[00:20] yo yo yo [00:31] heya [11:53] G'morning [11:54] party [11:55] That it is. :) [11:56] Apparently we have this "winter storm watch" in effect. [11:56] that does not please me. [11:57] ruh roh [11:57] Thursday: "Cloudy with showers likely. Snow showers likely in the afternoon. Highs 39 to 43. North winds 5 to 15 mph...becoming southeast in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 70 percent" [11:58] I hope it zags, but I'm not too hopeful [11:58] It's all the damn snowboarders asking for snow [12:00] seems a bit warm for snow [12:02] Yeah [12:37] it won't be warm thursday [12:38] morning [12:38] oh, forecast changed... it will be warm thursday :-p [12:39] lol [12:40] 90% chance of rain Thursday turning to 90% chance of snow Thursday night and Friday [12:40] crap, no snow [12:41] actually, 90% chance of rain starts tonight :-p [12:41] Kiss our unseasonably nice weather goodbye [12:43] hey Arduinees, check out the DotD [13:54] wow, that was weird. my clock suddenly switched to UTC [13:55] Excellent. My plan is starting to work already. [14:05] u r 1337 [14:28] Yay new keyboard at work. [14:28] \o/ [14:28] Finally I can be rid of the J shaped enter key that plagues my entire existence. [14:29] woot! [14:29] Wow. That's one powerful key. [14:29] Wolfger: You have no idea [14:29] picture, if you will, the oft-used |\ key [14:30] now, look at your keyboard and note the position of said key [14:30] is it right above the Enter yet? [14:30] key? [14:30] But of course [14:30] OK [14:30] Now, picture if you will an enter key that is essentially Enter and the \| key combined [14:31] Well then where would I put my |\ key? [14:31] and take the luxurious space that backspace takes up on your keyboard, and put the \| key there [14:31] insane [14:31] so you have half-BS, hald \| [14:31] Yes [14:31] Now imagine trying to type ps -ef | grep [14:32] and realize that any pipe operation will likely hit enter before it hits pipe. [14:32] and now you know. [14:32] and knowing is half the battle! [14:33] * Wolfger suddenly recalls that snap-l is now part of COBRA [14:35] heh [14:35] I have a while before I have to take COBRA [14:35] hopefully my benes will take effect before I have to use it [14:35] hate hate hate paying COBRA> [14:36] morning all, anyone heading to codemash? [14:37] n0p: I blinked when the tickets went on sale [14:37] so, no [14:37] ah, yeah [14:37] actually, it went quick, but not as quick as they claim [14:38] we got our tickets like 2 hours after they went on sale. i think eventbright over reserved tickets as people clieked through [14:39] snap-l: did you go last year? [14:39] year(s) [14:40] i think rick_h__ went last year [14:40] No, I've never been. rick_h__ went last year. [14:41] Wolfger: i blogged the Dropbox public link in Dolphin thing http://clusterbleep.net/blog/2012/01/11/getting-a-dropbox-public-link-in-kde-using-dolphin/ [14:41] yeah, remember him mentioning it, i've never been, sounds happening [14:41] lots of .net though :-/ [14:42] i think jrwren has also gone [14:42] 3 of the 5 javascript ones are scheduled for the same timeslot [14:43] i'll watch for him [14:43] That doesn't surprise me. ;) [14:44] they'll pop in here now that we've paged them ;) [14:45] yea, I spoke last year [14:45] it's good stuff [14:45] yea, they're trying to be cross language, lots of ruby and such as well [14:45] a few of us doing Python stuff [14:45] lots of mobile these days [14:46] yea, i think i saw only 1 python (mark's) [14:48] holy crap that's a lot of talks [14:49] I think there's another but not sure [14:49] but yea, when I spoke I was part of the "token" python force [14:49] so they can put it on the website [14:49] http://codemash.org/Sessions#A+Few+of+My+Favorite+(Python)+Things [14:50] and http://codemash.org/Sessions#Automated+Python+Test+Frameworks+for+Hardware+Validation+and+Verification [14:50] ah, two! [14:50] and Mark Ramm's [14:50] taking over the world! [14:50] so 3 python talks [14:50] er, yeah, 3 [14:50] It's almost a quorum. [14:51] mike is cool [14:51] hope security is tight [14:51] sweet, both of those are people I know from PyOhio [14:51] rick_h__: are you still on the other side of the globe? [14:52] also one with ironpython http://codemash.org/Sessions#Dynamic+.NET+Demystified [14:53] and this one has a lot of python http://codemash.org/Sessions#Polyglot+Programming%3a+The+Power+of+Hybridization [14:53] so there might be 5 python talks! [14:53] Does IronPython really count? ;-) [14:54] wow, and they seem to have their own timeslots [14:54] brousch: I see what you did there (with the blog post) [14:55] oh man, that last talk is bruce eckle [14:55] It's all "hey, look at this cool