15:06] <snap-l> I have never seen Bruce Eckel talk
[15:06] <snap-l> I quite liked Thinking in Java, though
[15:06] <rick_h__> n0p: yea, in hungary still
[15:06] <snap-l> there was a Hands on Java CD that I liked.
[15:06] <rick_h__> working like mad to fix crap
[15:08] <brousch> rick_h__: are you saying that launchpad is crap?
[15:08] <rick_h__> brousch: I never said that :)
[15:08] <snap-l> brousch: Did you stop beating your wife? :)
[15:08] <jjesse> he just said everything written by someone besides him in launchpad is crapy
[15:21] <Wolfger> strictly speaking, he only acknowledged that there is some crap in launchpad... we are left to guess the percentage content
[17:13] <snap-l> http://askubuntu.com/questions/94548/why-is-there-no-recycle-bin
[18:08] <Wolfger> Yeah....
[18:12] <Wolfger> Now this, I would never have expected to see: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/photo-contest/2011/entries/79152/view/
[18:14] <snap-l> Wolfger: Why not? :)
[18:26] <Wolfger> magnifying glasses are only used to set fires by young children who aren't allowed to set them any other way.
[18:34] <Wolfger> Who am I kidding? I'm just jealous Michigan is too far North and too overcast for that to be an option. :-)
[18:48] <snap-l> ;)
[18:55] <brousch> i'm getting worse at multitasking in my old age. i just helped 3 different people in 3 different programs and now i've totally forgotten what i was doing before that
[18:55] <snap-l> GTD. ;)
[18:56] <n0p> hmm, sounds like an old job.. when that happened, i'd just look busy for a minute or two until i got interrupted again
[18:56] <snap-l> Then you'll spend more time thinking about what you should be doing. ;)
[18:56] <brousch> n0p: that is one of my usual tactics
[18:57] <n0p> anyone else experience any type of Internet outage about an hour ago?
[18:57] <snap-l> n0p: not to my knowledge.
[18:57] <n0p> we got an alert, but our cacti graphs all look fine
[18:58] <n0p> then i saw this https://longrep.ly/r/58dbd508
[18:58] <snap-l> Are your monitors in Cacti as well?
[18:59] <n0p> heh, no, newrelic is where our alert came from
[18:59] <snap-l> I'd point the finger there, then. :)
[18:59] <n0p> yeah, thats what i was thinking too, no support calls came in either
[18:59] <n0p> but saw the mailchimp thing and though, hmm
[18:59] <Wolfger> did the interwebs dies momentarily while they installed the not-yet-officially-approved SOPA softwares?
[18:59] <snap-l> Might have been in the data center.
[19:00] <snap-l> We used to use Watchmouse for our monitoring. Was handy because they used data centers all over the world
[19:00] <Wolfger> government kill switch test run
[19:00] <snap-l> though it sucked when you'd be pinged for some error that was happening in shitty-internetville.
[19:01] <Wolfger> PS, sky is falling.
[19:01] <Wolfger> :-D
[19:04] <Wolfger> Wow. Kroger.com is a truly awful website.
[19:04] <Wolfger> Lots of links pointing to a FAQ that doesn't exist
[19:04] <Wolfger> horrible search results
[19:05] <Wolfger> guess I will go to the store to ask my question
[19:06] <brousch> oh man, that reminds me. at one of the grwebdev meetings someone pulled up the meijer.com web site as an example of a poor user interface. after a minute or two of saying how bad it is one of the meijer.com devs in the room spoke up
[19:06] <Wolfger> LOL
[19:06] <Wolfger> anybody in here a Kroger web dev?
[19:06] <brousch> i haven't seen her since
[19:06] <n0p> brousch: oh, were you at the github drinkup?
[19:06] <brousch> yes
[19:06] <n0p> doh!, should have looked you up, me too
[19:07] <brousch> i didn't realize you are west mi
[19:07] <n0p> not, it was a last minute thing
[19:07] <brousch> ah, well shoot
[19:07] <brousch> who'd you talk to?
[19:08] <n0p> dunno, once we got there, we ate and talked to a few a2 guys, then we decided we should talk to new people and did, but then had to leave
[19:09] <n0p> too loud to actually hear names
[19:09] <n0p> fun place though
[19:09] <brousch> yeah, it was pretty loud
[19:09] <brousch> i think i'm learning to lip read by ging to all these loud bars after meetings
[19:29] <snap-l> brousch: Keep it up and you'll need to learn sign language. ;)
[19:31] <Wolfger> Why do people talk about "sign language". Most signs in the US are in English. ;)
[19:32] <Wolfger> Man, it must be a slow day if I'm stretching that far for a joke.
[19:35] <Wolfger> Wow. http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/11/world/asia/china-microsoft-factory/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
[19:49] <brousch> Wolfger: that was a poor joke
[19:55] <snap-l> Wolfger: That's unreal
[20:46] <snap-l> df
[20:47] <snap-l> feh
[22:03] <brousch> diving back into django to help out some folks
[22:05] <Blazeix> i notice you wait until rick_h__ is overseas before you mention that.
[22:05] <Blazeix> out of punching range
[22:13] <rick_h__> what's up?
[22:14] <rick_h__> drinking with the LP guys atm so wheee
[22:14] <rick_h__> wtf! django?
[22:36] <_stink_> rick_h__ has an "ssh rick@mitechie.com punch_brousch -m 'django???'" alias ready to go
[22:41] <rick_h__> lol, awesome
[22:42] <_stink_> rick_h__: which country are you in again?
[22:42] <rick_h__> hungary
[22:42] <rick_h__> in budapest
[22:44] <_stink_> dang