thing you can do! (oh, and by the way use me as a referral to sign up for dropbox plz)" [14:55] eckel [14:56] Wolfger: make it so! [15:06] I have never seen Bruce Eckel talk [15:06] I quite liked Thinking in Java, though [15:06] n0p: yea, in hungary still [15:06] there was a Hands on Java CD that I liked. [15:06] working like mad to fix crap [15:08] rick_h__: are you saying that launchpad is crap? [15:08] brousch: I never said that :) [15:08] brousch: Did you stop beating your wife? :) [15:08] he just said everything written by someone besides him in launchpad is crapy [15:21] strictly speaking, he only acknowledged that there is some crap in launchpad... we are left to guess the percentage content [17:13] http://askubuntu.com/questions/94548/why-is-there-no-recycle-bin [18:08] Yeah.... [18:12] Now this, I would never have expected to see: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/photo-contest/2011/entries/79152/view/ [18:14] Wolfger: Why not? :) [18:26] magnifying glasses are only used to set fires by young children who aren't allowed to set them any other way. [18:34] Who am I kidding? I'm just jealous Michigan is too far North and too overcast for that to be an option. :-) [18:48] ;) [18:55] i'm getting worse at multitasking in my old age. i just helped 3 different people in 3 different programs and now i've totally forgotten what i was doing before that [18:55] GTD. ;) [18:56] hmm, sounds like an old job.. when that happened, i'd just look busy for a minute or two until i got interrupted again [18:56] Then you'll spend more time thinking about what you should be doing. ;) [18:56] n0p: that is one of my usual tactics [18:57] anyone else experience any type of Internet outage about an hour ago? [18:57] n0p: not to my knowledge. [18:57] we got an alert, but our cacti graphs all look fine [18:58] then i saw this https://longrep.ly/r/58dbd508 [18:58] Are your monitors in Cacti as well? [18:59] heh, no, newrelic is where our alert came from [18:59] I'd point the finger there, then. :) [18:59] yeah, thats what i was thinking too, no support calls came in either [18:59] but saw the mailchimp thing and though, hmm [18:59] did the interwebs dies momentarily while they installed the not-yet-officially-approved SOPA softwares? [18:59] Might have been in the data center. [19:00] We used to use Watchmouse for our monitoring. Was handy because they used data centers all over the world [19:00] government kill switch test run [19:00] though it sucked when you'd be pinged for some error that was happening in shitty-internetville. [19:01] PS, sky is falling. [19:01] :-D [19:04] Wow. Kroger.com is a truly awful website. [19:04] Lots of links pointing to a FAQ that doesn't exist [19:04] horrible search results [19:05] guess I will go to the store to ask my question [19:06] oh man, that reminds me. at one of the grwebdev meetings someone pulled up the meijer.com web site as an example of a poor user interface. after a minute or two of saying how bad it is one of the meijer.com devs in the room spoke up [19:06] LOL [19:06] anybody in here a Kroger web dev? [19:06] i haven't seen her since [19:06] brousch: oh, were you at the github drinkup? [19:06] yes [19:06] doh!, should have looked you up, me too [19:07] i didn't realize you are west mi [19:07] not, it was a last minute thing [19:07] ah, well shoot [19:07] who'd you talk to? [19:08] dunno, once we got there, we ate and talked to a few a2 guys, then we decided we should talk to new people and did, but then had to leave [19:09] too loud to actually hear names [19:09] fun place though [19:09] yeah, it was pretty loud [19:09] i think i'm learning to lip read by ging to all these loud bars after meetings [19:29] brousch: Keep it up and you'll need to learn sign language. ;) [19:31] Why do people talk about "sign language". Most signs in the US are in English. ;) [19:32] Man, it must be a slow day if I'm stretching that far for a joke. [19:35] Wow. http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/11/world/asia/china-microsoft-factory/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 [19:49] Wolfger: that was a poor joke [19:55] Wolfger: That's unreal [20:46] df [20:47] feh [22:03] diving back into django to help out some folks [22:05] i notice you wait until rick_h__ is overseas before you mention that. [22:05] out of punching range [22:13] what's up? [22:14] drinking with the LP guys atm so wheee [22:14] wtf! django? [22:36] <_stink_> rick_h__ has an "ssh rick@mitechie.com punch_brousch -m 'django???'" alias ready to go [22:41] lol, awesome [22:42] <_stink_> rick_h__: which country are you in again? [22:42] hungary [22:42] in budapest [22:44] <_stink_> dang